Fun fact: As a musician, getting featured in First Take in JP is a big deal. It is literally for pros performing in a high level. For a Vtuber being recognized as a performing artist is amazing. Also, her First Take was watched live by a whopping 500k+ viewers. I was one of those and let me tell you, it really made me tear up a bit knowing the meaning of her song and all of her hard work culminating to that moment.
"What I wanted to be was never a Cinderella who waits forever, but the prince who goes and gets things done." My favorite line from the song. Suisei through and through.
The fact asmon went from playing holocure, playing as suisei, people explaining that she is the "tetris girl" and then actually look up how she made it as a vtuber (basically learning about her lore) is legit awesome to see. I still remember seeing asmon react to clips sent by viewers and him just going "ugh more weeb shit". What a transformation
@@lucylu3342 and to think this whole thing is caused by wow itself lol. they made a wow expansion so bad that asmon just straight up stopped playing and jumped on final fantasy 14, where this whole thing started 😂
3:33 For the "why?" they wanted her to restart with a new character and new name: By doing so, the character and name would belong to the company, not the vtuber. It gives way more control to the company. Suisei is an exception in the japanese vtuber world, in that she owns her character and name, it is not the property of Hololive, unlike all the other Hololive vtubers. But she had to fight very hard to keep that character and name...
Hilariously when the entire Cover branch youtube channel tree was threatened with mass channel deletion due to copyright strikes, they had to take a few weeks break to figure it out and work to make the strikes disappear. The only one unaffected was of course Suisei, who made the channel herself. Most likely Cover has a different contract with her, but if she were to ever break out of Hololive, which I doubt cuz she's grateful to them, then she'd be able to keep her character probably. The rest of the talents cannot.
I was under the impression that Sora also owns the rights to her character, having been the first talent before the company really decided to invest in vtubers, but I can't find anything affirming that in the few minutes I'm willing to dig into it.
She is not as OG as Kizuna Ai or the Four queens, but Suisei’s story is literally a cinderella story for vtubers. Really shows: you have to work hard for your dream no matter what. Even with a crazy amount of talent. The rest is history. Luck plays a role in success, but effort separates the great from the best.
i would say the entirity of gen 0. not to mention other Hololive members has stories to tell. for example A duck got her house burned down and took as many job as they can to help their family, she thought this vtuber thing is just a small gig worth every penny. Then there's this sheep who is coming from a single parent family, her father throws her away while her mother work very hard to keep the family afloat. There's also this baby who once failed so hard that her original project is scrapped, but she's given second chance (like Suisei) to join Hololive main branch.
Man, what a wholesome video. She went from quitting to becoming a superstar on her own while being used and rejected all the way through her journey. Glad she found the success she deserves, that took a lot of resilience and passion.
@@BasagazelI mean if you want best example then miko easily clears that. Going from the vtuber with the least subscribers to one of the most beloved and certainly an icon within hololive
I think it’s just a testament that you shouldn’t give up, even when multiple people tell you “no.” Not that it was anywhere close to the level of rejection Suisei went through, I ran into a similar situation in my career. When I was getting started, I had a lot of potential employers tell me “no,” even though I had a lot of unique skills that set me apart from others in my career field at the time. Mostly because at the time, they didn’t see how these skills would translate. Fast forward eight years later, someone finally decided to take a chance on me and I ended up winning one of the highest honors in my region twice in three years. Much like Suisei, I was “ “ close to giving up on this career because I was getting sick of the rejection, but I’m glad that I kept with it, even though it caused me to live through two very difficult years that brought on crippling depression. Something I had going for me though during those tough years was that I had a current boss and a former boss who “believed” in me. They knew I had the capabilities to be one of the best in my profession, I just needed to learn how to properly apply my skills and hone my work ethic to make it more efficient. Seeing Suisei’s journey makes me really happy that others have gone through similar trials and tribulations and they turned out to be all the more successful because of that. The other day, I heard a piece of advice that I think everyone could adopt and it would make their lives better. This is what that advice is… There is no such thing as failure. When you perceive something to be a failure, you are taking a look at that failure through a microscopic lens without seeing the bigger picture. “Failures” provide a learning experience to better yourself and the people around you. As long as you see the bigger picture and continue to learn from your mistakes, you’ll never stop improving until you become the best at what you do.
@@josuevillca3437I think sora takes it even further, she and A-chan kickstarted the idea of Hololive as a whole with a whopping… what was it, 6 viewers not including staff? Yagoo agreed to support Sora’a dream and now she’s a famous figure in Japan. she doesn’t do as much TH-cam streaming, but is far more well-known in real life by ordinary people than any other holomem
The First Take is probably as high as a Japanese musician could go. It's like the Tiny Desk concerts of Japan, but it was a huge deal since she's obviously not going in as a "real person," and you're basically thrusting this anime girl into a very mainstream community. She absolutely kills the performance and within 24 hours it had millions of views, something only the most popular of artists could accomplish on their channel
She still has her life goal, solo live at the Budokan. Which at this point I think the only barriers are scheduling and money. I have zero doubts she can sell the place out, since the capacity is only 14.5k.
@@r3dr4te963Yeah, the foremost of the INNK management also admitted as such; they had been trying to focus on AZKi to Suisei's expense, but they also found themselves incompetent in managing even just one talent. It was only months since AZKi joined Hololive proper and she also blew up, primarily due to her Geoguessr streams. Also worth noting is the fact that INNK Music was a joint project between Activ8 (parent company of upd8 and also the company of Kizuna AI) and Cover (parent company of Hololive), the former being the senior partner. And as we know, upd8 had been shite in managing their talents, and some of them had left the company for either Nijisanji or Hololive.
@@r3dr4te963 IIRC, INNK had weird restrictions because it was operated by both Cover and upd8, so Cover management doesn't have complete control over Suisei and AZKi. I think it was only until upd8 was gone that things changed, though I couldn't confirm that one.
@@spongebobfan78this is the truth but upd8 damaged INNK Music so much that after they walked out from the project that INNK Music still can't support other Vtubers than AZKi.
@@spongebobfan78 As much as I love the upd8's talents, that company is really something... Good thing, it got broken although kinda sad for the talents...
Im glad asmon is super open minded about unusual content such as vtubers, though its becoming more mainstream. I can see how weird it is for people to watch an anime character instead of a real person, which would definitely turn off alot of people. But he embraces that things are just different, instead of being quick to judge someone for what they are.
@@gedrgesfsdfwe4046It’s more common now, but it’s still very niche content. Most streamers don’t really interact with Vtubers at all. And Asmon has pretty much always been on board with vtubing, even near the very start of it getting mainstream attention like with projektMelody.
It still baffles me, how wow viewerbase, which is most of his viewers, have always been so close minded to everything that's nerdy, or are so quick to jump on making fun of other people, considering wow's neckbeard and basement dwellers reputation. I guess it's true that a wow player is just a wow player, and not a real nerd.
@@gedrgesfsdfwe4046 I don't even think a majority of people who use a computer have seen a vtuber. Its easy to get caught up in thinking people know about something when youre in communities that do.
I always find it hilarious that she said that part of her selling pitch to get into hololive was "Think about it, its the perfect Cinderella story for vtubers" as one of the reasons she should keep her persona, like big company getting someone Indie that was not that big and catapulting their career
@@L16htW4rr10rnot exactly saved, but Hololive started with A-chan convincing Yagoo to turn his tech company into a streaming company to support the dream of her best friend, Sora. Yagoo agreed, they had a slow start but none of them ever gave up and eventually succeeded more than they could ever dream of
13:48 The dude is actually called Taku Inoue. He is a pretty famous japanese musician, who reached out to suisei because he was impressed by her singing. He is also the one who composed her song "Stellar Stellar" that she's singing here.
This is one aspect of vtuber idol culture that I think is genuinely fascinating: following a 1view andy from day 1 and after 2 years, see them grow to a 5view behemoth. It's like investment but with a person instead of money
It's part of the appeal of the idol journey. People are so fixated on the obsessive fans that practically want to murder the talents the moment they step outta line, they forget about the many more that are in it and invested in the growth of watching a budding talent realize their potential, and the genuine joy that comes from watching them succeed.
