Thor revived Kratos for 2 reasons: 1) Odin wanted Atreus' cooperation and killing his Dad before there was bad blood between them would backfire 2) Thor was upset that his sons were killed but mostly wanted to know they died to a strong foe. A worthy death. He wanted to see how strong Kratos was but knew he wanted peace and was holding back. When he sees Kratos is on his level he is satisfied that his sons died to a truly strong foe.
While I completely agree with your 2 reasons, why did you say thor "revived" kratos? Kratos was K.Od here not killed so there was no need to revive him. Moreover thor or his hammer doesn't have the power to revive someone so he can't do it even if he wanted to. Also another reason thor chose to continue the fight was to see the ghost of sparta. Thor was kinda pissed off that kratos was acting like a calm & reasonable person so he intentionally prolonged the fight to bring out the monster inside kratos. Thor too is called a destroyer so it makes sense he would be annoyed at the way kratos was acting at that time.
@@sivasuriyan2620 have you ever heard of overthinking? death screen=kratos dead, thor hits kratos in the head, kratos's healthbar is completely gone and the deathscreen appears, now does it make any sense that thor can just revive people from a fatal injury in his head, ofcourse not, but this is a game about magic, and other stuff which does not make any logical real life sense
@@Adi-mk2lq it's more like your not thinking enough. If we go by your logic then even random undead monsters can empty out kratos health bar and bring the dead screen to kratos. Does that mean those monsters are able to kill kratos who is literally a god? That's not how game lore works.
Thor lived up to his legends in the lore. The All-Father’s bloody butcher & bane of the giants. I love that he’s not a mindless brawler, but an experienced warrior. Parrying the Leviathan axe with the Mjölnir recall was too clean. Kratos the goat, but Thor was in complete control of this fight.
Kratos was holding back the whole and not really actually until the very end... But if we add the 2nd fight, it's kratos and it's not close. The 1st fight I struggled, 2nd? Washed him and all father
Did you not pay attention to the fight?, the whole time kratos tries to get him to stop fighting, meaning kratos wasn’t taking it seriously. We all know a fully raged out bloodthirsty kratos would skin Thor alive.
Yeah, well Thor is by far the greatest warrior in the nine realms. And the physically strongest aesir, just read his lore. He killed Kratos, and brought him back to life. And shattered his shield, even after the fight is over Kratos is visibly way more injured than Thor is. Edit: Thor is also extremly durable, he took that punch from Kratos. Aswell as the axe to the stomach, and tanked several punches during this fight. Even in the last fight, after having been poisioned by the Leviathan axe. And having fought against Jormie, whilst being drunk. He could still fight Kratos.
@@TheTrueBazooka He was an arrogant ass who realized way too late that Kratos was very similar to Thor from a combat perspective and he was NOT trying to fight Thor so I have no clue why it took losing an arm for him to get serious! XD
As a huge mma fan this is some of the best yt content I’ve seen in a while, absolutely love that you’re breaking down my favorite video game characters fights like it’s a ufc fight.
@@TheHellyeahmentrue but kratos had the upper hand no matter how you look at it, if I was Thor after that fight I wouldn't wanna fight him anymore either, was that his main reason for stopping? No but I'm sure it made the decision a lot easier
@@TheHellyeahmen I know, I played it. Doesn’t change the fact that Thor was initially going for the kill, as opposed to their first fight in the beginning where he was just distracting Kratos and wanting to see how powerful he was
@@sptheprodigy_0398Kinda, it’s not like it matters. Thor was weakened by the Jormungandr poison and blinded by his anger making him reckless. We never see Peak Kratos vs Peak Thor.
Genuinely loving this man. Was very impressed at how entertaining this is. The slow-mo’s really capture the power behind some of these hits as well. Can’t wait for round 2 in Asgard!
I never knew how much full video game fights breakdowns in slow mo with play by play would be interesting. Mans stumbled on a gold mine of videos he can do.
