If you are Backyard Breaks, and you are suddenly under scrutiny for getting loaded cases, wouldn't it be convenient for you to have another breaker immediately hit the Lamelo Logoman? But then the guy screwed up and said where he got the case from.
From what I understand Pokémon card pack and box sales are healthy and part of that credit goes to Logan Paul. Is it possible the card company is trying to recreate something like that hype for sports cards?
@@castortroy22 well keep waiting it won’t stop it was a thing years and years ago before the hobby really took off recently and they’ve only gotten significantly more popular unfortunately
@@renegradermax yeah only a few people did it before Covid, now every person thinks there a breaker shit is annoying, once fanatics takes over everything completely hopefully breakers die too
Don’t forget about Geoff’s new video about his kaboom flip where he exposed how he lied and manipulated about the condition of the card. Then took it to his boy at BGS and had it Graded a 9.5 then flipped it for 30k. Great proof of his manipulation and of grading services…
Great call! I mean how tacky and classless of Geoff to replay the original sale and even shows that part where he’s kicking the tires on that Kaboom, chisels him down to that $7,000. The nice guy he bought it from hooked him up thinking it was a PC Card, only to have this clown go to his boy at BGS and gets a 9.5?!?! He even admitted he was surprised, shows exactly how greasy the ‘hobby’ is!
It says it all that backyard breaks wasn’t willing to give out the Gold Trevor Lawrence kaboom but somehow they are going to be pulling cards that are worth hundreds of times more and sending them to random spots. I don’t think so. For them to legitimately be pulling all those cards they would have to be opening literally opening most of the product. So unless they are opening tens of thousands of boxes or are the worlds luckiest pack openers it’s clearly a scandal.
Makes me even wonder how legitimate other breakers are? A lot of breakers will pick some of the best teams and say there going to give them away, how do we not know there giving them to themselves or a friend. And in a pick your own team how do we not know they are taking all the good teams as soon as there posted? How do we know random teams are really random? Idk I’m about done with this shit
Lol. He bought the case from Backyard Breaks then lied when he got the mega hit that he didn't. Then takes down post and won't answer questions. Shady as hell.
Just discovered you guys a couple days ago, took about 2 years off of card collecting but came back, and I'm happy you're exposing all the shitbags of this hobby that need to be addressed. "Cardporn" is USELESS.
My biggest thing that the "apologists" don't seem to get is we are talking about the difference between odds and probability. Nobody is arguing that the odds of each card is the same but it's the PROBABILITY of pulling each of these Product hit level cards together that gets crazy.
Yes exactly!! To come on and say the odds of each independent event don’t change although true show that you have no idea the issue here! The probability of it with how much product is being printed is astronomical.
I’d like to see SCR do a deep dive into the legitimacy of some of these memorabilia cards. If you read the back on many of the cards they read “the third party they acquired (bat, jersey, etc..) it from guaranteed it’s authenticity. How do we know that patch is from a Gretzky jersey or it’s a piece of a Hank Aaron HR bat. Those of us that have been in the hobby more than week know that COA’s are a joke and there’s a plethora of bad memorabilia floating around.
i know. it says player worn...but was it worn by that player or some high school player? Was it worn in a game? or did the player put it on for 30 seconds and take it back off? this has been my biggest complaint last 2 years.
@@SgtJoeSmith player worn isn't game used. It is what it says it is. Player worn. You can look this up and find russell wilson with a huge layer of jerseys which he was contracted to wear for x amount of time.
I think at least some of the jerseys are just random jerseys Panini has around their warehouse. Reason being the New York Jets changed their uniforms in 2019. Yet their 2020 rookies Mims Perine and Morgan have jersey cards with the old jerseys.
Same with the Bowl patch cards in National Treasures collegiate. Panini buys the media day jerseys from all of the universities that have the bowl patch but we’re never worn by the player a stated on the card. I’ve pulled bowl jersey cards with patches from bowls the pictured player never even played in. It just happens to be a jersey with a bowl patch that the team played in one time in their existence.
Thank you for directing me to triple crown’s video. That was my miss. My video’s intent was to provide additional context to conditional probability. I’m glad to see triple crown did it for Layton, shared his detail and I’ve complimented him on his video.
you gotta talk about rungoodlifes apology video to steel city after he accused them of weighing silver packs lol. He must have got that good ole letter from their lawyer
If all these calculations are correct I will never buy Panini products again in life. Feeding these scum bags the hits. Just think of how many case buyers missed out on a chance of pulling a big hit. You actually have a better chance of walking out your front door on a sunny day and get struck by lightning than pulling all 3 hits! Ps the hobby house looks like a lil weasel beware
This isn't going to get any better with a single company owning all the major licenses. HOW individual major league licensing could be handed out exclusively and then consolidated under a single company and not be called an antitrust and reviewed by the FTC is beyond me. We need to go back to a minimum of 3 major brands to keep print runs lower, patches authentic and partnerships spread out.
I think Panini over the past two years since they know the end is near said f it and just literally sent influencer packs and cases to the people on the vip list.