@@wuy4 she’s a staff member who hosts events and occasionally streams on the official Hololive channel (going over news, watch-a-longs of concerts, etc.). What’s especially special about A-chan is that she’s close friends with Tokino Sora, the very first Hololive member. Story goes Sora wanted to be an idol and A-chan helped convince Sora to give vtubing a shot. So when I say A-chan is the hidden MVP of Hololive I’m wasn’t kidding. Without her and Sora there wouldn’t be a Hololive in the first place.
@@mzou89 Thanks for explaining things. I don't know anything about vtubers much less Hololive. But the Holocure game (awesome game btw) has shown me that their is a "iceberg" of lore in the entire franchise.
I always get teary when i hear the story of suisei. Her determination is an inspiration. Glad that asmon got to know her and hoping she can support her
The thing that she almost made earth blew away was her "The First Take", basically its a recording without retake, just a pure voice into the mic, not to mention she became the first Vtuber that perform in The First Take channel.
2:09 Funnily enough, every VTuber in Hololive has their IRL identity already unearthed and documented EXCEPT Suisei as her social media presence prior to becoming a VTuber almost non-existent and the only ones they could find are voices she had done in very small music covers.
@@sambuddy4465Yes, she got doxxed. Fortunately there was no harm done to her, but considering they combed thru who joined Okayu's memberships when Subaru said "I joined your members" to find Subaru... Frankly to me anyone that would reference Subaru's irl looks is creepy. It's not like DemonDice or Keekihime, it was her private channel bruh.
Brooo... I never knew how hard it was for her. I only started knowing Hololive since 2020 and oh boy I thought she had the same start as Azki. I kinda respect her more now since I know of her efforts based on the tournaments that she won including Mario Kart, Apex Legends, Tetris and more that I probably missed out on (some friendly tournaments between Japanese streamers/vtubers). She is indeed a diamond in the rough, I'm happy A-chan helped her and guided her back to the path of light, gave her hopes and dreams just like when she started the journey. Good video, and good reaction as well, kinda choked myself with water when Asmon showed the picture of a random fat person xD
Yeah, she's got one of the most incredible stories out of all the Hololive members. Especially since she's the only one who kept the same persona from before joining. And it's wild seeing Asmon reacting to this shit.
The entirity of gen 0 actually struggled hard... (*edit* from sora having 13 viewers) on her first stream, miko being transfered from one branch of cover corp to another even roboco has her fair share of those... and to think that Gen 0 is still complete. They're a bunch of stong girls...
@@kaimojepasltguess what? It is a job and in fact one that gets her probably tenfold anything entry level could. She gets to be a singer and at the same time not deal with all the awful shenanigans that women in Japanese entertainment get from all the creeps knowing how you look.
Well, thats what i call a TRUE Idol. Not just something that was created to be popular, but someone actually becoming something people can look up to by hard work.
What are u smoking on, most Idol do work hard, do u thing they just magucal can dance or sing? N for most vtuber they not doing easy way, most all vtuber have almost same story like suisei, for Suise, because her hard work she has connection to A-chan, that 1 her lucky for her hard work,,
This past year I see Zack's been grinding content, not only to judge them, but genuinely curious and learn about them, understand them, and then react to it. Many other big names would often react by laughing at what they do not understand and refuse to spend even a second to learn about others' cultures, like this one, idol culture, but this man is not only reacting but trying to understand. If it's Zack from 3-4 years ago, the thought of him looking at "somewhat-anime-character" would be as real as seeing a unicorn.
Idol culture is pretty trash, these situations like the one with weather report girl are insane. Lately we also got Oshi no Ko on this subject. But v-tubers are cool tho
I think part of that comes from him playing FF14, which made him be more open to stuff like cat girls, which was his gateway to more anime stuff, but in the end the reason he got into FF14 in the first place is blizzard being shit and ruining wow, so in the end new anime accepting asmon is all thanks to blizzard
I remember joining the Suisei train before she got to 100k subs and it was amazing (inspiring) to see her consistently smash through all the goals she set for herself. Her biggest dream used to be to do a solo live with her original music and she soared past that goal and is still rising. Also, not mentioned in the video is that part where she's singing in a white room is from a youtuber called "The First Take" with over 8 million subs where they often invite popular Japanese artists to perform and it's all in one take. She's been featured on their channel, not once but twice and her combined viewership from those two videos is almost 20 million views.
"She's been featured on their channel, not once but twice" That's kinda the usual deal, though. Pretty much every singer they invite to the channel does 2 songs. (unless you're a huge superstar in japan like LiSa who did multiple sessions and is at least at 5-6 songs for First Take)
Suisei is IN my opinion, the best singer in all of Hololive and probably THE if not, one of, the most hard working and persevering vtubers. She is just, amazing.
YEEES, this is one of my favorite VTuber, an amazing singer and entertainer. It is so good that Asumon-papa is getting more and more cultured every day; He's getting deeper into the rabbit hole and I'm all in for that.
The crossover is insane From holocure to watching the goat suisei in all her glory, asmon ought to give stellar stellar a listen, certified banger of a song
For some extra context, at 13:46 the "Random dude with a guitar" is Taku Inoue, an artist and music producer who collaborated with Suisei on a couple of tracks, one under his name "Sanji Juunihun" and one under Suisei's "Stellar, Stellar," which was the opening track to her debut album mentioned in the video "Still Still Stellar." They later created a music project together under the name Midnight Grand Orchestra and have also performed together live under that name. Suisei with her 3D model and Inoue as himself, with instruments and in front of green screen. Not mentioned in the video but Suisei did a 3D convert livestream on her YT channel soon after the EN branch was created "STARt IN THE SCREEEN!". After watching that, I went from someone who was casually dipping in and out of the Hololive "rabbit hole," to fully diving in and exploring more of the music side of Hololive.
There are many such stories in the vtuber community, and it means more personally when most of these people got into vtubing to make friends or get over social issues. Talent can only get you so far, you need drive, and likewise, love for it. This applies to everything worth having. Asmon's stuck here now, and bound to claim a vtuber oshi soon.
I'm glad, but surprised he watched it. Though thinking about how he's also a content creator and knows the struggles DIRECTLY it was probably uniquely interesting to watch for him. Oh, and talent manager.
I have immense respect for Suisei. Knowing how much she struggled and seeing how talented and successful she is now is an inspiration for any aspiring V-Tuber.
Never expect Asmon to react to this. Suisei is a living proof that hardwork beats luck and she's the reason I grew to be an "idealistic idiot" I am today. Everytime things goes south I always tell myself "Keep going. Suisei also went through this, I'm on the right track."
I wouldn't get too spooked on good luck vs hard work here Suisei *did* and *does* work extremely hard, but not everyone that works as hard as her makes it.
@@BigRatNate True, but you won't make it without hard work. There's a possibility it won't pay off, sure, but there's no potential for success if you don't put in the effort.
@@BigRatNate Yeah I wasn't talking about hard work equal success. I mean hard work affect your success rate more than luck. You can rely on hard work, but you can't rely on luck.
@@megamage911it’s a bit of both. Having Hololive’s financial and managerial support is what truly saved her career, and as they say a rising tide floats all boats. On the other hand, I’m terms of popularity she was very much middle of the pack when around Myth’s debut and most of her meteoric rise in popularity came the year after when she started dropping her most popular songs, so her current popularity is very much cause of her own work.
For me, Vtubers are great & special because how honest they are in their hard work. They may have virtual masks hiding their real selfs but what is real & down to earth that you can relate to is their sincere feelings you can feel through their huge amount of effort.
she is such a nice hardworking person minato aqua has always been my favorite and suisei befriended her and really brought her out of her shell everyone needs a friend like suisei
TH-cam kept suggesting Gura in my feed for an entire year and I kept just scrolling by. My initial thought was "Is this from some sort of anime?" I finally gave in and watched a clip of Dante and Vergil wishing her a happy birthday. I'm now incredibly happy in this rabbit hole and never plan to come out of it.
Still waiting Asmon to declare an oshi-kai. Tbh Suisei is peak hardwork. She tried everything and wasted no effort for her goals. Even having less $$ every month for her dream. But its all worth it seeing her.
