I could have listened to another hour of this. Fascinating stuff. It made me want to know more about the interaction between the Celts and Saxons and how much of the former continues today, genetically and culturally.
Sir Christopher! Thank you, matey.. Glad we could assist in your repose... You missed a kick-ass bit o' Tuvan throat singing at the end though. :-) Btw, I should be getting a new laptop this week. If it's still all crappy and unreliable, I'll be out of ideas... Other than jumping on a plane, of course.
8:05 I found it hilarious that a colloquialism that started in the US State of Georgia in the 1840s - "There's gold in them thar hills" has now become so ubiquitous that it can be used and immediately understood between two Brits. If anyone ever wondered where the phrase comes from, it was a plea from M.F. Stephenson (author of Geology and Mineralogy of Georgia) to his fellow citizens not to leave Georgia for the California gold rush - because according to him, there was plenty of gold in their own backyards.
In Britain's recent phase of multiculturalism how can one possibly expect respect for the indigenous populations history and ancient monuments by those who have absolutely no cultural or historical affinity to these things or indeed interest in them? The deliberate political misrepresentation of British history now taught in schools to encourage the lost hope of 'inclusivity' further destroys any hope of respect for the future of British history, ancient or more recent. I fear the worst and frankly I do not think that the majority of indigenous Brits have their hearts in these things anymore. Ancient churches across France are being desecrated and even burned down - but not by the French. Notre Dame was no accident and many will remember the quickly removed images of the figure in Middle Eastern clothes at one of the high windows in the smoke filled cathedral - Macron did a good job of suppressing that to preserve the multicultural dream of his Globalist masters. May your amazing ancient British heritage stay safe.
Surely it depends on how thoughtful someone is. Many people from India speak impeccable English and take an interest in British history. I’m second generation immigrant and am interested in Anglo-Saxon history and British imperial history. I even like watching Sharpe 😂
Survive the ruddy Jive! Great chat. I don't know whose backgound it came from, but your ice cream man has the same jingle my one has. My wife and I were in a restaurant in Budapest and they had a man and woman playing music - and they played it too!
I'd like to thank TH-cam for finally informing me of this video, just one month late. Bravo, Susan, bravo. I always enjoy your informal, chat over a beer, style. It is much more engaging than the likes of Kings and Generals' relentless leaping, from event to event. Cheers
@@HistoryBro really enjoyed that, thank you, I couldn't help wondering weather you was eluding to some of Graham Hancock's theory on a handing over of certain technologies from an previous advanced culture that seems to have kick started the hunter gather into the neolithic period, something happened back then that is not quite making sense as more artifacts emerge, perticuly when comparing core samples with dating techniques, I find it all very interesting
@@che71che Good question. To be perfectly honest I didn't have Graham Hancock in mind when I said that about "something happening" which made men suddenly start building. But it's totally in that ballpark. Yeah, that's definitely the way it would have gone had we continued down that path... However, I WAS thinking of Graham Hancock's work when I asked him about the Pyramids possibly dating from a much earlier period than the Pharaohs... I'd love to speak to Hancock himself one day.
