Here is another very VERY educational video about counter-steering if you haven't seen it yet. It can save your life. Ride safe th-cam.com/video/VVE79XT8-Mg/w-d-xo.html
The third technique shown in this video was taught to me by a professional racer. He also said to keep 1 or 2 fingers on the brake lever to stabilize your grip so. If your bike seems twitchy, especially in traffic, this will help stabilize your throttle grip and make the bike smoother. Have fun, shiny side up.
Although this video was posted two years ago, its still helpful today. I'm on day two of riding a new cruiser after 23 years of not riding. I have found myself using #3, the dragger method as you had demonstrated, and I find that I have good control of my bike.
"the ice cream cone" got me more lean angle in the corner. I always thought I was scared to lean more but it turns out, it was my body position that was limiting me.
if you just want lean angle of the bike (and not necessarily go fast), then push the bike into the corner (i.e., effecticely leaning towards the outside of the turn). This will get you the highest leaning angle of the bike at lowest speed
I used lot of your techniques on my ride full of hilly roads, nearly 70kms stretch of sharp corners. and mixed highway conditions. The total ride was 260kms / 165miles. And the route we took was one of the most difficult one. There was a complete hill climb and then downfall of 35kms stretch. But believe me by using your techniques of cornering, throttling. I didn’t faced any single issue. And my ride went smooth. There was not any post riding strain on my body my wrists, elbows and back was perfectly fine. Thanks mate ! Love from India 🇮🇳
@Jaxson lyk the license issuing Authority here in india itself takes the driving tests. To drive a car you need to appear via drivinfg school, but for motorcycles you can apply directly and the Government officials will take your test.
I looked online for so many years to find the correct way to open to full throttle- never found anything. 100% best motorbike channel on TH-cam, no bull
Yesterday I did my first ride on a 125cc ktm duke, was shocked how sensitive the throttle is, was kinda scary I am doing my a2 license pretty soon and now I am a little bit scared haha
@@aishwardhan6478 was fine. Switched between first and second gear, tried a u-turn. Just hurt my balls on braking shortly before i stopped the bike haha
@@Talkingaboutfeetpersecond grip the bike with your legs, like riding an horse, doing that prevents your body from shifting in the seat when you're accelerating and braking
Everyone talks about the importance of throttle control but I think no one else shows this in a that easy way to understand in a 2 minute video like you. thx for your vids :)
I use all of those. Dragger for the first second of acceleration. After on the straight i use the squeeser to relaxe my hand. And going in a swiper i use the screwdriver or Ice cone technique.
I watched an interview that suggested using your middle two fingers to cover the front brake, moving the pressure point farther toward the outside of the lever while also allowing for more precise throttle control. I don't ride a sport bike, but I thought this was an interesting idea.
I used to do that in my younger days of riding. It allows more precise control, but quite tiring in everyday street riding. Now i mostly use #3 as it allows me to cover the brakes for quicker response time & trail braking.
the dragger style, back in the days where the front brakes had drum and cable, moving the pressure point farther toward the outside of the lever meant less effort for the fingers and the hand. today is more about precision on throttle while trail braking than effort. it suit me much better than any other way of braking 10+ now
Gotta give a thumbs up here. You could have been like every other TH-camr and turned this into a 20 minute video. But you didn't. You kept it short, sweet and to the point. kudos
I use the wrist curl method most the time. I thought that's what most people did. Just move only your hand at the wrist joint. Roll back and forth. Because you shouldn't be squeezing hard or leaning on the bars you should not experience any wrist pain or injuries. Start with a bigger bite or smaller bite depending on the scenario. For example tight u turns and manoeuvres grab the grip at a lower point so it limits the range of roll or Start higher up for open fast riding. Grip can be adjusted between gear shifts. This method is what I always use riding technical off road.
I think riders starting on a powerful motorcycle should stick to the "wrong" way until they get used to the bike. Otherwise the bike jerks them back and because of the wrong hand position it pulls more throttle which jerks them back even more resulting in a wheelie and potentially some broken bones.
I use Dragger sometimes. But as I ride often in urban traffic, due to the lower speeds, manning the handlebars is a must, so I can't be gentle with it.
The elbow lock is over-exaggerated here. You never need to twist your elbow to give full throttle. Just readjusting the grip a bit and fully twisting the wrist is enough to give full throttle. This came naturally to me while learning to ride a motorcycle.
