Bought a 2020 Palisade Limited AWD instead for 2 reasons. Interior and MSRP. My wife wanted the Kia Telluride, but I refused to pay what I call a 'popularity per diem!' Hats off to Kia finally having a solid contender in the segment, but you have to be out of your minds to pay 57k - 65k for a vehicle that maxed out between 47k - 48k when it released. This market adjustment mess is a bunch of crap! Ripping hard working people off is what they're doing. Such a greedy place we live in.
K., I test drove a Telluride, FWD version when I was Trading my 2019 Acura MDX Advance. I was not impressed , it slipped on a slightly wet surface (August 2021), when stepping on the gas, too mush glare form the aluminum dash. For $50K vs, $62K (MDX), yes OK. But No way at $65K with the Premium to get one. I ended up with a new 2022 MDX Advance (with my Lease Equity of $3600 and a $1K Loyalty form Acura which was to entice the purchase (well actually Lese). I Truly Enjoy My MDX with it's Renowned SH-AWD. Be sure to check out Snow reviews of the HTRAC system (it shut down when stuck in snow!!).
I initially refused to consider the Telluride because of Kia's history, however after doing my research I was happily surprised. My new 2022 Nightfall SXP Wolf Gray with Dune Brown interior Telluride will be here in 2 weeks!
Last week we traded in a 2018 Pacifica with the S package that we bought brand new for a 2020 Telluride S with AWD. I am blown away by the Telluride! My wife is not a car person but she loves the Telluride! It's just an amazing vehicle!
This car looks sweet. Those distinctive headlights really stand out on the road. I want to test drive one but none of the dealers around me have one available for a test drive, insane...
Best for looks? Very possible! Best for features? Very possible! Best for value? Maybe at MSRP! certainly not with a 5k+ dealer markup! Best for reliability? Most likely not! Perhaps they’re holding their own in terms of short term reliability, but for long term durability, we won’t know for another 5-10 years. Hard to imagine their engine and transmission will outlast Toyotas and Hondas!
@@maga6319 I have seen highlanders dating back to 2010 on the road still, the telluride model is only 3 years old, I don’t even own a Toyota, I drive a Nissan as do my parents, they have been around longer it’s just a fact
I test drove a Telluride, I thought it was ok, a little sluggish, and I opted not to go forward. In addition, a 6K markup, makes a Kia completely useless, its a value brand....the markup kills the value.
I came to the same conclusion. HP and torque are okay at sea level but this drags at elevation. If you live at over 5k ft in elevation(or regularly drive in these areas) it may be worth considering a vehicle with turbo(or just a more powerful engine) vs this engine from kia.
After owning 2 highlander hybrids,one with 358,000 miles on it.I have to say the toyota is long-term winner test.We will see what the long-term reliability will be on the telly. Go highlander.
It’s pretty reliable, I own a Tacoma 2007 pre-runner with 500k miles with no issues and I love Toyota cars. I purchased the 2021 telluride because it was the best option for me at the time and for my family of 5. As an engineer I did a lot of research into the engine and was very confident in its ability to last. If the new Toyota Sequoia Capstone came out at the same time I would have gone for that one instead.
@@maga6319 That's what I'm saying that's why I bought one this year a 2022 trd off road premium that's the hole Point I'm trying to make I don't want any of that twin Turbo hybrid BS
The warranty for this suv is 100,000 miles or 10 year which is the same as most Toyota suv. That is why they were award high reliability. Plus this engine was used in the 2016 Kia Forte so I would imagine it is has some truth.
Nice suv , the front headlights scream mid 2000’s Cadillac Escalade , The Tail lights look like they came from a 1968 Pontiac bonneville but upside down.
Highlader Hybrid is the fast selling car. They dont exist in car lot these days.- Telluride is def more rooming in the 3rd row. Reliability is questionable.
@@bn9068 I think a lot of people still are ok with the exterior design of the Telluride vs the Palisade but I respect everyone's preference on design. What's really a bummer is little things like, the full digital cluster not being available on the Telluride in any trim at all whereas the Palisade offers the full digital cluster. Like little features like that that KIA lacks but Hyundai doesn't. Pretty sure when both the Palisade and the Telluride get redesigned I am sure the Telluride will get a panoramic digital cluster + infotainment system combined together like the redesigned Sportage. But I honestly think KIA and Hyundai should've just made the Telluride and the Palisade into the Large SUV segment and not the mid size SUV segment. Already have the Sorento from KIA and Santa Fe from Hyundai in that segment. So that's some missed opportunities there in my personal opinion.
@@shannonha2331 I totally agree with everything you just said. The Santa Fe and Sorento are quite big enough, if not, then just increase the length some more to Accommodate the 3rd row, and as you said, make the Telluride and Palisade into the large suv section, that would create much more opportunities for more things.
If she is wrong then your half right no? Since your married and supposed to be acting as one so im guessing you like Kia and she doesn’t as much as you… I dont think the telluride is a must buy also and i know im not wrong about the . Suv s and trucks average 50k on purchase id rather own American like Jeep or Chevorlet even Ford has options
Palisade IMO is better. It’s got power 3rd row, all digital cluster, painted wheel wells, rear bumper. Can’t stand that black plastic crap especially on the top trim.
The Dodge Durango looks better and is better built. The whole under carriage of the Kia is stamped steel. You don't get more for your money, you just don't see what you're not getting. These trucks won't last 10yrs in the northeast
Agree with everything said here. Absolutely great vehicle. Wife begrudgingly came to this conclusion after doing the research. Minor points against it. The badge should be blacked out on nightfall edition. Also I would find a dealership willing to sell MSRP and just wait. We waited 6 months.
