Owner review 2016 vw Golf R
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- Shout out to Galpin VW, here in SoCal. Took care of the car, really treated me well, I appreciate it.
Basically my view or impression of the car after a solid month with it. As I mentioned most things are pretty nit picky, but they are the type of things you'd pick up on owning it for some time.
Mods are: tint, folding mirrors, Euro led tails, paddle shifters - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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just bought a VW GLI and i love it, however, this WILL be my next car, its beautiful man congrats
I'm with you there! Except mine is a lease. Love these machines!
Nice review and well spoken. Good luck!
You're absolutely right about the R inspiring confidence, especially in turns.
nice honest review
Nice review. Beautiful car!
I know that this video is really old but I'm just wondering where did you buy those shift paddles?
Hah it has been awhile but I still remember: www.s2tpp.com/VW.html
@@scharnscharnhorst7626 Thank you so much!!
That beast is pure beauty, congrats! (':
Great review. This is the sort of stuff people don't get to experience until they're already $40k, and a few months committed. If you want performance details, go watch every other Golf R video.
+larphraulen thank you, I appreciate it
Nice video. Great tip about the seat bolsters - just had my hip replaced.
+TheTussman
Thank you, I appreciate it. Its something that bugs me each day, but the pros outweigh the cons for me. I should say everyone is different. My brother remarked yesterday after about 100 miles trip that he loves the seats, they hold you upright and firm... others have commented being felt squeezed.
Man you're absolutly right about he confident part. I drive a MK7 GTI and even with it I feel so confidant with turns. Imagine the Golf R =D
Great review, I have a 2015 NAV/DCC in the white as well. A couple of features that I love that might not have noticed yet: Rain sensing and speed sensing wipers, Headlight cleaners, Radio/Nav unit senses hand proximity, Momentary Blinker for changing lanes. Mode Adaptive Exhaust (2 or 4 tips are used depending on Mode). I had a 2013 GTI DE and loved it, but climbing twisty roads is something special in the R. The R is not priced much more than a Loaded 2016 GTI with the PP and is worth the additional cost. I have 9K on mine, I average about 25-26 MPG, and I drive very enthusiastically. I can't recall thinking that GTI had a different turning radius, but I haven't noticed the R is any worse, however I came from a 2500 HD Crew Cab, so anything is better. And the most important thing, My 4 year old loves the car.
DSG tunes were available for the Mk6 Golfs. I had it installed and as a result rarely use manual mode. You may want to keep an eye out for it on the Mk7. This is after I also purchased a DSG steering wheel and paddle extenders.
Very nice Scharn. I bought the S3 instead of this car here in Canada. There were none of these available to test drive and would take several months to get. The S3 is very similar and had a moon roof which I wanted. Anyway they are both great cars. Enjoy your ride.
+david dykeman Congrats on the S3. I was very very close to getting one. After 3 months of searching for the Golf... i was getting irritated with the amount of work, and the fact I couldn't even test drive it; yet i could go to almost any audi dealership and have my pick of S3s. I really liked the S3, upgraded interior, sunroof, etc... i just needed a hatch for my life at the moment.
Scharn S, I preferred a hatch but for a little more cash I bought the S3. I still have my 07 GTI hatch which I love. Anyway...
+david dykeman damn you, wish I could work 2 cars at the moment. Get the best of both worlds then!
Liked the videos man. Do you mind sharing where you purchase those mods ? Euro LED tails and folding mirrors ?
Great review 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻just subscribed!!
Loving my Lapiz Blue 2016 which I've had for 2 weeks. Agreed completely with the turning radius. Totally caught me off guard with how wide the turning radius is compared to my previous 2012 GTI.
+William K, Definitely something off about it. Even now i'm not completely used to it, because the car feels like it should be more than it is.
I live in Santa Clarita and drove to Corona to Cardinale Way VW and bought mine at MSRP ($41,295). I have the DCC/Nav, Drivers Assistance package and the DSG. By the way you can unlock the center armrest so you can use it. VW locked it in place for some safety reason. What did you pay for the tail lamps and what was required to do it?
I was on the fence about getting the white R but the more I look at it, it's super clean. I like the limestone grey but it's hard to find a good deal in that color for some reason
Awesome review. I wish I would have seen this before purchasing mine. Some great tips. But I have the same, white DCC with DSG and Driver assist package. I am curious, how did you go about upgrading to the Euro LED lights? They look great! I'm in OC myself and wondering if you went somewhere locally to get it done, or did you order and install yourself? ...what's the cost?