I found sports breaks on TH-cam early this year. I'm down to randomly checking them, but staying with you all, Phil's Pulls and Rungood. I work in numbers and the likelihood on most of these channels is too good to be true. Keep up the work.
@@Scotto6977 It’s clear to say these breakers are killing the sports card hobby. People like to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on it is just mind boggling.
The amount of US retailers that sell cases, it is highly impossible to pull this steady like BB. They scheme and they loot and end up on top everytime. The people feed it too. Sickening.
I don't know if I fully believe in the conspiracy but I am following with an open mind. I do think a very important point is made at about 17:50 to the argument that people are saying that all you are doing is giving Backyard great publicity. "Why don't I buy into Backyard Breaks then". If they are knowingly sitting on juiced cases they would definitely make sure that those cards are going to the right places. I think a lot of fellow breakers have been discounting this conspiracy theory more so because it is bad for their own business if another breaker is getting publicity for having a juiced case connection. If they are in fact getting juiced cases, it does not at all mean they are playing fair with them and the T Law gold Kaboom debacle there is a huge testament to that. Perhaps there is a paper trail connection of who has been getting these huge hits?
I won a free spot in a Backyard Breaks football break and haven’t received my cards. I got a email a few days after the break but it has been well over 4 months and I haven’t received or heard anything from them. I just glad I didn’t actually spend my money with them…
I don't understand this whole break thing. I would never let someone I don't know open a pack, handle it, put in sleeve and top loader. How many of these great cards get to you in "Mint" condition? I also only buy in bulk. Breaks make no sense to me.
so backyard breaks could not open the case because of all the heat on them already so they pawn it off on another company but a company that used whatnot. very suspicious
The sketchiest point in the world to ice the cake on this needs to be addressed. Literally within a FEW DAYS of Whatnot offering up the lambo to pull the triple logoman LBJ, it was pulled DURING that marketing campaign by BYB. Not months or even weeks later. DURING the hype of that card at full effect. Insane
Sheep generation just wanna believe what theyre fed. Thank you for being here for the hobby. To not see the value in what SCR is providing, the sheep are happily holding their own blades that will slaughter them.
Yep, society has never been dumber and more complacent as a whole than it is right now. That mentality feeds right into the sports card hobby as well. With all the info we have at our fingertips, the average modern card buyer of today is in a lot of ways far less intelligent than we were back in the first overproduction era 30 years ago. Pretty pathetic really.
So Backyard Breaks literally handed the murder weapon to their friend who immediately drove down the strip and murdered someone else and said who gave them the gun. Nice
Who wants to start the class action lawsuit vs panini. Anyone who bought a pack in the last few years should be eligible plaintiffs. I'm glad I dont fuck with panini at all, just licensed baseball
The trio of synchronized hype at the start of this video will always make me die. I remember laughing so hard at ryan’s “Ohhh my god” as he throws his hands up on the live
Pac-Man brakes does a break every weekend 16 box mixers always has the top product he's been doing it for two three years he doesn't have the following like backyard brakes maybe but Pac-Man is pretty big and he doesn't pull hits like these guys pull hits these guys are pulling once in a lifetime cards and they pulled five and eight months all panini and there's nothing fishy there come on man sounds like Joe Biden when he says there's no recession
Like I said in the livestream, the silence is deafening from Panini. I held off on some of these talking points for my most recent video. Instead wanted to focus on the idiots saying panini, whatnot or an assembly line worker wouldn’t do xyz.
They knew they were being watched, if they all of a sudden hit this live it would only bring more heat. Probably sold it to a close friend not thinking he would announce he bought from them.
It's so fucking ridiculous now a days, we didn't have this problem back in the day. We bought a pack, opened it up, and were happy with our piece of cardboard with a picture on the front, and the players stats on the back. We didn't need shiny or sparkly. If you wanted an autograph, you had to go ask for it. Someone showed me his favourite basketball card 2 weeks ago, he says, check this out, he's an awesome player. I look at the back of the card, and no stats, so if I buy any basketball cards, I can tell who the best players are, if their favourite food is pizza! LOL
Everything looks exceedingly rare when you consider sequencing. Like if you flip a coin 10 times and it comes up in order HTTHHHTHTT, there's actually only a 1 in 1,024 chance of that exact sequence happening. Alternatively, the odds of getting exactly 5 heads and 5 tails in any order is about 1 in 4. My point is that you need to consider not just these select few cards that were actually hit, but also the high value cards that were not hit.
You are missing the point. They aren’t pulling great cards. We are talking the probability of pulling the absolute most expensive and desirable cards in the set with panini printing an insane amount of product. Both the mathematical probability and common sense tell you something is wrong here.
@@stevem9203 they've hit the best cards in some sets and have not hit the best cards in other sets, right? So you need to look at the overall percent of the best cards that they've hit and compare that to the overall percent of products that they've opened. If you open 5% of all product, then you'd expect to get the best card out of 5% of those sets. But with a small sample of products, it could end up being 10-15%, or 0%. In essence, going 3 for 3 is a lot different than going 3 for 20.
