Update: It's been about 8 months since the repair work was done. I'm no longer burning any oil and the vehicle seems to be running better as well. I'm sorry to hear that some of you are not having the best of luck with this situation. I encourage you to reach out to Acura directly, and if you're having trouble with one dealership, try another. Hopefully they will work with you to make things right. I wish you all the best!
I have to tell you, this whole stance taken by Honda of 1qt. of oil burned every 1,000 miles is a big scam! Fortunately, my wife and I have had our Acura rebuilt just as you did Ryan and it's now been 5,000 miles and we've not burned one drop of oil. Prior to the rebuild, their oil test revealed 1.3 qts per 1,000. However, it really was burning much more as I carefully checked it myself before taking it in to them. Their service techs in the garage were cheating the numbers and reporting lower consumption than I know for a fact it was burning. Ours was so bad that they really had no choice than to rebuild it (2010 MDX) The question: If burning 1qt. of oil every 1,000 miles is normal for this engine, then why haven't we burned a drop in 5,000 miles since the engine was rebuilt? We just received a letter informing us of a class action lawsuit against Honda in the Superior Court of California, County of LA against Honda on this "Oil Consumption" issue. I hope they nail Honda's asses to the floor on this because they are "screwing" a whole lot of customers out there with this "so called" 1qt of oil every 1,000 mile thing is normal crap! Bottom line, we will never purchase another Honda product, ever......not even a lawn mower!
@@scottybd4919 Hi I finally got approved for the rebuilt on my 6spd TL 3.17.20. Due to corona scare I ll have to wait till mid Apr for repairs, dealing with this since 2011.....
@Ryanvision How is the MDX going for you? I'm thinking about buying one that had the recall work done last year in 2019. Has the repairs fixed the problem completely for you, or did it just reduce the oil consumption? Would you recommend me buying the MDX or look at other models?
@@Zn0nimus Problem has been completely resolved for me. No more issues with burning oil. Vehicle has been amazing other than that so now that that's fixed I love it. We are actually towing a pontoon boat regularly with it now with no issues. The only annoyance at the moment is the seat/mirror memory is a bit weird. Think I may need to replace the buttons or something because it doesn't always go to my setting the first time.
@@Zn0nimus I know you didn't ask me, but I have experience with five J35 V6 engines in the past 20 years. One went 200K miles before trade-in... never needed to add oil between changes. Have a '13 Accord at 110K that burns NO oil. I wouldn't take the risk of a J37... More recent models with 3.5L engine are a safer bet.
Thank you Ryan. We are so happy we found your first video. We took our car to our mechanic because oil light was on. He said this may be a bigger problem than what you are expecting and we should do more research. Searching the Internet we found your TH-cam video. The extended warranty period is expiring on September 1, 2019. From today that’s only 52 days from now. We called the dealer and they told us to come on in and they would do a certified oil change and begin the process.We found your video just in time thanks again Ryan.
Thank you for leaving this comment because this is the EXACT reason I made the videos!! If it helps just one person, mission accomplished. Hopefully everything goes smoothly for you and your vehicle will be good as new in no time. Cheers!
Warning warning warning! I went through the same thing. My MDX 2010 was consuming 1 2/3 quarts every thousand miles. I brought it in for the oil consumption test and they actually overfilled it quite a bit and then told me that it did not qualify. I am a backyard mechanic and very good at this stuff, but they almost had me second-guessing myself. So, I did another Thousand Mile check on my own and saw it was consuming oil like crazy and realized they were trying to pull a quick one. I talked to the service manager who agreed, especially after I showed him my TH-cam videos, to do another consumption test and have me supervised the whole thing. Sure enough they confirmed it was guzzling oil and they agreed to do the job. What a pain in the ass although I am glad I got it all done for free including the initial oil change.
I actually had the excessive oil consumption issue (burning 1 quart every 1000 miles) with my 13 TL shawd 3.7 j37a4, 6spd. Didnt do the recall on it to get the piston rings changed. And it was too late for me since mileage and age was past the extended warranty for the tsb. So I went out, raced revved it on the highway 4-5 time. And problem solved, the heat and high revs broke loose the carbon build up, and after that, no more oil consumption. You just have to race it a few times a month to clean the engine of the carbon build up on the piston rings.
I had to pause the video after you shared what they charged for the timing and serpentine belt replacements! This is what I’m hoping our dealership will do. Amazing!
@@ryan.vision you know why ? cause they have to take both belts off and they cost about $20 each, so putting a new one isn't any more work. Big profit for them! not a $170 part. heck I bought all parts (timing, tensionner, pulleys, water pump, serpentine) for $200 OEM on amazon (Aisin TKH-002) and spent not much more in labor to put it in. I would never go to dealer for anything but warranty work... 2007 MDX blue tooth killing my batteries is another story they won't fess up...
Thanks for the video. I just bought an 09 Acura MDX and I've had it for about three weeks now and yesterday a low oil message appeared on the dashboard. I went home and checked it right away and it looked it was at 60% since it was topped off with an oil change before I bought the car. I don't have an Acura dealer close by but the local Honda dealership has said the will work with me on the oil consumption test which is nice. If I do need the engine repair to fix I'd have to go to the Acura dealership which is about 50 miles away. This is in the Pacific Northwest
Sounds like you're burning quite a bit. I think it will be well worth the 50 mile trip to get the MDX all fixed up. Right now you're probably feeling pretty sour about the purchase (as I was) but you'll feel a lot better like you came out on top once everything is squared away. Best of luck to you!
