Two things I forgot to mention: 1. After driving both of these cars neither spoiler was difficult to see around with the camera rear view mirror. The high wing spoiler could be difficult to see around if you're going with a 1LT C8. 2LT or 3LT should be fine 👍🏻 2. The high wing spoiler will definitely make it more difficult to use the trunk since it's mounted behind the hatch. You'll need to consider that if you plan on using the rear storage area often. Sorry for leaving this information out. Thanks for watching!
Both are great! Hope yours comes in soon. I'm waiting for the GS or Z06. I want the handling & think it has enough power for me. Hear alot bout the GS being the sweet spot. My 16 ATSV sedan has a tune that puts 500+ to the wheels and the acceleration is bonkers. Love it & cant wait for the GS
Something else to think about, if you do get the high wing option on your Z51 car, you will end up with two wings, so you can sell the Z51 wing to recoup some of the cost of the high wing option.
A wing is more useful in my opinion since they produce downforce (vs lift as with an airplane) which aids in lateral tire grip at speed. However, That comes at the cost of some (induced) drag, although it's minimal and was likely a cost/benefit decision which favored improved lateral grip at, again, a slight cost in drag. You didn't buy a Prius. :O A spoiler on the other hand is designed to help reduce drag off the rear of the car and thus helps to slightly improve fuel mileage. They do so by controlling the airflow off the rear of the car in such a way that drag is mitigated/reduced. This also aids in fuel mileage to a small degree. Note: One can easily determine whether a device is a wing or a spoiler simply by feeling/looking at the underside of both. A wing will have a distinct curvature being thicker at the front, AKA the 'leading edge', which will get thicker (a distinct curve) as it nears the trailing (aft) edge. So why does that matter? It's simple: The thicker, curved surface toward the leading edge (front of the wing) results in air flowing over it be faster than if it were flat. In this way both the air flowing over the top of the wing will arrive at the rear edge at the same time the air flowing over the bottom will. Note: since the underside of the wing, again, as used on a car in this case, has a curved surface, thus requiring the air flowing over/past it to travel faster than the air flowing over the flat, upper surface of the wing. And in so doing it results in a lower pressure area beneath the wing*. This is important since it also results in downforce since nature abhors a vacuum. Or in this case a partial vacuum. Therefore: Presto! More rear tire grip at speed. Again due to the downforce as a result of a wing that's upside down. *Refer to (as in "Google") Bernoulli's principle if you want to learn more. (That is if you weren't paying attention in high school. >:) Lastly: Once again: it's a wing or a spoiler. There's no such thing as a "low wing or high wing spoiler", a relatively common misunderstanding.
Great video! I saw a video a while back by Tadge (I think) that said the high wing had the same 400 pound downforce as the Z51 wing, but less drag. I also stuck with the Z51 wing on my C8 order because of the dealer install concern, and also the extra challenges getting stuff in/out of the trunk. A nice after-market wing might change my mind!
@@Ltngdrvr It can be removed, and I agree from a looks perspective. But small spoilers do actually help with reducing lift and drag on a car like this so it is not just aesthetics. So if you get the Z51 package that means you plan on doing at least some hard fast driving and you might really want some air management with a car like this. However I am almost certain the larger wing has no practical advantage so it just looks tacky, blocks visibility, trunk access, and costs $1100. If someone is trying to build a track car, there are far better after market options. This just reminds me of the kid with a huge wing on his honda civic.
@@ericmichel3857 Neither wing reduces drag, just the opposite, they increase it, the Corvette engineers have stated this in interviews. The wing is one reason the Z51 cars lose 10 MPH of top speed. And, unless you are going to race your Corvette on a super speedway, you won't be touching those top speeds anyway. And, yes, you can remove the wing, but then you have to make something to fill the holes that are left. As to looks of the wings, if I have to have one wing or the other, I like the high wing much better. But, for me, I'd rather just leave it off all together and wish that was an option for the Z51. Maybe next year...
I personally like them both the problem is I just don’t trust dealers with my car tearing into it like you said leaving scratches or whatever then you got a fight over that with a dealer but I do think the carbon fiber exposed on the 2021 is going to be awesome
I would suggest a video too on the different roof options. I have the clear tinted glass and think it’s fantastic- better than I thought but most people have not chosen it. Everyone comments on mine.
Harlan Charles actually said during an interview that the High wing spoiler has more downforce then the Z 51 wing with LESS drag vs the z51 wing Because it’s much more of a open wing 🤘🏻
It does do that, for me it just seems a bit much for a street car. It just reminds me of kids putting big wings like this on Honda civics, those also look sporty for sure but...
