I like the different color hoses on this Kamoer pump. It’s sleek and yet smaller than the three head doser you have been using. 😁 thanks for the tutorial Sam
I’ve been using that old model for 6 years no problems, wanted to get that additional four head model but they don’t make it anymore!! I’ll take yours!!
That’s my doser :) I think seven years now :) and 7 channels, I even used the spare channels for automatic water changes, I punished this thing religiously and it’s still working today :) solid.
This looks like my future dosing pump, ty for the coverage. I really want to run Triton on the system I'm currently building, this looks awesome for that
I’m running the kamoer F4 which (at least here in the UK) is no longer available but it’s been fantastic. Worlds apart from my old jecod doser that caused no end of issues.
Looks like a nice pump and review. I don't know why manufacturers don't include a 1/4" (6mm) JG fitting as default though. Many people use this line anyway and heaps of colours are available. It's the little things like the connectors for power and temp that set these apart from cheaper units.
@@ParkersReef reefers are changing DOS pumps by adding a john Guest fittings in order to use rodi lines. I have done so as well. I cannot tell from here but I think possibly these same fittings can be used on this pump. I hope so as I want one for dosing Coral Colors.
The only one I know that does is the eco-tech versa, Which no one can get their hands on because it’s consistently out of stock because EcoTech doesn’t know how to make products right
hi sam, any update on your kamoer X4 dosing pump? im torn between red sea doser and kamoer X4 lol, i dont know what to buy, i do like the kamoer x4 because of the manual controlability which red sea doser doesnt have. thanks in advance
@@davelenjan19 ah yep I got you, local control that doesn't require the app? You can do it via the x4 pro kamoer, but it is pretty clunky. The red sea does have buttons for each pump head that you can use to manually prime or expel fluids from though?
Hey Sam, I need help with my x4 pro, after running over a year with no problem. Not I am not able to connect with my app.. how to reset the WiFi, it’s always on work mode NET 0, want to get it to work mode NET F1.
Hmm that's no good. I must admit, I am not aware with what net 0 or net f1 means, I would recommend reaching out to kamoer support. Email is: aquarium at kamoer dot com
Absolutely love mine. Running 2 of em with a total of 7 pumps active. They are quality. No air, I like the temp probe even though I didn’t care for it when I bought it. Hint for anyone setting up is to dip the end of tubing in some hot water before trying to push onto pump head. Very snug fit. Only thing I found little strange so far is setting time delay on app. Have to set what time of the hour to run rather than time difference between another pump. But either way still no probs once you sus that out
Watching this late - but very relevant now that dosing my 1st tank by hand is wearing thin, very thin.... This unit is way more money than I wanted to spent, but I'm working on the theory that the "You get what you pay for" adage may hold true on things like this... Certainly don't want something thats either going to (a) Not last - Bad or (b) Dump a whole bunch of stuff into my tank in an uncontrolled manner - Worse Thanks for the review - showing how this looks on the phone especially useful...
I'm just trying to set up my X-4 pro, but no matter what I the connection keeps failing. I'm connected to my 2.4 ghz wi-fi but in the 'connect home wi-fi' section it keeps coming up . Have you heard of a way to fix this, I cant find anything on it. Thankyou.
If your 2.4ghz and 5ghz WiFi have different names, I would try another device. I’ve heard people have different security settings which stop the connection from being made
Hi. Can you swap the heads around to have Blue, Red, Green and yellow in that order? I ask so I can run Alk, Calcium, Mag & other (as that is similar colour to the bottles)? Thanks
Hey Sam I just bought one of these pumps today can't seem to connect the app looked at reviews and everyone says that app is pathetic did you have any issues with connection turn on the stand what I'm doing wrong tried to buy the best quality pump I could get and can't get it working quite disappointed do you have any helpful tips for me thank you so much
Hey Daniel, the app is great - but people do have trouble connecting to it. Make sure you are not on the 5ghz network and if possible, switch it off while setting up. Also make sure you have all permissions set to allow in the settings of the app
@@ParkersReef thank you so much I'll give that a go was really worried as I spent quite a lot of money and can't get it working thank you so much for your help love your channel
Hi Sam, new subscriber here... How Is the kamoer x5s different to the x4 pro? I found the x5s about a 100$ cheaper so wondering if that's a better option.
