YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG! it's not "aluminium": it's normal for liquid metal to enter copper and add a "silver" color; this just an aesthetical problem but it is permanent because it will penetrate very deep (trust me i already tried to sand it away on a copper waterblock). if it was aluminium you would have a huge hole not a decoloration, trust me!
I thought that too. I only had it it on for an hour it would not eat it that quick. I guess it might be possible but I scratch again and it does not look copper
Western Gents United This is correct. Gallium completely disintegrates the desirable physical properties of aluminium and makes it extremely brittle to the point you can literally snap it with your fingers. I am now trying to find the results of saturated gallium absorbtion in copper heatsink and whether the copper will eventually disintegrate like aluminum over a longer timeframe or if the copper maintains it's strength and perhaps enough thermal conductivity.
If it was aluminium and u scratched it u would remove the aluminum oxide coating and cause the aluminium to react faster with the gallium, the reaction creates a gallium amalgam and destroys the aluminium in the process (similar to aluminium and mercury), this reaction is slow and exothermic, generating more heat and speeding up as it progresses. A thin copper coating could probably protect aluminium reasonably well if it was thick enough but I wouldn't take that gamble and if I had my heart set on applying liquid metal thermal paste I wouldn't scratch my cooler at all, I'm not sure what happens if the gallium turns the copper into GaCu2, maybe it would harm the aluminium. The best place to find this information is chemistry texts. I found that gallium actually plates to copper, so your heatsink needs to be nickel plated as nickel won't react with the gallium. If it isn't nickel plated you will gradually turn your copper heatsink into GaCu2, and will constantly need to reapply the paste over time until the reaction finds no more copper to consume. My conclusion, liquid metal (gallium containing) should only be used with nickel coated copper heat sinks if your keeping your device for more than a year or two.
@@raminazizi Copper wont break like aluminium, and as far as I know, the thermal performance remains largely unchanged. But galium will react with copper and 'dry' out, so you will have to repaste your dye after about a year. Best solution is to use LM with nickel plated copper, as nickel is extremly corosion resistant.
The "aluminum" you are seeing on your laptop cold plate is from liquid metal ionizing with the copper plate, creating a silver stain. Thats 100% normal for liquid metal and copper and does not create problems whatsoever. No mid-high end gaming laptop has had a copper coated aluminum heatsink. They are solid copper all the way through. Look up a video by Gamers Nexus on liquid metal. He demonstrates the different effects liquid metal has on copper, aluminum and nickle plated copper.
The trouble with the paste they use is that it's already garbage right out of the box, it's dry as camel turds, produces cracks and micro-gaps all over the place. If they just used something like Kryonaut they'd be good for the expected life of the machine, and not get shit as balls thermals. That goes for pretty much every-fucking-one, every CPU heatsink, every GPU heatsink, at this point, every Intel CPU IHS, all garbage cheap ass TIM.
Aidanjt - would you suggest applying paste out of the box? .. do you know of a good step by step instruction process for a noob? (wanna repaste xps 9570)
Excuse is: the TIM used is for super long duration / the lifecycle of the device. Proven bullshit, but people bend over for their brands and ignore all proof against manufacturers. The so called special TIM is the most basic pidgeon poop scraped from the floor and they probably pay the same price for one bucked of that pidgeon poop as we do for 1g kryonaut.
I like how most of these people who get down to the motherboard and do stuff barely know electronics Those are not Transistors on top the GPU. They're Capacitors.
The idiot said he did this on his xiaomi but wouldnt do it on his dell or somethig. After looking at that motherboard and seing the gpu and cpu chips have underfiller, I would definitly pick xiaomi.
First you started out with great temps with liquid metal, then you got bad temps after a short while. Here is an hypothesis. You used to much conformal coating, and thereby increasing the distance from the die to the COPPER interface because of the bulges you have created. At first the liquid metal was in a low viscosity state which is enough to make atleast some contact between die and interface material. After a few cycles the liquid metal wil become a high viscos liquid and lose volume do to airflow and reaction with the copper, and the liquid metal might even dry out if enough air is let at it. The effect of this would be that the liquid metal will seperate from the die and interface either completely or partially resulting in very high temps indeed.
It is copper, EVERY laptop has copper interface with the die. Liquid metal will react with copper, but only slightly which will result in discoloration and maybe some pitting over time, but it's nothing to worry about, the performance will stay the same during the laptops lifespan.