@@mannypee205 What are you talking about? That wing would look dope on the back of my Daewoo! Oh and you can use it to hang your close out to dry, so it is functional too! :)
The High Wing makes it difficult to put golf clubs or things in the trunk. I added winglets to the Z51 wing, looks GREAT & adds additional down force on the track
Two gorgeous cars. I like both. Not sure if its the wing or the color but the red car looks shorter and wider in the aerial view. Great info and comparison. 👍👍
That high wing just seems a bit much IMO. It certainly adds a certain look, kind of like when I see kids slap similar huge spoilers on Honda civics and the like. Something like that on a track car sure, but on a street car it just looks like you are trying to hard. Sort of like 'look at me I driving a race car! :) but you really aren't. I am sure the standard spoiler is more than adequate for street and occasional track use, and if you are really concerned about aerodynamics I am sure there are far better options, perhaps that are adjustable. I understand it is about looks and some just like that look, just like the kid with the honda civic. But for me form should follow function, so I don't like fake vents or completely unnecessarily large wings that hamper trunk access and visibility on a street car. In fact I would have no spoiler at all accept I know that spoilers do actually help with airflow and lift even at highway speeds so... That is why a lot of the really nice exotic hyper cars have a clean look with a spoiler that extends only at speeds where is is helpful.
Both look great, but i am not hearing anyone talk about the biggest problem. With the high wing it is almost impossible to reach over from the back of the car to use the trunk. I have only seen videos of people using the trunk from the sides which is awkward. My question is, why is the wing not attached to the trunk lid. I have seen (see chevy dudes vid, "should GM make this option on the C8 corvette") some aftermarket high wings that do this but you must buy a new rear "fender" to cover up the existing holes. One more thing, shout-out to the "GOAT", Clarence.
I agree. I was hoping that the functionality would incorporate a bit more than just down force and the ability to see behind you. The high wing spoiler definitely looks bad ass, but I would like to take my C8 on road trips. This would entail some luggage. Lifting the luggage over the high wing spoiler seems to have problem written all over it. I opted for the Z51 lower spoiler. As Babe Adams states above, attaching the wing to the deck lid makes perfect sense. If necessary, have a three-piece spoiler. 1 piece mounted to the deck lid and the remaining 2 pieces attached to the rear fender areas. 🤷♂ Just a thought!
I don't want to quote a spec on the two spoilers, but I'll put it out there and just say I'm pretty darn sure that it was on a You Tube video. They were talking to Tadge Juechter who is the executive engineer on the Corvette. It may have been Jay Leno who asked Tadge about the down force on the factory Z51 spoiler and if the high spoiler also made by Chevy, generated higher down force than the lower spoiler. Tadge said that all of the spoilers Chevy manufacturers for the C8 make the same down force (I believe he said 300 lbs of down force from all of their spoilers). I think it was Leno but it could have been someone else?
I own a 24 z06, it has the double duck tail stock spoiler, looks incredible. It will never have an ironing board on posts across the deck, jmho, peace.
Thanks so much for this video! Since I had just bought my C8 Corvette this past weekend, I was really hoping to see a video of two C8's side by side with either option for the high wing and Z51 spoilers for an easier comparison. I'm most certainly going for the high wing option since it will make my C8 look a little more exotic as you've mentioned.
Z51 spoiler is no my favorite wing style but it does look to fit in better then the high wing by far. There is something about the high wing that makes it looks off in the car
Well, my car came with the high wing, so I didn't have a choice.. lol.. it can be difficult to see out it at times, but I think it goes better with this car than the Z51 spoiler... honestly, it's just a personal choice.. can't go wrong with either one. Enjoy!!
It would be nice if they offered the Z51 spoiler without the Z51 pkg.. I like the the high wing in the body color, depending on the car color. I think it looks good in white and the smoke gray
I have a Torch Red Coupe with Z51 Spoiler in Carbon Flash with ACS Wickers in Carbon Flash- looks awesome. The High Wings just does not look right- looks like something you would see on a Subaru owned by an 18 year old.
Would love the vid about tinted glass! I am pro high wing for sure and very hyped about my new Victor racing active wing on it\s way to be mounted! Yas!
When installing the high wing spoiler on a Z51 car that had the Z51 spoiler, does it bolt on directly to the other spoilers holes or do you need to drill the new ones?
Z 51 spoiler is my choice It was never a question in my mind. If I found out that my dealership is going to install it, I would never purchase it. My dealership may not be the worst one but it’s right there at the bottom. If you end up having to have it installed practice your due diligence and check out other Corvettes for which they’ve done the same work, as I said, my dealership lies to me constantly rolls my car back out on the line and says you’re ready only to find out they didn’t fix it or they broke it and they still said it was ready. It may just be my experience with my dealership but it’s not worth taking the chance.
Canadian cost for high wing, $495. My build is identical to Clarence's except I have a transparent roof....matching right down to the belts and calipers.