Hey mate, sure thing! The x5 has an extra head, but uses the older style roller dosing heads rather than the gear drive heads. The difference is, it can't pump the same distance that the x4 pro can (and it doesn't have a display). If you don't need to move the supplements more than a couple meters, the x5 will work a treat!
Hi Sam, I was wondering about this Kamoer x4 is it still going strong for you ? Like I told you in the recent video I'm looking for a doser and I'm between this kamoer x4 and the red sea 4 head .I would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks Sam
yeah it is mate, working very well indeed. I have a lot of Kamoer products so I am accessing them all through the one app which is quite convenient. That being said, when I did purchase this, the Red Sea unit was not out yet - so it could have been a tougher decision.
Parker hopefully you get this and can answer. Can everything be programed from the display on the unit? I'm hearing the software for the fx is a nightmare. We don't get the x4 here so I have to order international.
Hey mate, hmm make sure it’s 2.4ghz WiFi signal and that’s about it. I have heard another person having trouble with it, but mine was fairly straight forward 🤷🏻♂️
@@johnwilson3527 I got mine connected after a fair bit of trial and error . You need to hotspot off your phone to get it onto your home network . Rename the hotspot to the same name as your home router WIFI name and password . That seems to "trick " it onto your home router make sure your home router is turned off when you first set it up with the hotspot. I had issue's with the password you may not ? I had to change it and reset all my home devices with a new password .
Hi Sam, i am using the same model x4pro , i have some question. Do you always have the error message ( firmware time error , time synce error ) it’s always pop up in my screen ( i using firmware 1.1.3 ) thank you
Looks a nice unit Sam but may be quite a while before you can give us a working review (we are all hanging with you). At almost $600 It's a pretty steep price for a doser so lets hope its value for money.
There is a lot of cheap crap out there, this isn't cheap but certainly seems to have the features to justify the price :) Hopefully not too long before I can use this for real :)
@@fishstix1988 Reliability mostly. My previous Kamoer never faulted for 7 years. The incremental updates kamoer has made over the years that made a good product even better was too hard to pass up on
haven't decided just yet. Haven't decided exactly what I'll be dosing just yet, once I work that out, I'll have a better idea of what size I have to work with then :)
I wouldn’t even know when these came out, was at Ken’s one day and thought bugger it, I’ll grab a doser. Then thought stuff it, I’ll get the slave unit too 😂😅
Yeah good question, I only know what I have 😅 Did find this in the internet though: The F4 PRO is the successor to the widly popular X4 which pioneered WiFi connectivity and control in aquarium dosing pumps. The F4 PRO WiFi Doser is packed with innovative features that make it easy to maintain ideal water parameters in your freshwater or saltwater aquarium
different pumps for different uses. I wouldn't use a Versa for dosing supplements, only for water changes, calcium reactors, kalk reactors, sulphur reactors etc. For dosing supplements, I do use this pump
I've got the kamoer Pro but it hasn't got that display panel on the front which I wanted. Hate the phone apps. I had to replace my router to a 'better' one and you can't choose channels. Its stuck on 5ghz. This thing only works on 2.4ghz! 😩
@@ParkersReef yeah this all singing all dancing router I've just got basically picks the strongest band at the time, which in our area is 5ghz! There's no override. So not very helpful. I think this dosing pump ive got can connect straight to my phone without WiFi. Just gotta figure it out. But the build quality of these things are pretty good aint they.
Yup Jebao will do things much much cheaper, I have one in my closet for a year as I never got around to using it, and finally dust it off to use... and the screen doesn't work. Quality so high they literally break over time without any use. That said, I went with a couple of the Kamoer mini pumps (forget the name), sure 4 of them are more expensive than this x4 unit, but I only need 2 channels of dosing not 4.
Great review Sam! Quick question, when you enter volume of your dosing container, does the unit send you a notification if your dosing container gets low???????? Thanks, Phil.