@@kdm211 I agree but are these the best cards in the products? I suppose you would have to break down every one of the product hits and see if these are the best ones. Because if they are the evidence seems pretty irrefutable
Fantastic video and you guys was right all along you guys are responsible for breaking the loaded cases story I knew these guys was crooks all along “ back yard breaks “ especially when those 2 jokers pulled that gold card and then decided not to give it away because they called the card a “ Tesla “ they was not to even be trusted at that point that joker and his side kick with the half shirt on. Loved the opening of this video with all the “ BROWN NOSE BREAKERS “ siding in with these idiots and where is “ BROWN NOSE BRAD “ with his math technology getting back to you guys with his one sided math adding you guys are doing great work there and please stay on top of these crooks fantastic job the both of you and you deserve the top channel you tube award. ----- Anthony
The only thing that I think speaks volume in regards to panini is they do not post the odds on their products , I think that it’s because they like having a grey area that “unknown” factor which drives prices , if they put a print run on downtowns and kabooms I think that we would all be shocked at how many they are printing
I knew Panani is crooked back in 2017. I was in online breaks with a lower breaker where he pulled 2 Kizer FOTL in national treasures along with all lower end in team breaks. He never pulled anything special. Then bought into another break dude pulled Trubiksy, Maholmes, Kamara cards in their breaks. We then knew this was crooked and went to only special breakers. This of course was before backyard breakers and is when I quit buying in breaks because I knew it was crooked. Plus a 3 box break on FOTL 2017 National Treasures chiefs would go for 350 back then but their breaks got over 800.00 if you bid in like they knew their boxes were juiced. Now go back notice these breakers were deleted from TH-cam because they took them all down. Only lower end breakers ones are still up. Panani is a crooked organization and why I no longer collect from breaks or packs.
This math is flawed - the chances of finding 3 specific product hits isn’t nearly the same odds as hitting 3 random product hits. Everyone is using the math wrong - let’s say there is 50 product hits in NT this math assumes pulling 3 specific cards vs 3 out of a pool of something like 50 1/1s. We know there are more 1/1 or super high end hits now than there’s every been. These numbers are wrong. I would never doubt the possibility of backyard getting first dibs but don’t use this flawed math as proof
@@SportsCardShow I’m a fan of yours sir - not sure why the immediate attack on me Essentially we are running the odds of hitting those specific 3 hits when in reality it should be 3 out of a total pool of hits - I don’t know what that total pool is - maybe it’s 20 maybe it’s 50 - if we consider a 1/1 rpa a hit, triple logos, 1/1s - what we know is that there are more high end hits now than ever. So - the numbers he ran are great but they are exploring odds of 3 specific hits - so there is only one cade 1/1 those odds are 1:19,000 for example (NT boxes), whereas the odds should be 1:950 (if we assume 20 mega hits and 19,000 boxes). So then the math is 1:950 odds per hit versus 1:19,000 odds per hit ^3 It’s still mathematically significant for them to have 3 or 4 hits but it’s not quantifiable as being the hit of the century - the fallacy is assigning odds for those hits as a 1/1 when we know there are likely dozens of mega hits. Now separately, hitting a 1/1 card and 1/1 lamello is indeed terribly improbable and inexcusable - I don’t doubt there are not boxes and I don’t doubt many motivations for a company to hit huge hits to the widest audience to boost sales
@@SportsCardShow one more thing to note - if you apply the math to a pool of 60 hits, the expected amount of hits backyard breaks has is in fact 3 - At 20 hits it averages to 1 in 1,000 at 60 possible high end hits its 3 in 1,000
It’s a lot simpler than what everyone is making it. Yes the math will always be complicated, Panini knows what’s in what box or case you have to be an idiot to think otherwise and I guarantee they have people watch the printing and packing operations. They want the people with the most eyes opening product
LOL you can’t make this stuff up. Me? I’ll take care of my family and spend my money wisely. I don’t have time to spend hard earned money on a piece of cardboard with a picture on it.
I personally believe it is panini. This is why. Panini opens basically an online store uses some of their employees as breakers. Panini send their loaded product to their own online store. People spend thousands of dollars on a chance for those hits. They open the product get the hits more people enter more MONEY. As the gentlemen said the MATH doesn't add up. The guy who kept saying about you could win the lottery twice that's possible but 4 to 26 times MATH doesn't add up. I believe it's Panini. When their product is opened at a large rate meaning you have a greater chance to pull those hits. Not really if Panini is holding it then once they milk as much money as they can they raise the price because the odds should be and would be greater. PANINI!!!!! Dig your show.
