Exploring Freemasonry, Joseph Smith, and Temple Connections
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- Join Casey Griffiths as he explores the Salt Lake Masonic Temple with Freemason Lon Tibbitts and explores the connections between Freemasonry and Latter-day Saint Temple ordinances.
Learn more with Casey's podcast interview with Lon here:
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My Dad was a Mason and always wore the ring..
HE WAS a Methodist and we were LDS.. He was the most compassionate man I ever knew in my life.. He joined the LDS church in 1996.. One story my Mom always told was back in the day when my oldest brother was a baby .. They were driving on vacation and broke down on side of the road ..
my dad got out and walked about a 1/2 mile or so and after about an hour came back with help
My mom questioned him and he told her he had used a hand gesture that stopped another Mason brother and he came to his side..
I’ll never forget that story ..
What a cool story.
Thats awoseme...
My friend had a similar story. He and his dad broke down in Alabama in the 1960s They were black. His dad stepped beside the car and did a sign and multiple cars stopped to help that were white and the car was fixed at no cost and they were safe and were able to continue their drive to Florida.
@@missanthrope2 supposedly to be a 33rd degree you choose satan/lucifer..you have a choice to take the skeleton hand and follow evil and do a allegedly human sacrifice or stay at 32nd degree forever.
Allegedly have children for ritual purposes in their buildings
Why secret help ?
Man this is amazing…as a member of the Church and as a Mason I love this so much…Most Worshipful Brother Lon is an amazing man and I’m grateful to know him personally!
@@benmartinez-dc4mk wait, but can woman join freemasonry or not?
@@lucasdiaz9210 No women can’t join Freemasonry. It’s a fraternity for men. There is OES Order of the Eastern Star. The lady would have to be related to a mason in order to join.
Why most worshipful brother?I thought jesus christ said thou shall have no other god before him 😮
@@lucasdiaz9210 Freemasony is like the Priesthood. Boys only club.
This is hilarious larping
This was so helpful to me, I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, serving a Mission at Church Headquarters. I was born in England and had a father who was a 33rd Degree Mason. My father knew nothing of the church. I was converted in California 35 years ago. As it was considered a secret organization. he never spoke about it. All I remember is that his Lodge of Instruction meetings were Monday nights. I remember seeing his regalia and his white robe with the red cross on it , his red velvet cap and his sword, I thing that was Knights of Malta. It was not until he died suddenly at 45 years of age and his funeral was attended by over 350 men and women I had never seen before that I realized what it actually must have meant to him. I would so love a tour of this building and to learn more whilst I am here in Salt Lake City. Thank you again for this amazing presentation.
so you don/t mind that JOSEPH SMITH murdered people the day he was killed in a jail cell? wow - you people are really blind. you don't bother to seek truth you just believe any old lie they tell you
Freemason not Christians
@@faithreturns333 self defense
I’m a M.M. For 60 years a member at Friendship Lodge 247 F&AM in PA , it is always a pleasure to learn more about other Masonic bodies, and their associations. John M. Barden
Because he worshipped the devil.
Jesus Christ is the only way Jesus Christ is 👑
@@charleneguye2258 amen
AMEN.
As most Freemasons are faithful Christians, most Freemasons therefore agree with this statement.
@@BrandonCole_edohia "Christian" means Christ Like. And refusing to proclaim Jesus Christ as the one true Savior disqualifies anyone from calling themselves quote Christian.
@@charleneguye2258 6 Wherefore, redemption cometh in and through the Holy Messiah; for he is full of grace and truth. 7 Behold, he offereth himself a sacrifice for sin, to answer the ends of the law, unto all those who have a broken heart and a contrite spirit; and unto none else can the ends of the law be answered
As a Latter-day Saint mason, I’ve found member of both organizations curious about each other, but with the same questions overlapping about secrecy and “what actually goes on in there”
But I’ve told each that my experience in masonry and in the temple enhances the other. One leads to salvation but both help me to be a better member of society and to be mindful of my fellow man.
🌹🌿 The Egyptian Statues, at the front of the Freemason Lodge are interesting. Considering that there are Freemason Symbols in the Egyptian Hieroglyphs. The King James Bible was Translated from Aramaic Egyptian ♀️ Hebrew and Greek. And The Book of Mormon is Translated from Reformed Egyptian ♀️
Nice to see a fellow Latter-day Saint Mason on here. My experiences mirror yours that you've described here.
Greetings from Saint George Lodge No. 33, F&AM of Utah. 🙂
@@BrandonCole_edohi Hopefully I’ll find myself your direction but if you’re in west Texas, come visit Midland Centennial Lodge No. 1448, Grand Lodge of Texas AF&AM
As an active member of the Church and as a Mason who has served as the Master of my lodge and as a district deputy of the Grand Master in the state of Idaho I can say truthful this is the best post I have seen on the explanation of the craft in relationship to the Church
@@IBNED Agreed. 😃
As an LDS, and a Freemason, i enjoyed seeing the various rooms of the Grand Lodge of Utah. I reside in another state. I appreciate the format of the video, and it was great to have a former LDS bishop who is also a Scottish Rite and York Rite Mason serve as tour guide. Well done.