We bought 2 kia telluride ex and sx Base EX model with AWD took about 5 1/2 months Still waiting on my SX it's been over 6 months.... I am still patiently waiting :( KIA TELLURIDE SX White with Dune brown Nappa leather Add ons: + Prestige Package + Nightfall Edition + Cross Bars + Towing Package + Illuminated Scuff Plates + Interior Light Kit, Multicolored + Side step bars
looks fantastic. has all the ups and extras. I'd love to buy it. But Kia's history is poor. Poor engines. Poor transmissions. Poor acknowledgement by the company when things really go wrong...and a refusal to do anything about it. He says they're flying off lots "and that's all you need to know". And "they haven't changed anything since it was introduced in 2020". Most vehicles don't see changes for 4 or 5 years. Also, they haven't existed long enough to be proven reliable. 2 years on the road? That's when stuff starts happening. Think about how many Toyotas are out there with 100K, 150K, 200+K? A LOT! How many Kias with 100K out there? Exactly. As for "flying off the dealer lots", I'll just quote George Carlin: “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” This isn't a car review. This is a car bl**j*b.
I personally would never own another Korean car again. All I’ve heard about them is they’re so much improved and the most reliable cars on the market but that didn’t really line up with the ones I owned and the people I knew who owned them. They didn’t hold up at all. They engine, transmission, electrical, issues, etc. at way low miles.
Toyota’s have the most reliable hybrid system than any other manufacture the reason for that is because they invested a lot of R&D into it back in the 2000. Now that 2020 is here they have a leg up on everybody. How do I know because I almost all the stress test for the engines.
Definitely see why this is selling so well. It's a good looker and a great value. If one can get over the stigma of driving a minivan, the Toyota Sienna AWD hybrid is an amazing package! 36 mpg, much more overall room than any SUV since the seats can stow away under the floor, more kid friendly since the power sliding doors can be operated remotely revealing a much larger door opening. It's priced very comparably to the Telluride. I'm personally not a Toyota guy but the Sienna is a great package!
Our 2022 telluride was ordered on June 11th. Wolf gray nightfall sx, hopefully it isn't going to take 8 months like the dealer said it was going to take. No markup from our dealership.
Doesn’t mention the transmission issues people are having at 5k miles, the AWD drive shaft issues, the terrible road noise, and the terrible gas mileage. You’re better off with a Highlander hybrid given the gas prices these days, even if the Toyota is “boring”. It’ll last longer as well.
I own a 2021 telluride and ran some test before buying. I found out the avg sound limit was about 53 dm at 70 mph which is very impressive compared to other suv avg 70 db. The air suspension is a huge improvement in ride comfort. The telluride does get great mpg if you know how to optimize the engine. I engineer cars for a living and was able to modify the engine to get 30mpg Cruising at 70 mph and in the 25 city. I have alway love Toyota but after driving this one i was impressed. Plus I got it the same color in the SX FWD.
What kind of trans issues? A few of my neighbors and I have Telluride's and no one complained about any of the issues you listed. I have 30k on it and so far we've had chips in the windshield as our only complaint. As a mechanic for Ford I rate this car well. If you can fix Fords you can fix anything lol. I can see myself getting 200k out of it. Just like I did with my last car which was an 04 Honda Pilot. BTW Toyota's are great, long lasting vehicles. I wish they would make them so tall people like my family and I can fit in them.
@@moloono1 Thanks! I'll put that on the service desk if we run into that problem. I looked it up it applies to build dates: February 6, 2019 through December 9, 2019 and we have 7/20 build. But I'll mention it if we run into this issue. Thanks👍
I don't see any Toyota vehicles catching fire 🔥 on their own,look at the huge recall Hyundai and Kia are going through right now because of their engines going up in flames , and before you said I'm a Toyota Fanboy,I have family and friends that have been affected by this recall.
Really kia tht great I do not own but friends have there motor issues have discouraged alot of people from buy there stuff including Hyundai V6 in certain stuff has had issues just saying
Your wife may be saying what she’s saying because with this vehicle (and any Kia) with the 3.8 engine it hesitates when accelerating in a 90 degree or greater turn.
Atlas is better Kia it’s a toy compared to Vw ,,, inside space wise and power wise Vw losse on mpg, that becouse Kia runs on Atkinson engine get your numbers ppl
Got a chance to test drive both. I like the Telluride morr than the Palisade. The Palisade for all it’s bling and tech felt bloated and numb. I’m sure it would make for good long haul car but the driving was uninspiring.
Sorry but your wife is rigth Kia and Hyundai have a bad bad se recall those cars are cooking ppl inside ,, hence catching fire without warning .. actually there is a chance to put a stop on that production till the take it seriously and fix the problem
We have 2022 Kia Telluride!!! I really wanted to buy Wolf grey night fall edition but a problem was mark up!! So we bought white color! We really love this car! perfect!
Can you please provide actual data to back up your opinion. All data and reports from the last two decades show Toyota and Lexus dominate reliability. Kia and Hyundai have horrible reliability ratings, with current recalls advising owners to not park near structures due to engine fires.
When are you going to do a review of the refreshed '23 model? Especially the new X-Pro trim level? And is the Telluride still the best non-luxury 3-row SUV hands down?? Inquiring minds like mine want to know your opinion.
