I have it on Xbox series x and I am highly impressed. I have recently incorporated a keyboard and mouse to use injunction with my thrustmaster hotas 1 flight stick and thruster combo. The mouse definitely took the experience to the next level allowing a more smoother interaction with the in dash controls and switches. It feels like a new game again even though I am only 2 weeks into playing this game. I don’t want to spend pc amount of cash and am quite happy with the Xbox.
I play Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 on Xbox Series X I started with a keyboard and mouse and began to feel a more improved experience. Then I invested in flight joysticks and without a doubt my best purchase. I don't think it's bad to play on Xbox, you just need the components and have a more serious attitude within the game to make it more realistic, but that depends on each person. We will see what happens in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024.
Really enjoying flight sim on Xbox and even Xbox One thru XCloud. I'm just happy they made this available to us to play without spending lot of money on a pc. Its perfectly fine for someone who plays this game for relaxation and more on the casual side.
@@goldenstateaviation2861 Hardcore? I don't think you know what that means in flight simming where folks have full 737 cockpits built in their garages.
@fsx-legend4602 Those people arent hardcore. Theyre zealots! And there are maybe a couple hundred in the world willing to spend $100K for home flight sims like those. But whatever. Semantics. Dont get me wrong - more power to them, but 99% of flight sim people are flying rigs that cost less than $5k. Its pretty 'hardcore' to buy a high- end PC, $1000 monitor and HOTAS to play a *GAME.*
I'm a real life commercial pilot, and I think you can totally do some serious flying on the Xbox. I have a honeycomb yoke and throttle quadrant that works super well on my Xbox, and I enjoy flying everything from the C172 to the PMDG 737. I used to play on an older PC too, but I just found that is was more affordable to upgrade to a (then new) Xbox Series X vs buying a new PC that would cost thousands.
I have the Series X and bought it only for this game. Im going to learn this month I guess. Whats beautiful about this is as long as you never play on a P.C. you'll never know the difference friend
I have it on Xbox series X and using a Turtle Beach Velocity Flight and absolutely love it. Not even a thought about ever buying a $2000 plus computer. But there are definitely a few downfalls that you have mentioned. My biggest issue is no 3rd party free/paid add ons to be able to download
Exactly the same thing for me, I use the turtle beach velocity one but this Christmas I’m upgrading to a pc because I fell at the moment msfs are neglecting Xbox even tho it will get better after su10
@@SoupGuyy Yeah apparently once WSAM is available on Xbox that will open up the floodgates and the creator of Microsoft flight simulator said that he is aiming for about 95% of PC products to be available on Xbox.
I think it's important to say Flight Sim is still a toddler on Xbox it will improve alot in many ways over the next few years. Plus you got alot of keen pilots like myself he used to have the hole PC rig setup in my early 20s but now have kids running around so it's much more conveniant to use a Xbox that's tucked away. Comfort and never needing to upgrade the system for good perfomance is another huge plus.
If you just take money in consideration, the xbox is unbeatable and for me the best option. So I totally disagree with this video! True there are some things you missing out on and some features are totally awesome, but is it worth the extra money, or is that what you get on xbox enough for you?! So it totally depends on what each individual wants and not what you think!
Listening to truly and deeply understand what someone is trying to convey to us is almost always more valuable than simply listening to refute. I’m a former military flier and also have thousands of hours of experience flying the Beechcraft F33A Bonanza that I owned for 15+ years. I also am currently flying MSFS 2020 on an Xbox Series S. As you correctly pointed out, the Xbox platform provides an incredible amount of value and fun for the dollar. I found Squirrel’s observations to be spot-on. For me, the hardware and aircraft choices have become far too limiting in my sim flying. So, I’m currently in the process of specing and buying a high-end gaming PC so that my sim flying can progress beyond the limitations he outlined. If you’re happy, stick with your Xbox. However, criticizing the insights he shared is not exactly the best way to learn nor to show appreciation for the creator’s attempts to add insights and value to the flight sim community. Well done, Squirrel! 🐿️ Thank you, sir! 🙏
@@luvs2flyndive You probably know this, but there's oodles of aftermarket aircraft, and addons to bring more realism. Like FS traffic. I even have an addon that puts birds in the world.
The point is, at XBOX you wont have a SIMULATOR experience, GNS530 what that fuck is this bro? and only at Deluxe Premium shit edition? You ill pay more for something the works like 25% from real life? I'm not talking about PMDG, FENIX, nothing like that, but A320 Asobo default, its not 100%, 747? Joke? Got it bro?
Facts. I had a high end pc. Goflight hardware, radio stack , efis, Mcp, etc. 3 panels for visuals. 2 lower panels for my glass cockpit. On my X box I have rudders and throttles quadrants. I uses a Bluetooth mouse to handle all the instrument switches for start. I have no problem never going back to PC. Some of the more expensive throttle and Yoke combinations will have a lot of programmable buttons on their hardware. I do agree about vatsim. I was on it year back and it was intense. As far as upgrade goes. I'd buy the next version of the XboxX vs a 1$-2K upgrade for a video card and another $500+ for a cpu.
@@TChalla007 I have never seen anyone running their $5,000 gaming PC on an 86" 4K UHD that supports vrr @ 120hz from the comfort of their leather recliner. That's how I roll and that silent little black box just cranks out the horsepower for an excellent FS 2020 experience. Now with the new SDK's becoming available we can look forward to a very big jump again in performance and freeing up more memory at the same time! I can't wait!
I had a high end pc. Goflight hardware, radio stack , efis, Mcp, etc. 3 panels for visuals. 2 lower panels for my glass cockpit. On my X box I have rudders and throttles quadrants. I uses a Bluetooth mouse to handle all the instrument switches for start. I have no problem never going back to PC. Some of the more expensive throttle and Yoke combinations will have a lot of programmable buttons on their hardware. I do agree about vatsim. I was on it year back and it was intense. As far as upgrade goes. I'd buy the next version of the XboxX vs a 1$-2K upgrade for a video card and another $500+ for a cpu.
So, many of your comments are valid if your intent is to be a really serious simulator user with an intent for it to help with real world flying. However, not everyone is in that place. The situation with hardware controllers is getting much better on Xbox with Honeycomb, Turtlebeach, and Thrustmaster all having yokes, pedals, and throttle quadrants available. For me personally, I wanted to build a specific PC for MSFS2020 but couldn’t get the hardware when the 3xxx series cards launched and my current PC wont run the s/w. With the global financial situation (here in the UK we are currently experiencing $10 per gallon in car fuel, utility costs are horrendous) and specifically for me, I cannot justify the costs for a new PC capable of running MSFS at the quality the Xbox can produce. So for me the choice is £450 Xbox series X and actually get to sim or just don’t sim. Costs are still IMO ridiculous for PC parts and this makes it prohibitive. While I agree that the VATSIM, and PC specific add-ons are nice to have, I also know that developers are seeing that the Xbox market is also important so they are working hard to make the aircraft work on Xbox as well. Just recently some of the aircraft we have seen on Xbox are more or less the same as the PC aversion. Some things will likely never happen (persistence for example, where plane states are saved between flights to simulate real life) but it is still heading in the right direction.
@@hochmaniac Utter nonsense. SOC is vastly superior to traditional PC architecture of non integrated components. Xbox Series X is absolutely as capable as a higher end gaming PC. I run FS 2020 on an 86" 4K 120Hz vrr TV and it's absolutely fantastic. Easily as capable as a PC costing almost ten times as much as my console.