What about episode 64 on If Sports top 10,where a breaker from China pulled 2 out of the 5,NT,Cade logoman cards? I would love to know the odds of that happening and what’s crazy, a third one also was pulled in China. So 3 out the 5 Cade NT logoman were pulled in China with 2 of them being pulled by the same breaker🤔🤯🤷🏻♂️
did anyone actually zoom into the live? i dont have 20 minutes to watch this. but you still got my sub and a like. lets get some daily highlights, i love your videos theyre just sooooo long
I’ve been in the hobby for 9 years. I’ve ripped multiple hobby boxes monthly the entire time. I have pulled exactly ONE 1/1 the ENTIRE NINE YEARS. Granted I’m not ripping cases of NT, but seeing my personal results doesn’t exactly give me faith that backyard hit these astronomical odds. Also, keep in mind most of the people who criticize the math are the same dummies who were sitting in high school algebra saying “this shit is so stupid, I’m never gonna use this in real life.” I wouldn’t put too much value on their criticism.
Obviously if there is a deal going down between panini and fanatics there is of course some sort of block on any new press releases that could affect the value of the deal?
What y’all need to understand is that the data they show is when each product if first made. The entire totality… as weeks after weeks after weeks after months after months go by, and a product has been out for 6 months, those odds are dramatically increased. You’re basically backing that top tier hit into a corner the longer a product is out. Now after said product has been out for a while and lets say there’s 500 cases left, Backyard goes out and sources 200 cases, there odds are almost 50% to pull that monster hit. WAY TOO MANY VARIABLES! And what you won’t hear is this the numbers they’re showing you is when a product is fresh off the press, because that’s when it’s the easiest to know how many cases were made.
You guys also assume the card actually goes into the product. All the math is bad if the case or card never hits the product run like you think it does.
Layton sports cards and barbell brakes are the only two people I break with and I've been breaking with late in for over 8 years and I never seen that many number one cards pulled by one breaker in an 8 month span it's impossible and they called that they were going to pull the lamelo ball logo man 101 he said it was in that case
Agree about Panini "joyriding" and the other breaker with the Lamelo logo man saying they got the case from BB and then refusing to elaborate says an awful lot. Also, livestream was tremendous and Dippin' Daniel fucking rules.
Live stream was great. More live streams!
Daniel FTW 🤘
If you are Backyard Breaks, and you are suddenly under scrutiny for getting loaded cases, wouldn't it be convenient for you to have another breaker immediately hit the Lamelo Logoman? But then the guy screwed up and said where he got the case from.
Timing is everything. If he wasn't lying about where he got the case its incredibly suss
It is why they have 1000 whatnot channels and call it a slightly different name. They act like super ego douches...
From what I understand Pokémon card pack and box sales are healthy and part of that credit goes to Logan Paul.
Is it possible the card company is trying to recreate something like that hype for sports cards?
@@DaleGribble1 Absolutely.
That's greed for ya..
The only way to stop this nonsense and make these clowns go away is STOP buying into breaks - it's a scam
I can’t wait til breaks aren’t a thing anymore
Amen!!!
@@castortroy22 well keep waiting it won’t stop it was a thing years and years ago before the hobby really took off recently and they’ve only gotten significantly more popular unfortunately
@@renegradermax yeah only a few people did it before Covid, now every person thinks there a breaker shit is annoying, once fanatics takes over everything completely hopefully breakers die too
Don’t forget about Geoff’s new video about his kaboom flip where he exposed how he lied and manipulated about the condition of the card. Then took it to his boy at BGS and had it Graded a 9.5 then flipped it for 30k. Great proof of his manipulation and of grading services…
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I thought the exact same thing.
Great call! I mean how tacky and classless of Geoff to replay the original sale and even shows that part where he’s kicking the tires on that Kaboom, chisels him down to that $7,000. The nice guy he bought it from hooked him up thinking it was a PC Card, only to have this clown go to his boy at BGS and gets a 9.5?!?! He even admitted he was surprised, shows exactly how greasy the ‘hobby’ is!
@@polishmasterjay shady on his behalf but I’m more annoyed at the fact Beckett would do that.
That dude is who needs to be exposed honestly
Unbelievable amount of shadiness in the hobby unfortunately. Great job as always guys
I have been saying this over and over. The mathematical chances alone for them to get that many huge 1 of 1's is impossible.
It says it all that backyard breaks wasn’t willing to give out the Gold Trevor Lawrence kaboom but somehow they are going to be pulling cards that are worth hundreds of times more and sending them to random spots. I don’t think so. For them to legitimately be pulling all those cards they would have to be opening literally opening most of the product. So unless they are opening tens of thousands of boxes or are the worlds luckiest pack openers it’s clearly a scandal.
Makes me even wonder how legitimate other breakers are? A lot of breakers will pick some of the best teams and say there going to give them away, how do we not know there giving them to themselves or a friend. And in a pick your own team how do we not know they are taking all the good teams as soon as there posted? How do we know random teams are really random? Idk I’m about done with this shit
@@PapaLu08 just buy singles man
Got into sports cards by watching Geoff's channel and just felt that he was so shady, super glad you guys are here to keep it all in check
This is some McDonald's Monopoly scandal type fuckery.
Lol. He bought the case from Backyard Breaks then lied when he got the mega hit that he didn't. Then takes down post and won't answer questions. Shady as hell.