@@HistoryBro There's a channel Ive been watching for around 3 years by a Indian chap called Preveen, he visits Hindu Temples and Buddhist Temple complexes aswell as some South American and North American sites, In the Hindu temples he's shown some extraordinary intricate carvings, many done on Basalt stone and reportedly done some 800+ years ago, looking at them I'd say they would be impossible to do even with the use of today's modern tools, some of these carving are so tiny but highly detailed to the point that they have managed to crave out a bent limb from a 3inch long Hindu god whicha needle can be threaded between the gap made in the solid stone work, the basalt is also highly polished to a mirror like surface, officially we are told this is the work of Men using copper hammer's and chisels over a single day? And then listening to Hancock, Carlson, Schoch among others and that's before you even start trying to take in what Sitchen was finding on the clay cuneiform tablets, The more evidence that's being presented the more questions have to be asked about why it gets simply dismissed out of hand by current mainstream academics before studying the physical structures being unearthed, the ancient manuscripts that have been deciphered, the facts that advanced mathematical equations using earth's longitude, latitude plus astrological alignments have been being simultaneously all correlated within the architecture of ancient ruins across the planet, even the Piri Reis maps which he navigated from in 1513 saying he'd made it from a collection of ancient maps he'd sourced that included almost the exact mapped out coastline of the Antarctic, this wasn't broadly or fully accurately surveyed untill as late as 1983 plus there's that simple African hunter gather tribe know as the Dogon who have known about the Sirius system for as far back as 3000bc, This star system wasn't even discovered until the 1860's? Up to present this Tribe still live in huts engineered from pure dung and wear odd looking masks they say represent the people that came down and told them where in the night sky they had come from? It's fascinating stuff, The one thing with Hancock is that he sounds like a bit of a homoglobo, which I find strange given that the mythology of these ancient people and cultures give the credit for spreading knowledge of these techniques to the indigenous hunter gather tribes across the world are described as being White and likely to be an ancient, advanced race of Aryans.
Very interesting discussion. When did our good friend Mr. Cheddar Man fit into the picture? I seem to remember it being implied that he and his friends were ever so important. Perhaps just another attempt to write present interlopers into the past.
@@HistoryBro no more italians ruling what isn't theirs! first the romans then the corsicans, we need a good native liechtensteinian King ruling over Britain!
@Hello Again I thought the native Liechtensteinian ruling over britain part would give away that I'm kidding xD. I just changed the name because I decided that bonapartism isn't obscure enough of an idea
4:50 -- Excellent navigation into the Heart of the Matter, Gentlemen! And this is the best new Subscription for me, in 2020. RE: "The Beaker People"; the term might have fallen out of Fashion, but I tend to think that *WHEN* that happens, it is *NOT* because it is False, Misleading, or Wrong... but doesn't fit with the Official Narrative.
I wonder if the change in skull shapes among the same people is a reflection of the nutritional quality of the diet, as seen in the studies of Weston Price?
@Hello Again perhaps it was unnecessary to seem so hostile (I thought about apologising to History Bro for that, because it's underneath his video and really quite unnecessary). But it has nothing to do with fragility or fear; contempt is the word you're looking for.
Awesome. Never heard of The Jive and I'll take some time to check him out, thanks! I also thought it could be worth a mention, but I was a couple of years ago when I read something about Sweden, and looking into The Sámi people, and their history, Sami are closely related to Mongolians especially, with Tsaatans in Khuvsgul Lake in Mongolia and Siberian Mongolian tribes such as Yakuts, Tuvans and Buryats.
The pictures of the stone monuments are incredible. Are they available in larger frameable formats? Great interview as well, Tom hits it out of the park (you can look it up).
The photo of the ship shows it having iron rivets. I thought that the anglosaxons didn't use iron to hold their ships together. Isn't that a British tradition.
I don't know about the Anglo-Saxons as such, but the Norse certainly used iron rivets when building their ships. There was a lot of iron extraction in and trade from Norway during the migration period and onwards -- particularly in the valley that I live in, incidentally.
So, how does the mutation of DNA work? Does it mutate in the parents by diet, and living conditions, and is passed on as a collective as a whole to all the generations that spring from a social group as a whole, or do you think that it is just mutated in the said children because it would be pretty easy to breed said mutation out of existence unless the social hierarchy found it attractive in some way, and that brings me back to a video that I was watching the other day about Danu, and they had a point where they were talking about a collective consciousness being destroyed by deceptive qualities, or by destructive qualities. I forget what it is called but I think that it started with an M, and do you think that it is the collective consciousness that brings upon certain mutations along with diet and life style choices.
Gobekli Tepe is in Anatolia. The people who brought agriculture into Europe during the Neolithic and contributed significantly to European ancestry were also from Anatolia. It's interesting that they later made similar megalithic structures in western Europe.
