Continuous Dosing Gem! Kamoer X1 Pro T
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Continuous duty dosing pumps at a reasonable price used to be a fantasy for reef keepers, something to run their Calcium Reactors, Kalkwasser, Nitrate reactors or even for continuous water changes have been a dream.
Thankfully in 2021 we now have multiple options available at our disposal, from the ecotech versa, to the Kamoer FX STP-2, there are some quality pumps out there!
In this video we are going to check out a new player on the market, the tiny and very affordable Kamoer X1 Pro-T.
How does it stack up against the competition?
Wish my reviews took the actual product apart to show the internals. Awesome stuff mate 👌
glad you enjoyed it!
Wow now I can see your clown fish swimming in the middle of your dream reef I think that you reduced your flow now your clown fishes are utilising your massive tank. By the way today's video was also rocking dude.
I’ve actually turned the flow up :p
They get about the tank most days, top left corner is their home though!
I really enjoyed this video. The way you review the product was well thought out. I have a few questions: Did you ever try calibrating the pump, because it seemed like the head was spinning pretty fast for a mere 50ml / min flow rate? Did you ever try a shorter run to see if there was any difference in flow rate (72 feet is quite a run!)? Off topic: What camera are you using when you film?
Thanks! I have calibrated it since then but if anything, it made it go faster.
If needing flow rates up that high, I’d recommend the FX-STP pump.
I have been running it now for quite a while at a slow 3ml a minute (kalkwasser) and it doesn’t have the heat issues described in this video.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment :)
Oh and usually use my iPhone 11 Pro, but sometimes use my R6 canon :)
@@ParkersReef Just an FYI, I followed up on if we can get these pumps in the U.S. and one of my suppliers has them in stock. I'll be adding a few to my online store. :)
@@melevsreef nice one. Love to hear your thoughts on it once you get your hands on them. I think they are great pumps for continuous slow dosing
Fantastic review! Just what I was hoping to see!
Thanks for watching!
Great review Sam! Seems like a really great option from Kamoer!
Solid option For the money!
Mate I have had one on my calc reactor for 5 weeks it just rocks!!!!!
Yeah nice
Where do you guys find this pump? I been trying to get my hands on one for a couple weeks.
Dude, my hands are hurting from trying to fit the tubing. Any tips?
warm it up in warm water first :)
Can you please post a link to the 1/4” tube adapters? Also the solid tube sticking into the container with the couplers on it. I want to make a feeder into my source container and can’t find those parts. Thanks!
if you search eBay for "Tube Barb Connector 3/8" stem x 1/4" barb" you should find what you are looking for :)
Nice review Sam. When you produce the follow-up, would be good to do a quick comparison to the FX-STP, as the incumbent Kamoer continuous pump option. Is the extra $ for the FX a good investment when compared to this model ...
Yeah fair call. If money isn’t a concern, I’d still pick the fx-stp2 as it feels more purpose built. That being said, this pump has surprised me. See how it goes after a few months
What is minimal dose for continue duty?
0.1ml a minute
anyone got a link to buy that RO tubing to soft tubing barb fitting?
It’s an ecotech part that I’m using
@@ParkersReef looks like they don't sell that separately
yeah they may not (I only use versa with the john guest fitting, so every versa pump I've ever bought has two of these connectors spare. That being said, they are just a barb to stem john guest adaptor, you might be able to source from other locations
Do you know if you can daisy chain this to the x1 pro? they're both 12v
This one doesn’t have the extra output port, so would need to be last in the chain.
Also uses more power than standard x1 so make sure your power supply is up to it
Great video thanks mate ordered one
Be sure to let them know you saw it on Parker’s Reef! 😆
@@ParkersReef do you know a place for the adaptors to push 1/4
I used ecotech ones, it I think eBay has some. 1/4 barb to 1/4 stem
@@ParkersReef ordered a f4 pro also 😅
Ooooohh, U.K version looks totally different and is metal with a metal bracket to hold it too the wall,, looking forward to the next update on the beast build :)
Interesting!!!
I could be wrong , but if your taking about Uk DD version , then it’s not continuous.
