Fable II had a spell that let you summon the soul of the last enemy/ies you killed to aid you in battle, and they seemed to move like NPCs. Could it be something like that?
I'm not going to know where to begin when I can finally dig into this game. After the troubled development of Dark Souls II and Dark Souls III, it's great to see so many things in Elden Ring that they had planned to do that didn't make it into those games. Elden Ring seems like it's truly the game From has been trying, but not quite managing, to make for years.
Yup..i have the same feeling..like Elden Ring is the game they wanted to make since Kings Field...DS1 had rushed development so many things cut out..DS2 had troubled development as well.. idk for DS3.. but it seems like every time something was in the way to make perfect Fromsoft game...in each they learned a little bit... and hopefully everything comes together in Elden Ring...xD Cant wait..but wait will not be too bad...i have Dragons Dogma to finish..and one more playthrough of DS3 till February... i think those two games are perfect to play in preparation for Elden Ring :D
Yeah, it definitely looks like they've taken all their best gameplay concepts and finally put them into practice the way they wanted to. I already had very high expectations for the game considering it's Fromsoft, but after seeing the gameplay the game is set to exceed my hopes and expectations. Can't wait to lose myself in it.
it feels like the culmination of all their games and ideas so far, bringing the best of each game while adding a new open world on top of it. Sounds like my dream game to be honest
Something that seems rather interesting to me about Elden Ring is that unlike Soulsborne we're not arriving in this Empire or Kingdom after it's already gone to shit, we're arriving right in the middle of it going to shit. Which imo makes the setting a lot more interesting.
This is what I've been longing for in a souls game, along with hub areas that actually feel populated with NPCs, both interactable and not, and not just a central area that will later serve as easy access to various services provided by the folks you meet along the way.
True that man. I tend to get really really invested in the lore of video games and one of the things that intrigues me the most is the setting of a once great kingdom/nation that has fallen into ruin and is now a shell of its former glory(Dark Souls and Hollow Knight both immediately come to mind but there are probably other examples too). They’re as vast as they are awe-inspiring, and yet, they’re far past their prime lore-wise. It’s as if the player’s entire journey merely takes place in the epilogue of the kingdom’s story and you just can’t help but wonder how incredible this place used to look before everything went down. Elden Ring seems like it’s taking place the slightest bit before the story’s epilogue, which I think is going to make it very unique among these sorts of games
@@kego8159 Hol fck that's dumb, I've only played through the game 1.5 times, but I thought that was exclusively for when you don't want to fall off of somewhere and have to pay close attention to where you're stepping lol.
@@Chronuz imagine having to crouch in real life as well to reduce your profile and make you harder to detect just like in every game...........wait............
@@cayfire129 Nah... rigging and skinning would be a pain... but the hands can be if he's got more than a few animations just given a rig item that you move to open/close hands automaticly, and in varying styles (all at once sudden forced outstretched fingers, or that gradual uncurling of fingers like when he removed the cloak), so I imagine for him they took the extra day or two or so polishing his rig so the animators could save time later on and increase the quality. Even if hand animated, unless he is used a lot more than in this one fight it still woudn't even be that bad to animate individual fingers in most animation software, annoying yes, but we'de be talking an extra week or two for one artists to go over all likely animations and polish off the fingers after the fact tops, and most likely less than a day or two even honestly. Just pray there's no issues that require changes to its rigging/animations/mesh/skeleton making you redo it all. That's the biggest reason to have the rig set up right the first time since unless its a simple short animation sequence or so for him, you'll save time in the long run on any redos or stuff and sadly those always come up in development. Right now doing those on dragons myself... damn wings and their membranes not all being finely enough weighted between the different bones...
Weighting all those hands must have been a nightmare, but animating them not so much. I assume they just animated the model first and then went throught the little hands adding little movements. Quite time consuming, but not particularly difficult.
I like how Godrick gets visibly excited when he grabs you. This is probably From's most human "monstrosity" boss, and he oozes personality. For as human as the arachnid ladies looked, they were stoic and silent, largely defined by their relationships. Insanity in a FromSoftware title is often associated with muteness or growling, and it's nice to see a rare willful madman who's testing his unearthly powers on you. Man, if Artorias could still talk...
Think this is part of why Micolash is so beloved; he's not just another nutjob; he's a very vocal nutjob hamming it up about how much he loves the position he's in. We've all been there, having the time of our lives just for someone to come and try to ruin the fun.
The way Godrick moves when he rolls around and stuff is insane. If he's going to be an early game boss I can't imagine what the Gael equivalent is going to fight like.
It's always fascinated me that FromSoft, a studio responsible for one of the most influential and well received game series, always seems to have to make each game with hope, dreams, and lots of duct tape
Influential? In the Skyrim modding community maybe. There are little to no games who are souls like or try to imitate it. What influence are you talking about, lol.
That was a fun thought I had as well. Very much reminded me of Elder Scrolls where you could be walking one direction back and forth and only just find a hidden cave off to the side. Here's to hoping Elden Ring has the exploration and discovery of BotW and Elder Scrolls, with the added revamped Soulsborne mechanics
@@DarknessIsTheTruth berserk, there are ages on the manga. The golden age or classical, more akin to our world, the eclipse, tecnically the dark souls age, and fantasia, the mix between the real world and the fantastical world like a collective of humanity dreams and fears.
now that the game is out i really am interested to learn how they handled the NPC/map dilemmas you mentioned. engine overhaul? jankfest? the masses must know.
The stealth and verticality are very Sekiro, the setting is very Dark Souls, and the ideas of Arcane, bloodlines, and lesser gods feels very Bloodborne. I'm thinking we might have the perfect game on our hands
@@yumemirai4419 only like the old lore and the setting of the world is written by GRRM though isnt it ? and the team just made story of Elden Ring out of it
I think it goes without saying that there are many mechanical similarities between Elden Ring and past Fromsoft titles. I personally have no issues with this game being a successor to Dark Souls (spiritual or otherwise), and I think applying an improved version of that formula to an open world setting will yield some great results.
Totally agree. Imagine, if they would have gone in a whole new direction with this game. This feels like an improvement to the "mechanical formula" of the Souls Games and I am looking forward to it.
Something else I’ve noticed, that dragon head spell is actually a Miracle rather than a Pyromancy. The co-operator is holding a catalyst that resembles a faint gold glow, this same catalyst can be seen being used by the monk with a wheel around their neck towards the end of the footage.
Another thing to note here, is that spell is very similar (if not identical) to the one Godrick uses. So maybe you can unlock boss spells/weapons like in dark souls 3?
The prophet character also has that weird wheel on the neck gimmick, and they seem to be the class that's replacing clerics so you might be spot on here
At first, I thought that Godrick might be a tutorial boss, but seeing his complexity makes me think he's midgame like the Dancer. But I also wouldn't be surprised if, like the dancer, the player couldn't try to beat him early game in order to trigger some sort of change in the world or get into an interesting area.
I think with Elden Ring you're supposed to have a lot of choice so I hope we have lots of choice of when to fight bosses. Godrick, though hopefully a difficult fight, looks like we can get to him fairly early game.
2:28 I imagine Arcane is a rebranding / overhaul of Luck, they have 10 Arcane and 110 item discovery which is the same you would have in DS3, 100 base + 10 points of luck = 110 Item discovery. Perhaps Arcane is the stat (also) used for spirit summoning.
Mind, meanwhile, may be a similar rebranding / overhaul of Attunement. It's position directly below Vigor leads me to believe that if Vigor affects HP, Mind would affect FP.
@@LittleMountain90 Yep, they are back to using the language of Demon's Souls for spells, "memory slots", so it would make sense to change the stat from "attunement" to something that more intuitively describes what it does, "Mind."
Coming back almost a year later, and after having beaten the game, it's interesting to see how many of your predictions were spot on. I'm still waiting for those first-person mods and the cutscene freecams, but I'm patient enough with all the content that's being generated as it is. It's such a huge game after all!
5:42 What I want: To level up from any checkpoint ala Dark Souls 1. What Miyazaki wants: Level up waifus. Hopefully Elden Ring will present the compromise of a Level up waifu always present at the checkpoints, then? And we can all be happy?
"so that's awful. Can't wait to freecam that cutscene." Never change Zullie you're an absolute gift and your insights into the mechanics of the series breathe so much depth into even the smallest pieces of content.
I think it's the transition from the bosses first form to the 2nd, alot of from bosses have absurdly elaborate transformations that would take alot of attention to fully appreciate, hence the excitement for the freecam during said scene.
@@theguitarhero333 Fromsoft has a nack for elaborate and showy boss cutscenes that often employ clever techniques to function in engine. Zullie has covered a number of them from each game but the best example that come to mind would be the ds1 O&s fight where instead of Super Ornstien actually growing they made a copy of the boss room and shrink it to make him look bigger. In the case of this transforming boss it'll be interesting to see if the two phases will just be different boss models or if From will use the trick of having the dragon arm as a separate paired npc that is either always there but hidden (like the Bloodborne frenzy enemy Zullie has a video on) or otherwise hidden away somewhere waiting to be teleported in. (another common trick From uses for cutscene assets) The cutscene itself will probably be quite over the top considering the boss is already fairly heavy on the body horror with all the extra limbs and fingers. Likely tearing off his own arm to attach the wyvern head since the statue is seen missing it's head in phase two.