FIXED. Contacted the place I got it from. Newer model has an updated way to connect that supersedes the instructions. 1) when you try connect to wifi select the router option on the app. 2) on the doser clock the “network” option in the wifi menu then hold down the button on the “setting....” option that will appear. 3) select the next option on the app and it will connect. 4) if you have a slow connection then in the app reset the devices factory settings. Hope this helps anyone else. Cheers
not many Internet of things out there run off anything other than 2.4ghz :) The key is to set your wifi up to have separate channels for 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands
I like the different color hoses on this Kamoer pump. It’s sleek and yet smaller than the three head doser you have been using. 😁 thanks for the tutorial Sam
Thanks for watching!
I’ve been using that old model for 6 years no problems, wanted to get that additional four head model but they don’t make it anymore!! I’ll take yours!!
already sold I am afraid :)
Love the brand...the the best in there field.
Kamoer make some quality equipment for sure!
That’s my doser :) I think seven years now :) and 7 channels, I even used the spare channels for automatic water changes, I punished this thing religiously and it’s still working today :) solid.
the original Kamoer are bullet proof!
This looks like my future dosing pump, ty for the coverage.
I really want to run Triton on the system I'm currently building, this looks awesome for that
There is a lot of cheap crap out there, this isn't cheap but certainly seems to have the features to justify the price :)
Good information as usual can’t wait to see your new main tank finished keep the good up dates coming 🤓
Thanks Karl!
Hi Sam, looks a solid piece of kit and the dose line colours a nice touch look forward to needing one myself first coral going in this week
Exciting times mate!
That was the upgrade I did. I have been very happy with it. I still run the original kamoer from 2014 on a frag tank. Never changed a head!
wow that is mighty impressive!
I’m running the kamoer F4 which (at least here in the UK) is no longer available but it’s been fantastic. Worlds apart from my old jecod doser that caused no end of issues.
Kamoer is quality gear :)
Looks like a nice pump and review. I don't know why manufacturers don't include a 1/4" (6mm) JG fitting as default though. Many people use this line anyway and heaps of colours are available. It's the little things like the connectors for power and temp that set these apart from cheaper units.
couldn't agree more, that would be very handy!
@@ParkersReef reefers are changing DOS pumps by adding a john Guest fittings in order to use rodi lines. I have done so as well. I cannot tell from here but I think possibly these same fittings can be used on this pump. I hope so as I want one for dosing Coral Colors.
Yeah certainly makes life easier with JG lines and fittings!!
The only one I know that does is the eco-tech versa, Which no one can get their hands on because it’s consistently out of stock because EcoTech doesn’t know how to make products right
Merci pour cette vidéo PARKER !!! 👍👍👍
Merci!
hi sam, any update on your kamoer X4 dosing pump? im torn between red sea doser and kamoer X4 lol, i dont know what to buy, i do like the kamoer x4 because of the manual controlability which red sea doser doesnt have. thanks in advance
My Kamoer has been great! What do you mean by manual controllability that Red Sea doesn’t have?
@@davelenjan19 ah yep I got you, local control that doesn't require the app? You can do it via the x4 pro kamoer, but it is pretty clunky. The red sea does have buttons for each pump head that you can use to manually prime or expel fluids from though?
@@ParkersReef indeed red sea doser have individual buttom for priming, is your kamoer still loud tho when discharging liquid?
@@davelenjan19 it varies a little. Couple are near silent, but a couple of heads are audible
Hey Sam,
I need help with my x4 pro, after running over a year with no problem. Not I am not able to connect with my app.. how to reset the WiFi, it’s always on work mode NET 0, want to get it to work mode NET F1.
Hmm that's no good. I must admit, I am not aware with what net 0 or net f1 means, I would recommend reaching out to kamoer support. Email is: aquarium at kamoer dot com
Absolutely love mine. Running 2 of em with a total of 7 pumps active. They are quality. No air, I like the temp probe even though I didn’t care for it when I bought it. Hint for anyone setting up is to dip the end of tubing in some hot water before trying to push onto pump head. Very snug fit. Only thing I found little strange so far is setting time delay on app. Have to set what time of the hour to run rather than time difference between another pump. But either way still no probs once you sus that out
thanks for the feedback Tim, good to hear that after some time they are operating well for you :)
Would love to have seen captive screws on the dosing heads. Losing tiny screws in amongst the sump labyrinth would be a nightmare.