I was interupted several times by my kids so forgive me if I missed something that changes my opinion. Anyway,Jive was mistaken about us getting our desire to preserve our history and historical sites/relics as being new. That's ridiculous and I can't believe the other guy didn't say anything.I don't believe everything was left specifically for us but as far as Stonehenge,Pyramids,he gets and Earthworks were definitely built to last so future generations knew they were there and were very important or to bring attention to what they had reverence for. They left giant megaliths,megalithic, wrote on these megalithic. They carved into stone,stone tablets,papyrus scrolls,cave drawings,etc.. I don't know if they specifically were thinking of us but they definitely recorded things that was important to them and wanted to ensure for people in the future to know. That's it for now. I'll probably listen to it again and if I find anything else I'll drop back in. I like Jive I just feel he's off on some things. Peace!
The Heart of Orkney is largely before the beaker people and Stonehenge and Durrington seem to copy Orkney a lot so not convinced that Beaker people took over, maybe more like roman religious practice and they just adopted the local styles and ideas etc. Especially because there aint nothing like it in Europe.
@@TheEvolver311 Thats Europeans not indians or Asians. Thats why they created the fake bs called indo European to lay claim on other traditions. When they lost their own.
Great interview, Bro! Love the illustrations, as always.
Danke. Danke. Danke Schon.
I could have listened to another hour of this. Fascinating stuff. It made me want to know more about the interaction between the Celts and Saxons and how much of the former continues today, genetically and culturally.
Cheers, bud... Yeah, I hope to get more time with Mr S. T. Jive... Could just fire questions at him for ages.
Great stuff Bro and Jive. Missed the very end as your combined dulceticity wooed me into nodland, but the rest was a pleasure.
Sir Christopher! Thank you, matey.. Glad we could assist in your repose... You missed a kick-ass bit o' Tuvan throat singing at the end though. :-)
Btw, I should be getting a new laptop this week. If it's still all crappy and unreliable, I'll be out of ideas... Other than jumping on a plane, of course.
@@HistoryBro OK keep me posted. And since I opened a stream with a bit of Tuvan throat singing - we're good.
8:05 I found it hilarious that a colloquialism that started in the US State of Georgia in the 1840s - "There's gold in them thar hills" has now become so ubiquitous that it can be used and immediately understood between two Brits.
If anyone ever wondered where the phrase comes from, it was a plea from M.F. Stephenson (author of Geology and Mineralogy of Georgia) to his fellow citizens not to leave Georgia for the California gold rush - because according to him, there was plenty of gold in their own backyards.
In Britain's recent phase of multiculturalism how can one possibly expect respect for the indigenous populations history and ancient monuments by those who have absolutely no cultural or historical affinity to these things or indeed interest in them? The deliberate political misrepresentation of British history now taught in schools to encourage the lost hope of 'inclusivity' further destroys any hope of respect for the future of British history, ancient or more recent. I fear the worst and frankly I do not think that the majority of indigenous Brits have their hearts in these things anymore. Ancient churches across France are being desecrated and even burned down - but not by the French. Notre Dame was no accident and many will remember the quickly removed images of the figure in Middle Eastern clothes at one of the high windows in the smoke filled cathedral - Macron did a good job of suppressing that to preserve the multicultural dream of his Globalist masters. May your amazing ancient British heritage stay safe.
Surely it depends on how thoughtful someone is. Many people from India speak impeccable English and take an interest in British history. I’m second generation immigrant and am interested in Anglo-Saxon history and British imperial history. I even like watching Sharpe 😂
Awesome two of my fav you tubers both criminally underrated thanks history bro
Thank you. Thank you... Mister S. T. Jive was certainly on form. He's a wealth of knowledge, huh.
I really enjoyed this, I watched this and the one about saturnalia, I thought he was a great guest when you had him on lotus eaters a few weeks ago
Survive the ruddy Jive! Great chat. I don't know whose backgound it came from, but your ice cream man has the same jingle my one has. My wife and I were in a restaurant in Budapest and they had a man and woman playing music - and they played it too!