6:30 you can see kratos totally holding for the duration of the entire fight when he almost loses controls to his rage after the Rhook, he didn't even use spartan rage through the entire fight
My absolute favourite thing about Kratos is that he can't fly, and when he's falling, he'll still beat the bricks off of you. Like when he grabbed Baldur by the arm in 2018, and started repeatedly punching him in the face as they fell, fuck do I love it. To continue that with the Thor fight was just perfection.
These fight breakdowns dope af bro! However in all honesty i thought their battle/battles would be way more impactful than they were. I was thinking whenever they were to clash the realms would feel this exchange just from these two power being thrown around at each other. I get thor was kinda over it by ragnarok but still.. nonetheless still some great fights.
@lordyoda9382 highly agreed ! It was way more epic. All the elements worked in it's favor. Coming off a long hiatus in the franchise, Bauldur was the first big threat in a long time
@@bobbywilliams4438 Yeah, he sure was. Being invulnerable to anything and being actual immortal makes it somewhat difficult for Kratos. I was surprised that there wasn’t a button mashing beatdown in Ragnarok, Remember how Kratos would pinned baldur down and then would just beat the bloody shit out of him? That was my favorite part.
I would’ve loved to have seen more spectacle in their fights, but I still love the direction they took. The battle in Midgard is just cinema, with so many iconic moments, from the revival to the weapons colliding. Their last fight outside the Great lodge felt much more personal & the culmination of Thor’s arc, tiptoeing between being a merciless destroyer & a depressed alcoholic mess of a man. The choreography, Thor going full Led Zepplin mode, & the final clash never fails to hype me up. Plus the voice acting & that music was 🔥
I think the best part about these videos is we see why Kratos EARNS the title “God of War” he doesn’t have special powers or anything, he’s just a fantastic and controlled fighter
Imagine killing the ghost of sparta who wiped out a patheleon of gods just to revive him and keep fighting, Thor had so much potential but it was all wasted
@@EternaITruths it actually makes sense that he got killed man. They had to show a rival for kratos. They had to show what kind of power he's dealing with this time. Knowing that, would make the second fight much more epic cause you don't know what's gonna happen. And let's be honest man, kratos got killed many times in the Greek era... Why do you keep insisting on making him like he's some sort of Galactus
In terms of fight performance, I agree. However, as with nearly all of the Kratos fights in the GoW games, he is basically always holding back. So, while it's true that Thor was giving him a run for his money in this fight, we still have to remember that Kratos is always using the Spider-Man fighting style of trying not to instantly kill his enemies with one hit. I like to think though that Kratos and Thor are similar in overall power since Thor did smack the snake monster so hard he sent him backwards through time.
Imagine some dude in the UFC knocking bro out cold and then dumping ice water on them to get to round 5 in the championship bout lmfao That right hook from Kratos could have been a Pantera album cover
This is one of those fights where I honestly don't know if Kratos had gone all in from the jump if it would have made a difference... I mean. Yes. It's obvious that Thor got his first and only W against Kratos because the Spartan was still measuring him out. Instead of going all in. But. There's reasons behind my logic. Kratos and Thor share a similar if not the exact same Battle Mentality. They fight with their inherited reflexes and hard earned experiences They just...go with it. Secondly. Thor is the only God Heimdall hesitated going against. And I don't think it's just because of his vulgar intentions. I think it's a mix between one and these intentions. Heimdall knows Thor will do whatever it takes to do what he wants to. As long as Odin permits it. Third. Thor is literally the version of Kratos that either never let go of his vengeance Or chose blind obedience to Zeus and Athena just to satisfy his blood lust in their name. Kratos recognized that in Thor and knew the danger he could bring. It's...a really well written fight. Literally figuratively and characteristically.
It definitely woulda made a difference. As powerful and skilled as they both are, I think there's enough evidence here to show that Kratos was a bit stronger and he was far more skilled. You can see it in both fights. If Kratos went all out or used rage mode at all, he'd for sure win the fight a lot easier.