Hololive is filled with wholesome stories of each member struggling to finally making it. Miko trying to get viewers to finally exploding her channel when she played GTAV; Subaru having to deal with her heart condition, to her house burning down, to finally becoming an idol; Sora having just a dozen viewers on her first stream to becoming the face of Hololive, Risu going from a self taught singer to stunning the world with her 3D debut in a performance that would make Celine Dion jealous; for every member there is a story. But Suisei's story practically takes the cake, its the stuff 80s inspiring movies were made of.
Honestly a lot of these v tubers are amazing, not just in terms of personality but in their overall journey. Some ended sadly but a lot of them became a success that you can be proud of even if you're a long time viewer or just recently jump into a hole
trivia: I forgot if she released this as an indie vtuber, but her supposed final song was "Ghost" (the current one on her channel is the re-released version) She made a decision that if it didn't fly, she would stop all activities. Thankfully, it did. And the rest, is history.
im a fan of her for a while now and ngl when i saw her on her own Live 3D concert i had tears in my eyes. she worked hard and it payd off at the end (also A Chan MVP!)
Suisei is one of my favorite Hololive streamers. Her Tetris play is top tier, but I still love her performance in Project Winter. It became a big meme, but she was hilarious.
Its simple. Some people like anime. Some people like streamers. What if somehow we made an anime character be able to stream live? There is the technology. Also I can see the appealing of being able to stream while keeping your private persona off camera. It also kinda helped get more female streamers out there.
The more you know about vtubers the more you realized how hardworking, talented, and entertaining a lot of them are (especially the ones in big agencies). It's more than just a gimmick.
Definitely. I mean, people constantly talk about vtubing like it's some far-off but ultimately 'lazy' way of streaming, yet they don't have the same perspective about any other mode of streaming - which is what vtubing just is. It's streaming. But what's even crazier is that the barrier for entry is so much higher than face-cam streaming (let alone streaming without a face-cam). Sure, all streamers who want to succeed have to have a good sense for entertainment. But with Vtubing, it's not just you get OBS, have a PC with good-enough specs for the games you play & stream, and maybe have a webcam. It's all that + either paying for, or being skilled enough to model/draw and then rig an avatar, incorporate that avatar into an otherwise unorthodox setup (it's still different from just having a webcam), and then know how to place yourself amidst an albeit niche but still very saturated market of other vtubers. I don't see why a lot of people start off as seeing Vtubing as 'lazy' or low effort, but out of all forms of streaming, it most surely isn't low effort haha. And you can't get in it if you aren't skilled enough already, or don't have a large-enough initial fund to invest into something that has an equal chance of failing as any other streamer does. But overall whether or not this or that vtuber is 'hardworking' I think doesn't matter. I'm just really annoyed by the fact so many people place their dismay on vtubers just because they don't reveal their face. I think that's the worst part, because for the first time in a long time, we're being given a platform where everyone is on equal footing and have equal opportunities to entertain, with only one's voice and creativity left to discriminate between. No need to worry about having to look like a supermodel just to have a boost in viewership. It'd be so nice if we could get so many talented people to make the content that they've wanted to make, without having to have the burden of having your face revealed, or anything personal connected to you. If you have a lot of cool ideas to stream, I don't think you should be pressured to having to reveal your face. Vtubing gives people who are in situations like that an extra avenue, which is better for us viewers because that means there'll be a larger diversity in who gets to make content or not. More people to watch, more opinions to be heard, and more fun times to be had.
The random dude in the video is Taku Inoue, the music composer for one of the music groups Suisei is part of, Midnight Orchestra. He wrote the music Suisei performed at the First Take, Stellar Stellar. He is also new to the music industry at large after being one of the key music composers and producers at Bandai Namco, he was one of the predominant music creators for idolM@ster. After he left Bandai Namco no one was really sure if he was going to be a good fit for non-game music. His work with Suisei put those questions to rest very quickly. They're putting out another mini-album in a few weeks. I hope they do another 3D concert for it. Their previous one was really good.
This comeback story is making be cry simply due to her grit and suffering.... She pushed through all of it and slowly but surely achieved her goals getting the approval and love from hundreds of random people qnd many of those close to her. She represents the possibility before those who don't give up and that always means something to someone like myself.
To this day she is the only agency vtuber that owns her own character as an IP. Unlike everyone else, when she retires she gets to keep being the same person. All the rest need to hang up their characters and walk away from them like an old rented suit.
Yes, but as mentioned in the video, she really had to fight to keep the ownership of her character... It's especially impressive since she was offered deals to become an agency vtuber, and rejected all of those deals, just to keep her character and identity. Not many would have said no to those agencies for that reason...
@@Cosmoman78 Did she stream before hololive on her own channel? In her era hololive didnt even exist. it was just an iphone face tracking app. But she and roboco might have been the first cover capture.
@@Cosmoman78She is actually a vtuber under cover corp not indie. Cover corp is also a Hololive parent company.She first debuted under a cover corp before being transferred to Hololive.
Her stubbornness to remain suisei no matter what agency brought her in, i something I admire. She worked her butt off to get where she is, and i wish her even more success. First take is as it sounds, only one take for the video. Stellar stellar killed it
"First take is as it sounds, only one take for the video" Yes, there's even some singers who messed up in their First Take video, and even a group who after making 2 mistakes during the recording, did their own private recording on their own channel that they called a "First Take Revenge" version ^^
Suisei is one of the few Vtubers that "made it" and has build a solid fanbase (even though it's not among the more numerous ones) without appealing to sexual jokes, dramas, cursing, kinky outfits, or overuse of video reaction content (like "your boi" here). She's got a pretty model and is stylish without being overly sexualized too. Her main attraction is singing and she doesn't have a talented voice (as for singing), but she's put enough training into it to make it "good" even if not exceptional. I say this and I'm not against "big booba" Vtubers (love some Mori), nor cringe-content (I like Nyanners too). Just saying that impresses me a lot how a Vtuber can make it without any of those and to know that she insisted on that model and style even after being rejected 2 times, instead of changing for a more "trending way". That is admirable imo.
Important to note for people who have only listened to American music: Japanese music is all about riding the line between Harmony and dissonance. Constantly flirting with going off key but never quite. It's actually much more difficult to pull off than just singing on key clearly. And it's why Anime music all sounds kind of different.
I got to know about Vtubers for the first time through suisei's amazing cover of king and phony, I'm really in awe and admiration for her in anything she's accomplished and is doing and is planning. I cry every time I cross this video and I will click on it again and again. I will never skip this video and really makes me realize how pushing through rock bottom times really makes you shine above anyone else. Just like a star
Oh wow, you are going even deeper into this, cool! 😁 I appreciate that you wanted to learn more about vtubers, some people find the entire concept weird. Vtubers just like any other content creators can provide a lot of entertainment and many of them have very interesting stories to tell. Suisei's is definitely a very heartwarming one, she faced a lot of challenges and finally achieved her dream career I really hope more people will open up to this, the talents are sometimes misjudged and misunderstood in eyes of those unfamiliar with them
Fun fact: The guitarist in the first take video is none other then Taku Inoue: The composer for Tekken 7 and other Bandai Namco games, he made a new band called midnight grand orchestra which he had Suisei be the vocalist. She has also worked with the composer of the kingdom hearts games Yoko Shimomura.
Of course. VTubing in those days is like the California Gold Rush. It is given that a lot of people will end up as failures no matter the talent and work ethic. But, as with every job known to man, there might be a time when opportunity will come knock at your door, and it is up to you if you will open that door, or think it is another failure and move on. Although that opportunity could come after years of hard work with nothing to show for it. (The latter was also a true story in the VTuber sphere and that happened just recently.)
You bet there are, as in any other career. Or you are genuinely entertaining in a big vtuber agency or no support for you, very simple. Even in big agencies there are lots of differences in number for each talent, so you better start working harder, again, just like in every other career.
There is One such is the Go Go Nippon twins. They were essentially axed by their company for being not successful despite the twins efforts. They couldn't do it Luckily the 2 are doing much much better now
@@lionelk.y7233 The company behind GGN had ceased all operation as game developer, while it's true that they stopped GGN vtuber project as well it's not like they are coming from the position of financial flexibility.
This video of her ups and downs always makes me cry a little, because of so much respect I have for her all really hard work and the spirit she puts into her career.