Add a wireless keyboard/mouse to the Xbox and the experience is very similar. I have it both on Xbox S and High end gaming PC. The cost difference of the hardware is almost 10 times more for PC if you gonna go all in on everything.
I would love to have this on pc, but I can't afford a new pc to handle this. My current laptop refuses to keep up. I love the idea of vatsim, but again I don't have a viable pc. For now I'm thankful my xbox one allows me to try it.
While I agree that for hard-core simmers a PC is definitely the go to route you cannot deny that MSFS2020 Xbox is improving especially with the recent announcement that WASM indeed despite it being pushed to SU11 is coming, as they said it works well it is just slightly clunky. A huge advantage for the Xbox S/X is price and convenience, not everyone is as fortunate as you to be able to afford a PC or even save up for it, we are all different and we all have different financial situations, there is many people who say "Just buy a PC" as if it was that simple to fork up the money for it. The Xbox delivers an okay experience for a good price and developers know that that is an attractive deal to those who are casual or in a not so great financial situation. At the end of the day if you put enough effort and have enough passion towards flight-simming it should not matter, you will buy what you are happy with. There is no point in buying an expensive machine if you aren't going to be happy with it.
One of the most frustrating aspects of playing FS on my Xbox Series X is the frequent crashing. If I had the financial means, I would eagerly upgrade to a PC to hopefully experience a smoother gaming experience.
I thought it was just me. I go weeks or even months without using it because of the constant crashing. Worse is your paying as much as 30$ for addons and they have a shit ton of bugs. Plus there's no replay available and even some of the aircrafts that come with the deluxe dont ever work. like the citation longitude
@@blastofo Yeah...THIS. Would absolutely love to fly this with a VR headset. Maybe one of these days I'll drop $$$ on a jacked up PC (Everything I have is Mac...oh and a very old and SLOOOOW 2009 PC laptop ) XBox X is fine for now...I know I'm missing out on a ton of additional features.
I am 30+ years simmer on PC. Always looking for one day i can fly FS on console, rather than $3000+ PC. Thanks MS, Xbox S is now my addiction of flying on a couch. I still fly on PC for study level IFR
@@DutchManticore For a lot of people, their big screen TV is too far away from their PC. Mine is pretty close, but that still means running a long HDMI cable across the floor. Would need an hdmi switch box, would need to get wireless keyboard and mouse, and would have to adjust resolution and graphics settings every time I switch between the two. Way too much hassle.
@@blastofo If you want to game on a big screen often, then station it next to your TV. There is zero limit in this so I dont understand that youre saying its somehow mandatory to leave your pc away from your tv and run cables through your house. Not to mention you can use something like Steam link to stream to your Tv wirelessly. And hdmi switchbox?! PCs plug in directly to your HDMI / DP ports on your tv?! And changing game settings? You can do this no problem with your controller, you dont have to fetch keyboard and mouse in order to do this?! And how often do you change them anyway? Pcs are exactly plug and play like consoles are. I am getting the suspicion you dont really have a lot of experience with PCs since you are mostly making things up
I am using it on the Xbox Series X with TB Velocity One Flightstick, Yoke and Rudder pedals. I am really impressed with it and runs better than X-plane 12 on my PC. VASIM would be nice but I wouldn't dismiss the Xbox.
I swapped from PC to Xbox actually. I honestly feel little to no difference in my experience- honestly it might even be better to me. The only thing I truly miss is the lack of headtracking. That’s it. All of my marketplace addons will swap over to 2024 when it comes out, so I’m not worried about the support of all my 3rd party addons I had on PC. I can come home from work, boot up my xbox and be flying ASAP with no problems. It’s accessible and lovely. I recommend plugging a M+K into your xbox, it’s so much better with it and nearly indistinguishable from the PC experience.
assuming moneys not an object to you, well in todays day and age it is. I am not going to spend upwards of $2,500 bucks to have the same experience that an x box duplicates just fine for me at this time. I have been down the flight sim rabbit hole for many years. What I have learned is that after about 2 1/2 years the GPUs on PCs need to be replaced along with other components which sometimes leads to a whole new PC. So if you do not mine shelling out 2-3 K inflation not included, good for you keep giving them your cheddar.
I have had awesome PCs in the past all setup and configured for MFS, BUT, I hated wrestling with drivers and display settings to remove judder, anti-aliasing and graphic quality, and cooling, what I love with the Xbox X, I just power on and play. I use a mouse, a joystick & throttle and my Xbox controller, I enjoy it loads! I am not fiddling with graphic settings. They both have advantages, the PC assuming you have the budget and can keep your PC at a premium level then it’s all good, my PCs were well in excess of £4k to run it and I blew hundreds on add ons, my Xbox is a few hundred £, and I seem to enjoy it as much, recently downloaded the Chinook add on, very impressive! ❤
The fact that the A2A Comanche and PMDG 737 both work flawlessly on Xbox shows that this video was wrong about software limitations. Bottom line is that Xbox offers 90% of what PC does for a fraction of the price. And for having flown on PC for years, I’m sick of the constant updates/tinkering required. You always end up spending more time debugging the damn thing than flying. And it WILL be an endless money pit and constant frustration. Yes Xbox has its limitations but since I’ve given up on PC for Xbox I’ve never had more fun flying. I would never go back to PC.
I totally disagree there are 2 types of users, console and PC gamers. Some of us can’t afford a $2000 gaming rig that we have to constantly upgrade not to mention fix all the software and hardware bugs and PC game card graphic errors you get once a week due to graphic overloading. You can buy a used Xbox for $300 get a 1 T drive for $99 more then buy the game, you save so much money and headaches. If you are a pro flight simmer then yes a PC is for you if you willing to spend the cash.
@@Happyland_Motel_Gamer_Cat A hand controller is perfectly fine! Get MSFS but get a Series X console. Also you MUST Have a very high internet speed or it will be awful on either a 10,000 dollar PC or a 500 dollar console.
I have to disagree with you on this video I play on an Xbox series s and I love the graphics and the ray tracing and the look of the planes and you are way off on your video as any of eletist would say. In fact Microsoft flight simulator is one of my favorite games on the Xbox series s ...do for you to say don't fly on Xbox you video makes no sense.
I have played pc, and series x versions ,big adventage of series x is quick resume , including turning on konsol ,start playing game is 8 seconds, we all know how long is to start on pc this game , i have good pc , but most of time , for just fast trip , I prefer series x version
As someone who plays the Xbox version, I feel like everything is left out. Like I can’t get other free planes that PC users have, and if I want a plane I have to pay about 70 DOLLARS just for a 737. And I don’t even want to TRY running MSFS on my windows 8. If you have a computer, get MSFS on there.
Hey mates, I found the problem, why my Series X crashes on 3rd party addon airports and city scenery! I think it is the ground texture - these addons use a ground texture, when Bing is enabled, the Series X gets the streaming info from Bing from the ground plus the extra info from the 3rd party addon. Turn off Bing before starting from a 3rd party addon in the main menu, after starting from the airport, turn on Bing from pause menu…
@@hochmaniac Flight sim is definitely cheaper on a Xbox X at 550 USD vs 650 for a decent GPU alone on a PC. I'm on the fence when it comes to upgrading my RTX 2060 to RTX 3070 (650 USD) or just call it a day an upgrade the S to an X and not have to worry about upgrading, GPU (600), RAM (200) , CPU (500) and maybe also PSU (150) if the rumors about the RTX 40XX series is true (draws an insane amount of power.)
Should really change the title. To say dont fly on the xbox is a bit clickbaity the x series can be got for €350 used, Its a great starting point for someone new to flight simulator and before they build/buy a PC and the x5 time the price of a new series x.