+Samuel Mendez i did it myself, but if I had to it over i'd probably just pay to take it to pros. Eurocode in torrance been good guys, i'd check them out.
The steering is variable ratio.
So technically if you turn in a car park and turn the wheel fast it will have smaller lock.
Or put the steering in race mode.
3 questions.
1) where'd you get those paddles from?
2) did you install is yourself?
3) will these paddles work on the GTI?
Thankyou for taking your time.
love your car ❤
Thanks for the video my guy
Do you mind explaining how the loyalty/discount works? I'm planning to get a white '16 golf R next week. the dealer has marked it up by $2500!! Normally, I would look elsewhere but it has the right color and config i'm looking for. So, i'm trying to negotiate a deal with them. Also, how did you do the folding mirrors mod?
Is it posible to pick one up below MSRP? So far I've been told 3 month wait and full MSRP. I live in OC
Nice review!
Hey man, what paddle shifter extension is that ?? Brand? AMazon?? Thanks
are those s2t paddle shifters?
Deciding between this, or a 2017 sti limited, any opinions would be helpful
the turning radius is because of the AWD. It's notorious for AWD cars to handle great but have terrible turning radius.
also the 19" wheels are a contributing factor.
also the 19" wheels are a contributing factor.
I have A 2016 GTD and love the car but chose to have the checked cloth seats as I much prefer the look. You could always plug a usb socket into the cigarette lighter socket near the electronic hand brake.
Nice review, thumbs up. I wonder about the resale value if you try to flip it. I almost bought it in 2015.
+El Antifeca historically speaking the Rs have actually held their value very well. One of the other reasons I decided to pay that extra for the R. I had a chance to get an SRT magnum for few grand more, and settled on the RT instead... looked years later at the resale value; no question i should have gone with the SRT.
Thanks for review. I'm 4 months into this R-phoria with a LaPiz Blue Manual. I have two questions:
1. Looking to install the euro taillights. Found them on Deutsche AutoParts for $700. Is there another source? Did you install them yourself?
2. I recently noticed on a TH-cam review of the 2016 GTI's where the display includes a "performance monitor" not the less than helpful Think Blue monitor. I run the car at a local track, and would like to have the software updated. The dealers mentioned that no updates are currently available. Do you have a performance monitor in your car?
Thanks.
+jm sma I bought mine off ebay with the harness for I think $850-900. I did most of the install myself. Only thing I didn't do was the putting the trim pieces back on as I was going to the shop for APR intake, figured just let them do it. Personally, I'd just pay the shop to do it, let professionals handle it if i was to do it over again.
No R has the performance monitor... who knows when we'll get an update for that.
+jm sma You can get the Euro tailight on ebay from germany for $500. The link is in the "what did you do to your golf r today" on the mk7 R vwvortex forum, probably 10 pages back.
Vw, Infiniti ? Gold r or g37?
Do you know if the R has the same turning radius as the GTI? I have the 2016 GTI and thought the radius was rather good compared to my old Sentra.
+mkygod looked at the vw tech pages and they list them as being identical the GTI and R, 35.8ft. Which is what I felt when I drove the GTI, and the R. As I said in the review, that isn't a horrible turning radius... but it isn't great either, and for how the car drives the rest of the time it just feels like it should have tighter turning radius.
Manual seat adjustment for the passenger?
You can open up the center armrest console with a mod. There's a bolt screwed in to prevent it from opening
+epicjas0n Yes you are correct. I will probably do it eventually when I find the time.
Are those s2t paddles?
As a 2004 R32 owner I find your disappointment on turning radius interesting. It's the exact same as my car, which is respectable considering the '16 R's 4.4" longer wheelbase. Also the MK7 R is only 1.2" greater than a 2016 Civic and 4.8" greater than a 2015 STI. I'm curious to which car you're benchmarking against.
Hi, where did you get the paddle shift extensions from? I have a pair, but much prefer the ones you own!
S2T, google them
I'm facing the same problem with dealer markups (freakin' west coast). Do you know if the dealer you bought from would ship a factory order to anywhere in the country? Thanks!
+Diogo Taira I couldn't say for certain, but couldn't hurt to reach out. VW galpin here in LA, ask for Josh and see what they say.
