Kind of a stupid question, bit wouldn't quickscoped headshots be more damaging overall than fully charged headshots, at least for Sniper? Edit: Ope, you covered it.
@@justarandomdood The only possible way to get enough health to survive a fully charged headshots is a Dalokahs Bar overhealed Heavy. You can also survive with Fists of Steel or the Vac.
@@danielpinto9077 But tf2 is different than overwatch, in tf2 you can go on rampages all by yourself(at least in casual you do), but in overwatch you need to work as a team, would that be someone creating a distraction for some genji to drop with his ult when the other team doesnt expect it or another example zarya's ult is only good with a dps's ult designed for multi kills.
Considering that the soldier can snap a bears neck while naked and covered in honey effortlessly without even being scratched, comparing TF2 to any other game canonically is a lost cause
As well as heavy being able to murder a mother bear without effort at all.(and btw a bear is 6 times stronger than a human) a bear and can rip someone's head off by slapping it) medic being able to revive the dead and outsmart the literal devil. demo having so much alcohol in his bloodstream it would kill a vampire. and the team being able to destroy an army of evil robots (which is cannon to the story btw) you already know they picked the best of the best.
M B don't forget Scout is literally God's gift to the mortal world, Soldier can't die because of the pills he stole from Merasmus, Demo is a walking distillery, Engineer is able to cheat death with all the machines he's made for the Mann Brothers, and they all have magic on their side thanks to the books Merasmus gave them. Overall, the Mercs are unstoppable and no other fictional characters can reach their level of insanity and effort to do what they do best.
@@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 If we consider the Steam Workshop to be actual Mann Co items, then they also have access to modern armor on top of being able to survive missile hits and explosions. Scout's SG is extradimensional, he never reloads.
Norian Arijuna that's relatively true. After all, TF was a mod made by fans. And many weapons and cosmetics were officially made it into the game. The connection to fans is what gives TF2 more power
To be fair, sniper's gun deals a LOT more damage. I think you should've compared charge to damage rates, more specifically: how much does a gun have to charge to deal the same amount of damage? Sniper deals 450 damage in Tf2 already, if converted to overwatch, it deals 720 damage. Sniper might have a longer charge, but a fully charged headshot from him could instakill ALL of Overwatch's tanks. Widowmaker deals less than half of that. Sniper's rifle would deal 240 damage on headshot when uncharged, and would barely even have to charge his gun half-way to deal the same amount of damage as widowmaker when fully charged. Long-story-short. If you tested how long it would take for both guns to deal a 300 damage headshot, they would be roughly the same, but Sniper's can go FAR beyond that. It's kinda like comparing a PSG-1 to a M82. The PSG is faster, but the M82 uses the highest caliber for a sniper rifle available.
Bazar bargain on fastest reload speed can't match the widow charge tho, on a side note, bazar initial charging speed is really low (Yes I know that you are probably aware of that but had to say it)
@@theswarmsquad3606 Because some people are assholes in general and they think they're like some weird ass divine shit that their opinion only matters and with this same attitude it can lead to war and despair
“If you are reading this snoiper boolet gives you one Toofty point” caught it! It looked like the scout that was in a ragdoll when I first saw it lmao.
i think it would have been worth looking into the percentage of classes/heroes that they could each kill in one shot with a headshot, for both quickscopes and fully charged for example sniper can kill 56% of classes in one shot with a quickscoped headshot (scout, medic, sniper, engi, and spy) and 100% with a fully charged idk what widowmakers numbers would be but i know that overwatch has some chonky bois so i would presume it'd be considerably lower
10:05 The Sniper from TF2 does have shields to deal with, obviously the Vaccinator is a big one, same with classic Ubercharge. A bit more jokingly are the random cloaked spies that get in the way of a headshot.
@Brian Treves Yep, but the constant resistance is only with stock/Enthusiast's Timepiece/Quäckenbirdt. It was a buff a while ago (since Gun Mettle, apparently). From wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Invis_Watch: "While cloaked, the Spy receives 20% less damage from all sources. In addition, while the Spy is invisible, status effects (eg: Jarate, bleed, afterburn) will have reduced duration." So, if you see a spy cloak after getting burned, they're (possibly) not as dumb as you think. The Dead Ringer also has damage resistance while cloaked but it's variable.