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I fly on Xbox series X it's fabulous. PC is not all the world!
Then don’t play it. Other people enjoy it because there is always something to do while flying long haul, you are never sitting and looking out the window for hours on end, you are monitoring your aircraft and surroundings, you monitor fuel, autopilot, the route, traffic, etc. it’s not boring because you are always occupied with something.
quite impressed about the XBOX series X performance on FSX, I tried it on my 1600 € Laptop (Acer Nitro V 17 (I know it's a laptop, not really ideal for this game), but it struggled, mostly because I only had no full SSD in it, just a hybrid drive, you need one to avoid the micro stutters cause by loading data while flying
Strange it has no SSD , my MSI has a 512GB SSD (it's small for a game like this) . But it cost me 1100€ and it has 3050ti in it. I hope it plays Flightsim, my previous laptop did well with a 1660ti and Flightsim. I need the lighter cards because I can't use to much power in my truck or my batteries are empty to quickly 🙈 . Learning to fly is hard 😂
The xbox series x is awesome so smooth.. no lag at all.. I see Intel i9 with gefore rtx 3090 lagging.. doesn't matter if you don't get a few planes.. more than happy with my xbox series x £450 with flight simulator
The only reason most of the planes for Xbox are paid is because they give you a crap ton if you buy it with game pass for free. like 50 something planes is what I got for free with game pass
I really haven't had many issues at all on Xbox Series X. Except ONE aggravating issue. I purchased this back in April 2022...it was beautiful, smooth. I think World Update 9(?) was released just days after I bought it and that was a compete mess, totally deflating since I JUST bought this! Quite a few CTDs, freezing up. HOWEVER updates since that mess, no major issues. The 40th anniversary update..eh..few planes didn't work whatsoever, A310 was one of them...and a real bummer. (NO control over throttle), DC-3 was also unusable. Everything else was fine though. That all seemed to be fixed an update later. Since then, it's been relatively ok. Yeah, I get an occational CTD from time to time out of nowhere, and it stinks, I'd say 97--98% of the time - for me, this is working flawlessly on my Series X.
I had purchased and installed the full system it took 4 days to get it all downloaded and what gets me is how glitchy it still is and the lag response you'll hit the buttons and if the lag is too great it won't even notice you touched your buttons so you'll fail your training a whole lot cuz it can't keep up in real time at all
Based on alot of these comments people like the xbox experience me personally have had nothing but problems with the PC version and alot of headaches with it so my next time I buy it'll be on xbox. Thank you sorry to the guy who made this video
I think the only disadvantage we have on Xbox is lack of atc because I think we can all agree that it ain’t that good as vatsim because other than that more pc aircraft are coming to the sim I hope in the msfs 2024 they improve atx
For a fraction of the price u get fs2020 on xbox in 4k settings. I started playing FS long ago and played fsx p3d a lot. I own most saitek hardware and trackir on pc, played on vatsim and pilotedge. But playing it in 4k on xbox just for fun is great and tecommended if u dont have the time to sink dozens of hours a week on the sim.
I play in Xbox Series S, and its very fun to play it, its like everything you want to have, the same gane, Even MSFS 2024 is gonna be on Xbox, thats the best game ever
I am so pleased to see this. I have endeavoured for many years to have people understand that this is a simulator, not a game. Rather I see it as a simulator with a symbiotic game element. Unfortunately Microsoft market it as a game (for business reasons) and Asobo uses a game engine (which is necessary for our enjoyment and the mechanics of the simulation), however too many people encourage and reinforce the perception that it's a game, and I argue that unless we simmers quit this attitude then we are more likely to get more of a game than a flight simulation (in future versions as well). The object of a flight simulation should be "flight replication", not 'playing' a game, otherwise if gaming was the focus then there are plenty of games people can spend their time and money on. Since beginning flight simming in 1973 I have invested AU$75,000 in the genre (software, hardware etcetera) no-one spends that kind of money on a game. I take flight simulation seriously, and Microsoft needs to change their marketing strategies just a little bit, and push the reality aspect of simulation - and tone down the 'game' aspect. I don't believe they will lose financially if they have a smart writer of blurbs and 'package' information. XBox for gamers and PC for flight replicators. Microsoft and Asobo need to run both but there should be a clear demarcation in their minds and the minds of people who use the product(s).
A flight stick and a wireless keyboard/mouse and the experience is almost the same - unless you have a very high end GPU. Xbox has its limitation, but price/performance the Xbox X is a clear winner. The PC graphics card alone will be double the price of the X. If you can afford it, PC is better - but at a high price.
I have been seeing a lot of comments about the game crashing a lot on XBox series X, can anyone give me an update on this is 2024? Have these bugs been figured out? Thanks!
Don't agree with the title! I've got a PC and Xbox. I use both. Do not take any notice guys. Xbox is a superb platform. I think the Xbox X is equivalent to a RTX 3060 which i had in my PC, costing 2K. I've upgraded. Had superb fun and time on the Xbox and completely adequate for anyone starting off on this excellent flight sim. Superb for a console to deliver such fantastic graphics on a flight sim.
Interesting and I agree that Xbox is limited, although it is fun if you wanna just have a casual flight after a stressful day, set autopilot and watch then drop to sleep. But I am more of what you're promoting, I do this with SIM racing games like F1, although I don't have a steering wheel yet due to placement of item in the room, I have the settings as realistic as possible to give that real life vibe of what it's like to be as a real life F1 racecar driver, I want to do the same with Flight Sim, a great experience, great fun and relaxing too. But of course, if you're like me and wanna chill then stick on Series X, nothing wrong with that. Both sides have their pros to this, just depends on the persons perspective.
I think you are totally missing the budget differences and not everyone needing things to be the best. For 230€ you can buy an Xboxseries S and it looks really good. There is something like a good price experience ratio that you ignore. So people with a low budget, who do not have a 4K screen and might be a bit older(harder to see the difference between 4K and Full HD) the xbox series S experience + game + controller(a HOTAS One) is a 400€ in total dream to experience. Compare that to 'any' Flight Simulator in 2018 on the best PC possible and best controls and those in 2018 would gladly switch with the budget player right now. So if you have the money and you want the best version possible, sure, you go all out on your PC. But you are making the differences sound way bigger than they are and totally downplaying the price differences for budget limited people.
I’m a student too and I bought the honeycomb alpha and bravo yoke and throttle quadrant in order to practice at home. I also bought a Xbox series S so I’ll be trying it these weeks. If you want me to do a review write me and we can share experiences with this simulator.
I first got into Flight Sim on the Xbox Series S. Was hooked from the word go. Then moved to Series X. And you are right. Absolutely a gateway drug. I currently do not have a PC to run Flight Sim on, but am saving money to buy a good gaming PC that can handle Flight Sim. If you don’t have a PC to run it, the Xbox will still scratch the itch. But, of you have a PC, that’s the way to go.
Who the hell is this video made for? If you're THAT into flight sims to where it's your #1 hobby (lame), then sure, a decked out PC is ideal. But if it's just a side interest then why isn't Xbox okay? Of course it is. Hardcore enthusiasts of any type of video game are so annoying. And yes, it's a flight sim VIDEO GAME. I know flight sim people get their panties in a bunch when you call it a video game but of course that's what it is.