Yes about feeling a bit of regret about buying this. And the crazy thing about even getting this car on Acuras radar here is the fact that this car was exported here from Canada. I'm working with Acura of USA and Canada with case numbers from each one. So far they've both been very responsive. We'll see what happens
Hi there Ryan. I have a 2010 Acura TL shawd. I am in the middle of the oil consumption test at Neilo Acura in Roseville. I am at about 1k miles and my dipstick is below the lowest dot on the dip stick. Going to take mine in this Friday to see what they say. If the timing belt is that price I definitely will replace it as well. Hopefully they will take care of me the same they did to you.
Update. Went in today and I was around 1200 miles. Got approved for the fix. They’re scheduling me out 4/2020 for my fix. Not happy. I’m not even sure if my vehicle is safe to drive that long. All they said were they are very busy and hopefully they can get more workers so they’ll be able to get this taken care of sooner. :(
@@MrMrclown34 i have the same problem and car how long is this warranty/ recall good for bought my acura tl shawd this summer and what exactly did you do so i can start doing the same hopefully im able to still its barely at 100k miles just hit that last week
@@erikgonzalez1243 mine was around 140k miles. And was confirmed to exceed the test minimum limits. Got everything replaced and new camshaft due to pitting. I'd advise you to look into the oil consumption settlement. I stopped following the oil consumption threads online since it was fixed on mine in early 2020. You can call a local dealer with good reputation too. The one I went to took good care of me so im happy.
@@MrMrclown34 whats the settlement for? Would i qualify still even of im the second owner or what do i do to get it or look information about that ? So they fix it and give you a settlement i just dropped my car off today there going to fix the oil consumption since the last over got the test done just forgot to do it so i got lucky ,
Thank you for this video. I'm a proud owner of a 2013 3.7 Ltr. MDX and I too have noticed oil consumption, very satisfied otherwise with the vehicle. I do qualify for this recall, phoned the dealer after watching, I will begin my journey this Monday.
Thanks for this!! I'm currently having this problem with my 2011 MDX. I did recieve the letter in the mail, I'm gonna take it to the dealer this month.
The sooner the better because more and more people are becoming aware and each dealership can only handle so many repairs before the deadline. Hopefully they take good care of you and your MDX!
@@ryan.vision thanks.. I bought the truck on Dec1 2018 no problems other than that. We got an Oil change in March we already added 2 quarts we still got 60% oil life my wife only drove 900 miles since the oil change. So there's a major loss in oil.
@@outrightpainting2203: My dealer (in Colorado) required three 1,000 mile oil consumption tests. Similar to Ryan, twice I took it in early due to the fact the oil dipstick had no oil on it at all by 850 miles & 930 respectively. Service tech said he only added 1.1 quarts at 850 miles and 1.15 quarts at 930? Be ware! The hash-marks (1/2" long) on the dipstick represents 1 quart of oil. There is another 1/2" to the bottom of the stick below the hash-marks. This represents another quart of oil per my own tests but my dealer was fudging the numbers to their favor by saying it was only down 1.15 quarts! When I came unglued about this and called them out, the service tech shrugged his shoulders and insisted that's how much oil they added to top it out. I demanded to speak with the service manager who assured me they'd do the right thing but he insisted we finish the test before getting too upset. At 600 miles I took it in for the final check, which was 2,380 total miles driven. MDX burned 3.5 quarts total. Very excessive. They plan to start repairs next Mon. to replace the rings, pistons, adjust the valves and replace all of the seals. My point to this is, even though my MDX had no oil on the stick 3 times, they were cheating the numbers when topping out the oil. Still it was so excessive that they had to admit the car had serious oil consumption issues. Be ware folks! Not all dealers are equal.
Nice vid! Its very informative. I just called my local dealer to request the consumption test. I did my oil change 5 days ago with oil down to 30% per indicator and found less than 2 Quarts of oil left. I have been noticing increase of oil consumption for the last three times I did the oil change. So I think I may have gotten stung with the recall...smh.
Thanks for sharing . Just hit a thousand miles on my certified oil change. Waiting to see what they tell me. It's not quite off the dipstick but it's at the bottom.
My 2017 Honda CRV has this problem. I got it certified used 1.5 years ago, it had a bad brake booster, which took 4 months and a few calls to Honda to get the dealer to fix under warranty. Then I noticed the oil problem after the warranty expired. It appears to be the same ring problem as Acura. I will ask my Honda dealer, 5 minutes from my house, to look at it. They were the ones that would not honor the certified warranty and I took it back to the dealer who sold me the car. Too bad. I had several Honda's over the years and never had any issues and dealers where always great. Not anymore.
Man I started having problems starting January with oil consumption problems with my AWD 2012 TL and I have been changing my oil regularly.. Never letting my oil life get below 50% on the dash . Engine started to lose power and acceleration when I’m driving. Rpms struggle to shift in high rpms 4-5k rpm.. had a local garage look at it and they couldn’t work on it and recommended I call Acura since they found there was a recall. Pissed off to find the date of the recall ended September 2019.. and I purchased the car from a dealership which they said was out of warranty in November 2020.. them bozos screwed me..
How much oil are you consuming? I was burning quite a bit and didn't have any of the other issues you mentioned. I wonder if maybe you have other issues going on in addition to the oil consumption. Or maybe the oil burning has fouled your spark plugs? Any check engine light?
Thanks for this not sure if I will qualify but I just bought a used Acura TL 09 139k from and Acura dealer and it’s burning oil like crazy contacted them right away and they booked an appointment to check it out
@@ryan.vision just believing that it will work out….yeah they are I test drive it and fell in love with it. I started questioning why Acura dropped the ball, they should’ve continued making cars like this
Local Acura dealerships are selling these pre-owned 3.7 engines without revealing the issue. It's sickening. I love the look of the mdx, but I don't want a smelly oil burning pig.
I'm surprised they're able to get away with that!! This pig is running like a champ now. Been pulling a boat with it since June and it's doing great without consuming oil. Finally feeling better about the purchase.