@@dylanhopkins5934 One of Kratos' biggest tactics in the new God of War is to test his opponents strength. He uses a much more open guard while fighting them and trading blows, all while learning their fighting style and habits. Kratos' good defense and insane endurance is why this tactic is so successful for him. However, the overall fighting power of a god seems to be decided by their nature and the role they play. Nature varies from god, but Kratos' nature in the old games was to destroy. In the new God of War, Kratos has changed his ways to be a father and a protector. Kratos' rejection of his old nature weakens the old authority and abilities he has held as the god of war. Thor is very similar to Kratos. He has extensive experience fighting and killing gods and has accepted his role and nature as a destroyer just as Kratos once did. So when Kratos clashes with Thor in this fight as the Ghost of Sparta, he is on the receiving end of nearly every significant strike and throw. Kratos just can't bring himself to go back to his old ways and fight Thor to kill him like the old Kratos would have. This weakened resolve and doubt is exactly the reason why the solution wouldn't have been Spartan rage. Kratos' loss here in the fight was not because of inferiority to Thor as a warrior, but because of his poor sense of self and his inability to properly trust in and conform to his new role/nature as a god. This gets shown when they clash again later in the game and Kratos is much more resolved than the start of the game.
It's interesting to examine this like an MMA round, but I want to point out that Thor wasn't trying to win. He was trying to push and aggravate Kratos, to get his measure. And he did, for better or worse. Thor got what he wanted out of that fight. IMO, just for finessing Kratos, I'd give Thor the win overall, even moreso since a lot of Kratos's earlier punches didn't even affect him. In a different scenario, he wouldn't have revived Kratos.
I understand that there is a formula to find the winner. But if we're being objective, Thor was barely trying to hurt Kratos by taking a backseat most of the fight. He didn't even care too much when Kratos was going at him.
I might do the DBZ Games if they have good cutscenes. But if you want to see anime break downs go to SensibleSaiyan. He's is the Goat with the anime breakdowns
The fact that Kratos didnt resort to L3 + R3 in Thor first fight speaks volume because if he did then the fight would be go vastly different and more environment would have been destroyed instead. I say, Kratos did pretty well without resort to Spartan Rage against Thor like he did with Baldur. Let's remember that he didnt have his blade of chaos against Thor first fight either.
To be fair, Thor wasn’t trying to out right kill Kratos, like he was in the final battle. All he really wanted was to see Kratos’s full strength which is why I think he wasn’t too active. After he got that, he left.
In the comics it is stated that kratos’ power is increased when he posses the blades of chaos, with that in mind I believe this is why he lost to Thor since he didn’t have his blades in the first fight.
I believe he lost the first fight not because of the blades, but because of his necessity to hold back long enough for thor to overpower him, hence why thor wanted to see what the hype about kratos was about.
As far as raw power goes I’ll say Thor and Kratos are about on the same level. Kratos has allot more fighting experience from what I’ve seen and researched but Thor has the advantage in he never stopped fighting. Kratos has been years at this point in a peaceful lifestyle where as Thor and other asgardians have always lived for the fight, in my opinion that’s the only reason he beat kratos in the 2nd round
Also keep in mind Thor wasn’t gonna finish Kratos off aka he was holding back because of Odin; If you notice in the rematch Thor says “ NO MORE F-ING GAMES…and this time I’m allowed to kill you! “ meaning Odin gave him permission to finish Kratos off in the rematch and not in the first encounter.
Even if kratos died during this fight, we all know he would fight his way out of whatever underworld he would be out in. Dying to Kratos is basically just a timeout to regroup and gain strength. In fact every time he has died, he has come back stronger. If I was the Asier, I would make sure to tell everyone NOT to kill Kratos..out of pure fear.
Just from a game point of view I hate the resurrection. Only because the first time playing I hadn't taken a single hit and could have sworn I made the quick time. On repeat plays I just let go.
We definitely know Thor was holding back throughout this fight. Hell, outright killing Kratos by stopping his heart, only to boot it back up, shows that he wasn't going for killing blows. Now, maybe Kratos wasn't either, but we know this fight isn't either of them at peak.