What isn't mentioned here is that the "ice cream cone" technique Only works on right hand turns, because that would obviously not work if you're hanging off the left side of the bike. Also the truth is it's actually a combination of #2 , #3 ,and also actual twisting of the throttle.
❤ from India. riding since 10 years. ice cream cone grip a recent revelation thanks to u. tried it for 3 months now. my opinion. pros: . ICC brings best out of my bike throttle. easy overtakes . long rides are less pain . in less to none traffic, best grip cons: . in heavy traffic. i change to normal grip. . all fingers are on throttle rolling action. so they don’t jump to front break suddenly. mostly 1or 2 react.
Hey Mike, thanks for the content but it’s easy on theory but in practice is damn hard man because less contact with throttle equals less control. It’s just like holding a cup with two fingers verses full palm. Am talking about riding in traffic not on a track since when you lean on corners you definitely need to adjust the way you are rolling the throttle. Wonder what you think?
This is crazy! Over the years, I slowly learnt to trust my instincts and listen to what my body is saying. Am new to biking, and the traditional way of gripping the throttle wasn't cutting out for me. I had issues with balancing the fuel, bike and my wrist kept hurting. I instinctively started holding it with my fingers while my wrist rested on the solid frame at the end. Having a solid rest gave me total control and ease to ride the bike. Become a master in one ride. Also, taking the time to learn and master where every control and button was really helped. I faced ahead while I let my hands do the work.
I use the so called Dragger method while riding in busy streets/city's . Always ready for the front brake. Also this works really good on bumpy roads to keep your throttle consistent, and be smooth with trail braking. Ice cream cone method only in corners for me ( with serious lean angle's) otherwise It's not even nessecary. The squeezer method works perfectly for me if i want to open the throttle completely >> smooth but fast . Nice video as always! :)
When I speeding i use that "death grip" but i loosen it so I'm not gripping to hard, sometimes I'll use that cone grip but it's no to comfortable for me...
@@extec101 try that cone grip.. it's not too comfortable (for me) but it's little bit hard to twist that throttle (for me), but it's easier to control your throttlewith cone grip (sorry bad english)
I'm a dragger. Make sure your grips and gloves are clean if you are having trouble with the glove slipping or having to use a tight grip. Cleaning made a big difference for me. I drag all the way out to the middle of my fingers by the time I'm done braking and ready to power out of a turn.
I'm riding for 2 years and driving school never explained this. Id say I am a decent rider and a fast learner. But I must admit I was definitely holding on to the handle bars wayy more. Next bike arrives in a week and I will definitely try to improve this.
Maybe not always so feasible in Street conditions where you have potholes, choppy surfaces, and road debris (sand, gravel, etc). To some degree a rider must maintain a firm, POSITIVE grip on the bars, certainly during dramatic moments, including heavy acceleration. There've been times when I was accelerating hard and hit some road chop, and the forces yanked the grip from my hand. But generally I agree with the idea of a more "moderate" grip, in general. On the Racetrack, it's a different world where the surface is predictable.
the way I do it is by using a Ryde Thumb Rest, it's a piece of plastic that you clip onto the throttle and then you can just use your thumb. Probably not recommended for the track, but great for long road trips
Hi Mike! I was practicing leaning on a street bike(Z400) and has got to the point that I can comfortably drag my knees on both side. However when I jump back on my track bike(ZX6R), the huge change in body position make me feel like I still don’t know how to lean. How to overcome this transition? Is this practice useful?
Ive been using the third one since I learned to ride motorcycles waaay back when I was 11 years old. I just prefer to have my fingers over the levers. Now, i find it really convenient doing trail braking as I am already used to that grip.
@chris with all the dogs suddenly crossing the streets here in our place, I'd take the risk of having my fingers over the levers to be able to stop as soon as possible. I average 3-4 near misses per month on those damned dogs alone. Having the fingers ready saved me. But on long stretches of clear roads I dont do the finger over the lever thing.
I've been riding for a year and a half but I'm sad to say that I've always rolled the throttle wrong. I knew that it wasn't a good way to do so(had my elbow cramp up during rides) but I never found a better method. thank you for this video! keep the rubber side down
👍👍👍👍 I did never follow youtube or web tutorial about ride techniques but i just ride. I allways follow my instinct. And now i have the confirmation.... You just told me that i'm right🍾🍾👍👍👍👍👍
This is very helpful, simple and effective. I never used gloves, but now that I use gloves these techniques are even more critical almost relearning that feel.