It's about the quality of the "copper" heatsink. if it's high quality pure copper, it should only leave a very thin layer of stint and won't affact performance at all. But some companies cheap out on heatsink and use copper alloy, the liquid metal is reacting with whateven else in it. But I never seen LM really eat through copper heatsink, even it's copper alloy, it should be fine if you just leave it there and don't try to clear it.
dude, the copper is fusing with the liquid metal to make a gallium alloy 'stain'. you also need to reapply after a month, then once a year to 15 months
@@chini2W0 yup. nail polish works. 2-3 coats would be fine though. Too much nail polish or conformal coating can insulate parts and cause problems. Most people seem to have good success with 3 coats. Hope this helps
Heatsink/aluminium is used to disperse heat into the air, copper is used to transfer/conduct heat from one material to another. That said, aluminium is also a great heat conducter and is used in some waterblok systems, but in laptops it will always be copper.
i know bob did a video showing IC graphite isnt as good as LM, but its better than most pastes ive seen and thanks to it being a sheet, i know it wont goop around and be an issue.
I ordered my XPS 15 32Gb i9 laptop. Dell had a FRENZY FRIDAY deal where they had a 15% discount for the day. I opened the chat window with a Dell representative to ask a question.. And after answering a my question, they offered me an extra 1% on top of the 15%. So 16% off the Dell price. So stoked.....:)
hello sir, I’m wondering is it a must to have conformal coating around cpu/gpu if I’m applying liquid metal to a laptop?? (I bought kapton tape already not sure if that’s enough)
No copper absorbs the liquid metal and makes it look silver, It can only absorb so much I have done many laptops with liquid metal, Your heat think is probably fine
With all the risks involved? To secure LM in place and prevent spillage, to use extremely expensive metal coating (tungsten or tantalum) in order to prevent corrosion? To offer warranty for LM spillage? And in the end, what if you take your laptop out and the LM freezes solid? I'm not sure what's the expansion quotient for LM but it could seriously damage the device innards.
If the manufacturer was doing it and planning for it they'd be using correct materials and application, no risk to you (yeah of course extra cost if they have to go through all that)? You just get a working product. Obviously not for everyone 😛 and cheers, going to start working on it in a few days, got a bunch of other stuff to work through first!
You would think they could make a better system out. They spend so much on R & D of the cooling and Bazza on the assembly line overzealously applying thermal paste throws that out the window
Sure, we normal people can pimp out our laptops with LM for $20 or so but the manufacturing standards will never allow LM in laptops. Cheers, Jarrod, I love your work. :-)
I used clear nail varnish and then once it was dry I used Kapton tape. It's thermally stable tape that can withstand the temperatures a cpu and GPU run at.
It says your CPU is only pushing 2.5ghz that's terrible mate!!!!! I am pushing 4.2ghz on a Dell G3 i7 9750!!! Why is yours so low and why didn't you undervolt it!?
Lol hilarious! The liquid metal has amalgamated with the copper and dried up. Just reapply it and get better results than the last time. As for conformal coating I've never used it I just use clear nail polish and I don't have a problem never has and once I see tell spikes I know it's time to clean and reapply!
lol U got 52C at 2.1GHZ and you saying that is crazy while 100C at 3.12GHZ , BRO I don't get it what you are about :) , ofcourse at 3.12 GHZ U got extra wattage over 40 so it temps will rise much more compare to 15watts at 2.1GHZ. Anyway Nice test ! , I thought about liquid metal in xiaomi gaming laptop but it's too risky
Once you apply normal thermal paste is it just a one time job that lasts the entire life of the machine without ever having to redo it? And are there any risks?
BrandyBoy normal thermal paste does not last forever, but will last a couple years. The way to know when you need to reapply is to just monitor thermals and when you’re running warmer than usual, open up your machine and check it out. If it’s gotten dry and flakey, reapply after cleaning off the old stuff.
If you get the one I recommend in the description it will last the life of the laptop in my experience. I have CPUs with 8 years same thermal paste and it the same as when I done it
Here is what happens to aluminium when exposed to Gallium, which is the main component in liquid metal. The reaction is fast, and in no way would you be able to use your laptop after if your interface was made out of aluminium. th-cam.com/video/IgXNwLoS-Hw/w-d-xo.html Heatsink/aluminium is used to disperse heat into the air, copper is used to transfer/conduct heat from one material to another. That said, aluminium is also a great heat conducter and is used in some waterblok systems, but in laptops it will always be copper. Liquid metal will react with copper, but only slightly which will result in discoloration and maybe some pitting over time, but it's nothing to worry about, the performance will stay the same during the laptops lifespan
@Sad below rightfully corrected me. Linus did that test against thermal paste and not liquid metal. My bad I cant recall all the details but I recall seeing Linus review or talk about a graphene pad that was still in development but seemed to have similar, if not better thermal results and none of the drawbacks of liquid metal. Hope that makes it way to shelves shortly
Yeah you are right. My bad. I had to go back and watch. I thought they tested it against liquid metal but was IC Diamond. Just talked about ease of application vs Liquid Metal. Will update my comment. Thanks
I think what you’re seeing is liquid metal’s tendency to stain copper. It doesn’t look like it’s eaten through it as though it were aluminum, which looks like massive corrosion rather than just staining.