Yeah Kratos got caught slipping in the second round. He was absolutely destroying him in the 1st round and did pretty good in the 3rd round as well, but his hesitance to really go for the kill like he normally would do was what cost him. Thor peeped that. It was a couple times where he didn't really go in like he could have. He honestly coulda killed him here (2:30) with an axe to the face like he did Magni. And here (5:45) he did a clever move to distract Thor but he didn't follow through for another attack right away after doing it. When he fought Baldur for example the first time, and hit him with a tree, he immediately ran after him for another attack. I do think a couple of the points are a lil off. Thor should only have 3 melee strikes in the 2nd round and he should only get 1 throw for the 1st round. I don't think his initial strike should count as a throw as well. I also don't really understand how the final results of the scoring works. How's round 1 and 3 a 10-8 for example? Kratos had far more strikes than Thor. Anyways, another great breakdown! Can't wait for the next fight! Kratos goes in!
Highly appreciated the insight! I understand many of your points. I can't be mad if either 1 or 3 ended up as a 10-9 on people's cards, which would favor Thor. This was a close one for me so I love hearing how others would judge it. Thanks for the feedback, it's much appreciated!
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Thor revived Kratos for 2 reasons: 1) Odin wanted Atreus' cooperation and killing his Dad before there was bad blood between them would backfire 2) Thor was upset that his sons were killed but mostly wanted to know they died to a strong foe. A worthy death. He wanted to see how strong Kratos was but knew he wanted peace and was holding back. When he sees Kratos is on his level he is satisfied that his sons died to a truly strong foe.
Or Thor doesn't want Kratos going to Valhalla. 🤣🤣🤣
3) kratos was cursed to walk the earth forever, so essentially "fate" made him come back too
While I completely agree with your 2 reasons, why did you say thor "revived" kratos? Kratos was K.Od here not killed so there was no need to revive him. Moreover thor or his hammer doesn't have the power to revive someone so he can't do it even if he wanted to.
Also another reason thor chose to continue the fight was to see the ghost of sparta. Thor was kinda pissed off that kratos was acting like a calm & reasonable person so he intentionally prolonged the fight to bring out the monster inside kratos. Thor too is called a destroyer so it makes sense he would be annoyed at the way kratos was acting at that time.
@@sivasuriyan2620 have you ever heard of overthinking? death screen=kratos dead, thor hits kratos in the head, kratos's healthbar is completely gone and the deathscreen appears, now does it make any sense that thor can just revive people from a fatal injury in his head, ofcourse not, but this is a game about magic, and other stuff which does not make any logical real life sense
@@Adi-mk2lq it's more like your not thinking enough. If we go by your logic then even random undead monsters can empty out kratos health bar and bring the dead screen to kratos. Does that mean those monsters are able to kill kratos who is literally a god?
That's not how game lore works.
“Kratos is questioning why he took this fight on short notice” hahahaha
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Thor lived up to his legends in the lore. The All-Father’s bloody butcher & bane of the giants. I love that he’s not a mindless brawler, but an experienced warrior. Parrying the Leviathan axe with the Mjölnir recall was too clean. Kratos the goat, but Thor was in complete control of this fight.
I felt the same watching this. Thor is way more crafty than he's given credit for
Kratos was holding back the whole and not really actually until the very end... But if we add the 2nd fight, it's kratos and it's not close. The 1st fight I struggled, 2nd? Washed him and all father
Did you not pay attention to the fight?, the whole time kratos tries to get him to stop fighting, meaning kratos wasn’t taking it seriously. We all know a fully raged out bloodthirsty kratos would skin Thor alive.
Yeah, well Thor is by far the greatest warrior in the nine realms. And the physically strongest aesir, just read his lore. He killed Kratos, and brought him back to life. And shattered his shield, even after the fight is over Kratos is visibly way more injured than Thor is.
Edit: Thor is also extremly durable, he took that punch from Kratos. Aswell as the axe to the stomach, and tanked several punches during this fight. Even in the last fight, after having been poisioned by the Leviathan axe. And having fought against Jormie, whilst being drunk. He could still fight Kratos.
@@BigJugsRule92
Kratos himself disagrees with you. Kratos fanboys can’t accept that he can get his butt kicked.