Good job on the video dude. It is always awesome to listen to two great unbiased historians, much love from Brazil🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Cheers for the comment matey. Always blows me away to be reminded people from all over the globe are listening. Amazing, really.
I'd like to thank TH-cam for finally informing me of this video, just one month late. Bravo, Susan, bravo.
I always enjoy your informal, chat over a beer, style. It is much more engaging than the likes of Kings and Generals' relentless leaping, from event to event. Cheers
Perfect listening for a Sunday chill, Nice👍🏻
Top call @History Bro
Hope you enjoy buddy. :-)
@@HistoryBro really enjoyed that, thank you,
I couldn't help wondering weather you was eluding to some of Graham Hancock's theory on a handing over of certain technologies from an previous advanced culture that seems to have kick started the hunter gather into the neolithic period, something happened back then that is not quite making sense as more artifacts emerge, perticuly when comparing core samples with dating techniques,
I find it all very interesting
@@che71che Good question. To be perfectly honest I didn't have Graham Hancock in mind when I said that about "something happening" which made men suddenly start building. But it's totally in that ballpark. Yeah, that's definitely the way it would have gone had we continued down that path... However, I WAS thinking of Graham Hancock's work when I asked him about the Pyramids possibly dating from a much earlier period than the Pharaohs... I'd love to speak to Hancock himself one day.
@@HistoryBro There's a channel Ive been watching for around 3 years by a Indian chap called Preveen, he visits Hindu Temples and Buddhist Temple complexes aswell as some South American and North American sites,
In the Hindu temples he's shown some extraordinary intricate carvings, many done on Basalt stone and reportedly done some 800+ years ago, looking at them I'd say they would be impossible to do even with the use of today's modern tools, some of these carving are so tiny but highly detailed to the point that they have managed to crave out a bent limb from a 3inch long Hindu god whicha needle can be threaded between the gap made in the solid stone work, the basalt is also highly polished to a mirror like surface, officially we are told this is the work of Men using copper hammer's and chisels over a single day?
And then listening to Hancock, Carlson, Schoch among others and that's before you even start trying to take in what Sitchen was finding on the clay cuneiform tablets,
The more evidence that's being presented the more questions have to be asked about why it gets simply dismissed out of hand by current mainstream academics before studying the physical structures being unearthed, the ancient manuscripts that have been deciphered, the facts that advanced mathematical equations using earth's longitude, latitude plus astrological alignments have been being simultaneously all correlated within the architecture of ancient ruins across the planet, even the Piri Reis maps which he navigated from in 1513 saying he'd made it from a collection of ancient maps he'd sourced that included almost the exact mapped out coastline of the Antarctic, this wasn't broadly or fully accurately surveyed untill as late as 1983
plus there's that simple African hunter gather tribe know as the Dogon who have known about the Sirius system for as far back as 3000bc,
This star system wasn't even discovered until the 1860's?
Up to present this Tribe still live in huts engineered from pure dung and wear odd looking masks they say represent the people that came down and told them where in the night sky they had come from?
It's fascinating stuff,
The one thing with Hancock is that he sounds like a bit of a homoglobo, which I find strange given that the mythology of these ancient people and cultures give the credit for spreading knowledge of these techniques to the indigenous hunter gather tribes across the world are described as being White and likely to be an ancient, advanced race of Aryans.
@@che71che I quite like the channel UnchartedX... Oh, and I'm fascinated by the Piri Reis map. Want to talk about the history of maps some day.
Very interesting discussion. When did our good friend Mr. Cheddar Man fit into the picture? I seem to remember it being implied that he and his friends were ever so important. Perhaps just another attempt to write present interlopers into the past.
Cheddar Man is really old. Way before the Beaker people, I believe. 7000BC, odd.
@@HistoryBro thanks
Love listening to a good informative chat, great content, pictures changing in the background is much nicer than one static picture as well 👍🏼
Thank you very much. Yeah, it takes quite a while to do the pictures. Even though most people say they only listen to it, it still seems worth it. :-)
oh my god strong start with neolithic monuments and their change in use over the ages. Didn't expect to hear about stuff I love so much!