In a regular match of tf2 you won’t have to contend with shields, (Ubercharge I wouldn’t really count, it’s more of a condition it’s not like it’s meant to disadvantage long distance fighters like shields.)
TF2 Sniper: represents the light-hearted and funny snipers and sometimes quickscopers. Widowmaker: represents the serious aggressive snipers who will hunt you down.
Widowmaker: No standards, doesn't pee, is the woman behind the slaughter Sniper TF2: Standards, pee power, also does slaughter but isn't purple. I don't understand how there is a competition.
Honestly, I think the reason is that Overwatch characters are a lot better equipped than TF2 characters often are, while TF2 characters are a lot more skilled. Widowmaker has a supply of venom bombs, high-power infared sniper goggles, a grappling hook built into her suit and a combination carbine/sniper rifle that fires special rounds charged with whatever gives it the tracer effect. Stock sniper has a knife, an smg and a regular sniper rifle with a scope attached. The fact he's keeping pace at all is impressive in itself.
and yet she cant even one shot all the heroes while sniper can one shot all default classes with a fully charged headshot and can kill everything to ever live with a fully charged machina headshot
I like sniper much better though. Snipers shots just feel so much more powerful, as they actually make a difference vs the tanks that require 3+ shots to kill. It just feels more satisfying to get a headshot with sniper rather than widowmaker.
I'm fairly certain the zoom-in headshot delay statistic is referring to a mechanic built into every sniper rifle where the Sniper cannot deal headshots for the first fraction of a second of being zoomed in. Essentially, you have to wait 0.2 seconds after scoping in to be able to do a headshot. As seen on the TF2 Wiki, in the February 14, 2008 patch: "Added a delay (200 ms) before a zoomed Sniper shot can get a critical hit."
Widow's gun is kinda like combination of Machina and SMG Both have shot tracers Both have futuristic design with dark colours And also Machina can give Sniper a little bonus to his DPS! Think about this
The main difference between Widow and Sniper isn’t their minimum kill potential, but maximum. A sniper can kill a Heavy under normal conditions with 1 shot no matter what if he has enough time to charge, while Widow takes at least 2 (I think) headshots to kill someone such as Reinhardt
I feel like some people are forgetting that health in overwatch works kinda different, some heroes have massive hp pools (>300) while other have armour. but hey, overwatch bad so who knows
Quickscopes would deal 240 damage, and less than a second of charge to deal over 300, and fully charged would deal 720 (basically one shot anyone) In practical gameplay sniper would be way stronger than widow in raw damage output
@@arbikverq9058 Well tf2 is a 12v12 war that the sniper doesn't exist if you are killing him or he just killed you. Even if a soldier jumps at a sniper, the sniper can still headshot em. Not to mention pybros who just defend snipers and engies
150 damage quickscopes after the .2 sec headshot delay can’t be understated. A quickscope + unscoped shot is so good in comparison to having to wait for a full charge.
Huh, interesting. Sniper feels a lot more powerful to me, but then again I haven't played Overwatch much. My best gues is that in Overwatch you have specific class roles like tanks which can take much more damage in comparison to the rest. In TF2 all classes are very close to each other health wise exept heavy. And even then, soldier and demo move slower and are therfore easier to hit. And not to mention these thrice damned bloody shields.
The reason Sniper feels more powerful is that he deals far more damage than Widowmaker and other snipers in Overwatch. If converted to OW, and uncharged headshot would deal 240 damage and a charged headshot would deal 720. If Sniper was in Overwatch, he could take out any opponent, including tanks with a single fully charged shot. But considering tanks in OW only have 600 health, he wouldn't even need to charge his shots fully.
We dont even need that vid, we know that spy that can backstab and kill you no matter what will win over a hacker that hacks health packs and disables enemy abilities
Honistly, I find Ashe more similar in game play to the TF2's sniper than Widdowmaker. Something about the way Widdowmaker and the sniper feel is just... off. It might just be the fact that Ashe's gun feels like an actual gun while Widdowmaker's feels like a peashooter. Also you absolutely should do an episode of Huntsman vs Hanzo.