Toyota and Honda have proven reliability...blah blah blah...Yes, they have proven their reliability. Now, they don't need to be reliable anymore, because people already think that they are. Now, they are cheaping out, coasting, and resting on their previously established reputation. They are like Apollo Creed in Rocky 1, and KIA is like Rocky. Kia is hungry and has something to prove...so that's who I'm betting on. “Give a man a reputation as an early riser and he can sleep 'til noon.”
Telluride & EV9 are separate right now... I guess what I meant is I hadn't heard of any Telluride hybrid Just that the EV9 will effectively be an all electric "Telluride" @@maga6319
Wont lie, it looks great. But i was sitting in traffic next to one and the engine sounded like crap as it idled. And wasnt even old looking. Im no mechanic, but after listening to that I have some reservations with longevity.
I bought a Palisade Limited last year and have absolutely no regrets. Super comfortable ride with tons of options. I stopped by the dealership for a 100% covered oil change and talked with my salesman while I waited. He said every vehicle that comes off the delivery trucks is spoken for when it arrives. That cannot keep any Hyundai on the lot. (All I saw on the lot were used Jeeps, Dodges, Fords, and Chevys that people evidently traded in.) I don’t think you showed anything on the Kia that the Hyundai doesn’t have, and the Hyundai interior is way nicer. For example, no floating infotainment screen that looks like it was stuck on the dash as an afterthought.
Well you don't have folding mirrors and your towing package looks aftermarket on the palisades...next year when the palisades gets a nightfall package then that might help to get rid of that hearst look.
I have a 21 sx fully loaded knightfall wolf gray just like in the vid.. paid 60 grand.. already paid it off and its still worth how much i paid with 25 tho miles.. great car
Durango RT , Jeep Wagoneer , new and bigger Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit . All compare in some ways but as far as bang for your buck yes this is a great value . The manual window shades the ambient lights the leather quality are a huge bargain .
I love the Kia Telluride, I've driven it, it is very nice! Maybe when I grow-up I can be a Telluride driver, right now I love my 2022 Kia Seltos SX, AWD also don't forget the remote start, very important in the winter months.😁
What you're NOT telling people is how bad the rear suspension booms and reverberates throughout the cabin over every bump and expansion joint you hit! You're also not telling people how loud the road noise in the cabin is compared to others in the segment. Just test drive the new Pathfinder, Grand Cherokee, Pilot, MDX and then this Kia thing. the difference is more than obvious. Compare how loud you have to speak for your passengers to hear you. The Koreans are at least 10 years behind the US and Japan in suspension sophistication and sound deadening.
@@TimboDawg drive it back to back, you’ll see. My wife, who doesn’t notice stuff like that even noticed it. Unless the brand new Telluride we test drove last week with the sticker on it was wrecked 😛. The JGC-L we picked up last night is leagues ahead in refinement.
Kia has been killing it since the release of the Stinger. Folks just haven’t been paying attention or something. Idk. But Dave, would you also look at a RST Tahoe or a Yukon SLT? They are also very family friendly with a usable 3rd row plus better towing. My wife and I are debating this.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 thank you. Purchased the Elite in 2020. I really like the interior and does not look outdated to me. Have no issues with the "outdated" technology either. It works well, has all I need and more. My sister on the other hand could use some luck. She purchased the Telluride SX trim, which looks really sharp, her windshield cracked at 3,000 miles and the transmission slips at times while on the freeway and cannot accelerate. They have not been able to remedy the problem yet.
@@lani9779 That's odd. My Cousin has one and he don't have any issues with his so far. He actually traded his Toyota Highlander for the Telluride. I'm glad you don't think the interior of your Pilot is not outdated. I'm saying that because the infotainment is just too small and looks old..Especially for the Elite trim. Even most Auto Journalists says the same thing. But looks are objective to some.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 Yes, looks can be objective. Some reviews praise the pilots interior and others not as much. The layout and colors used for the touchscreen buttons is my favorite part and the 8 inch screen and does not seem small to me. I also like the touchscreen flushed with no actual hard buttons, looks cleaner in my opinion. I was looking at purchasing a Toyota highlander as well, but there were some small things I did not like about it, but I would of been happy with it as well. What kind of car do you drive?
I own a 2021 Telluride SX nightfall edition that I bought new in December of 2020. We have taken it on a family road trip, and have put 21,000 worry free miles on the vehicle. While many people look at Toyota for longevity, due to its history, let’s look at the hybrid system and how many of those systems have actually faired in the past decade. If you are going to only look at the past (1980’s-2010) then yes, the Toyota and Honda history have been reliable (even if that wasn’t the case in the 1970’s). What some of you may not be noticing is that even with recalls, Kia and parent company Hyundai have been making better more reliable cars than either Honda and Toyota over the past decade. With vehicles like the 4-Runner and Land Cruiser still sitting at the top of the longevity because they don’t want to mess with a good thing. Even though the Land Cruiser is now dead, I can’t imagine they wouldn’t bring it back. Granted for a mainstream, non-luxury (still classified as a luxury SUV by some) three row, off-road SUV you would only be paying upwards of $80,000 for a new one two years ago (if you were getting a base model). In my opinion, the Hyundai and Kia brands got their start like Toyota and Honda did by making small economy cars that weren’t meant to last long, but got people into cars (such as teenagers and young adults). They weren’t great 30 years ago, and it wasn’t until probably 2005 or 2006 when they really put a lot of work into reliability and quality. According to enthusiasts, the Telluride is the quietest on the road and on the highway of any mainstream SUV. It isn’t quite as sporty as the CX-9. It has less room and is smaller than the GM trio. It can’t go as far off-road as the Jeep Grand Cherokee L. It doesn’t get the fuel economy of the Highlander or Pilot. However, it ranks second in a lot of those categories versus the competition; making it the best all-a-rounder. For those people who have written off both Kia and Hyundai because of the reliability issues of the past, please look at the history of your vehicles. It isn’t pretty for anyone. I recommend my Telluride to everyone! Thank Everyman Driver. Sorry to vent on your page.