Not everyone can shell out hundreds, if not a couple of grand $$$ towards a PC. So playing on an Xbox (Series X for me, btw but others may have the Series S) usually will suffice. I have a great collection of aircraft, and it's pretty common knowledge that PC games always look better because of the ability to upgrade components, graphic cards, xtra content, etc, I like many people are content enough with an Xbox. Would I like to have the fictional MIG 31 FireFox on MFS? Of course, but like I said, not everyone will invest in a gaming PC. However, if there is one game I DO miss on PC, it's Star Trek Bridge Commander (With all the mods you can add).
My series s is pretty good, it overheats at times but I have a fan so I use that but one thing I hate is that my avionics go dark at random times during flight and it’s pretty annoying
Well some people can't afford the money to even play this on PC. I enjoy it on Xbox it's a great alternative for all who don't have a lot of money to spend but still like to fly around.
I have a Series S, why ? Price... But after 1 year with MSFS 2020 for XBOX what i can say? Disappointed First...Shutdowns, crashing everytime like 5 times in less then one hour... What more? Where is PMDG? A320 Fenix? CRJ? For the ones who wants a REAL Experience, GNS530/430 what a mess....and only if you pay for it... We dont want 1 airplane and 21312312637 liveries per month, we want decent and airplanes.. Please, we dont want Miliary Aircrafts anymore, Old schools ones, WE DONT WANT FLY A BIKE BOAT, OR NOTHING LIKE THAT. Please, what about something from another dimension like 737? Anything from Embraer? come on... Sorry i dont speak english.
I believe you’re absolutely right, but I purchased an Xbox series x exclusively to play MSFS and I’m very happy. I don’t deny my wishes for having a PC instead, but US$600 for an Xbox vs US$3500 for a pc, I think the Xbox is a winner.
I don’t agree at all I had so many hours of fun on my Xbox series x. Sure there is not a third party option for free liveries and some planes. But I had a lot of fun on Xbox with flight simulator.
Outdated and misleading info. I play msfs on both PC and Xbox and with the same hotas. Both versions are great. Got almost 300 flight hours on Xbox only. Never to forget, you can find some glitches only on the PC version and others only on the Xbox version. When I see extreme opinnions regarding how one version is so much better than the other and to avoid one of the versions, I just don't believe this person tried both. Just saying
I have xbox series x and pc but I have x plane 11 and had a lot of trouble with my extra controllers not working properly which I have had it checked out my pc requirements are over the top for the program and supposed to work great but they don't because there is a problem in the programing of x plane 11 that something went wrong and no one can tell me why it worked great at first for about 2 years maybe but all of a sudden it stopped working I would drop out of auto pilot just out of the blue and my landing gear stopped working just a variety of things quit working right. Had alot of fun when it worked but now I have no flight simulator and I'm getting withdrawal symptoms I think thas why I was wondering about the xbox version for 120 bucks and go with that one
I have never played tried Microsoft flight simulator and it made me curious if it had some type of a training mode or instructional mode. What I mean by that is I am currently going through my Private Pilot license courses and once I'm done with that I'll be on to instrument. It would sure be nice to have a way to practice or even learn more instrument approaches or things like that on bad weather days or days that I can actually go out and fly and I was curious if a program like this actually has that.
You missed a very big drawback of the xbox over pc. VR headset capability. If you want full immersion, VR is the way to go. Xbox doesn’t and so far as we know will not support VR. It’s what makes me wish i could afford a good spec PC most.
Well,all the airlines, and aircrafts that come in msfs2020 for xbox serie s, are horrible to fly,the flight plan awful. The B747,A320neo, A300,all are bullshit, the autopilot is a shit,the AL pilot don't fallow the route. We can make a report to MSFS ?
£2000 for pc or £250 on series S? Easy choice for me I obviously went for the S as couldn’t get the X and was blown away how amazing it looked and performed solidly. However since the last update, it he developers have dropped a MASSIVE bollock and have completely ruined the visuals. Huge thread on Msfs official forum. An unacceptable fix time to add insult to injury. If you’re thinking about buying a console right now for Xbox. Don’t!
Iam currently only able to do short flights simply due to the fact whenever I try to do a long distance flight and when I save the flight and reload the saved flight the tool bar keeps disappearing making it impossible to talk to air traffic control or anything else and unable to finish the flight.
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I've been flying using XBox Series S from day 1. I cant even begin to tell you how many countless hours of fun and relaxation I have had.
Hi there, how would you describe the FPS on Series S? Do you get any stutter? Thanks a lot :)
How hard is it to hit all the buttons and controls just using the Xbox controller?
@@DannyAckerman It's actually super easy.
How did you get it?
Thats great but he is talking about those who are more serious about the game.
Based on this video and comments, I will purchase XBox
Me who has a ps5… “why am I even here?”
@@GOCAPSDMVlmao brudda I got ps5 as well I’m bouta make that switch!
I have it on Xbox series x and I am highly impressed. I have recently incorporated a keyboard and mouse to use injunction with my thrustmaster hotas 1 flight stick and thruster combo. The mouse definitely took the experience to the next level allowing a more smoother interaction with the in dash controls and switches. It feels like a new game again even though I am only 2 weeks into playing this game. I don’t want to spend pc amount of cash and am quite happy with the Xbox.
Me too on series x absolutely love it I have bought a lot of addons and the premium deluxe!
I also on Xbox, I hate that the game crashes after every flight…I reinstalled and so on…
@@karlconrad8839 Hi how can crash if a lot addon ? why?
Do I need a Xbox gamepass to play?
Are u playing on a tv or a monitor with the Xbox series x cause I have that Xbox and I’m on a tv
I play Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 on Xbox Series X I started with a keyboard and mouse and began to feel a more improved experience. Then I invested in flight joysticks and without a doubt my best purchase. I don't think it's bad to play on Xbox, you just need the components and have a more serious attitude within the game to make it more realistic, but that depends on each person. We will see what happens in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024.
Really enjoying flight sim on Xbox and even Xbox One thru XCloud. I'm just happy they made this available to us to play without spending lot of money on a pc. Its perfectly fine for someone who plays this game for relaxation and more on the casual side.
Nailed it. It’s perfect for more casual/halfway between casual and hardcore.
@@goldenstateaviation2861 Hardcore? I don't think you know what that means in flight simming where folks have full 737 cockpits built in their garages.
@@fsx-legend4602 id call that over the top if I’m being 100% honest but yea I see your point
thanks
@fsx-legend4602 Those people arent hardcore. Theyre zealots! And there are maybe a couple hundred in the world willing to spend $100K for home flight sims like those. But whatever. Semantics. Dont get me wrong - more power to them, but 99% of flight sim people are flying rigs that cost less than $5k. Its pretty 'hardcore' to buy a high- end PC, $1000 monitor and HOTAS to play a *GAME.*
I'm a real life commercial pilot, and I think you can totally do some serious flying on the Xbox. I have a honeycomb yoke and throttle quadrant that works super well on my Xbox, and I enjoy flying everything from the C172 to the PMDG 737. I used to play on an older PC too, but I just found that is was more affordable to upgrade to a (then new) Xbox Series X vs buying a new PC that would cost thousands.
I have the Series X and bought it only for this game. Im going to learn this month I guess. Whats beautiful about this is as long as you never play on a P.C. you'll never know the difference friend
how is the game? i want to buy it on xbox too please tell me
I'am a PS5 user, but i want to buy Xbox because of FS24
I'm a real world pilot and use x box for serious use and practice VFR and IFR procedures - This video is I'll considered
Why would you spend $2000 on a high end computer when you can get basically the same thing on Xbox? This is dumb.
