I agree that whenever you flip into flower there's a different main focus for the plants energy and nutrients but you can't just forget or stop feeding other nutrients that that plant might actually want but as an organic grower my job is to make sure there is enough nutrient in my bed for whatever the plant wants or needs so I may start to wean off and get away from my vegetative feedings I still try to make sure there's a good mixture of nutrients I have seen calcium deficiencies as you go into flower or even later flower and it's not a problem u want
@john wickk not really but when you're growing outdoors you're usually constantly combating something. But for my indoor grow I minimize who and what can go inside to try to keep a sterile environment.
The immobility of calcium is a strong argument in support of supplying it constantly at background levels throughout the plant lifecycle. Additionally, given that calcium is essential for cell wall development and overall plant health, it continues to play a significant role during all stages of plant development, including flower formation. Calcium contributes to proper cell division and development, processes which remain crucial during the flowering stage as the plant develops buds and flowers.
@@PerfectGardensTV hey man that talk you had with mr grow it was a big eye opener for me. I'll be watching you like a hawk. Question: I've never done a big operation always been a hobbiest grower. You talked about avoiding nitrogen in flower. Most bloom nutrients have some nitrogen. Is this okay? I'll play around with just about any nutrients. Currently using sensi bloom a and b. I'm in strait sunshine pro mix. As winter approaches and I have more time to tend my plants going to add at least 50% perlite.
@@kevinisbell1867 I can answer your question if you don’t mind. When you say that most bloom nutrients contain nitrogen that is simply not true. Fact is that most A and B nutrient lines contain nitrogen in the part B. If you use a 3 part like Micro, grow, bloom they are separated the bloom in a 3 part nutrient line doesn’t contain nitrogen at all. Only P and K in bloom nutrient.
@@surefiremushroomsmicrogreens my sensi bloom is 3 0 0 part a and b is 2 4 8. Should I not be using the part a or should I maybe look into getting something else. Even got some dyna bloom 3 12 6 my medi 1 is supposed to cover veg through to harvest 4 3 3. I'm Kinda lost is this stuff garbage? My buds can be a little leafy but I always kinda figured it was the strain. I've had airy buds bud also bud that thunk when you drop a little bud on the table. I am pheno hunting for quality, like start a new seed clone and hopefully its quality.
Applied knowledge. .. first time ive heard someone other than self state knowledge isn't power, what one does with the knowledge may present power. Amazing comment!
This makes so much sense. I conducted my first hydroponics DWC grow (White Widow autoflowers) earlier this year using General Hydroponics Flora Trio series and Cal-Mag. The plants exploded in size during veg, as expected, but then continued growing during bloom/flower -- fan leaf production was insane (I removed handfuls of them several times each week just to maintain airflow through the canopy). Ultimately, the buds were not dense, lacked potency, and terps were weak too. I thought it was either an autoflower quirk or an overfeeding issue... based on this video, Cal-Mag added during bloom/flower was the actual culprit. God bless you mate!
I'm not so shore of that. Iv got some massive hard buds as round as a big guys arm. I'm useing calmag 😂. Iv got about two weeks to go. I better stop know but.
Probably a genetic issue I’ve always ran cal mag all the way through flower and end with nice dense buds, lots of fan leaves though so I’ll be trying without the cal mag next time
Great video. When we were kids we had to read books on this. Lol. Used to train the plants to stay low to the ground with crochet hooks. Not for yield but to hide them. 😆
THANK YOU! my uncles grew out in the hills back in the old days 60s-90s and they taught me to tye them down. BUT they knew it wasn't just to keep them under the tops of the corn... But it also some how produced tons more. They knew it helped, but never knew why. This has been around for hundreds of years, understanding it is kinda new is all.
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Oh this makes sense. I never really thought about it like this I knew nitrogen was not needed during fruiting or how to say not as much as during veg but this is actually really insightful. Thanks my dude.
During flower I use espon salt and molasses once a week until I start my flush plain water in between the swelling is nice I've been listening to this knowledge and my own is working this channel beginners need seriously dude is on point I learn something everytime 👌
I just grew 7 phenos in coco coir hydroponiclly used cal mag every feeding all the way too harvest yield was 8 ounces average for a first grow, pretty sure Cal mag did me justice ⚖️
Im working in a great video i think the byodynamic growers will love I have never heard a grower say it like this. Im really hoping it helps I appreciate u bro
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@@PerfectGardensTV i'd really like to test it, especially for the flouride and med neutralization... but i can't get it in the EU... you maybe know of something remotely similar for the EU market? talking drops of balance, i already have a super diverse microbe inoculant.
Right on. Great video! I wonder what his views on molasses is as it contains some levels of calcium, magnesium, sulphur, manganese as well as many other nutrients?
excellent video this is a great addition to my video library I have one little thing I would like to add to this we're getting close to the end of the season and a lot of new Growers have tendency to overdo it when the rainflower don't overthrow allies your plants it's a rookie mistake that everybody does happy growing everybody Mike Northern Quebec
I appreciate the way you break the chemistry down, very helpful. I'm glad I was able to find you on the garden talk podcast. Your breakdown of the different forms of nitrogen was an epiphany for me, thank you. Any chance of your store stocking the Nectar line?
You’re gonna carry the Nectar line? Umm, what about ALL the Calcium? They recommend Demeter’s and Persephone’s in Bloom!! Maybe u should clarify how organic sources of calcium are good for the plant in flower! ❤️💛💚
Electrolytes potasium sodium and calcium are used by plants in the same way they are used in mamals, not just in cells to make polymers for stem and leaves with keratin. Its used in the plants "pseudo-muscles" where by electo-differential potential signaling controls the plants ability to position its leaves into better light or away from too much light. Its also heavily involved with respiration, ei opening and closing of the plants many "mouth holes" the stomma that allow co2 and water to enter and exit
So this came up searching calcium in flowering. Because a lot of people are saying we need the calcium in flowering now, So I was searching it. so how true is video now You're thoughts
Got a crazy one for ya, creatine. Yep, creatine has been studied recently by several universities and turns out that creatine is a replacement for nitrogen in plants. In fact, it increased yield by 40% in certain ratios when applied and saves the nitrogen for later as the plant prefers creatine. Add amino acids and creatine to your potting mix, you will be amazed.
I worked in several Hydro Stores / Grow Shops (in Dublin, Ireland). If I had one € for each time I was told that a customer had a “CalMag deficiency” - I would be retired by now. (Well, maybe not retired but Id have a few hundred quid for beer money at the very least!) One guy got aggressive because he thought Ibwas trying to mislead him when I explained that Calcium comes with Nitrogen attached. (As does magnesium in CalMag formulations)…. He got irate and demanded “pure calcium” because he was told that Nitrogen makes buds smaller! He said he would accept cal mag but only without nitrogen… so I sold him Epsom salt (but didn’t bother explaining the sulphate part!) and he said he was gonna find “a proper hydro shop” to get some “pure calcium”…. I asked him to let me know when he finds it because Id live to get some for myself…. That was a few years ago and I’ve not heard from him since.