Feels like they disabled a lot of the lesser hostile AI for certain parts of the demo. A number of NPCs and groups seen or walked past may well be more territorial in the final product.
About Godrick, it is entirely possible that his bone count is not as high as it seems. While every arm does need at least two bones, hand movements for the superfluous hands don't seem very complex so they could definitely just be cycling between two shape keys. I don't know if their engine supports shape keys, though.
Seems to me they are using the extract same engine they’ve been using for a while now. Which is not a problem but I think we all seen the limit’s to it
@@itsprod.472 yes, it's very obvious that they're not only using the same engine but even a good bit of the same codebase. I don't know if any animations in previous games use shape keys though. Btw I just realized they could also use instancing to only really have one back-arm be traditionally animated.
It'd be a lot more than just two or so, since when the cloak comes off you see them gradually opening up one finger at a time slightly out of sync, so that'd be at least on per finger... and likely for each hand or in groups of the hands... but that all relies on them having made the initial mesh with all those fingers in different states anyway, likely done via bones and skinning so they would have a version of the model with the extra bones anyway. And the reality is... at least in all engines I've used, morph targets/mesh weighting/shape keys, etc... are for simple things like this, much more expensive than just adding extra bones are. If you have facial animations where you'd need like sixty bones to replicate that, and all of these facial morphs affect that same head mesh bit, then it's worth it arguably, but using a morph for a finger that only saves maybe three or so bones? Not worth it performance wise I'd say. And it'd also limit your abliity to reference the bones in engine if you want to stick particles on the fingers or hands or rings or other items. The only reason I can think of them doing that would be if they have a hard limit on the number of bones they can support for their skeletal meshes... And while I'm certain they do, normally it'd be much higher than what I'd expect to see on him even with every finger getting its own bone, and numerous bones on his cloak and other stuff to help with all that smooth animation. So my money is on it just being lots of normal bones in this case... If it was like dozens of hands randomly opening and closing, then sure, make them instanced meshes maybe using a blend mesh or bones itself... but these looked more tightly mixed into the main mesh and acted more in line with his animations and actions so that's not really an option here.
@@terricon4 There could be a quiet model swap between cutscene and battle to shift from an intricate bone-heavy model to one that isn't so detailed. That would allow for the cutscene to do things the boss can't do in battle but which wouldn't make sense in battle anyway. Just my 2 cents. We'll have to wait until the game is released to get into details like this.
@@terricon4 yeah, you're most probably right. As stated in the og comment, I was just putting on the table the possibility of it not being bones. As much as shape keys and other fancy stuff can be fun to work with, I doubt From would rework how they usually rig and animate characters for a single boss, especially if it meant not having complete bone control and adjusting the overall animation pipeline
He should be safe from that. Alexander seems more like a comic relief character and the "good guy turns out to be bad" trope is usually used for the more serious ones, if anything he's probably going to die during a questline.
From’s decision to call them dragons and not wyverns specifically probably comes from George R. R. Martins giving his dragons four limbs instead of six because he wanted them to follow real world biology. Wyverns exist in the world of ice and fire, but are different creatures entirely. Most terrible of all are the wyverns, those tyrants of the southern skies, with their great leathery wings, cruel beaks, and insatiable hunger. Close kin to dragons, wyverns cannot breathe fire, but they exceed their cousins in ferocity and are a match for them in all other respects save size. -The World of Ice and Fire
I think you're on the mark with that assumption, knowing that George wrote the history of this world I'd definitely believe he'd make sure to use the word Dragons rather than Wyverns.
Did anyone else notice the summoned ally uses the dragon hand from goderick in the fight against the knight? Also if you look at the bottom right of the inventory there are "Memory slots"? I think that those might be the NPC summons and the symbol on the players hand is likely a shared pictogram with the equipped item.
I appreciate the technical, objective, genuine approach in this video Zullie. Not overhyping, no absurd speculation, just concise, objective, well informed thoughts and opinions. You even tempered my expectations, if only slightly, which is a good thing! Great video, thanks for this one!
@toptier bryan if you don't care why did you reply? But he's right, as great as I'm expecting it to be, it's better to not totally overblow the expectations
also, about the NPC instanciation on the flight : it is specified that summonable spirits are equipped at a bonfire, so there might be some trick going on with that, maybe they have an NPCs pool with all of them disabled (hidden basically), and once you use your item or whatever to summon spirits it draws the chosen ones from the pool, activate them, and disable them once they die so they can return to the pool of summonable NPCs. That's how game devs handle complex autonaumous bullets in shooter games for example.
That would be a LOT of NPCs though depending on how many different spirit summons are available. Also I think the clip showed multiple of the same character being summoned And I mean, at this point its long overdue that the game can dynamically load in new NPCs right? I'm hopeful at least xD
Equipping summons seems separate from spell slots, too, though I'm not sure how From went from the disappointing fireball summon in DaS3 to the spirits in Elden Ring.
When they pulled out a torch when they went into a dungeon it really reminded me of the pre release footage of ds2 with its light system. I'm really excited for this game its looking to be a very good culmination of all FS has been working towards
The combat from the trailer itself really made me excited. Feels like I’m about to experience a FromSoft game for the first time all over again. Stealth being one of my favorite forms of combat, also looking like a more viable method since its not as much in Dark Souls makes me more excited.
9:22 when he's laughing as he roasts you, how his mouth was opened an animated, I loved that moment of his character with that facial expression mixing with the audio and his action. Made it clear that they put a lot of work into him and his model, both as a boss, and as a character.
Dragon and horse dude, quality on the dragon looked a little meh from what I saw... the horse guy looked a bit more interesting, though both are still hard to say given how it was clipped up and that uncertainty since its open world, what if I run over to a ledge and plink them with a bow? How do they respond? I got my concerns still on them.
Ohh Alexander. One of the few true friends i've made so far. I felt a bit bad during the festival of Radahn when he talks so lowly of himself and then was heftily shocked when he said "let me just throw some warrior dead bodies in me and i'll be fine." That was not a thing I was expecting.
really neat things you pointed out! i like this video alot and cant wait to see the stuff you make on it in the future! wow that hitbox was ridiculous on the spear enemies. I speculate the pots are actually just piloted by a person inside it.
The three most interesting things to me are how enemy aggression works, the retaliation attack that was shown off in combat, and the potential for movement in the level geometry.
@@zopler5537 Yup it's actually a sphere in the sky, not part of the skybox. I'm guessing this is something to do with the switch from regular moon to blood moon that happens half way through.
Finally got the time to watch the vid - amazing job Zullie. The content is awesome and apparently never ending. So glad you decided to start posting more and more. I'm at the point where I look forward to any vid, just to see what hidden gem is to be found Kudos and keep up the great work
Something exciting I noticed about the scimitar guy - when he is wielding 2 scimitars he has 2 sheathes on his sides, whereas in the instance where he uses the wind skill, there is only one on the left. Also, when using the twinblade, he has one sheathed scimitar on the right. In dark souls, twin weapons always appear on your character's belt even when not two handed. These are clearly two separate scimitars, one in the right hand slot, one in the left. To me, this is unbleeding proof that powerstancing is back!!
Magic. One thing I liked about remaster of Demon Souls was fancy and juicy magic animations. And it seems like Elden Ring has magic looking as juicy as other devs did in DeS Remake
@@Whodjathink I will admit, I _have_ always enjoyed finding ways to make magic work effectively in pvp in From's titles, due in no small part to the playstyles that has led me to, which I have thoroughly enjoyed. I can also see, at least in Dark Souls 3, that they at least seemed to acknowledge that there needed to be spells specifically designed to be used in pvp such as the Farron darts and lightning arrow spells. However, trying to fight primarily with magic in pvp in Soulsborne has almost always been a fool's errand. You can kind of pull it off with pyromancy in narrow situations using specific builds, but outside of the Dark Souls 3 dueling arena, pyromancy's effectiveness falls off hard, as does the effectiveness of healing spells. What's more, there's not a whole lot of good magic can accomplish in pve outside of 'blow it up.' Yes, there are rare, niche situations where something like fall control or hidden body/hush can be useful, but when was the last time anyone remembers using, or seeing someone use, Undead Rapport? It's just faster and easier to fireball the thing and move on. Even a lot of the damage spells in Dark Souls have serious problems. Again looking at pyromancy in Dark Souls 3, every pyromancy they introduced with the DLCs are just trap options. It's literally more damage per second to just spam your best direct fireball nuke, and Bursting Fireball (the fireball shotgun) is similarly useless, which is a tragedy because it's a cool spell. It's the kind of thing that _should_ be a great frontal cone AoE for when you get rushed by multiple enemies. . . but you're still better off hucking the biggest fireball you have and hoping some of the enemies get caught in the blast. I've been talking about pyromancy, but all forms of spellcasting in From's games have these issues. Don't even get me started about Bloodborne. I don't need every spell to be good, I understand there will be some trap options no matter what they do, because not everything can be equally useful, but surely, a majority of the available spells should have their moments to shine, moments where the player will feel like they've made the right choice by going with that spell over a more 'standard nuke' spell. Unusual spells in pve have to be more than just unusual, they have to be good, and if magic is ever to be viable as a primary fighting strategy, as opposed to a supplementary toolkit, my opponent must be forced to do more than just roll directly at me and through the effect, by the spell I cast. Not asking for an 'I-win' button, but I was one of the first people to come up with the iron flesh / sacred flame combo, and when people started getting wise to that, I switched it up with black flame. The Scott Jund put out a meta-dueling pyromancer build, that basically used fire surge to provoke someone into doing something stupid and charging into black flame, or to just slowly, aggravatingly, burn someone down if they were using an ultra. Sure, it's fun when that's an _option_ , but not when it's just about the only way to make pyro good in duels. The possibilities with things like a combination of ranged AoE effects like the arrow rain, and the ability to summon spirits, makes me cautiously optimistic, but I still need to be convinced. Just once, I'd like to not be _as handicapped as I am_ when I play pure spellcaster builds in pvp, and I'd like to actually have more cool and interesting options for spellcasting in pve.