Just discovered you guys a couple days ago, took about 2 years off of card collecting but came back, and I'm happy you're exposing all the shitbags of this hobby that need to be addressed. "Cardporn" is USELESS.
Card companies have been playing a stacked game for as long as I can remember, this really shouldn't be that big of a surprise.
My biggest thing that the "apologists" don't seem to get is we are talking about the difference between odds and probability. Nobody is arguing that the odds of each card is the same but it's the PROBABILITY of pulling each of these Product hit level cards together that gets crazy.
Yes exactly!! To come on and say the odds of each independent event don’t change although true show that you have no idea the issue here! The probability of it with how much product is being printed is astronomical.
I’d like to see SCR do a deep dive into the legitimacy of some of these memorabilia cards. If you read the back on many of the cards they read “the third party they acquired (bat, jersey, etc..) it from guaranteed it’s authenticity.
How do we know that patch is from a Gretzky jersey or it’s a piece of a Hank Aaron HR bat. Those of us that have been in the hobby more than week know that COA’s are a joke and there’s a plethora of bad memorabilia floating around.
i know. it says player worn...but was it worn by that player or some high school player? Was it worn in a game? or did the player put it on for 30 seconds and take it back off? this has been my biggest complaint last 2 years.
@@SgtJoeSmith player worn isn't game used. It is what it says it is. Player worn. You can look this up and find russell wilson with a huge layer of jerseys which he was contracted to wear for x amount of time.
I think at least some of the jerseys are just random jerseys Panini has around their warehouse. Reason being the New York Jets changed their uniforms in 2019. Yet their 2020 rookies Mims Perine and Morgan have jersey cards with the old jerseys.
Same with the Bowl patch cards in National Treasures collegiate. Panini buys the media day jerseys from all of the universities that have the bowl patch but we’re never worn by the player a stated on the card. I’ve pulled bowl jersey cards with patches from bowls the pictured player never even played in. It just happens to be a jersey with a bowl patch that the team played in one time in their existence.
Thank you for directing me to triple crown’s video. That was my miss. My video’s intent was to provide additional context to conditional probability. I’m glad to see triple crown did it for Layton, shared his detail and I’ve complimented him on his video.
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you gotta talk about rungoodlifes apology video to steel city after he accused them of weighing silver packs lol. He must have got that good ole letter from their lawyer
There are like 5 employees at Panini America. It could be the whole US operation in on the grift.
If all these calculations are correct I will never buy Panini products again in life. Feeding these scum bags the hits. Just think of how many case buyers missed out on a chance of pulling a big hit. You actually have a better chance of walking out your front door on a sunny day and get struck by lightning than pulling all 3 hits! Ps the hobby house looks like a lil weasel beware
This isn't going to get any better with a single company owning all the major licenses. HOW individual major league licensing could be handed out exclusively and then consolidated under a single company and not be called an antitrust and reviewed by the FTC is beyond me. We need to go back to a minimum of 3 major brands to keep print runs lower, patches authentic and partnerships spread out.
After watching this, I now know how Deshaun felt when he didn't get a happy ending
*inside panini offices*
"everyone keep your mouths shut till we're sold and the bonus checks will be in the mail"
I think Panini over the past two years since they know the end is near said f it and just literally sent influencer packs and cases to the people on the vip list.
To what end? What is their end game? Why help them out?
@@bluphobia Money
I found sports breaks on TH-cam early this year. I'm down to randomly checking them, but staying with you all, Phil's Pulls and Rungood. I work in numbers and the likelihood on most of these channels is too good to be true. Keep up the work.
Breakers definitely get better cases...there's absolutely no doubt to me.
Is it me or during the original livestream, both of the breakers on the video moods go from woohoo happy to worried and scared?
That goofy chic, on backyard breaks, looks like she came from some trailer park, out of meth city trailers !
Another loaded case? How lucky can these guys be?
Every week Layton and BYB are always on If Sports top 10 pulls
@@Scotto6977 It’s clear to say these breakers are killing the sports card hobby. People like to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on it is just mind boggling.
The amount of US retailers that sell cases, it is highly impossible to pull this steady like BB. They scheme and they loot and end up on top everytime. The people feed it too. Sickening.
This is why I quit buying cases/boxes and no longer collect modern cards. I will just stick with pre-1980 cards
I don't know if I fully believe in the conspiracy but I am following with an open mind. I do think a very important point is made at about 17:50 to the argument that people are saying that all you are doing is giving Backyard great publicity. "Why don't I buy into Backyard Breaks then". If they are knowingly sitting on juiced cases they would definitely make sure that those cards are going to the right places. I think a lot of fellow breakers have been discounting this conspiracy theory more so because it is bad for their own business if another breaker is getting publicity for having a juiced case connection. If they are in fact getting juiced cases, it does not at all mean they are playing fair with them and the T Law gold Kaboom debacle there is a huge testament to that.
Perhaps there is a paper trail connection of who has been getting these huge hits?