Now you gotta do Kratos v Heimdal
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Bro looking at the cutscenes, I can't even remember himdal landing 2 punches
@@TheTrueBazooka He was an arrogant ass who realized way too late that Kratos was very similar to Thor from a combat perspective and he was NOT trying to fight Thor so I have no clue why it took losing an arm for him to get serious! XD
As a huge mma fan this is some of the best yt content I’ve seen in a while, absolutely love that you’re breaking down my favorite video game characters fights like it’s a ufc fight.
Thank you! I couldn't pass up a chance to combine gaming and MMA.
The weapon throw clash probably one of the coldest things I’ve ever seen in a game.
I’d love to see a breakdown of Kratos and Thor’s Ragnarok fight in Asgard since Thor was actually trying to kill him that time
Facts. I'm going to have to revisit that fight and add those rounds
only in the beginning. In the end Thor gave up willingly but not because he couldn't fight anymore
@@TheHellyeahmentrue but kratos had the upper hand no matter how you look at it, if I was Thor after that fight I wouldn't wanna fight him anymore either, was that his main reason for stopping? No but I'm sure it made the decision a lot easier
@@TheHellyeahmen I know, I played it. Doesn’t change the fact that Thor was initially going for the kill, as opposed to their first fight in the beginning where he was just distracting Kratos and wanting to see how powerful he was
@@sptheprodigy_0398Kinda, it’s not like it matters. Thor was weakened by the Jormungandr poison and blinded by his anger making him reckless. We never see Peak Kratos vs Peak Thor.
Dude! Winning content formula! Take this and run with it, can't wait for more.
Thank you! I'm going to try lol. I Appreciate the comment
Such a unique style of video and its just so cool, keep it up
Swear, I’ve never seen a video like this. Complete originality. Subbed because of these two videos.
Genuinely loving this man. Was very impressed at how entertaining this is. The slow-mo’s really capture the power behind some of these hits as well. Can’t wait for round 2 in Asgard!
I never knew how much full video game fights breakdowns in slow mo with play by play would be interesting. Mans stumbled on a gold mine of videos he can do.
6:30 you can see kratos totally holding for the duration of the entire fight when he almost loses controls to his rage after the Rhook, he didn't even use spartan rage through the entire fight
I’m enjoying these UFC analysis styles vids man, would love to see more big fights done. Got yourself a sub from me.
Appreciate it!
My absolute favourite thing about Kratos is that he can't fly, and when he's falling, he'll still beat the bricks off of you. Like when he grabbed Baldur by the arm in 2018, and started repeatedly punching him in the face as they fell, fuck do I love it. To continue that with the Thor fight was just perfection.
Keep the series going, we watching bro👀
Thor on that Mark Hunt energy
More like Roy Nelson
😂😂
Sweet. Was hoping I'd see another fight breakdown. Nice job 👍
Kratos Vs. Heimdall ASAP! Although all heimdall truly did was bob and weave so its a clear cut winner but I still wanna see you make it.
Agreed. It's mainly one sided, But I think I'm going to make it anyway lol
@@CrueltyFreeD Bet, its also a great analysis of Heimdalls weave game because bro’s technique is something out of this world for sure.
Keep it up man. Love this kinda stuff. :)
More pleaseeee keep this going! Great vids bro
Man these videos are on another level keep up
6:21 you can if you go back later in the game actually find the tooth
Dude, I'm digging this concept, it's super fun. Take my subscribe, hope to see more of this.
0:39 that's an environmental smash since it destroyed the roof of Kratos' house
Love the videos man, great work!
W video dude. Genuine work put into this. You got a sub from me
Great Video
This is fire🔥
These fight breakdowns dope af bro! However in all honesty i thought their battle/battles would be way more impactful than they were. I was thinking whenever they were to clash the realms would feel this exchange just from these two power being thrown around at each other. I get thor was kinda over it by ragnarok but still.. nonetheless still some great fights.
Ngl, for some reason I enjoy the Baldur fight than this? What about you?