I don't know why I watched this since I'm going with the classic way but I put my hand too front so my elbow and my control is okay but I loved the way that you immediately get to the point without fooling around 💪
Very good advice. Plus death gripping the bars will (like you said) result in your upper body getting too involved with the bikes handling. Let the suspension do what it’s designed to do
There is another reason to use the "Ice Cone" technique for Dirt Bike riders. When you are going fast on a bumpy track or a long way of little whoops, you can avoid giving unintentional throttle hits a each bumps and shocks with this technique.
Best video I seen by you have a few people who ride zx10r and they complain about the wobble in 1st and 2nd gear I explained to them it's their grip and position I never got a wobble on my zx10r only if I was death gripping it I learned to relax and it smoothed out
Did not know it but I'm dragger ! Comes naturally with trail braking I guess. Commenting mostly for the algorithm and to thank you for your overall excellent vulgarisation of science.
I didn't know it was called "Dragger" but I always use this method for throttling. It's quite comfortable and I have full control over my acceleration and brakes.
I always use the 3rd style.. safest to use on public roads.. always ready for braking with a braking preload.. rest the palm on throttle gentle rolling using the thumb
Ohhh! I learned the sqeezer by instinct. When I was young I used to ride around a very old low powered scooter. In order for it to run at a proper speed (yeah like 20kmph or 30kmph hahaha its very slow) so I constantly have my elbow downward to throttle it as almost full speed. Soon after I felt like this was tiring so I used my fingers instead and it worked wonders!
As a new rider and victim of whisky throttle twice, this video was worth adding to my collection on throttle control so I downloaded it (of course for illegal sale on the North Korean black market. No worries, they cannot obtain motorcycles but they can dream of getting away LOL ) I like the idea of the ice cream cone and the digger but not the squeezer. It seems to me the squeezer has too little contact with the grip and it seems a small bump could make you lose control.
Hey man, good vids been watching your videos today as it pours rain. Very informational and well explained. I was on another well known M/C TH-cam channel, I had asked him for input on a question and got met with condescending arrogance rather than insight. I guess my question was too squid for him, but through searching the internet for an answer to my question I came across your channel, and have found you to be very informative. 👍
I race and i use all the bar end as it a stationary point of the grip it doesnt move its a anchor point... the further down the trottle tube you go the slower the turn rate is and it also becomes harder so in turn it naturally makes you roll on slower rolling on slower helps with rear grip and reduces whell spin even with T control
Good video bro! Short and sweet. I like it. Me personally, it just depends on my riding at the time (aggressive or relaxed). I try not to be aggressive too often, but I have been here and there. But, normally I use the dragger. I ride at night on the highways a lot. Not by choice either. We have a lot of deer here. I ended up going off the shoulder in a curve last night due to a deer and it sucked. Scratched my paint thanks to gravel and tall weeds and grass. Went off the shoulder at about 60 MPH, managed to keep the bike upright and keep myself good. Got a broken rib from my body hitting the deers head, but, bike didn't take a collision and no real damage other than scratches. I was doing about 76 when I spotted the deer charging at me from the side of the road. I think I'll do more like 60 at night to be safer next time. I hate deer on the roads. But, what can you do?
Regarding speed wobble, to mitigate when I feel it coming on, I firm up/death grip to quiet the side to side motion, slow down (no brake) or maintain speed until gone. Every bike/road condition/cause is different- most important remain calm and ride it out. Be comfortable with that and you can handle the worst tank slapper - but keep the bar pressure loose and ease off speed- you're just a passenger praying.
I wouldn't hold harder when you feel it coming on. The reason it's coming on is the front tire is having an issue tracking straight and holding harder will prevent it from doing that and possibly cause the tank slapper.
Though having the grip that way is usefull, this way you have to release the throttle in order to brake (you twist back your wrist thus the throttle releases). This way you prevent giving gas while using the brake in for example an emergency, a lot of unexperienced bikers do this.