Widowmaker’s rifle is a semi-automatic burst fire rifle though, as it charges it shoots more bullets per shot; while Sniper has a single round bolt-action rifle. Of course Widow will win in DPS but in terms of raw firepower and how strong each rifle is, I think that’s what ultimately matters more. Sniper would be able to quickscope Widow using your numbers and decimate OW characters with longer charger shots, something I don’t think Widow would be able to do on the inverse.
Toofty, at 7:40 did you take into account the crit delay on sniper? There is a 0.2 second delay between the instant you scope and when your shot starts charging. An uncharged shot, even to the head, will deal 50 dmg.
A skilled TF2 sniper can straight up double his dps if he uses the Bazaar Bargain. It has a slow charge rate at first but it increases by 25% for every headshot kill. Once at its maximum of six headshot kills, the Bazaar Bargain's recharge rate is twice as fast as stock. This is the go to sniper rifle to use if you get headshot kills efficiently and die rarely. A straight upgrade to stock when in the right hands.
I wonder if Sniper's Sniper Rifle would be a viable sidegrade for Widowmaker. Yes, it fires much much slower, but it has a much higher damage ceiling. It would also be interesting to see the "time to death" for various classes/heroes. Assuming perfect accuracy, how quickly could Widowmaker kill a Heavy, and how quickly could Sniper kill the big tanks?
@@InternetMonster1 Before Jungle Inferno the danger shield had a 10% bullet resistance instead of the fire resistance. In combination with the +25 HP this made the wearer able to survive fully charged bodyshots and uncharged headshots, giving the wearer a significant advantage in sniper duels. This was generally agreed to be unfun to play against and so it got reworked in jungle inferno.
@@jackhudner3804 I know. I am saying that his comment is not relevant anymore since the item is no longer what it used to be. TBH, the new Danger Shield is just as bad.
lmk what characters you'd like to see in this series :)
Probably soldier to whoever has rockets. Great video tho
Heavy weapons spy
Kind of a stupid question, bit wouldn't quickscoped headshots be more damaging overall than fully charged headshots, at least for Sniper?
Edit: Ope, you covered it.
Scout vs Tracer
Next heavy
"Okay yes, but does Widowmaker have standards? I didn't think so."
-A professional with standards.
@@despair4780 proud
She comes with built-in wallhacks. No, she has no standards. That, and she's French.
Throws piss at her
She's probably get beated by a golf trophy, explaining why she doesn't have any standards.
Does she have jars of piss as a weapon?
*No. That instantly makes her not viable as a sniper*
Sniper has the ability to kill every one with 1 shot anywhere on the map while widowmaker cant kill tanks and heros with 300 health.
I mean... does any class in TF2 have more than 300 health? (not counting medic overheal)
@@tokoname619 Dalokohs bar Heavy
@@tokoname619 Excuse me sir but 1 health in tf2=1.6 health in overwatch
@@justarandomdood The only possible way to get enough health to survive a fully charged headshots is a Dalokahs Bar overhealed Heavy. You can also survive with Fists of Steel or the Vac.
@@danielpinto9077 But tf2 is different than overwatch, in tf2 you can go on rampages all by yourself(at least in casual you do), but in overwatch you need to work as a team, would that be someone creating a distraction for some genji to drop with his ult when the other team doesnt expect it or another example zarya's ult is only good with a dps's ult designed for multi kills.
Widowmaker: has graplinghook
Sniper: laughs in Mannpower
I can't believe he actually did this !
Piss on bocal
cries in mannpower. Sadly nobody plays mannpower anymore
@@yall732 Sometimes yes
Sniper : laughs in surfing explosives
Is *thiccness* a stat?
Cause Sniper would *clearly* win
If bladder control is one window maker will win.
This implies sniper holds himself,which he can anytime if you decide not to throw the Jarate.
he's craaazy
@@deth1634 Maybe engi built a tele for his pocket so he can teleport the unneeded jars outta there
Sniper is rectangular, making him thiccer
Sniper would win,he knows exatly how to deal with french people
YES
JARATE!!!
@@telebread6970 is this?!?! Mon dieu!