People make the wrestling analogy a lot. But this is a case where it's more specifically applicable. This is due to the different eras of Vtubing and wrestling lining up to give us some fun parallels. For instance, Kizuna Ai as Hogan and Kiryu Coco as Austin. And yes, this does mean Suisei maps to John Cena.
The V-Tubers are fat men joke has kinda proven to be totally wrong though. Tons of them have revealed their IRL personas and most of them are cute girls from what I've seen.
All the groups wants people to relaunch as a new character under them so that the groups control the characters and its impossible for them to leave the group without leaving the character too. This prevents people from using the groups promotions to get big then take off, and it also arguably gives the groups potentially exploitative power.
funny thing about innk music. that entire branch went kaput in the end. and azki herself also moved to hololive, where she is also getting much better reception there
Apparently she low key kinda looks like this IRL too according to multiple accounts-slim, fashionable, and apparently attractive enough that even other girls have to do a second take. (Her sister is apparently the same physically albeit better endowed and cripplingly introverted)
Something else to add to her skillset: she wrote her own lyrics for two songs (Next Color Planet and Ghost) she performs in her first album. Also, the guy playing the guitar that appears during her vocal performance isn't just a rando; that's former Bandai Namco composer Taku Inoue. They've been collaborating on music projects for two years now, which included two live concerts.
this is the video that a year ago started my journey through hololive. From my first song listen, to my first livestream to attending the 2nd EN Concert Breaking Dimesnions and making all sorts of friends through the community, it all started from this one Asmon react video
Holy shit, thanks for sharing this Asmon! I didn't even realize she went thru all this, I've seen her on youtube a lot and know her roughly, but man I shed some tears listening to this. Thank you for spotlighting this!
I really surprised but happy you watched/covered this. Its one of the greatest stories of hololive members, if not Vtubing moments. To see her persistence to make it even having to do everything herself and being ignored by her own management, And definitely one of the top three singers of hololive (with Chole and Watame). Shes a tetrice guru. Her Micomet collabs are some of the best moments in Hololive You see these type stories in spots alot too. Being called too short, got no talent, but go on to the greatest players of the game cause they didnt give up.
But then again, having a great talent in your hands =/= you get a smash hit. Activ8 had horribly mismanaged Kizuna AI, Sony did the same to Kaguya Luna, etc.
That first take performance was 4 months after her major surgery, not only was it surgery, it was throat surgery, which makes that performance even more impressive.
The appeal of vtubers is the biggest ones tend to not talk about real life, at least the majority of time, you get home from your 9-5 and you can just immerse yourself into a stream with no attachment to reality people are tired of politics and dealing with real world problems they just want to forget for a little and vtubers are cute and funny which no attachment to your real world. Its the same reason people like playing video games and why politics and woke culture ruin that experience for people.
This is why I find Suisei to be more of an inspiration than anything. The fact she faced the absolute rock bottom and has become a powerhouse in the vtubing world is something else, to me it shows that even if I might be at rock bottom, if I keep at it and keep working I'll make it too. SuiSei truly is stellar stellar.
Fun fact: As a musician, getting featured in First Take in JP is a big deal. It is literally for pros performing in a high level. For a Vtuber being recognized as a performing artist is amazing. Also, her First Take was watched live by a whopping 500k+ viewers. I was one of those and let me tell you, it really made me tear up a bit knowing the meaning of her song and all of her hard work culminating to that moment.
I was at work when this happened I popped in my ear buds and jammed out couldn't watch it but I know it was a bop
Add on to the lyrics for Stellar Stellar itself, and it’s literally the culmination of everything she worked for and believed.
"What I wanted to be was never a Cinderella who waits forever, but the prince who goes and gets things done." My favorite line from the song. Suisei through and through.
@@SenseofNoneYT That's the benefit of writing your own lyrics, you can get lyrics that really match with who you are ^^
This. I was there too and I was crying watching her perfmoring in First Take to... It was like a big and emotionnal History moment.
From playing Holocure to reacting to Hololive content, this is peak AsmonGOLD
now we just wait till the day he jumped in the hole like everyone else
He's going to join us here in the rabbit hole pretty soon
This is first state, we just wait for now
My man fallin deep in the rabbit hole and I'm all for it
Completely unbiased comment
That was heartwarming. Aight, we went above quota for positivity.
Blizzard, do something again to balance it out.
Lmao this man….but seriously just wait a week, blizzard gonna fuck something or some game up again lol
They're on it lol
Let Blizzard cook. Hahahha
So Blizzard brings the perfect equilibrium?
So if they mess up on biblical levels we will also get a wholesome/positive moment equally as big
@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU ojou giggles and dochi dochi 10 hour loop
that's the next stream
We're getting close to Asmon declaring an oshi and him sending supers live on stream to his favorite anime girl
Already has a vtuber child, we are really not that far
@@amedicabg He's literally ahead all of us XD
He has a daughter named Kasii, check her out on twitch
I'm sure at this rate Asmon will start his own VTuber agency
@@Mysmer HageLive lmao
The fact asmon went from playing holocure, playing as suisei, people explaining that she is the "tetris girl" and then actually look up how she made it as a vtuber (basically learning about her lore) is legit awesome to see. I still remember seeing asmon react to clips sent by viewers and him just going "ugh more weeb shit". What a transformation
He got out of the WoW player "Hate everything that's Japanese" mindset and improved himself lol
@@lucylu3342 that's not all, he can now play other games that's not WoW.
He grows up after all those year 😂
@@lucylu3342 and to think this whole thing is caused by wow itself lol.
they made a wow expansion so bad that asmon just straight up stopped playing and jumped on final fantasy 14, where this whole thing started 😂
@@Gundumb781 damn right, without the Shadowland Asmon would still be similar his old day.
3:33 For the "why?" they wanted her to restart with a new character and new name: By doing so, the character and name would belong to the company, not the vtuber. It gives way more control to the company.
Suisei is an exception in the japanese vtuber world, in that she owns her character and name, it is not the property of Hololive, unlike all the other Hololive vtubers. But she had to fight very hard to keep that character and name...
Should be updated higher. Thanks
Hilariously when the entire Cover branch youtube channel tree was threatened with mass channel deletion due to copyright strikes, they had to take a few weeks break to figure it out and work to make the strikes disappear. The only one unaffected was of course Suisei, who made the channel herself. Most likely Cover has a different contract with her, but if she were to ever break out of Hololive, which I doubt cuz she's grateful to them, then she'd be able to keep her character probably. The rest of the talents cannot.
I was under the impression that Sora also owns the rights to her character, having been the first talent before the company really decided to invest in vtubers, but I can't find anything affirming that in the few minutes I'm willing to dig into it.
Cover Corp is so damn cool.
Thanks YAGOO
Makes you wonder what concessions she ended up making to join Hololive 🤔
She is not as OG as Kizuna Ai or the Four queens, but Suisei’s story is literally a cinderella story for vtubers. Really shows: you have to work hard for your dream no matter what. Even with a crazy amount of talent. The rest is history. Luck plays a role in success, but effort separates the great from the best.
i would say the entirity of gen 0.
not to mention other Hololive members has stories to tell. for example A duck got her house burned down and took as many job as they can to help their family, she thought this vtuber thing is just a small gig worth every penny. Then there's this sheep who is coming from a single parent family, her father throws her away while her mother work very hard to keep the family afloat. There's also this baby who once failed so hard that her original project is scrapped, but she's given second chance (like Suisei) to join Hololive main branch.
@@kmeanxnethdon’t forget a certain En member who loved idols so much she moved to japan to pursue to become one, and now is dropping a new solo album
@@kmeanxnethAlso a certain Shrine Maiden where the N word saved her career.
@@mzou89who auditioned for AKB48 no less and iirc passed the first round
Yeah, I did say A story. All of Hololive members have stories of overcoming overwhelming odds and hurdles.
What a worldline we live in. Suisei is honestly the real apex of vtubers if you ask me, and it's great whenever people discovers her.
Watched her in 2020 when she was taking off doin gta collabs with miko. Truly came a long way to 2m subscribers.
Get off the internet
@Astelch Yh I've seen that certain clip of Miko in GTA xd
@@expressvpn8433 you are welcome to leave if you cant handle others enjoying something you dont like
she made people discovy her, she made her own odds
Man, what a wholesome video. She went from quitting to becoming a superstar on her own while being used and rejected all the way through her journey. Glad she found the success she deserves, that took a lot of resilience and passion.