Facts was just at a dealership looking at an Ev6 wind only tellurides I saw were 20/21 with that damn dealer “market adjustment “ on them. Can’t even imagine what a 22 would be even just an lx trim probably over 50k
The Sorrento rivals the telluride and they have a phev version. We just purchased the hybrid about 3 weeks ago .... Absolutely insanely good car. 3 row seating with captains chairs along with 33 mpg city has made my wife really happy.
This is a VAN underneath and super springy and noisy. Crazy people over paying for a van.
Bought a 2020 Palisade Limited AWD instead for 2 reasons. Interior and MSRP. My wife wanted the Kia Telluride, but I refused to pay what I call a 'popularity per diem!' Hats off to Kia finally having a solid contender in the segment, but you have to be out of your minds to pay 57k - 65k for a vehicle that maxed out between 47k - 48k when it released. This market adjustment mess is a bunch of crap! Ripping hard working people off is what they're doing. Such a greedy place we live in.
No mark up paid. Bought online w a $1000 deposit only at kia..picked up in ATL.
The Telluride is so damn good that dealers are overcharging people to buy it. That’s why I’m waiting for one.
@@jeffg1639 you’re lucky because we tried to get one, and they quoted us 60k for an SX with the Nightfall package. Ridiculous.
K., I test drove a Telluride, FWD version when I was Trading my 2019 Acura MDX Advance. I was not impressed , it slipped on a slightly wet surface (August 2021), when stepping on the gas, too mush glare form the aluminum dash. For $50K vs, $62K (MDX), yes OK. But No way at $65K with the Premium to get one. I ended up with a new 2022 MDX Advance (with my Lease Equity of $3600 and a $1K Loyalty form Acura which was to entice the purchase (well actually Lese). I Truly Enjoy My MDX with it's Renowned SH-AWD. Be sure to check out Snow reviews of the HTRAC system (it shut down when stuck in snow!!).
@@Chiroman527 Wow. I had no idea. We don't get much snow around here, so maybe I'll never have to put AWD to the test. Good to know. Thanks.
I initially refused to consider the Telluride because of Kia's history, however after doing my research I was happily surprised.
My new 2022 Nightfall SXP Wolf Gray with Dune Brown interior Telluride will be here in 2 weeks!
What was Kia's history?
@@maga6319 how about the 2022 Kia Sorento, what are your thoughts?
@@maga6319 i'm thinking of buying this 2022 Model diesel engine.
@@maga6319 in the Philippines, right now i'm here in the US but i'm retiring soon in PH bec of the high cost of living here in the US.
Dune brown is amazing. I have it in my 21 SX-P/T Dark Moss Telly
Last week we traded in a 2018 Pacifica with the S package that we bought brand new for a 2020 Telluride S with AWD. I am blown away by the Telluride! My wife is not a car person but she loves the Telluride! It's just an amazing vehicle!
Popular doesn't equal RELIABILITY and DEPENDABILITY daily
This car looks sweet. Those distinctive headlights really stand out on the road. I want to test drive one but none of the dealers around me have one available for a test drive, insane...
Best for looks? Very possible!
Best for features? Very possible!
Best for value? Maybe at MSRP! certainly not with a 5k+ dealer markup!
Best for reliability? Most likely not! Perhaps they’re holding their own in terms of short term reliability, but for long term durability, we won’t know for another 5-10 years. Hard to imagine their engine and transmission will outlast Toyotas and Hondas!
Buy a Kia Sorento then wait 5 years if still reliable.
@@maga6319 the telluride model is only 2 years old, there’s no possible way you can compare it to a 10 year old highlander that is still on the road
@@maga6319 I have seen highlanders dating back to 2010 on the road still, the telluride model is only 3 years old, I don’t even own a Toyota, I drive a Nissan as do my parents, they have been around longer it’s just a fact
@@maga6319 look at the 2020 highlanders compared to the 2020 telluride, that should give you your answer
I test drove a Telluride, I thought it was ok, a little sluggish, and I opted not to go forward. In addition, a 6K markup, makes a Kia completely useless, its a value brand....the markup kills the value.
I came to the same conclusion. HP and torque are okay at sea level but this drags at elevation. If you live at over 5k ft in elevation(or regularly drive in these areas) it may be worth considering a vehicle with turbo(or just a more powerful engine) vs this engine from kia.
PALISADE !!!!!!
Honda Pilot!
After owning 2 highlander hybrids,one with 358,000 miles on it.I have to say the toyota is long-term winner test.We will see what the long-term reliability will be on the telly. Go highlander.
It’s pretty reliable, I own a Tacoma 2007 pre-runner with 500k miles with no issues and I love Toyota cars. I purchased the 2021 telluride because it was the best option for me at the time and for my family of 5. As an engineer I did a lot of research into the engine and was very confident in its ability to last. If the new Toyota Sequoia Capstone came out at the same time I would have gone for that one instead.
Toyota will outlast any Korean cars that's for sure.
