Depends on your TV. If you have a normal HD TV it’s fine. But if you have a good massive 4K TV, 1080p doesn’t cut it anymore, then you can see the difference with 4K Blu-ray and Blu-ray.
I have a Sony region free Bluray player that plays DVD's and Bluray disc, plugged into a 4K TV. Yet 4K players are something Im not interested in at the moment. Yes I have the Bluray+4K movie releases so if I ever get a 4k player I have some disc to use them on. But hell Bluray still looks damn great!! I even own DVD movies that are dual layer format and they still look good.
I'm personally go for the highest quality possible within reason. I use a CRT TV for DVDs I frankly find the video quality to be much better especially via RGB SCART much better even more so than even upscaled, I personally found widescreen DVDs on my LED TV looking strange, but on my widescreen CRT TV. I can't stand streaming even though I have paid for a Crunchyroll Mega Fan subscription, DVDs like you said are dirt cheap even new condition. It's also worth pointing out these video comparisons on here will look compressed opposed to in real life. I appreciate you bringing up the streaming services but one thing is worth pointing out is the video quality will not be as good as the physical copy due to your Internet connection even via Ethernet, people have said 4K streaming looks worse than 1080p Blu-Ray. I have bought DVDs, Blu-Rays and 4K Ultra HD Blu-Rays which I have not watched at all before and I on average did enjoy them.
I agree, it's very personal, some 4k transfers have too much DNR, are too dark and sometimes differ very little from the blu-ray quality, some are really good transfers but you have to do your research before spending for nothing or worse, as far as DVD's or VHS are concerned, unless some one still have a CRT I think the quality will suffer too much.
In the end it all comes down to enjoying the movie. I had an old SD resolution TV until a few years ago then jumped straight to 4k. The jump in quality was staggering. After getting a number of 4k movies I got some blurays since they weren't available on 4k. Whenever I watch any of my old DVDs I really notice the drop in quality, so I only get DVDs now if there's no other option. A good bluray can still be highly enjoyable, I've noticed that newer bluray releases are usually better than older ones, regardless of the age of the actual movie. I'm sure the same is true for 4k in general. I do hope 4k does stick around, because older movies can look incredible in 4k. But that doesn't mean we have to have all our movies in 4k or even bluray.
I will agree with what you said, movies should be enjoyed in whatever way you want to enjoy movies, now I just want to add, 4K adds more then just 4k resolution, it generally adds Atmos, or DTS:X so you are getting better sound, and picture… that is as long as you have the ability to enjoy the new 4k with all of its added bonuses, 4k tv, an Atmos/dts:X, auro enabled receiver… with some good sub woofers… it can make a difference,
95% percent of my collection is blu ray the rest is dvd and 4k in that order. I actually prefer blu ray! Special ones get 4k treatment, LOTR, Jaws, etc….
I don't have a 4K screen so 4K Blu-Ray is mostly moot to me. That being said, I am hoping to buy an optical drive version of either the XBox Series X or the Playstation 5 for my 50th birthday later this year so I'll at least be able to watch 4K Blu-Rays downscaled to 720p (lol). I've already planned my first two 4K Blu-Ray purchases, Wayne's World and Ferris Bueller's Day Off, although, interestingly, neither film I want on 4K because I think they'll look significantly better than the regular Blu-Rays but rather because Paramount restored features for both those films on the 4K releases. (For the Wayne's World 4K, Paramount finally worked out the music licensing with Led Zeppelin so that Wayne is actually playing the first few notes of "Stairway to Heaven" on the guitar in the "No Stairway? Denied!" scene, as heard in theatres in 1992, instead of the generic guitar riff heard in previous home video releases and the Ferris Bueller's Day Off 4K finally brings back the John Hughes commentary track from the 1999 DVD).
Well, if your intent is to watch 4K u. HD blue rays. I highly recommend unless you plan on gaming as well. Steer clear of the Xbox Series X and/or PlayStation 5 as the quality they output for 4K. U, h, d, blu rays, is not that great. You really want a dedicated 4K UHD player such?As like the one I have the panasonic ub420k
@@notuptome I'll be watching them on a 19" LCD RCA (TCL) screen from Walmart so video quality isn't that much of a concern to me. If I had a proper 4K screen, I'd probably also get a standalone 4K player, but that's not in the cards any time soon.
Technology like 4K is always improving and becoming faster better etc Blu ray is good enough even DVD Problem is Hollywood movies aren’t as good anymore. Gaming graphics are amazing but the rest is the same $$ boring recipe-200+ hours.
I appreciate these videos man. I’m glad somebody is emphasizing how personal a collection is. A lot of collectors care about other people’s opinions. They like things based on what others tell them to like.