He is a dumb snob
I have it on Xbox series X and using a Turtle Beach Velocity Flight and absolutely love it. Not even a thought about ever buying a $2000 plus computer. But there are definitely a few downfalls that you have mentioned. My biggest issue is no 3rd party free/paid add ons to be able to download
Thanks for sharing your experience!
2000??🤣🤣2000 give 10 fps in 4k.. xbox around 7000$
Same. I hope they release SDK in xbox version
Exactly the same thing for me, I use the turtle beach velocity one but this Christmas I’m upgrading to a pc because I fell at the moment msfs are neglecting Xbox even tho it will get better after su10
@@SoupGuyy Yeah apparently once WSAM is available on Xbox that will open up the floodgates and the creator of Microsoft flight simulator said that he is aiming for about 95% of PC products to be available on Xbox.
I think it's important to say Flight Sim is still a toddler on Xbox it will improve alot in many ways over the next few years. Plus you got alot of keen pilots like myself he used to have the hole PC rig setup in my early 20s but now have kids running around so it's much more conveniant to use a Xbox that's tucked away. Comfort and never needing to upgrade the system for good perfomance is another huge plus.
Thanks for these comments
If you just take money in consideration, the xbox is unbeatable and for me the best option. So I totally disagree with this video! True there are some things you missing out on and some features are totally awesome, but is it worth the extra money, or is that what you get on xbox enough for you?! So it totally depends on what each individual wants and not what you think!
Listening to truly and deeply understand what someone is trying to convey to us is almost always more valuable than simply listening to refute. I’m a former military flier and also have thousands of hours of experience flying the Beechcraft F33A Bonanza that I owned for 15+ years. I also am currently flying MSFS 2020 on an Xbox Series S. As you correctly pointed out, the Xbox platform provides an incredible amount of value and fun for the dollar. I found Squirrel’s observations to be spot-on. For me, the hardware and aircraft choices have become far too limiting in my sim flying. So, I’m currently in the process of specing and buying a high-end gaming PC so that my sim flying can progress beyond the limitations he outlined. If you’re happy, stick with your Xbox. However, criticizing the insights he shared is not exactly the best way to learn nor to show appreciation for the creator’s attempts to add insights and value to the flight sim community.
Well done, Squirrel! 🐿️
Thank you, sir! 🙏
@@luvs2flyndive You probably know this, but there's oodles of aftermarket aircraft, and addons to bring more realism. Like FS traffic. I even have an addon that puts birds in the world.
I don’t know buddy,it runs excellent for me on my Xbox series X/S,your a dominant PC player so it’s not fair to put both in same place
The point is, at XBOX you wont have a SIMULATOR experience, GNS530 what that fuck is this bro? and only at Deluxe Premium shit edition? You ill pay more for something the works like 25% from real life?
I'm not talking about PMDG, FENIX, nothing like that, but A320 Asobo default, its not 100%, 747? Joke?
Got it bro?
@@hrsouls wtf does this even mean
Dude wrote in English but speaks another language 🤣
@@hrsoulspmdg is on Xbox? And upcoming ini 320 will be near the fenix in terms of quality
I went from pc to xbox series x with a 120fps 1ms response time 4k monitor and don't regret it one bit
Same!
Facts. I had a high end pc. Goflight hardware, radio stack , efis, Mcp, etc. 3 panels for visuals. 2 lower panels for my glass cockpit. On my X box I have rudders and throttles quadrants. I uses a Bluetooth mouse to handle all the instrument switches for start. I have no problem never going back to PC. Some of the more expensive throttle and Yoke combinations will have a lot of programmable buttons on their hardware. I do agree about vatsim. I was on it year back and it was intense. As far as upgrade goes. I'd buy the next version of the XboxX vs a 1$-2K upgrade for a video card and another $500+ for a cpu.
@@TChalla007 I have never seen anyone running their $5,000 gaming PC on an 86" 4K UHD that supports vrr @ 120hz from the comfort of their leather recliner. That's how I roll and that silent little black box just cranks out the horsepower for an excellent FS 2020 experience. Now with the new SDK's becoming available we can look forward to a very big jump again in performance and freeing up more memory at the same time! I can't wait!
@@theaustralianconundrum 💯💯🥂🥂 VRR??
@@TChalla007 Variable refresh rate.
I had a high end pc. Goflight hardware, radio stack , efis, Mcp, etc. 3 panels for visuals. 2 lower panels for my glass cockpit. On my X box I have rudders and throttles quadrants. I uses a Bluetooth mouse to handle all the instrument switches for start. I have no problem never going back to PC. Some of the more expensive throttle and Yoke combinations will have a lot of programmable buttons on their hardware. I do agree about vatsim. I was on it year back and it was intense. As far as upgrade goes. I'd buy the next version of the XboxX vs a 1$-2K upgrade for a video card and another $500+ for a cpu.
So, many of your comments are valid if your intent is to be a really serious simulator user with an intent for it to help with real world flying. However, not everyone is in that place.
The situation with hardware controllers is getting much better on Xbox with Honeycomb, Turtlebeach, and Thrustmaster all having yokes, pedals, and throttle quadrants available.
For me personally, I wanted to build a specific PC for MSFS2020 but couldn’t get the hardware when the 3xxx series cards launched and my current PC wont run the s/w. With the global financial situation (here in the UK we are currently experiencing $10 per gallon in car fuel, utility costs are horrendous) and specifically for me, I cannot justify the costs for a new PC capable of running MSFS at the quality the Xbox can produce. So for me the choice is £450 Xbox series X and actually get to sim or just don’t sim. Costs are still IMO ridiculous for PC parts and this makes it prohibitive.
While I agree that the VATSIM, and PC specific add-ons are nice to have, I also know that developers are seeing that the Xbox market is also important so they are working hard to make the aircraft work on Xbox as well. Just recently some of the aircraft we have seen on Xbox are more or less the same as the PC aversion. Some things will likely never happen (persistence for example, where plane states are saved between flights to simulate real life) but it is still heading in the right direction.
Thanks sharing your comments and for watching!
@@hochmaniac Utter nonsense. SOC is vastly superior to traditional PC architecture of non integrated components. Xbox Series X is absolutely as capable as a higher end gaming PC. I run FS 2020 on an 86" 4K 120Hz vrr TV and it's absolutely fantastic. Easily as capable as a PC costing almost ten times as much as my console.
Add a wireless keyboard/mouse to the Xbox and the experience is very similar. I have it both on Xbox S and High end gaming PC. The cost difference of the hardware is almost 10 times more for PC if you gonna go all in on everything.
@@korsveien Try Xbox Series X. That IS equal to a decent gaming PC costing thousands.
I would love to have this on pc, but I can't afford a new pc to handle this. My current laptop refuses to keep up. I love the idea of vatsim, but again I don't have a viable pc. For now I'm thankful my xbox one allows me to try it.
While I agree that for hard-core simmers a PC is definitely the go to route you cannot deny that MSFS2020 Xbox is improving especially with the recent announcement that WASM indeed despite it being pushed to SU11 is coming, as they said it works well it is just slightly clunky. A huge advantage for the Xbox S/X is price and convenience, not everyone is as fortunate as you to be able to afford a PC or even save up for it, we are all different and we all have different financial situations, there is many people who say "Just buy a PC" as if it was that simple to fork up the money for it. The Xbox delivers an okay experience for a good price and developers know that that is an attractive deal to those who are casual or in a not so great financial situation.
At the end of the day if you put enough effort and have enough passion towards flight-simming it should not matter, you will buy what you are happy with. There is no point in buying an expensive machine if you aren't going to be happy with it.