@lordyoda9382 highly agreed ! It was way more epic. All the elements worked in it's favor. Coming off a long hiatus in the franchise, Bauldur was the first big threat in a long time
@@bobbywilliams4438 Yeah, he sure was. Being invulnerable to anything and being actual immortal makes it somewhat difficult for Kratos. I was surprised that there wasn’t a button mashing beatdown in Ragnarok, Remember how Kratos would pinned baldur down and then would just beat the bloody shit out of him? That was my favorite part.
@lordyoda9382 yes that raw feeling when Kratos is beating his shit in is impeccable
I would’ve loved to have seen more spectacle in their fights, but I still love the direction they took. The battle in Midgard is just cinema, with so many iconic moments, from the revival to the weapons colliding. Their last fight outside the Great lodge felt much more personal & the culmination of Thor’s arc, tiptoeing between being a merciless destroyer & a depressed alcoholic mess of a man. The choreography, Thor going full Led Zepplin mode, & the final clash never fails to hype me up. Plus the voice acting & that music was 🔥
I really fuck with this style of video. Treating video game fights like an actual sanctioned event
the axe to the stomach should’ve been bonus points since it has a poison that’s very deadly to thor since it’s from jorm
bro fojnd the winnint content formula im bouta binge these videos
Loved the concept keep at it
Sept 19 i get to enjoy this gem once again!
the 2nd fight between kratos and thor would be interesting
how this guy only has 5k subs will forever be a mystery
Yes!! Now u gotta do the second fight.
Coming up soon lol. I appreciate the time y'all putting in to watch
You could do so much with this concept keep it up man
So glad this is becoming some sort of a series. Saw the first one and loved it.
What a video! Top tier stuff
Really enjoy These !!! Hope you continue to cover this series!
Keep this up bro, not long before the algorithm licks this vid up I'm sure of it
I think the best part about these videos is we see why Kratos EARNS the title “God of War” he doesn’t have special powers or anything, he’s just a fantastic and controlled fighter
amazing vid idea i think these types of videos will really shoot up ur channel bro
This is so good man! Keep it up!
Nice video mate. You've got one more subscriber
Im defo coming back to this once i play gow ragnarok
0:08 I like that round stats
This series is goated you could totally apply this to so many games and movies
Hey dude love this style video, looking forward to more of your content
2:39 that single frame of "oh shit" from Kratos 😂
I just subscribed after watching this video. Amazing analysis. I personally like thor 1st fight than his 2nd fight at the end of the game.
These videos are so fun!
Imagine killing the ghost of sparta who wiped out a patheleon of gods just to revive him and keep fighting, Thor had so much potential but it was all wasted
Thank you for making it for me! Im so happy you read my comment (or not lmao)
Im new but I'm working on it lol thanks for watching
3:43 not ko'd my man. The director confirmed thor killed kratos in that moment and brought him back
That’s just terrible writing and makes no sense, regardless of what they said. Kratos would never be killed that easily, he was knocked out.
@@EternaITruthscan’t argue wit the one who made the game bro they he got killed and brought back
@@EternaITruths it actually makes sense that he got killed man. They had to show a rival for kratos. They had to show what kind of power he's dealing with this time. Knowing that, would make the second fight much more epic cause you don't know what's gonna happen.
And let's be honest man, kratos got killed many times in the Greek era... Why do you keep insisting on making him like he's some sort of Galactus
@@EternaITruths
“Kratos would never be killed that easily”
lol. Lmao. His first death was from a pointy rock.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495kratos was mortal before he got retconned into a demi god
You deserve WAY more views
In terms of fight performance, I agree. However, as with nearly all of the Kratos fights in the GoW games, he is basically always holding back. So, while it's true that Thor was giving him a run for his money in this fight, we still have to remember that Kratos is always using the Spider-Man fighting style of trying not to instantly kill his enemies with one hit.
I like to think though that Kratos and Thor are similar in overall power since Thor did smack the snake monster so hard he sent him backwards through time.
Yes, but Thor was holding back as well.
Great Video
I've always loved the "Dumbass!" when Kratos gets whacked in the back of the head with Mjollnir.
This is quality! 🔥
Me trying to sleep then a good video comes out
Much appreciated bro
Sick ass vid, can you do their second fight?
Ah TH-cam... how did you know i needed this in my life? 😂
Might have to sub tbh.