@@robertboden8406 Going have to disagree. 1st, the C8R spoiler is attached to the hatch. Secondly, 4th Camaro/Trans Am spoilers were attached to the hatch.
Great video on the wing options. It would have been nice if you had a 3rd C8 without any wing to compare all three. My concern is if you get the 4 mounted high wing and decided to do an aftermarket 2 mounted high wing (which would look better IMO), what will happen to the other unused 2 mounted holes? Is it better to just get no spoiler and wait for an aftermarket options?
Love the high wing but was not aware it’s not installed at the factory. Is that still true for 2023. ? I would definitely NOT have it done at the dealership and risk any issues.
C.garner252 is my boi.I like the high wing but I would have ordered z51, no spoiler,white red int. & calipers & bought the zr1 2 mt.wind carbon w/am .Flags on the caps ,sport cats like 717 but w/a valve.Braxton forge alum. 21 " back 20" front polished alum. cores exhaust w/tiger shark tip.pulleys & dress up .
@@cgarnerspeed252 "c" you are the most like myself in the way you worked hard for it.there is beauty in a sock car.leave that one stock & trade the g.s. on a2021 zo6.take care of my car.my. sister used to live I Wilson Lucama area.you are mature beyond your yrs.
My C8 was ordered with no wing or spoiler. The dealer has a Z51 spoiler they are willing to install. Does the rear bumper have to be removed to install the Z51 wing??
The high wing does not produce more downforce, but it is more efficient, as there is less drag. I would imagine that the top speed would be somewhere between the standard Z51 and non Z51. I have it on my car which will be tracked extensively. I also think it looks cooler.
It does in fact produce significantly more downforce which results in lift induced drag or simply 'induced drag'. That said the increase in downforce is what facilitates increased rear tire adhesion and is why it exists in the first place. If neither my post above nor this GM News Article doesn't' convince you then I dont know what else to say. "How the 2019 Corvette ZR1 Makes 950 Pounds of Downforce?" "ZR1’s revised front and rear aerodynamics that turn it into a real track basher. It starts at the nose, where the ZR1 debuts a Corvette-first underwing which Chevy says trickled down from race car world. Air is funneled through a space between the front splitter and closeout panel which generate’s front downforce and helps pinch the air, creating a mild venturi effect which accelerates airflow under the nose (dark blue) and squishes the front tires into the road. You can see how the strakes (turquoise) help guide air through the underwing. Airflow under the car becomes more turbulent aft of the nose as it swirls around the bottom of the engine and the rear transaxle. A rear diffuser wasn’t possible due to the placement of the Corvette’s stock mufflers. The key to the ZR1’s two-hundred-and-something top speed is the standard low rear wing. According to Chevy, the smaller pedestal wing creates 20 percent less drag than the optional adjustable high wing, but still generates more downforce than Z06’s wicker bill spoiler. Serious track shoppers can opt for the available ZTK Performance Pack, which tacks huge endplates onto the front splitter and swaps the low wing for a high mounted version offering five degrees of adjustability. The end plates are creating additional downforce by extending the high-pressure zone (red) further across the front splitter, which also translates to increased pressure (green) climbing up the front fenders. Whereas the standard setup only shows high-pressure downforce creation at the leading edge of the rear spoiler, the high wing shows high to mid-pressure (orange and yellow) downforce creation over a majority of its surface. Lastly, there’s the effect of airflow on the car’s cooling. The ZR1 uses the power steering, differential, and transmission cooling module from the Z06, plus five additional heat exchangers- four of which sit hidden behind the car’s gaping air intakes. The side intakes channel air through the intercoolers and brake ducts before spitting it out fore of the front wheels, helping smooth airflow downstream. Air hitting the middle radiator is funneled through the engine bay and out through the LT5’s top-mounted heat exchanger before being picked up with the rest of the air traveling over the car’s roof. You can also see how the Corvette’s rear quarter panel vents work, air is captured by the vents and forced (yellow) downwards towards the transmission and differential coolers."
can you get the z51 package without any spoiler? I would want everything except the spoiler in that package and then just wait to get an after market wing in a year or two. The c8R has a really badass looking wing for instance and i can imagine in a few years there will be something similar for consumers.
Can someone help me? I recently got quoted for this car, but I was not given an option for a high wing. Did they get rid of this option, or do you have to ask the dealership?
High wing seems more muscle car, Z51 wing seems more exotic car. Depends which look you are going for. I ordered mine with the Z51. My question is will I ever get it!!!???
So it has clarified: a wing has an impact on a car's downforce and low drag. Hope this settles it. In your top car wing brands, is Victor Racing also there?