I won a free spot in a Backyard Breaks football break and haven’t received my cards. I got a email a few days after the break but it has been well over 4 months and I haven’t received or heard anything from them. I just glad I didn’t actually spend my money with them…
Cmon! It's perfectly plausible the Lions, The Sacramento kings, the Colorado Rockies, and Rutgers all winning the championship in the same season!
I don't understand this whole break thing. I would never let someone I don't know open a pack, handle it, put in sleeve and top loader. How many of these great cards get to you in "Mint" condition? I also only buy in bulk. Breaks make no sense to me.
its hard to look at that chick opening packs and squeezing the cards
Fanatics guy asked backyards what needed to be done to have a bigger audience, so are we witnessing the answer to that question?
so backyard breaks could not open the case because of all the heat on them already so they pawn it off on another company but a company that used whatnot. very suspicious
The sketchiest point in the world to ice the cake on this needs to be addressed. Literally within a FEW DAYS of Whatnot offering up the lambo to pull the triple logoman LBJ, it was pulled DURING that marketing campaign by BYB. Not months or even weeks later. DURING the hype of that card at full effect. Insane
She’s all thumbs.
Sheep generation just wanna believe what theyre fed. Thank you for being here for the hobby. To not see the value in what SCR is providing, the sheep are happily holding their own blades that will slaughter them.
Yep, society has never been dumber and more complacent as a whole than it is right now. That mentality feeds right into the sports card hobby as well. With all the info we have at our fingertips, the average modern card buyer of today is in a lot of ways far less intelligent than we were back in the first overproduction era 30 years ago. Pretty pathetic really.
IMAGAINE if panain answered an email. It would be revolutionary .
I will hit a logoman before my email or my damaged card is returned
I think those hit drafts needs to be investigated. Thanks
What’s keeping the breakers from setting up a bogus account maybe two or three with bogus screen names and them taking the cards
There is no way you got the actual dippin daniel on the show how could I miss that?!?!
So Backyard Breaks literally handed the murder weapon to their friend who immediately drove down the strip and murdered someone else and said who gave them the gun. Nice
KARROT TOP KEN IS WATCHIN 🤣👀
Who wants to start the class action lawsuit vs panini. Anyone who bought a pack in the last few years should be eligible plaintiffs. I'm glad I dont fuck with panini at all, just licensed baseball
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The fact that’s it’s a “single” manufacturer…… puts me WAY over 50/50
Some serious fraud going on here. Backyard needs to dissolve like all other breakers. They are the herpes of a once wholesome hobby.
What’s funny is that people are using Layton as a comparison when it’s been long speculated that Layton gets juiced cases
The trio of synchronized hype at the start of this video will always make me die. I remember laughing so hard at ryan’s “Ohhh my god” as he throws his hands up on the live
It's the "McMillions" of sports cards!
Pac-Man brakes does a break every weekend 16 box mixers always has the top product he's been doing it for two three years he doesn't have the following like backyard brakes maybe but Pac-Man is pretty big and he doesn't pull hits like these guys pull hits these guys are pulling once in a lifetime cards and they pulled five and eight months all panini and there's nothing fishy there come on man sounds like Joe Biden when he says there's no recession
Anyone who has ever pulled a superfractor had very little chance of doing it. Does that mean that they were being shady?
Like I said in the livestream, the silence is deafening from Panini.
I held off on some of these talking points for my most recent video. Instead wanted to focus on the idiots saying panini, whatnot or an assembly line worker wouldn’t do xyz.
They knew they were being watched, if they all of a sudden hit this live it would only bring more heat. Probably sold it to a close friend not thinking he would announce he bought from them.
It's so fucking ridiculous now a days, we didn't have this problem back in the day. We bought a pack, opened it up, and were happy with our piece of cardboard with a picture on the front, and the players stats on the back. We didn't need shiny or sparkly. If you wanted an autograph, you had to go ask for it. Someone showed me his favourite basketball card 2 weeks ago, he says, check this out, he's an awesome player. I look at the back of the card, and no stats, so if I buy any basketball cards, I can tell who the best players are, if their favourite food is pizza! LOL
It's all about low IQ cards for low IQ new collectors.
The backyard breaks guys do come across as sleezy.
They make it easy.
They are from Florida, what else would you expect
Most basketball breakers are scummy.
Everything looks exceedingly rare when you consider sequencing. Like if you flip a coin 10 times and it comes up in order HTTHHHTHTT, there's actually only a 1 in 1,024 chance of that exact sequence happening. Alternatively, the odds of getting exactly 5 heads and 5 tails in any order is about 1 in 4.
My point is that you need to consider not just these select few cards that were actually hit, but also the high value cards that were not hit.
You are missing the point. They aren’t pulling great cards. We are talking the probability of pulling the absolute most expensive and desirable cards in the set with panini printing an insane amount of product. Both the mathematical probability and common sense tell you something is wrong here.
@@stevem9203 they've hit the best cards in some sets and have not hit the best cards in other sets, right? So you need to look at the overall percent of the best cards that they've hit and compare that to the overall percent of products that they've opened. If you open 5% of all product, then you'd expect to get the best card out of 5% of those sets. But with a small sample of products, it could end up being 10-15%, or 0%.