Throw a piss and f#cking bucksaw it
A jarate a day keeps the Frenchie away
You forgot some thing..... Widow cant T pose
T-pose to assert dominance.
Virgin Widowmaker vs Chad Civilian Sniper
Zer0kyo is super smart because he/she takes the time to correct and unimportant mistake that was intentional.
Well.... hate to break it to you, she actually can, all 3D game models can.
TordPlayz Gaming Can she t pose at will in-game? No. She can not.
Wm: grappling hook
Sniper: piss
Well sniper is clearly better
YES THANKS YOU MATE
Mannpower
*YUP!*
I think you mean “on demand random crits”
Trade servers: how about'ta both
Sniper would esily win because he is a professional
And Has STANDERS
He's polite.
He’s efficient
@@MicDISCO and has a plan to kill everyone he meets
He got jar of his own urine
Considering that the soldier can snap a bears neck while naked and covered in honey effortlessly without even being scratched, comparing TF2 to any other game canonically is a lost cause
As well as heavy being able to murder a mother bear without effort at all.(and btw a bear is 6 times stronger than a human) a bear and can rip someone's head off by slapping it) medic being able to revive the dead and outsmart the literal devil. demo having so much alcohol in his bloodstream it would kill a vampire. and the team being able to destroy an army of evil robots (which is cannon to the story btw) you already know they picked the best of the best.
M B don't forget Scout is literally God's gift to the mortal world, Soldier can't die because of the pills he stole from Merasmus, Demo is a walking distillery, Engineer is able to cheat death with all the machines he's made for the Mann Brothers, and they all have magic on their side thanks to the books Merasmus gave them. Overall, the Mercs are unstoppable and no other fictional characters can reach their level of insanity and effort to do what they do best.
@@logannottheonefrommarvel9917
If we consider the Steam Workshop to be actual Mann Co items, then they also have access to modern armor on top of being able to survive missile hits and explosions.
Scout's SG is extradimensional, he never reloads.
@@MB-eh2kp wow I didn't know a bear was 6x stronger than a bear.
Norian Arijuna that's relatively true. After all, TF was a mod made by fans. And many weapons and cosmetics were officially made it into the game. The connection to fans is what gives TF2 more power
To be fair, sniper's gun deals a LOT more damage. I think you should've compared charge to damage rates, more specifically: how much does a gun have to charge to deal the same amount of damage? Sniper deals 450 damage in Tf2 already, if converted to overwatch, it deals 720 damage. Sniper might have a longer charge, but a fully charged headshot from him could instakill ALL of Overwatch's tanks. Widowmaker deals less than half of that. Sniper's rifle would deal 240 damage on headshot when uncharged, and would barely even have to charge his gun half-way to deal the same amount of damage as widowmaker when fully charged.
Long-story-short. If you tested how long it would take for both guns to deal a 300 damage headshot, they would be roughly the same, but Sniper's can go FAR beyond that.
It's kinda like comparing a PSG-1 to a M82. The PSG is faster, but the M82 uses the highest caliber for a sniper rifle available.
True, even though Widownaker fires faster, she can't beat insta 150hp (or 240 OW hp) quickscopes.
i totally agree with this
@@arbikverq9058 you underestimate the power of jarate bushwacka
@@arbikverq9058 it may not be a mobility, but it certainly is BS when you get up close to Sniper only to be insta KO'd by the Bitchwaka
@@arbikverq9058 Im not talking about mobility. *Piss.*
"Widow can charge up shots much faster."
*Laughs in Bazaar Bargain.*
Bazar bargain on fastest reload speed can't match the widow charge tho, on a side note, bazar initial charging speed is really low (Yes I know that you are probably aware of that but had to say it)
Laughs in hitmans heatmaker focus
*Laughs in fully upgraded 4 heads MvM Bazaar Bargain*
@@kaiji4788 *laughs in quickscope one-shots on light classes*
Cry’s in Sydney Sleeper
but Toofty, you do have to choose! haven't you heard? It's illegal to enjoy both games! if you do, you'll be lynched within the hour!
True
Yutir but seriously why is it like that? They’re both great games.
