I would seriously buy pagan holiday books for Easter, Samhain, Midsummer, Walpurgisnacht and the other festivals. I would love a collection of books to use as a teaching tool for my children. Perhaps you could do an Indiegogo or other crowdfunding platform for each? I know of so many young families who need these kinds of books.
I usually just sacrifice some kind of alcohol at the base of an oak tree. I’m probably doing it wrong but I like to think that on some level it’s the thought and attempt that counts.
I'm from the south of Germany. Christmas always was - and still is - the most magical thing to me! I believe in some kind of reincarnation and genetic memory. There's definitely something resonating strongly with this season in me.
This question is for Tom: Have you looked into the similarities of the ancient Zoroastrian festival of Yalda and Christmas or Yule? Yalda the celebration of the winter solstice on December 22 which symbolises the victory or light over darkness. Some also theorise that Yalda may be a cognate of the Nordic Yule.
The Christian Church didn't choose the date of Christmas. Rather, they chose the date of the Annunciation (when the Angel Gabriel "announced" to Mary that she was about to fall pregnant). There was much vigorous debate in the early church as to when Annunciationtide should fall. They set it at March 25 and so what do you get when you count out 9 months from there? 25 Dec. This happened at a time well before Constantine converted
The average German Christmas Market would be in violation of about 20 Canadian laws, including selling non-inclusive foods like nuts and dairy as well as culturally appropriating Kwanzaa from the majestic Wakandans, Builders Of All.
Sadly the American chestnut is almost extinct. Barely clinging to existence. As a child, the ground would be covered in a variety of nuts. Today, it's rare to see even one in east Baltimore. People please guerrilla grow indigenous sacred/ food trees!
The secret is to be an adult that can still see beauty and magik in the world you view daily. Can you still see a tiny waterfall in a ditch? Cultivate awe.
Here in Italy there are the relics of Sant Nicholas in Venice and Bari, in Bari San Nicola is a very famous saint and the saint of the city. But our name for Santa Claus is "Babbo Natale", "babbo" is mind "dad" in Tuscanian dialect (in Italian is papà) and Natale is mind "Christmas" (lit. "natal", we don't put he Christ name in the festivity's name); so oue name for Santa Claus is "Dad Christmas".
I ll start with a fun fact. Nicholas comes from the greek name Nikolaos which comes from the words victory (Nike) + people (laos) = the one that gives victory to the people. In Greece its not saint Nicholas the one that brings the presents. Its saint Basil. And its not on christmass day but the first day of the year. In now days saint Basil has been merged with Santa Claus, he rides on a reindeer sleigh, has a list and all the coca cola paraphernalia lol. But the story behind all that goes back to saint Basil who was a bishop a writer and theologian in Caesarea. The tale says that the governor of Cappadocia theratened the city of Caesarea that either they will pay ransom or he will sack the city. The citizens gathered all their jewels and gold and offered them in order to save themselves. But the Governor after a miraculous encounter with saint Mercurios changed his mind and left the city alone. But now there was the problem of giving back the gold and saint Basil did not know what belonged to whom. He decided to destribute small cakes that included random pieces of gold inside so everybody would get something. It became a tradition for January the first the day dedicated to saint Basil, to cut a sweet bread that has a coin inside. The pater familias crosses the sweetbread three times with the knife and proceeds to cut the pieces, for the Household, for Christ, for Mary, for the poor and for the members of the family in order of age. The one who finds the coin keeps it and he will be lucky during the new year.
About Yule being associated with the dead and Odin fetching the dead. Well, sending his Valkyries to fetch the dead at least. It reminds me of Grandfather Frost and Snegurochka who represent Yule in some Slavic countries.
Truth be told, when I checked it out it seemed like a USSR concoction to decrease the power of Christianity. However, its still nice. And, well, traditions and legends have to start somewhere. It is by the goodness of the people that they grow into our protectors and help us form community with our kinsmen and with those that came before us. Fake it till you make it. What is a conscious effort for one generation will be magic tradition for their children.
In the American South, Yule logs were common, and were lit sometime before Christmas and for as long as the Yule log burned no one had to work. So the slaves developed the practice of felling a big tree in the summer and putting it under water, bringing it out to be the Yule log, and for as long as it burned the slaves were free from arduous labor.
