Really enjoy watching your videos, love the roads you get to ride, although I don't envy you through the winter months.😎 I also have a crf 250l and enjoy it a lot, even though I ride the streets of London. There is some byways we can ride but nowhere near the freedom you have at your fingertips. Best wishes, and keep those vids coming👍 Top man.
BlastsFromTheSaddle Love to hear about your days in London, on one of your rides in that fantastic location. I crave to live somewhere like you do, but am wise enough to know the grass is always greener....Keep those vids coming.😎
Ah yes, that saying is true at times. But sometimes... the grass really is greener across the way. Loved London for 6 good years, but ultimately I wanted more nature at my doorstep. Got it. Love it. I do miss London though for everything it offers; the history, the people, the cultures.
I live where it's constant speeds of 70mph(112kph). And an hour to any decent off-roading. I do light off-roading at home from time to time. And have to take dirt roads or gravel roads depending on wish town I'm going to. Any who, I was thinking about going with some 60/40 tires and changing up the gearing a bit. I was wondering if y'all here in the comment section has any suggestions or advice?
Hopefully others will chime in. My thoughts are: Go with a good 50/50 tire like Heidenau Scout K60 front and rear, or Shinko 700 front and rear. Both of these tires handle very nicely on fast highway. The Heidenau will last longer perhaps and possibly hook up a bit better on gravel roads. Both handle dirt well for a 50/50 tire. Good compromises basically. Gearing: If your off road terrain is fairly flat, then stick with stock gearing. If the highways and dirt terrain are hilly or mountainous, then I'd say go with 14/42 sprockets. That will give you better off-road performance without raising rpm too high in 6th on the highway.
Do you have stock exhaust? Stock suspension? Tires? What's the best sprocket combination for mostly off road in the Okanagan? I'm not being sarcastic. I really have no idea.
Yoshi full system exhaust, Shinko 700 tires fore and aft, K&N Air Filter, and EJK Fuel Controller. For mostly off road I think 14/45 is the best gearing. That's what I am running right now.
What length links of chain did you need for this 14/45 sprocket setup? Did you need to mod anything else for this to work? Also I enjoy watching your videos, keep up the good work.
If I recall, I purchased a 110 link chain and removed a complete link making it 108. Stock is 106. It may be possible to use 106 and have the wheel more forward. You'll have to experiment with that. Nothing else is needed, Just make sure to loosen the rear sprocket nuts while holding the hex bolts with a good hex wrench. Don't try to turn the bolts; they'll strip too easily. If you need to torque the nuts you'll need an open end wrench fitting on your torque wrench. I just tightened them up good by hand feel. Those nuts are self locking. Thanks :-)
Oh, and I forgot to mention that you will have to reverse the rubber on the chain guide below the rear sprocket. Installing that rubber upside down prevents the chain being stressed. Gives it enough room.
Good video - I sold my Africa Twin last week - The number one replacement choice is the Honda CRF250L Rally. Based on reading all the comments here it seems that 14 / 43 would still be able to use the original chain. And If I plan some tough off road just go to a 13 front for that adventure only - then switch back. Does that seem like a logical plan?
I guess you meant to say 14/43. If so, then yes, that would be a good gearing choice to use all round really. You'll find it is quite capable of serious off road with that gearing. Of course, throwing on a 13 tooth on the front if you're going to do a weekend of tricky off road stuff would be a nice option. BTW, you may find a 43 tooth sprocket hard to find. If so, 14/42 is a nice ratio, and 13/42 is super popular for this bike. My current gearing is 14/45 which is about the same ratio as 13/42. And yes, you can use the stock 106 link chain and you won't have to adjust the lower chain guide. Should be fun :-)
@@Scoottoots Thanks for the reply - yes I did an edit on my first message to 14 / 43 :) This company is where I bought my Africa Twin sprockets. And where I will buy CRF 250 sprockets. www.sprocketcenter.com has lots of selection Here is the 43 tooth listed and 42 and 40 sprocketcenter.com/off-road-sprockets/honda/crf-250l-13-18/superlite-rs7-series-black-520-pitch-steel-rear-sprocket-honda.html Courtney.