@@ryan.vision Im not sure what they could have done to fix it...sounds like they just put the same (new rings) back in it. Whose to say it want happen again
I just bought a preowned 2011 MDX last week on 10/18/2019. Dealer said there were no outstanding recalls. I also checked NHTSA and Acura/recalls both showed no recalls for the VIN. Come to find out a week later that it's burning 1.5 quarts per 1000 miles. What should I do to try to do to get service? Any advice?
I think they categorize it as something other than a recall, so maybe that's why nothing showed up? I think the wording to use with the dealer would be oil consumption test for the known oil control ring issue. Hopefully that will open some doors of communication, but it does look like the date originally sent out has passed. Maybe they can still work with you.
My 2012 went in shop today I was burning 2qrts every 1000miles my question is with the addons there offering to do my timing belt for $900. Seems really high compared to what they did yours for did you haggle that price or was that offered to you? I do want to have the belt done but I'm not sure if my service rep is working on commission or what not, he also offered the valve adjustment at $800.
Those prices are very high. In fact, that sounds like the normal pricing to me. I don't recall the exact numbers I mentioned in the video but it was around $170 for timing belt and $300 or so for valves. No haggling, that was the price they proposed if I wanted to do it. It was on a sheet they had printed out to show people the options. You may want to talk to the manager about the pricing.
NIGHTMARE EXPERIENCE !!!!!!! I own a 2010 MDX, and received notice of an extended warranty for the oil consumption problem. I took it to the Authorized Acura Dealer for repair. REPAIR was never done. I still have 2-3 QT oil consumption and every warning light in the car goes on and off. Im at my wits end with the dealership and Honda/Acura corp. Getting the runaround. Anyone else experience similar issues?
Just curious, but did anyone's dealership refund the cost of the "certified" oil change after the consumption test and qualifying for the warranty work? Mine was $75, which is steep imo. Acura should reimburse if the vehicle qualified.
That's a great question. I was able to pass smog without issues during and after the oil consumption issue, but I'm sure it couldn't have been good for it. I noticed a lot of black on the exhaust tips before I got the issue fixed.
What is the oil volume range for the hashed region on the dipstick? I thought it was a 1qt range. When I took my car in, it was reading below the lower hash line. They said it took only 0.75qt to fill. So below the 1 qt minimum loss. Claimed I must have been on a slope when I took my measurement.
i bought a 2011 mdx at acura of serramonte and they sold it to me with oil leaks from the oil filter housing, oil pan gasket and the rear main seal, quoted me 5k and when i brought it in about the recall they just gave me a free oil change and said to fix the leaks first to do a proper test🤦🏽♂️, i know it was leaking cause i changed the oil myself just 2 weeks into ownership and only 1.5 quarts came out, got the whole bottom and top engine steam cleaned to find the leaks and they still denied it all, car finally broke down 5 years later as of 2 months ago
Never buy a Honda odyssey with a iVTEC with VCM engine.; They also burn oil because of faulty engineering . My 2005 Odyssey started to burn oil at 122K miles..There is no recall bulletin for 2005 but Honda lost a class action law suite and give 2008-2010 odyssey owners a 8 yr-extended warranty so they could bring in their vehicle to have the rings replaced. The 2008-2010 Odyssey owners have the same issue premature engine oil burning around the rings. The dealer wanted 8Kto repair my 2005 odyssey but could not guarantee that the engine could get anther 50K mile after new rings were put in. Don't buy Odyssey that has a iVTEC with VCM technology. That technology is still being used on the 2021 Odysseys. Buyer beware you buy at your own risk..
I'm happy to report that the MDX is still running great and no longer burns oil after the free repairs, but I feel bad for those with MDX and similar vehicles who were unable to get the free repairs. I always thought Honda/Acura was a company that didn't have these sorts of problems, which is why I bought Honda/Acura vehicles. I still have the MDX but sold my Honda Accord and bought a Tesla. Very happy with the Tesla after 1.5 years and zero maintenance so far.
@@jasonsims007 that vcm engine was designed by the Honda engineers in 🇺🇸. The engineers in Japan are more talented and more conscientious about the product b4 it goes out the door. . The same goes with Benz. If yhe car comes from Alabama or south Africa, the quality control and engineering is substandard.
RYANVISION hey great video man, I have 2014 TL 3.7L it’s also burning oil but slowly not as fast as yours. my oil is on the low line at 20% that’s around 5k,km You think I might be eligible? I’m on the oil consumption test right now.
I'm not sure if it will qualify but hopefully it will because it might get worse later depending on your mileage. Seems they're looking for at least a quart or more per 1000 miles.
MY test done..Said bring it in and they will fix N/C...1 week later..done, checked oil at 500 miles...could not see it drop..1200 miles checked again, maybe lost a little..changed at 3500 miles maybe 1/2 qt low..I'm happy!! runs great this is a 2010 MDX with now 140k on it...good luck
I took my 2011 mdx to the dealer Aug 30 for the test. They put the kit on to monitor the oil but they said I had a oil pressure pump leak which is common but not leaking on the ground. They told me they won't fix the consumption because the oil pump leak. Smh
@@ryan.vision actually they said rear main seal has a minor leak but I didn't see any oil in that area. I'm still gonna take it back after 1000 miles or before to show them its drinking oil. But great car though
I did not. Since the pump is internal (no oil was leaking outside of the engine) and I didn't have any oil pressure issues, I didn't think it was worth the money to mess with it. I had them do the timing belt and adjust the valves along with new spark plugs. I passed on the water pump because I had records of that being done recently. The MDX is running like a champ now, still no leaks, and no more burning oil!!