@survivethejive Apologies for my hasty comments on this video. I very much respect your work and all you've done your channel has had a positive impact on myself and the world. I would just like to add that though I am not sure on the subject because I have not done sufficient research on the subject; I have read before that the Christmas tree tradition in the German comes from specifically the Rhineland area and was spread by Prussians later on from the Rhineland tradition. Though similar traditions exist in more eastern European countries as well. There has been some suggestion that these practices in Eastern European countries come from Pre-Christain traditions; I am also unsure of that since I would need to do much more research to confirm this. Currently I am busy writing a short research paper on other subjects relating to "Germanic/Nordic" culture (which ever word you prefer since I find those words very interchangeable). But to make it clear, I never suggested even in my previous hasty comments that is was a Jól tradition or a religious practice. I'm simply suggesting that it may come from similar Germanic/Nordic and Slavic folk traditions (in certain localities) in the winter that may pre-date Christianity. I will say that this is speculative since I currently don't have the time to do thorough research on this subject specifically. I appreciate that you brought up that this folk tradition does not related to Pagan Jól practices because it has opened up a new subject of search for me. I will admit I responded to hastily and passionately to what you said and thoroughly appreciate what you do. Thank you for your good work and being an inspiration for many young minds who are interested in the study of history and native European culture including paganism.
Rather than Christian influence on Germanic myth, you should be looking at Finnish Pagan influence. The Balder-Hothr story as told by Adam of Bremen is quite different.
I always thought the tree and baubles were related to the amanita muscaria mushroom, which lives in a relationship with pine trees. I was told Eastern (maybe Lithuania) European shamans would hang the big red mushrooms in the pine trees to dry before a ritual. Also reindeer love them and if you drink the piss of a reindeer that has eaten them, you trip. And might see one or two flying. Maybe complete bollox but it all seems to fit. Durin the Christian conversions it would seem logical to bring the tree into the house so the ritual could be done in private. The tree would be put near the fire to assist with the drying of the shooms.
AncientFinnish, Finno-Ugric, Eurasian cultures had shaman. The shaman would travel by deer/elk from his community up into the sky into the next real where he would retrieve the gift of wisdom that was needed for his people. He would return to the earth's surface and present his people with this gift. So, we have a wise man flying with deer into the sky. That sounds mighty familiar.
A mí que alguien me explique por qué Survive the Jive le hace juego a la narrativa mediática sobre Egipto, Sumeria y demás. ¿Hay que recordarle que en la Triple Alianza de América central se creía en un territorio insular y al Norte de nombre Tula? ¿O esta partecita también la obviaron los biógrafos y escribanos ingleses?
Is that where the word eulogy comes from? Like learning from the year or the years end/ study of the year? Could easily google but it's more fun this way haha. Just remember biology... Bio - Life, logy - study.... Eul - ogy
Well the Anatolian natives at the time of the Turkish invasion were Greek in language and culture and any descendants who weren't assimilated into Turkish culture and language consider themselves 100% Greek today
The Greeks that fled the genocide in what is now known as Turkey identify as Greek, and their native language is closer to old Greek than any other currently living form of the language. He was Greek.
During the church nativity play, my little one asked innocently "Why are we celebrating a baby that was born to die?" To a child they probably think it's such a tragic story! Then I looked into the history of Christmas...We're Muslim now, see my video testimony
I don't see how switching your worship to a man who slaughtered adults is much better....at that, one who was clearly inspired by christianity. I would recommend continuing to learn about pre abrahamic faiths connected to your personal ethno cultural background. Good luck.
28 x 13 = 364, plus a 7 day Jubilee week every 7 years = 365, plus an extra 7 day Jubilee week every 28 years = 365.25 day year. Or 6 years of 52 week years and every 7th year is 53 week year and every 28 years a 54 week year. The 13 month Calendar
There's a biological issue with Santa's reindeer being male. They're depicted as still having antlers after the rut, when the males have shed their antlers. Those sleigh pulling reindeer are female.
Jesus was born on December 25th proven from the bible! Zacharias entered the Holy of Holies to offer incense (feast of sukkot late September) and there he had a vision of an angel of the Lord who announced to him the birth of his son, whom he was to call John. Soon after that, Elizabeth, his wife, became pregnant six months later, the angel Gabriel appears to the Virgin Mary and announces to her that she will bear the Son of God and also reveals to her that her cousin Elizabeth is already in her sixth month of pregnancy (Luke 1:30-37). Elizabeth became pregnant in the latter part of September (after the Feast of Tabernacles) and the Virgin Mary became pregnant six months later in the latter part of March. If we count nine months from that time we end up at the latter part of December, which is the time when Jesus was born. Hence, the celebration of Christmas on December 25 is justified
@EmtronVenger uh... what type of winters do you think they have in Jerusalem?... They are on the same parallel as the middle of Texas. Last December 25th Jerusalem was in the 70s.
@Yahweh Official I show you proof wheres your proof? Now if you use the julian calendar then it shows jesus was born in the first week of January. But wheres your proof of February?