@@theswarmsquad3606 Because some people are assholes in general and they think they're like some weird ass divine shit that their opinion only matters and with this same attitude it can lead to war and despair
@@dontlookatmyvideoREE tis indeed, big sad. I don't like to think of it on a grand scale 'cause it's sort of depressing.
good point
“No shields to hide behind”
Me standing around with my Strange Vaccinator: “Am I a joke to you?”
Random spy: Yes
22burnsie Demoknight: Yes
Third degree pyro:
Heavy:Pootis *Pow!*
Scout: IM RUNNIN CIRCLES AROUND YA
One can turn their head into an owl, the other can’t.
that's certainty for ya
And he is fucking sexy
bow taunt kill
ah, I see we need a Sniper vs. Ana video then
Hoot
10:04: "There are no shields to preotect the heads of those tf2 players"
You just made vaccinator sad
vaccinator is so good it’s just like micromanaging to the max on the medic player
@@tomtoms8480 imo overheal can achieve a similar outcome but better
Windowmaker: My rifle charge 2x fast
Sniper: *laughs in Bazaar Bargain*
Next: Lucksman vs Hanzo
YES
YES
DA
YES
YES
“If you are reading this snoiper boolet gives you one Toofty point” caught it! It looked like the scout that was in a ragdoll when I first saw it lmao.
Where
It took me a while to catch the text, but I did it too, and I thought that it was actually a scout jumping around XD.
I made the play speed to 0.25
I thought it was a scout ragdoll too lol
Widowmaker: has grappling hook
Sniper: *laughs in jarate*
i think it would have been worth looking into the percentage of classes/heroes that they could each kill in one shot with a headshot, for both quickscopes and fully charged
for example sniper can kill 56% of classes in one shot with a quickscoped headshot (scout, medic, sniper, engi, and spy) and 100% with a fully charged
idk what widowmakers numbers would be but i know that overwatch has some chonky bois so i would presume it'd be considerably lower
That's a nice idea
Sniper max damage is 450 . Convert that to overwatch damage and youll have 750 damage.
The French Assassin vs The Australian Sniper
More like: The Baguette eater VS The Pissmaker
So spy vs sniper?
He is from 🥝 kiwi!!!
Sadly sniper is actually from the underwater New Zealand
" hey I've seen this one "
- every sniper that has fought a spy
That bullet sniper hurts, but it was totally worth, considering I now have another toofty point.
xD
"Widowmaker has higher dps"
*Laughs in fully upgraded MvM Hitman's Heatmaker and 4 head Bazaar Bargain snipers*
10:05 The Sniper from TF2 does have shields to deal with, obviously the Vaccinator is a big one, same with classic Ubercharge. A bit more jokingly are the random cloaked spies that get in the way of a headshot.
And a little bit less jokingly there's the damage resistance from stock invis and the dead ringer which can be a nuisance to fight against.
@Brian Treves Yep, but the constant resistance is only with stock/Enthusiast's Timepiece/Quäckenbirdt. It was a buff a while ago (since Gun Mettle, apparently).
From wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Invis_Watch:
"While cloaked, the Spy receives 20% less damage from all sources. In addition, while the Spy is invisible, status effects (eg: Jarate, bleed, afterburn) will have reduced duration."
So, if you see a spy cloak after getting burned, they're (possibly) not as dumb as you think.
The Dead Ringer also has damage resistance while cloaked but it's variable.
In a regular match of tf2 you won’t have to contend with shields, (Ubercharge I wouldn’t really count, it’s more of a condition it’s not like it’s meant to disadvantage long distance fighters like shields.)
*laughs in machina*
Widowmaker: Shoots gun
Snoipah: Shoots piss
sniper would win because he always makes plan to kill everyone he meets.
he was never really on your side
Also piss piss piss
That’s like saying I’d wing in a fight
He's polite
@@ourdreamyoutube3548spy team fortress two
TF2 Sniper: represents the light-hearted and funny snipers and sometimes quickscopers.
Widowmaker: represents the serious aggressive snipers who will hunt you down.
I'm sorry
Sniper is a hired assassin
I read the title before the thumbnail loaded, so I honestly though it was the Engineer shotgun you were talking about.