I'm studying electronic engineering I use circuit design softwares, I do programing, AutoCAD, fusion 360, I also like to take pictures so I use Lightroom and play some games (pubg, dirty bomb, Rainbow six siege) occasionally maybe 3 or 4 times a week but not for long periods maybe 2 o 3 hours and I'm thinking about to get the 9575 or the 9570 from one side the 9575 is not that bad for casual gaming and is very good for content creation and it will be nice to operate all the programs I use on tablet mode I also watch a ton of movies and videos 🤔 so the 9575 looks better for me but I'm worry about gaming and also the ports and battery life because I spend a lot of time on the go 🤔 and maybe I can sacrafice the 2 in 1 for better performance, more battery like and better keyboard, more ports and also cheaper price but I'm also worry about thermals on the 9570 I'm not a everyday heavy user but at least 2 or 3 times a week I do some heavy stuff 🤔 help me please thanks I'm a big fan from Dominican Republicpublic
Hello champ. Hard decision right. I would go the XPS 15 unless you like 2 in 1's or will use the pen. Its just has better battery, I like the display better , keyboard ect
Western Gents United I won't use the pen but I would definitely use the tablet mode and the touch screen (i will go for the 1080p on each obe a) lot for editing and watching videos but the lack of ports and battery life worry me but also the thermal issues on the 9570 worry me to
on 3rd min 3:00 he says it was a big mistake ... but i got the wrong one he says or right one? word that he says i figured "right one" but it makes no sense its important for me as im going to do same on 4k laptop and i need to know the reason why did he screwed up can anyone help with my English please i cant figure if its stupid accent or he says wrong like right..... and if he says it was wrong did anyone figured what kind was that so i wont screw up same way? thanks in advance eng isnt my first language but in stupid russian youtube no one does same as we all broke and it will come to us in next century.....
Was scrolling and scrolling, thinking... has no-one picked up that he's talking about the cap's thinking they're transistors... thank god you posted it. Saved me a long whinded write up on coupling caps and why they are there.
@@68transistor I was going to mention that when I typed it on the phone... but on the surface you don't know if they are coupling or decoupling. Typically your right though, high frequency oscillation dampers for DC lines feeding the input rails and stabilising output lines for load regulation. Coupling would be passing data through the caps whilst separating DC supplies within the IC. But lets be honest, non of us know exactly the purpose for each of them on the top right?
I bought Windows Pro using THL24 code, upgraded the M.2 SSD and reinstalled Windows. The upgrade to Pro failed and it rejected the new registration code.
You obviously have very little PC knowledge, You put way too much, You only need a tiny bit like as little as you can possibly get on it, You should apply your conformal coating with A Q tip or brush, It needs to be Acrylic conformant, And needs to be 3 Coats, Also you need to put heat resistant tape or electrical tape over the top of that, And On the PCB around the die you should make a gasket out of a .5 mm silicone thermal pad, Also you can prep a copper Heat sink without using nickel plating by rubbing some extra liquid metal into the heat sink for a long period of time before you put your actual application on
Okay, so I got an idea... how about being happy with ya laptop as it is, put the lm aside for the day, year, or next decade! :D ... okay, I know that's not as fun as customizing so have at it... it's ur laptop after all! Serious, interesting video as usual thanks WGU!! 👍👍👍
update DO NOT WATCH THIS THE GUY US TOTAL IDIOT!!! watch Gamers Nexus th-cam.com/video/cQaqUyKVIEE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GamersNexus they understand and explaint what is going on and how metals react!!!
I cant watch it. You just spoil out liquid metal on your hardware without even unplugging battery. What a shame to uploading this wichout even watching one tutrial about "how to apply liquid metal on laptop".