Yeah that’s a good call
Hi Sam, iv just gor the doser similar to your 3 pump. But I need stop valves and tubing. Any ideas where I can purchase them in Melbourne? thx
Deer park aquarium mate :)
Watching this late - but very relevant now that dosing my 1st tank by hand is wearing thin, very thin....
This unit is way more money than I wanted to spent, but I'm working on the theory that the "You get what you pay for" adage may hold true on things like this...
Certainly don't want something thats either going to (a) Not last - Bad or (b) Dump a whole bunch of stuff into my tank in an uncontrolled manner - Worse
Thanks for the review - showing how this looks on the phone especially useful...
Hope it helps!
Hi Sam, how does this compare to the redsea reef dose4?
Never used it so can’t really say. Kamoer been making dosing pumps a long time though :)
I'm just trying to set up my X-4 pro, but no matter what I the connection keeps failing. I'm connected to my 2.4 ghz wi-fi but in the 'connect home wi-fi' section it keeps coming up . Have you heard of a way to fix this, I cant find anything on it. Thankyou.
If your 2.4ghz and 5ghz WiFi have different names, I would try another device. I’ve heard people have different security settings which stop the connection from being made
Hi. Can you swap the heads around to have Blue, Red, Green and yellow in that order? I ask so I can run Alk, Calcium, Mag & other (as that is similar colour to the bottles)? Thanks
Yeah you can
Thank you. Probably a silly question, sorry
Hey Sam, Have you tested this one in continuous duty? and did this one heat up like the X1 Pro?
Sure have, been running continuously for over a year now on my kalkwasser
sorry - slightly wrong comment. It cannot run continuously, but you can dose large volumes with it and it does a very good job of that
@@ParkersReef ah okay. So the only one that does continuous is the x1 pro t? Better for a kalk reactor?
Pro-t, pro-t2, fx-stp and fx-stp2
@@ParkersReef thanks Sam
I can’t seem to find this pump in the states. Just the Kamoer F4 Pro WiFi doser.
Hmmm that’s interesting. It might be sold as a D&D in America?
Thanks, I’ll look into that!!!
I'm having trouble figuring out what the temperature sensor is used for? Do we need to use it?
No need to use at all, just helps cross compare your other temperature sensing devices
Hey Sam I just bought one of these pumps today can't seem to connect the app looked at reviews and everyone says that app is pathetic did you have any issues with connection turn on the stand what I'm doing wrong tried to buy the best quality pump I could get and can't get it working quite disappointed do you have any helpful tips for me thank you so much
Hey Daniel, the app is great - but people do have trouble connecting to it.
Make sure you are not on the 5ghz network and if possible, switch it off while setting up.
Also make sure you have all permissions set to allow in the settings of the app
@@ParkersReef thank you so much I'll give that a go was really worried as I spent quite a lot of money and can't get it working thank you so much for your help love your channel
Anytime mate!
Hi Sam, new subscriber here... How Is the kamoer x5s different to the x4 pro? I found the x5s about a 100$ cheaper so wondering if that's a better option.
Hey mate, sure thing! The x5 has an extra head, but uses the older style roller dosing heads rather than the gear drive heads. The difference is, it can't pump the same distance that the x4 pro can (and it doesn't have a display).
If you don't need to move the supplements more than a couple meters, the x5 will work a treat!
@@ParkersReef ah great... Much appreciated.
Hi Sam, I was wondering about this Kamoer x4 is it still going strong for you ? Like I told you in the recent video I'm looking for a doser and I'm between this kamoer x4 and the red sea 4 head .I would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks Sam
yeah it is mate, working very well indeed. I have a lot of Kamoer products so I am accessing them all through the one app which is quite convenient. That being said, when I did purchase this, the Red Sea unit was not out yet - so it could have been a tougher decision.