@@Taity1972 the single dd pro doser with wifi does do continuous dosing mate, ive got one :) it’s not the original Bluetooth one with plastic case and standard non geared motor
@@bopeep7806 yeah I have 2 off them yellow head , smaller ,WiFi little metal back bracket , but can’t see how to get them to do continuous . Are you using KamoerRemote app?
@@bopeep7806
Found this off their website
P1 PRO Dosing Pump
The D-D P1 PRO is a single channel intelligent dosing pump with Wi-Fi control. This unit will allow the automated addition of liquid additives and elements in an accurate, controlled manor to your aquarium.
These pumps have been jointly developed between D-D and Kamoer, a company with a strong reputation for the manufacture of medical grade dosing equipment, ensuring a high quality product with excellent reliability.
Please note these pumps are not designed for continuous running or as water change units. For continuous or long running a stepper motor pump such as the Kamoer FXSTP is recommended.
Great review! If set to continuous mode, does it resume operation after a power off event. Thinking of hooking this up to an Apex for an ATO.
great question!!! Yes it does. Combine that a wifi controlled power board and you could do some pretty cool things with it :)
nice review! I really liked see the difference between the two.
Question I would like to start dosing kalk. mixed to max saturation not in ATO or reactor but just mixed up and in it's own jug.
1.do you think a continuous duty pump is needed for kalk?
2.looks like it could handle pulling up 3 meters of head height if I want to keep it mixed up in the basement?
3. wanted versa but never in stock would you go with this or the RS reef dose?
cheers!
I use this pump exactly for kalk - works an absolute treat in continuous mode :D
@@ParkersReef thanks man I think I might just go for it.
What a well done review! You mention and showed in the app being able to set it to 350ml/min but all the listings I see show it to have a max flow of 70ml/min . What is the actual flow rate?
Hey Karan, yes the listings seem to show a max (and sometimes a "min") of 70ml/m. This is wrong, the pump can do a max of 350ml a minute, however I find once calibrated it seems that around 300ml/m is about the max
Oh wow ! Thanks for clarifying that . Are there such hidden surprises in the fxstp 2-WiFi as well 😄.. considering it’s almost twice the price . I was choosing the fxstp2 over this because of the advertised 120ml flow rate against the 70ml advertised for this. Thank u for the reply :)
Another question about this doser, if you have it running in continuous dosing and then unplug the power, if you plug it back in will it go back to continuous duty? Thinking of hooking up to a kalk reactor but want to control it based on the pH of the tank.
Sure does
@@ParkersReef amazing. I will try this doser to peg the pH and use my hydros controller to turn it off if pH hits 8.1 and slowly bring pH up.
I purchased this stepper pump which seems to work well. It does make a clicking noise. Is this normal? I'm running it at 28ml/min and the noise is bearable inside the cabinet, but the faster the pump runs the louder the clicking noise. I tried lubing the tube. Any thoughts?
they do sometimes make a small click, I'd make sure the housing is down tight?
hi, brother. I need a single head dosing pump with extreme accuracy. so, i chose Reef factory dosing pump pro x1. my question is this pump is reliable ? if not then please suggest me one.
I've not tested it yet, so can't answer that in confidence. However I would expect that it would be
@@ParkersReef ok. Which doser you using currently ?
@@sukantamondal3110 I'm currently using a kamoer x4 for my supplements and a combination of x1 pro t and x1 pro t2 for calcium reactors, water changes and kalkwasser. The you say you need extreme accuracy, what exactly do you mean? Single doses of a fraction of a millileter? Or continuous dosing?
You should test it at 300 ml a minute continuously for 2 weeks and let us know how that works out, it would be good to know
I have it on my kalkwasser reactor now and it doesn't use that much speed! I'm sure it would be capable, but it would be pretty tough on the unit!
I have an issue this pump, every time when I open the APP the time is out of sync. It happens every time, anyone else have this problem?
yes I have the same issue, doesn't seem to affect anything though
Thanks for the video, what is the dimensions of your tank?