4runner all the way Toyota is the best car company as far as reliability dependability and capability goes
@@maga6319 witch one?
@@maga6319 That's what I'm saying that's why I bought one this year a 2022 trd off road premium that's the hole Point I'm trying to make I don't want any of that twin Turbo hybrid BS
I just giggle remembering my sister and family lived w an ‘84 toyota carolla 4 speed manual shift, w 2 kids…and had it for 17 years.🤣🤣
That's why they all end up in a junkyard before 100.000 miles .Kia can you make bicycles?
The warranty for this suv is 100,000 miles or 10 year which is the same as most Toyota suv. That is why they were award high reliability. Plus this engine was used in the 2016 Kia Forte so I would imagine it is has some truth.
Nice suv , the front headlights scream mid 2000’s Cadillac Escalade , The Tail lights look like they came from a 1968 Pontiac bonneville but upside down.
Highlader Hybrid is the fast selling car. They dont exist in car lot these days.- Telluride is def more rooming in the 3rd row. Reliability is questionable.
1:33 "My wife is way smarter than I am by the way" good save my man... good save! LOLOLOL
I bought a Hyundai palisade last year because I preferred the look and it is one of the smoothest, nice driving vehicles that I’ve ever owned.
Agreed. Iike the Kia for it's rugged Range Rover vibe, but ultimate the Palisade is just more edgy in the way I like. And the interior is nicer.
@@outermarker5801 yes, the interior is wayy nicer than the Telly, but not even the interior, but the exterior too
@@bn9068 I think a lot of people still are ok with the exterior design of the Telluride vs the Palisade but I respect everyone's preference on design. What's really a bummer is little things like, the full digital cluster not being available on the Telluride in any trim at all whereas the Palisade offers the full digital cluster. Like little features like that that KIA lacks but Hyundai doesn't. Pretty sure when both the Palisade and the Telluride get redesigned I am sure the Telluride will get a panoramic digital cluster + infotainment system combined together like the redesigned Sportage. But I honestly think KIA and Hyundai should've just made the Telluride and the Palisade into the Large SUV segment and not the mid size SUV segment. Already have the Sorento from KIA and Santa Fe from Hyundai in that segment. So that's some missed opportunities there in my personal opinion.
@@shannonha2331 I totally agree with everything you just said. The Santa Fe and Sorento are quite big enough, if not, then just increase the length some more to Accommodate the 3rd row, and as you said, make the Telluride and Palisade into the large suv section, that would create much more opportunities for more things.
Sophisticated people go for the Palisade. Soccer Moms go for the Telluride
If she is wrong then your half right no? Since your married and supposed to be acting as one so im guessing you like Kia and she doesn’t as much as you… I dont think the telluride is a must buy also and i know im not wrong about the . Suv s and trucks average 50k on purchase id rather own American like Jeep or Chevorlet even Ford has options
Make sure you don’t get Korean kumo tires they suck
Palisade IMO is better. It’s got power 3rd row, all digital cluster, painted wheel wells, rear bumper. Can’t stand that black plastic crap especially on the top trim.
Give me a Toyota van any day
The Dodge Durango looks better and is better built. The whole under carriage of the Kia is stamped steel. You don't get more for your money, you just don't see what you're not getting. These trucks won't last 10yrs in the northeast
I wouldn't trust it long term. Possibly would lease
Ok
Agree with everything said here. Absolutely great vehicle. Wife begrudgingly came to this conclusion after doing the research. Minor points against it. The badge should be blacked out on nightfall edition. Also I would find a dealership willing to sell MSRP and just wait. We waited 6 months.
I waited 8. Worth the wait. Gravity gray, SX, Nightfall, Prestige package. I blacked out the badges myself.
@@gatehouse5209 I too blacked out badges on my wolf gray nightfall. Waited 7 months for delivery
My wife and I went with the Hyundai Palisade Calligraphy over this. We didn't like the exterior styling of the telluride.
You're probably the only one.
We bought 2 kia telluride ex and sx
Base EX model with AWD took about 5 1/2 months
Still waiting on my SX it's been over 6 months.... I am still patiently waiting :(
KIA TELLURIDE SX
White with Dune brown Nappa leather
Add ons:
+ Prestige Package
+ Nightfall Edition
+ Cross Bars
+ Towing Package
+ Illuminated Scuff Plates
+ Interior Light Kit, Multicolored
+ Side step bars
I agree with you. But stating your wife is wrong publicly is just asking for a week on the couch! Love the review, and the smarter come back line.
In all fairness, he did say she was smarter.😉
People are paying more for a Kia than a Lexus, which will last three times as long. Yikes.
Well most people don’t keep cars for more than 10 years. Maybe 20 years ago it would.
Just own a Kia or Hundai in upstate NY. They will be rusted out in 3-4 years.
Kia & Hyundai continue to have reliability issues. The safe buys are Honda & Toyota. Check the resale values on all three.
To answer his question Acura MDX is around the same price and could be better.
I’ll take an Acura over a Kia or Hyundai any day.
If this had a hybrid option it would be unstoppable
Seriously
The norm is to pay 6 to 11,000 over MSRP never mind KIA I will never ever do that I’m buying an Acura MDX
looks fantastic. has all the ups and extras. I'd love to buy it. But Kia's history is poor. Poor engines. Poor transmissions. Poor acknowledgement by the company when things really go wrong...and a refusal to do anything about it. He says they're flying off lots "and that's all you need to know". And "they haven't changed anything since it was introduced in 2020". Most vehicles don't see changes for 4 or 5 years. Also, they haven't existed long enough to be proven reliable. 2 years on the road? That's when stuff starts happening. Think about how many Toyotas are out there with 100K, 150K, 200+K? A LOT! How many Kias with 100K out there? Exactly. As for "flying off the dealer lots", I'll just quote George Carlin: “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” This isn't a car review. This is a car bl**j*b.