I, unknowingly, use the dragging method since I started. It's mainly because where I live n mostly drive, the traffic is very unpredictable, so I always keep 2 fingers on the front brake lever.
wish I would have seen this when I was riding motorbikes to try it... anyway great tutorial! If I would be motorbiking again I will definetely learn these techniques
Dragger for me. My hand rides up against the grip to create more friction so that I don't have to pinch my thumb and forefinger as much. I find this gives tighter throttle control when I am riding in A mode, and it also relieves fatigue.
I’ve been told by track coaches. Grip the bar as if I was removing a screw using a screwdriver. It was easy to adjust since I use screwdrivers at work everyday as a mechanic. 👌
Hello, It's funny that something so simple and instinctive is so hard to explain to a novice. You did a great job at explaining what isn't obvious for all people.👍 Cheers from Belgium
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Fun fact: 'Mike on Bikes' is actually short for 'Michael on Bichaels'.
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Damn !!
Sarcasm level 💯.
wow straight up, no bollocks, other youtubers could make this 10+ mins video but u made it only 2 mins, respect
Mission completed
amen, brother
Birds gotta fly, youtubera gotta eat
Respec!!
Some would have a 30 second musical intro before they even got started.
Damn my man really said. “You’re doing this wrong. Do it like this. Okay we’re done here.”
Thanks for not dragging this out into a 15 min video lol
so rare on youtube.
Short and straight to the point. Nice!
Exactly
No 10-minute intro to make 3 good points. Straight to the important messages.
Lol
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This was VERY important. Especially for the trail braking bit
I agree!
Was? Its not important now?
Specialy Trailbreaking you most use throttle and front breaking together in a way that is the only way possible to do it
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I just got my license. As I’m trying to learn more good things and I saw this. I think it’s really beneficial to me. I Have to learn more, thank you.
Here is another very VERY educational video about counter-steering if you haven't seen it yet. It can save your life. Ride safe
th-cam.com/video/VVE79XT8-Mg/w-d-xo.html
@American Patriot, Just watched the link you send. Wow. Thank you for sending the link. I will do my very best to be a safe rider.
The third technique shown in this video was taught to me by a professional racer. He also said to keep 1 or 2 fingers on the brake lever to stabilize your grip so. If your bike seems twitchy, especially in traffic, this will help stabilize your throttle grip and make the bike smoother.
Have fun, shiny side up.
@@fbidenflagguy it's educational but how do you get your license without knowing that? you should do that as soon as you rode a bicycle once tbh
@@Baum-rp6bt You don't need to learn this to pass a motorcycle operator's test unfortunately.
Although this video was posted two years ago, its still helpful today. I'm on day two of riding a new cruiser after 23 years of not riding. I have found myself using #3, the dragger method as you had demonstrated, and I find that I have good control of my bike.
"the ice cream cone" got me more lean angle in the corner. I always thought I was scared to lean more but it turns out, it was my body position that was limiting me.
yep me too - left handers all the way - right handers....ermmmm how???!!! The slight adjustment is all that's needed!! :)
if you just want lean angle of the bike (and not necessarily go fast), then push the bike into the corner (i.e., effecticely leaning towards the outside of the turn). This will get you the highest leaning angle of the bike at lowest speed
@@boahgeil465 That's a counter lean right?
@@calebcantrell9115 yes
Me, who rides a 50cc moped watching this for no reason
Same here! :D Nontheless, I´m a dragger.
110cc scooter here. I use a throttle assist so am naturally dragging. Nearly all motorcycle skills translate to scooters and mopeds, I've found. 😁
You'll want to buy a bigger bike one day and this will come in handy.
Me, ride a 115cc scooter also watching this :v
It really doesnt matter if youre on a 50cc or a 1000cc bike, biker knowledge applies to all riders, stay safe out there bois.
Been riding for 8 years and I still watch these basics videos
theres always something to learn
Good to keep refreshing. There’s so much going on when riding to retain every little thing every time we go out.
Me who saw Hindi subtitles staright unexpectedly, dude you're a legend
I used lot of your techniques on my ride full of hilly roads, nearly 70kms stretch of sharp corners. and mixed highway conditions. The total ride was 260kms / 165miles. And the route we took was one of the most difficult one. There was a complete hill climb and then downfall of 35kms stretch. But believe me by using your techniques of cornering, throttling. I didn’t faced any single issue. And my ride went smooth. There was not any post riding strain on my body my wrists, elbows and back was perfectly fine.