Ok, because I've liked prior to watching I think I've earned the right to comment before too. The comment being, I hope this video alludes to Saturnalia.
@@Survivethejive I should be more versed in northern european paganism but it's that much more difficult than merely picking up Euripides, Ovid, etc, (even later poets and writers like Shakespeare, Gibbon and beyond), and simply immersing oneself in classical literature.
28 x 13 = 364, plus a 7 day Jubilee week every 7 years = 365, plus an extra 7 day Jubilee week every 28 years = 365.25 day year. Or 6 years of 52 week years and every 7th year is 53 week year and every 28 years a 54 week year. The 13 month Calendar
Please do another children's book for Easter. I need a whole library of books that teach my children about our pagan forefathers.
I'd love to.
Seriously! My number one wish for winning the lottery would be to fund these incredible artists! My kids LOVE his stuff!
YES!!!
THIS!!!!
I would seriously buy pagan holiday books for Easter, Samhain, Midsummer, Walpurgisnacht and the other festivals. I would love a collection of books to use as a teaching tool for my children. Perhaps you could do an Indiegogo or other crowdfunding platform for each? I know of so many young families who need these kinds of books.
I usually just sacrifice some kind of alcohol at the base of an oak tree. I’m probably doing it wrong but I like to think that on some level it’s the thought and attempt that counts.
Exactly.
I'm from the south of Germany. Christmas always was - and still is - the most magical thing to me! I believe in some kind of reincarnation and genetic memory. There's definitely something resonating strongly with this season in me.
It’s your ancestors Hroth
Just ordered the book. I’m sure my son will enjoy and learn from it.
Thanks, Horatio.
Perfect to listen to on Christmas Eve. Great video!
This question is for Tom: Have you looked into the similarities of the ancient Zoroastrian festival of Yalda and Christmas or Yule? Yalda the celebration of the winter solstice on December 22 which symbolises the victory or light over darkness. Some also theorise that Yalda may be a cognate of the Nordic Yule.
In Holland Sinterklaas rides a horse on rooftops. He also has a staff...
I really enjoyed this. I ordered the book the other week.
Thanks! Long overdue beers soon.
Jive is my spirit animal
I really do love your style of illustrating Chris, I use it for inspiration quite often in my own work!
Thanks, Jack.
Merry christmas thanks guys!
The Christian Church didn't choose the date of Christmas. Rather, they chose the date of the Annunciation (when the Angel Gabriel "announced" to Mary that she was about to fall pregnant). There was much vigorous debate in the early church as to when Annunciationtide should fall. They set it at March 25 and so what do you get when you count out 9 months from there? 25 Dec. This happened at a time well before Constantine converted
I remember people selling roasted chestnuts from street stalls in London back in the 70’s/80’s.
someone probably made it illegal now
The average German Christmas Market would be in violation of about 20 Canadian laws, including selling non-inclusive foods like nuts and dairy as well as culturally appropriating Kwanzaa from the majestic Wakandans, Builders Of All.
They were still sold last year at the german market in birmingham, haven't been this year. There are also some market stalls and sellers with them.
Saw a stall in Staines Middlesex a few weeks ago. Maybe they are making a comeback?
Sadly the American chestnut is almost extinct. Barely clinging to existence. As a child, the ground would be covered in a variety of nuts. Today, it's rare to see even one in east Baltimore. People please guerrilla grow indigenous sacred/ food trees!
The secret is to be an adult that can still see beauty and magik in the world you view daily. Can you still see a tiny waterfall in a ditch? Cultivate awe.
Here in Italy there are the relics of Sant Nicholas in Venice and Bari, in Bari San Nicola is a very famous saint and the saint of the city. But our name for Santa Claus is "Babbo Natale", "babbo" is mind "dad" in Tuscanian dialect (in Italian is papà) and Natale is mind "Christmas" (lit. "natal", we don't put he Christ name in the festivity's name); so oue name for Santa Claus is "Dad Christmas".
I ll start with a fun fact. Nicholas comes from the greek name Nikolaos which comes from the words victory (Nike) + people (laos) = the one that gives victory to the people.
In Greece its not saint Nicholas the one that brings the presents. Its saint Basil. And its not on christmass day but the first day of the year. In now days saint Basil has been merged with Santa Claus, he rides on a reindeer sleigh, has a list and all the coca cola paraphernalia lol. But the story behind all that goes back to saint Basil who was a bishop a writer and theologian in Caesarea.