I have a friend who is a snob for UHD 4K, and will tolerate Blu Ray. He has zero love for anything less. I, however, am easily satisfied. If the picture is clear and the sound is good, I am fine. I still have a 1080p TV, and honestly my dvds are just fine for me. I grew up with VHS, so I know what crap really looks like. 😆 I love collecting dvds and Blu Rays because they allow me to build an amazing collection for very little money. I walked out of my local pawn shop the other day with 11 dvds for $9 total. I own only one 4K UHD, Transformers the movie from 1986, only because that film is special to me, and I wanted the steelbook it came in. Collect what you love!
Came here to say the exact same thing, but you beat me to it. My childhood was in the 80's and early 90's I stomached movies/TV recorded show's that needed tracking adjustments.... I watched stuff that was skewed at the top of the screen. DVD is fine for me, although I do have a few Blu Ray movies. The reason I have Blu-ray's is I've effectively future proofed my favorite movies/shows it's also that I got them dirt cheap second hand. I'm from the UK... Second hand DVD's can be found at 10 for a £1 and Blu Ray's can be found at 50p-£2 for 1 second hand. Side note: Don't get me started on CD's.
Then there is so much your friend has volunteered to miss out on, most of the TV shows before the 2010s are only on DVD, a good bit of movies and documentaries and comedy shows never made it past DVD, even the ones that made it to Blu-ray, a great many never made it to 4K.
I have a 4K snob friend too. He is always getting on my butt about getting a 4K TV, like dude, just cause you're in love with 4K doesn't mean I have to be, lol. I am fine with Blu-Rays and DVDs as well.
I dont own many 4k blu rays. Im happy with blu ray. I will buy blu ray and even dvd 99% of the time. I dont really like blind buying 4ks because of the price. If I really emjoy the film on blu ray I may double dip on 4k.
The difference isn't enough for me to justify buying a 4k TV, player and discs. I got glasses a couple yrs ago and that made more a difference than picture resolution
Aside from a good player, most people need a bigger TV, at least 65", and need to sit closer. Most people over a certain age were brought up taught that you should sit a certain distance from the tube because supposedly it was bad for the eyes to sit close, but ideally you probably don't want to sit any further than about 6 feet from a 65" to 75" screen to get the most from the increased resolution. And of course some 4K releases are better than others. ;)
I'm so glad you brought this topic up. It seems these days, everyone is losing their mind to own 4K. I just got back into physical media again, and I got myself a Sony Blu-ray player, and I have a 75"tv. I'm more than happy with the performance and quality of Blu-ray. Just because a new kid's on the block🤔We are so quick to forget what we have.🇨🇦🇯🇲❤️👊🏽
I love my 42" plasma TV. Movies, especially old movies, which is mostly what I watch look best on plasma. I don't watch TV shows, I'm not into the CGI spectacles, I don't watch sports. They don't make plasmas anymore. I bought mine in 2007 for $1200. It still works perfectly. I'm not going to throw it in the trash to buy a new TV that will probably have to be replaced every couple years. I'm gonna keep this plasma as long as possible. Blu-ray looks great on it.
The only expectation for a movie lover and collector that I have is buy what you love (and will rewatch eventually) and buy what you can comfortably afford. Don't worry about how much others have.
I personally think that Blu-ray was a big upgrade from DVD, but going to 4k is quite often not much of a leap beyond that. With that said, there are some 4K discs with HDR that are truly jaw dropping, however there have been quite a few 4k releases of films that I have on Blu-ray that are really underwhelming and not worth the money. I really think it depends on the standard of transfer for each release and I’ve seen some blu rays that look better than some 4K discs. You are dead right that you should just collect what the hell you want to collect. That should be the only gold standard.
@AngelValdez-mr3fq Well, we're sorry we're not uptight arseholes with eagle eye genes who define our experiences by how toxic we can be to other enthusiasts.
@h8GW You don't need an eagle eye ln 65 inch tv. I'm not being toxic but your comment might mislead someone into thinking it's not worth the upgrade when it is night and day in details. Would you buy a TV only capable of 1080p over a 4k tv? No you would not. So why do that with physical media?
Blu ray is a great format still. Became cheaper thanks to 4k. I love 4k and all. If i see a super cheap blu ray set that costs as much as on 4k. I am grabbing the blu ray collection. Blu ray will still be the backbone to many collections.
Yes, me too. DVD will look quite nicely on a good Blu-ray player that upscales it'll be perfectly fine enough for most people including myself. I don't mind that so-called lower quality to me it only adds something. I grew up with dirt and specs on film anyway it's part of it, not this clinically presented spotless stuff. It's crazy, how some people suddenly can't watch a format we all used before with no complaints whatsoever. It is, like Jamie so correctly says, all about enjoying the movie itself and the cozy experience of favourite movies more so than having some latest format that the business vultures want you to buy. People need to think for themselves and their own preferences, listen less to 'experts'.
