Everlast Update... They DID send an email that ended up in the spam..
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- UPDATE and NEWS from Everlast. . My new Everlast 212 was DOA. Everlast wants me to test a few things... Tested and Told them the results. PrimeWeld has truly SHOCKED ME !
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Ship the Everlast back in the Prime Weld box!!! 😁
Be interested to see if Everlast steps up to the plate, too.
was thinking the same thing....
OK you are officially the third person to think that! I was the First :)
Make sure the Prime Weld label is very visible, hehe@@10swatkins
actually, I was thinking you would send back in the Primeweld box......I am too old and slow to ever be first in anything these days, glad to see you be given the chance to compare a different machine.....looking forward to seeing some action with this machine Steve, best wishes from Florida, Paul.....@@10swatkins
You changed the polarity by switching the lugs on the front of the machine. That's a great machine and prime weld great company
I have had a very similar experience with the green welders.Lack of ignition,gas solenoid sticking,display quit, amperage adjust not working and other problems as well.I replaced the gas solenoid with the one they sent me and it is sticking again.
They also told me to try to repair it myself and told me that it was,and I quote,"the cost of ownership". The moment I heard that, neverlast was dead to me. I bought 2 of their machines ,250 EX and the 255 EXT. I am done. I will get the Primeweld 325 now.
The 'cost of ownership'?? I don't think I'm ever gonna have that cost....or a green machine after hearing this.
I am sorry to hear that... Funny how some companies just don;t get that their reputation is out there for everyone to see with the internet now..
Giddy-up, PrimeWeld! You guys *stepped up* for sure. This is amazing!
That they did!
You are a lucky man Steve,and big shout out to prime weld,he’ll even I’m impressed,thanks for the video.
I was impressed with what Primeweld did!
Shout out to PrimeWeld for stepping up and just sending a new Welder for nothing! 👍
Steve you should send the EverBroken machine back in the PrimeWeld box. 😂
Looking forward to a head to head comparison, the PrimeWeld looks like a decent machine got a quick cursory glance.
I thought of that :) The accessories are a better quality for sure.
Man you are one lucky guy . That was really good for PrimeWeld to send you a new welder. Some company. I have never heard of them until now...
I was truly surprised when that showed up! I bought on of their plasma cutters about three years ago and when I was looking for a new mig I never even thought about them... My Bad!
So far, Everlast is now For EverGONE.
Thanks for the interesting follow up on this product. True competition always improves the product and lowers the price. You can see it working so well with these two competitors.
Thanks for watching!
Looks like Don is getting a new welder. 😀
Naw he still likes his.... Thinking my son might not have to fix the Miller I gave him.....
I think Everlast has the replacement sitting there ready to ship but they are waiting for the DOA one to show up. This is not the first time I've heard of Primeweld stepping up. And when their customers have problems they respond quickly as well. I've bounced between Green and Black on a Plasma cutter but this tips the scales over to Black for sure.
I have a 60 plasma cutter from Primeweld.. It woks well, After I replaced the consumables. There is a couple of videos on my channel about it. Just search for primeweld..
I had an issue with one of my Miller welders many years ago, fixed it myself and told them about it in a nice letter so they could highlight the issue with their quality folks. They sent me back a nice letter thanking me for my inputs and a box that contained ever accessary that they made for that machine.....that machine is still welding like the day I first plugged it in.
I had an issue with the first miller 140 about 22 years ago and it was pure hell dealing with the people at miller, including the " Engineer". Took it to 2 shops and finally to a 3 who skipped over all the technical stuff and just replaced the liner! :)
Looking forward to seeing how this new PrimeWeld box stacks up......I do most of my welding work with a Lincoln 255 these days...it's one of those Red machines.@@10swatkins
WOW that's great. I've heard good things about Primeweld.
When I was looking around I forgot all about them... The build on the machine looks great.
That is so nice I will check out prime weld since they care love good companies
It's not that you have problems, It's how you take care of the problems that count!
Thanks for the update 🇨🇦
You bet
I have the everlast mts211si, had issues with the gas valves opening at the same time. Welp sent it to the mainland (I live in Hawaii, shipping was 500.00 round trip) and it came back worse than I sent it. Worked with Matt at everlast and he helped me get it running again. Gas still comes through both mig & tig gas vales. Impressive I'm going to use this machine as a fluxcore welder and get the prime weld 325x to tig with.
Sounds like a plan!
Wow...really impressed with PrimeWeld just as I'm in the market for a MIG welder. The head to head comparison will be interesting.
It will be soon, as soon as the replacement gets here...