What is WASM? I keep hearing that mentioned. Thanks:)
One of the most frustrating aspects of playing FS on my Xbox Series X is the frequent crashing. If I had the financial means, I would eagerly upgrade to a PC to hopefully experience a smoother gaming experience.
Just learn to fly and you won’t crash.
I thought it was just me. I go weeks or even months without using it because of the constant crashing. Worse is your paying as much as 30$ for addons and they have a shit ton of bugs. Plus there's no replay available and even some of the aircrafts that come with the deluxe dont ever work. like the citation longitude
If you were able to buy a strong PC, and a Quest headset, you could experience it in VR. Once you do, you'll never want to go back.
@@blastofo Yeah...THIS. Would absolutely love to fly this with a VR headset. Maybe one of these days I'll drop $$$ on a jacked up PC (Everything I have is Mac...oh and a very old and SLOOOOW 2009 PC laptop ) XBox X is fine for now...I know I'm missing out on a ton of additional features.
@@tomschaffner9704he means the game crashing but I see your joke 😂
Easy, is not a game, is becoming the best flight simulator in history
I play on a Xbox series s and it is such good graphics. I absolutely don’t care about other planes I always am having fun.😊😊
Don't worry he is only pc snob
I am 30+ years simmer on PC. Always looking for one day i can fly FS on console, rather than $3000+ PC. Thanks MS, Xbox S is now my addiction of flying on a couch. I still fly on PC for study level IFR
Nothing beats kickin back on the couch, playing it on the big screen.
@@blastofoyou can do that with a pc no problem?!
@@DutchManticore For a lot of people, their big screen TV is too far away from their PC. Mine is pretty close, but that still means running a long HDMI cable across the floor. Would need an hdmi switch box, would need to get wireless keyboard and mouse, and would have to adjust resolution and graphics settings every time I switch between the two. Way too much hassle.
@@blastofo If you want to game on a big screen often, then station it next to your TV. There is zero limit in this so I dont understand that youre saying its somehow mandatory to leave your pc away from your tv and run cables through your house.
Not to mention you can use something like Steam link to stream to your Tv wirelessly.
And hdmi switchbox?! PCs plug in directly to your HDMI / DP ports on your tv?!
And changing game settings? You can do this no problem with your controller, you dont have to fetch keyboard and mouse in order to do this?! And how often do you change them anyway? Pcs are exactly plug and play like consoles are.
I am getting the suspicion you dont really have a lot of experience with PCs since you are mostly making things up
Yeah, just spend 5x the money for a gamer pc for msfs. To each his own.
I am using it on the Xbox Series X with TB Velocity One Flightstick, Yoke and Rudder pedals. I am really impressed with it and runs better than X-plane 12 on my PC. VASIM would be nice but I wouldn't dismiss the Xbox.
There's an arrogance in a classism world, most people are not that intelligent 💀
The multi-level gatekeeping of this game is astounding.
I swapped from PC to Xbox actually. I honestly feel little to no difference in my experience- honestly it might even be better to me. The only thing I truly miss is the lack of headtracking. That’s it. All of my marketplace addons will swap over to 2024 when it comes out, so I’m not worried about the support of all my 3rd party addons I had on PC. I can come home from work, boot up my xbox and be flying ASAP with no problems. It’s accessible and lovely. I recommend plugging a M+K into your xbox, it’s so much better with it and nearly indistinguishable from the PC experience.
I play on Xbox Series X and it’s amazing! Don’t just go spending 10K on a pc
10k? You don’t know what you’re talking about 😂
And you don’t know what a joke is🙄
@@peyters you never know with these xbox fanboys though
assuming moneys not an object to you, well in todays day and age it is. I am not going to spend upwards of $2,500 bucks to have the same experience that an x box duplicates just fine for me at this time. I have been down the flight sim rabbit hole for many years. What I have learned is that after about 2 1/2 years the GPUs on PCs need to be replaced along with other components which sometimes leads to a whole new PC. So if you do not mine shelling out 2-3 K inflation not included, good for you keep giving them your cheddar.
I have had awesome PCs in the past all setup and configured for MFS, BUT, I hated wrestling with drivers and display settings to remove judder, anti-aliasing and graphic quality, and cooling, what I love with the Xbox X, I just power on and play. I use a mouse, a joystick & throttle and my Xbox controller, I enjoy it loads! I am not fiddling with graphic settings. They both have advantages, the PC assuming you have the budget and can keep your PC at a premium level then it’s all good, my PCs were well in excess of £4k to run it and I blew hundreds on add ons, my Xbox is a few hundred £, and I seem to enjoy it as much, recently downloaded the Chinook add on, very impressive! ❤
The fact that the A2A Comanche and PMDG 737 both work flawlessly on Xbox shows that this video was wrong about software limitations. Bottom line is that Xbox offers 90% of what PC does for a fraction of the price. And for having flown on PC for years, I’m sick of the constant updates/tinkering required. You always end up spending more time debugging the damn thing than flying. And it WILL be an endless money pit and constant frustration. Yes Xbox has its limitations but since I’ve given up on PC for Xbox I’ve never had more fun flying. I would never go back to PC.
I totally disagree there are 2 types of users, console and PC gamers. Some of us can’t afford a $2000 gaming rig that we have to constantly upgrade not to mention fix all the software and hardware bugs and PC game card graphic errors you get once a week due to graphic overloading. You can buy a used Xbox for $300 get a 1 T drive for $99 more then buy the game, you save so much money and headaches. If you are a pro flight simmer then yes a PC is for you if you willing to spend the cash.
... thats why he said for serious flight simmers
I Love the MSFS with my XBox X. ❤️🎈👍😁
I'm on Xbox thinking about getting MSFS - Do you use just a controller?
@@Happyland_Motel_Gamer_Cat A hand controller is perfectly fine! Get MSFS but get a Series X console. Also you MUST Have a very high internet speed or it will be awful on either a 10,000 dollar PC or a 500 dollar console.
I do not believe this.. Allways CTDs and blac screens especially the airliners.. 16gb of RAM is NOT enough for this game..
@@halec3861 No Problems here 💪👍
I have to disagree with you on this video I play on an Xbox series s and I love the graphics and the ray tracing and the look of the planes and you are way off on your video as any of eletist would say. In fact Microsoft flight simulator is one of my favorite games on the Xbox series s ...do for you to say don't fly on Xbox you video makes no sense.
I have played pc, and series x versions ,big adventage of series x is quick resume , including turning on konsol ,start playing game is 8 seconds, we all know how long is to start on pc this game , i have good pc , but most of time , for just fast trip , I prefer series x version
We can't all afford a high end PC tbh 😒
As someone who plays the Xbox version, I feel like everything is left out. Like I can’t get other free planes that PC users have, and if I want a plane I have to pay about 70 DOLLARS just for a 737. And I don’t even want to TRY running MSFS on my windows 8. If you have a computer, get MSFS on there.
Hey mates, I found the problem, why my Series X crashes on 3rd party addon airports and city scenery! I think it is the ground texture - these addons use a ground texture, when Bing is enabled, the Series X gets the streaming info from Bing from the ground plus the extra info from the 3rd party addon. Turn off Bing before starting from a 3rd party addon in the main menu, after starting from the airport, turn on Bing from pause menu…
Do you have in mind how much Xbox costs and how much PC costs?
At least 5 times higher. You are not comparing the same things!!