In essence, going 3 for 3 is a lot different than going 3 for 20.
@@kdm211 I agree but are these the best cards in the products? I suppose you would have to break down every one of the product hits and see if these are the best ones. Because if they are the evidence seems pretty irrefutable
I watched for 5 hrs before I had to "DIP" loved you calling out the "it's laggit " crowed that came on, keep it real shill busters!
Sports Card Radio! Exposing that dirt! Keep up the awesome, content!
Luv u guys info! All these shady people need to go away.
Fantastic video and you guys was right all along you guys are responsible for breaking the loaded cases story I knew these guys was crooks all along “ back yard breaks “ especially when those 2 jokers pulled that gold card and then decided not to give it away because they called the card a “ Tesla “ they was not to even be trusted at that point that joker and his side kick with the half shirt on. Loved the opening of this video with all the “ BROWN NOSE BREAKERS “ siding in with these idiots and where is “ BROWN NOSE BRAD “ with his math technology getting back to you guys with his one sided math adding you guys are doing great work there and please stay on top of these crooks fantastic job the both of you and you deserve the top channel you tube award. ----- Anthony
The only thing that I think speaks volume in regards to panini is they do not post the odds on their products , I think that it’s because they like having a grey area that “unknown” factor which drives prices , if they put a print run on downtowns and kabooms I think that we would all be shocked at how many they are printing
I knew Panani is crooked back in 2017. I was in online breaks with a lower breaker where he pulled 2 Kizer FOTL in national treasures along with all lower end in team breaks. He never pulled anything special. Then bought into another break dude pulled Trubiksy, Maholmes, Kamara cards in their breaks. We then knew this was crooked and went to only special breakers. This of course was before backyard breakers and is when I quit buying in breaks because I knew it was crooked. Plus a 3 box break on FOTL 2017 National Treasures chiefs would go for 350 back then but their breaks got over 800.00 if you bid in like they knew their boxes were juiced. Now go back notice these breakers were deleted from TH-cam because they took them all down. Only lower end breakers ones are still up. Panani is a crooked organization and why I no longer collect from breaks or packs.
Yup. I don’t collect panini at all.
Although I do like prizm and optic. Very nice cards. But fuck them
People think that girl is "Cute"? I think they need to lay off that hippie lettuce
These guys like bigfoots.
Double Dip
Someone send Project Veritas in there
Panini could be in a quiet period due to a pending M&A deal..
lol didn't expect coach duggs in the intro
one of my favorite barstool videos ever might be frank and duggs and the Chicago convention, that's a hidden gem
So what you’re saying is, if I want some absolute nasty hits I need to break with the Backyard. Ok you convinced me!
They all split the sale on these cards is a racquet
This math is flawed - the chances of finding 3 specific product hits isn’t nearly the same odds as hitting 3 random product hits. Everyone is using the math wrong - let’s say there is 50 product hits in NT this math assumes pulling 3 specific cards vs 3 out of a pool of something like 50 1/1s. We know there are more 1/1 or super high end hits now than there’s every been. These numbers are wrong. I would never doubt the possibility of backyard getting first dibs but don’t use this flawed math as proof
You’re a moron. We are talking about 4 cards. Stop adding different ones moron
@@SportsCardShow I’m a fan of yours sir - not sure why the immediate attack on me
Essentially we are running the odds of hitting those specific 3 hits when in reality it should be 3 out of a total pool of hits - I don’t know what that total pool is - maybe it’s 20 maybe it’s 50 - if we consider a 1/1 rpa a hit, triple logos, 1/1s - what we know is that there are more high end hits now than ever.
So - the numbers he ran are great but they are exploring odds of 3 specific hits - so there is only one cade 1/1 those odds are 1:19,000 for example (NT boxes), whereas the odds should be 1:950 (if we assume 20 mega hits and 19,000 boxes). So then the math is 1:950 odds per hit versus 1:19,000 odds per hit ^3
It’s still mathematically significant for them to have 3 or 4 hits but it’s not quantifiable as being the hit of the century - the fallacy is assigning odds for those hits as a 1/1 when we know there are likely dozens of mega hits.
Now separately, hitting a 1/1 card and 1/1 lamello is indeed terribly improbable and inexcusable - I don’t doubt there are not boxes and I don’t doubt many motivations for a company to hit huge hits to the widest audience to boost sales
@@SportsCardShow one more thing to note - if you apply the math to a pool of 60 hits, the expected amount of hits backyard breaks has is in fact 3 -
At 20 hits it averages to 1 in 1,000 at 60 possible high end hits its 3 in 1,000
Why do you keep talking about mega hits?? The cards Backyard hit were the BEST cards in the product. Period. Period. Fuck
@@SportsCardShow exactly!!! The 4 BEST cards pulled by the SAME BREAKER…
This is the situation being questioned right here…
@2:43 tell that boy, you are in my house!
You are the Tucker Carlson of sports cards.
This is funny.
😂
Thanks for trying to keep the hobby in check!