@@stupidanon5941 I read this all and I completely agree. Certain spells like Fall Control end up being useless (and a waste of a slot) when rings can do the exact same thing. And I hate how it feels like you're fighting an uphill battle when it comes to spellcasting in a souls game. Bloodborne I give a slight pass because they were more about guns and hunting. Like if a "normal" person went up against monsters kind of thing, so at least thematically it works. But in the other souls games where they have enemies and bosses' spells be more effective than yours, then yeah it's a major problem. People will bring up how it'll be difficult to balance magic yet having low health/stamina and a much higher requirement to even wield spells doesn't seem to be "balanced" in their eyes. While I'm on the topic of requirements, it's outright ridiculous some of the requirements to use some of the spells/miracles/pyromancies and the amount of damage you actually get out of it. It's almost never worth the investment to ever use anything outside of a straight/greatsword half the time
@@stupidanon5941 i also read this all but i haven’t got the slightest technical knowledge to pitch in, so ill just keep on reading lol. For the record, i did run a pure pyro build in one play through and it could be infuriating at times, but when you managed to kill someone, let alone the host and his two buddies, oooohh boy!
Seems like you might have to hit them with a sleep arrow though, otherwise he could have just snuck up behind that guy in the camp and stealth deathblowed him
not sure because if you look at the stealth part of the video the moment they kill the guard hit by the sleeping arrow the music changes from stealth-like to action/exciting battle music so msybe they have a way to balance it
I really hope that's not the case, because it would mean you're more or less required to use Stealth. And I don't like Stealth. It did work well in Sekiro, but I'm wanting something more akin to a Bloodborne type game. One that takes Souls and adds new mechanics, a new setting, new lore, and new paces for combat.
Well in the old leak trailers, before the offical trailer, i saw some stealth backstab move, which maybe you can backstab enemies while crouching but it'll be the same backstab move as Dark Souls 3
Notice that Alexander's model doesn't quite fit this ground. This suggests to me that his encounter will be dynamic, appearing at different places on each playthrough rather than set locations
There seems to be a new type of magic, "blood magic" kinda thing. You can see that in one weapon art the player cuts their hand to make a massive attack, and before the boss fight they apply some unusual red buff onto the weapon that doesn't quite look like fire. Perhaps a type of skills that use HP instead of FP to cast?
One thought I had is maybe it's a hint at a more robust weapon art system where you are able to take abilities from certain enemies. The main thing that makes me think this is the similarity in the wind projectiles between the enemies in the castle and the wa the player used before that.
Hey, can you provide a timestamp for that "You can see that in one weapon art the player cuts their hand to make a massive attack" ?. Can't find it in the video.
@@crisalidx5881 around 8:48, the player looks like cut his own hand to buff the weapon and the weapon glows dark red, we all can assume it's giving you some sort of damage plus since it should be buffing the sword from that
looking at the stat screen: VGR, MND, END seem to be the stats for HP, M/FP, and SP. Arcane might just be our summoning/luck stat. Equip load being laid out clearly has me hopeful that they'll be more informative a la DkS2 rather than DkS3's stat screen and numbers being unclear. Also hoping that since STR effects equip load, they don't tie cast speed to DEX again lol
I honestly thought the glowing eye on the Drake was more like the deathblow mechanic from Sekiro than a riposte system. Seems like From is really taking everything they've learned for Elden Ring.
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Stats are pretty clear: Vigor = HP Mind = FP + Memory Slots Str, Dex, Int, Fth = same as DS, scaling stats Arcane = Item Discovery (base is 100 as usual + 10 from Arcane), Luck, other minor scaling (e.g. like bleed / hollow in DS3)
Being able to lvl up on the go is one of the things I loved about ds1, cuz it really felt like you were on a journey with no designated place to call home, save for the bonfires
Yes, absolutely this. It really felt like a personal "lonely" journey through Lordran. Don't get me wrong, I love to have a safe place like The Hunters Dream, The Nexus or Majula but this isolation in DS1 hit different, in a very positive way for me
Since maiden-based leveling doesn't seem to be going anywhere, letting you talk with the maiden from any bonfire is a decent compromise, I suppose. ~w~
Me and my brother found it quite fun to spot all the reused animations, like the dragon side swipe appears similar to the one they’ve used since Kalameet, the dragon falling for the riposte opportunity, and that skeleton forming head pat animation they haven’t bothered changing since DS1.
I think that players will definitely be given the option to also graph things onto themselves. In the multiplayer portion, the co-op partner is seen using a Dragon attack that looked similar to what Godric does in his boss fight. Maybe it would function somewhat similar to Beasthood in Bloodborne, but there would now be more transformations available.
2:30 Mind is Attunement which increases the FP and adds additional Attunement Slots aka. Memory Slots. Luck in DS3 is basically replaced by Arcane which basically increased the character's Item Discovery but here Arcane might have additional benefits like for example, increasing the time spirits can be summoned.
Coming from a relatively new fan but still someone whos enjoyed these games since bloodbornes release, thank you so much Zullie for everything youve done for this community. Your videos have reignited my love for this series, and even boosted my creativity and passion for game design and encouraged me to learn how to code and start my own studio! I dont think I ever would have thought to try if your content hadn't gotten me interested in how games are made and the little tricks and secrets that are often hidden from the player. So thank you not only for giving the average fan a window into what used to be only available to an incredibly small group of dedicated hackers and data miners, but also for being a big part of why I was able to find a new personal passion.
Sounds good to me. I dunno if I'm the only one out there that dislikes it but I hated invading people only to invade into a world setting up a fight club while there's arena's you can go to with 2v2's and such.
Zullie, just wanted to say that I hope you don’t feel pressured to immediately start cracking this game apart for us fans; you work so damn hard as is, we definitely want you to get at least one proper run through the game before you get back to what you do. Thanks for all of the great content. 💙
This game seems like its everything FromSoft has tried to make in the past but either failed or didn't do correctly, except this time they got it down, they heard the criticism they heard the complaints, and this game is an answer to all of them.
It's so weird to me, someone who played Armored Core games before Demon's Souls was even a twinkle in its father's eye, that people know From Software for their melee-focused action-RPG games. Armored Core had its rough patches as a series, but I think I can solidly recommend Armored Core and its two sequels, Armored Core 2 and its sequel, Armored Core 3 and its sequel, and Armored Core 4 and its sequel. (Yes, I know how weird that looks. It makes sense if you look up how they named/numbered the games.)
I just want them to make big weapons rest on the shoulder when in the left hand DS2 GOT IT , WHY DS3 COULDNT DO IT WHEN THERE IS A GODAMN TWIN GREATSWORD IN THE GAME
Tbh I wouldn’t judge the game until the hype dies off a few months after release. We still don’t know if magic is any good, what the meta would be like, etc. to make any claims on if this game will cover every complaint. It’ll probably be really good, but I doubt it’ll be the perfect game you’re hyping right now.
The "soul greatsword" used in the godrick fight isn't cast with a spell, so I think it might actually be a weapon skill that requires high FP cost and some intelligence (so perhaps weapon skills have stat requirements themselves)
@@kanseidorifto2430 I highly doubt the authenticity of that, just because it seems so weird; and we can't really say if the "soul greatsword" here is an actual spell or not. (it's like comparing lothric's holy blade weapon art to that of a spell, though with the caveat that this spell existed in other games. If you prove me wrong I'll give you a few of whatever is the effective ember/humanity/human effigy of Elden Ring.
@@kanseidorifto2430 well, I think we’re both right and both wrong… some ashes of war pretty much are spells, but they aren’t really. Weird, but it is a hella cool system!
I’ve only just begun following the hype train, but during the stealth bit, was that a sleep arrow they used? Now I’m wondering about the addition of new status effects and potentially non-lethal damage?