9:18 Ah, yes, the nationality known as "baguette" =D
7:09 Toofty point
I just wasted 3 full minutes for a toofty point.
worth it
10+ seconds worth it
Totally worth it 2 months for a toofty point
You are amazing content creator!
Keep it up bro!
Thanks dude :)
@@Toofty oh shoot it's toofty
Ah, so those drawings on Twitter were a foreshadowing.
Wha?
Overwatch R34, right?
@@p_filippouz degenerate.
@@kiwisinner
You talk to a mirror?
"Boom, headshot."
MEET THE SNIPER
"THaT hElmEt Of YouR's Iz GoNna MaKE a NiCe BowL fOr Ya BrAinZ!"
Copyright LOLOLOLOLOLOL
All your heads look bloody twelve feet tall
@@aaronhackettfilm Snipin's a good job, mate! It's challengin' work, outta doors.
Widowmaker: one shot... one kill
Sniper: *Laughs in Machina*
I'm a deadbeard main and secondary cactus I don't who this snoopy and window maker is
Bro one v one me giddy park Parrot drone and garlic drone only.
I’m trying to get toofters to play bfn. It’s not going well
I find deadbeard a lot more fun to play than cactus (probably because one-shoting nightcaps is so much fun)
What Deadbeard and Cactus subclass do you play as
Haha barrel go booom
Widowmaker: No standards, doesn't pee, is the woman behind the slaughter
Sniper TF2: Standards, pee power, also does slaughter but isn't purple.
I don't understand how there is a competition.
I love how all of TF2’s characters have way more personality than every hero in Overwatch, despite the amount of lore and cinematic shorts they have.
"i hate you camper, EVERYBODY BLODY HATES YOU!"
©best tf2 character
5:00 thank you so so much!
Thank YOU so much
Let’s thank us both
The best sniper is clearly Captain Deadbeard and Catcus from BFN and GW2.
Well duh
I’m trying to get toofty to play bfn
It’s not going well
Fuck that it's Bea from Brawl Stars
Why is piper not yet called a sniper yet...
Honestly, I think the reason is that Overwatch characters are a lot better equipped than TF2 characters often are, while TF2 characters are a lot more skilled. Widowmaker has a supply of venom bombs, high-power infared sniper goggles, a grappling hook built into her suit and a combination carbine/sniper rifle that fires special rounds charged with whatever gives it the tracer effect. Stock sniper has a knife, an smg and a regular sniper rifle with a scope attached. The fact he's keeping pace at all is impressive in itself.
and yet she cant even one shot all the heroes while sniper can one shot all default classes with a fully charged headshot and can kill everything to ever live with a fully charged machina headshot
"As long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is gonna want someone dead."
awesome vid, you’ve clearly put a lot of work into it and I really enjoyed watching it
Oh hell yeah. These are the best Toofty videos
Demoman vs Junkrat? Has that been done yet?
Just checked, no, a stat comparison hasn't been done, but there is a rap battle between them lol
When was that rap battle made?
@@orpheus9098 There are a couple, but the most recent one is from a year ago.
Demoman has a haunted sword. Junk Rat is on drugs.
Demoman probaly singed about bAahfa imaAaa gOonaSends sbkahm touh paint srtai train sTatiOn aNd GoNaa kiIiCk yOur aSS and a bLoody mOnsTer! *Cries*
The Machina for Sniper has tracer rounds. But, it also does have penetration.
Sniper: stick and stones, can spawn kill you and professional
Widow: needs technology to be okay
I like sniper much better though. Snipers shots just feel so much more powerful, as they actually make a difference vs the tanks that require 3+ shots to kill. It just feels more satisfying to get a headshot with sniper rather than widowmaker.
I'm fairly certain the zoom-in headshot delay statistic is referring to a mechanic built into every sniper rifle where the Sniper cannot deal headshots for the first fraction of a second of being zoomed in. Essentially, you have to wait 0.2 seconds after scoping in to be able to do a headshot. As seen on the TF2 Wiki, in the February 14, 2008 patch: "Added a delay (200 ms) before a zoomed Sniper shot can get a critical hit."
