Divers React to No Mount Cave Diving
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- This is SO TIGHT!
Original video by @expeditiondivers: • No Mount Cave Diving i...
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Kudos to the camera person, the unsung hero of so many dives. 👏 That is the craziest cave dive I think I've ever seen.
The cameraman was Richard Dreher, and the divers were Tamara Thomsen and Paul Lothary.
For real kudos 👏
The lead diver in the video is a great tech instructor in Madison, WI. Gus and Woody, you need to interview her about the ancient (1200+ year old) canoes she recently discovered in Lake Mendota!!
Woodys disposition is so pleasant and wholesome in every video. He is the type of person i could talk to about anything.
I live right outside of fennimore wi and I have to say I’ve been wanting you two to review this video since I found it, a couples weeks after I began watching you two. You both have inspired me! I found your channel in June of this year. Since then I have quit smoking, started working out, got my asthma almost completely under control, and as of august 27th I am an open water scuba diver! More so, my 10 year old son became obsessed with your videos, along with Jonathan Bird of course. He just completed his swimming lessons and is dead set on getting his junior open water next year. Just want to say THANK YOU BOTH for what you do. We never would’ve discovered this passion without you. I was terrified of any water I couldn’t see the bottom of. Look at me now. Certified in 3 feet of vis
See you around the Wisconsin dive sites (but please don't check out this one without a whole lot of additional training!).
Cant wait! Any spots i should look for you? or good recommendations? Of course not. When i do this, or any overhead environment diving, i will have all of the training and equipment necessary to do it safely.
@@rabbithohl2162 I'm from Madison, so we dive Lake Mendota and Monona a lot (especially late May/June when the viz is great). We also go to Pearl Lake (IL), Devil's Lake, and Wazee frequently. Safe dives!
Congratulations!
45 years of diving and there’s absolutely nothing that draws me to do that !!
Woody - as someone who doesn't like caving or deep water, the reason someone like me can say "I would never want to do this" is that I could not handle the feeling of being trapped. Of being somewhere and not being able to leave when I wanted. Maybe it's tied to control issues, I don't know. The sensation of being surrounded by so much rock/water is too much for me to handle psychologically. That being said, I love watching professionals who execute their craft well and safely, even if it's in a situation that I would never want to be in myself. Keep up the awesome work!
Nobody cares about your weaknesses, get over it.
I am the same. Would never go to tight caves or deep water, I'm too afraid of those environments. But listening to your analysis and comments makes it interesting and accessible. :)
Yes, absolutely. My two biggest phobias are tight places and being trapped underwater (and then drowning -- not just drowning by itself, but the trap aspect.) That's a big huge nope from me.
I can barely even watch this for the same reason. I hate the feeling of being trapped and not being able to leave. Or just turn around.
I feel the same but things like airplanes are fine because I know there is an end to it. Being underground without knowing when or if you will ever leave is horrifying
When it’s that tight, it’s called a crack. Not a cave 🤣
This cave just looks dangerous. Out of all the caves I've seen on this channel this one looks very tight and scary.
Very cool to watch how they maneuver themselves through those restrictions … and so calmly too. Looks like they had fun! 😅
That is one big ol’ nope sandwich.
This made me SO ANXIOUS!! My worst nightmare. I’d panic and die instantly 😆 watching it makes me so thankful I’m not in that situation. Those people who do that are brave!
Same!! I would instantly become a liability because I would wig out.
Same here 😁
This cave is a lot like many farm caves I've explored here in Kentucky. I have loved the exhausting challenge of crawling with the rock pressing against back and chest. I also love SCUBA. But my mind is blown with the thought of that kind of squeeze UNDERWATER! I'm with Gus though, I want some reward on the other side!
Dry caving is my poison. I think it's more dangerous when it comes to gravity when there's no water. I've explored lava tubes and they often are sloped. Some of them can just just drop into a vertical cliff. Imagine going either head first so you can see where you're going but it's downhill, or going feet first and not seeing that there's a potential cliff in front of you. With water I think it's easier to explore places like this. There's always a risk of collapse but there's signs that you can look for on unstable rock. Love you guys. No water for me but I love watching your content.
there's no way ever I would do this.
I couldnt finish. the anxiety hahahaha! Yeah this is my cave nightmare. But good on anyone brave enough to do these caves, and cave diving in general. Love your videos, even though couldnt finish this one
I want to see Woody do this! And I'd be like Gus....sitting up top sipping on a few beers waiting on Woody to surface 😆 🤣
This here, is my own personal hell. I do NOT understand how anyone can attempt this and not panic! 👾🙈 I watch because im in awe!