@@yessure5291 Sounds good. Though I did notice all sizes on that page are listed as "Out of Stock." Renthal make a 43 tooth for the bike, as do some other makers, but I always found no stock on the 43. Maybe you'll be luckier than I. I usually ran with Renthal ultralight, but this time around I chose the Sunstar brand steel sprocket and got it from the local dealer.
So are we saying that the speedo sensor runs off the front sprocket or the front wheel? If it runs off the front sprocket i would have thought that a 14/42 combo would not affect the speedo reading much, nor 14/45. But I can understand a greater difference if using the 13 front.
The sensor for the speedo reads the rear wheel rotation. That's why changing anything related to gearing, be it front sprocket, rear sporcket, or rear tire diameter, the speedo is affected.
Your bike sounds really good, and nice video, great scenery there. I've been thinking about getting a CRF250L but still haven't done it yet. I have a '99 XR250R which of course is a pure dirt bike, so I can't ride it on the street. I'd like to be able to ride on the street also. The XR250R is truly superb off-road on mountain trails, and I'm wondering how well the CRF250L would be on the same trails. I know it's heavier, but is it good off-road? I may just get a DR650 and use it as a street bike only, but I can't make up my mind yet!
Thanks, Trevor. Compared to your dirt bike the 250L will at first seem under powered and clumsy by comparison, I would think. Coming from a street riding background I find the 250L quite good on trails. If you aren't expecting a fast single track bike, then the 250L is a great balance between dirt and street. Best way in your case is to test ride the 250l and the dr650 and take them onto some dirt to get a feel.
14/43 is great if you can find a 43 tooth sprocket. I used 14/42 for a long time and it was a very good compromise that performed well enough on dirt and highway. Chain and sprocket life were fairly good as well. My last gearing before selling the bike was 14/45; excellent for dirt and city riding, and a greater compromise on highways.
Good show. Same bike. Same province... have to get and burn some gas but until then.... Did you use the original chain? or did you have to buy a new one. I am waiting and could be waiting three more weeks for a 42, I think I can get a 45 but dont want to buy new chain yet. Damb good point about less wear and I never do like lessening teeth on the front as it makes such a tight turn. cheers.
I replace the sprockets and chain all together, always, so this was a new chain. I went a bit longer (108 instead of 106). That put the adjusters about midway. I wonder if the stock length would have worked. Not sure now :-). The 14/42 combo is a good one. Shame you have to wait so long for a 42 though. That's strange. Usually Honda dealers have them in stock. Also FortNine carries them. Cheers :-)
My bike only has 2000km on it so I do not need a new chain I need lower gearing. They had 13 tooth front so I got it. Better but not low enough for me. At this point if I can use the original chain I can get the 45 tooth rear go back to 14 front and I get a better set up and I get it now. A little ocd or I like to call it a realist... I could get the 45 and see if it fits. If not I will wait for the 42 and when I have worn out the 13/42 I will already own the 14/45 and just need a new chain at that point. One would think the dealer should be able to answer for me if the 14/45 will fit with stock chain. There has to be a chart somewhere. Made by chain and sprocket company. cheers
Man, I can't recal but I think I got away with stock 106 links. I have 14/45 and purchased a 110 link chain at the same time, then cut it down appropriately. Best to change chain anytime you change sprockets unless your sprockets are brand new and you're changing just for the gearing.
@@MotoLove777 Ah, I see. I don't get into needing to lift the wheel so I can't say really. I easily lifted the wheel quite high with stock gearing however so I image it would be easier with 14/45. I don't have this bike anymore. I have the 300L.
Off the top of my head, I think I purchased a 110 link and removed two, making it a 108 link. I'd have to count to be certain and can't get to it right now.
I think it's a mite easier to just correct the speedometer with the Speedo DRD than do "just math." I did before but couldn't recall if I changed it after the last gearing change. It's all good though ;-)
Hello Sir, Im looking at buying one of these. would I be able to flat foot this stopped at a redlight. Im 6'6 with a 29 inch inseem. Or if I may ask how tall are you. Can you flat foot this at a redlight. By the way I like the videos keep them coming. May GOD bless you and ride safe.