Western Gents United well me too thats why I said you do it .. its actually pretty easy 1step. Get out of your house :) 2step. Find a Dell store and go there. 3step. Tell them what you going to do and ask for a Dell XPS 15 i9 top spec "FREE SAMPLE". 4step. SHOW THEM YOUR FUCKING FAN BASE AND WHAT THEY WANT :D FANS: WE WANT TO SEE DELL XPS 15 i9 TOP SPEC GETTING MASMERIZED BY WGUnited !!!
Do what he said, and also undervolt with Throttlestop and MSI afterburner. Check out the dell subreddit on how to do this as it is common practice over there.
I'm not saying about fans full speed but they work constantly in Photoshop because of GPU work and there is no way to make this laptop completely or almost silent even after repasting and undervolting (which I've made yesterday), temperature 60+ so fans are on. So I think xps 15 is not a working machine for graphic designer or video editor, not enough space for easy cooling
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YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG!
it's not "aluminium": it's normal for liquid metal to enter copper and add a "silver" color;
this just an aesthetical problem but it is permanent because it will penetrate very deep (trust me i already tried to sand it away on a copper waterblock).
if it was aluminium you would have a huge hole not a decoloration, trust me!
I thought that too. I only had it it on for an hour it would not eat it that quick. I guess it might be possible but I scratch again and it does not look copper
Western Gents United This is correct. Gallium completely disintegrates the desirable physical properties of aluminium and makes it extremely brittle to the point you can literally snap it with your fingers. I am now trying to find the results of saturated gallium absorbtion in copper heatsink and whether the copper will eventually disintegrate like aluminum over a longer timeframe or if the copper maintains it's strength and perhaps enough thermal conductivity.
It could be a copper alloy.
If it was aluminium and u scratched it u would remove the aluminum oxide coating and cause the aluminium to react faster with the gallium, the reaction creates a gallium amalgam and destroys the aluminium in the process (similar to aluminium and mercury), this reaction is slow and exothermic, generating more heat and speeding up as it progresses.
A thin copper coating could probably protect aluminium reasonably well if it was thick enough but I wouldn't take that gamble and if I had my heart set on applying liquid metal thermal paste I wouldn't scratch my cooler at all, I'm not sure what happens if the gallium turns the copper into GaCu2, maybe it would harm the aluminium.
The best place to find this information is chemistry texts.
I found that gallium actually plates to copper, so your heatsink needs to be nickel plated as nickel won't react with the gallium. If it isn't nickel plated you will gradually turn your copper heatsink into GaCu2, and will constantly need to reapply the paste over time until the reaction finds no more copper to consume. My conclusion, liquid metal (gallium containing) should only be used with nickel coated copper heat sinks if your keeping your device for more than a year or two.
@@raminazizi Copper wont break like aluminium, and as far as I know, the thermal performance remains largely unchanged. But galium will react with copper and 'dry' out, so you will have to repaste your dye after about a year. Best solution is to use LM with nickel plated copper, as nickel is extremly corosion resistant.
The "aluminum" you are seeing on your laptop cold plate is from liquid metal ionizing with the copper plate, creating a silver stain. Thats 100% normal for liquid metal and copper and does not create problems whatsoever. No mid-high end gaming laptop has had a copper coated aluminum heatsink. They are solid copper all the way through. Look up a video by Gamers Nexus on liquid metal. He demonstrates the different effects liquid metal has on copper, aluminum and nickle plated copper.
Weeee
Wish it was nickel-plated...
Here is my question: Why don't these companies use proper thermal paste to begin with, given what they charge?
That's a good question. I think they use what lasts the longest and its more the application than the paste in my experience
The trouble with the paste they use is that it's already garbage right out of the box, it's dry as camel turds, produces cracks and micro-gaps all over the place. If they just used something like Kryonaut they'd be good for the expected life of the machine, and not get shit as balls thermals. That goes for pretty much every-fucking-one, every CPU heatsink, every GPU heatsink, at this point, every Intel CPU IHS, all garbage cheap ass TIM.
Aidanjt - would you suggest applying paste out of the box? .. do you know of a good step by step instruction process for a noob? (wanna repaste xps 9570)
Excuse is: the TIM used is for super long duration / the lifecycle of the device. Proven bullshit, but people bend over for their brands and ignore all proof against manufacturers. The so called special TIM is the most basic pidgeon poop scraped from the floor and they probably pay the same price for one bucked of that pidgeon poop as we do for 1g kryonaut.
I like how most of these people who get down to the motherboard and do stuff barely know electronics
Those are not Transistors on top the GPU. They're Capacitors.