210x90x75 cm :)
Hey mate, big fan of your vids and look forward to them weekly
Just after what size those John guest fittings and tap you were using around the 12minute mark
After some to make a protein skimmer drainage line
Cheers mate
Hey mate, 1/4” barb to stem is what I used in these pumps :)
@@ParkersReef absolute legend
Hi Parker, great videos thank you :) What do you use right now for AWC? or what you are planing to use?
Not using anything at the moment, have all my litermeters sitting in a box, assessing kamoer and versra, curious on the new litermeter. If Versa's came back in stock again, i'd be keen on them :)
Wow, might be what I need since I still cant get my hands on a ECM Versa for my AWC system. It can push water! Do you have an idea when it might be available in the US? Thanks for doing a great review.
Definitely a contender!! No idea on US availability but surely must be very very soon. They are due here in australia in the next week
Really interested to see how this would hold up against the versa. The tube to be more specific.
Looks like with a smaller head it has to work harder (faster?) to pump the same volume of water.
Yeah for sure, good news is - you can replace this tubing yourself. So you can buy a meter or two of it and switch out every few months for a couple dollars.
@@ParkersReef awesome and no major risk of shortages like the versa replacement kit.
Exactly!
Good review Parker. I am looking to setup an auto water change system with a similar run to yours. I was hoping to do something like 6000ml a day but only run for a few hrs a day. Would you pick this over the Versa?
If looking to move that much in a short time, look at the Kamoer X2SR. Moved the water much quicker :)
@@ParkersReef The noise was a bit of a deal breaker on that one. I was thinking a versa running 40ml min for like 2.5hrs
Yeah that will work
@@ParkersReef so if were you versa or kamoer? :)
Both are great, both have a couple minor downsides. Pick your poison to suit your scenario :p
Hi mate, do you know by any chances what is the minimum ml/min that this pump can dose? I can dose roughly 3L of kalk per day to cover my evaporation, so about 2ml/min.
I can set it as low as 0.1ml a minute :)
@@ParkersReef awesome thank you!
Hi Sam, Have you got a link where we can buy those barb adaptors?
hey John, I actually used the ones that came with my Ecotech Versa, but I believe they are just this:
www.aquasafe.com.au/other/john-guest-fittings/drinks-dispenser-pure-water/imperial-size-fittings/stem-to-hose-reducer/john-guest-1-4-stem-x-1-4-barb-adaptor/
@@ParkersReef Thanks Buddy your #1
So if this is running my reactor and the power goes out will it automatically turn back and and continue to “dose”? Or do I have to click start again
sure does. These are actually really cool pumps to use as an ATO as they are 12v and remember the setting. So you can set it to say continuous dosing of 50ml a minute and when the ATO powers it up, it just kicks into gear
@@ParkersReef good!! I purchased 2 of the kcs pro 2 kamoer pumps and they don’t automatically turn back on so I’m going to have to return them, hopefully these will do good for a automatic water change system
@@truereefkeeping6022 Interesting! The KCS Pro 2 looks a lot like the FX-STP which I thought did resume on power returning?
Hi Sam Question would like your thoughts 🤔 kamoa x1 or eco tech versa 🤷🏻♂️for 3 lte water change per day 😀👍🏴
Either would work a treat. So perhaps whatever you can get your hands on?
The kamoer seems to get better tube life and has wifi, the versa has more abilities in the app and is super easy to setup. Pro's and cons!
1000 hours for tube replacement, so about every month and 10 days? I've never run a continuous duty pump is that normal to replace the tubing that often?
That is the default suggestion, but I wonder if it has an impact running at different speeds. Surely that is for 350ml a minute, not 50ml a minute?
@@ParkersReef Yeah that's what I was wondering, maybe the little press wheels are what ends up fatiguing the material and it doesn't matter if you press them against it 1 time per minute or 100 times... oh well.
@@Mike__B potentially, although not the impression I am given. You shouldn't have to replace the wheels at any time
@@ParkersReef Well one of these days I may ditch the 2 part/kalk and go calcium reactor, ... well if they ever made a system that was "affordable" for me. 🤣🤣
Hey Sam,
When you did the initial set up of the pump, did you ran into any connection issue?