Awaiting My 7th Torch Red Corvette-Will wait for A better looking High Wing from ACS or one of the other great aftermarket companies. This one is just okay- certainly better than the ugly ZR1, but is going to cause maintenance and access issues ..
All these ricers out here want the big wing, and some people saying nothing should be there. Obviously, the Z51 spoiler blacked out is the best option. Definitely not just an opinion.
Having 4 mounting points puts less stress on the wing, and more stability. The ends of the wing won't flex or bend from the down-force... especially as speeds increase and you are putting hundred of pounds of down-force on the wing. Can you imagine a 150 lb. person sitting on the end of a ZR1 wing..? Or 2 150 lb. people sitting on opposite ends..? With the C8 High-Wing, the ends will not have such concerns, nor will it 'buffet' in cross-winds or high-speed extremes. IF I went with a high wing... I would prefer the 4 points, or move the 2 points further apart -- something like at the inside edges of the tail-lights -- to support the wing in a more rigged way.
So who takes the factory Z51 wing after you get the high wing installed? Same question goes for the wheels...Seen people taking cars to the dearlership to get the black wheels. I prefer the factory Z51 wing...The 4 legged wing does not look right with the car....
I think that the car looks better without the factory installed spoiler. I like the z51 package without the spoiler. Id have the dealership take it off. Its the hi wing or nothing.
Neither spoiler is worth it unless you live at the track! The Z51 spoiler loads the car down with Drag and 400 lbs of down force. The high wing has no drag just down force. If the car isn't going the spend most of it's life above 140 mph you don't. Need either!
Two things I forgot to mention:
1. After driving both of these cars neither spoiler was difficult to see around with the camera rear view mirror. The high wing spoiler could be difficult to see around if you're going with a 1LT C8. 2LT or 3LT should be fine 👍🏻
2. The high wing spoiler will definitely make it more difficult to use the trunk since it's mounted behind the hatch. You'll need to consider that if you plan on using the rear storage area often.
Sorry for leaving this information out. Thanks for watching!
Both are great! Hope yours comes in soon. I'm waiting for the GS or Z06. I want the handling & think it has enough power for me. Hear alot bout the GS being the sweet spot.
My 16 ATSV sedan has a tune that puts 500+ to the wheels and the acceleration is bonkers. Love it & cant wait for the GS
I don’t see the wing on the website
The high wing is much easier to have dinner on.
I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT!😂
Z51 all the way !!
Something else to think about, if you do get the high wing option on your Z51 car, you will end up with two wings, so you can sell the Z51 wing to recoup some of the cost of the high wing option.
True. Good point 👍🏻
A wing is more useful in my opinion since they produce downforce (vs lift as with an airplane) which aids in lateral tire grip at speed. However, That comes at the cost of some (induced) drag, although it's minimal and was likely a cost/benefit decision which favored improved lateral grip at, again, a slight cost in drag. You didn't buy a Prius. :O
A spoiler on the other hand is designed to help reduce drag off the rear of the car and thus helps to slightly improve fuel mileage. They do so by controlling the airflow off the rear of the car in such a way that drag is mitigated/reduced. This also aids in fuel mileage to a small degree.
Note: One can easily determine whether a device is a wing or a spoiler simply by feeling/looking at the underside of both. A wing will have a distinct curvature being thicker at the front, AKA the 'leading edge', which will get thicker (a distinct curve) as it nears the trailing (aft) edge.
So why does that matter? It's simple: The thicker, curved surface toward the leading edge (front of the wing) results in air flowing over it be faster than if it were flat. In this way both the air flowing over the top of the wing will arrive at the rear edge at the same time the air flowing over the bottom will.
Note: since the underside of the wing, again, as used on a car in this case, has a curved surface, thus requiring the air flowing over/past it to travel faster than the air flowing over the flat, upper surface of the wing. And in so doing it results in a lower pressure area beneath the wing*. This is important since it also results in downforce since nature abhors a vacuum. Or in this case a partial vacuum. Therefore: Presto! More rear tire grip at speed. Again due to the downforce as a result of a wing that's upside down.
*Refer to (as in "Google") Bernoulli's principle if you want to learn more. (That is if you weren't paying attention in high school. >:)
Lastly: Once again: it's a wing or a spoiler. There's no such thing as a "low wing or high wing spoiler", a relatively common misunderstanding.
I like the low-keyness of the Z51 spoiler best. I like the carbon flash as opposed to body color matching 😁
Great video! I saw a video a while back by Tadge (I think) that said the high wing had the same 400 pound downforce as the Z51 wing, but less drag. I also stuck with the Z51 wing on my C8 order because of the dealer install concern, and also the extra challenges getting stuff in/out of the trunk. A nice after-market wing might change my mind!
I think No Wing is the best option.