Cheers for the comment, Bro.
Gotta ask... I thought you were a Bonapartist? Have you turned your back on The little Corsican?
@@HistoryBro no more italians ruling what isn't theirs! first the romans then the corsicans, we need a good native liechtensteinian King ruling over Britain!
@Hello Again what do you mean?
@Hello Again I thought the native Liechtensteinian ruling over britain part would give away that I'm kidding xD. I just changed the name because I decided that bonapartism isn't obscure enough of an idea
@Hello Again ... but it's not serious... and I have nothing I particularly want to say about it...?
4:50 -- Excellent navigation into the Heart of the Matter, Gentlemen! And this is the best new Subscription for me, in 2020.
RE: "The Beaker People"; the term might have fallen out of Fashion, but I tend to think that *WHEN* that happens, it is *NOT* because it is False, Misleading, or Wrong... but doesn't fit with the Official Narrative.
Kicked back on the arm chair, cold beer and headphones on😊
Coolio. Hope it's worth your time. :-)
@@HistoryBro Definitely worth it, History Bro and survive the jive what could be better ;-) hope you do more of these.
A wealth of information - a true gold mine of knowledge. Well done lads.
Thanks, dude. Comment massively appreciated :-)
I wonder if the change in skull shapes among the same people is a reflection of the nutritional quality of the diet, as seen in the studies of Weston Price?
A fascinating listen!
Many thanks :-)
EDIT - "When there's trouble, you call DeeDoubleYou"
I forget how lucky I am to live in Wiltshire until I hear a podcast like this..
Thanks for the comment. And yes, you are indeed lucky. :-) Wish I lived in Wiltshire.
@@HistoryBro No problem :) I thoroughly enjoyed your appearance on Dangerfield, can't wait for part 2!
I live in Wiltshire as well. Avebury is just a twenty minute drive from my home. I also have relatives in Devizes and Swindon.
They found some amber beads at a burial site in the hills near Stockport.
It is known as Shaw cairn.
The burial was believed to be around 3000 b.c.
Amazing to think what secrets the ground still holds, just waiting to be found :-)
@@HistoryBro yes and apparently amber is not found in Britain .
Nearest place is Scandinavia so they were trading with other people.
actually I think the cist was dated to the bronze age. I don't think there were amber beads in uk 5k years ago
So our culture goes back over 5000 years. That's some culture.
5000 for starters... Yep. Tis a rich heritage.
Hello Again what’s your point?
@Hello Again you don't have a point.
@Hello Again lol. Culturecidal loser. Am I guessing correctly in that you're an ethnocidal lunatic as well?
@Hello Again perhaps it was unnecessary to seem so hostile (I thought about apologising to History Bro for that, because it's underneath his video and really quite unnecessary). But it has nothing to do with fragility or fear; contempt is the word you're looking for.
Make Istanbul Constantinople Again!
Never heard of survive the jive is it good?
I suspect he might just be right up your alley, Hagnar. Give him a whirl.
@@HistoryBro Survive the Jive has an excellent channel. The Pre History Guys is also good. They have interviews with archaeologists and make videos.
@@skadiwarrior2053 I'd like to speak to The Pre History Guys, for sure.
yes yes history bro!! Big love, brother!
Johnny P!... I can count on you. Really really appreciate it, as always.
@@HistoryBro Great video, lads! Already looking forward to the next one.
Awesome. Never heard of The Jive and I'll take some time to check him out, thanks! I also thought it could be worth a mention, but I was a couple of years ago when I read something about Sweden, and looking into The Sámi people, and their history, Sami are closely related to Mongolians especially, with Tsaatans in Khuvsgul Lake in Mongolia and Siberian Mongolian tribes such as Yakuts, Tuvans and Buryats.
Mintie. Bro. No way you just referenced Tuva... The throat singing at the very end is Tuvan!... Spooky.