I traded in my 2018 Dodge Durango GT for an AWD 2022 Toyota Highlander Hybrid. My wallet’s been thanking me ever since.
I personally would never own another Korean car again. All I’ve heard about them is they’re so much improved and the most reliable cars on the market but that didn’t really line up with the ones I owned and the people I knew who owned them. They didn’t hold up at all. They engine, transmission, electrical, issues, etc. at way low miles.
Dodge Durango.
The mark ups are a rip off, no thank you. Other great vehicles out there.
Gas price now is very high if Kia Telluride have offer a hybrid like Toyota Highlander it might be…
Toyota’s have the most reliable hybrid system than any other manufacture the reason for that is because they invested a lot of R&D into it back in the 2000. Now that 2020 is here they have a leg up on everybody. How do I know because I almost all the stress test for the engines.
Definitely see why this is selling so well. It's a good looker and a great value. If one can get over the stigma of driving a minivan, the Toyota Sienna AWD hybrid is an amazing package! 36 mpg, much more overall room than any SUV since the seats can stow away under the floor, more kid friendly since the power sliding doors can be operated remotely revealing a much larger door opening. It's priced very comparably to the Telluride. I'm personally not a Toyota guy but the Sienna is a great package!
The 2020 Palisade! The Best purchase I’ve ever made. The Palisade looks more luxury. The Telluride is more a sporty look.
Don't disrespect your Wife on the Tube Women are often Right
Hyundai Palisade is way better.
Our 2022 telluride was ordered on June 11th. Wolf gray nightfall sx, hopefully it isn't going to take 8 months like the dealer said it was going to take. No markup from our dealership.
Doesn’t mention the transmission issues people are having at 5k miles, the AWD drive shaft issues, the terrible road noise, and the terrible gas mileage. You’re better off with a Highlander hybrid given the gas prices these days, even if the Toyota is “boring”. It’ll last longer as well.
I own a 2021 telluride and ran some test before buying. I found out the avg sound limit was about 53 dm at 70 mph which is very impressive compared to other suv avg 70 db. The air suspension is a huge improvement in ride comfort. The telluride does get great mpg if you know how to optimize the engine. I engineer cars for a living and was able to modify the engine to get 30mpg Cruising at 70 mph and in the 25 city. I have alway love Toyota but after driving this one i was impressed. Plus I got it the same color in the SX FWD.
What kind of trans issues? A few of my neighbors and I have Telluride's and no one complained about any of the issues you listed. I have 30k on it and so far we've had chips in the windshield as our only complaint. As a mechanic for Ford I rate this car well. If you can fix Fords you can fix anything lol. I can see myself getting 200k out of it. Just like I did with my last car which was an 04 Honda Pilot. BTW Toyota's are great, long lasting vehicles. I wish they would make them so tall people like my family and I can fit in them.
@@moparmission7093 TSB 089 202004 and transmissions not shifting or feeling like they are shifting into neutral at high speeds or acceleration.
@@09FoxRider That’s awesome man. I’m glad you found a vehicle that fits your personal choice and family’s needs.
@@moloono1 Thanks! I'll put that on the service desk if we run into that problem. I looked it up it applies to build dates: February 6, 2019 through December 9, 2019 and we have 7/20 build. But I'll mention it if we run into this issue. Thanks👍
KIA is definitely building up their reputation. Soon they will be up there with Honda and Toyota. The Telluride is one awesome looking ride man👌👍🔥
Hey FORD ... hey General Motors .... are you paying attention!?!?
It might be a great vehicle, it might be a great deal, but it is not an investment. Depreciating assets are an expense.
20 years ago I'd have NEVER bought a Kia or Hyundai, but these days they are my two fav automakers.
I don't see any Toyota vehicles catching fire 🔥 on their own,look at the huge recall Hyundai and Kia are going through right now because of their engines going up in flames , and before you said I'm a Toyota Fanboy,I have family and friends that have been affected by this recall.
Captain's chairs are perfect for kids. They sit far apart and it's harder for them to fight 😂
Really kia tht great I do not own but friends have there motor issues have discouraged alot of people from buy there stuff including Hyundai V6 in certain stuff has had issues just saying
10000 dollar markup? Hello Tahoe
Your wife may be saying what she’s saying because with this vehicle (and any Kia) with the 3.8 engine it hesitates when accelerating in a 90 degree or greater turn.
Atlas is better Kia it’s a toy compared to Vw ,,, inside space wise and power wise Vw losse on mpg, that becouse Kia runs on Atkinson engine get your numbers ppl
I think the Atlas has more road presence in my opinion. Love those strong hips.
CX-9 better
Got a chance to test drive both. I like the Telluride morr than the Palisade. The Palisade for all it’s bling and tech felt bloated and numb. I’m sure it would make for good long haul car but the driving was uninspiring.
Yes she is wrong the telluride is one of the best suvs on the market. The best for price period
Well we all know who’s not getting any for awhile 😂
Sorry but your wife is rigth Kia and Hyundai have a bad bad se recall those cars are cooking ppl inside ,, hence catching fire without warning .. actually there is a chance to put a stop on that production till the take it seriously and fix the problem
We have 2022 Kia Telluride!!! I really wanted to buy Wolf grey night fall edition but a problem was mark up!! So we bought white color! We really love this car! perfect!