Definetely above my comfort level
Thank goodness for you guys! I’m having a stressful day today and was relived to see I had a break with Gus and Woody waiting for me on TH-cam! ❤
Then you watched it and felt more stressed?
Hope your day goes completely opposite from this moment on. ☮&🤟 my friend !!
Same! 🥰
I’m late, but I hope your day got better. Or if not I hope tomorrow is better 👍
@@reeverfalls2069 thats the spirit! ♡♡ the energy of love is immeasurable!
4:48 right before you said that, i was thinking the same. Which crazy bastard looks at that crack in a wall, filled with water, and thinks “hey, i bet i can get inside that”. I wouldnt even put my arm in there
Absolutely beautiful cave. It looked serene. Wish I could take a trip to Wisconsin but I’ve already bought tickets for Norway lol. Would love to see that cave in person.
I'm not a cave diver, but I've watched many videos on all types of locations and this one looks pretty rough even for a vet no? The entire thing looks like a restriction and the entrance has a lot going on. Ironically I think a cave like this would give me way more anxiety than something advanced like Eagle's Nest. Maybe that's the inexperience talking, but in a place like Eagle's Nest at least from what I've learned you get to descend through the hole at your own pace and it blows up into a ballroom with 2 directions to choose from. This entrance is flowing hard and goes straight from the land to a heavily restricted cave instantly. There's no buffer or balance, the entire thing is claustrophobic and doesn't seem too enjoyable for a casual dive
*Xanadu* is a synonym of Shangri La:
'In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree:
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man'
....
~ My 4 lines from my favourite Poem in English. It's by Sameul Taylor Coleridge (1772 - 1834)
As a Wisconsinite, I loved watching you guys react to this! Woody's reaction of "Let's go!" and excitement about the problem-solving aspect of this cave is awesome. XD While the challenge might be its own reward, I feel like you guys might also enjoy the food scene here in WI as a reward -- plenty of beer, wine, cheese, and every imaginable ice cream flavor! Also, Fennimore is about 2 hours from the Wisconsin Dells and there are caves and hiking spots galore there with cool geological features (the WI Dells city itself can be a bit of a tourist trap in the summer though).
If you really wanted to make a full week trip of it, the 'sea caves' along the lakeshores plus the waterfalls (like Amnicon), gorges and cliffs (Patterson State Park), shipwrecks, and underwater mines and quarries might interest you. Anyways, keep up the amazing, unique content! I've learned so much about scuba diving and how important teamwork and planning are in that environment from you guys. :)
So wild. This isn’t cave diving, it’s underwater cave crawling. There’s no way I could do this, I’d panic if I didn’t have full range of motion, rock pressing down on me from all sides, I would be hyperventilating. I’m not made for this, but the people who are, much respect to them. Very cool.
I'm not claustrophobic by any means, but even this video alone sent my anxiety skyrocketing. I've been in some dangerous situations in my life (Army and rescue work) but dudes, I'd never ever do this. However! I love watching you guys and your videos and if I ever had to do any diving, I'd want you guys with me. Love you guys! 😁
I completely understand woody. It’s almost like being part of a special club, you’re accomplished and part of few people to do something
Yayyyyy!!!!!! I requested this a long time ago and I’m so thrilled to see you guys finally react to it. This is one of the first cave diving vids I ever saw and it’s so freaking nuts
As always another great review. Love you guys. Happy holidays and blessings to you and your families as well the dive talk family.
Was meaning to say I watched the documentary ‘Daves not coming back’ this morning while setting up elf on the shelf for my little one. Great doc and such a sad loss to the dive world.
Amazing video…it creates suspense for a person who is fascinating by this activity despite not practicing it. I love this and I love watch you guys!!
been requesting this for a while!!! so happy to see this one
Thank you for reacting to this and putting it into perspective for us!
I've been practicing scuba for a while now and just had my first dry suit lesson the other day in the pool....was wild.
Woody you are the best type of crazy. ❤️🤗
You definitely have solid points about if something is fun for you and bonding with others about cool adventures. You might enjoy taking a bike trip in a Minnesota winter. It's kind of a trippy adventure of it's own imo. The hazards seem familiar but take on lots of added context with ice, slush, wind and visibility issues. Well besides the cold of course. 🤭 💙❄️🚲
LOVE YOUR videos ❣️ Greetings from Finland
It takes all sorts... I used to enjoy high board diving and people thought I was bonkers... but this... Gawd 'elp us! You have my deepest respect. As a retired psychotherapist I think the ability for people to enjoy this sport may be rooted in differing experiences of birth trauma as the first (and formative) experience of human anxiety. See: Clinical Theology (Frank Lake); Realms of the Human Unconscious (Stasilav Grof); The Trauma of Birth (Otto Rank). Whereas you scooted into life pleasurably without fear, other people are on an exponential curve of anxiety resulting from feeling utterly trapped in a lightless, tightly constricted space, unable to breath, with a sense of fear extending to that of extreme panic at the thought of imminent death. Maybe, maybe not. In any event I consider you very lucky for the capacity to be calm in those extreme circumstances. It has its rewards, is a joy to share and is well beyond me. Thank you.