I'm trying to set up 2 for water change (got 1 in hand and 1 waiting for Dave to get stock). Been trying to connect it for the last few days but no luck. All stuck at 60%. I've tried to find info online but very limited and everyone just like not sure how they connected. Any recommendation?
Thong
Hey Thong, Android or iOS? I find two main issues that cause 99% of problems.
First is people have both 5ghz and 2.4ghz networks named the same. Ensure they have different names.
Secondly, go to the app permissions in settings and ensure all options are enabled
I've tried both android and ios. Both stuck at 60%. All permission turn on. I turn off the 5ghz on the wifi gateway. My 2.4ghz and 5ghz have different name as well. I still have an Ethernet connect to 5ghz so not sure if it's affecting anything.
When you try to connect, did the blue light on the pump flashing rapidly or intermittently? Saw on the video looks like it's blink rapidly.
I couldn’t remember sorry. The 60% issue is known to be a permissions issue though
How did you go mate?
@@ParkersReef hey Sam, I went to Kamoer for support. Just got reply today. They said that the home wifi does not comparable with the firmware of the pump so they suggested me to use a phone hotspot to connect it and it works. Problem is no way for me to connect the pump to home wifi now so any time I want to change dosing volume I have to have 2 phones to share hotspot. Not so much issue since it's more set and forget for the pump but it's a bit of a bumper but if the pump running well should be fine for me.
Cheers,
Thong
Great review Sam. So which one do you like more this pump or your Versa for calcium reactor work?
Probably the FXSTP 2 is my pick (also the most expensive)
This and Versa are evenly matched. Versa app has more features, this has the ability to self replace hoses and keeps a usage life of the hose in the app
@@ParkersReef How was the heat compared btwn this and the Versa since you mentioned this was running a bit warm on continuous duty.
Hey Sam! Great review! Could you please do a long term review on the Kamoer X4 pro? I’m on the market for a dosing pump to replace my little shitty ekoral doser, which failed and nearly crashed my tank, but i just cant make up my mind between the kamoer and ghl dosers
Yeah I could do so, although in fairness my unit has only been running g about three months. I highly rate it though, despite the software being a bit quirky
Hi, do you know if this can be set to minimum of 1ML per
minute continuously?
It certainly can yes
Can you make it dose hourly and change remotely? The silence on this one makes me want to get it - I dose a mix of kalk and All for Reef so I only have one doser and my one is a bit noisy at night for my liking.
Awesome reveiw - thanks Mr Parker
Yeah you can schedule it like a regular dosing pump, just pick “schedule” in the app :)
My pleasure, thanks for watching :)
@@ParkersReef thanks mate
Hey man, great video! Just wondering, were you at Deer Park Aquarium earlier? 😅 I saw a guy that looks like you but wasn't too sure!
That’s me mate!
@@ParkersReef Nice to meet you mate! I was the guy who asked you a bunch of questions about the gramma, firefish and pipefish and bought a helfrichi in the end 😅 Thanks for being so helpful mate, much appreciated!
No trouble at all, great to meet you and your partner too! Lovely fish, I’m slightly jealous ;)
@@ParkersReef yeah, that helfrichi is gorgeous! Hope my Royal gramma didn't beat him up! Just sub to your channel. Look forward to more review videos 😊
Pleasure meeting you, hope to see you instore again sometime soon :)
What is the least amount you can dose with this pump on continuous? .33ml per minute if I needed?
Just tested then. Yep, goes as low as 0.1ml a minute
@@ParkersReef Hey Sam!! Quesiton about the replacement heads for this doser. From what I understand is that you can buy the units with the plastic casing, however, is there a way to replace just the dosing tube inside the casing?
@@WB25Penn yeah just replace the tubing!
@@ParkersReef Thank you!!
Hi mate!
So all this while using this pump is there any issue? Reliable? Im still comparing with fx stp and this pump, should i be worried if i get this pump for calx reactor and kalkwasser?
still running this pump continuously on my kalkwasser reactor. Works a treat!