Much appreciated. Thanks for watching
Imagine some dude in the UFC knocking bro out cold and then dumping ice water on them to get to round 5 in the championship bout lmfao
That right hook from Kratos could have been a Pantera album cover
Thor fr gave the one and only god of war foxdei
This is one of those fights where I honestly don't know if Kratos had gone all in from the jump if it would have made a difference...
I mean.
Yes. It's obvious that Thor got his first and only W against Kratos because the Spartan was still measuring him out.
Instead of going all in.
But. There's reasons behind my logic.
Kratos and Thor share a similar if not the exact same Battle Mentality.
They fight with their inherited reflexes and hard earned experiences
They just...go with it.
Secondly.
Thor is the only God Heimdall hesitated going against.
And I don't think it's just because of his vulgar intentions.
I think it's a mix between one and these intentions.
Heimdall knows Thor will do whatever it takes to do what he wants to.
As long as Odin permits it.
Third.
Thor is literally the version of Kratos that either never let go of his vengeance
Or chose blind obedience to Zeus and Athena just to satisfy his blood lust in their name.
Kratos recognized that in Thor and knew the danger he could bring.
It's...a really well written fight.
Literally figuratively and characteristically.
It definitely woulda made a difference. As powerful and skilled as they both are, I think there's enough evidence here to show that Kratos was a bit stronger and he was far more skilled. You can see it in both fights. If Kratos went all out or used rage mode at all, he'd for sure win the fight a lot easier.
@@dylanhopkins5934 One of Kratos' biggest tactics in the new God of War is to test his opponents strength. He uses a much more open guard while fighting them and trading blows, all while learning their fighting style and habits. Kratos' good defense and insane endurance is why this tactic is so successful for him.
However, the overall fighting power of a god seems to be decided by their nature and the role they play. Nature varies from god, but Kratos' nature in the old games was to destroy. In the new God of War, Kratos has changed his ways to be a father and a protector.
Kratos' rejection of his old nature weakens the old authority and abilities he has held as the god of war.
Thor is very similar to Kratos. He has extensive experience fighting and killing gods and has accepted his role and nature as a destroyer just as Kratos once did. So when Kratos clashes with Thor in this fight as the Ghost of Sparta, he is on the receiving end of nearly every significant strike and throw. Kratos just can't bring himself to go back to his old ways and fight Thor to kill him like the old Kratos would have. This weakened resolve and doubt is exactly the reason why the solution wouldn't have been Spartan rage.
Kratos' loss here in the fight was not because of inferiority to Thor as a warrior, but because of his poor sense of self and his inability to properly trust in and conform to his new role/nature as a god.
This gets shown when they clash again later in the game and Kratos is much more resolved than the start of the game.
You should do the second fight of kratos and thor, and the second one with baldur, that would be good
Really want to see what you cook up for the 2nd fight between kratos and thor
Amazing
Yeah. Alright. I assumed Baldur vs Kratos was a one off. But now you got my subscription
Much appreciated!
It's interesting to examine this like an MMA round, but I want to point out that Thor wasn't trying to win. He was trying to push and aggravate Kratos, to get his measure.
And he did, for better or worse. Thor got what he wanted out of that fight. IMO, just for finessing Kratos, I'd give Thor the win overall, even moreso since a lot of Kratos's earlier punches didn't even affect him.
In a different scenario, he wouldn't have revived Kratos.
Imagine if TC Carson voiced Kratos for 2 seconds after hooking Thor
I understand that there is a formula to find the winner. But if we're being objective, Thor was barely trying to hurt Kratos by taking a backseat most of the fight. He didn't even care too much when Kratos was going at him.
Gotta do Kratos vs Heimdall my man 👍🏾
I hope to see some DBZ fights in this format some time in the future!
I might do the DBZ Games if they have good cutscenes. But if you want to see anime break downs go to SensibleSaiyan. He's is the Goat with the anime breakdowns
Interesting 2:35 Thor has a small amount of telekinesis. He didn’t just pick up mijolnir, the statue was levitated as well.