The Telluride looks good, but I’ll take the reliability and gas mileage of the Highlander Platinum Hybrid. Especially during Biden’s gas hike.
Can you please provide actual data to back up your opinion. All data and reports from the last two decades show Toyota and Lexus dominate reliability. Kia and Hyundai have horrible reliability ratings, with current recalls advising owners to not park near structures due to engine fires.
Wife say no! Lol awesome better than telluride Highlander XSE
Pass. My dealer wants 10K over MSRP!!! Are you kidding me?
When are you going to do a review of the refreshed '23 model? Especially the new X-Pro trim level? And is the Telluride still the best non-luxury 3-row SUV hands down?? Inquiring minds like mine want to know your opinion.
Your wife is smarter than you are. With Kia's abysmal recall's, she is absolutely correct.
No his wife is wrong. Wake up
Toyota and Honda have proven reliability...blah blah blah...Yes, they have proven their reliability. Now, they don't need to be reliable anymore, because people already think that they are. Now, they are cheaping out, coasting, and resting on their previously established reputation. They are like Apollo Creed in Rocky 1, and KIA is like Rocky. Kia is hungry and has something to prove...so that's who I'm betting on. “Give a man a reputation as an early riser and he can sleep 'til noon.”
That thing is crap, and it drives like crap - I would rather own an old GX460 / GX470 / TLC / LX470 / LX570 and keep the difference
I'm all about horse power and torque. Do these family cars have any of that? All of these amenities, but no get up and get me the hell outta here!
You’d probably love the new MDX then. Check it out!
I am getting it...wanted to Soul when it a hot the 2017...am going for the Telluride...told my wife already no discussion
We Check that Telluride for my wife, but she preferred the Hybrid Highlander.
Smart move during the Biden years. The Highlander gets 50% more mpg than Telluride
That'll be full EV, not hybrid @@maga6319
Well it's called the EV9... if there is a Telluride hybrid, that's still to be announced@@maga6319
Telluride & EV9 are separate right now... I guess what I meant is I hadn't heard of any Telluride hybrid
Just that the EV9 will effectively be an all electric "Telluride" @@maga6319
They'll be charged up, whilst they burn up. LoL! You didnt mention rear vents.
Wont lie, it looks great. But i was sitting in traffic next to one and the engine sounded like crap as it idled. And wasnt even old looking. Im no mechanic, but after listening to that I have some reservations with longevity.
I have mine 2022 EX Premium wolf gray Nightfall Edition.. so many base models out there..
If FCA improve their reliability a little. Grand Cherokee L limited would be the king in the segment
That’s my assessment as well. Too bad their reliability is in the toilet.
Palisade or telluride? Both are great choices,I prefer telluride with the traditional shifter knob
I bought a Palisade Limited last year and have absolutely no regrets. Super comfortable ride with tons of options. I stopped by the dealership for a 100% covered oil change and talked with my salesman while I waited. He said every vehicle that comes off the delivery trucks is spoken for when it arrives. That cannot keep any Hyundai on the lot. (All I saw on the lot were used Jeeps, Dodges, Fords, and Chevys that people evidently traded in.) I don’t think you showed anything on the Kia that the Hyundai doesn’t have, and the Hyundai interior is way nicer. For example, no floating infotainment screen that looks like it was stuck on the dash as an afterthought.
100% agree way more luxurious interior 👏
Well you don't have folding mirrors and your towing package looks aftermarket on the palisades...next year when the palisades gets a nightfall package then that might help to get rid of that hearst look.
I like my hearse! 😂 I agree about the hitch. I had a much nicer setup on my Durango. (There was a pop out in the bumper.)
Telluride EV9 coming out end of next year
I guess wait & see what she has to say about that 😝
I have a 21 sx fully loaded knightfall wolf gray just like in the vid.. paid 60 grand.. already paid it off and its still worth how much i paid with 25 tho miles.. great car
I want to see how this model holds up in 5-7 years. Let's see if it can reach 100k miles without major problems.
Don't forget the best in class 10 year warranty
I have a Hyundai Palisade, basically the same car(hardware wise). The best SUV in the segment!!
Toyota Sequoia, the Korean twins are too small for growing families.
Durango RT , Jeep Wagoneer , new and bigger Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit . All compare in some ways but as far as bang for your buck yes this is a great value . The manual window shades the ambient lights the leather quality are a huge bargain .
I love the Kia Telluride, I've driven it, it is very nice! Maybe when I grow-up I can be a Telluride driver, right now I love my 2022 Kia Seltos SX, AWD also don't forget the remote start, very important in the winter months.😁
I have the 21 SX Prestige Dark Moss!! Love it love it love it. Had it since Oct 2020 and it has gained value!!
She's wrong for sure, best SUV in the segment.
Nissan Pathfinder maybe????
Hey Dave, aren't those two kiddos too old for the dipper bag? LOL. Thanks for doing the review; I have been watching you since 2013.
A diaper bag isn't just for diapers.
What you're NOT telling people is how bad the rear suspension booms and reverberates throughout the cabin over every bump and expansion joint you hit! You're also not telling people how loud the road noise in the cabin is compared to others in the segment. Just test drive the new Pathfinder, Grand Cherokee, Pilot, MDX and then this Kia thing. the difference is more than obvious. Compare how loud you have to speak for your passengers to hear you. The Koreans are at least 10 years behind the US and Japan in suspension sophistication and sound deadening.