The tale says that the governor of Cappadocia theratened the city of Caesarea that either they will pay ransom or he will sack the city. The citizens gathered all their jewels and gold and offered them in order to save themselves. But the Governor after a miraculous encounter with saint Mercurios changed his mind and left the city alone. But now there was the problem of giving back the gold and saint Basil did not know what belonged to whom. He decided to destribute small cakes that included random pieces of gold inside so everybody would get something.
It became a tradition for January the first the day dedicated to saint Basil, to cut a sweet bread that has a coin inside. The pater familias crosses the sweetbread three times with the knife and proceeds to cut the pieces, for the Household, for Christ, for Mary, for the poor and for the members of the family in order of age. The one who finds the coin keeps it and he will be lucky during the new year.
I'm going to make a Yule log cake this year for the first time. My first time making a rolled cake. Hopefully it comes out well.
how'd it turn out?
Father Christmas outfit was always green in Aengland.it was changed in the 20th century to red and white to promote coca cola
Absolutely loved this!
Need a Christmas update video!
Yes here in Cologne there is a day when the "keys to the city" are handed to the looneys.
I'm afraid all of our European Governments have handed the keys to the looneys.
The association of Christmas with ghosts and the dead could be related to/derive from the association of Odin/Woden/Wotan with the dead and spirits.
Good Yule to all you heathens. May you get roaring drunk and belly filled with food as winter comes.
About Yule being associated with the dead and Odin fetching the dead. Well, sending his Valkyries to fetch the dead at least. It reminds me of Grandfather Frost and Snegurochka who represent Yule in some Slavic countries.
Truth be told, when I checked it out it seemed like a USSR concoction to decrease the power of Christianity. However, its still nice. And, well, traditions and legends have to start somewhere. It is by the goodness of the people that they grow into our protectors and help us form community with our kinsmen and with those that came before us. Fake it till you make it. What is a conscious effort for one generation will be magic tradition for their children.
Exactly.
@Carmicha3l It is later. Echoes.
In the American South, Yule logs were common, and were lit sometime before Christmas and for as long as the Yule log burned no one had to work. So the slaves developed the practice of felling a big tree in the summer and putting it under water, bringing it out to be the Yule log, and for as long as it burned the slaves were free from arduous labor.
@survivethejive Apologies for my hasty comments on this video. I very much respect your work and all you've done your channel has had a positive impact on myself and the world. I would just like to add that though I am not sure on the subject because I have not done sufficient research on the subject; I have read before that the Christmas tree tradition in the German comes from specifically the Rhineland area and was spread by Prussians later on from the Rhineland tradition. Though similar traditions exist in more eastern European countries as well. There has been some suggestion that these practices in Eastern European countries come from Pre-Christain traditions; I am also unsure of that since I would need to do much more research to confirm this. Currently I am busy writing a short research paper on other subjects relating to "Germanic/Nordic" culture (which ever word you prefer since I find those words very interchangeable). But to make it clear, I never suggested even in my previous hasty comments that is was a Jól tradition or a religious practice. I'm simply suggesting that it may come from similar Germanic/Nordic and Slavic folk traditions (in certain localities) in the winter that may pre-date Christianity. I will say that this is speculative since I currently don't have the time to do thorough research on this subject specifically. I appreciate that you brought up that this folk tradition does not related to Pagan Jól practices because it has opened up a new subject of search for me. I will admit I responded to hastily and passionately to what you said and thoroughly appreciate what you do. Thank you for your good work and being an inspiration for many young minds who are interested in the study of history and native European culture including paganism.
Yessssss🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 thanks guys!!!
No problem. ;)
It the book only available from Canada? I'm just checking there's not a UK version without shipping.
it is available worldwide. All orders are shipped from Latvia but the prices display in Canadian dollars at present,
@@Survivethejive ok thanks for the fast reply.
Rather than Christian influence on Germanic myth, you should be looking at Finnish Pagan influence. The Balder-Hothr story as told by Adam of Bremen is quite different.
ITS FUCKING NOVEMBER GOD DAMNIT!!!
lol. I know, but hey, we have a book to promote!
@@Steininger_Art yeah you and all other corporate Fucks that start promoting Christmas shit November First. BUY BUY BUY IM SICK OF IT!!
yeah that's when everyone does their Christmas shopping. I did mine all last week
I always thought the tree and baubles were related to the amanita muscaria mushroom, which lives in a relationship with pine trees. I was told Eastern (maybe Lithuania) European shamans would hang the big red mushrooms in the pine trees to dry before a ritual. Also reindeer love them and if you drink the piss of a reindeer that has eaten them, you trip. And might see one or two flying.
Maybe complete bollox but it all seems to fit.