Not sure what you refer to as 'slide.' If you mean the chain guide at the rear of the swingarm, then, I flipped the rubber in the chain guide upside down. That lowers the rubber to accommodate the chain that is lower due to the larger sprocket.
Scoot Toots thanks i guess my bike sucks on finding specific parts, specifically in rear sprocket on SEA. Any suggestions you can give on where i can order it? Seems here is not legit
@@ljsablad04 I hadn't heard of the model before. I guess it is produced for a small market. You might check with these people. They sell that model in the Philippines: www.hondaph.com/motor/the-new-crf150l . Perhaps they can supply sprocket choices to fit. Other than that you'd have to take the bike down to a honda dealer and physically compare the sprocket to other CRF_L models for a match.
As always...Lovely places to ride and thank you for sharing. I was interested to hear about your knee issue. I do a lot of mountain bike riding, both competitive and just because I love it. I've had knee problems over the years so if I might offer some advice? Cycling is a great way to keep fit generally and to keep your joints flexible (hops, knees, ankles). Ensure that your bike is set up correctly or the joints may experience stress (and injury). Saddle height and the fore/aft position is important. A local bike shop, or a buddy who cycles a lot will give you valuable input for yr setup. Regards from S Africa Clive
Hey Clive, thanks for the advice on cycling. I completely agree. I used to be an ardent cyclist (road bike). Use to ride about 40 hard miles in the hills per day. I also X-Country skied, and was a competitive runner. Added to that, at various times in my life since I was 14, I weight trained. Martial arts, Tai Chi, Chi Gung have also been a big part of life for me. Lots of fitness experience there, and lots of reasons why I have some issues I guess. Currently I am focusing on an exercise program to help correct the knee issue. We'll see how that goes. Again, thanks for the input. I appreciate it :-)
It was previously corrected for altered gearing, so it's only out a small amount. 3.4% to be exact. I tested yesterday. I'll be recalibrating the Speedo DRD today to get it spot-on.
If you go to 12 O'Clock Labs website for the Speedo DRD, there is an app to use to get a number to adjust the unit by. The instructions come with the unit and are also on the website. Good little piece of equipment to have if you change gearing or tire diameter.
Yeah, even a stock bike with gearing changes can be out by 10%. Mine was when stock. I have the SpeedoDRD device installed to correct the reading. A gps test after this video showed it to be reading 2% to 3% low.
I had no ideal that we sold Motorcycles Majored in kilometers per hour I thought in the US that we sold more cycles in miles per hour You're speaking English What part of the United States you're from Your bike is always sleep not US sold model I'm just saying
I'm in Canada. We use the metric system, same as most countries in the world ;-). So this bike is a Canadian model. It also has no evap canister that is standard on the US model I think. Otherwise it is the same.
Really enjoy watching your videos, love the roads you get to ride, although I don't envy you through the winter months.😎 I also have a crf 250l and enjoy it a lot, even though I ride the streets of London. There is some byways we can ride but nowhere near the freedom you have at your fingertips. Best wishes, and keep those vids coming👍 Top man.
Cheers, Daniel. The CRF250L would be a good ride on those London streets. I used to live in London for a few years.
BlastsFromTheSaddle Love to hear about your days in London, on one of your rides in that fantastic location. I crave to live somewhere like you do, but am wise enough to know the grass is always greener....Keep those vids coming.😎
Ah yes, that saying is true at times. But sometimes... the grass really is greener across the way. Loved London for 6 good years, but ultimately I wanted more nature at my doorstep. Got it. Love it. I do miss London though for everything it offers; the history, the people, the cultures.
I live where it's constant speeds of 70mph(112kph). And an hour to any decent off-roading. I do light off-roading at home from time to time. And have to take dirt roads or gravel roads depending on wish town I'm going to.
Any who, I was thinking about going with some 60/40 tires and changing up the gearing a bit. I was wondering if y'all here in the comment section has any suggestions or advice?