The pictures of the stone monuments are incredible. Are they available in larger frameable formats? Great interview as well, Tom hits it out of the park (you can look it up).
Uhuh, he's a great inteviewee... The pics I just got from Google images.
The photo of the ship shows it having iron rivets. I thought that the anglosaxons didn't use iron to hold their ships together. Isn't that a British tradition.
It was clinker built. They did use iron
I don't know about the Anglo-Saxons as such, but the Norse certainly used iron rivets when building their ships. There was a lot of iron extraction in and trade from Norway during the migration period and onwards -- particularly in the valley that I live in, incidentally.
P.S. I hadn't refreshed the page since yesterday, so didn't notice that StJ had already commented.
@@Vingul no probs. Thanks
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Very Indo-European
A little wee bit o' Indo-European; good for what ails ya.
So, how does the mutation of DNA work? Does it mutate in the parents by diet, and living conditions, and is passed on as a collective as a whole to all the generations that spring from a social group as a whole, or do you think that it is just mutated in the said children because it would be pretty easy to breed said mutation out of existence unless the social hierarchy found it attractive in some way, and that brings me back to a video that I was watching the other day about Danu, and they had a point where they were talking about a collective consciousness being destroyed by deceptive qualities, or by destructive qualities. I forget what it is called but I think that it started with an M, and do you think that it is the collective consciousness that brings upon certain mutations along with diet and life style choices.
So the alcoholism in my family goes way back your saying?
Those Beaker folk sure liked a jar or too, huh.
Gobekli Tepe is in Anatolia. The people who brought agriculture into Europe during the Neolithic and contributed significantly to European ancestry were also from Anatolia. It's interesting that they later made similar megalithic structures in western Europe.
Ah I see that you addressed that in the video. I simply hadn't got to that part of the video when I made my previous comment. Fascinating discussion.
I'm just gonna call Middle-Francia the "blue banana" from now on.
Oh... what if the Anglo/Saxons believed they were taking back the isle as they worshipped the places? Knew what they were..
I was interupted several times by my kids so forgive me if I missed something that changes my opinion. Anyway,Jive was mistaken about us getting our desire to preserve our history and historical sites/relics as being new. That's ridiculous and I can't believe the other guy didn't say anything.I don't believe everything was left specifically for us but as far as Stonehenge,Pyramids,he gets and Earthworks were definitely built to last so future generations knew they were there and were very important or to bring attention to what they had reverence for. They left giant megaliths,megalithic, wrote on these megalithic. They carved into stone,stone tablets,papyrus scrolls,cave drawings,etc.. I don't know if they specifically were thinking of us but they definitely recorded things that was important to them and wanted to ensure for people in the future to know. That's it for now. I'll probably listen to it again and if I find anything else I'll drop back in. I like Jive I just feel he's off on some things. Peace!
How much did the Victorian's know?
Erm... In general?... As a percentage of all knowledge?
nice
Wow
You are so wrong 😔
The purpose of Stonehenge was a place for hippies to smoke lots of marijuana.
Dear Hippies - GET A HAIRCUT!
Nah, lol, if that's what makes 'em happy, all power to 'em, I reckon.
The Heart of Orkney is largely before the beaker people and Stonehenge and Durrington seem to copy Orkney a lot so not convinced that Beaker people took over, maybe more like roman religious practice and they just adopted the local styles and ideas etc. Especially because there aint nothing like it in Europe.
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#SubRonnie
Survive the scam, appropriates ancient Indian culture and calls it European.
You people never change do you?
Lol
i do no such thing
The Indo-Europeans are going to get a bit of what they gave
They're going to get back technology and civilisation? It's looking doubtful at the moment
@@warmasterhorus We're going to get our high trust civil society back?! Hot dog. I can't wait.
@@warmasterhorus eradicating the people's and cultures that preceded them.
@@TheEvolver311
Thats Europeans not indians or Asians. Thats why they created the fake bs called indo European to lay claim on other traditions. When they lost their own.