I would send the everlast back and not look back
Primeweld in my book has the best customer service of any manufacturer
And i bleed blue & grey (hobart)
I bought the Primeweld tig 225x
It’s awesome for the money and portable
Just an off the cuff thought on the machines... The everlast has a nicer control board and a few more features, The Case and Accessories for the Primeweld are better made. I don't need the bells and whistles that the Everlast has for settings as I have gotten by for 25 years with just two knobs....... We will see which welds better...
And so far Primeweld services for my plasma has been much better.
The PrimeWeld is a bit cheaper than the green one as well as being heavier. I think they've made their point even if you never fire it up. Good on them!!
Fitted out with the flux core rollers and a 15' gun they were almost the same. The rollers and 15 gun were standard with the Primeweld at 999.00 and free shipping. The Everlast was with free shipping but the 15' gun and rollers were extra... Total all in was 1050.00
@@10swatkinsactually an Everlast welder with the same output amperage would be a lot more. Primeweld sent you their top on the line MiG welder.
Give the Everlast to Don as he may need parts for his later on😊.AL B.
Ah different machine, I have the 230i mig.
Hell he told me he needed two machines because he is so good and fast he needed one for his Left Hand!
Don, you are always right on top of the situation......cheers from Florida, Paul @@donmadere4237
haha.....@@10swatkins
One thing about China products is you can go directly to them and have them change labels and redesign and start your own company BUT still have to order a lot of them to get prices down enough, Everlast has been dealing with them for years so they order a truckload and have low prices.
Might not have to worry about China tools a lot in the future, other countries are taking their place for cheap products...
China seems to be in a lot of trouble now.. Lots of factory closings and shipping all the tools to other countries, 25 % unemployment and huce property debt.... They will probably start a war to keep the population happy....
Steve you are not the first person I've heard say that the Chinese are almost ready to start a war to placate their population!
I just got done shipping something back to Amazon. The delivery guy came with the shipping label. I handed him the box and he put the label on it. No one had to ship me a label. Everlast is just giving you the runaround.
I was surprised by the snail mail label, I didn't push the issue past asking for them to send me the new unit and I would use the box and packing to ship the bad one back. I was giving them a test to see what happened, so far they are not doing very well...
@@10swatkins no one can afford to do too well these days. Too many will take advantage of a good nature.
Thats called smart advertising by prime weld. Should bring them more clients who may be considering the Dead Green machine China special..
Id check out the prime welder and back shelf the comparison besides the new welder is a step up. Quality alone shows it.
Very Smart!
Based on the many positive comments on Prime Weld and negative ones on EverLast I’d bet 10 dollars to a box of donuts that EverLast loses at least 1000 sales on this faulty unit.
Steve, you should send the Everlast back in the PrimeWeld box and get your money back from Everlast. 😂
First thing I thought of :)
Best comment here! Lol
Clearly, Everlast should be avoided. Project Farm released a video testing many cheap MIG/Multi Process units and Everlast wasn’t even one of those tested. I watched because you had just published the first video unboxing and testing that hunk of junk. That says a lot right there, he didn’t even consider it. Selected testing units were well within the price point of that you paid for that pile of junk. For sure, stay away from EverCrap.
When I worked at a big box store, we would accept returns of lumber that had been used as concrete forms. But they had to check my backpack every day to make sure *I* wasn’t stealing from them 🙄
Sometimes the people in charge have no clue
Haaaa
Use the prime weld box to send the green machine back .
First thing I thought about :) GMTA or Evil minds think alike :)
you got that right Steve....@@10swatkins
I like your Northern Tool shop stool.
Sorry you can't have it :)
Steve, ship the Everlast machine back to them inside the box you just received
I beat you to that idea :)
So the part of this I find annoying is the Everlast was brand new. A customer should NEVER have to diagnose a brand new machine regardless of brand. Support should be smart enough run you thru basic troubleshooting to know if the machine works with a few minutes. At that point they know you have a DOA and you should have a new machine in route within 24 hours. We can be certain that someone that watches your channel tipped off Prime Weld and initiated your new welder. Time will tell but from what I've heard from customers that PrimeWeld is going to spank that Everlast in a side by side.
I think you are right on all the major points... Thanks for watching!
Im sad you went through this i personally have an everlast cyclone 262, a 250ext ac dc tig and a 325 ext ac dc tig machine. I havent ever had an issue and the oldest my 250ext has built 50 plus 16 foot aluminum trailers with no issues. Makes me sad to see that everlast may be going down hill.
good video steve
Thanks!
Sticky situation there Steve. Prime weld seem to be taking advantage of the situation for some very cheap advertising. I think at the end of this palaver whichever you decide to keep you should donate the other machine to a worthy cause, eg a Museum workshop or a school etc.