You mention it has -ok- sound, check out the Helix Soundbox, it's a VW accessory 5 channel amp/DSP that is plug and play, subwoofer mounts in spare tire wheel well. Got it it in a new Jetta, made a huge difference with stock non-Fender audio (if yours didn't come with Fender audio)
I did the custom sub box on vortex forum; and that is is significantly deeper and harder hitting than than the helix. Given the ease, and expense, was a no brainer. It is a significant difference over stock. If you are a bass-head though a shall mount sub is never going to do it; but for me definitely fills in the bottom end. The fender though in general although clear, the imaging/soundstage isn't great.
Appreciate your review. I'm surprised by the lack of rear passenger leg room in this iteration - The front seats weren't in the full rear position? The 2 door MkV Golf was very roomy in the rear.
+Sek101 Its pretty good legroom. I'm 6"3 and although driver's seat wasn't all the way back, its pretty far back. In hindsight I wish I had gotten in on the passenger which would show rear legroom from a more typical front seat position.
I have a 16 golf r... and love it!!!
S2T paddles, google it!
Good video! In regards to the steering, you may have had it in sport mood which stiffens the steering. Switching to Eco mode can lighten the steering therefore feeling like the car is turning more? It may be a placebo thing.
In the US it is convenience, normal, and sport. convenience being Eco mode. And no, that doesn't make a difference.
Are you a heavy fella or are all leather seats inherent to creases like yours? As someone who has never owned leather seats before I am curious. For seats that are 5 weeks old, they look like they're a year or two old, imo.
Love the car though. I'm thinking of trading in my Kia Forte5 for one. Where did you get the folding mirrors? I saw some for $200 on AliExpress but I don't know about the legitimacy of that.
+supercooled got them on ali for $250 or so. Yeah real leather does that. Most manufacturers these days don't use "real" leather. Pros and Cons. Soft leather like this can easily be scratched as well.
Quick note, the center console can be unlocked. Watched the TH-cam video and did it myself on my own Golf R within 5 min. Good review though, my thoughts are the same.
The car has adaptive steering, hence why only 2 turns of the steering wheel lock to lock. Also, the turning radius is slightly worse because it is 4wd. Might be it, if you are used to other rwd cars for example. I find the turning radius excellent in mine though, a lot better than most cars ive driven.
Hey Scham: where did you get your tint done in socal? Looking for a good place to tint my car
+Kevin Fang eurovision. experts on vw audi
Nice critical review. It's an interesting car to consider. I love the '14 Subaru wrx hatch so I'm waiting on the '17-'18 model to come out but for not I'm
leasing a corolla s. The new '15 resigned wrx had such a long waiting period. Would you consider a Subaru hatch over this?
But for now*
+DreiZ Would I consider it, yes. I think an intelligent shopper should consider all options. Personally though I don't think I'd choose it. The golf's interior was a step up (in my opinion), I also liked its more understated character. The Suburu is a bit more "in your face".
Does the manual mode allow you to shift when ever you want even by holding red line or it will shift at a certain point?
+Top Gear is a Joke
I know it will downshift for you in manual mode, and I believe it will hold red line. Gotten close but i've never tried it for any extended period of time. DSG takes a little getting used to (understanding how it equates when it should be selecting the next gear ahead, or next gear down), once you get it it is hilariously fun.
Scharn Scharnhorst
Alright thanks.
great video! honest too, thanks.
how much crap have you fit in the rear?
+Guillermo Monroy a lot, this was a grille
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Ah cool. I've been trying to narrow down a fast car that also fits at least 1 passenger and a dog comfortably over long distances.
That pretty much eliminates most sports cars other than hatches or an SUV unfortunately...unless my dog would tolerate the trunk area of a vette! Lol. But anyway, golf R looks like a great choice if I can find one without getting slammed with markup
Where can I get those exact paddle shifters? They look great, planning on changing my current ones.
S2T paddleshifters, just google
if those seat are problematic for you, you should try Renault Clio (2004) with Extreme package where you need to use your hands to go out
It's true the turning radius should be quicker so you can make tighter turns.
Hello! Where you got those nice peddal shifters from?
+aztec8765 S2t paddles
Quick story: Sister is interested in a new SUV, i'm the car guy of the family so i go doing the dealership crawl looking at different cars; basically a nightmare everyone hates. We finally get to VW, and she likes the tiguan, but its too small (2017 tiguan going to be great!)... on the test drive with the salesman, he gets to me asking what car I have. I say a Golf, "what kind of golf" I reply with, 2016 Golf R, "omg you realize that car is damn supercar?!?!" etc etc etc. Me and the guy go back and forth about the car... my sis who thought I was crazy getting a VW who doesn't know what kind of car the R is was stunned.