RomanticPopPunk totally agree with you because without the wing the car will be sleek
Yeah, no wing looks so smooth. Too bad there is no spoiler delete option with the Z51 package.
@@Ltngdrvr It can be removed, and I agree from a looks perspective. But small spoilers do actually help with reducing lift and drag on a car like this so it is not just aesthetics. So if you get the Z51 package that means you plan on doing at least some hard fast driving and you might really want some air management with a car like this. However I am almost certain the larger wing has no practical advantage so it just looks tacky, blocks visibility, trunk access, and costs $1100. If someone is trying to build a track car, there are far better after market options. This just reminds me of the kid with a huge wing on his honda civic.
@@ericmichel3857 Neither wing reduces drag, just the opposite, they increase it, the Corvette engineers have stated this in interviews. The wing is one reason the Z51 cars lose 10 MPH of top speed. And, unless you are going to race your Corvette on a super speedway, you won't be touching those top speeds anyway. And, yes, you can remove the wing, but then you have to make something to fill the holes that are left. As to looks of the wings, if I have to have one wing or the other, I like the high wing much better. But, for me, I'd rather just leave it off all together and wish that was an option for the Z51. Maybe next year...
I agree, the spoiler delete is my favorite wing.
I personally like them both the problem is I just don’t trust dealers with my car tearing into it like you said leaving scratches or whatever then you got a fight over that with a dealer but I do think the carbon fiber exposed on the 2021 is going to be awesome
I am glad that I will buy a fully loaded C8 3LT with Z51, high wing spoiler and museum delivery anyway.
Hell ya man
Nice video! That high quality content🤙🏼
Thank you for the shoutout!
No problem man 👍🏻 Thank you.
I would suggest a video too on the different roof options. I have the clear tinted glass and think it’s fantastic- better than I thought but most people have not chosen it. Everyone comments on mine.
High wing is supposed to have more downforce with less drag! Still have yet to see one.
Looks awesome in person 👍🏻
Same downforce, less drag
I prefer the Z51 spoiler, I like that because it’s a little bit more subtle.
Harlan Charles actually said during an interview that the High wing spoiler has more downforce then the Z 51 wing with LESS drag vs the z51 wing Because it’s much more of a open wing 🤘🏻
That's awesome 👍🏻 Thanks for sharing that info!
Cars, Costs and Technology I’m a vette nerd/salesmen lol 😂 thanks for all the great content as well !
@@MrMaverickz28 salesmen ~
Z51, fits it perfectly
High wing all day, makes it look more sporty
Not only that but the color helps a lot as well as the wheels. Not a fan of black wheels and orange
It does do that, for me it just seems a bit much for a street car. It just reminds me of kids putting big wings like this on Honda civics, those also look sporty for sure but...
@@ericmichel3857 it fits the c8 corvette , on a Honda it dont so it depends on the car
@@mannypee205 What are you talking about? That wing would look dope on the back of my Daewoo!
Oh and you can use it to hang your close out to dry, so it is functional too! :)
@@ericmichel3857 that wing alone cost a third of a Honda, not the best to compare the two
The High Wing makes it difficult to put golf clubs or things in the trunk.
I added winglets to the Z51 wing, looks GREAT & adds additional down force on the track
I just love the big wing vibe, so I opted for VictorRacing stat wing, really happy with results.
I have the high wing spoiler on my 2024 z51 and love it.❤❤
High wing with carbon flash is what I ordered, I'm at 3000 status
vip_supercars how much did the car cost total?
@@dylancoric3734 $71,570
I don’t even see the high wing on the build and price website. Can anybody help me with that. Can u get it on the 2021 model
Two gorgeous cars. I like both. Not sure if its the wing or the color but the red car looks shorter and wider in the aerial view.
Great info and comparison. 👍👍
Thanks man 👍🏻 The high wing definitely looks more exotic and aggressive in person.
That high wing just seems a bit much IMO. It certainly adds a certain look, kind of like when I see kids slap similar huge spoilers on Honda civics and the like. Something like that on a track car sure, but on a street car it just looks like you are trying to hard. Sort of like 'look at me I driving a race car! :) but you really aren't. I am sure the standard spoiler is more than adequate for street and occasional track use, and if you are really concerned about aerodynamics I am sure there are far better options, perhaps that are adjustable.
I understand it is about looks and some just like that look, just like the kid with the honda civic. But for me form should follow function, so I don't like fake vents or completely unnecessarily large wings that hamper trunk access and visibility on a street car. In fact I would have no spoiler at all accept I know that spoilers do actually help with airflow and lift even at highway speeds so... That is why a lot of the really nice exotic hyper cars have a clean look with a spoiler that extends only at speeds where is is helpful.
I love how much performance is better sinc I got victor racing wing installed and the carbon fiber is top quality six layered.