Hopefully others will chime in. My thoughts are: Go with a good 50/50 tire like Heidenau Scout K60 front and rear, or Shinko 700 front and rear. Both of these tires handle very nicely on fast highway. The Heidenau will last longer perhaps and possibly hook up a bit better on gravel roads. Both handle dirt well for a 50/50 tire. Good compromises basically. Gearing: If your off road terrain is fairly flat, then stick with stock gearing. If the highways and dirt terrain are hilly or mountainous, then I'd say go with 14/42 sprockets. That will give you better off-road performance without raising rpm too high in 6th on the highway.
@@Scoottoots thanks a metric ton. I also posted on thumper talk since it seems allot of CRF riders congregate there.
Do you have stock exhaust? Stock suspension? Tires?
What's the best sprocket combination for mostly off road in the Okanagan?
I'm not being sarcastic. I really have no idea.
Yoshi full system exhaust, Shinko 700 tires fore and aft, K&N Air Filter, and EJK Fuel Controller. For mostly off road I think 14/45 is the best gearing. That's what I am running right now.
What length links of chain did you need for this 14/45 sprocket setup?
Did you need to mod anything else for this to work?
Also I enjoy watching your videos, keep up the good work.
If I recall, I purchased a 110 link chain and removed a complete link making it 108. Stock is 106. It may be possible to use 106 and have the wheel more forward. You'll have to experiment with that. Nothing else is needed, Just make sure to loosen the rear sprocket nuts while holding the hex bolts with a good hex wrench. Don't try to turn the bolts; they'll strip too easily. If you need to torque the nuts you'll need an open end wrench fitting on your torque wrench. I just tightened them up good by hand feel. Those nuts are self locking. Thanks :-)
Oh, and I forgot to mention that you will have to reverse the rubber on the chain guide below the rear sprocket. Installing that rubber upside down prevents the chain being stressed. Gives it enough room.
I bought a 120 link and took off 6 links for 14 45 gearing also had to trim bottom plastic chain gaurd to clear bigger sprocket.
Good video - I sold my Africa Twin last week - The number one replacement choice is the Honda CRF250L Rally. Based on reading all the comments here it seems that 14 / 43 would still be able to use the original chain. And If I plan some tough off road just go to a 13 front for that adventure only - then switch back. Does that seem like a logical plan?
I guess you meant to say 14/43. If so, then yes, that would be a good gearing choice to use all round really. You'll find it is quite capable of serious off road with that gearing. Of course, throwing on a 13 tooth on the front if you're going to do a weekend of tricky off road stuff would be a nice option. BTW, you may find a 43 tooth sprocket hard to find. If so, 14/42 is a nice ratio, and 13/42 is super popular for this bike. My current gearing is 14/45 which is about the same ratio as 13/42. And yes, you can use the stock 106 link chain and you won't have to adjust the lower chain guide. Should be fun :-)
@@Scoottoots Thanks for the reply - yes I did an edit on my first message to 14 / 43 :) This company is where I bought my Africa Twin sprockets. And where I will buy CRF 250 sprockets.
www.sprocketcenter.com has lots of selection
Here is the 43 tooth listed and 42 and 40
sprocketcenter.com/off-road-sprockets/honda/crf-250l-13-18/superlite-rs7-series-black-520-pitch-steel-rear-sprocket-honda.html
Courtney.
@@yessure5291 Sounds good. Though I did notice all sizes on that page are listed as "Out of Stock." Renthal make a 43 tooth for the bike, as do some other makers, but I always found no stock on the 43. Maybe you'll be luckier than I. I usually ran with Renthal ultralight, but this time around I chose the Sunstar brand steel sprocket and got it from the local dealer.
So are we saying that the speedo sensor runs off the front sprocket or the front wheel? If it runs off the front sprocket i would have thought that a 14/42 combo would not affect the speedo reading much, nor 14/45. But I can understand a greater difference if using the 13 front.
The sensor for the speedo reads the rear wheel rotation. That's why changing anything related to gearing, be it front sprocket, rear sporcket, or rear tire diameter, the speedo is affected.
Yup, my michelin knobblies and 13/48 gearing show 160kph on the motorway.....yeeha!
The lower chain guide from a CRF150F is a direct fit. I have one on mine.
Yes, I've heard that. Reversing the rubber seems to work well though, for now anyway. Probably better to get the 150F guide in future. Cheers :-)
Did you have to trim your bottom white plastic chain guard to have clearance for bigger sprocket?