Experience in "dry caving" seems that we "work our way up to it" as far as dealing with the extreme experiences and restrictions are concerned... Most of the "true blue died-in-the-wool LIFETIME cavers" I've met had some kind of start with a "tourist cave", one of those curated and well kept affairs. Carlsbad, Bristol Caverns, Linville Caverns (to name a few) and then branched into the sites of "kept natural" types like Mammoth in Kentucky... AND eventually there are a few "adventures" in wilder caves on private property, finding connections with a club or grotto and getting some training. Once you're hooked, you start to explore and expand horizons... AND eventually you get invited for special trips like surveying or exploring when you meet enough fellow cavers. You can still take it about as far (and hard) as you like, but it's ALWAYS "pick your own" as it were. Clubs and Grottos organize the trips, and you sign on with an understanding of the equipment you need to bring, and what can be supplied on request, and who might take charge of specific things, like the survey equipment or the cartographic kit (map making), and any emergency or contingency details... Some groups have very specific arrangements for food on trips, and others are a generic "Camp and bring your own" or "Everyone for themselves" method...
BUT it's almost always from the larger and easier "walking caves" to special sites involved or connected to the "walk through parts" where you get invited to play with gear and rappel or take on a squeeze... As you build your confidence and try new things, you eventually get really into the gymnastics and the restrictions don't bother you so much... Underground we screw around and have a LOT of laughs. I've shimmied down the ropes head-first just to show off among the antics... It's serious enough safety-conscious... but otherwise, a great time hanging out underground... fooling around, mostly...
Sure there are places to get truly compressed and contorted, and some of it's fine, especially with a glorious view to be seen beyond... or some hidden connection to another cave... BUT there's no NEED to force yourself. Lots of places just don't require navigating horrible restrictions, and even rappeling and climbing aren't necessarily skills you HAVE to have for caving, though in some few certain places they are requisite to complete the journey...
I've never once come out of a cave without being absolutely covered from head to toe in MUCK, though... SO the term "dry cave" is dubious at best. You absolutely RUIN clothes and shoes grinding against sand and rock, and frequently face hypothermia for exposure to FRIGID water... BUT the level of hazard and type of cave you face is mostly up to YOUR sense of adventure. LOTS of places underground are simply ENORMOUS. ;o)
The intense music of the video is exactly what I imagine running through my mind as I struggle to squeeze my body through this tiny little space 😂😭
This is what dry caving can be like, when there's not water obviously lol. I am used to larger limestone caves that maybe involve some rapelling but not many crawls or squeezes. And limestone caves are beautiful!
Yeah but that gets boring kinda quick, we always need to push a new limit.
I thought this looked familiar, this was the first cave diving video I ever watched. Got me into this whole genre of video, love seeing you guys react to it so many years later
there's no way in hell I'd ever even attempt that, interesting video as always guys 👍
seriously i would LOVE a tour as you did with your dive gear Gus but with woody's "special hats closet" :D
This is what I thought most cave diving was like, all of your other videos are getting my comfortable with the idea of cave diving
As a man from Wisconsin I’m surprised that’s there’s not 10ft of snow on the ground.
Dang, had no idea Wisconsin had anything like this. 3 hours from me.
for me this is the essence of what cave diving is, I always remember being out riding my mountain bike, seeing 2 guys lugging cylinders up a trail that lead pretty much to knowhere, I asked them and sump exploring was their reply, obviously i asked them. a lot more questions and 30 yrs later, ive still not ticked that first underwater cave yet!
Ok, made it half way through before my claustrophobia kicked in too hard. The Cheese Grater did me in.
Youu guys are awesome! Your videos are the most entertaining on TH-cam.
the first guy going in there also didnt know when he would be able to turn around and crawl back. Thats the real scary part
You can crowl backward!
GHOST DIVERS is that realistically doable? Backtracking through all of those tight restrictions seems really rough. To be fair, all of it seems really tough to me.
@@rchltrrs it's doable if the floor is horizontal and usually for few meter only! For how long you can last... it really depends on cave topography and human factor! But I did it many times and it's an option!