Idk this kind of goes against my understanding I thought calcium helps immobilize the nutes and is a building block, thus it’s needed during the heavier load of the plans life, like when it’s creating fruit rather it be tomatoes or cannabis it’s necessary for the development of the fruit since that’s a trying time for the plant
Nectar For The Gods is a calcium calcite based organic nutrient line, hands down it is the best nutrient line I have ever used and calcium calcite is far far superior to any salt based nutrient line.
I have had great results with their liquid bone meal 0-6-0. But this has a large amount of Calcium, from what I know, so wouldn't an 0-5-0 liquid Bat guano be superior? I feel like he's against any bone meal, as they have plenty of Calcium, but he didn't actually say it that way. I'll ask as a comment. Maybe he'll chime in? Love Nectar For The Gods!
bat guano if i remember strait has calcium as well but yes i would agree. also depend on the size of plants. Bat G. will be more aviable the bole will take longer unless it is a liquid fyi i like bole meal one of my favorite amendments
I add some oyster shell flour 6 wks from harvest in my living soil grow... Not for calcium. For it's ph buffering properties for the last month of budding.
Calcium seems to be very important for fruiting tomatoes; blossom end rot can be cured on new fruits by watering with milk. So it seems that it could at least be useful for cannabis because the two plants are VERY similar. But what do I know. It could be that because cannabis is photosensitive while tomatoes re not can make all the difference. Thanks Mark, for the knowledge you give us.
Of course Ca is "useful". Don't listen to these stupid myths. Ca is needed for pectin which is essential for building cell walls. And as we all know cannabis buds are a lot of bio mass. Some guys seem to forget that buds are literally stems, leaves and calyxes, not just trichomes lol...
Please feel free to help me to understand! I am always down to learn. I have even had calcium deficiencies show up during flower. So are you saying that you still don't want to give your plant calcium because it's in flower? I'm just confused. And like I say everything states that calcium is an essential compound for promoting healthy flowers. So idk, when it comes to this kind of stuff there are always so many contradicting statements and opinions out there that it's hard to know what to believe
He’s dead wrong and just trying to promote his product line. Cutting calcium in bloom is completely cookoo counterproductive. Ask any big ag farmer if they’d cut their calcium in bloom for their tomatoes or peppers. They’d laugh in his face. Cutting calcium in bloom one ends up with severely underdeveloped fruit and bottom end rot. Why you think Masterblend , Jacks and Athena has calcium in their formula all through seed to harvest.. because it’s absolutely vital.
Thank you PG's, am just going into flower at this time and would typically add Cal/Mag constantly @ EC - 0.1 to a RO base of EC - 0.05 + Grow/Flow nutes at veg stage, making the irrigation feed up to an EC of - 0.7, therefore . . . Cal/mag makes up 1/7th of the total nutes/minerals used up till bloom grown in marginally light-blended all-mix soil in 7 gal fibre pots. Please, What would be a good percentage % of Mag to use? P.S. I also use mix local hard hard water(15%) into the RO so as to add - Natural Rock nutes into the soil because . . . they're natural random rocky nutes alkaline, while my feeds are Ph - 6. Try and maintain an interesting balance . . . :-)
Don't take this the wrong way. I just want to know how you feel about what you've been talking about as far as calcium goes. , do you still believe calcium is not good in all weeks of flowering like ther saying. You're thoughts😊
It's really interesting to me every time I go back and relisten to this video I hear myself say to back off on the calcium As the plant grows it will also need calcium as it grows. The rate of growth though significantly slows down and the need for as much calcium as you would give it during vegetative growth or peak flowering weeks up 5 - 6 After that tho yes i would back off Some of these line way over do it in ca at the end
Great video Mark, thnx. Yeah 1st grow n I'm in flower now. Using living soil n have been top dressing & makin teas with castings n compost n the langbenite n azomite...the girls are budding like mad!
i’ve heard from many growers that calcium helps with botrytis resistance in mid-late flower, would lowering levels of calcium increase risk of bud rot?
What helps is increasing the trace minerals so you have a larger uptake of calcium I would recommend using drops of balance and Bam a reading the $30000 field study report that shows How we are able to reduce both tries by up to 80% th-cam.com/video/4uVZKoMCfkQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QTLmzCDzaKvenoV5 www.perfectgardens.com/products/drops-of-balance-2-oz-solution www.perfectgardens.com/products/16oz-bam%C2%AE-microbial-inoculant-concentrate?_pos=1&_sid=efe990075&_ss=r
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I'm confused when you say back off calcium do you mean ad less or stop giving it because if I tell someone to back off I'm telling them to stop any movement towards me in other words stop.
I use calcium phosphate/liquid bone meal, I make a liquid fish bone meal mixed with oyster shell meal, bone meal, calcium carbonate/chalk and a pinch of rock phosphate all dissolved and stabilize with L.A.B in one huge dissolver/tank. which chelate's everything I need up into my plants way better than anything I've ever used in flower ( desolve everything with two shovels of leaf mold a pinch of suger and fill half way with water in a barrel or bucket this is an anaerobic brew. then add L.A.B once everything starts dissolving and bubbling/ microbial activity 4 months later maybe longer if it's cold, the longer the better, this will create the best bio-available form of nutrients for our type of plants I was once told😁 , then add apple cider vinegar with Mother culture = microbes probiotics/prebiotics, then add L.A.B to stabilize acidity around 5.0-6.0, you can also add Ful-power fulvic acid to speed up the digestion process, keep warm put on heating mat "75 - 85F" under it and make sure all ingredients are finely finely ground up to create more surface area for microbial enzymatic acidic contact/ digestion/reaction, all these steps are necessary so you don't end up with a protein collagen cartilage noodles in the bottom of your Barrel left over bone residue ) you can use this just like Herculean Harvest liquid bone meal. Use protein guar gum for cosmetic and thickin agent it's a stable thickener agent between 1.0-10.0 P.H, making everything thick like a milkshake when shaken up. This stuff really goes hand and hand when you push this calcium concoction with liquid Kelp that has fulvic acid combined with it = jet fuel 1/6 teaspoon ratio with liquid calcium, the more liquid calcium you push the more liquid "kelp mix/bloom khaos " you can push for Rapid cell formation ( 2-3 inch growth everyday and Rock hard high brix, super fruity with crazy treps) , make sure to push a protein-based nitrogen( no sodium based) or L-amino acid nitrogen base protein molecules, NO SODIUM not unless you want Big CLots & Cl-Glunk🤮 of calcium sodium all throughout your medium in gum form 😁... P.s when mixing in bucket your feed it's going to turn out acidic, so all you do is mix a strong stable alkaline concoction at 7.0-8.0 of calcium carbonate/chalk with sterilized distilled water making a milkshake concoction - ( this is just extra calcium in your grow 🤷♂️) - as a ph up method, only takes 1/4 teaspoon to raise P.H, no more sodium based P.H nothing or food🤮, that's it easy peasy.....