No, I turned the rubber insert upside down. That provides clearance for the chain on the larger sprocket.
Your bike sounds really good, and nice video, great scenery there. I've been thinking about getting a CRF250L but still haven't done it yet. I have a '99 XR250R which of course is a pure dirt bike, so I can't ride it on the street. I'd like to be able to ride on the street also. The XR250R is truly superb off-road on mountain trails, and I'm wondering how well the CRF250L would be on the same trails. I know it's heavier, but is it good off-road? I may just get a DR650 and use it as a street bike only, but I can't make up my mind yet!
Thanks, Trevor. Compared to your dirt bike the 250L will at first seem under powered and clumsy by comparison, I would think. Coming from a street riding background I find the 250L quite good on trails. If you aren't expecting a fast single track bike, then the 250L is a great balance between dirt and street. Best way in your case is to test ride the 250l and the dr650 and take them onto some dirt to get a feel.
What do you think about 14/41 or 14/43 gearing? I wanna go up from 40 but only slightly but 14/42 is bad gearing because 42/14=3
14/43 is great if you can find a 43 tooth sprocket. I used 14/42 for a long time and it was a very good compromise that performed well enough on dirt and highway. Chain and sprocket life were fairly good as well. My last gearing before selling the bike was 14/45; excellent for dirt and city riding, and a greater compromise on highways.
Good show. Same bike. Same province... have to get and burn some gas but until then....
Did you use the original chain? or did you have to buy a new one. I am waiting and could be waiting three more weeks for a 42, I think I can get a 45 but dont want to buy new chain yet. Damb good point about less wear and I never do like lessening teeth on the front as it makes such a tight turn. cheers.
I replace the sprockets and chain all together, always, so this was a new chain. I went a bit longer (108 instead of 106). That put the adjusters about midway. I wonder if the stock length would have worked. Not sure now :-). The 14/42 combo is a good one. Shame you have to wait so long for a 42 though. That's strange. Usually Honda dealers have them in stock. Also FortNine carries them. Cheers :-)
My bike only has 2000km on it so I do not need a new chain I need lower gearing. They had 13 tooth front so I got it. Better but not low enough for me. At this point if I can use the original chain I can get the 45 tooth rear go back to 14 front and I get a better set up and I get it now. A little ocd or I like to call it a realist... I could get the 45 and see if it fits. If not I will wait for the 42 and when I have worn out the 13/42 I will already own the 14/45 and just need a new chain at that point. One would think the dealer should be able to answer for me if the 14/45 will fit with stock chain. There has to be a chart somewhere. Made by chain and sprocket company. cheers
Sounds like a good plan. Yeah, I agree, the dealer should be able to say if you need a 108 for 14/45.
My 1988 Elite 250 will do 70+ mph, but it humms along at 60; 100 kph for you in the great white north.
1988; that's cool. yeah that's about where my bike sits with this gearing. Good compromise, slightly in favor of the dirt or the city. Cheers :-)
She sounds grea
if you only change the rear sprocket to 45, do you have to change the chain too?
Man, I can't recal but I think I got away with stock 106 links. I have 14/45 and purchased a 110 link chain at the same time, then cut it down appropriately. Best to change chain anytime you change sprockets unless your sprockets are brand new and you're changing just for the gearing.
@@ScoottootsHow is the 14/45 road and wheelchair performance?
@@MotoLove777 Huh?
@@Scoottoots How was it to lift the front wheel with 14/45 gearwheel
@@MotoLove777 Ah, I see. I don't get into needing to lift the wheel so I can't say really. I easily lifted the wheel quite high with stock gearing however so I image it would be easier with 14/45. I don't have this bike anymore. I have the 300L.
14/45 can use original chain? Thanks in advance
Off the top of my head, I think I purchased a 110 link and removed two, making it a 108 link. I'd have to count to be certain and can't get to it right now.
You don't have to guess at the speedo, it's just math. 104km with that gear ratio is not 100km, it's 92.44km. 40/45=.88x104km=92.44km
I think it's a mite easier to just correct the speedometer with the Speedo DRD than do "just math." I did before but couldn't recall if I changed it after the last gearing change. It's all good though ;-)
Hello Sir, Im looking at buying one of these. would I be able to flat foot this stopped at a redlight.