Hey man hows your pump doing? Good or bad? Do you recommend? Im about to purchase.
Working a treat, I have it on my kalk reactor now and very happy with it
@@ParkersReef looking to add on my reef octopus calcium reactor, well now using manifold that feeds the reactor quite good but sometimes i cant control the effluent and it gets stuck and often leads to alk swings. Well looks like can be good purchase.
@@UnderwaterDreamsUWD this would be perfect for you then :)
Dude where i can buy this pump? Seem Kamoer website is offline :S
I must admit, they don't appear available in other countries as yet? Perhaps try Kamoer facebook page to see if they can direct you to a seller?
@@ParkersReef shopped directly from them 🍕
Is it 350ml/min or 70ml/min max flow rate ?
Technically 350ml a minute, however I find once calibrated (depending on your use case), the max is closer to about 300ml a minute
The entry price on continuous duty has dropped a lot in the past year with this and versa. Before it was $600 plus for that sort of pump?
Yeah exactly!
Can this pump be controlled via the app remotely when your out and about like an apex product?
You bet, it’s WiFi not Bluetooth
This pump can be used for calcium reactor?
Thank you
Certainly can!
@@ParkersReef thank you Sam, i got the new one10 minutes ago
Hi Sam, do you think 1000 hours is a bit short lived for a continuous pump?
I do yes, my tubing is over 3500 hours in use and still looks new :)
@@ParkersReef wow good to know the tube is much more durable than expected. Do you know where to get those John guest fitting other than contacting ECM?
You can find them on eBay :)
Will tis replace the old FX STP from Kamoer?
I don’t think so, but who knows 😅
Where did you get the John guest to airline adapters?😊
Mine came from the ecotech Versa pack, but they are available on ebay
@@ParkersReef Can’t find them on eBay anywhere? Any idea on what they are called?
1/4 stem to 1/4 barb
I’m not seeing that anywhere in the states??
It’s brand new :)
Can this replace the litermiter? I cant seem to find a litermiter for sale in Oz. Looking to set up auto water change like urs
Litermeter was never for sale in Aus, only from overseas but they have been out of stock for months and months.
Yeah this looks like a suitable substitute for the litermeter, does everything you’d want it to :)
@@ParkersReef thanks mate! Its good to have a reef youtube channel thats local to me as LFS is to LRC (LocalReefChannel). Very relatable. Keep up the good work!
Many thanks :)
Did you say 1000 hrs to change the hose?
Correct (according to Kamoer)
Near 10 years I think on my original kamoer dower , never calibrated, still in same rubber , so slack
They are beasts!!!
So after running for some time, does it still reliable and get even hotter as I’m thinking to use it for CR or kalkwasser.
Yep still going strong on my kalkwasser reactor.
It either “settled in” or doesn’t generate remotely the same heat at slower speeds
@@ParkersReef ok thank you very much.. do u have any video on kalkwasser?
@@weixingloh5439 I haven't made a separate video on it, but I do cover it 4.5 mins in here:
th-cam.com/video/Co8wVWpOXzc/w-d-xo.html
@@ParkersReef so wats ur dosing of kalk like? Coz I need to top up 1litre of rodi daily so was thinking to dose kalk during the night time. The pump setup is by minutes so how much u dose per minute.. my whole tank is 520litre
@@weixingloh5439 I dose 2ml per minute 24/7
Morning, Sam. You going to be at deer park today?? Wanted to see you regarding the Kamoer auto water change system. I picked my one up last week.
Yes I am!
@@ParkersReef sweet. I Finnish work at 2:00 will see you straight after that. Looking forward to finally meeting the legend😎 and my inspiration in this hobby.
Catch you then mate!
So no mounting bracket like the Versa has?
No bracket, but it’s pretty easy to sit anywhere
Assuming you have somewhere to sit it. I've got pumps mounted up high. Could make a bracket for it easily enough but still annoying.
Yeah fair enough!
Little things can make a big difference. Sounds like a good pump for the price though and quite than the versa at higher levels?
Very comparable to the versa