Not to mention the in-house transmissions that people are replacing at 5k miles.
I've had the 2022 Telluride since October and I have no clue what you're talking about.
@@TimboDawg drive it back to back, you’ll see. My wife, who doesn’t notice stuff like that even noticed it. Unless the brand new Telluride we test drove last week with the sticker on it was wrecked 😛. The JGC-L we picked up last night is leagues ahead in refinement.
@@maga6319 Don’t make me laugh. Provide any evidence that they are “more reliable”. I’ll wait.
Kia has been killing it since the release of the Stinger. Folks just haven’t been paying attention or something. Idk. But Dave, would you also look at a RST Tahoe or a Yukon SLT? They are also very family friendly with a usable 3rd row plus better towing. My wife and I are debating this.
I hate the way the Telluride drives. Honda Pilot feels way better on the road. I don’t understand the hype of this SUV whatsoever.
I agree. Test drove both vehicles and purchased the Pilot. The Telluride is the new kid in town, looks nice on the outside but thats pretty much it.
Good luck with that outdated technology and interior.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 thank you. Purchased the Elite in 2020. I really like the interior and does not look outdated to me. Have no issues with the "outdated" technology either. It works well, has all I need and more. My sister on the other hand could use some luck. She purchased the Telluride SX trim, which looks really sharp, her windshield cracked at 3,000 miles and the transmission slips at times while on the freeway and cannot accelerate. They have not been able to remedy the problem yet.
@@lani9779 That's odd. My Cousin has one and he don't have any issues with his so far. He actually traded his Toyota Highlander for the Telluride. I'm glad you don't think the interior of your Pilot is not outdated. I'm saying that because the infotainment is just too small and looks old..Especially for the Elite trim. Even most Auto Journalists says the same thing. But looks are objective to some.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 Yes, looks can be objective. Some reviews praise the pilots interior and others not as much. The layout and colors used for the touchscreen buttons is my favorite part and the 8 inch screen and does not seem small to me. I also like the touchscreen flushed with no actual hard buttons, looks cleaner in my opinion. I was looking at purchasing a Toyota highlander as well, but there were some small things I did not like about it, but I would of been happy with it as well. What kind of car do you drive?
I have never seen more coveted vehicle in a segment in my lifetime .
can you tell me the model of this telluride??
nah im good. KIA is not a luxury car just a nice car with tech.... and now ppl are paying 60-70k for this....
I have a 2021 Telluride and we absolutely love it!!
I own a 2021 Telluride SX nightfall edition that I bought new in December of 2020. We have taken it on a family road trip, and have put 21,000 worry free miles on the vehicle. While many people look at Toyota for longevity, due to its history, let’s look at the hybrid system and how many of those systems have actually faired in the past decade. If you are going to only look at the past (1980’s-2010) then yes, the Toyota and Honda history have been reliable (even if that wasn’t the case in the 1970’s). What some of you may not be noticing is that even with recalls, Kia and parent company Hyundai have been making better more reliable cars than either Honda and Toyota over the past decade. With vehicles like the 4-Runner and Land Cruiser still sitting at the top of the longevity because they don’t want to mess with a good thing. Even though the Land Cruiser is now dead, I can’t imagine they wouldn’t bring it back. Granted for a mainstream, non-luxury (still classified as a luxury SUV by some) three row, off-road SUV you would only be paying upwards of $80,000 for a new one two years ago (if you were getting a base model).
In my opinion, the Hyundai and Kia brands got their start like Toyota and Honda did by making small economy cars that weren’t meant to last long, but got people into cars (such as teenagers and young adults). They weren’t great 30 years ago, and it wasn’t until probably 2005 or 2006 when they really put a lot of work into reliability and quality.
According to enthusiasts, the Telluride is the quietest on the road and on the highway of any mainstream SUV. It isn’t quite as sporty as the CX-9. It has less room and is smaller than the GM trio. It can’t go as far off-road as the Jeep Grand Cherokee L. It doesn’t get the fuel economy of the Highlander or Pilot. However, it ranks second in a lot of those categories versus the competition; making it the best all-a-rounder.
For those people who have written off both Kia and Hyundai because of the reliability issues of the past, please look at the history of your vehicles. It isn’t pretty for anyone. I recommend my Telluride to everyone! Thank Everyman Driver. Sorry to vent on your page.
How many windshields have you replaced?
And yet they are still ranked as average in reliability for 10-year ownership. Toyota, Lexus, and Honda are still at the top.
@@illik4018 zero.
@@maga6319 What are you yapping on about? Consumer Reports has Hyundai at 11th place and Kia at 19th, LMFAO!
one of the hardest vehicles to find right now. If I needed a giant suv I’d probably get it
Facts was just at a dealership looking at an Ev6 wind only tellurides I saw were 20/21 with that damn dealer “market adjustment “ on them. Can’t even imagine what a 22 would be even just an lx trim probably over 50k
No she's not that thing is just as ugly as the Hyundai Palisade
New acura mdx is better
Just bought one and I love it!!!!
Nice looking ride, however long term durability and reliability tell the test. I'll go for the Toyota Highlander.
The Sorrento rivals the telluride and they have a phev version. We just purchased the hybrid about 3 weeks ago .... Absolutely insanely good car. 3 row seating with captains chairs along with 33 mpg city has made my wife really happy.