She is the best example for not quitting and continue. I love her, she is such an amazing talent. I love to draw her model so much
@@BasagazelI mean if you want best example then miko easily clears that. Going from the vtuber with the least subscribers to one of the most beloved and certainly an icon within hololive
@@josuevillca3437that's micomet for ya😂
I think it’s just a testament that you shouldn’t give up, even when multiple people tell you “no.” Not that it was anywhere close to the level of rejection Suisei went through, I ran into a similar situation in my career. When I was getting started, I had a lot of potential employers tell me “no,” even though I had a lot of unique skills that set me apart from others in my career field at the time. Mostly because at the time, they didn’t see how these skills would translate.
Fast forward eight years later, someone finally decided to take a chance on me and I ended up winning one of the highest honors in my region twice in three years. Much like Suisei, I was “ “ close to giving up on this career because I was getting sick of the rejection, but I’m glad that I kept with it, even though it caused me to live through two very difficult years that brought on crippling depression. Something I had going for me though during those tough years was that I had a current boss and a former boss who “believed” in me. They knew I had the capabilities to be one of the best in my profession, I just needed to learn how to properly apply my skills and hone my work ethic to make it more efficient.
Seeing Suisei’s journey makes me really happy that others have gone through similar trials and tribulations and they turned out to be all the more successful because of that. The other day, I heard a piece of advice that I think everyone could adopt and it would make their lives better. This is what that advice is…
There is no such thing as failure. When you perceive something to be a failure, you are taking a look at that failure through a microscopic lens without seeing the bigger picture. “Failures” provide a learning experience to better yourself and the people around you. As long as you see the bigger picture and continue to learn from your mistakes, you’ll never stop improving until you become the best at what you do.
@@josuevillca3437I think sora takes it even further, she and A-chan kickstarted the idea of Hololive as a whole with a whopping… what was it, 6 viewers not including staff? Yagoo agreed to support Sora’a dream and now she’s a famous figure in Japan.
she doesn’t do as much TH-cam streaming, but is far more well-known in real life by ordinary people than any other holomem
The First Take is probably as high as a Japanese musician could go. It's like the Tiny Desk concerts of Japan, but it was a huge deal since she's obviously not going in as a "real person," and you're basically thrusting this anime girl into a very mainstream community. She absolutely kills the performance and within 24 hours it had millions of views, something only the most popular of artists could accomplish on their channel
She still has her life goal, solo live at the Budokan. Which at this point I think the only barriers are scheduling and money. I have zero doubts she can sell the place out, since the capacity is only 14.5k.
Despite all the past history im always glad to see aZki and suisei still have a good relationship and collab together
tbf it mostly INONAKA management faults there. Now that it dissolved and aZki join Hololive, her popularity also jump high
@@r3dr4te963Yeah, the foremost of the INNK management also admitted as such; they had been trying to focus on AZKi to Suisei's expense, but they also found themselves incompetent in managing even just one talent. It was only months since AZKi joined Hololive proper and she also blew up, primarily due to her Geoguessr streams.
Also worth noting is the fact that INNK Music was a joint project between Activ8 (parent company of upd8 and also the company of Kizuna AI) and Cover (parent company of Hololive), the former being the senior partner. And as we know, upd8 had been shite in managing their talents, and some of them had left the company for either Nijisanji or Hololive.
@@r3dr4te963 IIRC, INNK had weird restrictions because it was operated by both Cover and upd8, so Cover management doesn't have complete control over Suisei and AZKi. I think it was only until upd8 was gone that things changed, though I couldn't confirm that one.
@@spongebobfan78this is the truth but upd8 damaged INNK Music so much that after they walked out from the project that INNK Music still can't support other Vtubers than AZKi.
@@spongebobfan78 As much as I love the upd8's talents, that company is really something... Good thing, it got broken although kinda sad for the talents...
Im glad asmon is super open minded about unusual content such as vtubers, though its becoming more mainstream. I can see how weird it is for people to watch an anime character instead of a real person, which would definitely turn off alot of people. But he embraces that things are just different, instead of being quick to judge someone for what they are.
"unusual content" my dude do you live under a rock?
@@gedrgesfsdfwe4046It’s more common now, but it’s still very niche content. Most streamers don’t really interact with Vtubers at all. And Asmon has pretty much always been on board with vtubing, even near the very start of it getting mainstream attention like with projektMelody.
It still baffles me, how wow viewerbase, which is most of his viewers, have always been so close minded to everything that's nerdy, or are so quick to jump on making fun of other people, considering wow's neckbeard and basement dwellers reputation.
I guess it's true that a wow player is just a wow player, and not a real nerd.
@@gedrgesfsdfwe4046 I don't even think a majority of people who use a computer have seen a vtuber. Its easy to get caught up in thinking people know about something when youre in communities that do.
@@Akhelium Even nerds have standards, and vtubers are for the lowest of the low
I always find it hilarious that she said that part of her selling pitch to get into hololive was "Think about it, its the perfect Cinderella story for vtubers" as one of the reasons she should keep her persona, like big company getting someone Indie that was not that big and catapulting their career
And a perfect story it is. On a side note, A-chan once again saved a soon-to-be industry changer talent.
@@snailthelostcow63Isn't Suisei the first one she saved? Or did I remember that wrongly?
@@L16htW4rr10rnot exactly saved, but Hololive started with A-chan convincing Yagoo to turn his tech company into a streaming company to support the dream of her best friend, Sora. Yagoo agreed, they had a slow start but none of them ever gave up and eventually succeeded more than they could ever dream of
Friend-A is used as a term for a 'sidekick/background friend' character in anime, but A-chan is a hell of a protagonist in my opinion 🥲
a-chan deserves so much more recognition!
13:48 The dude is actually called Taku Inoue. He is a pretty famous japanese musician, who reached out to suisei because he was impressed by her singing. He is also the one who composed her song "Stellar Stellar" that she's singing here.
Random dude is actually the composer
"I can't believe he's watching this" I've been saying this a lot lately
This is one aspect of vtuber idol culture that I think is genuinely fascinating: following a 1view andy from day 1 and after 2 years, see them grow to a 5view behemoth. It's like investment but with a person instead of money
It's part of the appeal of the idol journey. People are so fixated on the obsessive fans that practically want to murder the talents the moment they step outta line, they forget about the many more that are in it and invested in the growth of watching a budding talent realize their potential, and the genuine joy that comes from watching them succeed.
that isn't Idol culture
It is Japanese culture
Because the Japanese are just like everybody else, Just more so
the clutch A-chan pulled was life changing.. i'd devote my life to support her if i were suisei
A-chan the true MVP of Hololive.
Is A-chan staff from HoloLive or another VTuber?
@@wuy4 Hololive Staff
@@wuy4 she’s a staff member who hosts events and occasionally streams on the official Hololive channel (going over news, watch-a-longs of concerts, etc.). What’s especially special about A-chan is that she’s close friends with Tokino Sora, the very first Hololive member. Story goes Sora wanted to be an idol and A-chan helped convince Sora to give vtubing a shot. So when I say A-chan is the hidden MVP of Hololive I’m wasn’t kidding. Without her and Sora there wouldn’t be a Hololive in the first place.
@@mzou89 Thanks for explaining things. I don't know anything about vtubers much less Hololive. But the Holocure game (awesome game btw) has shown me that their is a "iceberg" of lore in the entire franchise.
I always get teary when i hear the story of suisei. Her determination is an inspiration. Glad that asmon got to know her and hoping she can support her
Seems like something got into my eyes while watching this...
I'm proud to call Suisei my JP oshi
A huge shame he didn't finish the video. The call-response at the end brings me to tears every time
he wouldn't have been able to appreciate it. No hate, he just isn't ready for that connection.
that genuine praise and respect she got from her father, dude, only select few of asian ever experience that
She's said that her parents frequently watch her content on their big screen tv in the living room.
The thing that she almost made earth blew away was her "The First Take", basically its a recording without retake, just a pure voice into the mic, not to mention she became the first Vtuber that perform in The First Take channel.
Oh, so we're actually well and truly in the rabbit hole now.