Flight sim is not a cheap hobby, whether on a PC or XBox. But as I said in the video, if you're serious about flight sim, then you need to move to PC
@@hochmaniac Utter nonsense. SOC rules. There is NO super slow DDR4 RAM in a Series X console! LOL
@@hochmaniac no you don't
@@hochmaniac Flight sim is definitely cheaper on a Xbox X at 550 USD vs 650 for a decent GPU alone on a PC. I'm on the fence when it comes to upgrading my RTX 2060 to RTX 3070 (650 USD) or just call it a day an upgrade the S to an X and not have to worry about upgrading, GPU (600), RAM (200) , CPU (500) and maybe also PSU (150) if the rumors about the RTX 40XX series is true (draws an insane amount of power.)
@@hochmaniac you plan on being a real life polit? If not what's the point of being serious about the Sim???
Should really change the title. To say dont fly on the xbox is a bit clickbaity the x series can be got for €350 used, Its a great starting point for someone new to flight simulator and before they build/buy a PC and the x5 time the price of a new series x.
I fly on Xbox series X it's fabulous. PC is not all the world!
ITS SO BORING TO BE FLYING FOR HOURS AND JUST DO NOTHING BUT LOOKING THRU WINDOWS ETC... ALL THOSE LONG DISTANCE FLYS ARE SOOO BORING.
Then don’t play it. Other people enjoy it because there is always something to do while flying long haul, you are never sitting and looking out the window for hours on end, you are monitoring your aircraft and surroundings, you monitor fuel, autopilot, the route, traffic, etc. it’s not boring because you are always occupied with something.
quite impressed about the XBOX series X performance on FSX, I tried it on my 1600 € Laptop (Acer Nitro V 17 (I know it's a laptop, not really ideal for this game), but it struggled, mostly because I only had no full SSD in it, just a hybrid drive, you need one to avoid the micro stutters cause by loading data while flying
Strange it has no SSD , my MSI has a 512GB SSD (it's small for a game like this) . But it cost me 1100€ and it has 3050ti in it. I hope it plays Flightsim, my previous laptop did well with a 1660ti and Flightsim.
I need the lighter cards because I can't use to much power in my truck or my batteries are empty to quickly 🙈 .
Learning to fly is hard 😂
@@hayerenders4576 my nitro is older, it has a 1060 card in it, ssd was not that common or extremely expensive then
Another person with OPINIONS not FACTS!
The xbox series x is awesome so smooth.. no lag at all.. I see Intel i9 with gefore rtx 3090 lagging.. doesn't matter if you don't get a few planes.. more than happy with my xbox series x £450 with flight simulator
The only reason most of the planes for Xbox are paid is because they give you a crap ton if you buy it with game pass for free. like 50 something planes is what I got for free with game pass
I really haven't had many issues at all on Xbox Series X. Except ONE aggravating issue. I purchased this back in April 2022...it was beautiful, smooth. I think World Update 9(?) was released just days after I bought it and that was a compete mess, totally deflating since I JUST bought this! Quite a few CTDs, freezing up. HOWEVER updates since that mess, no major issues. The 40th anniversary update..eh..few planes didn't work whatsoever, A310 was one of them...and a real bummer. (NO control over throttle), DC-3 was also unusable. Everything else was fine though. That all seemed to be fixed an update later. Since then, it's been relatively ok. Yeah, I get an occational CTD from time to time out of nowhere, and it stinks, I'd say 97--98% of the time - for me, this is working flawlessly on my Series X.
I had purchased and installed the full system it took 4 days to get it all downloaded and what gets me is how glitchy it still is and the lag response you'll hit the buttons and if the lag is too great it won't even notice you touched your buttons so you'll fail your training a whole lot cuz it can't keep up in real time at all
Have an xbox and about 450 hours in flight sim, definitely getting a PC eventually.
Based on alot of these comments people like the xbox experience me personally have had nothing but problems with the PC version and alot of headaches with it so my next time I buy it'll be on xbox. Thank you sorry to the guy who made this video
I think the only disadvantage we have on Xbox is lack of atc because I think we can all agree that it ain’t that good as vatsim because other than that more pc aircraft are coming to the sim I hope in the msfs 2024 they improve atx
For a fraction of the price u get fs2020 on xbox in 4k settings. I started playing FS long ago and played fsx p3d a lot. I own most saitek hardware and trackir on pc, played on vatsim and pilotedge. But playing it in 4k on xbox just for fun is great and tecommended if u dont have the time to sink dozens of hours a week on the sim.
It used to work so well. And now it’s non stop crashing 😩 so disappointing
Yes, same happen here, and what they do? Nothing...
I play in Xbox Series S, and its very fun to play it, its like everything you want to have, the same gane, Even MSFS 2024 is gonna be on Xbox, thats the best game ever
I would buy it but sadly controller is gonna be painful to play on
I am so pleased to see this. I have endeavoured for many years to have people understand that this is a simulator, not a game. Rather I see it as a simulator with a symbiotic game element. Unfortunately Microsoft market it as a game (for business reasons) and Asobo uses a game engine (which is necessary for our enjoyment and the mechanics of the simulation), however too many people encourage and reinforce the perception that it's a game, and I argue that unless we simmers quit this attitude then we are more likely to get more of a game than a flight simulation (in future versions as well). The object of a flight simulation should be "flight replication", not 'playing' a game, otherwise if gaming was the focus then there are plenty of games people can spend their time and money on. Since beginning flight simming in 1973 I have invested AU$75,000 in the genre (software, hardware etcetera) no-one spends that kind of money on a game. I take flight simulation seriously, and Microsoft needs to change their marketing strategies just a little bit, and push the reality aspect of simulation - and tone down the 'game' aspect. I don't believe they will lose financially if they have a smart writer of blurbs and 'package' information.
XBox for gamers and PC for flight replicators. Microsoft and Asobo need to run both but there should be a clear demarcation in their minds and the minds of people who use the product(s).
extra features aren’t worth the likely extra 1000+ dollars you’d spend for a good pc to run msfs imo
A flight stick and a wireless keyboard/mouse and the experience is almost the same - unless you have a very high end GPU. Xbox has its limitation, but price/performance the Xbox X is a clear winner. The PC graphics card alone will be double the price of the X. If you can afford it, PC is better - but at a high price.
best way to put it
I have been seeing a lot of comments about the game crashing a lot on XBox series X, can anyone give me an update on this is 2024? Have these bugs been figured out? Thanks!
Don't agree with the title! I've got a PC and Xbox. I use both. Do not take any notice guys. Xbox is a superb platform. I think the Xbox X is equivalent to a RTX 3060 which i had in my PC, costing 2K. I've upgraded. Had superb fun and time on the Xbox and completely adequate for anyone starting off on this excellent flight sim. Superb for a console to deliver such fantastic graphics on a flight sim.
Interesting and I agree that Xbox is limited, although it is fun if you wanna just have a casual flight after a stressful day, set autopilot and watch then drop to sleep. But I am more of what you're promoting, I do this with SIM racing games like F1, although I don't have a steering wheel yet due to placement of item in the room, I have the settings as realistic as possible to give that real life vibe of what it's like to be as a real life F1 racecar driver, I want to do the same with Flight Sim, a great experience, great fun and relaxing too. But of course, if you're like me and wanna chill then stick on Series X, nothing wrong with that. Both sides have their pros to this, just depends on the persons perspective.
This video is completely pointless, because you know that money makes the difference and not the wrong choice one makes.
I think you are totally missing the budget differences and not everyone needing things to be the best. For 230€ you can buy an Xboxseries S and it looks really good.
There is something like a good price experience ratio that you ignore.