Widow's gun is kinda like combination of Machina and SMG
Both have shot tracers
Both have futuristic design with dark colours
And also Machina can give Sniper a little bonus to his DPS!
Think about this
The main difference between Widow and Sniper isn’t their minimum kill potential, but maximum. A sniper can kill a Heavy under normal conditions with 1 shot no matter what if he has enough time to charge, while Widow takes at least 2 (I think) headshots to kill someone such as Reinhardt
"first of all windowmaker's weapon is more powerful and easy to u-"
"PEE JAR"
"okay yeah but widowmaker hav-"
"HE THROW PISS AT PEOPLE"
Sniper:has tactical skills and instinct
Widowmaker: needs only tech
I feel like some people are forgetting that health in overwatch works kinda different, some heroes have massive hp pools (>300) while other have armour.
but hey, overwatch bad so who knows
Nam MB “Overwatch bad” is the best statement of all time, absolutely beautiful
Overwatch gud I like it but I like tf2 too so please no fight me
Quickscopes would deal 240 damage, and less than a second of charge to deal over 300, and fully charged would deal 720 (basically one shot anyone)
In practical gameplay sniper would be way stronger than widow in raw damage output
@@arbikverq9058
Unless said sniper is godlike enough to slap them out of the air before they can get close.
@@arbikverq9058 Well tf2 is a 12v12 war that the sniper doesn't exist if you are killing him or he just killed you. Even if a soldier jumps at a sniper, the sniper can still headshot em. Not to mention pybros who just defend snipers and engies
150 damage quickscopes after the .2 sec headshot delay can’t be understated. A quickscope + unscoped shot is so good in comparison to having to wait for a full charge.
Huh, interesting. Sniper feels a lot more powerful to me, but then again I haven't played Overwatch much. My best gues is that in Overwatch you have specific class roles like tanks which can take much more damage in comparison to the rest. In TF2 all classes are very close to each other health wise exept heavy. And even then, soldier and demo move slower and are therfore easier to hit. And not to mention these thrice damned bloody shields.
The reason Sniper feels more powerful is that he deals far more damage than Widowmaker and other snipers in Overwatch. If converted to OW, and uncharged headshot would deal 240 damage and a charged headshot would deal 720. If Sniper was in Overwatch, he could take out any opponent, including tanks with a single fully charged shot. But considering tanks in OW only have 600 health, he wouldn't even need to charge his shots fully.
Rule of thumb for character design
If a character is clearly designed in the intent of being sexy, then they are not actually sexy.
- Gaben Newell
With Sniper's ability to change weapons during the round(and the rest of the team) is already a major impact...no doubt sniper is the winner for me.
Why sniper is better
-is sexier
-has a great theme song
-og sniper character
-has standards
-throws jars of piss at people
How absolut you compare a time to kill for once or dual time to kill because thats an important factor
Love the videos
widowmaker: geneticly modified super soldier created to be the perfect assassin
sniper: dude with a gun and a jar of piss
The perfect part is because of the shape of the body?
Anyone remember that bit in tf2 vs overwatch where sniper and widomaker are missing the whole episode
Widowmaker: I have a grappling hook, with sleek athletic thicc body and can charge my shots faster
Sniper: I pee in jars
When it comes to sexiness sniper wins every time. That man is fine af.
scp sex
Medic: *finally,a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!*
When you finish with the others, it would be interesting to see a quick (or not so quick :) ) huntsman snoiper vs Hanzo video
I love this series
next, Spy vs sombra.
We dont even need that vid, we know that spy that can backstab and kill you no matter what will win over a hacker that hacks health packs and disables enemy abilities
@@buzz3248 yes
@@buzz3248 ambassador's headshots, fake his own death, disguise as the enemy, etc.
@@speddoellol1199 damn right spy can kill you i about 100000000 ways while sombra has discount hax and fartgun
Sniper's from Australia/New Zeland. He's dealt with bigger spiders.
9:18 1) she killed her husband in his sleep
2) pretty sure u have a gf or something
9:38 look at the chat. "I fear no man, but that p.a.n, it scares me!
9:18 toofty arent u married or something
You could also have included Sniper's SMG vs Widow's no-scope rifle.
4:16 Wait a minute, didn't this get increased to 1.1 seconds a little while ago? When was this recorded?