The exact same thing happened to me at the LA autoshow. Everyone crowding around the R, before I know it i'm talking to 10 people about the car and the vw rep. In a way it comes down to top of the line VW, or bottom S audi. Neither is a wrong choice as anyone who gets a chance to experience them knows.
+Scharn Scharnhorst So what did you sister get? If nothing yet I like the XC60 & 90 for the new power they have. I needed a new small SUV cpl of yrs ago and went with the 2.0 ecoboost Escape just for the +250hp/+250tq. However, since gas is down thinking of trading back up to an SRT8 Grand Cherokee.
+lic2kil007 Driven several SRT8 Jeeps... they are awesome. The new XC90 is quite impressive, but was outside of the price range. Went and saw the fords, they just haven't upgraded the interiors in quite some time. Drove the new explorer, expensive, but once again bland interior, same with the edge. She ended up going with the Jeep Grand Cherokee V6. It is a solid, and popular choice with an impressive interior (when optioned up). Personally I thought the ride quality was meh, no power, and notorious for some electrical problems. I would have waited for the new Tiguan, but wasn't up to me.
+Scharn Scharnhorst Tell her to get a base model (as in under 40k) Land Rover Discovery sport
Lol, a super car?? Both of you idiots are know nothing VW fanboys
you're trying too hard.
Good review. Dealer tried to mark me up $5k in Santa Clarita I wasn't having it. Got it msrp.
+Mk7R_Chris Thank you. Shocked they had the balls to markup these cars so much... VW pasadena wanted 12k markup!! They don't me that with a straight faced, i almost keeled over laughing. It is a nice car, a very nice car, but it isn't THAT nice. I was very very close to an S3, the money factor wasn't the big deal. It was having a hatch is a bit more practical for me, and the idea of having a top of the line VW, or the baby Audi.
Just bought one... I was going to get 'just' a Polo GTi, but I got one of these on such a ridiculous deal I couldn't say no. Now wait for it to be built...
I'd say its worth it. Look there is a reason the GTI is renowned as a great car, because at its price point; phenomenal. But I've enjoyed the R, i've liked the moments people come up to me and ask about it (people that know about these things, usually sti or gti guys).
Nice whip!
Is their going to be a 2 door R
Needs more to set it apart from the GTI. Like gold rims and a giant STI wing!!🚗🚗🚘🚘
With your comment - the GTI is 90% of this car, would you take the GTI with sunroof if you had a choice today? I really like the R but the no sunroof sucks.
friend bought a 2017 gti... mother has SEL altrack; not a day goes by where i dont wish for a sunroof. Tough to say whether I would go for gti or not. I agree with people that you should never drive the R, if you are deciding, just go GTI.
I've got a mk7 as well its a 2015 gti Se with everything minus nav and auto climate and I must say I love it. Mine is in tornado red four door and dsg and it's the ultimate car period. It is the best all around car ever and the r version makes it even better(minus the price :/)
Just wondering what car you drove before this? My old Accord couldn't turn like my Golf does...
+Steve Goldy Dodge Magnum, had damn near the same turning radius and it was a much larger car. If not for the length that car was a dream in parking lots.
Nice ride. Glad to see people appreciate the R over the GTi. Great choice, enjoy it... because I can't afford one lol. Can't even find a used one they are rare and not many people selling them
Can´t you get the sunroof as an option in US spec R:s? Just ordered my R (wagon model/Euro spec) and if I wanted it I could get it for an extra 1500$.
nope, no sunroof whatsoever
hey buddy .. how much did you pay ? can you tell me please . i am looking for 1
Where did u get the euro tail lights? How much were they? Do they require re-wiring?
@Gary Sandhu Straight from the VW dealer here in Europe: € 450 (incl. tax, excl. shipping) - no re-wiring needed. Note that the European 'R'- LED tail lights are not tinted as mentioned in the vid. The back of the inside is black, where the US ones are white.
great review cheers. How's the car?