I'm curious why you add Vinegar if you already have incredible amounts of microbes in the LABS? Milk/diary has incredibly high microbe levels, not only the types of microbes, but the amount... Not including enzymes and stuff. Also... From what know, Vinegar can kill certain microbes too, it's extremely acidic, so I'm not sure how good it is.... I made Water Soluable Calcuium with some ACV, but never added it to any of my fermentations. I don't believe I've seen it used in KNF/etc ferments, but maybe I'm wrong. I agree with you though, I ferment all of my own fertilizers, and don't worry too much about what I'm feeding ,because the plant takes care of it... Of course, i try to not feed nitrogen rich in flowering/fruiting stages of my plants but you would think the microbes in the soil would take care of that. You know.... I probably should add some more of my kefir mix into my fish batch.... It's been a year, should add more.
@@AlvinKazu I add the ACV because sometimes when I stir it all the calcium carbonate chalk will Spike the pH and it takes so long for it to come down I just assist.
@@AlvinKazu you should have two batches one for vegetative and one for flowering you'll see way better results ( especially once you start tapering your ferments to your plants growth ) .
@@ronevergrow8319Hmm interesting. That would work, but I wonder if there would be other things that also would work as well. I don't PH my ferments or soil, I don't have any issues.
Calcium isn't most drive men met products even if they don't list it. There's a variety of different calciums you could use most important is your biology and your trace minerals I would recommend using drops balance and BAM to help break down and uptake if Ca Here are the links check out the reviews they'll make a world of difference www.perfectgardens.com/products/drops-of-balance-2-oz-solution?variant=46946143961386 www.perfectgardens.com/products/16oz-bam%C2%AE-microbial-inoculant-concentrate?variant=47024278831402
I use Nectar for the Gods which is calcium based. Herculean harvest, which is bonemeal, is supposed to be the most important nutrient during bloom, so this confuses me.
Off topic but it’s frustrating that people see bugs as a problem instead of them pointing at a problem. We have to pick our battles wisely. I gave an outdoor plant a bunch of nutrients and the results where aphids to the max. While most people might freak out about spreading I didn’t and it shows healthy plants get left alone. Unfortunately when humans are dying we make a bunch of noise.
Yeahh!! This croptober curing has delivered some new early samples. it seems the weight is down but the quality is up. Buds are ossified nuggets of resin rather than softer leafier stickier blooms from last year's cal/mag. This year was mostly only mag for bloom time, a little cal mag every 3 feeds but just trace. I follow your advice, Could such a measure have those results?? Water is Rev osmosis because the EC at source is .75 Anyway, had to mention it because the weed is different and it's 10/10 Cheers.
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So I have a 2 pepper plants out of 60 that has blossom end rot. Only the one varietie sugar Rush striped grown in 2 different ways. 1 in a self watering bucket using hydro nutrients and 1 in a raised bed grown organic. Different yards completely. Hydro vs organic but only the one varietie. Could it be the varietie? I added lime and calmag but still getting blossom end rot. Any suggestions? Honestly the organic one might be doing better. Maybe because the roots are in the earth. Should I not be using mega crop in the buckets? The rest are doing great except 1 think got a disease but still not sure. Possibly aphids as I did spray for them. I tossed that 1 as the pods looked horrible.
Minerals are any naturally occurring solid that are inorganic. This means crystaline structures of inorganic atoms. Organic atoms are carbon oxygen nitrogen and hydrogen. Inorganic is everything else.
How fast is Epsom salt available to the plant, especially if your are making a tea. This is the million dollar question for beginner organic organic growers. I have leaves screaming magnesium please and I am using Epsom. Not sure if its even available at all really. If your in flower that means there may or may not be time for it to break down.
I'm not saying that Calcium is something that should be pounded during flower or anything like that. However, everything I have found online about calcium says that calcium is not only needed during flower but it is ESSENTIAL! And these are basic searches on Google. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying everything online is right or even true. I'm just telling you what I have found well searching. It says that although it is not needed in as heavy amounts as veg. It is still 100% NEEDED to produce nice healthy flowers......
@@PerfectGardensTV "I agree, i just recommend to back off the calmag past week 4" Doesn't make sense still. Buds are packing the most weight during the second bloom phase. Ca is needed for pectin which is essential for building cell walls. And I'm sure you're aware that buds are literally stems, leaves and calyxes, in short it's a lot of biomass. It's not just trichomes lol. MJ buds are much more dense and heavier than your average plant flowers (ornamental plants).
In the beginning of flowering the plants grow a lot - some strains even near to double it's size. So during the first 2-3 weeks of the plants needs these (cal & mag)?