Freemasonry is from satan!
The entrance to Solomon’s Temple was majestically flanked by two significant pillars, Jachin and Boaz, symbolizing strength and establishment. Jachin, situated on the right, signifies “He will establish,” while Boaz, positioned on the left, signifies “In Him is strength.” These pillars are not merely structural elements but profound symbols in Masonic tradition, representing foundational principles that inculcate stability and support within the Masonic teachings and allegories.
Inculcate means to instill or teach an idea, attitude, or habit by persistent instruction. It involves repeatedly and consistently embedding a particular value, belief, or knowledge into someone's mind or behavior.
What does Solomon's temple have to do with greemasonry?
@@dvdortiz9031- mayson narrative has it that the first of their kind stole ideas from Solomon's temple. This secret combination has always been a counterfeit... and yet church members desire to still be a part of it.
My father is a mason! I’ve been a member of Job’s Daughters since 2013 and it has been the greatest part of my life 🩷
Lon is a great man and good friend of my family, any question I’ve had about masonry or the Salt Lake Masonic Temple, he always has the perfect answer and gives it in a way that an outsider can understand!
Enjoy the pe-dos. The fact that you say is the best part of your life says it all.
Nice video. I am an LDS Freemason in Utah, and I have been in that building many times, but it still amazes and delights me to see or hear about some detail that had escaped me in the past. I too feel like Masonry has enhanced my church worship, and edified me as a person trying to be more like Jesus Christ. I'm grateful for many of the wonderful non-LDS Masons in our state, some of whom have become some of my best friends. It's truly a wonderful organization with amazing history (both connected to the early LDS Church and in Europe), and impressive and sacred rituals and secrets which are calculated to bring out the best in a man in THIS life--without making any theological statements about salvation or exaltation in the NEXT life, the way my religion and LDS temple worship does.
So what you are saying is - being a part of this group Supplements the truth you find in the gospel and helps you to waste your time on less than eternal truth... thus helping in your wasting your most precious resource - your time? Time you could be spending living your covenants, serving others and using your real priesthood? Well done beta male.
@@Jeanie-nv7lo Heber C Kimball said it the best "I wish that all men were masons and would live up to their profession, then the world would be in a much better state than it is now.” Whitney, Orson F. (1888). Life of Heber C. Kimball: Apostle, Father and Founder of the British Mission. Salt Lake City, Utah: Kimball Family. p. 27.
Whats with Albert Pike, is that a secret too?
@@MichaelBurk-sj1tw Albert Pike was a man; not a secret. He was a great thinker and highly educated, and was highly influential on the form and substance of the Scottish Rite. He is thus generally held in high esteem by Freemasons (especially Scottish Rite Masons), and why a bust of him can be seen in the grand hall in the Utah temple. Some people accuse Pike of weird things like Luciferianism, but those claims are entirely baseless, and come from a misreading out of context of half of a particular paragraph in his book Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, which I have next to me on my shelf right now.
@Aldrnari - well there goes yours and your supposed maysonic good name. Albert Pike was an evil man according to his own words.
This was a very interesting video to watch! I was a latter-day saint from 2019-late 2022 And my biggest catalyst for leaving was actually the temple endowment and Joseph Smith being a mason. Although I still have some of the same thoughts, if not all of them that I did then, this was a very helpful video to understand the differences between the faith and the fraternity
Come back
One thing that might be helpful to remember is that just because we don't have all the answers, doesn't mean we should throw away the things we have received answers to. If you have a bowl of various fruits that you like and don't like, are you going to throw away the whole bowl? No, you're probably going to keep the fruit that you do like and enjoy those. Same concept. God wants you back. We want you back. You are part of us and I don't have to know you to say that to you and to know it is true. Please think it over. :)
Their is an enormous need for people to seek discernment. The Latter Day Saint church is the restored Church of Jesus Christ but all members should seek a spirit of discernment through the Holy Ghost.
One thing to think about, also, is that the Book of Mormon is filled with symbolism that is also represented in the Endowment. He could have learned much about the Endowment's contents before he was even involved in Masonry to begin with.
Turn to Jesus Christ! God bless you!
As someone who is always curious about different belief systems and traditions, this video was incredibly enlightening for me. It was fascinating to see the parallels between Freemasonry and Latter-day Saint Temple ordinances and how they both emphasize principles of morality and spirituality.
Learning about the rich history and symbolism within the Salt Lake Masonic Temple was truly eye-opening. I appreciate the opportunity to gain a deeper understanding of these interconnected traditions and how they contribute to the spiritual growth and enlightenment of their members.