Both look great, but i am not hearing anyone talk about the biggest problem. With the high wing it is almost impossible to reach over from the back of the car to use the trunk. I have only seen videos of people using the trunk from the sides which is awkward. My question is, why is the wing not attached to the trunk lid. I have seen (see chevy dudes vid, "should GM make this option on the C8 corvette") some aftermarket high wings that do this but you must buy a new rear "fender" to cover up the existing holes.
One more thing, shout-out to the "GOAT", Clarence.
I agree. I was hoping that the functionality would incorporate a bit more than just down force and the ability to see behind you. The high wing spoiler definitely looks bad ass, but I would like to take my C8 on road trips. This would entail some luggage. Lifting the luggage over the high wing spoiler seems to have problem written all over it. I opted for the Z51 lower spoiler.
As Babe Adams states above, attaching the wing to the deck lid makes perfect sense. If necessary, have a three-piece spoiler. 1 piece mounted to the deck lid and the remaining 2 pieces attached to the rear fender areas. 🤷♂ Just a thought!
I don't want to quote a spec on the two spoilers, but I'll put it out there and just say I'm pretty darn sure that it was on a You Tube video. They were talking to Tadge Juechter who is the executive engineer on the Corvette. It may have been Jay Leno who asked Tadge about the down force on the factory Z51 spoiler and if the high spoiler also made by Chevy, generated higher down force than the lower spoiler. Tadge said that all of the spoilers Chevy manufacturers for the C8 make the same down force (I believe he said 300 lbs of down force from all of their spoilers). I think it was Leno but it could have been someone else?
High wing all the way! ALways stoked to see active ones from Victor Racing 🥵🥵🥵
Z51 spoiler in carbon flash for me😍🔥
Thank you very much for adding this info.
Default looks good Good video ...I love my 2020 Corvette stingray spider with 3LT Z-51 package 🔥 content coming to our channel with this car build
Hi wing looks like Harbor Freight part and makes it waaaaay to hard to get in trunk .
KCImages agreed! Does not look proportional
I plan on trying to order a 2021 and I prefer the standard Z51 spoiler but I'm 58 years old and the high wing looks a little too exotic for me.
I own a 24 z06, it has the double duck tail stock spoiler, looks incredible. It will never have an ironing board on posts across the deck, jmho, peace.
Thanks so much for this video! Since I had just bought my C8 Corvette this past weekend, I was really hoping to see a video of two C8's side by side with either option for the high wing and Z51 spoilers for an easier comparison. I'm most certainly going for the high wing option since it will make my C8 look a little more exotic as you've mentioned.
I have the high wing on my CMG 2020 and it’s so good looking!
@@SandyGClifton Ooh, I bet! I'm sorta guessing CMG=Ceramic Matrix Grey? Had to think about that for a second haha
Usually prefer spoilers over wings, but I think the wing looks great on C8.
Z51 spoiler is no my favorite wing style but it does look to fit in better then the high wing by far. There is something about the high wing that makes it looks off in the car
Well, my car came with the high wing, so I didn't have a choice.. lol.. it can be difficult to see out it at times, but I think it goes better with this car than the Z51 spoiler... honestly, it's just a personal choice.. can't go wrong with either one. Enjoy!!
It would be nice if they offered the Z51 spoiler without the Z51 pkg.. I like the the high wing in the body color, depending on the car color. I think it looks good in white and the smoke gray
I have a Torch Red Coupe with Z51 Spoiler in Carbon Flash with ACS Wickers in Carbon Flash- looks awesome. The High Wings just does not look right- looks like something you would see on a Subaru owned by an 18 year old.
Would love the vid about tinted glass! I am pro high wing for sure and very hyped about my new Victor racing active wing on it\s way to be mounted! Yas!
When installing the high wing spoiler on a Z51 car that had the Z51 spoiler, does it bolt on directly to the other spoilers holes or do you need to drill the new ones?
Z 51 spoiler is my choice It was never a question in my mind. If I found out that my dealership is going to install it, I would never purchase it. My dealership may not be the worst one but it’s right there at the bottom. If you end up having to have it installed practice your due diligence and check out other Corvettes for which they’ve done the same work, as I said, my dealership lies to me constantly rolls my car back out on the line and says you’re ready only to find out they didn’t fix it or they broke it and they still said it was ready. It may just be my experience with my dealership but it’s not worth taking the chance.
Red high wing on red car. So by side wire made the easy choice. Thank you.
Canadian cost for high wing, $495. My build is identical to Clarence's except I have a transparent roof....matching right down to the belts and calipers.
High wing all day!
The one thing I don't understand is why the spoilers weren't designed to be mounted on the hatch. Would certainly make more sense.