It’s a lot simpler than what everyone is making it. Yes the math will always be complicated, Panini knows what’s in what box or case you have to be an idiot to think otherwise and I guarantee they have people watch the printing and packing operations. They want the people with the most eyes opening product
LOL "Brokeback Brad"
The Circus of Pubic Hairs AKA BYB……continues!
Looking forward to watching the video later on tonight! Keep up the great work fellas
LOL you can’t make this stuff up. Me? I’ll take care of my family and spend my money wisely. I don’t have time to spend hard earned money on a piece of cardboard with a picture on it.
So you're saying I should buy into backyard breaks!👍 Thanks for the insider info.👍😂
I personally believe it is panini. This is why. Panini opens basically an online store uses some of their employees as breakers. Panini send their loaded product to their own online store. People spend thousands of dollars on a chance for those hits. They open the product get the hits more people enter more MONEY. As the gentlemen said the MATH doesn't add up. The guy who kept saying about you could win the lottery twice that's possible but 4 to 26 times MATH doesn't add up. I believe it's Panini. When their product is opened at a large rate meaning you have a greater chance to pull those hits. Not really if Panini is holding it then once they milk as much money as they can they raise the price because the odds should be and would be greater. PANINI!!!!! Dig your show.
If the big hits are gone it drops the value of the product. The argument of Panini knowing makes no sense to me.
Backyard breaks might probably has a insider working for panini that handles the packaging and shipping
That’s surprising how little Layton is ripping now! Backyard probably does 2-4x that
Layton prefills most breaks. BYB live fills and it has more of a gambling feel to it.
Really does make U wonder who at Panini knows what is in the box.
It would take at least 2-3 people to know what's where, the pressman, the person in packaging and the person in shipping.
@@MasterShake300 Some piss off employees or a pay off.
What about episode 64 on If Sports top 10,where a breaker from China pulled 2 out of the 5,NT,Cade logoman cards? I would love to know the odds of that happening and what’s crazy, a third one also was pulled in China. So 3 out the 5 Cade NT logoman were pulled in China with 2 of them being pulled by the same breaker🤔🤯🤷🏻♂️
Must be some Chinese hanky panky
Panini gives loaded boxes to these guys for a reason it’s good for business. Panini would never sue for defamation because that would expose the truth
did anyone actually zoom into the live? i dont have 20 minutes to watch this. but you still got my sub and a like. lets get some daily highlights, i love your videos theyre just sooooo long
This video is great!! You showed so much Backyard Sara and I enjoyed every second of it 😍. Keep up the awesome content SCR. Backyard Forever!!
Lmao to the people that think you should factor in other 1/1. No one wants a ben Simmons 1/1.
I’ve been in the hobby for 9 years. I’ve ripped multiple hobby boxes monthly the entire time. I have pulled exactly ONE 1/1 the ENTIRE NINE YEARS. Granted I’m not ripping cases of NT, but seeing my personal results doesn’t exactly give me faith that backyard hit these astronomical odds. Also, keep in mind most of the people who criticize the math are the same dummies who were sitting in high school algebra saying “this shit is so stupid, I’m never gonna use this in real life.” I wouldn’t put too much value on their criticism.
Obviously if there is a deal going down between panini and fanatics there is of course some sort of block on any new press releases that could affect the value of the deal?
The best way to describe this… the 1/155,000 is the same as picking a 16 game nfl parlay for 2 straight weeks. Which is impossible.
its not impossible... its improbable. there is a difference.
@@riptits2894 tell me when someone has picked 32 straight nfl games? And I don’t mean the money line…. I mean the actual spread. It has never happened
@@riptits2894 it’ll never happen.
What y’all need to understand is that the data they show is when each product if first made. The entire totality… as weeks after weeks after weeks after months after months go by, and a product has been out for 6 months, those odds are dramatically increased. You’re basically backing that top tier hit into a corner the longer a product is out. Now after said product has been out for a while and lets say there’s 500 cases left, Backyard goes out and sources 200 cases, there odds are almost 50% to pull that monster hit. WAY TOO MANY VARIABLES! And what you won’t hear is this the numbers they’re showing you is when a product is fresh off the press, because that’s when it’s the easiest to know how many cases were made.
You guys also assume the card actually goes into the product. All the math is bad if the case or card never hits the product run like you think it does.
Layton sports cards and barbell brakes are the only two people I break with and I've been breaking with late in for over 8 years and I never seen that many number one cards pulled by one breaker in an 8 month span it's impossible and they called that they were going to pull the lamelo ball logo man 101 he said it was in that case
SCI just uploaded a vid for a new app. Dude never stops
Layton sports didn't pull the LeBron triple logoman,backyard breaks did. They also won a Lamborghini from whatnot for pulling it.🙄
Let's completely ignore that panini didn't sell directly to the backyard lol
Agree about Panini "joyriding" and the other breaker with the Lamelo logo man saying they got the case from BB and then refusing to elaborate says an awful lot. Also, livestream was tremendous and Dippin' Daniel fucking rules.
Backyard smuts