Sorry it took so late reply Correct the plant significantly stops growing growing around week 6 and 7 into flowering so I recommend to just slightly backup the calcium I would try Drops of Balance & BAM. The results will blow your mind www.perfectgardens.com/products/drops-of-balance-2-oz-solution?variant=46946143961386 www.perfectgardens.com/products/16oz-bam%C2%AE-microbial-inoculant-concentrate?variant=47024278831402
Bro going into 4 week of flower going to cut of calmeg this feeding using dry nuits when should I start using molasses or can you only use it with organic nuits
Ok....I have an off subject question that I dont know where to ask but I'm willing to bet you can provide a good answer. Im running a 4x4 tent with a 600 watt HLG 600 rspec LED light. I also have about 200 watts worth of additional LED lights that are mostly for tuning my spectrum. They are red, blue, deep red and infrared. I use the blues in veg to keep the nodes short and then use the reds, far red, and infrared during flowering to get the Emerson enhancement effect and use a channel of just the deep red and infrared for 15 minutes at the morning and end of night to simulate a sunrise and sunset effect. I have an 8 inch ac infinity exhaust fan hooked up to an 8 inch carbon filter for exhaust with a 6 inch ac infinity for the intake. Both fans run off the ac infinity controller that can have different set points for temperature and humidity. Now the obvious solution would just be set the temps and humidity as desired and let the controller turn the fans off and on as needed. The problem and my question is what if I want to and I believe need to use added co2 to take full advantage of my high ammount of light being thrown at the plants. I have a tank, regulator, and a titan controls atlas 9 controller with fuzzy logic to keep the c02 at an optimum level. My issue is that the ac infinity fan controller and the titan 9 co2 controller are running independent so there's no way to stop the co2 from being sucked right out of the tent if the fans are on. I know this is simply something I must deal with to some extent when running co2 in a vented environment. My question is to what extent? With the fans running full time I can maintain about 75 to 77 degrees. When they shut down the aprox 800 watts of LED's heat things up pretty quickly. I know with proper co2 levels a higher temperature is acceptable to maintain faster growth but how high is too high? I get varied answers depending on if they are recommending to use a vpd chart or just go with the traditional lower is better. I want to let the Temps get just about as high as possible to keep the fans off and keep from sucking out my co2 so fast. I have tried different combinations of settings with adjusting the flow rate on the co2 and the temperature setting on the fan and it makes a BIG difference on how long my tank lasts. When I try to achieve lower temperatures the fans are on more and therefore more co2 is sucked right out of the tent causing the controller to dump more co2 back in to maintain its set point. My bottles of co2 have lasted anywhere from a couple days to a couple weeks. Long story short.....whats the highest Temps you would recommend with high ppf lighting and added co2? Should I just scrap the co2 and additional lights and just let the fans maintain that 74 to 76 degrees or keep pushing the plants with the extra lights and co2 which I've found usually runs Temps into the 80s and occasionally low 90s on really hot days. What would be your advice for this situation to get the best results with the equipment I have on hand? Sorry for such a long question but I just know you're going to have some great info and reasoning to help me decide a route to go to get good results and not be exchanging my co2 tank every other day which wouldn't be cost effective. Thank you and keep up the great work. Love the chanel.
I would say feed co2 at a certain time, maybe 20 minutes a day. Since your battling heat issues you may want to co2 during night time so you can circulate air inside the tent leaving the exhaust off for the 20 minutes. I would imagine your plants would figure out when it is released, just like when they no you feed. Then when the 20 minutes is up kick on your exhaust fan and cycle it out and turn off co2 so your not sucking it out as it comes out of the tank. I hope this helps you brother! You never know till you try 🍄❤️ I don’t have a expensive tank setup but I do keep some mushroom grow bags in the tent they provide co2 enough to notice the difference in flower development compared to not using anything.
You sounds like you're very well set up now my friend I would reduce your ventilation at night cuz you don't have this much heat to increase ucode levels over the night don't worry about it when the when your lights are on what is your prr level on your canopy in my grow room it's about 16 on flower I use a propane burner at night to generate CO2 so I can't run it when the lights are on and it's working really good for me I get at least 10 to 15 percent increase in bed size and overall yield with CO2 to let me know as you agree with me is anybody has any comments I hope it works that's my opinion I hope it works for you Mike happy growing everybody
80's and low 90's are no prob if you have enough CO2 in the room, just keep them hydrated and watch your humidity for molds. California hits those Temps up north on a regular basis and they have no problems growing lol.. Don't really need as much CO2 during lights out as the roots are uptaking O2 and the plants is putting out CO2. You could reduce by about 50% during lights out and bump it back up when they switch on. Or set up your exhaust as a pusher set up with your filter outside your tent sitting next to your intake so you recapture the unused CO2 sorta like a closed loop system. Measure your exhaust temp and if it's cooled sufficiently, should be no prob pumping some of it back in. Plus frozen water jugs can be a quick fix if Temps get too high.
It only makes more sense for those hydroponists, since you'll be reducing your calcium nitrate and not scratching your head where to get that extra calcium.
I agree that whenever you flip into flower there's a different main focus for the plants energy and nutrients but you can't just forget or stop feeding other nutrients that that plant might actually want but as an organic grower my job is to make sure there is enough nutrient in my bed for whatever the plant wants or needs so I may start to wean off and get away from my vegetative feedings I still try to make sure there's a good mixture of nutrients I have seen calcium deficiencies as you go into flower or even later flower and it's not a problem u want
Exactly!
Thanks for the info!!
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@john wickk not really but when you're growing outdoors you're usually constantly combating something. But for my indoor grow I minimize who and what can go inside to try to keep a sterile environment.
@@PerfectGardensTV So I shouldn't use Cal-Mag in flowering?
The immobility of calcium is a strong argument in support of supplying it constantly at background levels throughout the plant lifecycle. Additionally, given that calcium is essential for cell wall development and overall plant health, it continues to play a significant role during all stages of plant development, including flower formation. Calcium contributes to proper cell division and development, processes which remain crucial during the flowering stage as the plant develops buds and flowers.
This guy's the real deal. God bless this man for sharing his knowledge to help others.
Ty bro, very kind words, i appreciate u
@@PerfectGardensTV hey man that talk you had with mr grow it was a big eye opener for me. I'll be watching you like a hawk.
Question: I've never done a big operation always been a hobbiest grower. You talked about avoiding nitrogen in flower. Most bloom nutrients have some nitrogen. Is this okay? I'll play around with just about any nutrients. Currently using sensi bloom a and b. I'm in strait sunshine pro mix. As winter approaches and I have more time to tend my plants going to add at least 50% perlite.
@@kevinisbell1867 I can answer your question if you don’t mind. When you say that most bloom nutrients contain nitrogen that is simply not true. Fact is that most A and B nutrient lines contain nitrogen in the part B. If you use a 3 part like Micro, grow, bloom they are separated the bloom in a 3 part nutrient line doesn’t contain nitrogen at all. Only P and K in bloom nutrient.
I agree with you 100% there my friend
@@surefiremushroomsmicrogreens my sensi bloom is 3 0 0 part a and b is 2 4 8. Should I not be using the part a or should I maybe look into getting something else. Even got some dyna bloom 3 12 6 my medi 1 is supposed to cover veg through to harvest 4 3 3. I'm Kinda lost is this stuff garbage? My buds can be a little leafy but I always kinda figured it was the strain. I've had airy buds bud also bud that thunk when you drop a little bud on the table. I am pheno hunting for quality, like start a new seed clone and hopefully its quality.
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I learn something new everyday brother 😉🙏
Applied knowledge. .. first time ive heard someone other than self state knowledge isn't power, what one does with the knowledge may present power. Amazing comment!
This makes so much sense. I conducted my first hydroponics DWC grow (White Widow autoflowers) earlier this year using General Hydroponics Flora Trio series and Cal-Mag. The plants exploded in size during veg, as expected, but then continued growing during bloom/flower -- fan leaf production was insane (I removed handfuls of them several times each week just to maintain airflow through the canopy).
Ultimately, the buds were not dense, lacked potency, and terps were weak too. I thought it was either an autoflower quirk or an overfeeding issue... based on this video, Cal-Mag added during bloom/flower was the actual culprit. God bless you mate!