Billy Morgan they provide downforce. Several hundred pounds of it at speed, wouldn’t be nice to have that on a hatch
Right much easier
@@robertboden8406 Going have to disagree. 1st, the C8R spoiler is attached to the hatch. Secondly, 4th Camaro/Trans Am spoilers were attached to the hatch.
Nicely done ✅ thank u ⭐️
Great video on the wing options. It would have been nice if you had a 3rd C8 without any wing to compare all three. My concern is if you get the 4 mounted high wing and decided to do an aftermarket 2 mounted high wing (which would look better IMO), what will happen to the other unused 2 mounted holes? Is it better to just get no spoiler and wait for an aftermarket options?
That's a good point. Personal preference really. Z51 spoiler comes installed standard with Z51 though. Keep that in mind.
Without a doubt the red one is 💯👌 better looking
I love Torch Red 🔥
Love the high wing but was not aware it’s not installed at the factory. Is that still true for 2023. ?
I would definitely NOT have it done at the dealership and risk any issues.
The most exotic look is the z51 wing that comes with the package. More is less... more is less!!!
I got my Z51 Cabot flash but will replace with high wing later
C.garner252 is my boi.I like the high wing but I would have ordered z51, no spoiler,white red int. & calipers & bought the zr1 2 mt.wind carbon w/am .Flags on the caps ,sport cats like 717 but w/a valve.Braxton forge alum. 21 " back 20" front polished alum. cores exhaust w/tiger shark tip.pulleys & dress up .
Richard Morris lol thank you!
@@cgarnerspeed252 "c" you are the most like myself in the way you worked hard for it.there is beauty in a sock car.leave that one stock & trade the g.s. on a2021 zo6.take care of my car.my. sister used to live I Wilson Lucama area.you are mature beyond your yrs.
My C8 was ordered with no wing or spoiler. The dealer has a Z51 spoiler they are willing to install. Does the rear bumper have to be removed to install the Z51 wing??
The high wing does not produce more downforce, but it is more efficient, as there is less drag. I would imagine that the top speed would be somewhere between the standard Z51 and non Z51. I have it on my car which will be tracked extensively. I also think it looks cooler.
It does in fact produce significantly more downforce which results in lift induced drag or simply 'induced drag'. That said the increase in downforce is what facilitates increased rear tire adhesion and is why it exists in the first place.
If neither my post above nor this GM News Article doesn't' convince you then I dont know what else to say.
"How the 2019 Corvette ZR1 Makes 950 Pounds of Downforce?"
"ZR1’s revised front and rear aerodynamics that turn it into a real track basher.
It starts at the nose, where the ZR1 debuts a Corvette-first underwing which Chevy says trickled down from race car world. Air is funneled through a space between the front splitter and closeout panel which generate’s front downforce and helps pinch the air, creating a mild venturi effect which accelerates airflow under the nose (dark blue) and squishes the front tires into the road. You can see how the strakes (turquoise) help guide air through the underwing.
Airflow under the car becomes more turbulent aft of the nose as it swirls around the bottom of the engine and the rear transaxle. A rear diffuser wasn’t possible due to the placement of the Corvette’s stock mufflers.
The key to the ZR1’s two-hundred-and-something top speed is the standard low rear wing. According to Chevy, the smaller pedestal wing creates 20 percent less drag than the optional adjustable high wing, but still generates more downforce than Z06’s wicker bill spoiler.
Serious track shoppers can opt for the available ZTK Performance Pack, which tacks huge endplates onto the front splitter and swaps the low wing for a high mounted version offering five degrees of adjustability. The end plates are creating additional downforce by extending the high-pressure zone (red) further across the front splitter, which also translates to increased pressure (green) climbing up the front fenders.
Whereas the standard setup only shows high-pressure downforce creation at the leading edge of the rear spoiler, the high wing shows high to mid-pressure (orange and yellow) downforce creation over a majority of its surface.
Lastly, there’s the effect of airflow on the car’s cooling. The ZR1 uses the power steering, differential, and transmission cooling module from the Z06, plus five additional heat exchangers- four of which sit hidden behind the car’s gaping air intakes. The side intakes channel air through the intercoolers and brake ducts before spitting it out fore of the front wheels, helping smooth airflow downstream. Air hitting the middle radiator is funneled through the engine bay and out through the LT5’s top-mounted heat exchanger before being picked up with the rest of the air traveling over the car’s roof.
You can also see how the Corvette’s rear quarter panel vents work, air is captured by the vents and forced (yellow) downwards towards the transmission and differential coolers."
I cannot take ANY high wing spoiler seriously... they all remind me of Civics driven by high school boys trying WAAAAY TOO HARD.
Neither! No spoiler on mine...