Thanks mate !
Love from India 🇮🇳
@Jaxson lyk yes ! I learnt riding on own.
@Jaxson lyk the license issuing Authority here in india itself takes the driving tests. To drive a car you need to appear via drivinfg school, but for motorcycles you can apply directly and the Government officials will take your test.
My dad gave me 80cc scooter last year 🙂.
This really helped me to how to throttle my scooter.. Thank you.
I looked online for so many years to find the correct way to open to full throttle- never found anything. 100% best motorbike channel on TH-cam, no bull
Doing this alone makes the biggest difference in your riding skill.
Mad respect .
Got a new subscriber. Thanks for NOT stretching 2 minutes of fantastic, concise information into 15 minutes like many others.
Usefull for someone who's looking to start on a 600cc.
Yesterday I did my first ride on a 125cc ktm duke, was shocked how sensitive the throttle is, was kinda scary
I am doing my a2 license pretty soon and now I am a little bit scared haha
How'd it go?
@@aishwardhan6478 was fine. Switched between first and second gear, tried a u-turn.
Just hurt my balls on braking shortly before i stopped the bike haha
@@Talkingaboutfeetpersecond grip the bike with your legs, like riding an horse, doing that prevents your body from shifting in the seat when you're accelerating and braking
@@Talkingaboutfeetpersecond 125cc is just a baby
Everyone talks about the importance of throttle control but I think no one else shows this in a that easy way to understand in a 2 minute video like you. thx for your vids :)
I use all of those. Dragger for the first second of acceleration. After on the straight i use the squeeser to relaxe my hand. And going in a swiper i use the screwdriver or Ice cone technique.
The world needs more "straight to point - no bs" videos like this one.
I watched an interview that suggested using your middle two fingers to cover the front brake, moving the pressure point farther toward the outside of the lever while also allowing for more precise throttle control. I don't ride a sport bike, but I thought this was an interesting idea.
I used to do that in my younger days of riding. It allows more precise control, but quite tiring in everyday street riding. Now i mostly use #3 as it allows me to cover the brakes for quicker response time & trail braking.
the dragger style, back in the days where the front brakes had drum and cable, moving the pressure point farther toward the outside of the lever meant less effort for the fingers and the hand. today is more about precision on throttle while trail braking than effort. it suit me much better than any other way of braking 10+ now
Gotta give a thumbs up here. You could have been like every other TH-camr and turned this into a 20 minute video. But you didn't. You kept it short, sweet and to the point. kudos
Just yesterday I was struggling to find a suitable wrist position for trail braking, thanks a lot Mike:)
I’m a simple man, i smash that LIKE button before the video finished coz i know it’s useful to improvise my riding skill 🦾
The last one is my style, good to know that it's working well and you recommend it
I use the wrist curl method most the time. I thought that's what most people did. Just move only your hand at the wrist joint. Roll back and forth. Because you shouldn't be squeezing hard or leaning on the bars you should not experience any wrist pain or injuries. Start with a bigger bite or smaller bite depending on the scenario. For example tight u turns and manoeuvres grab the grip at a lower point so it limits the range of roll or Start higher up for open fast riding. Grip can be adjusted between gear shifts. This method is what I always use riding technical off road.
I think riders starting on a powerful motorcycle should stick to the "wrong" way until they get used to the bike. Otherwise the bike jerks them back and because of the wrong hand position it pulls more throttle which jerks them back even more resulting in a wheelie and potentially some broken bones.
Turned a Yamaha into modern art in exactly that way
Quite right.
Im a begginer motorcyclist who strugles with acceleration control. You sir just earned my subscribption.
Man, this man needs more audience!
And a "kipper" for breakfast ?.....bless
Every tip/guide video should be like this direct to the point, clear, and not a waste of time. Subbed!
Wow. I’ve been riding bikes for a good amount of 7 years and this is quite new to me. Awesome! Thanks for the info.
50cc cafe here. These tips are really god damn helpful even if I dont and cant go too deep into corners.
I use Dragger sometimes. But as I ride often in urban traffic, due to the lower speeds, manning the handlebars is a must, so I can't be gentle with it.