If I had to guess, I would wager that Vigor is health, Endurance is stamina/equip load,Str and Dex are probably classic weapon types, The split between Faith, Intelligence, Mind and Arcane is a little less clear though. I would assume due to it's positioning in the list that it acts similar to DS3 attunement. Faith is probably classic fromsoft miracles, however int/arc is confusing. This might be a stretch but I have to wonder if there is a third type of magic, int covering sorceries and Arcane covering the summoning of creatures/phantoms of enemies that we see in the video. As for how the spirits work, since it is an open world map, I wonder if there would be ds1 style nearly no loading gates and that the NPCs would just be hidden offscreen, with only a few sets covering vast swathes of the map each. Beyond that I find it interesting that it looks like they might be continuing the whole greed=bad physical change. Godrick seems really corrupted and warped, something that also applied to previous mimics (if I remember correctly greedy humans became mimics.) I'm not surprised that they are bringing back chargeable magic, it doesn't seem to bee too much of a stretch going from chargeable heavy attacks and the old moonlight spell to many more chargeable magic attacks. Overall I can't wait to see Zullie chop this thing up and figure out how it ticks. Especially how it deals with NPC ability to follow the player and whether the world will be 'zoned' or if it will be considered by the computer to be one massive area
if they streamline int to be both pyros and sorceries, i expect arcane, along with being a luck stat, will allow us to use certain tools like the dragon head stone we see the other coop player use, and possible things not unlike hunter tools in bloodborne. i could be wrong tho
Vigor is HP Mind is Attunement Slots Str/Dex is same as usual Intelligence is for not-sorceries Faith is for not-miracles Arcane is probs for evil magic
so many interesting this we can take away from what they've shown. The standouts for me so far are: - obvious Soulsborne assets - Sekiro stealth and assets - BotW Map and waypoints - BotW/HorizonZeroDawn crafting system - casting/magic arts looks lit - there a spell that is cast in the original video that is the same as the terror beam Shichimen warriors use in Sekiro - they've SOMEWHAT improved the jumping animation from the leaked clip we recently saw
I think the spots near the lightning are graves of other players like bloodstains, and the lightning signals the presence of a field boss who'd show up if you stick around, at least that's my speculation.
Its funny how that “egg” turned out to just be an evil sea snail thing.
A bag of poison
they're called ''land squirts''
They're sea squirts, not snails.
I always thought its some kind of mushroom
the realization that the pot WAS the guy stuck and not someone stuck inside the pot itself
Yeah that revelation blew my mind
Who knows, maybe there'll be a twist where a guy suddenly jumps out of the pot.
I'm not trusting anything until we get that lid off. There's got to be something in there and I'm deeply suspicious of what it could be.
@@ZullietheWitch inb4 siegmeyer
@@noecarrier5035 inb4 patches
"There's a dude in that pot, classic Souls."
HE IS THE POT
I thought it was siegward stuck in the pot like he was stuck in the well.
Guess you could call that a pot twist
@@Ryan-op7yd take your like and get out
@@justpassing2533 no he can stay
@@Ryan-op7yd *begrudgingly gives a like*
I love that the "third npc" is just a corpse
"They'd have to change the system, otherwise it would be too inefficient"
**cue in Elden Ring having 8 billion NPCs floating beneath the map**
Cant wait for that video
That would be so hilarious
I imagine if that's the case, Zullie will find out within a week of the game's release LOL
32gb ram as minimum requirement, 64 recommended
SSD intensifies.
Fable II had a spell that let you summon the soul of the last enemy/ies you killed to aid you in battle, and they seemed to move like NPCs. Could it be something like that?
I'm not going to know where to begin when I can finally dig into this game. After the troubled development of Dark Souls II and Dark Souls III, it's great to see so many things in Elden Ring that they had planned to do that didn't make it into those games. Elden Ring seems like it's truly the game From has been trying, but not quite managing, to make for years.
The game feels like a mix of Ds3 and oddly, Breath of the Wild
Yup..i have the same feeling..like Elden Ring is the game they wanted to make since Kings Field...DS1 had rushed development so many things cut out..DS2 had troubled development as well.. idk for DS3.. but it seems like every time something was in the way to make perfect Fromsoft game...in each they learned a little bit... and hopefully everything comes together in Elden Ring...xD
Cant wait..but wait will not be too bad...i have Dragons Dogma to finish..and one more playthrough of DS3 till February... i think those two games are perfect to play in preparation for Elden Ring :D
Yeah, it definitely looks like they've taken all their best gameplay concepts and finally put them into practice the way they wanted to. I already had very high expectations for the game considering it's Fromsoft, but after seeing the gameplay the game is set to exceed my hopes and expectations. Can't wait to lose myself in it.
Out of curiosity, which unfinished elements from Dark Souls 2 have you seen shown in Elden Ring so far?
it feels like the culmination of all their games and ideas so far, bringing the best of each game while adding a new open world on top of it. Sounds like my dream game to be honest
Something that seems rather interesting to me about Elden Ring is that unlike Soulsborne we're not arriving in this Empire or Kingdom after it's already gone to shit, we're arriving right in the middle of it going to shit. Which imo makes the setting a lot more interesting.
Perhaps we’ll make the process of everything shitting itself faster
This is what I've been longing for in a souls game, along with hub areas that actually feel populated with NPCs, both interactable and not, and not just a central area that will later serve as easy access to various services provided by the folks you meet along the way.
True that man. I tend to get really really invested in the lore of video games and one of the things that intrigues me the most is the setting of a once great kingdom/nation that has fallen into ruin and is now a shell of its former glory(Dark Souls and Hollow Knight both immediately come to mind but there are probably other examples too).
They’re as vast as they are awe-inspiring, and yet, they’re far past their prime lore-wise. It’s as if the player’s entire journey merely takes place in the epilogue of the kingdom’s story and you just can’t help but wonder how incredible this place used to look before everything went down. Elden Ring seems like it’s taking place the slightest bit before the story’s epilogue, which I think is going to make it very unique among these sorts of games
That's what I liked about sekiro so much, you were there for the main parts of the story, the invasion and downfall of the capital
Same as sekiro, moreover the player are the reason of the nation's (ashina) downfall
Finally, a new stealth option other than walking slowly towards your enemy like an anime character.
Hold up, is that supposed to be stealth in ds3??
@@walkingburgers95 pretty much
@@kego8159 Hol fck that's dumb, I've only played through the game 1.5 times, but I thought that was exclusively for when you don't want to fall off of somewhere and have to pay close attention to where you're stepping lol.
Now you're crouch walking towards your enemy like other generic stealth games! What an improvement! Joking aside, it looks like a fun game.
@@Chronuz imagine having to crouch in real life as well to reduce your profile and make you harder to detect just like in every game...........wait............
"Why is this game taking so long??"
(screams internally at the thought of animating all 14,000 of Goderick's fingers)
They spent those 2.5 years of radio silence entirely dedicated to animating Godrick’s fingers
@@cayfire129 third phase turns them into toes, and he walks on all of them
@@cayfire129 Nah... rigging and skinning would be a pain... but the hands can be if he's got more than a few animations just given a rig item that you move to open/close hands automaticly, and in varying styles (all at once sudden forced outstretched fingers, or that gradual uncurling of fingers like when he removed the cloak), so I imagine for him they took the extra day or two or so polishing his rig so the animators could save time later on and increase the quality. Even if hand animated, unless he is used a lot more than in this one fight it still woudn't even be that bad to animate individual fingers in most animation software, annoying yes, but we'de be talking an extra week or two for one artists to go over all likely animations and polish off the fingers after the fact tops, and most likely less than a day or two even honestly. Just pray there's no issues that require changes to its rigging/animations/mesh/skeleton making you redo it all. That's the biggest reason to have the rig set up right the first time since unless its a simple short animation sequence or so for him, you'll save time in the long run on any redos or stuff and sadly those always come up in development. Right now doing those on dragons myself... damn wings and their membranes not all being finely enough weighted between the different bones...
Where's handor?
Weighting all those hands must have been a nightmare, but animating them not so much. I assume they just animated the model first and then went throught the little hands adding little movements. Quite time consuming, but not particularly difficult.
I like how Godrick gets visibly excited when he grabs you. This is probably From's most human "monstrosity" boss, and he oozes personality. For as human as the arachnid ladies looked, they were stoic and silent, largely defined by their relationships.
Insanity in a FromSoftware title is often associated with muteness or growling, and it's nice to see a rare willful madman who's testing his unearthly powers on you.
Man, if Artorias could still talk...
Yeah, Sekiro already has some of that at least! I loved the personalities of Genichiro, Owl, and Isshin a lot :)
Have you ever heard Artorias?
It was cut from the game, but you can find it on youtube. And it sounds perfect for him, it's crazy.
Think this is part of why Micolash is so beloved; he's not just another nutjob; he's a very vocal nutjob hamming it up about how much he loves the position he's in.
We've all been there, having the time of our lives just for someone to come and try to ruin the fun.
"Man if artorias could still talk"
*sobs in cut dialogue*
Artorias: sommersaults the chosen undead to death, causing them to rage quit
*at least he died doing what he loved.*
The way Godrick moves when he rolls around and stuff is insane. If he's going to be an early game boss I can't imagine what the Gael equivalent is going to fight like.