Lmao
Very true
hahahha
At least they put some kind of guide..
The idiot said he did this on his xiaomi but wouldnt do it on his dell or somethig. After looking at that motherboard and seing the gpu and cpu chips have underfiller, I would definitly pick xiaomi.
First you started out with great temps with liquid metal, then you got bad temps after a short while. Here is an hypothesis.
You used to much conformal coating, and thereby increasing the distance from the die to the COPPER interface because of the bulges you have created. At first the liquid metal was in a low viscosity state which is enough to make atleast some contact between die and interface material. After a few cycles the liquid metal wil become a high viscos liquid and lose volume do to airflow and reaction with the copper, and the liquid metal might even dry out if enough air is let at it. The effect of this would be that the liquid metal will seperate from the die and interface either completely or partially resulting in very high temps indeed.
You’re right there
@@TallyHoTech My pleasure, entertaining video, cheers
@@bluefox4902 I tried to put it but the temps still goes high
It is copper, EVERY laptop has copper interface with the die. Liquid metal will react with copper, but only slightly which will result in discoloration and maybe some pitting over time, but it's nothing to worry about, the performance will stay the same during the laptops lifespan.
You aren't supposed to try and sqeeze it out on the die.. put a tiny drop in a small plastic container.. then you can scoop and move it easily..
It's about the quality of the "copper" heatsink. if it's high quality pure copper, it should only leave a very thin layer of stint and won't affact performance at all. But some companies cheap out on heatsink and use copper alloy, the liquid metal is reacting with whateven else in it. But I never seen LM really eat through copper heatsink, even it's copper alloy, it should be fine if you just leave it there and don't try to clear it.
Wooo
Thanx for the video mate.
I was thinking to apply Liquid Metal..
Wooof
dude, the copper is fusing with the liquid metal to make a gallium alloy 'stain'. you also need to reapply after a month, then once a year to 15 months
Is it safe for long term use? Planning to apply thermal grizzly conductonaut on the gpu and cpu of my ROG Strix G laptop..
@@chini2W0 yes. It is, just be sure to spray conformal coating on surrounding parts to minimize any chances of a short
@@daylightriot5671 can i use nail polish as substitute? Apply 3-4 coats with 10 min interval
@@chini2W0 yup. nail polish works. 2-3 coats would be fine though. Too much nail polish or conformal coating can insulate parts and cause problems. Most people seem to have good success with 3 coats.
Hope this helps
@@daylightriot5671 will give it a try
Heatsink/aluminium is used to disperse heat into the air, copper is used to transfer/conduct heat from one material to another. That said, aluminium is also a great heat conducter and is used in some waterblok systems, but in laptops it will always be copper.
Yeh, liquid metal is risky. I had a mobo short out before. It's a shame they cheated out with an aluminium heat sink. Nice vid mate !
I hope it wasnt an expensive mobo mate :)
i know bob did a video showing IC graphite isnt as good as LM, but its better than most pastes ive seen and thanks to it being a sheet, i know it wont goop around and be an issue.
For repaste, I will stick with thermal paste on my Razer Blade 15 Advanced.
I ordered my XPS 15 32Gb i9 laptop. Dell had a FRENZY FRIDAY deal where they had a 15% discount for the day. I opened the chat window with a Dell representative to ask a question.. And after answering a my question, they offered me an extra 1% on top of the 15%. So 16% off the Dell price. So stoked.....:)
Yes yes yes... Wooo
C'mon guys, everything is risky if you don't know what to do -- which is exactly the case in this video...
Heheh
Put a copper shim between the cpu and gpu so the liquid Metal will be on the die and copper shim then regular paste between the shim and heat sink.
so what should we do with this specific xiomi
should we use liquid metal or not if it eats the metal
Can We replace Liquid metal to THERMAL PASTE
hello sir, I’m wondering is it a must to have conformal coating around cpu/gpu if I’m applying liquid metal to a laptop?? (I bought kapton tape already not sure if that’s enough)
i7 8550 cpu running at 2.14ghz all core turbo when it's supposed to be able to run at 3.7ghz. And you wonder why the temps were so low?
I thought the same man, what was that? i dont understand, so the liquid metal doesn't workd?
High risk, High reward. Thanks for sharing!
Cheers mate. Holiday over back the grind stone :{
this is timely...just got my x9 ..was thinking about LM repasting
No copper absorbs the liquid metal and makes it look silver, It can only absorb so much I have done many laptops with liquid metal, Your heat think is probably fine
Who hurt you?