It all starts with the genetics you use. That’s number 1.
I'm not so shore of that. Iv got some massive hard buds as round as a big guys arm. I'm useing calmag 😂. Iv got about two weeks to go. I better stop know but.
Probably a genetic issue I’ve always ran cal mag all the way through flower and end with nice dense buds, lots of fan leaves though so I’ll be trying without the cal mag next time
Genetics are what makes a plant yield heavy. Calmag is definitely need during flowering, just not as heavy as veg.
I bet it wasn’t
Great video. When we were kids we had to read books on this. Lol. Used to train the plants to stay low to the ground with crochet hooks. Not for yield but to hide them. 😆
THANK YOU!
my uncles grew out in the hills back in the old days 60s-90s and they taught me to tye them down.
BUT they knew it wasn't just to keep them under the tops of the corn... But it also some how produced tons more.
They knew it helped, but never knew why.
This has been around for hundreds of years, understanding it is kinda new is all.
Calcium sulphate is best for flowering, most cal mag products have nitrogen in them
Wasn't that a gypsum one?, why not use epsom salt (the Mg + S)?
Holy Cow 🐄 your going to have everyone an expert grower by the end of this!!! If they are not an expert by then.... it’s not your falt brother!!! It’s the way they comprehend, analyze ,and interpret. 😂 mush love growmie 🙏❤️ 🍄
Fan boi get a grip
Oh this makes sense. I never really thought about it like this I knew nitrogen was not needed during fruiting or how to say not as much as during veg but this is actually really insightful. Thanks my dude.
Anytime brother
So if im using coco a and b do i not use b in flowering
@@PerfectGardensTV hit me up man lol
I listened while smoking some well cured Suver Haze. I'll be back in a couple hours and watch again.
I'm so jealous, im smoking lemon sweet skunk
I had to break out the platinum kush breath, since we going top shelf
lol
Sugar black rose for me here in the UK.
Ain't them CBD varieties
During flower I use espon salt and molasses once a week until I start my flush plain water in between the swelling is nice I've been listening to this knowledge and my own is working this channel beginners need seriously dude is on point I learn something everytime 👌
Thanks for sharing
This confuses me because i've seen deficiencies in flowering plants that serious resemble calcium deficiency.
I found this video highly useful. I'm also a well seasoned grower. Thanks
We usually increase potassium but they're always the Law of Tolerance good morning everybody happy growing
Good morning bro
Che k your ppm and u should be good 👍
I just grew 7 phenos in coco coir hydroponiclly used cal mag every feeding all the way too harvest yield was 8 ounces average for a first grow, pretty sure Cal mag did me justice ⚖️
Damn, that's an eye opener! No bro science about it
Im working in a great video i think the byodynamic growers will love
I have never heard a grower say it like this.
Im really hoping it helps
I appreciate u bro
Bro we should do a video some time
@@PerfectGardensTV Let's do it! Shoot me a dm or email (in our about section)
good to see this....I practice it....and actually it can turn into nitrate...what does count is Mag in flower....and other elements of coz.....cheers!
Hey bro
i use dolo lime (40%Magnesium,60%Calcium) in veg and epsom salt (magnesium sulphate) in flower
I would use Drops of balance & BAM
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@@PerfectGardensTV i'd really like to test it, especially for the flouride and med neutralization... but i can't get it in the EU... you maybe know of something remotely similar for the EU market? talking drops of balance, i already have a super diverse microbe inoculant.
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Hey dude, found you off Mr Grow It. I subscribed to your channel because you are a fountain of knowledge.
Welcome aboard brother. Call me out if you ever find a mistake so I can correct it;)
man you're great, i wish this existed back!
Recommend this channel more plz
My brain is being feed thank you
Thank you so much,thats the stage I'm at now.
Right on. Great video!
I wonder what his views on molasses is as it contains some levels of calcium, magnesium, sulphur, manganese as well as many other nutrients?
excellent video this is a great addition to my video library I have one little thing I would like to add to this we're getting close to the end of the season and a lot of new Growers have tendency to overdo it when the rainflower don't overthrow allies your plants it's a rookie mistake that everybody does happy growing everybody Mike Northern Quebec
Great tip!
Definitely agree with you and great video. Although I use coco and need calmag until last two weeks. Do taper it down during flower.
How much cal mag do you use per litre ?
I also use COCO 70/30 mix, do you lower down the ML as you reach week 5 ?
Blew it out of the park with this info. Huge help for me
I appreciate the way you break the chemistry down, very helpful. I'm glad I was able to find you on the garden talk podcast. Your breakdown of the different forms of nitrogen was an epiphany for me, thank you. Any chance of your store stocking the Nectar line?
You’re gonna carry the Nectar line? Umm, what about ALL the Calcium? They recommend Demeter’s and Persephone’s in Bloom!! Maybe u should clarify how organic sources of calcium are good for the plant in flower! ❤️💛💚
Electrolytes potasium sodium and calcium are used by plants in the same way they are used in mamals, not just in cells to make polymers for stem and leaves with keratin.
Its used in the plants "pseudo-muscles" where by electo-differential potential signaling controls the plants ability to position its leaves into better light or away from too much light. Its also heavily involved with respiration, ei opening and closing of the plants many "mouth holes" the stomma that allow co2 and water to enter and exit
So this came up searching calcium in flowering. Because a lot of people are saying we need the calcium in flowering now, So I was searching it. so how true is video now You're thoughts
Got a crazy one for ya, creatine. Yep, creatine has been studied recently by several universities and turns out that creatine is a replacement for nitrogen in plants. In fact, it increased yield by 40% in certain ratios when applied and saves the nitrogen for later as the plant prefers creatine. Add amino acids and creatine to your potting mix, you will be amazed.
Where's the source of this info ?
I worked in several Hydro Stores / Grow Shops (in Dublin, Ireland).
If I had one € for each time I was told that a customer had a “CalMag deficiency” - I would be retired by now. (Well, maybe not retired but Id have a few hundred quid for beer money at the very least!)
One guy got aggressive because he thought Ibwas trying to mislead him when I explained that Calcium comes with Nitrogen attached. (As does magnesium in CalMag formulations)…. He got irate and demanded “pure calcium” because he was told that Nitrogen makes buds smaller!
He said he would accept cal mag but only without nitrogen… so I sold him Epsom salt (but didn’t bother explaining the sulphate part!) and he said he was gonna find “a proper hydro shop” to get some “pure calcium”…. I asked him to let me know when he finds it because Id live to get some for myself…. That was a few years ago and I’ve not heard from him since.