Thank you for sharing this insightful exploration, it has provided me with a new perspective and appreciation for the diversity of spiritual practices in the world.
Great insight!
As a Master Mason , 32degree Scottish Rite Mason and a Noble in the Shrine that was very well worded !!!! Wonderful video !!!!
But it puts you squarely at odds with the one True God. I’m shocked this guy could be a Christian, yet pledge himself to a polytheistic secret society. Jesus didn’t die to give us 31 different flavors of salvation. I just think a TRUE Christian needs to spend some time in the first 5 books of the Bible to see how God feels about all this.
@productamadeus8745 Masonry isn't a religion, it isn't a form of salvation. It's a fraternity for men of all faiths , which is why any religious aspect of it is very basic and kept to a minimum. You are speaking about a topic of which you have absolutely no first hand knowledge of!!! Perhaps you should join the fraternity before you jump to uneducated conclusions!!!!
@@andrewevans1658 The fraternity is insignificant. This is about whether a Christian who is in dwelt by the Holy Spirit should pledge himself to a Universalist institution. My fraternity is infinitely more powerful than men playing silly secret games like it’s the 1500’s. People don’t need secret truths. They need to repent of their sins and put their faith in Christ.
@@productamadeus8745 they easily go hand in hand!! It has for centuries and will continue for centuries to come !!! Please feel free to keep hiding in your tiny bubble rather than seeking enlightenment and education!
@@andrewevans1658 enlightenment??? Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 5:36-37 -
Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.
Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us
Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us
All you holy angels and saints of heaven, pray for us
In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, AMEN✝️
@@owenwagner7386 I freaked out when during the LDS endowment I had to swear to allow my tongue being ripped out by the roots if I divulged info.
@@jennydiez8020Really that happened ? I haven't done it yet. Now I'm confused.
My grandfather was a mason, ex Air Force pilot, and his career was an air traffic controller. He was heavily religious but I don’t know exactly what sect. He did go as far as practicing poisonous snake handling while everyone mumbles in tongues! He was a very caring man who would pick up hitchhikers and bring them to his home to feed them and let them sleep. This was in the 60s and 70s. He also usually lived on farmland and would offer them a job if he felt they weren’t dangerous. Sorry to ramble but this just made me think of him for the short time I knew him.
Psalm 2 is directed to freemasonry
Thank you for this informative piece. It answered many questions I have had about these two organizations.
Great insight. I was a missionary with Lon in Scotland back in the mid 1970’s. He has always been an inspirational person.
The auditorium has also been used for public music events. Many of us have been in there to attend the Christmas concerts of the music group The Lower Lights for several years. It's a beautiful space.
Thank you, thoughtfully and sensitively presented. 👍
The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.
@zon3665 - amen. This video is misleading and this secret society has nothing to do with our temple covenants and the revealed truth of the gospel. Disgusting that scripture central Would even consider this - unless one of them is a free maayson. Which would explain the love fest happening in the video.
@@Jeanie-nv7lo I'm afraid you're incorrect.
Sensitive so truth does not matter you?
@Jeanie-nv7lo secret handshakes temple? Lions paw is sure sign nail. Bill Schnoblien has great video as he Lds and Mason Temple of undoomed
Excellent presentation and information. Thank you :)
Master Masons can become Shriners. Shriner's Hospitals are one of the finest charitable organizations on earth. Our oldest son was born with multiple birth defects and had many surgeries at Shriner's Hospitals in South Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Utah. My wife and I appreciated the world-class health care, but even more importantly, we loved how the Shriner's system made our son feel important and empowered. Our experience has been that Masons and Shriners are exemplary human beings.
Hi Bro. Magleby! I had the opportunity to make cloth masks/mask covers for Shriners during that part of 2020. It was cool seeing all the symbols when I dropped them off, though I didn't know their meanings. I love that there are so many people out doing good in the world and that your family was able to benefit from this system as well.
Heber C Kimball said it the best "I wish that all men were masons and would live up to their profession, then the world would be in a much better state than it is now.” Whitney, Orson F. (1888). Life of Heber C. Kimball: Apostle, Father and Founder of the British Mission. Salt Lake City, Utah: Kimball Family. p. 27.
They pledge alliance to their lodge etc but as a Christian our alliance is only to Jesus and God, no man.
So you never pledge allegiance to the U.S. flag and the U.S. republic
Jesus bit me!
You should not swear oaths at alter at 4.42 I see pentagram inverted on left of course
The only religion I know of that believes that are Jehovah Witnesses. As far as I know, all other biblical and Christian religions don’t see allegiance and worship as synonymous. Christ himself paid taxes to Rome, it is not contradictory to ally yourself with a body as long as it does not go against gospel principles.
@@uraniumu242 no that's not normal I'm sure you and all your kids did tho and not just to fit in
As a freemason and LDS member this was very well done!