"kapton tape"
Pls try it in the dell g7 7790
The 17inch
You can use clear nail polish instead of conformal coating
Depends which one and what's is the nail polish
Nice temporary gains! If only laptop manufacturers used this by default 🤔
With all the risks involved? To secure LM in place and prevent spillage, to use extremely expensive metal coating (tungsten or tantalum) in order to prevent corrosion? To offer warranty for LM spillage?
And in the end, what if you take your laptop out and the LM freezes solid? I'm not sure what's the expansion quotient for LM but it could seriously damage the device innards.
By the way, Jarrod, I still can't wait for your Razer Blade 15 review :-)
If the manufacturer was doing it and planning for it they'd be using correct materials and application, no risk to you (yeah of course extra cost if they have to go through all that)? You just get a working product. Obviously not for everyone 😛 and cheers, going to start working on it in a few days, got a bunch of other stuff to work through first!
You would think they could make a better system out. They spend so much on R & D of the cooling and Bazza on the assembly line overzealously applying thermal paste throws that out the window
Sure, we normal people can pimp out our laptops with LM for $20 or so but the manufacturing standards will never allow LM in laptops. Cheers, Jarrod, I love your work. :-)
Saw the title and thought you had finally made a video on repasting your Dell XPS 9570. Hopefully soon...?
I thick it may just happen
Western Gents United - Might be an idea NOT to use Liquid Metal! 🙃😋
what's brand conformal coating
instead of conformal coating could electric tape or nail varnish work
:)
I used clear nail varnish and then once it was dry I used Kapton tape. It's thermally stable tape that can withstand the temperatures a cpu and GPU run at.
nail varnish isn't conductive after drying?
Can i just add thermal pads?
a little detail, your cpu are at 100% but at2.16 GHz, i dont know much about the 8th gen, but looks like they are severely TDP throttled.
nvm '-'
Do not scratch the hell out of the mating surface of your heatsink. Lol. The gallium stains copper. It didnt eat it.
It says your CPU is only pushing 2.5ghz that's terrible mate!!!!! I am pushing 4.2ghz on a Dell G3 i7 9750!!! Why is yours so low and why didn't you undervolt it!?
Lol hilarious! The liquid metal has amalgamated with the copper and dried up. Just reapply it and get better results than the last time. As for conformal coating I've never used it I just use clear nail polish and I don't have a problem never has and once I see tell spikes I know it's time to clean and reapply!
lol U got 52C at 2.1GHZ and you saying that is crazy while 100C at 3.12GHZ , BRO I don't get it what you are about :) , ofcourse at 3.12 GHZ U got extra wattage over 40 so it temps will rise much more compare to 15watts at 2.1GHZ. Anyway Nice test ! , I thought about liquid metal in xiaomi gaming laptop but it's too risky
Weeeeee
Once you apply normal thermal paste is it just a one time job that lasts the entire life of the machine without ever having to redo it? And are there any risks?
BrandyBoy normal thermal paste does not last forever, but will last a couple years. The way to know when you need to reapply is to just monitor thermals and when you’re running warmer than usual, open up your machine and check it out. If it’s gotten dry and flakey, reapply after cleaning off the old stuff.
If you get the one I recommend in the description it will last the life of the laptop in my experience. I have CPUs with 8 years same thermal paste and it the same as when I done it
Jacob Thomas is still right, if temps start going up its bad, thats how you know. but to WGUs point it'll typically last as long as the laptop
Here is what happens to aluminium when exposed to Gallium, which is the main component in liquid metal. The reaction is fast, and in no way would you be able to use your laptop after if your interface was made out of aluminium.
th-cam.com/video/IgXNwLoS-Hw/w-d-xo.html
Heatsink/aluminium is used to disperse heat into the air, copper is used to transfer/conduct heat from one material to another. That said, aluminium is also a great heat conducter and is used in some waterblok systems, but in laptops it will always be copper. Liquid metal will react with copper, but only slightly which will result in discoloration and maybe some pitting over time, but it's nothing to worry about, the performance will stay the same during the laptops lifespan
yer, thanks man
@@TallyHoTech Your welcome :)
also wtf gallium turns copper silver over time that isn't aluminum
what is the size of the screws used to hold the heatpipes in place, i can't find that information anywhere. thanks.
On the Xiaomi? note sure you lost some I can check
@@TallyHoTech yeah, I couldn't find a screwdriver that fits. Thanks.