@@ryan.vision on some engines oil seal can seep externally. My engine is seeping externally and it was noted when I had my certified oil change. My fear is that they will say that with that leak the test is void and I will have to get that repaired and do the oil consumption test again. But since they repaired yours it gives me hope. Now that this recall is public it's going to be hard to sell an MDX unless the oil consumption issue has been corrected. Like yours, my MDX is a weekend dog hauler. Burning some oil is not a terrible thing but with premium fuel at current prices, plus oil at 11 bucks a quart it can get a little expensive to operate MDX
Hopefully they take care of you just like they took care of me. They didn't mention anything about leaks or the oil pump until they had the engine apart. If they had tried to deny me right in the beginning based on any type of leak I would have argued because my driveway doesn't have a spot on it and in my mind it would have to leak some serious oil to be disqualified. I hear ya on the gas prices.. I'm CA paying the big bucks for gas... I hate when they mention the national average of 2 something while I'm paying just about double haha best of luck to ya!!
Do you think it would be a good idea to buy a 2011 acura tl with the 3.7 with 90k miles, I'm confused because I have no way of really checking if it burns oil
I would ask the owner about burning oil. They may lie to you, but worth a try. Check exhaust tips to see if the bottom is black. Check the oil to see if it's dark and smelly. Ask if they were aware of oil issue and if they had it repaired. If they say yeah, ask for paperwork. It's a gamble unless there's any documentation.
How long you had to wait before getting the cars in for the repairs, I’m asking because my mdx is been approved for the repairs but my dealer is taking so long to get the vehicle in for the repairs because they said parts are on back order
Once it was approved to be fixed, they scheduled an appointment about 2 weeks out. I dropped the car off on a Tues morning and picked it up Friday afternoon. They did say that I got in early though which was good because they expected things to get backed up as more people became aware. I didn't have any delays due to parts not being available.
Our 2011 Acura Mdx has the issue eats more than a quart every 1000 miles, we have been waiting for Acura dealer to fix it, it has been 7 months i feel like they are avoiding me! Never buy another acura again only Lexus or Toyota.
If you have documentation of your dealership visits, discussions, etc., you should contact Acura directly and let them know you're not happy with the service you're receiving from the dealership. There may be action they can take or perhaps another dealership you could work with.
@@ryan.vision Just contacted Acura and they assigned a mediator to help me with my case. He confirmed that i am on the list too . I just need this junk fixed.
Only out of pocket expense I paid was for the certified oil change to determine if my vehicle qualified for repairs. Other than that, I paid a bit extra for valve adjustment and a new timing belt which were completely optional. Just wanted to make sure this rig is solid for many more years.
Acura Canada reached out to both me and my brother-in-law for our respective TL and MDX. We're currently in the processor the consumption test right now. We'll see how it goes, but they just topped up 1.3 litres and my oil is at 70%.
I bought a 1994 Nissan in 1997. The transmission failed 9months into ownership. I swore off Nissans forever and I have made good on that promise. I bought my 2012 TL SH-AWD at 19k. It is burning oil at 90k. Like Nissan, I will never buy another Acura.
I had a 2003 Nissan 350z track edition in Daytona blue with a 6 speed and the Brembo brakes... drove the crap out of it for over 10 years and never had a single issue other than having to replace a power window motor. I think all auto makers have their bad years/models, just gotta do our research to make sure we don't buy the lemons.
Yeah, belts, alternators, plugs, brakes, etc are pretty straight forward, but when it comes to stuff like valve adjustment, timing belt, ring replacement, oil pump, that's when I take it to the pros.
Update: It's been about 8 months since the repair work was done. I'm no longer burning any oil and the vehicle seems to be running better as well. I'm sorry to hear that some of you are not having the best of luck with this situation. I encourage you to reach out to Acura directly, and if you're having trouble with one dealership, try another. Hopefully they will work with you to make things right. I wish you all the best!
I have to tell you, this whole stance taken by Honda of 1qt. of oil burned every 1,000 miles is a big scam! Fortunately, my wife and I have had our Acura rebuilt just as you did Ryan and it's now been 5,000 miles and we've not burned one drop of oil. Prior to the rebuild, their oil test revealed 1.3 qts per 1,000. However, it really was burning much more as I carefully checked it myself before taking it in to them. Their service techs in the garage were cheating the numbers and reporting lower consumption than I know for a fact it was burning. Ours was so bad that they really had no choice than to rebuild it (2010 MDX) The question: If burning 1qt. of oil every 1,000 miles is normal for this engine, then why haven't we burned a drop in 5,000 miles since the engine was rebuilt? We just received a letter informing us of a class action lawsuit against Honda in the Superior Court of California, County of LA against Honda on this "Oil Consumption" issue. I hope they nail Honda's asses to the floor on this because they are "screwing" a whole lot of customers out there with this "so called" 1qt of oil every 1,000 mile thing is normal crap! Bottom line, we will never purchase another Honda product, ever......not even a lawn mower!
@@scottybd4919 Hi I finally got approved for the rebuilt on my 6spd TL 3.17.20. Due to corona scare I ll have to wait till mid Apr for repairs, dealing with this since 2011.....
@Ryanvision How is the MDX going for you? I'm thinking about buying one that had the recall work done last year in 2019. Has the repairs fixed the problem completely for you, or did it just reduce the oil consumption? Would you recommend me buying the MDX or look at other models?
@@Zn0nimus Problem has been completely resolved for me. No more issues with burning oil. Vehicle has been amazing other than that so now that that's fixed I love it. We are actually towing a pontoon boat regularly with it now with no issues. The only annoyance at the moment is the seat/mirror memory is a bit weird. Think I may need to replace the buttons or something because it doesn't always go to my setting the first time.