2:09 Funnily enough, every VTuber in Hololive has their IRL identity already unearthed and documented EXCEPT Suisei as her social media presence prior to becoming a VTuber almost non-existent and the only ones they could find are voices she had done in very small music covers.
Is Subaru already unearthed too?
I wanna know
What even more impressive is that she never upload a single selfie or a picture of herself her whole life lmao
@@sambuddy4465she looks almost exactly like her avatar lol
@@sambuddy4465Yes, she got doxxed. Fortunately there was no harm done to her, but considering they combed thru who joined Okayu's memberships when Subaru said "I joined your members" to find Subaru... Frankly to me anyone that would reference Subaru's irl looks is creepy. It's not like DemonDice or Keekihime, it was her private channel bruh.
@@HudaefCares Bruh.
Brooo... I never knew how hard it was for her. I only started knowing Hololive since 2020 and oh boy I thought she had the same start as Azki. I kinda respect her more now since I know of her efforts based on the tournaments that she won including Mario Kart, Apex Legends, Tetris and more that I probably missed out on (some friendly tournaments between Japanese streamers/vtubers).
She is indeed a diamond in the rough, I'm happy A-chan helped her and guided her back to the path of light, gave her hopes and dreams just like when she started the journey. Good video, and good reaction as well, kinda choked myself with water when Asmon showed the picture of a random fat person xD
Yeah, she's got one of the most incredible stories out of all the Hololive members. Especially since she's the only one who kept the same persona from before joining. And it's wild seeing Asmon reacting to this shit.
The entirity of gen 0 actually struggled hard... (*edit* from sora having 13 viewers) on her first stream, miko being transfered from one branch of cover corp to another even roboco has her fair share of those... and to think that Gen 0 is still complete. They're a bunch of stong girls...
how hard it was for her to sell some fake ass anime character? maybe just get a job. its not hard
@@kaimojepasltguess what? It is a job and in fact one that gets her probably tenfold anything entry level could. She gets to be a singer and at the same time not deal with all the awful shenanigans that women in Japanese entertainment get from all the creeps knowing how you look.
@@Bobbias Technically Miko and Roboco started outside of Hololive and were later brought in, and didn't change their identities.
Well, thats what i call a TRUE Idol. Not just something that was created to be popular, but someone actually becoming something people can look up to by hard work.
What are u smoking on, most Idol do work hard, do u thing they just magucal can dance or sing?
N for most vtuber they not doing easy way, most all vtuber have almost same story like suisei, for Suise, because her hard work she has connection to A-chan, that 1 her lucky for her hard work,,
@@aryabaditz3092Well some people used their money, family, or connections to become popular. Though with mixed results.
For someone who have K-Pop *Idol* profile pic, you should have known how hard to become an idol in eastern culture.
@@CuriousNeon Pretty racist man
@@Shinobia543 wth how is that even remotely racist? 💀
Her story made me cry a lot, today, after seeing this video, I cried a lot again.
I rewatch it time to time. It really reduce stress to vicariously happy for her.
This past year I see Zack's been grinding content, not only to judge them, but genuinely curious and learn about them, understand them, and then react to it.
Many other big names would often react by laughing at what they do not understand and refuse to spend even a second to learn about others' cultures, like this one, idol culture, but this man is not only reacting but trying to understand.
If it's Zack from 3-4 years ago, the thought of him looking at "somewhat-anime-character" would be as real as seeing a unicorn.
Idol culture is pretty trash, these situations like the one with weather report girl are insane. Lately we also got Oshi no Ko on this subject. But v-tubers are cool tho
I think part of that comes from him playing FF14, which made him be more open to stuff like cat girls, which was his gateway to more anime stuff, but in the end the reason he got into FF14 in the first place is blizzard being shit and ruining wow, so in the end new anime accepting asmon is all thanks to blizzard
@@bankaihampter2802 if wanna v-tuber Oshi no ko try find story abaut mano aloe hololive v-tuber or chnise branch of hololive.
@Xx1devilgod1xX But was him getting open for FFXIV not thanks to CaptainGrim?
@bankaihampter2802 yh V-tubers have the unspoken rule of no drama.
Most controversies kinda come from the agencies themselves though.....
I remember joining the Suisei train before she got to 100k subs and it was amazing (inspiring) to see her consistently smash through all the goals she set for herself. Her biggest dream used to be to do a solo live with her original music and she soared past that goal and is still rising. Also, not mentioned in the video is that part where she's singing in a white room is from a youtuber called "The First Take" with over 8 million subs where they often invite popular Japanese artists to perform and it's all in one take. She's been featured on their channel, not once but twice and her combined viewership from those two videos is almost 20 million views.
"She's been featured on their channel, not once but twice"
That's kinda the usual deal, though. Pretty much every singer they invite to the channel does 2 songs. (unless you're a huge superstar in japan like LiSa who did multiple sessions and is at least at 5-6 songs for First Take)
Thats the rule for 1st take afaik, 1 old song + 1 newly released song
Suisei is IN my opinion, the best singer in all of Hololive and probably THE if not, one of, the most hard working and persevering vtubers. She is just, amazing.
Nerissa definitely climbing tho
Singer i would agree.. hardworking, that's a bit difficult since a certain workaholic reaper exists.
Ayunda : ehmmm.
It's hard to compare exactly, because those make other people feel worse. I do think she did insane things to get where she is. Amazing story.
@@seamusogil9229Heard of Ayame? Shion?
Whether you like Vtuber or not, Suisei story is one great success story.
Love how some of the “wtf” moved from “wtf is asmon watching” to “wtf why did they do her dirty”
YEEES, this is one of my favorite VTuber, an amazing singer and entertainer. It is so good that Asumon-papa is getting more and more cultured every day; He's getting deeper into the rabbit hole and I'm all in for that.
The crossover is insane
From holocure to watching the goat suisei in all her glory, asmon ought to give stellar stellar a listen, certified banger of a song
For some extra context, at 13:46 the "Random dude with a guitar" is Taku Inoue, an artist and music producer who collaborated with Suisei on a couple of tracks, one under his name "Sanji Juunihun" and one under Suisei's "Stellar, Stellar," which was the opening track to her debut album mentioned in the video "Still Still Stellar."
They later created a music project together under the name Midnight Grand Orchestra and have also performed together live under that name. Suisei with her 3D model and Inoue as himself, with instruments and in front of green screen.
Not mentioned in the video but Suisei did a 3D convert livestream on her YT channel soon after the EN branch was created "STARt IN THE SCREEEN!". After watching that, I went from someone who was casually dipping in and out of the Hololive "rabbit hole," to fully diving in and exploring more of the music side of Hololive.
There are many such stories in the vtuber community, and it means more personally when most of these people got into vtubing to make friends or get over social issues.
Talent can only get you so far, you need drive, and likewise, love for it. This applies to everything worth having.
Asmon's stuck here now, and bound to claim a vtuber oshi soon.
modelling and rigging her own model from scratch without any knowledge whatsoever is amazing. from zero to hero.
I'm glad, but surprised he watched it.
Though thinking about how he's also a content creator and knows the struggles DIRECTLY it was probably uniquely interesting to watch for him.
Oh, and talent manager.
I have immense respect for Suisei. Knowing how much she struggled and seeing how talented and successful she is now is an inspiration for any aspiring V-Tuber.
Suisei's story and climb to where she is now is so damn heartwarming
Never expect Asmon to react to this. Suisei is a living proof that hardwork beats luck and she's the reason I grew to be an "idealistic idiot" I am today.
Everytime things goes south I always tell myself "Keep going. Suisei also went through this, I'm on the right track."
Suisei is the "batman tells you to clean your room" for weebs and I love it
I wouldn't get too spooked on good luck vs hard work here
Suisei *did* and *does* work extremely hard, but not everyone that works as hard as her makes it.
@@BigRatNate True, but you won't make it without hard work. There's a possibility it won't pay off, sure, but there's no potential for success if you don't put in the effort.
@@BigRatNate Yeah I wasn't talking about hard work equal success. I mean hard work affect your success rate more than luck. You can rely on hard work, but you can't rely on luck.
@@kingrepeats even if possibility just 1%, look at her success just make me wanna bet all on that 1%
I never knew her story before this. It's really inspirational to hear she started from nothing all on her own to where she is now.