+timothy mountain so far so good. Just passed 4k miles. Thing is just a blast through the canyons, the confidence it inspires is shocking.
the click dials are deliberate to stop the dials swinging around when driving.
so the click is resistance so you can also feel the action rather than a loose sloppy design
I know the need for click resistance; but go drive an audi or benz; there is a subtle quality to how their knobs rotate that not only exude precision; but are precise.... all the while without having to sound cheap and plasticky
Scharn Scharnhorst
yeah like the Honda Civic its a nice feeling smooth
The on/off switch symbol in the center console is turned to the right instead of pointing up. That really bothers me...
I keep mine up straight and use the volume on the wheel (OCD) maybe but it does my nut
Your voice is like fresh cut springtime flowers, strewn over a babbling brook, with a hint of lemon.
What the fuck does that mean
@@EthanL21800 Zombie Summoner eh? - It's a quote from the Ed, Edd, and Eddy cartoon series and equates to simply - the video creator has an amazing voice over on his review.
Is the low ground clearance a pain in the ass at all? Do unpaved roads and potholes raise your heartbeat? Going over speed bumps etc..
i've yet to bottom out the car. As for how it feels, that was definitely a big concern for me; when i first got to take it for a drive before i bought it I was worried... until i hit the first bump, then pothole; and i realized I felt it, but the chassis and suspension did an amazing job of balancing everything out. It isn't a jarring sensation, you don't feel it in your teeth. At the same time it isn't a luxury cruiser either which would glide over things with nary any feeling. I'd say it is a good compromise.
Lol the DSG and traffic comment, I had 2 loaners with the DSG and I hated that continues up shifting of the DSG. I really dont understand they everyones getting the DSG...manuals are 10x better.
Your getting better fuel economy then my GTI for sure.... I've had a hard time getting 28 mpg highway babying the hell out of my car.
+MechRider89 DSG is faster, but I like the middle ground the DSG gives between an traditional auto and a manual car. It is a lot more engaging than a normal auto, giving you at times similar feel to a manual... all the while allowing you to go into easy mode and not handle shifting duties yourself.
Did them paddles come stock because In England the paddles are completely different?
+ethan Straughn433
No, that is another mod, S2T paddles. Expensive but very happy with the purchase as they blend in well, and are quite functional.
+Scharn Scharnhorst alright thanks man they look a lot nicer than the stock ones, might invest
+ethan Straughn433
I don't regret it. They are expensive. However, having more functionality out of the paddle shifters has made it a more enjoyable experience.
beauty! congrats......
Awd mechanism in the front makes it hard to make a steering system that has a wide radius, theres not enough room
Yesterday at a dealership in Cerritos, CA I saw a Golf R with, I shit you not, a $15,000 mark up.
what do you mean by mark ups? 12k above the MSRP price?
+21FILTHY yes, that is exactly what i mean.
+Scharn Scharnhorst What the hell! that's ridiculous!
you can turn the passenger air bag off?
maybe good if you have kids or old folk but illegal in Australia
It automatically turns off when no one is sitting in it. There is a pressure sensor.
FradiFradiFradiFradi
Yes but you can manually turn it off even if someone is in the passenger seat?
You mentioned the Golf R rode well over pot holes and didn't jar your teeth. Did you feel that the R rode better then the GTI? Was the R more comfortable ride? Thanks!
+Corey Grimm was it ask comfortable as a GTI, no. It was definitely a tad harsher. My R has DCC, and even on comfort is more harsh a ride then say a normal GTI. Now the trade off, when i put the R is sport mode, the suspension tuning I find fantastic. It feels glued to the ground, with body roll very limited. Feels much tigher than the GTI. Performance wise the gti is no slouch and definitely has more than enough pep for everyday stuff; only when you get a chance to drive close to the limits does the R really feel different
Thank you. I drove a 2016 R w/DCC this week then jumped into the 2016 GTI w/DCC for same run and best I can say is the R absorbed road bumps much better in all modes. VW Sales guy and I looked over everything and we noticed the R's components are heavier which I think makes the car feel more solid when driving. I think if there was a 7th gear on the R it would be the perfect mix between track and commuter car. Im on the fence between a R and a S3 for my daily commuter.
+Corey Grimm 100% agreement about needing a 7th gear. On road trips, cruising at 80mph it is a tad loud, and gas mileage suffers. I went back and forth on the S3 and the R for awhile. Chose the R because a hatch was a bit more practical to me.
+Scharn Scharnhorst What would you say your combined is commuting? Testing between the S3 and
R, R revs a bit higher is 6th then S3, but looking at gear ratios, they
don't seem much different. I do about 50 miles round trip HWY per day.