I saw that too and immediately went to the comments to see if anyone noticed
The fact that Kratos didnt resort to L3 + R3 in Thor first fight speaks volume because if he did then the fight would be go vastly different and more environment would have been destroyed instead.
I say, Kratos did pretty well without resort to Spartan Rage against Thor like he did with Baldur. Let's remember that he didnt have his blade of chaos against Thor first fight either.
Wasnt the death optional since it depends on the player?
To be fair, Thor wasn’t trying to out right kill Kratos, like he was in the final battle. All he really wanted was to see Kratos’s full strength which is why I think he wasn’t too active. After he got that, he left.
Praying we get an Asura VS Augus from you some time chief
Kratos dying in round two is just a late finish. Mario Yamasaki must have been the ref.
Do Kratos vs Zeus
In the comics it is stated that kratos’ power is increased when he posses the blades of chaos, with that in mind I believe this is why he lost to Thor since he didn’t have his blades in the first fight.
I believe he lost the first fight not because of the blades, but because of his necessity to hold back long enough for thor to overpower him, hence why thor wanted to see what the hype about kratos was about.
As far as raw power goes I’ll say Thor and Kratos are about on the same level. Kratos has allot more fighting experience from what I’ve seen and researched but Thor has the advantage in he never stopped fighting. Kratos has been years at this point in a peaceful lifestyle where as Thor and other asgardians have always lived for the fight, in my opinion that’s the only reason he beat kratos in the 2nd round
Also keep in mind Thor wasn’t gonna finish Kratos off aka he was holding back because of Odin; If you notice in the rematch Thor says
“ NO MORE F-ING GAMES…and this time I’m allowed to kill you! “ meaning Odin gave him permission to finish Kratos off in the rematch and not in the first encounter.
Even if kratos died during this fight, we all know he would fight his way out of whatever underworld he would be out in. Dying to Kratos is basically just a timeout to regroup and gain strength. In fact every time he has died, he has come back stronger. If I was the Asier, I would make sure to tell everyone NOT to kill Kratos..out of pure fear.
This gow was like gow 2 he lost by little but came back straight on Zeus like he did Thor ,
Just from a game point of view I hate the resurrection. Only because the first time playing I hadn't taken a single hit and could have sworn I made the quick time. On repeat plays I just let go.
Why does the music remind me of FF13-2 battle theme mix? 👀
Id like to see this fight with kratos fully trying
Brother I’m switching broadcasters after this fight that first hit was dirty can’t believe they counted that for Thor I had big money on kratos 🤦🏾
After all he didn't wanted to kill kratos, but he could have easily kill him ngl
Do Neo vs Agent Smith from the first Matrix movie
We definitely know Thor was holding back throughout this fight. Hell, outright killing Kratos by stopping his heart, only to boot it back up, shows that he wasn't going for killing blows. Now, maybe Kratos wasn't either, but we know this fight isn't either of them at peak.
Almost like he was toying with Kratos
I believe kratos did thor dirty in final fight, can't wait
Yeah Kratos got caught slipping in the second round. He was absolutely destroying him in the 1st round and did pretty good in the 3rd round as well, but his hesitance to really go for the kill like he normally would do was what cost him. Thor peeped that. It was a couple times where he didn't really go in like he could have. He honestly coulda killed him here (2:30) with an axe to the face like he did Magni. And here (5:45) he did a clever move to distract Thor but he didn't follow through for another attack right away after doing it. When he fought Baldur for example the first time, and hit him with a tree, he immediately ran after him for another attack.
I do think a couple of the points are a lil off. Thor should only have 3 melee strikes in the 2nd round and he should only get 1 throw for the 1st round. I don't think his initial strike should count as a throw as well. I also don't really understand how the final results of the scoring works. How's round 1 and 3 a 10-8 for example? Kratos had far more strikes than Thor. Anyways, another great breakdown! Can't wait for the next fight! Kratos goes in!
Highly appreciated the insight! I understand many of your points. I can't be mad if either 1 or 3 ended up as a 10-9 on people's cards, which would favor Thor. This was a close one for me so I love hearing how others would judge it. Thanks for the feedback, it's much appreciated!