I still do DVD even if I am hunting for Blu-Ray now. 4K probably has some major differences from 1080p Blu-Rays but it does not mean my Blu-Rays are worthless or even my DVDs either You make a great point
my dad has a 4k 75 inch tv. Blue rays still look very good. 4ks clearly look better, but the blue rays certainly dont look bad at all. Dvds are pretty rough though 👀
I'm not a 4k collector. I don't find it necessary for me. I've seen 4k disc displayed on high end equipment and I've seen Blu Ray played on a upscaled high end player and same equipment...It was shocking how amazing the Blu Ray was . I for one isn't someone who just dump formats for the new one. I still have Laserdisc and DVD. Blu Ray's are a steal for what the maximum quality you can get from them with equipment that's properly set up. Yes, i know a lot of the time it's the source material too. But mainly Blu Ray properly set up can fool most thinking they are watching 4k disc. The price amount in comparison, plus the awful AI remastering of disc now is another reason not to jump to that format. Online Home theater magazines and other media review sites tell you what they say is better. Specs aren't always what it seems .
It's good to adjust you're perception of these formats. We should be happy with any formats there is available to us. 4k can be amazing, but also a well done bluray transfer can be satisfying. Not all movies needs a 4k treatment, but all of them deserve physical media treatment.
Excellent vid, you said it so well: it literally does not matter what other people feel about your format of choice, they are not going to be at your house watching it with you. So to hell with their opinion!
💯. How many times can you sell me Star Wars and LOTR? I've bought all my favorite films on VHS, DVD, and now Blu-ray. I'm done. I've spent thousands over the years. No more. Blu-ray is my final format.
For me, when I decided I was going to start collecting more physical media, 4k was starting to be talked about. I was buying my favorites on Blu Ray but I didnt go all in quite yet. Then once 4k came out, I started buying all the movies I wanted on 4k even though I still had a regular blu ray player since the 4k set also came with a 1080p blu ray. When I finally got a 4k player, I already had a nice collection of 4k discs to watch on it.
In Canada most 4K's I like are $50! You gotta be independently wealthy to collect! Kino, Shout, Vinegar ect are expensive! Conversion & shipping are crazy.
In my own opinion it is not bad for me to buy 4k copies of the 80’s and 90’s movies because we know that video quality that time was not so good. Blu-rays nowadays are stunning so I buy blu-rays instead of 4k’s
I was debating on getting Aliens 4K until a TH-camr put it side-by-side with the previous Blu-ray. Turns out the newest release was just an AI upscale with DNR on the older Blu-ray master, which had already been sourced from a 4k scan.
that isn't a fair representation of the work done on the 4k version. The HDR color grade alone was more effort then you are giving them credit for, and the main reason to consider it over the bluray if you have a quality TV. Resolution isn't everything.
@@Antimonkat That’s fair. My issue isn’t with HDR color-grading more-so than the elimination of natural grain that contributed to the atmospheric texture of the movie - I’m one of those suckers for that filmic look.
Blurays makes up most of my collection In most cases Im content with the bluray but I have 100 4ks now and most of them do look slightly better than a regular bluray some are amazing then I have some movies on 4k that arent really necessary like the movie Snatch is a great 4k but the movie itself doesnt have great visuals its totally fine on bluray and others I cant even tell the difference. I have lots of dvds which are totally fine for TV shows and Comedy multipacks.
“ it’s about enjoying the movie” 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 thank you , there are TH-camrs which all they talk about is collecting….collecting it’s never about the movies … just buying boxset after boxset …. It’s the a complete waste of money
Amazing subject and you are so right. People should collect what they love and can afford both monetary and space wise. Nobody should feel like they have to "keep up with the jones"
I don’t have a 4k tv yet so you already know where I stand , now I buy 4k disc now as future reference but I’m not pressed for 4k at all , Blu ray is fine for me, hell some films only have dvd release and im ok with that.
4K is not interesting to me for movies. I was quite enthusiastic about BluRay back in 2007 and got an early PS3 (40GB) in 2008, because I could experience a significant progress in picture quality relative to the DVD, especially on a bigger screen than 32" for example. But 4K does not deliver a similar benefit compared to 1080p. Not even on my 75" screen. It is similar to the recent PC hardware overkill: Why should I buy an RTX 4090 for a lot of money? I'm fine with 1080p gaming and therefore my GTX 1080ti is fast enough even in 2024. Even Alan Wake 2 is perfectly playable after the latest patch.