Hell, can't even claim she was riding on Hololive's success, cuz they were still fairly small when she joined.
@@megamage911Anyone from the early gens is literally the reason Hololive is successful, that includes Suisei.
@@megamage911Yeah, they including Susei were the ones who built it from the ground up
@@L.A.M.B_B4Every new generation and addition brings more avenues for Hololive to expand on, which brings in more additions, and so on and so forth.
@@megamage911it’s a bit of both. Having Hololive’s financial and managerial support is what truly saved her career, and as they say a rising tide floats all boats. On the other hand, I’m terms of popularity she was very much middle of the pack when around Myth’s debut and most of her meteoric rise in popularity came the year after when she started dropping her most popular songs, so her current popularity is very much cause of her own work.
For me, Vtubers are great & special because how honest they are in their hard work. They may have virtual masks hiding their real selfs but what is real & down to earth that you can relate to is their sincere feelings you can feel through their huge amount of effort.
Holocure pull him into the rabbit hole.....
....there is no escape now!
Never thought I'd see the day. Hope he reacts to Miko's journey as well.
"Today we gonna talk about the rise of Sakura Miko."
"Interesting"
"It all started from a viral clip where she said the N word."
"WTF!?"
yeah the goated GTA V era....i'll look forward on his reaction
she is such a nice hardworking person minato aqua has always been my favorite and suisei befriended her and really brought her out of her shell everyone needs a friend like suisei
Yep. Thats my Shooting Star. The reasons I still follow her even after 6 years. Suisei is not just cute.
Get out of the rabbit hole. Its impossible to leave when you fall in.
He already knows about vtubers, just not Hololive.
Asmon papa ayaya
TH-cam kept suggesting Gura in my feed for an entire year and I kept just scrolling by. My initial thought was "Is this from some sort of anime?"
I finally gave in and watched a clip of Dante and Vergil wishing her a happy birthday. I'm now incredibly happy in this rabbit hole and never plan to come out of it.
@@nujevad28 And he was a guest in Ironmouse's Speak of the Devil
It's true, once you're in you'll never get out, and Asmon is already in. It's already way too late for Asmon haha
Gen 0's story is really interesting and it can make you cry, especially Sora's.
Man, I freaking cried watching that video. I'm so proud of Suisei. She's an inspiration. Glad Asmon getting into vtuber 😂
When stellar stellar first take started playing I broke
Wait now he's actually reacting to an actual Hololive contents!?
Still waiting Asmon to declare an oshi-kai.
Tbh Suisei is peak hardwork. She tried everything and wasted no effort for her goals. Even having less $$ every month for her dream. But its all worth it seeing her.
Hololive is filled with wholesome stories of each member struggling to finally making it. Miko trying to get viewers to finally exploding her channel when she played GTAV; Subaru having to deal with her heart condition, to her house burning down, to finally becoming an idol; Sora having just a dozen viewers on her first stream to becoming the face of Hololive, Risu going from a self taught singer to stunning the world with her 3D debut in a performance that would make Celine Dion jealous; for every member there is a story. But Suisei's story practically takes the cake, its the stuff 80s inspiring movies were made of.
Honestly a lot of these v tubers are amazing, not just in terms of personality but in their overall journey. Some ended sadly but a lot of them became a success that you can be proud of even if you're a long time viewer or just recently jump into a hole
I'm so happy that he's reacting to this video, her story is amazing and I never expecting to see Asmon fall down the hololive rabbit hole
Asmon reacting to Suisei
What a time to be alive
trivia: I forgot if she released this as an indie vtuber, but her supposed final song was "Ghost" (the current one on her channel is the re-released version)
She made a decision that if it didn't fly, she would stop all activities. Thankfully, it did. And the rest, is history.
Ghost is just phenomenal as a song, I really like that one.
It wasn't Ghost that was gonna be her last song, it was Tenkyuu!
Watching Asmon interact with and enjoy vtubers is just so perfect.
im a fan of her for a while now and ngl when i saw her on her own Live 3D concert i had tears in my eyes. she worked hard and it payd off at the end (also A Chan MVP!)
Suisei is one of my favorite Hololive streamers. Her Tetris play is top tier, but I still love her performance in Project Winter.
It became a big meme, but she was hilarious.
„Hi honeyyyyy“
Its simple. Some people like anime. Some people like streamers. What if somehow we made an anime character be able to stream live? There is the technology.
Also I can see the appealing of being able to stream while keeping your private persona off camera.
It also kinda helped get more female streamers out there.
The more you know about vtubers the more you realized how hardworking, talented, and entertaining a lot of them are (especially the ones in big agencies). It's more than just a gimmick.
Definitely. I mean, people constantly talk about vtubing like it's some far-off but ultimately 'lazy' way of streaming, yet they don't have the same perspective about any other mode of streaming - which is what vtubing just is. It's streaming. But what's even crazier is that the barrier for entry is so much higher than face-cam streaming (let alone streaming without a face-cam).
Sure, all streamers who want to succeed have to have a good sense for entertainment. But with Vtubing, it's not just you get OBS, have a PC with good-enough specs for the games you play & stream, and maybe have a webcam. It's all that + either paying for, or being skilled enough to model/draw and then rig an avatar, incorporate that avatar into an otherwise unorthodox setup (it's still different from just having a webcam), and then know how to place yourself amidst an albeit niche but still very saturated market of other vtubers. I don't see why a lot of people start off as seeing Vtubing as 'lazy' or low effort, but out of all forms of streaming, it most surely isn't low effort haha. And you can't get in it if you aren't skilled enough already, or don't have a large-enough initial fund to invest into something that has an equal chance of failing as any other streamer does.
But overall whether or not this or that vtuber is 'hardworking' I think doesn't matter. I'm just really annoyed by the fact so many people place their dismay on vtubers just because they don't reveal their face. I think that's the worst part, because for the first time in a long time, we're being given a platform where everyone is on equal footing and have equal opportunities to entertain, with only one's voice and creativity left to discriminate between. No need to worry about having to look like a supermodel just to have a boost in viewership. It'd be so nice if we could get so many talented people to make the content that they've wanted to make, without having to have the burden of having your face revealed, or anything personal connected to you. If you have a lot of cool ideas to stream, I don't think you should be pressured to having to reveal your face. Vtubing gives people who are in situations like that an extra avenue, which is better for us viewers because that means there'll be a larger diversity in who gets to make content or not. More people to watch, more opinions to be heard, and more fun times to be had.
The random dude in the video is Taku Inoue, the music composer for one of the music groups Suisei is part of, Midnight Orchestra. He wrote the music Suisei performed at the First Take, Stellar Stellar. He is also new to the music industry at large after being one of the key music composers and producers at Bandai Namco, he was one of the predominant music creators for idolM@ster. After he left Bandai Namco no one was really sure if he was going to be a good fit for non-game music. His work with Suisei put those questions to rest very quickly.
They're putting out another mini-album in a few weeks. I hope they do another 3D concert for it. Their previous one was really good.
This comeback story is making be cry simply due to her grit and suffering.... She pushed through all of it and slowly but surely achieved her goals getting the approval and love from hundreds of random people qnd many of those close to her. She represents the possibility before those who don't give up and that always means something to someone like myself.
To this day she is the only agency vtuber that owns her own character as an IP. Unlike everyone else, when she retires she gets to keep being the same person.
All the rest need to hang up their characters and walk away from them like an old rented suit.
Yes, but as mentioned in the video, she really had to fight to keep the ownership of her character... It's especially impressive since she was offered deals to become an agency vtuber, and rejected all of those deals, just to keep her character and identity. Not many would have said no to those agencies for that reason...
I think Miko also own her character, since she was indie recruited into Hololive
@@Cosmoman78 Did she stream before hololive on her own channel?
In her era hololive didnt even exist. it was just an iphone face tracking app. But she and roboco might have been the first cover capture.
@@Cosmoman78 almost everyone in hololive was an indie first. If Miko streamed as Miko before hololive this would be news to me
@@Cosmoman78She is actually a vtuber under cover corp not indie. Cover corp is also a Hololive parent company.She first debuted under a cover corp before being transferred to Hololive.