Hey hey hey it’s about time !!!! Thank you for showing this
You all are heros of the water!! I couldn't do it bc of my fear of water mixed with tight places!! I drown when I was a child and was brought back!!
Cool I was one of the ones who suggested you guys talk about this one, a dream come true for me.
Interesting to hear you guys take on it.👍
Wow.. this was claustrophobic just watching it... Imagine being in it... I'd definitely be having panic attacks. What if you actually got stuck, how would you be rescued?? As always, a very interesting video!! Best wishes from Co Dublin Ireland ☘️🙂🇮🇪
Somebody would have to go in and pull you out. Or tie a rope to your ankles and pull you out from the surface.
@@DIVETALK Thanks for the reply 😊 I never thought about rescue from the surface.. probably be easier that way, than going in after them. You guys definitely have an interesting hobby!!
My concern would be the guy in front of me getting stuck.
@@meshamybelle you help them get unstuck and keep going
This reminds me of the guy who was dry cave exploring, went the wrong way in a very tight space like this and ended up completely inverted and stuck. They tried multiple times to pull him out (even talked about breaking his legs), but he was wedged too tight. He ended up passing away from being inverted so long and they sealed the cave with him still inside. My worst nightmare.
*claustrophobia intensifies*
This takes "oh, HELL no..." to a completely new level..
I'm not a diver sadly, but I would like to try this at least once! I'd of course need a lot of diving experience and then caving diving experience before trying this. It looks so fun though! I'd also need to work on building muscle, because I know as of right now I'm puny, lol. Thanks Gus and Woody for another great video!
This was the first cave diving video I watched and it blew my mind and I immediately wanted to go cave diving after watching this.
Also I love the Australian Aboriginal didgeridoo tribal song, my daughter is of the yamatji tribe western Australia 😁😁😁
I talk about you guys all the time. I’m on a PSD team out here in Texas. I love your videos!!
Ok I could not finish this literally had pannic attack ! I didn't think my claustrophobia would affect an inner video but wow that's tight I stopped right when she took her helmet off kudos to her and whoever filmed this is just as crazy cuz I don't know how they did it
That was some serious flow!
Homegrown in Wisconsin and #1 I would have never thought to see my home state in your video lol and #2 you guys ripping on wisco in the beginning was hilarious 😂
I just can’t see how this is enjoyable
Thank you!! You guys are awesome!
He said "if I knew there was a burger king on the other side....WE ARE GOING THROUGH" 😂 UM NO, YOU ARE. I'm already having enough trouble breathing while watching this lmao
Yes representative from Wisconsin lol 😂 Wisconsinite here. I can confirm it snowed today there is no grass showing 😂
Woody you should do it
My mind was screaming profanity the whole time. "Fudge that" would be the censored version. I'd love to learn to dive open, maybe maybe might be interested in a cave if it was very very wide and open the whole way. Those tight spaces give me the heebie jeebies in or out of water. It wouldn't even matter if there was a diamond/unicorn sprinkled area beyond! My psyche could not handle it! Kudos to you guys who can, will, and do plus film so ppl like me can see it.
Id love to dive you guys but this is another level 😂 awesome video
Love your videos. I'm not a diver. Only ever snorkeled a few times but stayed at the surface. No plans to scuba ever.
Most of the tight space videos I don't have an issue watching. This one was tough. Triggered some claustrophobia big time. 😂
i reckon you can do it woody i have been watching you and gus for a while now and you guys are amazing what you guys do you two always plan and Analize whatever cave you two decide to do. so go for it woody if you wanna go and give it ago i believe in you and i recon gus will be there for you to give you extra support because you two make a amazing team and have a great friendship and even practice in caves what you know as well to get the technique down pat
Ok, claustrophobia attack! Thanks guys.
I’m the same, I’d really want a reward at the other end like some really cool rooms. That Shangri La cave portion woody did up to the No mount part looks fun, but with all no mount in a known cave like this one it would be way more worth it imo if there’s something interesting on the other end. I feel like an exploratory situation would be different though because of the excitement that no one has ever been there, and obviously the fact that you have no idea if there’s something interesting in there or not. That unknown is somewhat of a fear but also a draw at the same time.
Dive talk!! Does cave diving or diving in general put pressure on the head or jaw? Im asking cause from chemo and radiation my jawline isn’t that strong at all or my head and didn’t know if pressure from being deep underwater affects you. I’ve been in a hyperbaric chandler tons of times. Is it kinda similar to that? 😊
Love the videos! Miss you guys!!