So people with a low budget, who do not have a 4K screen and might be a bit older(harder to see the difference between 4K and Full HD) the xbox series S experience + game + controller(a HOTAS One) is a 400€ in total dream to experience. Compare that to 'any' Flight Simulator in 2018 on the best PC possible and best controls and those in 2018 would gladly switch with the budget player right now.
So if you have the money and you want the best version possible, sure, you go all out on your PC. But you are making the differences sound way bigger than they are and totally downplaying the price differences for budget limited people.
I’m guessing there’s no virtual reality version either? Does anybody know?
Money? Cost of a PC that can comfortably run MSFS2020 is a lot more expensive.
I am a student pilot and I am looking for complete realism and practice my skills and I do not know which of the two to buy, PC or Xbox X☹️
I’m a student too and I bought the honeycomb alpha and bravo yoke and throttle quadrant in order to practice at home. I also bought a Xbox series S so I’ll be trying it these weeks. If you want me to do a review write me and we can share experiences with this simulator.
Microsoft flight simulator is great on the Xbox and 1,000 times cheaper end of story
Best Xbox feature the PC doesn't have - Quick Resume. So nice to just jump back into the game.
I first got into Flight Sim on the Xbox Series S. Was hooked from the word go. Then moved to Series X. And you are right. Absolutely a gateway drug. I currently do not have a PC to run Flight Sim on, but am saving money to buy a good gaming PC that can handle Flight Sim. If you don’t have a PC to run it, the Xbox will still scratch the itch. But, of you have a PC, that’s the way to go.
The computer has only one good advantage, that the PC has a lot of extras for this game that you can't easily get on the xbox.
Who the hell is this video made for? If you're THAT into flight sims to where it's your #1 hobby (lame), then sure, a decked out PC is ideal. But if it's just a side interest then why isn't Xbox okay? Of course it is.
Hardcore enthusiasts of any type of video game are so annoying. And yes, it's a flight sim VIDEO GAME. I know flight sim people get their panties in a bunch when you call it a video game but of course that's what it is.
Not everyone can shell out hundreds, if not a couple of grand $$$ towards a PC.
So playing on an Xbox (Series X for me, btw but others may have the Series S) usually will suffice.
I have a great collection of aircraft, and it's pretty common knowledge that PC games always look better because of the ability to upgrade components, graphic cards, xtra content, etc, I like many people are content enough with an Xbox.
Would I like to have the fictional MIG 31 FireFox on MFS? Of course, but like I said, not everyone will invest in a gaming PC.
However, if there is one game I DO miss on PC, it's Star Trek Bridge Commander (With all the mods you can add).
My series s is pretty good, it overheats at times but I have a fan so I use that but one thing I hate is that my avionics go dark at random times during flight and it’s pretty annoying
how the hell x box can make me flight, it dosnt even has a fucking wing
Well some people can't afford the money to even play this on PC. I enjoy it on Xbox it's a great alternative for all who don't have a lot of money to spend but still like to fly around.
So tell me how much I had to spend on a PC to surpass Xbox series x performance... 😂
I have a Series S, why ? Price...
But after 1 year with MSFS 2020 for XBOX what i can say? Disappointed
First...Shutdowns, crashing everytime like 5 times in less then one hour...
What more? Where is PMDG? A320 Fenix? CRJ?
For the ones who wants a REAL Experience, GNS530/430 what a mess....and only if you pay for it...
We dont want 1 airplane and 21312312637 liveries per month, we want decent and airplanes..
Please, we dont want Miliary Aircrafts anymore, Old schools ones, WE DONT WANT FLY A BIKE BOAT, OR NOTHING LIKE THAT.
Please, what about something from another dimension like 737? Anything from Embraer? come on...
Sorry i dont speak english.
I believe you’re absolutely right, but I purchased an Xbox series x exclusively to play MSFS and I’m very happy. I don’t deny my wishes for having a PC instead, but US$600 for an Xbox vs US$3500 for a pc, I think the Xbox is a winner.
I do have a computer but its no where near as strong to handle msfs, i have it on my xbox series s am i able to use replay mode on xbox for free?
Waiting for them to add shared cockpits. I wanna co pilot with my friend instead of having to catch up with each other.
I have xbox series x and i love my msfs on the console. I think having a pc is just to expensive
I don’t agree at all I had so many hours of fun on my Xbox series x. Sure there is not a third party option for free liveries and some planes. But I had a lot of fun on Xbox with flight simulator.
Bro alot of people cant afford pc
I have it on PC and Xbox. I like both. Xbox is really smooth running and will only get better with time.
Not everybody has 10.000 dollars
I love XBOX series s why? You hate this. GAME on Xbox series s. Why?
My game keeps closing on xbox series s
What about getting it as a first look into the game since I have no gaming pc? I am hoping soon to get it.
Outdated and misleading info. I play msfs on both PC and Xbox and with the same hotas. Both versions are great. Got almost 300 flight hours on Xbox only. Never to forget, you can find some glitches only on the PC version and others only on the Xbox version. When I see extreme opinnions regarding how one version is so much better than the other and to avoid one of the versions, I just don't believe this person tried both. Just saying
I have xbox series x and pc but I have x plane 11 and had a lot of trouble with my extra controllers not working properly which I have had it checked out my pc requirements are over the top for the program and supposed to work great but they don't because there is a problem in the programing of x plane 11 that something went wrong and no one can tell me why it worked great at first for about 2 years maybe but all of a sudden it stopped working I would drop out of auto pilot just out of the blue and my landing gear stopped working just a variety of things quit working right. Had alot of fun when it worked but now I have no flight simulator and I'm getting withdrawal symptoms I think thas why I was wondering about the xbox version for 120 bucks and go with that one
I have never played tried Microsoft flight simulator and it made me curious if it had some type of a training mode or instructional mode. What I mean by that is I am currently going through my Private Pilot license courses and once I'm done with that I'll be on to instrument. It would sure be nice to have a way to practice or even learn more instrument approaches or things like that on bad weather days or days that I can actually go out and fly and I was curious if a program like this actually has that.
With wasm support it is really fun especially now when pmdg 737 is comin. I also bought the atr 42/72 and a absolutely love that plane.
I’m a pc user starting to get frustrated with pc upgrade this or that. Might go to Xbox sometime for simple sake.
You missed a very big drawback of the xbox over pc. VR headset capability. If you want full immersion, VR is the way to go.
Xbox doesn’t and so far as we know will not support VR. It’s what makes me wish i could afford a good spec PC most.
That's a great point!
I have a VR headset but never use it. Too heavy, hot and downright uncomfortable.
Well,all the airlines, and aircrafts that come in msfs2020 for xbox serie s, are horrible to fly,the flight plan awful. The B747,A320neo, A300,all are bullshit, the autopilot is a shit,the AL pilot don't fallow the route. We can make a report to MSFS ?
£2000 for pc or £250 on series S? Easy choice for me I obviously went for the S as couldn’t get the X and was blown away how amazing it looked and performed solidly. However since the last update, it he developers have dropped a MASSIVE bollock and have completely ruined the visuals. Huge thread on Msfs official forum. An unacceptable fix time to add insult to injury. If you’re thinking about buying a console right now for Xbox. Don’t!
I am waiting to buy a used PC rig with i9 and RTX 3090 for $400-$500, the price of a XBox Series X.
I got this as my 3rd game on my Xbox and I love it you can’t say anything
Iam currently only able to do short flights simply due to the fact whenever I try to do a long distance flight and when I save the flight and reload the saved flight the tool bar keeps disappearing making it impossible to talk to air traffic control or anything else and unable to finish the flight.
I have a Xbox and the limitations don’t bother me I just need a a 330 and a350