Melania is the equivalent I would think, especially with the second stage she goes into
how are you liking the game?
Well, what did you think of Malenia then?
@@ilikespagett1514 to be fair, we haven't got any ER DLC yet so we can't really say Malenia is equivalent to Gael although it does seem like she is.
LMAOOOOO
It's always fascinated me that FromSoft, a studio responsible for one of the most influential and well received game series, always seems to have to make each game with hope, dreams, and lots of duct tape
From's been working with hopes, prayers, and a bit of duck tape since Demon Souls, so if anyone knows how to make something out of nothing, it's them.
That's every game studio, pretty much.
Influential? In the Skyrim modding community maybe. There are little to no games who are souls like or try to imitate it. What influence are you talking about, lol.
@@Oozaru85 is this bait?
@@lafrasjohanuys its bait.
I really like how that door that led to the subterranean caverns was kind of hidden out-of-place it’s going to be really exciting uncovering secrets.
Best thing about open world games
Agreed! It'll be like Skyrim but with an actually fun combat system
That was a fun thought I had as well. Very much reminded me of Elder Scrolls where you could be walking one direction back and forth and only just find a hidden cave off to the side. Here's to hoping Elden Ring has the exploration and discovery of BotW and Elder Scrolls, with the added revamped Soulsborne mechanics
It's really nice because while it's hidden there is 2 paths showing the route to the door so it will be easier to find for someone not looking for it
If Dark Souls was "The Age of the Eclipse" I feel Elden Ring will be "The Age of Fantasia".
Oh... oh you tragic thing.
@@jimijenkins2548 I don't know what that means.
@@DarknessIsTheTruth it's a breserk reference a Manga fromsoftware took a lot of inspiration from it while making the soulsborne g1mes
@@DarknessIsTheTruth berserk, there are ages on the manga. The golden age or classical, more akin to our world, the eclipse, tecnically the dark souls age, and fantasia, the mix between the real world and the fantastical world like a collective of humanity dreams and fears.
exactly
The concept of an invisible horse always being attached to the player is something I didn't consider but is now hilarious to picture
now that the game is out i really am interested to learn how they handled the NPC/map dilemmas you mentioned. engine overhaul? jankfest? the masses must know.
The stealth and verticality are very Sekiro, the setting is very Dark Souls, and the ideas of Arcane, bloodlines, and lesser gods feels very Bloodborne. I'm thinking we might have the perfect game on our hands
With the open world of Breath of the Wild and written by George RR Martin......
@@yumemirai4419 The GRRM part is the scary thing for me, he hasn't written anything of note in like last 10 or so years.
@@yumemirai4419 only like the old lore and the setting of the world is written by GRRM though isnt it ? and the team just made story of Elden Ring out of it
This will be the ultimate soulsborne game
@@PeriqculosusCZ yup, it was like he gave the ideas and Miyazaki worked around that
I think it goes without saying that there are many mechanical similarities between Elden Ring and past Fromsoft titles. I personally have no issues with this game being a successor to Dark Souls (spiritual or otherwise), and I think applying an improved version of that formula to an open world setting will yield some great results.
Totally agree. Imagine, if they would have gone in a whole new direction with this game. This feels like an improvement to the "mechanical formula" of the Souls Games and I am looking forward to it.
it feels better than the same game for the 4th time in a row for sure; there will very possibly be some misses but it's promising
@@zorroya4856 imagine getting shadow of war style of invasions xD
I like it. Itll feel like Darksouls with the smoothness of sekiro. Its going to be awesome
After playing the past FromSoftware games, what were people expecting? They’re the best at what they do!
Something else I’ve noticed, that dragon head spell is actually a Miracle rather than a Pyromancy. The co-operator is holding a catalyst that resembles a faint gold glow, this same catalyst can be seen being used by the monk with a wheel around their neck towards the end of the footage.
Friendship ended with god-worship ❌, now dragon-worship is my best friend 🤝
Another thing to note here, is that spell is very similar (if not identical) to the one Godrick uses. So maybe you can unlock boss spells/weapons like in dark souls 3?
The prophet character also has that weird wheel on the neck gimmick, and they seem to be the class that's replacing clerics so you might be spot on here
No it's a weapon art or skill aquired from defeating the boss who uses it
At first, I thought that Godrick might be a tutorial boss, but seeing his complexity makes me think he's midgame like the Dancer. But I also wouldn't be surprised if, like the dancer, the player couldn't try to beat him early game in order to trigger some sort of change in the world or get into an interesting area.
I think with Elden Ring you're supposed to have a lot of choice so I hope we have lots of choice of when to fight bosses. Godrick, though hopefully a difficult fight, looks like we can get to him fairly early game.
So uh yeah
You know this made me think, since the tutorial pop-ups end at Godrick.. he technically is the tutorial boss lol
He is the second boss lmao
@@MrcreeperDXD777fourth
2:28 I imagine Arcane is a rebranding / overhaul of Luck, they have 10 Arcane and 110 item discovery which is the same you would have in DS3, 100 base + 10 points of luck = 110 Item discovery. Perhaps Arcane is the stat (also) used for spirit summoning.
I think it's the latter, the summoning seems fleshed out enough to warrant its own stat
Mind, meanwhile, may be a similar rebranding / overhaul of Attunement. It's position directly below Vigor leads me to believe that if Vigor affects HP, Mind would affect FP.
My headcanon:
From loved Bloodborne Arcane so much, they brought it in as an entirely independent school of magic apart from Intelligence
@@LittleMountain90 Yep, they are back to using the language of Demon's Souls for spells, "memory slots", so it would make sense to change the stat from "attunement" to something that more intuitively describes what it does, "Mind."
I'm thinking it's a combination Luck and Attunement stat for both skills and item find
can't wait for Zullie to uncover the Trove of Hidden Goblins where our Goblin spirits are stored for later convenient use
"That's the goblin pit. You must never go there."
@@endlesswanderer1753 GS fans playing the game: that's horrible, where?!
This sounds like it has meme potential
@@mmorpgkitty naughty npcs get sent to the Goblin Trove to atone for their sins
Goblins are real
Coming back almost a year later, and after having beaten the game, it's interesting to see how many of your predictions were spot on. I'm still waiting for those first-person mods and the cutscene freecams, but I'm patient enough with all the content that's being generated as it is. It's such a huge game after all!
5:42
What I want: To level up from any checkpoint ala Dark Souls 1.
What Miyazaki wants: Level up waifus.
Hopefully Elden Ring will present the compromise of a Level up waifu always present at the checkpoints, then? And we can all be happy?
"Give me your sem... SOULS. Yes, give me your souls Ashen One."
Very late for me to reply but hey you were right, neat
I would die for Alexander.
My king, the Iron Fist.
Oh you will, plenty of times. And that's why we're all here (pleasured sigh)
Cleopatra in Battle Ages: 😭
KING? IRON FIST? *smiles in Tekken fan*
@@Percival917 NAMCO BANDAI CONFIRMED!!
Get ready for the next battle. 👍🏻
"so that's awful. Can't wait to freecam that cutscene."
Never change Zullie you're an absolute gift and your insights into the mechanics of the series breathe so much depth into even the smallest pieces of content.
From a casual fan, what in this sequence would lead to this reaction? What does the dragon head attachment signify for a modder?
I think it's the transition from the bosses first form to the 2nd, alot of from bosses have absurdly elaborate transformations that would take alot of attention to fully appreciate, hence the excitement for the freecam during said scene.
@@theguitarhero333 Fromsoft has a nack for elaborate and showy boss cutscenes that often employ clever techniques to function in engine. Zullie has covered a number of them from each game but the best example that come to mind would be the ds1 O&s fight where instead of Super Ornstien actually growing they made a copy of the boss room and shrink it to make him look bigger.
In the case of this transforming boss it'll be interesting to see if the two phases will just be different boss models or if From will use the trick of having the dragon arm as a separate paired npc that is either always there but hidden (like the Bloodborne frenzy enemy Zullie has a video on) or otherwise hidden away somewhere waiting to be teleported in. (another common trick From uses for cutscene assets)
The cutscene itself will probably be quite over the top considering the boss is already fairly heavy on the body horror with all the extra limbs and fingers. Likely tearing off his own arm to attach the wyvern head since the statue is seen missing it's head in phase two.
@@semioticwish did not notice that about O and S, damn
"This UI seems like a placeholder"
Hey so bad news lmao
Feels like they disabled a lot of the lesser hostile AI for certain parts of the demo. A number of NPCs and groups seen or walked past may well be more territorial in the final product.
About Godrick, it is entirely possible that his bone count is not as high as it seems. While every arm does need at least two bones, hand movements for the superfluous hands don't seem very complex so they could definitely just be cycling between two shape keys. I don't know if their engine supports shape keys, though.
Seems to me they are using the extract same engine they’ve been using for a while now. Which is not a problem but I think we all seen the limit’s to it
@@itsprod.472 yes, it's very obvious that they're not only using the same engine but even a good bit of the same codebase.
I don't know if any animations in previous games use shape keys though. Btw I just realized they could also use instancing to only really have one back-arm be traditionally animated.