@@Zn0nimus I know you didn't ask me, but I have experience with five J35 V6 engines in the past 20 years. One went 200K miles before trade-in... never needed to add oil between changes. Have a '13 Accord at 110K that burns NO oil. I wouldn't take the risk of a J37... More recent models with 3.5L engine are a safer bet.
Thank you Ryan. We are so happy we found your first video. We took our car to our mechanic because oil light was on. He said this may be a bigger problem than what you are expecting and we should do more research. Searching the Internet we found your TH-cam video. The extended warranty period is expiring on September 1, 2019. From today that’s only 52 days from now. We called the dealer and they told us to come on in and they would do a certified oil change and begin the process.We found your video just in time thanks again Ryan.
Thank you for leaving this comment because this is the EXACT reason I made the videos!! If it helps just one person, mission accomplished. Hopefully everything goes smoothly for you and your vehicle will be good as new in no time. Cheers!
Warning warning warning! I went through the same thing. My MDX 2010 was consuming 1 2/3 quarts every thousand miles. I brought it in for the oil consumption test and they actually overfilled it quite a bit and then told me that it did not qualify. I am a backyard mechanic and very good at this stuff, but they almost had me second-guessing myself. So, I did another Thousand Mile check on my own and saw it was consuming oil like crazy and realized they were trying to pull a quick one. I talked to the service manager who agreed, especially after I showed him my TH-cam videos, to do another consumption test and have me supervised the whole thing. Sure enough they confirmed it was guzzling oil and they agreed to do the job. What a pain in the ass although I am glad I got it all done for free including the initial oil change.
Seems a few folks have run into the same overfilling tactic. Glad you called them out and got it taken care of!
Acura is the new Nissan... JUNK
Yeah they played me a couple years ago and now im more informed and adding 1 qt every 2 weeks. I wonder if i should press them on this issue again.
@@mindfull777 I ended up threatening them with a TH-cam video.
@@photojunkysdronezonevlog yeah but the recall is over. Good luck trying to get it done now I bet
I actually had the excessive oil consumption issue (burning 1 quart every 1000 miles) with my 13 TL shawd 3.7 j37a4, 6spd. Didnt do the recall on it to get the piston rings changed. And it was too late for me since mileage and age was past the extended warranty for the tsb. So I went out, raced revved it on the highway 4-5 time. And problem solved, the heat and high revs broke loose the carbon build up, and after that, no more oil consumption. You just have to race it a few times a month to clean the engine of the carbon build up on the piston rings.
I had to pause the video after you shared what they charged for the timing and serpentine belt replacements! This is what I’m hoping our dealership will do. Amazing!
Yeah I was shocked when I saw the price.. couldn't sign the paper fast enough haha
@@ryan.vision you know why ? cause they have to take both belts off and they cost about $20 each, so putting a new one isn't any more work. Big profit for them! not a $170 part. heck I bought all parts (timing, tensionner, pulleys, water pump, serpentine) for $200 OEM on amazon (Aisin TKH-002) and spent not much more in labor to put it in. I would never go to dealer for anything but warranty work... 2007 MDX blue tooth killing my batteries is another story they won't fess up...
Thanks for the video. I just bought an 09 Acura MDX and I've had it for about three weeks now and yesterday a low oil message appeared on the dashboard. I went home and checked it right away and it looked it was at 60% since it was topped off with an oil change before I bought the car.
I don't have an Acura dealer close by but the local Honda dealership has said the will work with me on the oil consumption test which is nice. If I do need the engine repair to fix I'd have to go to the Acura dealership which is about 50 miles away. This is in the Pacific Northwest
Sounds like you're burning quite a bit. I think it will be well worth the 50 mile trip to get the MDX all fixed up. Right now you're probably feeling pretty sour about the purchase (as I was) but you'll feel a lot better like you came out on top once everything is squared away. Best of luck to you!
Yes about feeling a bit of regret about buying this. And the crazy thing about even getting this car on Acuras radar here is the fact that this car was exported here from Canada. I'm working with Acura of USA and Canada with case numbers from each one. So far they've both been very responsive. We'll see what happens
I hope it all works out in your favor. Please let me know the outcome when all is said and done.
Hi there Ryan. I have a 2010 Acura TL shawd. I am in the middle of the oil consumption test at Neilo Acura in Roseville. I am at about 1k miles and my dipstick is below the lowest dot on the dip stick. Going to take mine in this Friday to see what they say. If the timing belt is that price I definitely will replace it as well. Hopefully they will take care of me the same they did to you.
I hope they take care of you as well! Please keep us posted with how things go after you've taken it in.
Update. Went in today and I was around 1200 miles. Got approved for the fix. They’re scheduling me out 4/2020 for my fix. Not happy. I’m not even sure if my vehicle is safe to drive that long. All they said were they are very busy and hopefully they can get more workers so they’ll be able to get this taken care of sooner. :(
@@MrMrclown34 i have the same problem and car how long is this warranty/ recall good for bought my acura tl shawd this summer and what exactly did you do so i can start doing the same hopefully im able to still its barely at 100k miles just hit that last week
@@erikgonzalez1243 mine was around 140k miles. And was confirmed to exceed the test minimum limits. Got everything replaced and new camshaft due to pitting.
I'd advise you to look into the oil consumption settlement. I stopped following the oil consumption threads online since it was fixed on mine in early 2020. You can call a local dealer with good reputation too. The one I went to took good care of me so im happy.
@@MrMrclown34 whats the settlement for? Would i qualify still even of im the second owner or what do i do to get it or look information about that ? So they fix it and give you a settlement i just dropped my car off today there going to fix the oil consumption since the last over got the test done just forgot to do it so i got lucky ,
Thank you for this video. I'm a proud owner of a 2013 3.7 Ltr. MDX and I too have noticed oil consumption, very satisfied otherwise with the vehicle. I do qualify for this recall, phoned the dealer after watching, I will begin my journey this Monday.