@@ParkersReef thanks mate !
Wow just in time I'm contemplating to go between ekoral ek4 and this one
Haven’t had any experience with the Ekoral so I couldn’t really say - but I am very impressed with this unit!
Do yourself a favour and go the X4 pro. I got rid of my EKoral to get these. Far superior
@@timdavidson131 second that the Ekoral is a piece of shit!
Parker hopefully you get this and can answer. Can everything be programed from the display on the unit? I'm hearing the software for the fx is a nightmare. We don't get the x4 here so I have to order international.
You can yes, I can’t say I have tried all the features from the display, but from what I can see - it is indeed possible
@@ParkersReef Awesome!! Thank you. Now the wait for international shipping shall start.
@@dude60415 hahaha oh no, hopefully now post-christmas it wont be too bad
@@ParkersReef It has arrived after its long journey.
Hi Sam any tips on connecting the doser to WIFI ? Mine wont go over 60% when scanning for a connection gets stuck at 60%
Hey mate, hmm make sure it’s 2.4ghz WiFi signal and that’s about it. I have heard another person having trouble with it, but mine was fairly straight forward 🤷🏻♂️
did u get it 2 connect? i bought 1 and can only get to 60% as well. its on a 2.4ghz router
Yeah mine is connected, no issues here?
@@johnwilson3527 I got mine connected after a fair bit of trial and error . You need to hotspot off your phone to get it onto your home network . Rename the hotspot to the same name as your home router WIFI name and password . That seems to "trick " it onto your home router make sure your home router is turned off when you first set it up with the hotspot. I had issue's with the password you may not ? I had to change it and reset all my home devices with a new password .
Bloody hell, that’s a fair stuff around!!
Hi Sam, i am using the same model x4pro , i have some question. Do you always have the error message ( firmware time error , time synce error ) it’s always pop up in my screen ( i using firmware 1.1.3 ) thank you
Hey Jutinun, seems I do.... Doesnt seem to affect anything though?
Parkers Reef still working fine but very annoy haha
Looks a nice unit Sam but may be quite a while before you can give us a working review (we are all hanging with you). At almost $600 It's a pretty steep price for a doser so lets hope its value for money.
There is a lot of cheap crap out there, this isn't cheap but certainly seems to have the features to justify the price :)
Hopefully not too long before I can use this for real :)
Hi can you link two of these x4 ' together to read as one on the app
Thanks
Can I ask why you would want to?
@@ParkersReef nutrient dosing
@ludwiglulu1288 yes but why not just have two units in the app? You still have full access to all eight channels?
@@ParkersReef ok so you can have multiple units in the app ? How many do they allow?
@ludwiglulu1288 I think as many as you like. I’ve got ten Kamoer devices connected
Hi, I just wanted to find out, are you able to control this dosing pump away from home using the app once its all connected?
yes I believe so, although I must admit I haven't tried to do so yet
Thanks for the reply.
Do you still have this dosing pump? What are your thoughts on it now?
Sure do, still love it :)
@@ParkersReef Did you find it to be loud when it doses?
Yeah it’s not quiet by any stretch of the imagination
@@ParkersReef what made you get that specific brand over any others?
@@fishstix1988 Reliability mostly. My previous Kamoer never faulted for 7 years. The incremental updates kamoer has made over the years that made a good product even better was too hard to pass up on
What are you using for dosing vessels with this?
haven't decided just yet. Haven't decided exactly what I'll be dosing just yet, once I work that out, I'll have a better idea of what size I have to work with then :)
Did you get the original ones from a group buy from MASA?
I didn’t no, but I bought them from K@J Aquatics who were big in masa
@@ParkersReef Cool, was just a blast from the past. Must of had one of the first units.
I wouldn’t even know when these came out, was at Ken’s one day and thought bugger it, I’ll grab a doser. Then thought stuff it, I’ll get the slave unit too 😂😅
What's the major difference between F4 pro and X4 pro ?? Which is best ??