Love the way this channel brings together all the good hearted growers who only want to benefit each other 💚✌
Idk this kind of goes against my understanding I thought calcium helps immobilize the nutes and is a building block, thus it’s needed during the heavier load of the plans life, like when it’s creating fruit rather it be tomatoes or cannabis it’s necessary for the development of the fruit since that’s a trying time for the plant
So calcium is good in flowering. Now is what the experts are saying. your thoughts.
Nectar For The Gods is a calcium calcite based organic nutrient line, hands down it is the best nutrient line I have ever used and calcium calcite is far far superior to any salt based nutrient line.
I have had great results with their liquid bone meal 0-6-0. But this has a large amount of Calcium, from what I know, so wouldn't an 0-5-0 liquid Bat guano be superior?
I feel like he's against any bone meal, as they have plenty of Calcium, but he didn't actually say it that way. I'll ask as a comment. Maybe he'll chime in?
Love Nectar For The Gods!
bat guano if i remember strait has calcium as well but yes i would agree. also depend on the size of plants. Bat G. will be more aviable the bole will take longer unless it is a liquid
fyi i like bole meal one of my favorite amendments
Megacrop worked much better than nectar, it's overpriced snakeoil imo
I add some oyster shell flour 6 wks from harvest in my living soil grow...
Not for calcium. For it's ph buffering properties for the last month of budding.
Does this also apply when growing in coco?
Yes
potasium and phosphors, use coffee, chick peas, field beens, and clovers
I needed to know this
Thanks dude. Was adding cal mag through flower. Will stop now with 4 weeks left.
Calcium seems to be very important for fruiting tomatoes; blossom end rot can be cured on new fruits by watering with milk. So it seems that it could at least be useful for cannabis because the two plants are VERY similar.
But what do I know. It could be that because cannabis is photosensitive while tomatoes re not can make all the difference.
Thanks Mark, for the knowledge you give us.
I use milk during budding sometimes, but its not just the calcium in the milk I am after. Gives some huge nuggs, and denseness as well.
Of course Ca is "useful". Don't listen to these stupid myths. Ca is needed for pectin which is essential for building cell walls. And as we all know cannabis buds are a lot of bio mass. Some guys seem to forget that buds are literally stems, leaves and calyxes, not just trichomes lol...
He is so wrong. hahahaha
Great scientific explanation. Thank you!
Please feel free to help me to understand! I am always down to learn. I have even had calcium deficiencies show up during flower. So are you saying that you still don't want to give your plant calcium because it's in flower? I'm just confused. And like I say everything states that calcium is an essential compound for promoting healthy flowers. So idk, when it comes to this kind of stuff there are always so many contradicting statements and opinions out there that it's hard to know what to believe
Just reduce it. Find the balance between ca and p. I recommend drops of balance. Because it is about more enezyme production with bacteria
He’s dead wrong and just trying to promote his product line. Cutting calcium in bloom is completely cookoo counterproductive. Ask any big ag farmer if they’d cut their calcium in bloom for their tomatoes or peppers. They’d laugh in his face. Cutting calcium in bloom one ends up with severely underdeveloped fruit and bottom end rot.
Why you think Masterblend , Jacks and Athena has calcium in their formula all through seed to harvest.. because it’s absolutely vital.
Thank you PG's, am just going into flower at this time and would typically add Cal/Mag constantly @ EC - 0.1 to a RO base of EC - 0.05 + Grow/Flow nutes at veg stage, making the irrigation feed up to an EC of - 0.7, therefore . . .
Cal/mag makes up 1/7th of the total nutes/minerals used up till bloom grown in marginally light-blended all-mix soil in 7 gal fibre pots.
Please, What would be a good percentage % of Mag to use?
P.S. I also use mix local hard hard water(15%) into the RO so as to add - Natural Rock nutes into the soil because . . .
they're natural random rocky nutes alkaline, while my feeds are Ph - 6. Try and maintain an interesting balance . . .
:-)
I’m new to your channel let me say your in depth teaching is an eye opener very thought provoking!🤦🏽♀️🙋🏽♀️ Thank you for sharing!!!
Don't take this the wrong way. I just want to know how you feel about what you've been talking about as far as calcium goes. , do you still believe calcium is not good in all weeks of flowering like ther saying. You're thoughts😊
It's really interesting to me every time I go back and relisten to this video I hear myself say to back off on the calcium
As the plant grows it will also need calcium as it grows.
The rate of growth though significantly slows down and the need for as much calcium as you would give it during vegetative growth or peak flowering weeks up 5 - 6
After that tho yes i would back off
Some of these line way over do it in ca at the end
Great video Mark, thnx. Yeah 1st grow n I'm in flower now. Using living soil n have been top dressing & makin teas with castings n compost n the langbenite n azomite...the girls are budding like mad!
love it:)
I never took yhe calcium until the 3rd week of flowering!! Plants show they do need calcium in flowering too!!!
Can't get enough good info thanks for all your help
You bet, i appreciate you
Thanks for the info. Keep up the Great work. 👍🏽
i’ve heard from many growers that calcium helps with botrytis resistance in mid-late flower, would lowering levels of calcium increase risk of bud rot?
What helps is increasing the trace minerals so you have a larger uptake of calcium I would recommend using drops of balance and Bam a reading the $30000 field study report that shows How we are able to reduce both tries by up to 80%
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Thanks Mark
Well that's good to know, Thanks man.
Ok. Then why does my plant show obvious calcium deficiency on the leaves in the third week of flowering?
More then likely a vpd issue
Incredible video! So basically start of week 4 in flower I really should do away with constant calcium but keep magnesium going? Even if distilled?
Look at langbeinite from down to earth.
It will make alot of since
This natural rock has no calcium
Nature it fun
You're the man Mark!🙌 💥💣💯❤️🔥
Ty bro. I appreciate u
I thought mark was going full Steve Jobs with the cover of this video lol 😆
lol
Not much I can do here. Gaia Green Bloom is 2%N 8%P 4%K and 16% Ca while the all purpose only has 12% Ca which is still higher than the rest
What a great lesson! Kudos and thank you
My pleasure!
I have been waiting 2 weeks to get a link for The Down to Earth spread sheet!!!!!!! and no response yet!!!!! I was going to buy some stuff from Perfect Gardens and down to earth, now I am thanking that is a bad idea!!!!!
Thank you for the sharing the information.
Any time!
Thank you for all the information
Our pleasure!
I'm confused when you say back off calcium do you mean ad less or stop giving it because if I tell someone to back off I'm telling them to stop any movement towards me in other words stop.
Add less
Thankyou brother💚
Thanks.