Glad the video was able to bring this to your attention!! Hope your journey is a smooth one!!
Thanks for this!! I'm currently having this problem with my 2011 MDX. I did recieve the letter in the mail, I'm gonna take it to the dealer this month.
The sooner the better because more and more people are becoming aware and each dealership can only handle so many repairs before the deadline. Hopefully they take good care of you and your MDX!
@@ryan.vision thanks.. I bought the truck on Dec1 2018 no problems other than that. We got an Oil change in March we already added 2 quarts we still got 60% oil life my wife only drove 900 miles since the oil change. So there's a major loss in oil.
Yeah, sounds like yours is drinking as much as mine was. I'm sure they'll take care of you.
@@outrightpainting2203: My dealer (in Colorado) required three 1,000 mile oil consumption tests. Similar to Ryan, twice I took it in early due to the fact the oil dipstick had no oil on it at all by 850 miles & 930 respectively. Service tech said he only added 1.1 quarts at 850 miles and 1.15 quarts at 930? Be ware! The hash-marks (1/2" long) on the dipstick represents 1 quart of oil. There is another 1/2" to the bottom of the stick below the hash-marks. This represents another quart of oil per my own tests but my dealer was fudging the numbers to their favor by saying it was only down 1.15 quarts! When I came unglued about this and called them out, the service tech shrugged his shoulders and insisted that's how much oil they added to top it out. I demanded to speak with the service manager who assured me they'd do the right thing but he insisted we finish the test before getting too upset. At 600 miles I took it in for the final check, which was 2,380 total miles driven. MDX burned 3.5 quarts total. Very excessive. They plan to start repairs next Mon. to replace the rings, pistons, adjust the valves and replace all of the seals. My point to this is, even though my MDX had no oil on the stick 3 times, they were cheating the numbers when topping out the oil. Still it was so excessive that they had to admit the car had serious oil consumption issues. Be ware folks! Not all dealers are equal.
@@scottybd4919 thanks for that info..
Nice vid! Its very informative. I just called my local dealer to request the consumption test. I did my oil change 5 days ago with oil down to 30% per indicator and found less than 2 Quarts of oil left. I have been noticing increase of oil consumption for the last three times I did the oil change. So I think I may have gotten stung with the recall...smh.
Sorry to hear you fell victim to the issue but I hope everything gets taken care of!!
Thanks for sharing . Just hit a thousand miles on my certified oil change. Waiting to see what they tell me. It's not quite off the dipstick but it's at the bottom.
You're probably somewhere between 1.5 and 2 quarts lost if at the bottom. Let us know how it goes!
RYANVISION will do.
My 2017 Honda CRV has this problem. I got it certified used 1.5 years ago, it had a bad brake booster, which took 4 months and a few calls to Honda to get the dealer to fix under warranty. Then I noticed the oil problem after the warranty expired. It appears to be the same ring problem as Acura. I will ask my Honda dealer, 5 minutes from my house, to look at it. They were the ones that would not honor the certified warranty and I took it back to the dealer who sold me the car. Too bad. I had several Honda's over the years and never had any issues and dealers where always great. Not anymore.
Man I started having problems starting January with oil consumption problems with my AWD 2012 TL and I have been changing my oil regularly.. Never letting my oil life get below 50% on the dash . Engine started to lose power and acceleration when I’m driving. Rpms struggle to shift in high rpms 4-5k rpm.. had a local garage look at it and they couldn’t work on it and recommended I call Acura since they found there was a recall. Pissed off to find the date of the recall ended September 2019.. and I purchased the car from a dealership which they said was out of warranty in November 2020.. them bozos screwed me..
How much oil are you consuming? I was burning quite a bit and didn't have any of the other issues you mentioned. I wonder if maybe you have other issues going on in addition to the oil consumption. Or maybe the oil burning has fouled your spark plugs? Any check engine light?
Thanks for this not sure if I will qualify but I just bought a used Acura TL 09 139k from and Acura dealer and it’s burning oil like crazy contacted them right away and they booked an appointment to check it out
Good luck! Hope it all works out because these cars are great other than the oil issue.
@@ryan.vision just believing that it will work out….yeah they are I test drive it and fell in love with it. I started questioning why Acura dropped the ball, they should’ve continued making cars like this
Local Acura dealerships are selling these pre-owned 3.7 engines without revealing the issue. It's sickening. I love the look of the mdx, but I don't want a smelly oil burning pig.
I'm surprised they're able to get away with that!! This pig is running like a champ now. Been pulling a boat with it since June and it's doing great without consuming oil. Finally feeling better about the purchase.
@@ryan.vision Im not sure what they could have done to fix it...sounds like they just put the same (new rings) back in it. Whose to say it want happen again
I just bought a preowned 2011 MDX last week on 10/18/2019. Dealer said there were no outstanding recalls. I also checked NHTSA and Acura/recalls both showed no recalls for the VIN. Come to find out a week later that it's burning 1.5 quarts per 1000 miles. What should I do to try to do to get service? Any advice?
I think they categorize it as something other than a recall, so maybe that's why nothing showed up? I think the wording to use with the dealer would be oil consumption test for the known oil control ring issue. Hopefully that will open some doors of communication, but it does look like the date originally sent out has passed. Maybe they can still work with you.
My 2012 went in shop today I was burning 2qrts every 1000miles my question is with the addons there offering to do my timing belt for $900. Seems really high compared to what they did yours for did you haggle that price or was that offered to you? I do want to have the belt done but I'm not sure if my service rep is working on commission or what not, he also offered the valve adjustment at $800.