Wanna go *Cha Cha Real Smooth* on yours eh? looking sleek?
i love the torch red
can you get the z51 package without any spoiler? I would want everything except the spoiler in that package and then just wait to get an after market wing in a year or two. The c8R has a really badass looking wing for instance and i can imagine in a few years there will be something similar for consumers.
Good question. I don't think so.
I don’t think so, but I wouldn’t think it would be to hard to take off once u get it I wouldn’t think
From where you can choose your c8 options ??
Can someone help me? I recently got quoted for this car, but I was not given an option for a high wing. Did they get rid of this option, or do you have to ask the dealership?
The high-wing looks way cooler IMHO.
High wing seems more muscle car, Z51 wing seems more exotic car. Depends which look you are going for. I ordered mine with the Z51. My question is will I ever get it!!!???
With No wing at all, looks like a super car
So it has clarified: a wing has an impact on a car's downforce and low drag. Hope this settles it. In your top car wing brands, is Victor Racing also there?
I don’t see the wing on the website
I’ll go with regular spoiler.
Do either of these cars have any paint protection films.......xpel or suntek?
No I don't think so. Not that I was able to see. I didn't confirm that with the owners though.
@@CarsCostsandTechnology Are you going to PPF your car?
Z51 in carbon flash please. It doesn’t look like it’s after market.
I agree 👍🏻
Awaiting My 7th Torch Red Corvette-Will wait for A better looking High Wing from ACS or one of the other great aftermarket companies. This one is just okay- certainly better than the ugly ZR1, but is going to cause maintenance and access issues ..
Have you seen a C8 convertible with high wing yet?
Not yet other than the online visualizer. I think it will look really good though 👍🏻
I am more of High wing fan, VR looks great.
Z51 spoiler all day
All these ricers out here want the big wing, and some people saying nothing should be there. Obviously, the Z51 spoiler blacked out is the best option. Definitely not just an opinion.
Its definitely just an noviciate opinion.
Having 4 mounting points puts less stress on the wing, and more stability. The ends of the wing won't flex or bend from the down-force... especially as speeds increase and you are putting hundred of pounds of down-force on the wing. Can you imagine a 150 lb. person sitting on the end of a ZR1 wing..? Or 2 150 lb. people sitting on opposite ends..? With the C8 High-Wing, the ends will not have such concerns, nor will it 'buffet' in cross-winds or high-speed extremes. IF I went with a high wing... I would prefer the 4 points, or move the 2 points further apart -- something like at the inside edges of the tail-lights -- to support the wing in a more rigged way.
Why do faster cars have the traditional 2 mount wings then? Even the C8 R has a 2 mounted wing.
very cool video
So who takes the factory Z51 wing after you get the high wing installed?
Same question goes for the wheels...Seen people taking cars to the dearlership to get the black wheels.
I prefer the factory Z51 wing...The 4 legged wing does not look right with the car....
We gotta take what we can get!
high wing , less drag , ( slightly) more downforce , high wing allthe way
Is this in North Carolina?
Yep 👍🏻
Great video. Will the 2022 c8 come with high wing spoiler installed? Or is it still come thing that needs to be installed separately?
When I saw your title, I said "Great. Now I'll be able to see how much they obstruct the rear view from the driver's seat" Well, that didn't happen.
I’m opting for no spoiler. I prefer clean lines.
You know what looks great! NO wing. Makes the car look classy. Like a McLaren.
No wing is best! Just add performance exhaust ,,,and you still got 495 HP! Unless you plan on tracking it.
Good point. No wing does look pretty clean.
I'd like to see a lip spoiler on that bad boy.
you cant just order and spoiler without conditions. No front splitter with high wing and no z51 spoiler without a z51 package.
High wing if Bowling Green installs it.
Same here.
Found the Tadge video. Start at 1:14
th-cam.com/video/HWornGyAF9M/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for sharing this 👍🏼
nothing of the 2 i put the new lo spoiler
I prefer NO spoiler looks more exotic
Those exhaust Forsure ain’t stock 😂
High wing all day, makes it look amazing
Z51 Spoiler looks better
Aesthetically, I'd love to see the z51 spoiler without the middle bit. (split rear spoiler)
High wing
high wing is supposed to have less drag
I think that the car looks better without the factory installed spoiler. I like the z51 package without the spoiler. Id have the dealership take it off.
Its the hi wing or nothing.
Z51 Spoiler
It needs a nascar style ducktail spoiler. It would look much more balanced and not disrupt the lines of the car like these two options.
Neither spoiler is worth it unless you live at the track! The Z51 spoiler loads the car down with Drag and 400 lbs of down force. The high wing has no drag just down force. If the car isn't going the spend most of it's life above 140 mph you don't. Need either!
Can't have down force without drag. Lift or down force creates drag.
I don’t think you know what you are talking about
A Porsche