The elbow lock is over-exaggerated here. You never need to twist your elbow to give full throttle. Just readjusting the grip a bit and fully twisting the wrist is enough to give full throttle. This came naturally to me while learning to ride a motorcycle.
Amazing watching other riders and realizing how much skill you put into your rides. Keep on keeping 2 wheeler broskis
What isn't mentioned here is that the "ice cream cone" technique Only works on right hand turns, because that would obviously not work if you're hanging off the left side of the bike. Also the truth is it's actually a combination of #2 , #3 ,and also actual twisting of the throttle.
Actually it can work on the left side.It all comes down to rider preference.Which is why he gave us the three best ways to do it
@@taskforceknight9336 No it doesn't work. Try riding a motorcycle and you will see.
it would if your weight is against the bike with your leg holding you up
One of the most important videos on TH-cam
There is always something to learn
those are the best line 💙💙
❤ from India. riding since 10 years. ice cream cone grip a recent revelation thanks to u. tried it for 3 months now. my opinion.
pros:
. ICC brings best out of my bike throttle. easy overtakes
. long rides are less pain
. in less to none traffic, best grip
cons:
. in heavy traffic. i change to normal grip.
. all fingers are on throttle rolling action. so they don’t jump to front break suddenly. mostly 1or 2 react.
Hey Mike, thanks for the content but it’s easy on theory but in practice is damn hard man because less contact with throttle equals less control. It’s just like holding a cup with two fingers verses full palm.
Am talking about riding in traffic not on a track since when you lean on corners you definitely need to adjust the way you are rolling the throttle.
Wonder what you think?
You know what will happen if you get a tank slapper I don't think you will be able to hold on using those grips LOL
practice it in hills with a lot of corners that way some how you automatically incorporate it .
I learned from my first 2000 mi trip that alternating between these will help with fatigue too.
Great video
I call it the "screwdriver". Just hold and twist the throttle like you would when using a screwdriver.
thats what ive been following
Been riding for about 5 years yet i still learned something. Thanks
3. Dragger is my way. Always 2 fingers on brakes. #SafeThrottle ♥
Only if you are riding on the road
@@sos8747 Yes
only 2 fingers on brakes is the first thing you learn NOT TO Do at driving school.
I never knew there is so much to learn just in handling a throttle. Thanks.
I really like that dragger style, but instead of using just the palm of my hand I also use the ring and pinkie to hold the throttle
This is crazy!
Over the years, I slowly learnt to trust my instincts and listen to what my body is saying. Am new to biking, and the traditional way of gripping the throttle wasn't cutting out for me. I had issues with balancing the fuel, bike and my wrist kept hurting.
I instinctively started holding it with my fingers while my wrist rested on the solid frame at the end. Having a solid rest gave me total control and ease to ride the bike. Become a master in one ride.
Also, taking the time to learn and master where every control and button was really helped. I faced ahead while I let my hands do the work.
This is great!
Thank you so much for this
I'm the dragger all the way, so I can brake instantly.
prob the most common (and should always use) for all street riders.
For street/road rides it’s the best way
It reduces the risk of panic braking
I use the so called Dragger method while riding in busy streets/city's . Always ready for the front brake. Also this works really good on bumpy roads to keep your throttle consistent, and be smooth with trail braking. Ice cream cone method only in corners for me ( with serious lean angle's) otherwise It's not even nessecary. The squeezer method works perfectly for me if i want to open the throttle completely >> smooth but fast . Nice video as always! :)
When I speeding i use that "death grip" but i loosen it so I'm not gripping to hard, sometimes I'll use that cone grip but it's no to comfortable for me...
the cone grip looks wierd but i havent tryed it before.
i also use the death grip in a loose way.
@@extec101 try that cone grip.. it's not too comfortable (for me) but it's little bit hard to twist that throttle (for me), but it's easier to control your throttlewith cone grip (sorry bad english)
I'm a dragger. Make sure your grips and gloves are clean if you are having trouble with the glove slipping or having to use a tight grip. Cleaning made a big difference for me. I drag all the way out to the middle of my fingers by the time I'm done braking and ready to power out of a turn.
I always used the „Dragger“ method and didn’t even notice lol
That's the one I naturally started using too. I'm gonna try the ice cream cone
Thats how everybody does it lol
I'm riding for 2 years and driving school never explained this. Id say I am a decent rider and a fast learner. But I must admit I was definitely holding on to the handle bars wayy more.