+Corey Grimm I average 27 which i'm more than happy with given my commute is freeway/traffic mostly. At 55 to 60 not hard to get over 30.
I can't believe you liked the s3 interior so much... to be honest i thought it was so bland and cheap looking... I was thoroughly impressed with the golf's interior
Maybe i exaggerated a bit with the S3's interior, but it is nicer than the golf. It wouldn't got the S3's interior bland nor is it exciting or cutting edge. The soft lighting in it is better, the climate control knobs and lights are better, just all sorts of little things around the car.
how did u get the euro taillights?
+FourCl0uds ebay
Where did you get those paddle shifters?
S2T paddle shifters
All I can say is after owning two of these cars loaded! Its a SUPERIOR car in its class short of a S3 (with that MILLION dollar look:( No complaints after the 2010 model all issues fixed FINALLY:) drive it to work as a daily older person driver:)
Is the R awd or is that only on certain years??
+dondon4720 The MK7 golf R is AWD
How about the acceleration? Some complain over the turbo lag..
+YM M Definitely turbo lag. To me though it just makes the driving experience more engaging and more fun. I've driven other turbo cars that have WAY more turbo lag, remember this thing gets most of its torque around 1800 to 2000 RPM; so pretty low compared to most turbo cars. It makes it engaging that you have to realize where you are in the RPM band.
What makes it fun is the pull of the car at about 1800 RPM. It comes on quickly and before you know it you are going faster than you thought. It just flies.
I have Toyota Blade Master: 3.5L 206kW V6, in a front wd Corolla / Auris body. Sure, it's got its limitations, but the acceleration under about 2,500 rpm is as good as in the '16 Golf R that I also just bought. The big engine torque from a fairly blunt basic car, matches the turbo lag in the R.
Ps. The Blade can only get 0-62 in 6.5 seconds. Obviously the R's party piece happens above 2,500rpm.
The power icon moving with the volume dial drives me nuts on a daily basis. I only adjust the volume from the wheel because seeing the icon on a 45 degree angle is just infuriating
hahaha damn dude that is OCD
I'm not normally that bad with stuff like that. This just shits me off. I mean, when you turn the dial on the climate control dials the buttons stay stationary, why not do the same for the volume dial?
Funny after you mentioned this, i asked a friend and it actually bugs him as well. I'm considering myself lucky that it isn't a pet peeve for me.
Just bought a 2016 with 45k miles. Hows your R holding up 4 years later?
Unfortunately I sold it, and I do miss it a lot. They hold their value so when someone offered me 33k for it with 17k miles... and coupled with the fact I only really drove it on the weekends when I could. The reality is my commute is pretty heavy traffic each day in LA and the R just is not meant for that, and I felt a disservice each time I would subject it to that.
I went with a Kia stinger gt, which has been a more comfortable cruiser. It is NOT the golf r.
@@scharnscharnhorst7626 They definitely hold their value, especially ones with under 50k miles as I am well aware haha. Would you say the stinger is a better commuter than the R and that the R is a better weekend ride/ better overall sports car? Just curious on your thoughts.
@@statrap122 yes absolutely. The stinger will eat miles up like it is nothing. V6 has plenty of punch around town and at speed. The 8 speed is very smooth, which is great in traffic, and coupled with adaptive cruise you basically can set and forget. However, I have some of the best canyon driving around me where Porsche everyone takes their cars and the stinger is nowhere near the R there. More body roll which is expected, no dsg which you feel, and especially in undulating corners the stinger becomes... hard to describe but loose. So you don’t carry the same confidence.
get another type of charger. a 12V power socket one. I have one in my golf and it fits perfectly in the cup holder when its not being used :)
Almost bought this car last week but deal-breaker for me was lack of spare tire. Flat fix sealant is not a solution I was willing to accept for long trips.
+Ray Custodio damn, seems like a relatively petty deal breaking item. Its 2016... you got cell phones, AAA, vw assistance, vw car net, etc. I imagine you must be expecting to do some pretty remote trips, quite often for that to be of such major concern.
+Scharn Scharnhorst
I travel from DC to Boston, NYC, and Florida. Check the link on the Golf Mark 7 forum about the sealant. www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7897
+Ray Custodio I had read that before. I bought the car knowing everything about it, including that it did not come with a spare. What is odd is mine came with kit/can of compressed air, which isn't filled with sealant (at least not any where on the bottle or kit). Sure that it would work in a pinch, with a small hole for a short distance. Either way that commute happens to be in a first world country, in one of the most densely populated regions on earth... Though i'm sure a spare could always be added if purchased separately and with some minor modifications. But hey I would opt 3rd party roadside assistance package; probably get 3 years at least of coverage for the cost of one spare.