I’m here to learn more
I use calcium phosphate/liquid bone meal, I make a liquid fish bone meal mixed with oyster shell meal, bone meal, calcium carbonate/chalk and a pinch of rock phosphate all dissolved and stabilize with L.A.B in one huge dissolver/tank. which chelate's everything I need up into my plants way better than anything I've ever used in flower ( desolve everything with two shovels of leaf mold a pinch of suger and fill half way with water in a barrel or bucket this is an anaerobic brew. then add L.A.B once everything starts dissolving and bubbling/ microbial activity 4 months later maybe longer if it's cold, the longer the better, this will create the best bio-available form of nutrients for our type of plants I was once told😁 , then add apple cider vinegar with Mother culture = microbes probiotics/prebiotics, then add L.A.B to stabilize acidity around 5.0-6.0, you can also add Ful-power fulvic acid to speed up the digestion process, keep warm put on heating mat
"75 - 85F" under it and make sure all ingredients are finely finely ground up to create more surface area for microbial enzymatic acidic contact/ digestion/reaction, all these steps are necessary so you don't end up with a protein collagen cartilage noodles in the bottom of your Barrel left over bone residue ) you can use this just like Herculean Harvest liquid bone meal. Use protein guar gum for cosmetic and thickin agent it's a stable thickener agent between 1.0-10.0 P.H, making everything thick like a milkshake when shaken up. This stuff really goes hand and hand when you push this calcium concoction with liquid Kelp that has fulvic acid combined with it = jet fuel 1/6 teaspoon ratio with liquid calcium, the more liquid calcium you push the more liquid "kelp mix/bloom khaos " you can push for Rapid cell formation ( 2-3 inch growth everyday and Rock hard high brix, super fruity with crazy treps) , make sure to push a protein-based nitrogen( no sodium based) or L-amino acid nitrogen base protein molecules, NO SODIUM not unless you want Big CLots & Cl-Glunk🤮 of calcium sodium all throughout your medium in gum form 😁...
P.s when mixing in bucket your feed it's going to turn out acidic, so all you do is mix a strong stable alkaline concoction at 7.0-8.0 of calcium carbonate/chalk with sterilized distilled water making a milkshake concoction - ( this is just extra calcium in your grow 🤷♂️) - as a ph up method, only takes 1/4 teaspoon to raise P.H, no more sodium based P.H nothing or food🤮, that's it easy peasy.....
I'm curious why you add Vinegar if you already have incredible amounts of microbes in the LABS? Milk/diary has incredibly high microbe levels, not only the types of microbes, but the amount... Not including enzymes and stuff. Also... From what know, Vinegar can kill certain microbes too, it's extremely acidic, so I'm not sure how good it is.... I made Water Soluable Calcuium with some ACV, but never added it to any of my fermentations. I don't believe I've seen it used in KNF/etc ferments, but maybe I'm wrong.
I agree with you though, I ferment all of my own fertilizers, and don't worry too much about what I'm feeding ,because the plant takes care of it... Of course, i try to not feed nitrogen rich in flowering/fruiting stages of my plants but you would think the microbes in the soil would take care of that.
You know.... I probably should add some more of my kefir mix into my fish batch.... It's been a year, should add more.
@@AlvinKazu I add the ACV because sometimes when I stir it all the calcium carbonate chalk will Spike the pH and it takes so long for it to come down I just assist.
@@AlvinKazu you should have two batches one for vegetative and one for flowering you'll see way better results ( especially once you start tapering your ferments to your plants growth ) .
@@ronevergrow8319 I have multiple buckets of ferments and only use certain ones during each period.
@@ronevergrow8319Hmm interesting. That would work, but I wonder if there would be other things that also would work as well.
I don't PH my ferments or soil, I don't have any issues.
What stage should calcium be added then and in what form is best?
Calcium isn't most drive men met products even if they don't list it.
There's a variety of different calciums you could use most important is your biology and your trace minerals
I would recommend using drops balance and BAM to help break down and uptake if Ca
Here are the links check out the reviews they'll make a world of difference
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I use Nectar for the Gods which is calcium based. Herculean harvest, which is bonemeal, is supposed to be the most important nutrient during bloom, so this confuses me.
Off topic but it’s frustrating that people see bugs as a problem instead of them pointing at a problem. We have to pick our battles wisely. I gave an outdoor plant a bunch of nutrients and the results where aphids to the max. While most people might freak out about spreading I didn’t and it shows healthy plants get left alone. Unfortunately when humans are dying we make a bunch of noise.
Aphids show up when there's excess nitrogen.
Great video always informative thanks man ✌🏻
You bet
Came back for more
Thanks Boss
Legit gave me an ahah! moment. Thank you sir. I will be following and in the comments!
Excellent!
I think you meant to say Langbenite has Potassium, not phosphorus
Yeahh!! This croptober curing has delivered some new early samples. it seems the weight is down but the quality is up.
Buds are ossified nuggets of resin rather than softer leafier stickier blooms from last year's cal/mag.
This year was mostly only mag for bloom time, a little cal mag every 3 feeds but just trace.
I follow your advice, Could such a measure have those results?? Water is Rev osmosis because the EC at source is .75
Anyway, had to mention it because the weed is different and it's 10/10
Cheers.
Next year add langbeinite in the 3rd week. only thing it sound like you were missing
Great job you know your stuff.
Sick video thanks brother.
Any time! ty bro
Odd, I’ve always been taught to load up on cal growing into flower.. and the ones teaching pull weight of beautiful organic
Thank you. First time I clicked an add. I know calcium isn't as necessary in blooming, I guess that's why i clicked lol
What about lines like Nectar For The Gods? It's a calcium based line.
This goes against everything in agriculture. Ca is the most important nutrient for flowering. Needs to be saturated beforehand.
I agree im just say to back off near tge end
thanks
I'm confused because all of your stuff is science-based, What you say. but now things are changing. Your thoughts
Let me know if my above comment resonates with you
Now watchand consulting a few 100 grows with these recommendations with this mindset we have documented mind-blowing yields and oil concentrations
So I have a 2 pepper plants out of 60 that has blossom end rot. Only the one varietie sugar Rush striped grown in 2 different ways. 1 in a self watering bucket using hydro nutrients and 1 in a raised bed grown organic. Different yards completely. Hydro vs organic but only the one varietie. Could it be the varietie? I added lime and calmag but still getting blossom end rot. Any suggestions? Honestly the organic one might be doing better. Maybe because the roots are in the earth. Should I not be using mega crop in the buckets? The rest are doing great except 1 think got a disease but still not sure. Possibly aphids as I did spray for them. I tossed that 1 as the pods looked horrible.
Minerals are any naturally occurring solid that are inorganic. This means crystaline structures of inorganic atoms.
Organic atoms are carbon oxygen nitrogen and hydrogen.
Inorganic is everything else.