Next bike arrives in a week and I will definitely try to improve this.
Maybe not always so feasible in Street conditions where you have potholes, choppy surfaces, and road debris (sand, gravel, etc). To some degree a rider must maintain a firm, POSITIVE grip on the bars, certainly during dramatic moments, including heavy acceleration. There've been times when I was accelerating hard and hit some road chop, and the forces yanked the grip from my hand. But generally I agree with the idea of a more "moderate" grip, in general. On the Racetrack, it's a different world where the surface is predictable.
The dragger, that s my personal favorite. It comes natural and it allows you to be smooth and relaxed.
None of these work once you are wearing motorcycle gloves.
And I've been doing it wrong for the past 45 years of riding motorcycles😂
the way I do it is by using a Ryde Thumb Rest, it's a piece of plastic that you clip onto the throttle and then you can just use your thumb. Probably not recommended for the track, but great for long road trips
I just ride it, never thought about it, just like my ex wives
Man been riding for two years now still watch vids like these
Hi Mike! I was practicing leaning on a street bike(Z400) and has got to the point that I can comfortably drag my knees on both side. However when I jump back on my track bike(ZX6R), the huge change in body position make me feel like I still don’t know how to lean. How to overcome this transition? Is this practice useful?
Well explained! The dominant technique I use is dragger. I feel so relaxed doing that and is always ready to use the front brake.
Wait this is too early oh no
You essentially use almost all 3. Each technique of throttle control depends on which side of the bike you're on! Great video.
Ive been using the third one since I learned to ride motorcycles waaay back when I was 11 years old. I just prefer to have my fingers over the levers. Now, i find it really convenient doing trail braking as I am already used to that grip.
@chris with all the dogs suddenly crossing the streets here in our place, I'd take the risk of having my fingers over the levers to be able to stop as soon as possible. I average 3-4 near misses per month on those damned dogs alone. Having the fingers ready saved me. But on long stretches of clear roads I dont do the finger over the lever thing.
I've been riding for a year and a half but I'm sad to say that I've always rolled the throttle wrong. I knew that it wasn't a good way to do so(had my elbow cramp up during rides) but I never found a better method. thank you for this video! keep the rubber side down
Yes i have done this in years of my motorcycling but Mike explain it to be better.. He make it more clearly.. Thanks Mike!
👍👍👍👍 I did never follow youtube or web tutorial about ride techniques but i just ride. I allways follow my instinct. And now i have the confirmation.... You just told me that i'm right🍾🍾👍👍👍👍👍
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This is very helpful, simple and effective. I never used gloves, but now that I use gloves these techniques are even more critical almost relearning that feel.
I don't know why I watched this since I'm going with the classic way but I put my hand too front so my elbow and my control is okay but I loved the way that you immediately get to the point without fooling around 💪
Ever since I saw your channel my biking skills improved a lot, thank you and more power!
You are God! This video in the best one I have ever seen. It is a must watch for all motorcyclists! Thank you very much 😊
Very good advice. Plus death gripping the bars will (like you said) result in your upper body getting too involved with the bikes handling. Let the suspension do what it’s designed to do
Relax just relax
Wow, so I've been doing the dragger without knowing what it's called. Thanks for the info, man!
There is another reason to use the "Ice Cone" technique for Dirt Bike riders. When you are going fast on a bumpy track or a long way of little whoops, you can avoid giving unintentional throttle hits a each bumps and shocks with this technique.
Best video I seen by you have a few people who ride zx10r and they complain about the wobble in 1st and 2nd gear I explained to them it's their grip and position I never got a wobble on my zx10r only if I was death gripping it I learned to relax and it smoothed out
Did not know it but I'm dragger ! Comes naturally with trail braking I guess. Commenting mostly for the algorithm and to thank you for your overall excellent vulgarisation of science.
I didn't know it was called "Dragger" but I always use this method for throttling. It's quite comfortable and I have full control over my acceleration and brakes.
I always use the 3rd style.. safest to use on public roads.. always ready for braking with a braking preload.. rest the palm on throttle gentle rolling using the thumb
Ohhh! I learned the sqeezer by instinct. When I was young I used to ride around a very old low powered scooter. In order for it to run at a proper speed (yeah like 20kmph or 30kmph hahaha its very slow) so I constantly have my elbow downward to throttle it as almost full speed. Soon after I felt like this was tiring so I used my fingers instead and it worked wonders!