Durin the Christian conversions it would seem logical to bring the tree into the house so the ritual could be done in private. The tree would be put near the fire to assist with the drying of the shooms.
AncientFinnish, Finno-Ugric, Eurasian cultures had shaman. The shaman would travel by deer/elk from his community up into the sky into the next real where he would retrieve the gift of wisdom that was needed for his people. He would return to the earth's surface and present his people with this gift. So, we have a wise man flying with deer into the sky. That sounds mighty familiar.
A mí que alguien me explique por qué Survive the Jive le hace juego a la narrativa mediática sobre Egipto, Sumeria y demás. ¿Hay que recordarle que en la Triple Alianza de América central se creía en un territorio insular y al Norte de nombre Tula? ¿O esta partecita también la obviaron los biógrafos y escribanos ingleses?
Is that where the word eulogy comes from? Like learning from the year or the years end/ study of the year? Could easily google but it's more fun this way haha. Just remember biology... Bio - Life, logy - study.... Eul - ogy
In Greek, a meaning of "eu" can be "good." "Logos" means "word," so "eulogy" means "good words." Nothing at all to do with Yule.
St Nicholas was NOT Turkish! Any Greek will make you wash your mouth out at that assertion!
he was Anatolian not Greek
Well the Anatolian natives at the time of the Turkish invasion were Greek in language and culture and any descendants who weren't assimilated into Turkish culture and language consider themselves 100% Greek today
@@Survivethejive Big assertion big guy but wrong. He was Greek. Patara 270 AD was Greek
The Greeks that fled the genocide in what is now known as Turkey identify as Greek, and their native language is closer to old Greek than any other currently living form of the language. He was Greek.
Hi Varg
What no Kwanzaa ?
During the church nativity play, my little one asked innocently "Why are we celebrating a baby that was born to die?" To a child they probably think it's such a tragic story! Then I looked into the history of Christmas...We're Muslim now, see my video testimony
I don't see how switching your worship to a man who slaughtered adults is much better....at that, one who was clearly inspired by christianity. I would recommend continuing to learn about pre abrahamic faiths connected to your personal ethno cultural background. Good luck.
28 x 13 = 364, plus a 7 day Jubilee week every 7 years = 365, plus an extra 7 day Jubilee week every 28 years = 365.25 day year. Or 6 years of 52 week years and every 7th year is 53 week year and every 28 years a 54 week year. The 13 month Calendar
I usually just work. Like the 365 other days.
So you celebrate Yule all year round 🤔
Mighty cute Canadian
Mistletoe = ancient Rohypnol with added benefits of morning after pill effects... “kiss” under the mistletoe anyone 🤫
There's a biological issue with Santa's reindeer being male. They're depicted as still having antlers after the rut, when the males have shed their antlers. Those sleigh pulling reindeer are female.
Jesus was born on December 25th proven from the bible!
Zacharias entered the Holy of Holies to offer incense (feast of sukkot late September) and there he had a vision of an angel of the Lord who announced to him the birth of his son, whom he was to call John. Soon after that, Elizabeth, his wife, became pregnant six months later, the angel Gabriel appears to the Virgin Mary and announces to her that she will bear the Son of God and also reveals to her that her cousin Elizabeth is already in her sixth month of pregnancy (Luke 1:30-37).
Elizabeth became pregnant in the latter part of September (after the Feast of Tabernacles) and the Virgin Mary became pregnant six months later in the latter part of March. If we count nine months from that time we end up at the latter part of December, which is the time when Jesus was born. Hence, the celebration of Christmas on December 25 is justified
@EmtronVenger uh... what type of winters do you think they have in Jerusalem?...
They are on the same parallel as the middle of Texas. Last December 25th Jerusalem was in the 70s.
@Yahweh Official I show you proof wheres your proof?
Now if you use the julian calendar then it shows jesus was born in the first week of January.
But wheres your proof of February?
Ok, because I've liked prior to watching I think I've earned the right to comment before too. The comment being, I hope this video alludes to Saturnalia.
we do mention it
@@Survivethejive I should be more versed in northern european paganism but it's that much more difficult than merely picking up Euripides, Ovid, etc, (even later poets and writers like Shakespeare, Gibbon and beyond), and simply immersing oneself in classical literature.
An interesting discussion, by the way.
acuerdate de cuando empezaste a segregar por razas a tus seguidores, LO RECUERDAS? NO?
yo si
28 x 13 = 364, plus a 7 day Jubilee week every 7 years = 365, plus an extra 7 day Jubilee week every 28 years = 365.25 day year. Or 6 years of 52 week years and every 7th year is 53 week year and every 28 years a 54 week year. The 13 month Calendar