Those prices are very high. In fact, that sounds like the normal pricing to me. I don't recall the exact numbers I mentioned in the video but it was around $170 for timing belt and $300 or so for valves. No haggling, that was the price they proposed if I wanted to do it. It was on a sheet they had printed out to show people the options. You may want to talk to the manager about the pricing.
WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN 08 3.7L MDX ENGINE AND THE 2010 2013 ENGINE
NIGHTMARE EXPERIENCE !!!!!!! I own a 2010 MDX, and received notice of an extended warranty for the oil consumption problem. I took it to the Authorized Acura Dealer for repair. REPAIR was never done. I still have 2-3 QT oil consumption and every warning light in the car goes on and off. Im at my wits end with the dealership and Honda/Acura corp. Getting the runaround. Anyone else experience similar issues?
Just curious, but did anyone's dealership refund the cost of the "certified" oil change after the consumption test and qualifying for the warranty work? Mine was $75, which is steep imo. Acura should reimburse if the vehicle qualified.
I don't think mine was reimbursed. It was around $50 I believe.
@@ryan.vision thanks buddy. Your video was very helpful and relatable
Is the oil consumption problem doing any harm to the catalytic converter?
That's a great question. I was able to pass smog without issues during and after the oil consumption issue, but I'm sure it couldn't have been good for it. I noticed a lot of black on the exhaust tips before I got the issue fixed.
You know it is...that oil has to go somewhere. I bet that cat is completely gummed up.
What is the oil volume range for the hashed region on the dipstick? I thought it was a 1qt range. When I took my car in, it was reading below the lower hash line. They said it took only 0.75qt to fill. So below the 1 qt minimum loss. Claimed I must have been on a slope when I took my measurement.
I can't say for sure but most vehicles that is 1 qt range so you can estimate how much you need to add during top offs
Bruce: Read my reply to @kevin Burr above to answer your question. It's a little long but I think worth the read........
i bought a 2011 mdx at acura of serramonte and they sold it to me with oil leaks from the oil filter housing, oil pan gasket and the rear main seal, quoted me 5k and when i brought it in about the recall they just gave me a free oil change and said to fix the leaks first to do a proper test🤦🏽♂️, i know it was leaking cause i changed the oil myself just 2 weeks into ownership and only 1.5 quarts came out, got the whole bottom and top engine steam cleaned to find the leaks and they still denied it all, car finally broke down 5 years later as of 2 months ago
Sorry to hear that. I've heard about them denying folks from getting the fix due to existing leaks.
thats some bullshit right there and they'd know about it.
Did you have to break in after the repair or can you just ride it?
They didn't tell me to do any special break in but I drive this car pretty mellow.
Never buy a Honda odyssey with a iVTEC with VCM engine.; They also burn oil because of faulty engineering . My 2005 Odyssey started to burn oil at 122K miles..There is no recall bulletin for 2005 but Honda lost a class action law suite and give 2008-2010 odyssey owners a 8 yr-extended warranty so they could bring in their vehicle to have the rings replaced. The 2008-2010 Odyssey owners have the same issue premature engine oil burning around the rings. The dealer wanted 8Kto repair my 2005 odyssey but could not guarantee that the engine could get anther 50K mile after new rings were put in. Don't buy Odyssey that has a iVTEC with VCM technology. That technology is still being used on the 2021 Odysseys. Buyer beware you buy at your own risk..
I'm happy to report that the MDX is still running great and no longer burns oil after the free repairs, but I feel bad for those with MDX and similar vehicles who were unable to get the free repairs. I always thought Honda/Acura was a company that didn't have these sorts of problems, which is why I bought Honda/Acura vehicles. I still have the MDX but sold my Honda Accord and bought a Tesla. Very happy with the Tesla after 1.5 years and zero maintenance so far.
The Pilot from the same era uses that VCM 3.5 shit and it's the same way.
@@jasonsims007 that vcm engine was designed by the Honda engineers in 🇺🇸. The engineers in Japan are more talented and more conscientious about the product b4 it goes out the door. . The same goes with Benz. If yhe car comes from Alabama or south Africa, the quality control and engineering is substandard.
@@henrylee2964 SPOT ON
Valve adjustment?! It would seem they would do that as a matter of course when they remove and reinstall the heads.
These engines have dual overhead cam with a timing belt, not pushrod driven. The entire head comes off as a unit.
RYANVISION hey great video man, I have 2014 TL 3.7L it’s also burning oil but slowly not as fast as yours. my oil is on the low line at 20% that’s around 5k,km You think I might be eligible? I’m on the oil consumption test right now.
I'm not sure if it will qualify but hopefully it will because it might get worse later depending on your mileage. Seems they're looking for at least a quart or more per 1000 miles.
RYANVISION yes that’s what I told them too it will get worse my car only has 70,000km started to burn oil at 40k but It will increase as time goes
I got on a list about a year ago and they said it would take 12 months wait to get it done. Now they are telling me another 12 months. Is this normal?
No, I would ask to speak with a manager or contact Acura directly and provide proof that you tried to get it resolved prior to the deadline.
Acura told us they didn’t have the parts.
MY test done..Said bring it in and they will fix N/C...1 week later..done, checked oil at 500 miles...could not see it drop..1200 miles checked again, maybe lost a little..changed at 3500 miles maybe 1/2 qt low..I'm happy!! runs great this is a 2010 MDX with now 140k on it...good luck
Glad to hear yours is much better now!! Mine is doing great after the fix as well and we're loving the MDX again!!
So when they replaced the pistons did they basically put in a brand new engine block??
No, block wasn't changed. There was no damage to the cylinder walls so new pistons and rings were the primary fix.
No, block wasn't changed. There was no damage to the cylinder walls so new pistons and rings were the primary fix.