Her stubbornness to remain suisei no matter what agency brought her in, i something I admire. She worked her butt off to get where she is, and i wish her even more success. First take is as it sounds, only one take for the video. Stellar stellar killed it
"First take is as it sounds, only one take for the video"
Yes, there's even some singers who messed up in their First Take video, and even a group who after making 2 mistakes during the recording, did their own private recording on their own channel that they called a "First Take Revenge" version ^^
Suisei is one of the few Vtubers that "made it" and has build a solid fanbase (even though it's not among the more numerous ones) without appealing to sexual jokes, dramas, cursing, kinky outfits, or overuse of video reaction content (like "your boi" here). She's got a pretty model and is stylish without being overly sexualized too. Her main attraction is singing and she doesn't have a talented voice (as for singing), but she's put enough training into it to make it "good" even if not exceptional.
I say this and I'm not against "big booba" Vtubers (love some Mori), nor cringe-content (I like Nyanners too). Just saying that impresses me a lot how a Vtuber can make it without any of those and to know that she insisted on that model and style even after being rejected 2 times, instead of changing for a more "trending way". That is admirable imo.
Important to note for people who have only listened to American music: Japanese music is all about riding the line between Harmony and dissonance. Constantly flirting with going off key but never quite. It's actually much more difficult to pull off than just singing on key clearly. And it's why Anime music all sounds kind of different.
I got to know about Vtubers for the first time through suisei's amazing cover of king and phony, I'm really in awe and admiration for her in anything she's accomplished and is doing and is planning. I cry every time I cross this video and I will click on it again and again. I will never skip this video and really makes me realize how pushing through rock bottom times really makes you shine above anyone else. Just like a star
Oh wow, you are going even deeper into this, cool! 😁
I appreciate that you wanted to learn more about vtubers, some people find the entire concept weird. Vtubers just like any other content creators can provide a lot of entertainment and many of them have very interesting stories to tell. Suisei's is definitely a very heartwarming one, she faced a lot of challenges and finally achieved her dream career
I really hope more people will open up to this, the talents are sometimes misjudged and misunderstood in eyes of those unfamiliar with them
That was awesome. Suisei's story is always so inspiring whenever I hear it.
Fun fact: The guitarist in the first take video is none other then Taku Inoue: The composer for Tekken 7 and other Bandai Namco games, he made a new band called midnight grand orchestra which he had Suisei be the vocalist. She has also worked with the composer of the kingdom hearts games Yoko Shimomura.
That's wild. I'm sure there are stories of failed careers as well. Seems like a tough industry to compete in.
Of course. VTubing in those days is like the California Gold Rush. It is given that a lot of people will end up as failures no matter the talent and work ethic. But, as with every job known to man, there might be a time when opportunity will come knock at your door, and it is up to you if you will open that door, or think it is another failure and move on. Although that opportunity could come after years of hard work with nothing to show for it. (The latter was also a true story in the VTuber sphere and that happened just recently.)
It's indeed a very tough industry, just like any other entertainment industry though. In every form, only cream of the top would stand on the...top.
You bet there are, as in any other career. Or you are genuinely entertaining in a big vtuber agency or no support for you, very simple.
Even in big agencies there are lots of differences in number for each talent, so you better start working harder, again, just like in every other career.
There is
One such is the Go Go Nippon twins. They were essentially axed by their company for being not successful despite the twins efforts. They couldn't do it
Luckily the 2 are doing much much better now
@@lionelk.y7233 The company behind GGN had ceased all operation as game developer, while it's true that they stopped GGN vtuber project as well it's not like they are coming from the position of financial flexibility.
This video of her ups and downs always makes me cry a little, because of so much respect I have for her all really hard work and the spirit she puts into her career.
I believe Suisei has the potential to be THE mainstream Vtuber. The Vtuber that people wouldn't be embarrassed to be a fan of.
People make the wrestling analogy a lot. But this is a case where it's more specifically applicable.
This is due to the different eras of Vtubing and wrestling lining up to give us some fun parallels.
For instance, Kizuna Ai as Hogan and Kiryu Coco as Austin.
And yes, this does mean Suisei maps to John Cena.
@@LilyKazami”Yo taimu is apu, my taimu is now, yu canto Suisee me, my taimu is now.”
@@LilyKazami No people actually like Suisei
"What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger"
The V-Tubers are fat men joke has kinda proven to be totally wrong though. Tons of them have revealed their IRL personas and most of them are cute girls from what I've seen.
13:50 >Radom dude
Bro he created Midnight Grand Orchestra with her
All the groups wants people to relaunch as a new character under them so that the groups control the characters and its impossible for them to leave the group without leaving the character too. This prevents people from using the groups promotions to get big then take off, and it also arguably gives the groups potentially exploitative power.
funny thing about innk music. that entire branch went kaput in the end. and azki herself also moved to hololive, where she is also getting much better reception there
Apparently she low key kinda looks like this IRL too according to multiple accounts-slim, fashionable, and apparently attractive enough that even other girls have to do a second take.
(Her sister is apparently the same physically albeit better endowed and cripplingly introverted)
Something else to add to her skillset: she wrote her own lyrics for two songs (Next Color Planet and Ghost) she performs in her first album.
Also, the guy playing the guitar that appears during her vocal performance isn't just a rando; that's former Bandai Namco composer Taku Inoue. They've been collaborating on music projects for two years now, which included two live concerts.
I like this lets go guys keep bring him to the rabbit hole
And spread the rabbit hole to unsuspecting folk
6:35 Thanks for responding to my question and sharing this video!
this is the video that a year ago started my journey through hololive. From my first song listen, to my first livestream to attending the 2nd EN Concert Breaking Dimesnions and making all sorts of friends through the community, it all started from this one Asmon react video
so glad Asmond watched her story. Sui-chan has such an inspirational modern success story.
I knew it. Holocure is the gateway drug to the rabbit hole.
Holy shit, thanks for sharing this Asmon! I didn't even realize she went thru all this, I've seen her on youtube a lot and know her roughly, but man I shed some tears listening to this. Thank you for spotlighting this!
The first time I heard Hoshimachi Suisei was her First Take performance. I was blown away. Thank you Hoshimachi for sticking with it
This girl is absolutely incredible, I totally believe that she will achieve her dream of performing at the Tokyo Dome.
suisei was never abandoned, she grew so much.... her own ore made her massive. bigger than what we could of dreamed.
I never thought I'd see the day that Asmon would react to a Suisei video like this. But here we are.
I really surprised but happy you watched/covered this. Its one of the greatest stories of hololive members, if not Vtubing moments. To see her persistence to make it even having to do everything herself and being ignored by her own management, And definitely one of the top three singers of hololive (with Chole and Watame). Shes a tetrice guru. Her Micomet collabs are some of the best moments in Hololive
You see these type stories in spots alot too. Being called too short, got no talent, but go on to the greatest players of the game cause they didnt give up.
Imagine all those agencies reaction knowing that they could have gotten suisei.
But then again, having a great talent in your hands =/= you get a smash hit. Activ8 had horribly mismanaged Kizuna AI, Sony did the same to Kaguya Luna, etc.
My eyes moistened around where she thought about quitting. Those fans switching their lights to blue and a-chan are heroes!
Speaking of the strict Asian father, the way her family finds out she's a VTuber is both wholesome and hilarious. Go look it up. It's really funny.
I can't believe I just witnessed someone fall down the rabbit hole.
I went from this video, to listening to her newest song. I cant believe how much she had to struggle, her voice is incredible
That first take performance was 4 months after her major surgery, not only was it surgery, it was throat surgery, which makes that performance even more impressive.
The appeal of vtubers is the biggest ones tend to not talk about real life, at least the majority of time, you get home from your 9-5 and you can just immerse yourself into a stream with no attachment to reality people are tired of politics and dealing with real world problems they just want to forget for a little and vtubers are cute and funny which no attachment to your real world. Its the same reason people like playing video games and why politics and woke culture ruin that experience for people.
You aint lived until you unwind with Sora Watame or Ina playing Minecraft
This is why I find Suisei to be more of an inspiration than anything. The fact she faced the absolute rock bottom and has become a powerhouse in the vtubing world is something else, to me it shows that even if I might be at rock bottom, if I keep at it and keep working I'll make it too. SuiSei truly is stellar stellar.