It'd be a lot more than just two or so, since when the cloak comes off you see them gradually opening up one finger at a time slightly out of sync, so that'd be at least on per finger... and likely for each hand or in groups of the hands... but that all relies on them having made the initial mesh with all those fingers in different states anyway, likely done via bones and skinning so they would have a version of the model with the extra bones anyway. And the reality is... at least in all engines I've used, morph targets/mesh weighting/shape keys, etc... are for simple things like this, much more expensive than just adding extra bones are. If you have facial animations where you'd need like sixty bones to replicate that, and all of these facial morphs affect that same head mesh bit, then it's worth it arguably, but using a morph for a finger that only saves maybe three or so bones? Not worth it performance wise I'd say. And it'd also limit your abliity to reference the bones in engine if you want to stick particles on the fingers or hands or rings or other items.
The only reason I can think of them doing that would be if they have a hard limit on the number of bones they can support for their skeletal meshes... And while I'm certain they do, normally it'd be much higher than what I'd expect to see on him even with every finger getting its own bone, and numerous bones on his cloak and other stuff to help with all that smooth animation.
So my money is on it just being lots of normal bones in this case... If it was like dozens of hands randomly opening and closing, then sure, make them instanced meshes maybe using a blend mesh or bones itself... but these looked more tightly mixed into the main mesh and acted more in line with his animations and actions so that's not really an option here.
@@terricon4 There could be a quiet model swap between cutscene and battle to shift from an intricate bone-heavy model to one that isn't so detailed. That would allow for the cutscene to do things the boss can't do in battle but which wouldn't make sense in battle anyway. Just my 2 cents. We'll have to wait until the game is released to get into details like this.
@@terricon4 yeah, you're most probably right. As stated in the og comment, I was just putting on the table the possibility of it not being bones. As much as shape keys and other fancy stuff can be fun to work with, I doubt From would rework how they usually rig and animate characters for a single boss, especially if it meant not having complete bone control and adjusting the overall animation pipeline
I absolutely love alexander and if he turns out to be a bad guy I will cry
He should be safe from that. Alexander seems more like a comic relief character and the "good guy turns out to be bad" trope is usually used for the more serious ones, if anything he's probably going to die during a questline.
@@vermillion6159 oh god not another solaire 😭
He will probably go crazy and have to be killed
Patches becomes a pot
If he wants the world burned I will do it in a heartbeat for vase husbando
"Hopefully the bird will be more manageable with jumping"
False hope that was
From’s decision to call them dragons and not wyverns specifically probably comes from George R. R. Martins giving his dragons four limbs instead of six because he wanted them to follow real world biology. Wyverns exist in the world of ice and fire, but are different creatures entirely.
Most terrible of all are the wyverns, those tyrants of the southern skies, with their great leathery wings, cruel beaks, and insatiable hunger. Close kin to dragons, wyverns cannot breathe fire, but they exceed their cousins in ferocity and are a match for them in all other respects save size.
-The World of Ice and Fire
You should put quotation marks around the bit you got from the books
I think you're on the mark with that assumption, knowing that George wrote the history of this world I'd definitely believe he'd make sure to use the word Dragons rather than Wyverns.
Then what's the eight-limbed lightning-throwing dragon in one of the previous trailers supposed to be? Are they gonna call it something else?
@@Dinoman972 A spider, duh
Patches will have to up his game, judging how even guys in heavy armour don't take damage from falling down.
Maybe he’ll drop an exploding bug behind us, oh wait…
prolly ring out a bell and attract a ton of assholes to you
Probably push you down a pit... but with spikes.
@@jacobhoover1654 think that was in one..
@@kjwyouell584 Maybe he'll push you into a pit... full of spiders. Spider spikes in a poison swamp.
i like how when godrick grabs you, you can see his mouth moving and laughing a lot, pretty cool detail
His laughter will stuck in my mind...
Reminded me of Palpatine
@@BierBart12 true
Did anyone else notice the summoned ally uses the dragon hand from goderick in the fight against the knight?
Also if you look at the bottom right of the inventory there are "Memory slots"? I think that those might be the NPC summons and the symbol on the players hand is likely a shared pictogram with the equipped item.
I really just want co-op without having to spend limited tokens or worrying about some try hard invader with a laggy connection.
Literally 😭 bloodborne is the ONLY soulsborne game to do Co-op/PVP even remotely well
For fucking real though
Git gud
lmao
Sucks to suck
I appreciate the technical, objective, genuine approach in this video Zullie. Not overhyping, no absurd speculation, just concise, objective, well informed thoughts and opinions. You even tempered my expectations, if only slightly, which is a good thing! Great video, thanks for this one!
@toptier bryan if you don't care why did you reply? But he's right, as great as I'm expecting it to be, it's better to not totally overblow the expectations
also, about the NPC instanciation on the flight : it is specified that summonable spirits are equipped at a bonfire, so there might be some trick going on with that, maybe they have an NPCs pool with all of them disabled (hidden basically), and once you use your item or whatever to summon spirits it draws the chosen ones from the pool, activate them, and disable them once they die so they can return to the pool of summonable NPCs. That's how game devs handle complex autonaumous bullets in shooter games for example.
That would be a LOT of NPCs though depending on how many different spirit summons are available. Also I think the clip showed multiple of the same character being summoned
And I mean, at this point its long overdue that the game can dynamically load in new NPCs right? I'm hopeful at least xD
They definitely found some trickery rather than adding new code, its fromsoft afterall
Equipping summons seems separate from spell slots, too, though I'm not sure how From went from the disappointing fireball summon in DaS3 to the spirits in Elden Ring.
@@MonoFlax they could have the dynamic loading happening at the bonfire since that's already a point where npcs get reset in their games.
@@chr0onomeister ohhh true!
When they pulled out a torch when they went into a dungeon it really reminded me of the pre release footage of ds2 with its light system. I'm really excited for this game its looking to be a very good culmination of all FS has been working towards
The combat from the trailer itself really made me excited. Feels like I’m about to experience a FromSoft game for the first time all over again. Stealth being one of my favorite forms of combat, also looking like a more viable method since its not as much in Dark Souls makes me more excited.
One of my favorite things from the trailer was when the charecter cast that arrow rain spell, it reminds me of a certain hungry glob...
Yeah, we all reckonized our favorite slug spell !
I died so many times to that...
Like a mix between aldritchs arrow rain and a call beyond
9:22 when he's laughing as he roasts you, how his mouth was opened an animated, I loved that moment of his character with that facial expression mixing with the audio and his action. Made it clear that they put a lot of work into him and his model, both as a boss, and as a character.
It looks so goofy though lol my guy is all poggers
I hope all the other bosses are provided with as much effort! I would assume they would, but I haven’t seen any of the others yet 😂
Dragon and horse dude, quality on the dragon looked a little meh from what I saw... the horse guy looked a bit more interesting, though both are still hard to say given how it was clipped up and that uncertainty since its open world, what if I run over to a ledge and plink them with a bow? How do they respond? I got my concerns still on them.
Ohh Alexander. One of the few true friends i've made so far. I felt a bit bad during the festival of Radahn when he talks so lowly of himself and then was heftily shocked when he said "let me just throw some warrior dead bodies in me and i'll be fine." That was not a thing I was expecting.
really neat things you pointed out! i like this video alot and cant wait to see the stuff you make on it in the future!
wow that hitbox was ridiculous on the spear enemies.
I speculate the pots are actually just piloted by a person inside it.
The three most interesting things to me are how enemy aggression works, the retaliation attack that was shown off in combat, and the potential for movement in the level geometry.
I'm curious how enemies will react when you're in those hard to reach areas especially bosses
"this would be highly inefficient"
*flashback to bloodborne on the og ps4*
from: the sign cant stop me cause i cant read
>models actual 3D moon to hang overhead at all times instead of making it part of the skybox
@@zopler5537 Yup it's actually a sphere in the sky, not part of the skybox. I'm guessing this is something to do with the switch from regular moon to blood moon that happens half way through.
Thanks Zullie, a video like this is exactly what I was hoping for. You're awesome.
Finally got the time to watch the vid - amazing job Zullie. The content is awesome and apparently never ending. So glad you decided to start posting more and more. I'm at the point where I look forward to any vid, just to see what hidden gem is to be found
Kudos and keep up the great work
Something exciting I noticed about the scimitar guy - when he is wielding 2 scimitars he has 2 sheathes on his sides, whereas in the instance where he uses the wind skill, there is only one on the left. Also, when using the twinblade, he has one sheathed scimitar on the right.
In dark souls, twin weapons always appear on your character's belt even when not two handed. These are clearly two separate scimitars, one in the right hand slot, one in the left. To me, this is unbleeding proof that powerstancing is back!!
WOOOOOO! CONFIRMED BY FACTS AND LOGIC, THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!
I want so badly for you to be right
Magic. One thing I liked about remaster of Demon Souls was fancy and juicy magic animations. And it seems like Elden Ring has magic looking as juicy as other devs did in DeS Remake
it can't just look good. It also needs to be functional and practical, which imo is what From lacks when it comes to magic.