I recorded it this week
Actually, there is a setting in TF2 that makes it so you don't un-scope between shots. So that killstreak point doesn't hold up as well.
Age: 33 (same as me so I have a chance) XD
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Loved the vid.
Keep up the good content!
I really love you Videos and i hope you make enough money from TH-cam and Twitch for living :D
Thanks Luames :)
Honistly, I find Ashe more similar in game play to the TF2's sniper than Widdowmaker. Something about the way Widdowmaker and the sniper feel is just... off. It might just be the fact that Ashe's gun feels like an actual gun while Widdowmaker's feels like a peashooter. Also you absolutely should do an episode of Huntsman vs Hanzo.
widowmakah < snoiper
But does Widowmakah have the Piss Rifle?
Widowmaker’s rifle is a semi-automatic burst fire rifle though, as it charges it shoots more bullets per shot; while Sniper has a single round bolt-action rifle. Of course Widow will win in DPS but in terms of raw firepower and how strong each rifle is, I think that’s what ultimately matters more. Sniper would be able to quickscope Widow using your numbers and decimate OW characters with longer charger shots, something I don’t think Widow would be able to do on the inverse.
yeah but OW is nearly dead
That's why it's a stat battle of 'history'
Backstory: I think Widow here due to how farfetched Sniper’s backstory is in the comics
Toofty, at 7:40 did you take into account the crit delay on sniper?
There is a 0.2 second delay between the instant you scope and when your shot starts charging. An uncharged shot, even to the head, will deal 50 dmg.
Widowmaker: futuristic shit
Sniper: piss rifle, sniper rifle, awper hand, piss, knife, and pan
R.I.P Rick May “You we’re real good son real good maybe even the best”
"You and I are a lot alike, mate. Except I'm an owl, and you're dead"
A skilled TF2 sniper can straight up double his dps if he uses the Bazaar Bargain. It has a slow charge rate at first but it increases by 25% for every headshot kill. Once at its maximum of six headshot kills, the Bazaar Bargain's recharge rate is twice as fast as stock. This is the go to sniper rifle to use if you get headshot kills efficiently and die rarely. A straight upgrade to stock when in the right hands.
Death battle did this but they're not always the most credible source
7:10 "If you are reading this snoiper boolet gives you one toofty point"
Well played Toofty XD
Game in the description: Team Fortress 2. Ah finally TH-cam did something right.
It's so satisfying to get a headshot with sniper because of that hit sound "bling" and the firing sound combinet with the death animation of the enemy
I wonder if Sniper's Sniper Rifle would be a viable sidegrade for Widowmaker. Yes, it fires much much slower, but it has a much higher damage ceiling.
It would also be interesting to see the "time to death" for various classes/heroes. Assuming perfect accuracy, how quickly could Widowmaker kill a Heavy, and how quickly could Sniper kill the big tanks?
Even tho there's stats duel for both Windowmaker and Sniper but I still can't find a match where this 2 character fighting each other
don’t forget: squid lady has a super duper future gun, and sniper has... yes
Clearly you haven’t seen the sfm winglet made about them missing every shot
“Here is a touching story, once upon a time, you died. The end.”
I don’t even play OW, but I’d love more of these
The “Oh sorry wrong way around” got me 😂
I mean one is waifu-tier, fetishistic, filthy smut.
And the other is Widowmaker from Overwatch video game.
If Sniper has the old danger shield, Widowmaker wouldn’t stand a chance
Dangershield reduces fire damage, not bullets.
Jonah Kluger it used to give sniper 150 hp and reduce bullet dmg before jungle inferno
@@InternetMonster1 Before Jungle Inferno the danger shield had a 10% bullet resistance instead of the fire resistance. In combination with the +25 HP this made the wearer able to survive fully charged bodyshots and uncharged headshots, giving the wearer a significant advantage in sniper duels. This was generally agreed to be unfun to play against and so it got reworked in jungle inferno.
@@jackhudner3804 I know. I am saying that his comment is not relevant anymore since the item is no longer what it used to be. TBH, the new Danger Shield is just as bad.
@@InternetMonster1 I said OLD danger shield.