As a new rider and victim of whisky throttle twice, this video was worth adding to my collection on throttle control so I downloaded it (of course for illegal sale on the North Korean black market. No worries, they cannot obtain motorcycles but they can dream of getting away LOL ) I like the idea of the ice cream cone and the digger but not the squeezer. It seems to me the squeezer has too little contact with the grip and it seems a small bump could make you lose control.
Hey man, good vids been watching your videos today as it pours rain. Very informational and well explained. I was on another well known M/C TH-cam channel, I had asked him for input on a question and got met with condescending arrogance rather than insight. I guess my question was too squid for him, but through searching the internet for an answer to my question I came across your channel, and have found you to be very informative. 👍
I race and i use all the bar end as it a stationary point of the grip it doesnt move its a anchor point... the further down the trottle tube you go the slower the turn rate is and it also becomes harder so in turn it naturally makes you roll on slower rolling on slower helps with rear grip and reduces whell spin even with T control
Good video bro! Short and sweet. I like it. Me personally, it just depends on my riding at the time (aggressive or relaxed). I try not to be aggressive too often, but I have been here and there. But, normally I use the dragger. I ride at night on the highways a lot. Not by choice either. We have a lot of deer here. I ended up going off the shoulder in a curve last night due to a deer and it sucked. Scratched my paint thanks to gravel and tall weeds and grass. Went off the shoulder at about 60 MPH, managed to keep the bike upright and keep myself good. Got a broken rib from my body hitting the deers head, but, bike didn't take a collision and no real damage other than scratches. I was doing about 76 when I spotted the deer charging at me from the side of the road. I think I'll do more like 60 at night to be safer next time. I hate deer on the roads. But, what can you do?
No nonsense, straight to the point, great information, great soundtrack. You sir just got a new subscriber.
Wooaahh 😮 I just watched this video now and I've been using this three methods for the last 7 years.
Regarding speed wobble, to mitigate when I feel it coming on, I firm up/death grip to quiet the side to side motion, slow down (no brake) or maintain speed until gone. Every bike/road condition/cause is different- most important remain calm and ride it out. Be comfortable with that and you can handle the worst tank slapper - but keep the bar pressure loose and ease off speed- you're just a passenger praying.
I wouldn't hold harder when you feel it coming on. The reason it's coming on is the front tire is having an issue tracking straight and holding harder will prevent it from doing that and possibly cause the tank slapper.
Thank you. I explained the same DRAGGER thing, my friends laughed at me. I'll share the video which proves me I am RIGHT!
Suscribed without thinking after this straight to the point video, nice job man
Though having the grip that way is usefull, this way you have to release the throttle in order to brake (you twist back your wrist thus the throttle releases). This way you prevent giving gas while using the brake in for example an emergency, a lot of unexperienced bikers do this.
I've been riding bike for almost 10 years and this video make me forget how I usually roll the throttle.
I, unknowingly, use the dragging method since I started. It's mainly because where I live n mostly drive, the traffic is very unpredictable, so I always keep 2 fingers on the front brake lever.
I use third throttle way.. its very effective and I have good grip and good control on throttle and break
It doesn't matter, the important is you control the throttle and comportable you are.
Wow! firstly, thanks for the info. Secondly, thanks for the straight forward video. No blah blah blah.
wish I would have seen this when I was riding motorbikes to try it... anyway great tutorial! If I would be motorbiking again I will definetely learn these techniques
Dragger for me. My hand rides up against the grip to create more friction so that I don't have to pinch my thumb and forefinger as much. I find this gives tighter throttle control when I am riding in A mode, and it also relieves fatigue.
I’ve been told by track coaches. Grip the bar as if I was removing a screw using a screwdriver. It was easy to adjust since I use screwdrivers at work everyday as a mechanic. 👌
I was never taught how to grip the throttle, been using the "ice cone" grip technique since my first ride.
Hello,
It's funny that something so simple and instinctive is so hard to explain to a novice.
You did a great job at explaining what isn't obvious for all people.👍
Cheers from Belgium
I've been using the dragger method most exclusively since I started to ride with 2 fingers on the brake lever at all times.
A very short video but a very informative one.