It is... Don't have very much luck donating things around here... They all want money instead... Said too much liability taking in tools that are considered second hand..
I bet there are some young lads or laddies who would appreciate.....@@10swatkins
Exactly
That was really nice of them! Hopefully it works better then the Everlast if you do a weld off. I told you my whole experience with Lincoln. It was so frustrating because I really needed it just like you did but at least you had back up, I didn’t. How is the Prime plasma cutter? I was gonna buy one but unfortunately I had to put my 170 Great Dane to rest so between the price of that and I think I found myself a new shop buddy I’m gonna put a deposit on that about sums up my extra money right now. But I can wait for a plasma cutter, but I can’t wait for a new shop buddy. I miss my boy so much! I think I did nothing but cry for about three days. This only happened last Wednesday. Good luck with your new welder. Oh by the way I forgot to check my notifications to see if you read my comment about what happens with Lincoln. I shoulda bought the Everlast!!
It was really nice of them! I have a poor dog that is knocking on the door so I feel your pain...
@@10swatkins oh no, I’m so sorry. He was a 9 year old 175lb Great Dane. He was such a handsome boy we all loved him very much! He was up my butt no matter what I was doing. I loved it! We should be getting our new boy in two weeks. I can’t wait!
Hey Steve I put a deposit on a 6 week old Great Dane today. He can’t replace my old shop pal, but we can start a new adventure together! Wish I could post pics on here. Do you have Facebook?
Steve you have us all on pins and needles, I need to buy a welder, my 25 year old Esab layed down on me, don’t think I will consider Everlast need a report on the Prime Weld
New one is out
Typical Primeweld packaging, they always get the boxes right.
It was nice... But the Everlast was pretty good also...
Give one to Don.
His Everlast is still going strong.....
I have three PrimeWeld machines and could not be happier with them. If you are going to get rid of one of those I would suggest the Everlast
We will see :)
Its x-mas in September :0
Doesn't feel that way to me... Just complicates things a little...
Looks like pure Chinesium to me.
Probably also smells that way, too.
According to Don, who has an electronics degree and years of experience, it is built better than most... I am searching for where Miller has their electronic boards made....
@@10swatkins Electronic design of my china plasma cutters isn't bad, it's just horrible build quality and parts that are maxed out to the limit, china 200A welder has transistors, diodes that are barely rated to 200A, whereas in Fronius, Lorch, ESS, everything is spec'd 1.5-2x above maximum current, 450A ESS TIG welder has 3x200A AC/DC transistor modules, 420A Lorch has something like 8x120A Mosfets in AC/DC converter.
Thereby shit reliability, if welding/plasma cutting at higher currents, fried rectifier diodes or mosfets on switching supply all the time on my plasma cutters.
And it's certainly no Everlast, it's just Chinesium with Everlast name, no own development, just cloned stuff all over and over again.
No brainer,it welds the other to big for a door stop
"We're going to need a bigger Door!"
What has you experience been with the Apollo 3501 operator you have on your bench there?
Pretty Poor... Well Seeing as how that is the first one I've ever seen in the wild so far it's a 100% failure rate :)
They are just not in use around the Houston Area. That one came from close to San Antonio and was replaced with a Liftmaster CSW24.... The apollo has a "rigged" setup to attach to the gate and was not well suited for the gate... They are more common around San Antonio and south because that is where they were first made. Not a fan of the Apollo control boards, especially the 1050. I saw a 4'x4'x4' pallet full of returned boards at one supplier...
@@10swatkins never a big fan of brushed motor dc operators. Elite made a POS called a roboslide and I installed one for a very good customer. In one year we did about a dozen service calls on it and could never track down the issue.
I pulled it almost exactly one year after installing and replaced with a Doorking 9100 at my own expense.
Sent that back and never installed another one. Turned out the commutator had a bad segment and it would intermittently land on the bad spot and not run.
I installed two roboslides and both got pulled and replaced at my expense.
Sounds like they generated UPS shipping label, with generated activity for UPS delivery and there is no UPS shipment just a snailmail for the label.
I think you're right... Just seems a shame that UPS goes ahead and tells you an arrival date :(
All the paint dealers have to do is weigh the returned can of paint. Ron W4BIN
Lowes does well to have a person that can run the computer :)
Steve, is there any news about the Everlast?
Yes.... I have spoken to the president and owner of everlast for 3 hours now... A replacement unit has arrived and I will do a full review and explain everything that has happened.... 99% of it is good... But I have to let the box sit unopened for three weeks again to mess with Don :)
Did you ever get a replacement from Everlast?