To bad your so called "lord" is Lucifer
What a mess...
As an LDS member myself, this really helps a lot.
Very well done. I just visited the ancient temples on the Nile. The tall pillars in the Egyptian room reminded me of those Egyptian temples. They even painted them in ancient colors that still exist on some pillars blocked from the sun. So much mystery is connected to ancient Egypt.
Egypt was also destroyed for enslaving Gods chosen. And to this day Egypt is cursed and in ruins. Thank you Jesus Christ for blessing us with Truth.
How many lodges meet in this temple?
@@BenjaminNoffsinger 5 different lodges meet in this building. Wasatch #1, Mt. Moriah #2, Argenta #3, Salt Lake #17, Progress #22.
This was very interesting. I’ve always wondered why Joseph Smith adapted some of the words and symbolism from Freemasons. It makes sense. Truth is not found only in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Fascinating!
Joseph Smith did not adapt anything from this group. This secret society's true motives are opposite to the truth as revealed through the prophet Joseph.
Think he k .....1800 s Joseph Smith correct ??
Oh look - Zander is on the war path - deleting my comments because he doesn't like light or a differing opinion about his false information.
There is NO TRUTH in either. The so called "lord" of Both is Lucifer.
Wow thanks for this, I'm LDS from the Philippines and have so many questions about Joseph Smith and it's affairs in Freemasonry.
Fascinating ! Thank you for doing this.
As a black Latter Day Saint convert - I’m just struggling in general. This just adds a whole other layer. Coming to know that black men were denied the priesthood until 1978 has been hard. It feels like I have to climb Mt Everest just to be a normal person in society. I’m very happy that so many people have benefited from what so many people call an incredible organization - the Masons. These are wonderful principles- but as a Black American - I just wanted to share with you guys that it’s extremely lonely to see everyone having their traditions and you just feeling like a second rate citizen.
I am so sorry to hear that you feel second class. I don't feel you are. There have been misunderstandings over time but you have NEVER been second class. There is a time and place for everything and if you trust God, things happen in His time.
@@EYELIDWAVE I am sorry you have been struggling. I believe the church to be true but unfortunately it is a construct under the laws of man but the principles of God. The establishment of the church was during slavery and Indian genocide. As members joined the church they had to deal with their own genocide and it really was not until after the Civil rights movement that the administrative body of the church could enforce any new revelation and do the PR necessary to get people to make changes. It take years to change people. The word of wisdom took more than a generation to become second nature to members. Blacks and priesthood is no issue to the younger members and soon we will be more inclusive to those dealing with gender fluidity. The church needed to have a formula to function as a body of people who did not relate from all nations and walks of life. The Masonic formula to make a unified fraternal brothers group from unlike people has been found to work in founding other groups. Elks lodge, Moose, Eagles, OddFellows all follow the formula. The LDS church benefits from its founders using the structure of the Masons to keep brothers and sisters giving service to each other and resources to the organization. God is using imperfect people and governments to keep the church alive. It is slow and beaurocratic and will become a larger world power slowly. The Masons are not growing like they had been so their influence is less than it has been. Just keep following the teachings of the church. The Masons say that you will get out what you put in. The more you follow the lessons the greater change for good you will experience. Keep the faith.
@@EYELIDWAVE You are needed. I know it can feel so disheartening to learn of that. There were also black members in the 1840s when the faith was still freshly restored. I feel if Joseph Smith wasn't murdered, there would probably be even more in the faith by now. Some of us still feel like we don't fit in for other reasons too. A wise person told me once to "not judge history by today's standards". It's helped me a lot. If you haven't started working on your family history, start doing it. It is a great way to feel connected to your ancestors and honor their sacrifices and if you haven't gone to the temple yet, make it a goal. They need you as much as you need them. And finally, as a convert think back to your conversion and the feelings of the spirit and your testimony. I hope this helps ☺️ 💗
@@h.r.1523 that’s awesome - thank you for those pertinent reminders and thoughts - you are right. I’m glad we both shared what we felt 😃❤️
Can anyone prove native Americans are descended from jews
My Grandfather was a Mason and loved the organization. I think a fraternity of men who use myths to better themselves and do charitable work is lovely, but the moment at 15:40 in that says Freemasonry borrowed from other places and therefor we can't say Joseph Smith borrowed from Freemasonry is a disingenuous leap in logic. JS clearly "adapted" a great deal of the masonic ordinance into what became the temple ceremony. 'Catalyst' is the "get out of jail free card" used in both temple ordinance and Book of Abraham LDS apologetics.
The two pillars at the entrance of Solomon's Temple are called Jachin and Boaz. Jachin is the pillar on the right, and Boaz is the pillar on the left when facing the entrance.