How fast is Epsom salt available to the plant, especially if your are making a tea. This is the million dollar question for beginner organic organic growers. I have leaves screaming magnesium please and I am using Epsom. Not sure if its even available at all really. If your in flower that means there may or may not be time for it to break down.
it is water suable so fast
I'm not saying that Calcium is something that should be pounded during flower or anything like that. However, everything I have found online about calcium says that calcium is not only needed during flower but it is ESSENTIAL! And these are basic searches on Google. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying everything online is right or even true. I'm just telling you what I have found well searching. It says that although it is not needed in as heavy amounts as veg. It is still 100% NEEDED to produce nice healthy flowers......
I agree, i just recommend to back off the calmag past week 4
@@PerfectGardensTV "I agree, i just recommend to back off the calmag past week 4"
Doesn't make sense still. Buds are packing the most weight during the second bloom phase. Ca is needed for pectin which is essential for building cell walls. And I'm sure you're aware that buds are literally stems, leaves and calyxes, in short it's a lot of biomass. It's not just trichomes lol. MJ buds are much more dense and heavier than your average plant flowers (ornamental plants).
In the beginning of flowering the plants grow a lot - some strains even near to double it's size. So during the first 2-3 weeks of the plants needs these (cal & mag)?
Sorry it took so late reply
Correct the plant significantly stops growing growing around week 6 and 7 into flowering so I recommend to just slightly backup the calcium
I would try Drops of Balance & BAM.
The results will blow your mind
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Bro going into 4 week of flower going to cut of calmeg this feeding using dry nuits when should I start using molasses or can you only use it with organic nuits
To my knowledge molasses is more for the soil microbes and fungi. If there's none there i wouldn't.
Meh i think long flowering strains need quite a bit of calcium in flower...
so glad to have found your channel today, i can tell you have real information and genuine passion to teach what you’ve learnt yourself
Bill's nye love the name haha
Second week of flowering and my stems are turning purple but just on top of the stem
Flower stage Potassium
Ok....I have an off subject question that I dont know where to ask but I'm willing to bet you can provide a good answer. Im running a 4x4 tent with a 600 watt HLG 600 rspec LED light. I also have about 200 watts worth of additional LED lights that are mostly for tuning my spectrum. They are red, blue, deep red and infrared. I use the blues in veg to keep the nodes short and then use the reds, far red, and infrared during flowering to get the Emerson enhancement effect and use a channel of just the deep red and infrared for 15 minutes at the morning and end of night to simulate a sunrise and sunset effect. I have an 8 inch ac infinity exhaust fan hooked up to an 8 inch carbon filter for exhaust with a 6 inch ac infinity for the intake. Both fans run off the ac infinity controller that can have different set points for temperature and humidity. Now the obvious solution would just be set the temps and humidity as desired and let the controller turn the fans off and on as needed. The problem and my question is what if I want to and I believe need to use added co2 to take full advantage of my high ammount of light being thrown at the plants. I have a tank, regulator, and a titan controls atlas 9 controller with fuzzy logic to keep the c02 at an optimum level. My issue is that the ac infinity fan controller and the titan 9 co2 controller are running independent so there's no way to stop the co2 from being sucked right out of the tent if the fans are on. I know this is simply something I must deal with to some extent when running co2 in a vented environment. My question is to what extent? With the fans running full time I can maintain about 75 to 77 degrees. When they shut down the aprox 800 watts of LED's heat things up pretty quickly. I know with proper co2 levels a higher temperature is acceptable to maintain faster growth but how high is too high? I get varied answers depending on if they are recommending to use a vpd chart or just go with the traditional lower is better. I want to let the Temps get just about as high as possible to keep the fans off and keep from sucking out my co2 so fast. I have tried different combinations of settings with adjusting the flow rate on the co2 and the temperature setting on the fan and it makes a BIG difference on how long my tank lasts. When I try to achieve lower temperatures the fans are on more and therefore more co2 is sucked right out of the tent causing the controller to dump more co2 back in to maintain its set point. My bottles of co2 have lasted anywhere from a couple days to a couple weeks. Long story short.....whats the highest Temps you would recommend with high ppf lighting and added co2? Should I just scrap the co2 and additional lights and just let the fans maintain that 74 to 76 degrees or keep pushing the plants with the extra lights and co2 which I've found usually runs Temps into the 80s and occasionally low 90s on really hot days. What would be your advice for this situation to get the best results with the equipment I have on hand? Sorry for such a long question but I just know you're going to have some great info and reasoning to help me decide a route to go to get good results and not be exchanging my co2 tank every other day which wouldn't be cost effective. Thank you and keep up the great work. Love the chanel.
I would say feed co2 at a certain time, maybe 20 minutes a day. Since your battling heat issues you may want to co2 during night time so you can circulate air inside the tent leaving the exhaust off for the 20 minutes. I would imagine your plants would figure out when it is released, just like when they no you feed. Then when the 20 minutes is up kick on your exhaust fan and cycle it out and turn off co2 so your not sucking it out as it comes out of the tank. I hope this helps you brother! You never know till you try 🍄❤️
I don’t have a expensive tank setup but I do keep some mushroom grow bags in the tent they provide co2 enough to notice the difference in flower development compared to not using anything.
You sounds like you're very well set up now my friend I would reduce your ventilation at night cuz you don't have this much heat to increase ucode levels over the night don't worry about it when the when your lights are on what is your prr level on your canopy in my grow room it's about 16 on flower I use a propane burner at night to generate CO2 so I can't run it when the lights are on and it's working really good for me I get at least 10 to 15 percent increase in bed size and overall yield with CO2 to let me know as you agree with me is anybody has any comments I hope it works that's my opinion I hope it works for you Mike happy growing everybody
Highest temps with co2 would be 32 to 35 max bro hope this helped 👍
80's and low 90's are no prob if you have enough CO2 in the room, just keep them hydrated and watch your humidity for molds. California hits those Temps up north on a regular basis and they have no problems growing lol.. Don't really need as much CO2 during lights out as the roots are uptaking O2 and the plants is putting out CO2. You could reduce by about 50% during lights out and bump it back up when they switch on. Or set up your exhaust as a pusher set up with your filter outside your tent sitting next to your intake so you recapture the unused CO2 sorta like a closed loop system. Measure your exhaust temp and if it's cooled sufficiently, should be no prob pumping some of it back in. Plus frozen water jugs can be a quick fix if Temps get too high.
agreed
Thanks for sharing
How do you feel about gypsum for calcium?
It only makes more sense for those hydroponists, since you'll be reducing your calcium nitrate and not scratching your head where to get that extra calcium.
What is a good organic source of potassium
Langbeinite
@@PerfectGardensTV thank you