@Sad below rightfully corrected me. Linus did that test against thermal paste and not liquid metal. My bad
I cant recall all the details but I recall seeing Linus review or talk about a graphene pad that was still in development but seemed to have similar, if not better thermal results and none of the drawbacks of liquid metal. Hope that makes it way to shelves shortly
What are you talking about? His graphene pad barely managed to compete with thermal paste. In no way can it compete with LM.
Yeah you are right. My bad. I had to go back and watch. I thought they tested it against liquid metal but was IC Diamond. Just talked about ease of application vs Liquid Metal. Will update my comment. Thanks
Thanks for sharing
It's good if you're repeatedly taking apart your device. Otherwise not so much.
IDK if i can use liquid metal on my r4 17 inch alienware -_- specially i travel alot with my laptop
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@92 clb what laptop? I'm tempted to try it with my 7700hq in a acer predator 300
This video is the definition of "Misleading"
Wait what?! the heatsink must be copper
Just stained you think?
I think what you’re seeing is liquid metal’s tendency to stain copper. It doesn’t look like it’s eaten through it as though it were aluminum, which looks like massive corrosion rather than just staining.
I thought it was a stain at first but its not
and what program did u use for the small graphs
intel gadget
I learned a lot from this video! Thanks!
Welcome mate
I'm studying electronic engineering I use circuit design softwares, I do programing, AutoCAD, fusion 360, I also like to take pictures so I use Lightroom and play some games (pubg, dirty bomb, Rainbow six siege) occasionally maybe 3 or 4 times a week but not for long periods maybe 2 o 3 hours and I'm thinking about to get the 9575 or the 9570 from one side the 9575 is not that bad for casual gaming and is very good for content creation and it will be nice to operate all the programs I use on tablet mode I also watch a ton of movies and videos 🤔 so the 9575 looks better for me but I'm worry about gaming and also the ports and battery life because I spend a lot of time on the go 🤔 and maybe I can sacrafice the 2 in 1 for better performance, more battery like and better keyboard, more ports and also cheaper price but I'm also worry about thermals on the 9570 I'm not a everyday heavy user but at least 2 or 3 times a week I do some heavy stuff 🤔 help me please thanks I'm a big fan from Dominican Republicpublic
Hello champ. Hard decision right. I would go the XPS 15 unless you like 2 in 1's or will use the pen. Its just has better battery, I like the display better , keyboard ect
Western Gents United I won't use the pen but I would definitely use the tablet mode and the touch screen (i will go for the 1080p on each obe a) lot for editing and watching videos but the lack of ports and battery life worry me but also the thermal issues on the 9570 worry me to
There you go, if that the case go the 9575. Let me know which way you go.
Western Gents United but I considerating the 9570 the thing is it have a ton of problems: keyboard, display, thermals
There's two of them wtfff,🤣😂I'm sorry at first I thought u had editing problem
Hehe
What is the condition of your laptop after using liquid metal after 1 year?
Is it safe?
All good, safe if you know what your doing
@@TallyHoTech 👍👍👍 thx for your info
That Mi laptop looks like a complete rip off of MacBook from design point of view.
so the difference between LM and TP is 2c?
Yes but the LM had fans much lower
on 3rd min 3:00 he says it was a big mistake ... but i got the wrong one he says or right one? word that he says i figured "right one" but it makes no sense
its important for me as im going to do same on 4k laptop and i need to know the reason why did he screwed up
can anyone help with my English please
i cant figure if its stupid accent or he says wrong like right.....
and if he says it was wrong did anyone figured what kind was that so i wont screw up same way?
thanks in advance eng isnt my first language but in stupid russian youtube no one does same as we all broke and it will come to us in next century.....
I think it's too risky for normal users.
True, just use thermal paste
or maybe computer manufacturers learn how to deal with the temperature :)
Coupling capacitor not transistor :-/
yer that one
Was scrolling and scrolling, thinking... has no-one picked up that he's talking about the cap's thinking they're transistors... thank god you posted it. Saved me a long whinded write up on coupling caps and why they are there.
@@RamjetX yeah! by the way they are DEcoupling capacitor not coupling, i made a little mistake :-p
@@68transistor I was going to mention that when I typed it on the phone... but on the surface you don't know if they are coupling or decoupling. Typically your right though, high frequency oscillation dampers for DC lines feeding the input rails and stabilising output lines for load regulation. Coupling would be passing data through the caps whilst separating DC supplies within the IC. But lets be honest, non of us know exactly the purpose for each of them on the top right?