I pray all will know the love and forgiveness, peace and joy of The Prince of Peace Jesus.
great episode . I loved it
Beautiful production for this ancient fraternity
🌹🌿 The Egyptian Statues at the front of the Freemason Lodge are interesting. Considering that there are Freemason Symbols in the Egyptian Hieroglyphs. The King James Bible was Translated from Aramaic Egyptian ♀️ Hebrew and Greek. And The Book of Mormon is Translated from Reformed Egyptian ♀️
Thank you so much fr this documentary
This man did not tell very much. He concealed much more than he revealed.
This is like a North Korean window display facade , nothing to see here folks move alone , everything is just fine.
He pointed out that everything he is restrained from speaking about is available online. I. e. Just because you can find information about nuclear submarines doesn't give a sailor/ submariner the right to talk about this things
It is said, that those who are slow to embrace the truth by faith, can easily behold its testimony in the stones of the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt.
The stage drops are mind-blowing. Great video all around
The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.
@zon3665 every instance of secret combinations includes that the purpose of such are to get gain or power, to carry out wickedness, and to protect the wicked from being discovered or from suffering justice.
It starts in the "more wicked" part of a society and spreads.
It's the purpose of the secret combinations that matter, not that something is held secret.
Joseph and Hyrum don't seem to have made a connection between Masonry and secret combinations.
@@zon3665 I wish people said this about Chad Daybell. He was literally a prophet to many Utah members of the church
@@zon3665 Context matters. The Book of Mormon denounced those secret combinations which were calculated to allow evil men to murder and rob. Masonry does not resemble such combinations in any sense whatsoever. Indeed, if one denounces any organization based solely on the fact that it has secrets which are only divulged to the initiated, one must also denounce both the modern LDS Church AND the ancient Christian Church established by Jesus and the Apostles (and which are well-documented to have included secret initiatory Mystery rites).
@@zon3665must be rough leaving your doors unlocked and publishing your bank account information.
Thank you. This was interesting.
I add my appreciation for the information. It adds to the truths found all around me. This gives me incentive to look for avenues to become better than I am. Thank you.
Jaw can you or any human been make himself better?
Interesting!!
❤❤❤❤❤❤ excellent information, thank you!
The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.
@@zon3665 Context matters. The Book of Mormon denounced those secret combinations which were calculated to allow evil men to murder and rob. Masonry does not resemble such combinations in any sense whatsoever. Indeed, if one denounces any organization based solely on the fact that it has secrets which are only divulged to the initiated, one must also denounce both the modern LDS Church AND the ancient Christian Church established by Jesus and the Apostles (and which are well-documented to have included secret initiatory Mystery rites).
How fascinating.
Im a black belt in Taekwondo (World taekwondo federation) and i can tell you the tradition, symbolism, and lore from that style has more overlap into lds teaching and culture than youd think. You start as a white belt, 10 gup (no experience), move down to 1 gup (red belt) and become a black belt. Then, almost like being baptized, you realize how much you dont know and tbat its also your responsibility to teach others. You then become 1 dan, and you progress to 9th degree black belt (the whole process taking decades). Technically, a 10th dan is a 9th degree grand master whi has died in that rank and now is on the other side of tbings. But the lore and wisdom, teaching bad men to be good and good to be better is intensely interesting.
This is helpful. I know things about it I am involved in groups around the Masonic. So I understand all this and have gone to many lodges
Well done. I'd would love to be able to visit that Masonic Lodge. We have nothing like that in Louisiana. My lodge basically split in two. One part is our meeting room or temple, and the other is for non-masonic gatherings. Like eating. That room has a very large kitchen and we cook many of our meals there. Unlike many lodges, we eat first and then conduct our meeting. I don't know if it's a thing, but many of our Motorcycle lodges don't have a building at all, and use other lodges facilities for their meetings. We just hosted one this last Saturday. And we've assisted in raising some of their Fellow Craft's masons to Master because they don't have enough members to do it on their own.
This just seems like a fancy men’s club. Very helpful video though.
Basically yes, but some lodges have started allowing women. There’s two types of these lodges “feminine” lodges that are women only, and “mixed” lodges which is exactly what it says it is. Where it gets interesting is some grand lodges don’t allow masons from “masculine” lodges to attend the feminine or mixed closed meetings.
It is just that but those who follow after the 33 rd rank the teachings of Albert Pike , then move you over to a secret group within
Turn to Jesus Christ! God bless you!
Just as the temple is a membership fee club.
@@user-ob2vo1ui4t those two are completely different. The video explains it if you watched it.
Thanks for this. It cleared up some things. My testimony has never wavered over whether or not our temple ceremony came from the Masons, but it’s good to know what the Masons stand for.
They don't stand for anything good. They just have a front they show the public- now that their name is in the public eye.
You should
Did the Illuminati infiltrate the European lodge in the early 1800's ans start changing it? Albert Pike, leader of the Knights of the Golden Circle, supposedly the highest ranking mason in the world in the mid 1800's, had a "dark" history.