Yeah good question, I only know what I have 😅
Did find this in the internet though:
The F4 PRO is the successor to the widly popular X4 which pioneered WiFi connectivity and control in aquarium dosing pumps. The F4 PRO WiFi Doser is packed with innovative features that make it easy to maintain ideal water parameters in your freshwater or saltwater aquarium
Are you looking at getting some form of overall controller at some point? If so, how would you see that affecting your decisions on equipment?
I’m not a huge fan of the controllers on the market so far. If they changed, I’ll be on board quicker than anybody :)
How has the X4 been, nearly a year later? And have you tried the F4 yet?
Still loving the x4, haven’t tried anything else as a result :)
Which would you chose between this or Ecotech Versa?
different pumps for different uses. I wouldn't use a Versa for dosing supplements, only for water changes, calcium reactors, kalk reactors, sulphur reactors etc.
For dosing supplements, I do use this pump
I've got the kamoer Pro but it hasn't got that display panel on the front which I wanted. Hate the phone apps. I had to replace my router to a 'better' one and you can't choose channels. Its stuck on 5ghz. This thing only works on 2.4ghz! 😩
Ah man, most of these “internet of things” need a 2.4ghz signal!!!
@@ParkersReef yeah this all singing all dancing router I've just got basically picks the strongest band at the time, which in our area is 5ghz! There's no override. So not very helpful. I think this dosing pump ive got can connect straight to my phone without WiFi. Just gotta figure it out. But the build quality of these things are pretty good aint they.
Yeah right! I’ve always had units that have a separate ssid for 2.4ghz and 5ghz so I can pick what I want for each device
Hi Sam - why didn’t you get the F4 which I understand is the successor to the X4?
the screen :)
Where did you get Kamoer x4 pro ?
Deer Park?
Yeah mate
Hi bud are these available in UK and how much are they bud?
These are the DD x4 pro £300
yes - appears to be the same unit
i'm still looking for a dosing pump for
my aquaforest +123
These are rippers!
i think i'm gonna give this one a go when i can get one
Yup Jebao will do things much much cheaper, I have one in my closet for a year as I never got around to using it, and finally dust it off to use... and the screen doesn't work. Quality so high they literally break over time without any use. That said, I went with a couple of the Kamoer mini pumps (forget the name), sure 4 of them are more expensive than this x4 unit, but I only need 2 channels of dosing not 4.
hehehehe yeah, Jebao aren't known for standing the test of time....
Great review Sam! Quick question, when you enter volume of your dosing container, does the unit send you a notification if your dosing container gets low???????? Thanks, Phil.
To add on the Reefkpr's question, does it stop or pause when the container is empty?
Great question, I will test this out today!
Anyone work out how to use on IOS? It’s not connecting
Yes I use iOS. Make sure your router is using different names for 2.4 and 5ghz signals and then connect to just 2.4
@@ParkersReef Yes thanks mate, i've done that with no luck. Ill have to swap it for another, might be faulty.
Try another iOS device. I’ve had people bring Kamoer back to the shop and it connects to my phone just fine 🤷🏻♂️
FIXED. Contacted the place I got it from. Newer model has an updated way to connect that supersedes the instructions.
1) when you try connect to wifi select the router option on the app.
2) on the doser clock the “network” option in the wifi menu then hold down the button on the “setting....” option that will appear.
3) select the next option on the app and it will connect.
4) if you have a slow connection then in the app reset the devices factory settings.
Hope this helps anyone else. Cheers
Great work!!
Could listen to Chris Hemsworth talk about reefing all day
hahaha my pleasure :P
Maybe if I had a much larger tank but I trust myself not the robots
everything makes mistakes, be it humans or robots :)
awful pump. Only connects on the 2.4 ghz, for those with certain wifi systems it simply doesnt work.
not many Internet of things out there run off anything other than 2.4ghz :) The key is to set your wifi up to have separate channels for 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands
First
indeed you were
It looks good Do you see any downsides of this pump at all but by doing this little test
The app has a bit to get your head around, but other than that - the unit seems brilliant!
only that it isn't cheap, but you only pay for it once :)