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@@Whodjathink I will admit, I _have_ always enjoyed finding ways to make magic work effectively in pvp in From's titles, due in no small part to the playstyles that has led me to, which I have thoroughly enjoyed. I can also see, at least in Dark Souls 3, that they at least seemed to acknowledge that there needed to be spells specifically designed to be used in pvp such as the Farron darts and lightning arrow spells. However, trying to fight primarily with magic in pvp in Soulsborne has almost always been a fool's errand. You can kind of pull it off with pyromancy in narrow situations using specific builds, but outside of the Dark Souls 3 dueling arena, pyromancy's effectiveness falls off hard, as does the effectiveness of healing spells.
What's more, there's not a whole lot of good magic can accomplish in pve outside of 'blow it up.' Yes, there are rare, niche situations where something like fall control or hidden body/hush can be useful, but when was the last time anyone remembers using, or seeing someone use, Undead Rapport? It's just faster and easier to fireball the thing and move on. Even a lot of the damage spells in Dark Souls have serious problems. Again looking at pyromancy in Dark Souls 3, every pyromancy they introduced with the DLCs are just trap options. It's literally more damage per second to just spam your best direct fireball nuke, and Bursting Fireball (the fireball shotgun) is similarly useless, which is a tragedy because it's a cool spell. It's the kind of thing that _should_ be a great frontal cone AoE for when you get rushed by multiple enemies. . . but you're still better off hucking the biggest fireball you have and hoping some of the enemies get caught in the blast. I've been talking about pyromancy, but all forms of spellcasting in From's games have these issues. Don't even get me started about Bloodborne.
I don't need every spell to be good, I understand there will be some trap options no matter what they do, because not everything can be equally useful, but surely, a majority of the available spells should have their moments to shine, moments where the player will feel like they've made the right choice by going with that spell over a more 'standard nuke' spell.
Unusual spells in pve have to be more than just unusual, they have to be good, and if magic is ever to be viable as a primary fighting strategy, as opposed to a supplementary toolkit, my opponent must be forced to do more than just roll directly at me and through the effect, by the spell I cast. Not asking for an 'I-win' button, but I was one of the first people to come up with the iron flesh / sacred flame combo, and when people started getting wise to that, I switched it up with black flame. The Scott Jund put out a meta-dueling pyromancer build, that basically used fire surge to provoke someone into doing something stupid and charging into black flame, or to just slowly, aggravatingly, burn someone down if they were using an ultra. Sure, it's fun when that's an _option_ , but not when it's just about the only way to make pyro good in duels.
The possibilities with things like a combination of ranged AoE effects like the arrow rain, and the ability to summon spirits, makes me cautiously optimistic, but I still need to be convinced. Just once, I'd like to not be _as handicapped as I am_ when I play pure spellcaster builds in pvp, and I'd like to actually have more cool and interesting options for spellcasting in pve.
@@stupidanon5941 I read this all and I completely agree. Certain spells like Fall Control end up being useless (and a waste of a slot) when rings can do the exact same thing. And I hate how it feels like you're fighting an uphill battle when it comes to spellcasting in a souls game. Bloodborne I give a slight pass because they were more about guns and hunting. Like if a "normal" person went up against monsters kind of thing, so at least thematically it works. But in the other souls games where they have enemies and bosses' spells be more effective than yours, then yeah it's a major problem.
People will bring up how it'll be difficult to balance magic yet having low health/stamina and a much higher requirement to even wield spells doesn't seem to be "balanced" in their eyes. While I'm on the topic of requirements, it's outright ridiculous some of the requirements to use some of the spells/miracles/pyromancies and the amount of damage you actually get out of it. It's almost never worth the investment to ever use anything outside of a straight/greatsword half the time
@@stupidanon5941 i also read this all but i haven’t got the slightest technical knowledge to pitch in, so ill just keep on reading lol. For the record, i did run a pure pyro build in one play through and it could be infuriating at times, but when you managed to kill someone, let alone the host and his two buddies, oooohh boy!
Can't wait for your videos on this game, they are always extremely well made!
One thing I’m wondering is that the world of Elden Ring could be the painted world created by the girl from DS3
This is now my head cannon thank youuuuu
I feel like no one has said anything about how cool a bird with swords for legs is
didn't even notice that lol
It doesn't have swords for legs, if you look closely you'll see the swords actually seem to be attached to its talons somehow
@@JM64 likely grafting, the setting of Elden Ring seems to focus more on body horror
@@JM64 It has organic jointed legs but they end in swords
@@D0NTST4RT Yes, but it does seem to have proper talons too.
Slow down the video and pause
Moving around seems to be exactly like sekiro, you can stay in stealth until detected and I guess you can instakill normal enemies from behind.
Seems like you might have to hit them with a sleep arrow though, otherwise he could have just snuck up behind that guy in the camp and stealth deathblowed him
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Knowing stealth games, they might have slept them to not take a chance at whiffing the strike.
not sure because if you look at the stealth part of the video the moment they kill the guard hit by the sleeping arrow the music changes from stealth-like to action/exciting battle music so msybe they have a way to balance it
I really hope that's not the case, because it would mean you're more or less required to use Stealth. And I don't like Stealth. It did work well in Sekiro, but I'm wanting something more akin to a Bloodborne type game. One that takes Souls and adds new mechanics, a new setting, new lore, and new paces for combat.
Well in the old leak trailers, before the offical trailer, i saw some stealth backstab move, which maybe you can backstab enemies while crouching but it'll be the same backstab move as Dark Souls 3
Interesting seeing what you got right and wrong here post launch
ngl i'm hyped for your videos keep up the good work man ty
Notice that Alexander's model doesn't quite fit this ground. This suggests to me that his encounter will be dynamic, appearing at different places on each playthrough rather than set locations
That would be a neat tidbit.
Or even multiple times in a playthrough. I mean how many times did we help out Onion Man?
@@Shadorenify oh the parallels! its deep.
@@Shadorenify yoooo, what if Alexander is the npc that get eaten by the monster all the time or smh and we have to save him throughout the game
@@Shadorenify I got mad onion man energy from pot boy. I was sad when he said Alexander rather than Siegpotmeyer.
There seems to be a new type of magic, "blood magic" kinda thing. You can see that in one weapon art the player cuts their hand to make a massive attack, and before the boss fight they apply some unusual red buff onto the weapon that doesn't quite look like fire.
Perhaps a type of skills that use HP instead of FP to cast?
One thought I had is maybe it's a hint at a more robust weapon art system where you are able to take abilities from certain enemies. The main thing that makes me think this is the similarity in the wind projectiles between the enemies in the castle and the wa the player used before that.
Hey, can you provide a timestamp for that "You can see that in one weapon art the player cuts their hand to make a massive attack" ?. Can't find it in the video.
@@crisalidx5881 right after 3 skeleton special attack in the windy area.
@@crisalidx5881 around 8:48, the player looks like cut his own hand to buff the weapon and the weapon glows dark red, we all can assume it's giving you some sort of damage plus since it should be buffing the sword from that
@@paradoxcloud4939 That just looks like a resin application animation. I believe OP is talking about 6:40
looking at the stat screen: VGR, MND, END seem to be the stats for HP, M/FP, and SP. Arcane might just be our summoning/luck stat. Equip load being laid out clearly has me hopeful that they'll be more informative a la DkS2 rather than DkS3's stat screen and numbers being unclear.
Also hoping that since STR effects equip load, they don't tie cast speed to DEX again lol
I like the format of this video. It gives us insight into what you are thinking about, which is really cool.
I honestly thought the glowing eye on the Drake was more like the deathblow mechanic from Sekiro than a riposte system. Seems like From is really taking everything they've learned for Elden Ring.
Also the takedown thing after shooting the guy with the arrow
Poise is back, fall damage is gone. That's all I need.
Why do you think fall damage is gone? It might as well just be reduced like in Sekiro.
@@unison_moody it is reduced, the version of this trailer shown to the press has a hud, and it shows minimal (yet existent) fall damage
Finally I can do my turtle and Giant Dad builds, been wanting to do it since DS1
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Stats are pretty clear:
Vigor = HP
Mind = FP + Memory Slots
Str, Dex, Int, Fth = same as DS, scaling stats
Arcane = Item Discovery (base is 100 as usual + 10 from Arcane), Luck, other minor scaling (e.g. like bleed / hollow in DS3)
Being able to lvl up on the go is one of the things I loved about ds1, cuz it really felt like you were on a journey with no designated place to call home, save for the bonfires
Yes, absolutely this. It really felt like a personal "lonely" journey through Lordran. Don't get me wrong, I love to have a safe place like The Hunters Dream, The Nexus or Majula but this isolation in DS1 hit different, in a very positive way for me
But Miyazaki wants you to see his waifu with bare feet as often as possible.
Since maiden-based leveling doesn't seem to be going anywhere, letting you talk with the maiden from any bonfire is a decent compromise, I suppose. ~w~
Me and my brother found it quite fun to spot all the reused animations, like the dragon side swipe appears similar to the one they’ve used since Kalameet, the dragon falling for the riposte opportunity, and that skeleton forming head pat animation they haven’t bothered changing since DS1.