@@Jeanie-nv7lo "They don't stand for anything good."
You must know, so care to tell what is bad about the Masons?
@former9085 - you can read my other comments on this video for that answer. Anyone with half a brain would question this organisation and therefore not go near it.
good video, thanks.
I so enjoyed this tour and experience! Thank you!
Thank you for this informative message on the Masonic and some key principles of their perspective.
Geometry is also part of art.
The G symbol used by freemasonry is the G of Gnosticism!
The heresy in the early church, it has nothing to do with God or geometry!!!
God speed brothers & sisters....sorry I'm difficult a stone 🪨 stuck in his ways 😋😋😋 your lodge is gorgeous
The fact of the matter is that I am a master mason with the masonic heritage going back for generations. A Mason has several duties that he pledges and the first and most important is to his creator.
@@Harleyblake-eb1pj my creator was mom and dad.
Creator? What is the name of Your creator?
AM happy to be a full time Later-Day Saint. thanks
Very informative !
Brethrens, keep up the podcast, amazing work. Thank our HEAVENLY PARENT'S, for restoring, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, back on earth.
Very interesting!!
So if certain details of a member’s life come to light and are not in keeping with the teachings of the Masons, what happens?
Awesome video. This is fantastic. I have always been interested in Masonry, and have family members who are.
They are not in heaven
I'm grateful for this video. Lon is a wonderful man and he did a great job giving this interview and tour.
I am a member of the LDS church & a Freemason. In the 1970’s I tried to go to a Lodge meeting in Provo and was refused entry when I would not disclose what church I belonged to. I told my questioners that I would also not tell them what my political party affiliation was, because as a California Mason I was forbidden to discuss politics & religion in lodge.
The Utah Masons would not let me attend lodge because they suspected me I was LDS.
I am glad to see the Utah Lodge must have abandoned that practice.
This was great, i would love more!! I've never been scared of he similarities because they all go back to the same ancient religion. Cool stuff!
Really helpful video to have on this subject! Looking forward to sharing this when someone has questions!
The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.
Nothing to fear. All powerful things can be used for good and evil but it's nice to see people demystifying this organization. I have a lot pf respect for them. Our country was build on Freemasonry.
No mention of the secret handshakes?
Thanks for the presentation.
Love this - thank you i learned a lot!
Learning all the time. Thank you for this informative podcast. I was a rainbow girl back in the 60's and really enjoyed it.
So cool
Another fantastic video! Thank you!
Thanks for this video! It was time well spent.
Thinking the same
My Grandfather and Uncle were Masons. My Cousins were Demolays. My Mother, Grandmother and Aunt were Eastern Star. My sister and I were Job's Daughters.
Thank you both for this very interesting tour.
Very insightful. Thank you.
I love the videos that you guys put out exploring different aspects of the history of the church. I am not Mormon and yet I can see how there is definitely a borrowing of things from Mason rituals and designs. The upside down star in the Mason temple sure looks like the ones that are on the temple in Nauvoo.
Is this video a small way for the church to admit that it has masonic symbols and actually uses several things from masonry in the temple ceremonies? I am not trying to start any arguments, I just want to legitimately know the truth. Keep up the great work and thank you for showing us outsiders and members what's going on behind the scenes.
It cannot be overlooked that millenia before there were Masons, and millenia before there were Aztecs, there were Temples.
On consulting the scholars, one will find that it was the Masons who borrowed from the Temples, not the other way around. One of the oldest books in the world is the Temple Scroll, which bears out the antiquity of the Temples, and multiple dispensations of the Gospel.
It was a practice, over time, to claim to have knowledge that one did not necessarily have, in order to gain influence and power. As a result, we see the ruins of true Temples alongside the ruins of copycat temples The Masons were/are among the latter.
Joseph Smith had access to the Oracles of God. Through him the Temple was restored in it's purity, as it was in the beginning.
Just remember that no individual member with a youtube channel short of the President of the Church, First Presidency and/or quorum of the 12 can speak on it's behalf when it comes to offical standings.
With that said, it is well known, as explained in this video that Joseph Smith Jr. was indeed a mason and used truth(anywhere he could get it) and was inspired from the Holy Spirit to use masonic symbolism in some aspects. I can't speak from a masonic side of things.
Growing up and finding out about these things I was also curious and asked about them. Who's to say that good men aren't inspired whether or not they are part of a specifc church. The Holy Ghost testifies of the truth of all things, whether that be spiritual or secular.
Maybe knowledge and truth had been passed down from the early saints, to the templar, to the masons...that's my personal theory.
Joseph didn't need to "borrow" anything from the Masons. That's the lazy conclusion. Joseph restored what the Masons are but a limited, piecemeal, apostate version of.
I edited this video and toured the masonic temple several times now. Each time I thought of how different we are. As the video says, 10% of the LDS endowment is similar to Masonry. The rest is from the Bible. Both organizations use the bible.