Yes... This is a play list of all the stuff on the Everlast I am waiting on Don's 75th Bday to Unbox it! th-cam.com/play/PLdXHEJjySc6jCxLLJwCTu3lqmmUTzrcHE.html
How come they didn’t email you a label for you to print to a QR code to take to the ups store 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
No Idea.... It's done all the time..... It's been one week now with no label...
Don needs a welder, doesn't he?
Naw, he is all set...... And besides he is always telling me "I have no more room for tools!" ( Came back to bite him :) )
EVERlast will you not sitten with a faulty machine.
Marketing opportunity to get in front of eyeballs on youtube. The kindness of their heart and representative of their service as a whole? Not a chance, unless you still believe in the tooth fairy of course, just really cheap and cynical advertising. The interaction at 0:35 tells me all I need to know about what Everlast are dealing with.
Oh that it was... The replacement everlast arrived yesterday, had about three hours of talks with the president and owner of everlast about problems. Learned a lot and hopefully this exchange of information and problems will lead to some changes there. More coming on that....
Steve, did someone threaten you? Correct me if I am wrong but you took your latest video down or I just can’t find it, let us nosey people know what is none of our business.
NO problem Max :) I took it down because it was a mix up and unfair to Everlast.... Go look here for the explanation.... th-cam.com/channels/PRguhKIX-kgWg4h4AHV4oQ.htmlcommunity
Old Steve could shitapon a rock and grow a magical mushrooms 🍄 poor old would just have a rock with poop 💩 on it if his welder broke like most of us
I don't know about magical.... But It does not smell :)
Just having fun I figured you would like that one thanks for replying 👍
@@10swatkins that was supposed to say por old Don
Everlast is too much. Shipping label simply means that they’ve notified UPS of the shipment and where it’s going, but that UPS hasn’t received the package yet. With the possible problems a company may have with credit cards with customers denying payment, it’s a miniscule number. Most reliable companies will accept a credit card and send out a replacement without charging you unless the old one doesn’t come back within some reasonable time. Normally, you get 10 to 15 days to return product or get a replacement if it didn’t work, no questions asked. Everlast always seems to require customers to do testing they shouldn’t be doing (No user serviceable parts inside).
Everlast and Primeweld have been fighting for space in the second tier for welders and plasma cutters. There have been a couple of others, but they seem to have fallen away. The Primeweld has 10 gauge because it’s a plasma cutter too. You don’t need that for these size welders. Plasma cutters have high voltage out, usually 100 volts or higher, so if this is a 30 amp plasma cutter too, it needs 10 gauge.
This one is not a plasma cutter also... Just Lift tig, stick and mig....
@@10swatkins I thought I heard you say that. Maybe not. Then the 10 gauge cord is overkill.
Melgross,
you must remember this is an inverter machine which takes the 110 v or 220 v AC mains and converts to high voltage DC [above 8,000 volts] and then changes this current to low voltage , high amperage......which is suitable for welding or plasma cutting, [plasma cutting is an off shoot of plasma welding which is an off shoot of TIG [GTAW} ......which is a Constant Current process, Like Stick [SMAW or MMA]......the 100 volts of a plasma cutter is open circuit volts.......not the operating voltage. I hope this helps, Paul.
@@ypaulbrown "and converts to high voltage DC [above 8,000 volts]" - haha, I don't think so. Tell me you nothing about how inverters work without telling me you know nothing about how inverters work. The AC is rectified to DC, the most you're going to get is sqrt(2) times the RMS AC voltage, so 220 * (sqrt(2)) = 311V DC. If they're using an active power factor correction rectifier instead of a passive rectifier (essentially a boost converter that compensates for the AC input voltage changing continuously), the DC voltage may be a bit higher, but probably no higher than 600V. Running the DC bus at 8000V would be insane - now you need 8kv caps, and 8kv IGBTs on the other side to do anything with it. Actually it doesn't even make sense in a welder to convert to a higher voltage dc bus in the first place - welding goes probably not a lot higher than 48V - just convert to a 60V or so DC bus directly from the AC using a buck converter, and you've saved extra steps on the secondary side!
High output machine, needs 10 awg, 6mm, banana to metric conversion.
This old Tony did a review on YT the other day, 5 in one welder, does aluminium as well.
Very nice and made in Italy, not China.
Just checking to see to how many shooting deaths you had in Texas his year . I can then check it against world Statistics .
Kit from down 😂
I was a slow year... Didn't have to shoot anyone....
I was going to buy a Prime Weld last year but they were out of stock. I bought a Weldpro instead.
They created a label they didn’t ship it yet pack the welder now and ship it I’m sure they emailed us the shipping label it’s prob in your spam folder this is obvious