+Ray Custodio You made a $40k purchase decision based on a $120 dollar spare tire? Because that's all it is, you can buy the spare yourself. U dun goofed hard
Scharn the bad turning radius is because the AWD system.
I am a VW sales consultant and I never heard of dealers charging 12k over the msrp...
+mercguy658
Then you must not be a forum goer... surprising giving your line of work. Hardly unusual it seems in CA, Texas, and New York these kind of markups. VW Pasadena wanted 12k, VW Santa Monica 8k... all were much closer to me and would have happily bought from them had they not been slime. Forums are full of horror stories, and i've got my own experiences as validation of that nightmare.
Sorry that the seats are difficult to deal with :s
I ran into this video from related reviews and I gotta say with budget still playing a role, it'll be a tough call between a GTI vs a Golf R after my 2016 GLI's lease ends in 32 months. I'm trying to keep my monthly payments low but I'd like to buy off a vehicle at the end of the term. I can already predict that NOBODY will lease a Golf R without reaching Audi A5 territory vs the GTI which is more reasonable but you miss the 4Motion and extra tech the R carries with only $5-7k extra.
I got my GLI from Prestige in Burbank who in turn, got a great rate from Neftin VW in Thousand Oaks. Because this is my first car and I've only had 6 revolving lines of credit (credit cards, 3 with 0 balance), they (the dealership and my broker) MADE sure I got the car after VW Credit was busting our balls.
I'm mostly in the cesspool that is East Hollywood. I'll only take my car out and open it up on the weekends.. Sooooo...maybe a GTI would work out better for me?
I plan on moving to Canyon Country in 5-7 years which was why I wanted the R if possible. Any opinions/advice for a young man saving for a house and studying/working full time at 24?
To me its the GTI and it isn't even that close. With the GTI you will likely save some money on insurance, it gets significantly better gas mileage, and you will get a better deal on one; BUT it also gives you 90 to 95% the same experience.
You really have to drive at the limits to feel the difference between them.
Scharn Scharnhorst I appreciate the insight. Especially when you're 24 and living in LA, insurance KILLS! Thanks for the very prompt reply, Scharn!
Deal breakers for me- no sun roof (not many of us are tracking a $40k car out the gate so I don't care about weight up top) , no arm rest console (open it and lose the ratcheting arm rest), and no spare or stock space for a spare (go subwoofer less and buy the audi spare kit? no). Great car mostly but for the cash those 3 compromises were to much.
Alex Jamison I agree. Missing the sunroof. And power folding side mirrors.
Turning radius is really not great.
As there is a limitation due to the 19" wheels.
The 18" can turn in a bit tighter.
But I got use to it... If you know you have a turning radius like the Titanic, you can adapt your driving 😁😁
But I'm still wondering why the US models can't open the Arm rest?
Makes no sense to me ...
Enjoy your R 👍
+Oli G
The turning bugs me from time to time as the car really inspires such confidence with its handling, and then to suddenly find yourself in a parking lot... just an odd feeling.
been trying to get this car, but the mark ups on it are crazy.
+MyMac2011 Definitely a pain. Why I completely understand people who would go the S3 route for that alone.
question, after you put a deposit on your R how long did it take to get the car, also was there any other cars in front of you for the wait time?
I didn't order. A guy has a spreadsheet which was tracking dealer shipments and I knew when dealers were going to get what cars and when. Reached out a head of time to one and they made it work.
Scharn Scharnhorst who is this guy? how do I find the spreadsheet?
join vwvortex forums and go the golf r area for the spreadsheet.
Scharn Scharnhorst That's a sweet little tip, thanks! Now do I wait for the 2018 refresh with the glass cockpit thingamajiggit.....
PS, Although the dealer says no test drives they let me drive it.
How has the car been treating you after nearly 1 year? I'm heavily considering the 2017 Golf R. Have you dealt with any types of issues?
For me personally ZERO issues. Not one, been perfect from the first day. I will say I know another R owner whose put on 18k miles in a year, which is about 9k more than me at the moment... he has experienced some rattling issues. But he also said he heard it early on in his ownership experience. Other than that, no real mechanical issues.