LAZY developers. LAZY!
@@MichaelDoesLife *sprays water* Bad! NO!
Why change something already perfect?
@@AGKyran honestly as olongapo as they don’t reuse the dragon charges of death I’ll be happy.
the skeleton head tap is so cute, i hope every game with skeletons has it lmao
This was actually very informative, I love when people that know the inside bits give their two cents on trailers.
no, actually, hitting up the grace and ignoring varre seems about right actually
Not talking to varre???, truly a maidenless tarnished you are then
alexander being the one to wield the moonlight greatsword in this game would be pretty amazing.
At first i tought Alexander was IN the pot boy, not the pot boy itself
To be fair, we don't know what's in there. The pot guys could be a lot more messed up than we think.
@@ZullietheWitch Yeah, that true. The texture of the arms kinda makes me think of some kind of elemental creature
I think that players will definitely be given the option to also graph things onto themselves. In the multiplayer portion, the co-op partner is seen using a Dragon attack that looked similar to what Godric does in his boss fight. Maybe it would function somewhat similar to Beasthood in Bloodborne, but there would now be more transformations available.
That's a spell.
I didn't even notice that NPC on the left! amongst other neat details. Thanks for the take.
*Realizes arcane is a stat* Ahh, majestic.
A tarnished is a tarnished, even in a dream
A Tarnished is a Tarnished, even in a dream...
@@bl00by_ haha, lol
@@aya8475 Well that's a weird coincidence...
But alas, not to fast
The release date swirls and churns undecided
2:30 Mind is Attunement which increases the FP and adds additional Attunement Slots aka. Memory Slots. Luck in DS3 is basically replaced by Arcane which basically increased the character's Item Discovery but here Arcane might have additional benefits like for example, increasing the time spirits can be summoned.
DS3 - Luck
BB - Arcane (above Bloodtinge)
Coming from a relatively new fan but still someone whos enjoyed these games since bloodbornes release, thank you so much Zullie for everything youve done for this community. Your videos have reignited my love for this series, and even boosted my creativity and passion for game design and encouraged me to learn how to code and start my own studio! I dont think I ever would have thought to try if your content hadn't gotten me interested in how games are made and the little tricks and secrets that are often hidden from the player. So thank you not only for giving the average fan a window into what used to be only available to an incredibly small group of dedicated hackers and data miners, but also for being a big part of why I was able to find a new personal passion.
Congrats on 200k!!!!
Interesting that they said pvp AND invasions like they were 2 separate things. Maybe that means that we'll also get some sort of arenas.
Sounds good to me. I dunno if I'm the only one out there that dislikes it but I hated invading people only to invade into a world setting up a fight club while there's arena's you can go to with 2v2's and such.
@@paulhayes7165 DS1 and DS3 also had arenas in their respective DLCs. Hopefully Elden Ring will have one in the base game.
7:00 anyone notice that the armour is rusted or maybe "tarnished" I bet this is Elden rings hollowing equivalent
Yeah the sword also looks more coppery. You can see that more cloth is torn away here compared to other scenes too.
Congrats on 200k Zullie!
Thank you for this wonderful analysis I'm even more excited now!
Friendship ended with Solaire, now Alexander is my best friend
Zullie, just wanted to say that I hope you don’t feel pressured to immediately start cracking this game apart for us fans; you work so damn hard as is, we definitely want you to get at least one proper run through the game before you get back to what you do. Thanks for all of the great content. 💙
At this point, I think Zullie's doing it for herself as much as she's doing it for us.
Her?
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Damn! That looks awesome! Also thanks for highlighting the missed details
This game seems like its everything FromSoft has tried to make in the past but either failed or didn't do correctly, except this time they got it down, they heard the criticism they heard the complaints, and this game is an answer to all of them.
Yeah?
What's the timestamp for the modular mech design and play portion of the game?
@@Mythraen WHERE IS THE VIABLE MIRACLE BUILD OLD MA-wait wrong youtuber
It's so weird to me, someone who played Armored Core games before Demon's Souls was even a twinkle in its father's eye, that people know From Software for their melee-focused action-RPG games.
Armored Core had its rough patches as a series, but I think I can solidly recommend Armored Core and its two sequels, Armored Core 2 and its sequel, Armored Core 3 and its sequel, and Armored Core 4 and its sequel. (Yes, I know how weird that looks. It makes sense if you look up how they named/numbered the games.)
I just want them to make big weapons rest on the shoulder when in the left hand
DS2 GOT IT , WHY DS3 COULDNT DO IT WHEN THERE IS A GODAMN TWIN GREATSWORD IN THE GAME
Tbh I wouldn’t judge the game until the hype dies off a few months after release. We still don’t know if magic is any good, what the meta would be like, etc. to make any claims on if this game will cover every complaint. It’ll probably be really good, but I doubt it’ll be the perfect game you’re hyping right now.
Godrick, grant us arms
It's cool to see how looking back, much of Zullie's predictions were spot on. Not the "egg" though. That's a Land Squirt.
This feels, so far, amazing. Im trying desperately to not get my hopes up but this demo is making that difficult.
The "soul greatsword" used in the godrick fight isn't cast with a spell, so I think it might actually be a weapon skill that requires high FP cost and some intelligence (so perhaps weapon skills have stat requirements themselves)
I’ve heard on a discord server that spells can be cast potentially with melee weapons, but are nowhere as good as through a staff or other catalyst.
@@kanseidorifto2430 I highly doubt the authenticity of that, just because it seems so weird; and we can't really say if the "soul greatsword" here is an actual spell or not. (it's like comparing lothric's holy blade weapon art to that of a spell, though with the caveat that this spell existed in other games. If you prove me wrong I'll give you a few of whatever is the effective ember/humanity/human effigy of Elden Ring.
@@draxxilion5957 Debatably so. And back at you for giving you the equivalent in Elden Ring.
@@kanseidorifto2430 well, I think we’re both right and both wrong… some ashes of war pretty much are spells, but they aren’t really. Weird, but it is a hella cool system!
I’ve only just begun following the hype train, but during the stealth bit, was that a sleep arrow they used?
Now I’m wondering about the addition of new status effects and potentially non-lethal damage?
Definitely was, as in the scene before they crafted a sleep arrow.
Ymfah is going to love doing a pacifist run on this game.
Imagine beating a boss, but not killing it
I'm more excited to see you dive deep into the games and how they work mechanically than I am to actually play it, and it looks like a rad game!
*THIS* is this video I've most been waiting for. Thank you Zullie.
If I had to guess, I would wager that Vigor is health, Endurance is stamina/equip load,Str and Dex are probably classic weapon types, The split between Faith, Intelligence, Mind and Arcane is a little less clear though.
I would assume due to it's positioning in the list that it acts similar to DS3 attunement.
Faith is probably classic fromsoft miracles, however int/arc is confusing.
This might be a stretch but I have to wonder if there is a third type of magic, int covering sorceries and Arcane covering the summoning of creatures/phantoms of enemies that we see in the video.
As for how the spirits work, since it is an open world map, I wonder if there would be ds1 style nearly no loading gates and that the NPCs would just be hidden offscreen, with only a few sets covering vast swathes of the map each.
Beyond that I find it interesting that it looks like they might be continuing the whole greed=bad physical change. Godrick seems really corrupted and warped, something that also applied to previous mimics (if I remember correctly greedy humans became mimics.)
I'm not surprised that they are bringing back chargeable magic, it doesn't seem to bee too much of a stretch going from chargeable heavy attacks and the old moonlight spell to many more chargeable magic attacks.
Overall I can't wait to see Zullie chop this thing up and figure out how it ticks. Especially how it deals with NPC ability to follow the player and whether the world will be 'zoned' or if it will be considered by the computer to be one massive area
if they streamline int to be both pyros and sorceries, i expect arcane, along with being a luck stat, will allow us to use certain tools like the dragon head stone we see the other coop player use, and possible things not unlike hunter tools in bloodborne. i could be wrong tho
Theres a lot more things beneath the surface, but arcane might be involved with weapon arts.
Vigor is HP
Mind is Attunement Slots
Str/Dex is same as usual
Intelligence is for not-sorceries
Faith is for not-miracles
Arcane is probs for evil magic
so many interesting this we can take away from what they've shown. The standouts for me so far are:
- obvious Soulsborne assets
- Sekiro stealth and assets
- BotW Map and waypoints
- BotW/HorizonZeroDawn crafting system
- casting/magic arts looks lit
- there a spell that is cast in the original video that is the same as the terror beam Shichimen warriors use in Sekiro
- they've SOMEWHAT improved the jumping animation from the leaked clip we recently saw
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I think the spots near the lightning are graves of other players like bloodstains, and the lightning signals the presence of a field boss who'd show up if you stick around, at least that's my speculation.
Seems like lighting charged materials to me
@@lop90ful1 or maybe a item which when thrown causes lightning to hit it
You reckon Alexander is Elden Ring's onion knight?
He definitely has the laugh and the jolly attitude.
He speaks with the same cadence
Congratulations for reaching 200k!
Nice to come back and see how the guess and theories held up!