@@RamjetX absolutely true! Good year!
works on Asus ROG G75VS, with i7 Processor and 1070 graphic?
Why not
@@TallyHoTech can i use this PAD ? EC360® SILVER 12W/mK (50 x 50 x 1,0 mm)
with that windows key, can i still use it if I do a windows reinstall?
on the same machine, yes
I bought Windows Pro using THL24 code, upgraded the M.2 SSD and reinstalled Windows.
The upgrade to Pro failed and it rejected the new registration code.
is the cpu overclockable
not overclocking as such, like you cant overclock the frequency beyond its spec but you can pump more Watts and keep the boost clocks high
microsoft surface 2 ?
matebook x pro?
$7000 macbook pro?
Say what champ?
after seeing this im just going for normal repaste
Thermal paste is the best
I put black tape around the cpu then I put liquid metal
did you leave the black tape on after you put the liquid metal and reassembled?
Yes
@@Steve-ds5kb did you ever open your laptop up again to see if the tape melted? Also what are your temps before and after
Nop but is working just fine
@@Steve-ds5kb what are you temps before and after repaste?
You obviously have very little PC knowledge, You put way too much, You only need a tiny bit like as little as you can possibly get on it, You should apply your conformal coating with A Q tip or brush, It needs to be Acrylic conformant, And needs to be 3 Coats, Also you need to put heat resistant tape or electrical tape over the top of that, And On the PCB around the die you should make a gasket out of a .5 mm silicone thermal pad, Also you can prep a copper Heat sink without using nickel plating by rubbing some extra liquid metal into the heat sink for a long period of time before you put your actual application on
bad fck laptop up,good information video
Okay, so I got an idea... how about being happy with ya laptop as it is, put the lm aside for the day, year, or next decade! :D ... okay, I know that's not as fun as customizing so have at it... it's ur laptop after all! Serious, interesting video as usual thanks WGU!! 👍👍👍
Thats wise advice and usually I do but people want repasting and undervolting videos and I was curious myself
i used ic graphite, way easier, way simpler. nothing going to goop around to bad places and short things
noice
100% yeah...AT 2.1ghz LOL
15C lower with regular paste? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.. no fkin way... something would have to be WAY off... and those are capacitors buddy.
IT MUST BE COPPER!!!! IT CAN NOT BE ALUMINIUM!!!!
update DO NOT WATCH THIS THE GUY US TOTAL IDIOT!!! watch Gamers Nexus th-cam.com/video/cQaqUyKVIEE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GamersNexus they understand and explaint what is going on and how metals react!!!
Yeah sure. Normal thermal paste is good to go at 95c or even 100. Nobody will buy that liquid metal if their pc is good with thermal paste
I cant watch it. You just spoil out liquid metal on your hardware without even unplugging battery. What a shame to uploading this wichout even watching one tutrial about "how to apply liquid metal on laptop".
I'm a maverick.
Is it worth? Is there a risk?
Up to you
20 C lower, 30% faster. But is it worth it?
Duhh?
I think the only thing LM good for is desktop cpu cooling.
I agree
Do it on a XPS 15 i9 :)
I'm scared.
Western Gents United well me too thats why I said you do it .. its actually pretty easy
1step. Get out of your house :)
2step. Find a Dell store and go there.
3step. Tell them what you going to do and ask for a Dell XPS 15 i9 top spec "FREE SAMPLE".
4step. SHOW THEM YOUR FUCKING FAN BASE AND WHAT THEY WANT :D
FANS: WE WANT TO SEE DELL XPS 15 i9 TOP SPEC GETTING MASMERIZED BY WGUnited !!!
Hehe 🙌
Transistors... [facepalm]
Irony: “no no no I nearly killed my computer!!!“
“Whooo!”
WHAT???
Hehe, yep I wooed because I didn't kill it in the end
I'm done with this 9560.. Fans always on while drawing in Photoshop, not possible to stay with this noise for a while day
*whole
Repaste it and if you haven't already update the bios
Do what he said, and also undervolt with Throttlestop and MSI afterburner. Check out the dell subreddit on how to do this as it is common practice over there.
Sell it. You won’t get more than $500 soon with the top of the line model. It’s already at around $1000.
I'm not saying about fans full speed but they work constantly in Photoshop because of GPU work and there is no way to make this laptop completely or almost silent even after repasting and undervolting (which I've made yesterday), temperature 60+ so fans are on. So I think xps 15 is not a working machine for graphic designer or video editor, not enough space for easy cooling
Mi laptop?? 😦
Weeeee