I took my 2011 mdx to the dealer Aug 30 for the test. They put the kit on to monitor the oil but they said I had a oil pressure pump leak which is common but not leaking on the ground. They told me they won't fix the consumption because the oil pump leak. Smh
Sorry to hear that man but it was worth a shot. You did everything you could.
@@ryan.vision actually they said rear main seal has a minor leak but I didn't see any oil in that area. I'm still gonna take it back after 1000 miles or before to show them its drinking oil. But great car though
Parts everything might cost around $1000.max.
You mean if you fix it yourself? I'm not sure. Dealer cost will be a lot more than that with parts and labor.
It wasn't 100% clear, but did you in fact opt for the oil seal replacement or skip?
I did not. Since the pump is internal (no oil was leaking outside of the engine) and I didn't have any oil pressure issues, I didn't think it was worth the money to mess with it. I had them do the timing belt and adjust the valves along with new spark plugs. I passed on the water pump because I had records of that being done recently. The MDX is running like a champ now, still no leaks, and no more burning oil!!
@@ryan.vision on some engines oil seal can seep externally. My engine is seeping externally and it was noted when I had my certified oil change. My fear is that they will say that with that leak the test is void and I will have to get that repaired and do the oil consumption test again. But since they repaired yours it gives me hope. Now that this recall is public it's going to be hard to sell an MDX unless the oil consumption issue has been corrected. Like yours, my MDX is a weekend dog hauler. Burning some oil is not a terrible thing but with premium fuel at current prices, plus oil at 11 bucks a quart it can get a little expensive to operate MDX
Hopefully they take care of you just like they took care of me. They didn't mention anything about leaks or the oil pump until they had the engine apart. If they had tried to deny me right in the beginning based on any type of leak I would have argued because my driveway doesn't have a spot on it and in my mind it would have to leak some serious oil to be disqualified. I hear ya on the gas prices.. I'm CA paying the big bucks for gas... I hate when they mention the national average of 2 something while I'm paying just about double haha best of luck to ya!!
Do you think it would be a good idea to buy a 2011 acura tl with the 3.7 with 90k miles, I'm confused because I have no way of really checking if it burns oil
I would ask the owner about burning oil. They may lie to you, but worth a try. Check exhaust tips to see if the bottom is black. Check the oil to see if it's dark and smelly. Ask if they were aware of oil issue and if they had it repaired. If they say yeah, ask for paperwork. It's a gamble unless there's any documentation.
I don't have any Problem with my 06 TL..I own it for seven years now...
Must be one of the lucky ones! Tons of folks are running into this issue unfortunately and now it's too late to get a free fix.
How long you had to wait before getting the cars in for the repairs, I’m asking because my mdx is been approved for the repairs but my dealer is taking so long to get the vehicle in for the repairs because they said parts are on back order
Once it was approved to be fixed, they scheduled an appointment about 2 weeks out. I dropped the car off on a Tues morning and picked it up Friday afternoon. They did say that I got in early though which was good because they expected things to get backed up as more people became aware. I didn't have any delays due to parts not being available.
Dealerships in Canada keep saying warranty expired in May instead of September
That's possible, not sure what the Canadian mailer said. Maybe someone else has a copy of it?
Do you think they'll still do it (7/26/2000)?
Not sure, but wouldn't hurt to try. Give Acura or your local dealer a call and see if you get lucky!
Our 2011 Acura Mdx has the issue eats more than a quart every 1000 miles, we have been waiting for Acura dealer to fix it, it has been 7 months i feel like they are avoiding me! Never buy another acura again only Lexus or Toyota.
If you have documentation of your dealership visits, discussions, etc., you should contact Acura directly and let them know you're not happy with the service you're receiving from the dealership. There may be action they can take or perhaps another dealership you could work with.
@@ryan.vision Just contacted Acura and they assigned a mediator to help me with my case. He confirmed that i am on the list too . I just need this junk fixed.
They shouldn't charge you any labor except parts and the recall parts no charge at all.
Only out of pocket expense I paid was for the certified oil change to determine if my vehicle qualified for repairs. Other than that, I paid a bit extra for valve adjustment and a new timing belt which were completely optional. Just wanted to make sure this rig is solid for many more years.
Acura Canada is cheaping out on this.
Shame on Acura Canada. Not impressed.
Really sorry to hear that. Any chance you're able to take it across into the US? Might be worth looking into if you're not too far from the border.
Acura Canada reached out to both me and my brother-in-law for our respective TL and MDX. We're currently in the processor the consumption test right now. We'll see how it goes, but they just topped up 1.3 litres and my oil is at 70%.
@@uncleleo123456 can you please tell me how this went for you? I just want to be prepared for this.
I am 300 miles into me test now
I bought a 1994 Nissan in 1997. The transmission failed 9months into ownership. I swore off Nissans forever and I have made good on that promise. I bought my 2012 TL SH-AWD at 19k. It is burning oil at 90k. Like Nissan, I will never buy another Acura.
I had a 2003 Nissan 350z track edition in Daytona blue with a 6 speed and the Brembo brakes... drove the crap out of it for over 10 years and never had a single issue other than having to replace a power window motor. I think all auto makers have their bad years/models, just gotta do our research to make sure we don't buy the lemons.
dealerships are such a rip off man smh and those things are so easy to do :( i just changed my serpentine belt on my 2009 MDX
Yeah, belts, alternators, plugs, brakes, etc are pretty straight forward, but when it comes to stuff like valve adjustment, timing belt, ring replacement, oil pump, that's when I take it to the pros.
Wait wait wait hold the horses. What happened to Jeep Videos?
David Pepiton more on the way soon sold the ZJ but got an LJ project
Damn it!!! You were my ZJ go to! I just acquired a 5.9 Limited!
RYANVISION not that I plan to alter it because it’s all original low mileage, but I have 2-5.2 liter ZJ’s.