Considering LDS temples also have baptisms, initiatories, sealings, that probably brings the percentage down to like 1% of LDS temple ceremonies are similar to Masonic rituals. So you can see how every time I went to the SLC temple, I was reminded how different it is.
What is similar between Masons and Latter-day Saints seems even less, when you add in other similar rituals from churchs like Catholics or even secular University graduations (with their caps and gowns).
So Joseph Smith was translating the Book of Abraham, and he saw temple practices in it. Then he became a Mason and he saw temple practices in it. He was probably familiar with Catholics. And he probably knew the Book of Mormon enough to see it's temple practices. Certainly he knew the Bible enough to know about Solomons temple.
All that came together to Joseph Smith, at the right time, to allow him to be open to the Lord in restoring the temple. In a way, I guess you could say the Lord inspired Masonry to come along Joseph's path.
Joseph saw good in Masonry and adapted a small portion of it into our inspired version of the temple. Sure, some things are very similar, but in a way, Joseph saw the value of the teaching method, and used it. It's kind of the same how when LDS leaders came accross film and video, they adapted film into our temple ordinances because they help teach the principles. Rituals are very powerful, and it makes sense that Masonry, a practice founded on biblical rituals, would ring true to Joseph Smith.
Our church and symbols on the outside of our temples from that period has nothing to do with this organisation. Members of the Maysons un-alived the prophet Joseph. Our rituals, practices and Covenants have nothing to do with this group. Our practices come from God and antiquity older than this group. This group admits to stealing information from Solomon's temple. This video is not correct in any way and we have no connection or familiarity with this group or their purposes.
Interesting 😮
Masons and Mormons. A match made in … well, you know. )
Yeah, one cannot be a Freemason and a Catholic.
@@MichaelBurk-sj1tw "one cannot be a Freemason and a Catholic."
There are many Catholic Freemasons.
Can the Blind lead the Blind? Luke 6:39
@@former9085they are excommunicated already just by joining freemasonry
Nice video and presentation. Although a bit of bias towards Joseph Smith, still a good video about the mason lodge. If you want to learn about the theological Solomon temple ordinances, you can learn with the Jerusalem museum that has a replica and shows all about it. You can ask a Rabbi too.
If you a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints,if you hold the Priesthood of God, then why do you need more? Could you explain the 33 degrees of masonry.
@@Susan-hk7uj if Joseph Smith was a prophet of truth Church, he had personal conversations with Lord, so why would he become a Mason's member?😉 If the place helps you to become better, why not?
@@MrDentistspb Secret combinations ?
@@MrDentistspbJoseph Smith needed to learn how to present symbolic teachings. Saints volume 1 explains it.
It's very similar to Boy Scouts, but for grownups. Actually, Boy Scouts was started by a Mason (hence the clothing and handshakes and stuff). It's an organization that helps people be better, using the power of ritual.
The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.
I am an Latter - day Saint it is very interesting tour and informative to me.
Great video.
March 1842 Smith was raised to Master Mason "on sight". Making one "A Mason on Sight" is generally reserved as an honor and is a rarity in occurrence. Having friends in high places helps too.
1843 Smith established 5 lodges. The lodges were voting on more than one candidate at a time, not requiring proficiency in each degree before proceeding to the next degree , in many cases, initiates were being passed to the Fellowcraft degree and raised to the Master Mason degree within two days of being initiated as an Entered Apprentice, not paying dues and engaging in criminal activity. The members and charters were suspended or revoked.
Smith claimed he didn't borrow/steal/incorporate from the Masons for his temple ceremony. Smith claimed "God utilizes your culture and environment to reveal things to you in ways you’ll understand" Very smooth for a con man. I would say Gods truth is Gods truth regardless of your culture and environment.
Great tour Bro. Casey
The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.
@@zon3665 Context matters. The Book of Mormon denounced those secret combinations which were calculated to allow evil men to murder and rob. Masonry does not resemble such combinations in any sense whatsoever. Indeed, if one denounces any organization based solely on the fact that it has secrets which are only divulged to the initiated, one must also denounce both the modern LDS Church AND the ancient Christian Church established by Jesus and the Apostles (and which are well-documented to have included secret initiatory Mystery rites).
Thank you for this video! I've been debating on becoming a Mason prior to my mission - this has been really helpful!
@@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2qlno it isnt.
@@hunterspencer7182 If you like boy scouts and earning merit badges and like world history and reenactment ceremonial stuff then it is a good group but it is loads of work so focus on mission first.
Don't go near it. It's Sat an ic
@@hunterspencer7182 please do your due diligence and find out the truth about Masons.
Don't listen to Jeanie. I am a Latter-day Saint and a Mason and it has been a huge blessing to me. It's not Satanic in the least. You should look into it if you're still interested. And I don't know if you're in Utah or not, but if so, feel free to reach out for tips about getting started.