My friend and I want to try out diving and eventually get certified, and then eventually work our ways up to cave diving, and I always feel a little comforted when it comes to the idea of restrictions by the fact that I am a really small person, and if everyone else who's usually a lot larger than me can do it, I can do it. Same applies for dry caving, which is what I enjoy! I feel like I would enjoy diving as much as I enjoy hiking.
That’s nuts. I’m into dry caving and I don’t like restrictions that narrow in a regular cave. Props to these people that enjoy this! As woody says, a lot of things come with experience!
this isnt cave diving this is crack diving
This is a a whole new level !! I’ll keep watching those videos from those braves ones but me… I don’t think so 😅!!
Nice video. Thanks for the great content! If you guys haven’t already you should do a video about Parker Turner. He was an FSU volunteer dive instructor and certified cave diver who went into a cave with a few buddies in 1991. On the way out one of the other guys released air bubbles that dislodged limestone rocks which blocked an entry way and trapped Parker and his partner Bill Gavin. They both managed to cram through a hole in the blockage and Bill luckily escaped, but because of the zero viz Parker couldn’t find the guide line and ran out of air, tragically causing his death. Would be interesting to hear your guys thoughts on that situation.
What surprises me why Woody wants to do it, is that you know its going to be cold. Even in a dry suit. And Woody doesn't like cold.
Most of the people currently diving there wear wetsuits, not drysuits. Whatever you wear tends to get ripped. I have more bioprene than Woody, so I usually just wear a 3 mm suit to make it easier to get through the CheeseGrater.
You guys are masters of posting some of the most anxiety inducing videos on the internets.
I've finally figured it out, cave diving is your folks crack cocoaine, use safely folks, absolutely the wildest hobby possible. Im extremely claustrophobic, you cave divers set the bar high 👍
You can’t ever smoke crack safely😏
Lol, you most certainly can, just ask Hunter Biden.
@@Man_fay_the_Bru is that a bet?
@@Next2Null more like a challenge
🔥🔥 great vide guys
I'm so happy!! I have suggested this video a couple times. It's mind-blowing!
Great video No thank you! I would, and have done dry caves like this
During the Thai cave rescue, social media and news organizations actually spread parts of that video to falsely demonstrate how narrow the passageways were inside cave, which caused a lot of confusion for some rescuers.
Look at that little entrance!!!
Now that’s a claustrophobic nightmare, 10x worst underwater
Hey guys! Great video!
you know yesterday i was actually searching in ur library if you guys have reacted to this video or not and today xD
Love the video. I’m real new at this cave diving . I’m gonna pass on the no-mount squeeze I’m way too big for that.
I'll take the training for cave diving to improve my skills, but I'll stay in open water, thank you.
Woody's hat game, as always, is on-point.
Let me know when you are going! We are going with you!!
To help with the grill, or to get in there and destroy your dry suit?
Studying for my final exams atm.. Thanks Gus and Wood for the great distraction from school. Never stop uploading guys, your videos impact people in many ways
'Dave not coming back ' is available now on TH-cam. Gives the full Dave Shaw story from the divers who were there. Awesome, you dudes need to react to it, would love to hear what you think
Two videos this week.Tervis the tortoise and I can’t wait to watch
If the Devil dragged me down to hell, by my hair, I could imagine the experience would be something very close to this.
Anxiety plus . . . only relieved (to a small degree) by seeing that line !
I was holding my breath praying they make it and I know they did and I still felt like they were going to get stuck lol balls of steel my hats off, woody if you do this please video it I would love to watch
It's about 90min round trip providing the muskrat didn't eat the line... 🤣
@3:25 "I'm a one-and-done guy"... Woody's not exactly selling himself in the sack...😉😆 But joke aside, I really think this is one of the difference makers in established/experienced cave divers who eventually die in a cave, and those who have a long life cave diving. The drive to test ourselves can cause us to make crucial errors in our decision making.
By comparison, Woody's like "Cool, this is sweet, now I'm ready to go." And I somehow suspect "Who wants ice cream?" is the first thing he says back at the car. 😄
The camera guy is Richard Dreher. He published a book about diving in overhead environment
That doesn't look fun to me. On the other hand, when I was a kid, I went through a naked mole rat phase where I'd dig 20' tunnels in dry season swamp muck just big enough to worm through and thought it was the greatest thing ever. Now I just imagine it collapsing and being suffocated and being dug up in 5000 years as a bog body for people to gawk at in a museum of stupid ancient people. So I guess I do get the point of doing things that look very unfun and are likely more dangerous than cave diving, but I can't quite get myself into that frame of mind this morning.