Im 6'6 with a 29 inch inseem. Or if I may ask how tall are you. Can you flat foot this at a redlight.
By the way I like the videos keep them coming. May GOD bless you and ride safe.
Hi Gerald. Yes you can flatfoot easily at your height. I am 6' tall and easily flat foot. No worries :-)
@@Scoottoots Thanks
and what did you do with the slide after putting on the 45 gear ?
Not sure what you refer to as 'slide.' If you mean the chain guide at the rear of the swingarm, then, I flipped the rubber in the chain guide upside down. That lowers the rubber to accommodate the chain that is lower due to the larger sprocket.
@@Scoottoots i try this thank you, but i think i need made lower handle
Does this certain sprocket fits on crf150L? Thanks
I don't know. You'd have to order specific for that model I would think.
Scoot Toots thanks i guess my bike sucks on finding specific parts, specifically in rear sprocket on SEA. Any suggestions you can give on where i can order it? Seems here is not legit
@@ljsablad04 I hadn't heard of the model before. I guess it is produced for a small market. You might check with these people. They sell that model in the Philippines: www.hondaph.com/motor/the-new-crf150l .
Perhaps they can supply sprocket choices to fit. Other than that you'd have to take the bike down to a honda dealer and physically compare the sprocket to other CRF_L models for a match.
Scoot Toots thanks man ride safe
By bike is exactly like yours It rage miles per hour
As always...Lovely places to ride and thank you for sharing.
I was interested to hear about your knee issue.
I do a lot of mountain bike riding, both competitive and just because I love it.
I've had knee problems over the years so if I might offer some advice?
Cycling is a great way to keep fit generally and to keep your joints flexible (hops, knees, ankles).
Ensure that your bike is set up correctly or the joints may experience stress (and injury).
Saddle height and the fore/aft position is important.
A local bike shop, or a buddy who cycles a lot will give you valuable input for yr setup.
Regards from S Africa
Clive
Hey Clive, thanks for the advice on cycling. I completely agree. I used to be an ardent cyclist (road bike). Use to ride about 40 hard miles in the hills per day. I also X-Country skied, and was a competitive runner. Added to that, at various times in my life since I was 14, I weight trained. Martial arts, Tai Chi, Chi Gung have also been a big part of life for me. Lots of fitness experience there, and lots of reasons why I have some issues I guess. Currently I am focusing on an exercise program to help correct the knee issue. We'll see how that goes. Again, thanks for the input. I appreciate it :-)
Original is 40 you gone up 5 thats 12,5%
So wen the speedo says 112 you are at 100 in reality.
I might be wrong but i think thats it.
It was previously corrected for altered gearing, so it's only out a small amount. 3.4% to be exact. I tested yesterday. I'll be recalibrating the Speedo DRD today to get it spot-on.
How do you do that?
If you go to 12 O'Clock Labs website for the Speedo DRD, there is an app to use to get a number to adjust the unit by. The instructions come with the unit and are also on the website. Good little piece of equipment to have if you change gearing or tire diameter.
Thanks, I'll check it out!
Around 100 km/h my speedo is 10km/h too high in comparison with my gps. 110 is 100, 120 is 110, 130 is 120
Yeah, even a stock bike with gearing changes can be out by 10%. Mine was when stock. I have the SpeedoDRD device installed to correct the reading. A gps test after this video showed it to be reading 2% to 3% low.
Final speed?
If you mean top speed, with that set up and the mods, top end was about 133 kph gps verified.
I had no ideal that we sold Motorcycles Majored in kilometers per hour I thought in the US that we sold more cycles in miles per hour You're speaking English What part of the United States you're from Your bike is always sleep not US sold model I'm just saying
I'm in Canada. We use the metric system, same as most countries in the world ;-). So this bike is a Canadian model. It also has no evap canister that is standard on the US model I think. Otherwise it is the same.
Your accent Doesn't sound like kilometers per hour accent Sounds like miles per hour accent in your language I'm just saying
Guess you haven't traveled much dude.
And lines n tunies is some of their money! lol
meant loonies