John 6:44 ... says it all
And does not contradict with membership/participation in Freemasonry whatsoever. In fact, since most Freemasons are faithful Christians, most Freemasons therefore agree with John 6:44.
Psalm 2
Thank you for this very informative episode 😊 we learned to much ❤
In my notes it's easy to take a square stone and make it round it's much harder to take a round stone and make it square much more work
Great episode.
Why is this an ad
Will Masons pledge to Adore, Love and serve God above all things, give Glory to Dod and Jis Holy Mother for Our Lord Jesus Christ and our Redemption through His Cross and Resurrection.? Pray, Jope, Love.
Hello bishop Lon Tibbetts, what would you say to the Mormon leaders from Latinamerica about masonry ?
The majority of the bishops and stake leaders say that freemasonry is a secret combination and that it is not of God.
Latin American Church leaders have it correct. Scripture Central does not speak for the church. The information on this video is false.
Thou shalt have no other Gods before me. How does that fit in here at the masonic temple?
Lets be honest. If you eat enough fast good, Ronald McDonald is your god😂
"Thou shalt have no other Gods before me. How does that fit in here at the masonic temple?"
Freemasonry is not a religion. The discussion of religion in the Lodge and among Freemasons is forbidden.
We thought he pointed out Gods. Sorry if we misinterpreted. We r christians,.
@@michellekegel5453 "We r christians"
As are many Freemasons. Religion is a private affair in Freemasonry and is never discussed amongst Freemasons.
I have a curious question if he is a bishop and a masonry, when does he apply the principles he learn from both? When does he spend time with his family and the needy? Knowing the work of bishopric is a lot of work and responsibilities. It would be good to ask his wife .
Good question
And ask his children about his double life and how he behaves at home vs in public. Every child of Mawson's I know are victims of child abuse through this organisation.
Good question
And ask his children about his double life and how he behaves at home vs in public. Every child of Mawson's I know are victims of child abuse through this organisation.
@@Jeanie-nv7lo Utter nonsense.
@@Aldrnari- that's pretty sad siding with a systematic abusive system and gaslighting victims.
@@Jeanie-nv7lo You have no insight into this organization, clearly.
This is so neat to see and understand how things influenced Joseph Smith and led him towards revelation
No, this has nothing to do with our temple and everything to do with setting up merderers to have no excuse for the crime of un-aliving a prophet.
Waoo increíble 😮
The similarities in Lucy Mack's Plea over her dead son's and the Mayson cry "Is there no help for the Widow's Son" is interesting. But the similarity between the Mason's reenactment of the robbers who kill Hyrum Abiff for holding the Secrets of Building Solomons Temple and the Matyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum is scary.
It's been said that at Carthage, Joseph's last words were the Masonic distress call, but obviously the Masons in the mob weren't even good men, let along better ones.
Albert Pike wrote a book called morals and dogma in there.He explains how they worship lucifer.
Do I need to say anything else.
Someone replied to my comment on here somewhere - that there's no evidence that Pike was a Sat-an-ist. I clearly said Pike stated it himself. Some people choose to be blind.
My understanding was that God and Jesus, through the Spirit, were the authors of the Gospel and Temple Endowment. This is what Joseph Smith claimed throughout his time as Prophet. Why then, are we now making excuses for Joseph “adapting” portions of Masonic ceremony for temple ceremony? If anyone is to blame, would it not be God Himself who adapted these ceremonies?
I'll tell you why you THINK the church is claiming different here.
1. This organisation (Scripture Central) does not speak for the church.
2. This organisation does not represent Joseph Smith or his teachings or words at all. Most of the time they like to say that Joseph Smith didn't know what he was talking about and Scripture Central knows better.
In conclusion - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints speak for themselves. They have not done anews release on this topic, so the church has said nothing on this topic at this time. it is lies what is being put forth here. The Lord had Joseph Smith introduced to this fraternity, just like Judas was one of the 12... to set members of this group up to murder the prophet.
That's the only link it has to the church.
Fantastic and needed discourse on this historically rich topic.
Thank you for increasing our understanding of this wonderful organization. Very interesting.
The Book of Mormon denounces secret combinations as "most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God." They are also considered to be one of the signs that a people is ripe for the Lord's vengeance, and according to the Book of Mormon, in the last days, they will be prevalent on the earth.
Free Mayson ry is not an honourable organisation. It is opposite to good.
I highly doubt that a secret combination would uphold such values as friendship, integrity, respect and service. By their fruits you shall know them. It is also written that in the Last Days good shall be called evil, and evil shall be called good.
@joshuagentry3118 - I just can't believe that Scripture Central would advertise such an organisation and tell people that somehow we come from them. Ughhh!! I think there are probably multiple maysons in scripture central.
Great video, thanks for the content. The Masonic temple in Philadelphia is amazing as well. They give tours and it's beautiful.