I have become more selective when buying movies. When I first got into 4K, I thought I needed to have everything that way. But have learned that much of the newer releases there isn't much difference between BD and 4K. Also, Disney animated BDs look good enough and cannot justify double-dipping to replace them with 4K.
@@slimdude2011 That's why I've become more selective when buying 4Ks. I ask myself "Do I need it?" In the beginning, I felt like I needed to upgrade everything. Last year when I watched some Pixar BDs like Toy Story and Wall-E, they looked phenomenal! Plus watched Lion King (1994) on 4K and compared it and saw only subtle differences. Not enough to go out and replace the rest of my Disney BDs. The only one I might consider is Snow White just due to the history of it being their first animated feature.
People are loyal to UHD as a brand, and the films get sidelined. The Cameron 4K films had some very obvious flaws, and a lot of film collectors told us to just shut up and buy it. In a world where every 4K release was perfect and didn’t drop any features, it’d be easier to promote the format as a whole. But if you’re getting a DNR mess with incorrect color timing, or missing soundtracks, are you that much worse off with a $5 DVD?
My dvd of Dune 1984 was poor quality so this year I replaced it with the Arrow 4k release, great quality. Yet watching 80’s and 90’s TV series on dvd (Millennium and Granada Sherlock Holmes series) on a 65 inch Samsung TV upscaled via pananasonic ub820 4k player; picture quality is excellent. What’s the priority the film or the fancy packaging of the latest new format release. Most collectors at least those on TH-cam seem to have lost focus; film first not packaging. Buy what you like not what you are told to buy. Great video!
What else annoys me that the mentality of TH-camrs telling you that Slipcovers are a must. Like, some movies I don't even care to own the Slipcover versions. I usually will pick it up if I can find it but eh, unless its a movie/movie series that I love, then I will get the Slipcovers. Also, I don't have a 4K TV but I pick up 4K versions is if it comes with the Blu-Ray. If it does not, I get the Blu-Ray version instead. DVDs are also fine if I can't find it on Blu-Ray or its stuck on DVD. I recently had gotten Snow White on 4K from Best Buy for $25, then I found the Disney Movie Club Blu-Ray version at my Walmart for $10. I wasn't too sure to have it but I returned the 4K version to save money and used it on another movie. So it was a win-win for me. That Disney Boxset is sick, but we never got that in the US. P.S. K-Mart in the US only exists in two states with two stores: New York and Florida. I miss K-Mart, can we trade your K-Mart for our Target, please?
Back when DVD came out they, just about everyone of them had extra features including alternate endings and cut scenes. What happened to that, I really miss that side of it.
I’ve upgraded some movies to 4k if the Blu-ray release was botched. A lot of my collection is still DVDs and Blu ray. I even still have some of my VHS movies.
I get the appeal of 4K, but I am more than happy with my dvd and blu ray collection. Either way, it's just great that people still enjoy buying all forms of physical media.
Nah bro, the reason 4k is far superior now is the hdr, I rebought lord of the rings in 4k and the night time images are superior. Look if you cant afford it its fine but sont play this game of amsaying its the same.
All completely depends on your setups. Bigger TV's definitely benefit a lot more from higher resolution and refresh rate. Trying watching a 480 dvd on a 75"+ and it is pretty unacceptable lol
Because you showed me that Disney box set, I want it now. Look what you did to me. The funny thing is that most of what's in there is on Disney Plus, and I never watch any of it because I don't like watching kid's content anymore. I wanted to watch many of those titles when I was a kid, but not anymore. :(
4k looks nicer and there is usually more content on the disc, but more often than not I buy DVD or the Blu-ray version, as they are cheaper and easier to find. However I see more use with 4k video recording, as 4k video gives considerably more space to work with when editing.
Yes, DVD is definitely still very much a good viewing experience - on the right equipment, that is. Ironically, not on a standard DVD player but an upscaling Blu-ray player.
I made it like 5 minutes to already coming to something that's just wrong. I objectively there is benefits to owning the best picture you can get. The difference between 4k and hd/blu ray isnt huge but the jump from dvd to a hd format is huge. Buying a DVD version of anything now that 4k screens are the norm is pointless. You'd get better picture quality from a steaming service than a physical DVD. The only argument for DVD is native 4:3 support and a CRT or projector
You're right im going to stick with Bluray for now... i just have a few 4k Blu-rays because i have a PS5 and it plays 4k Bluray .. bluray are still good... i did buy back to the future trilogy 4k because thats one of my favorite movies of all times
Not all 4k films are the same quality. Some Dvd films actually look better than alot of dodgy bluray and 4k releases... lazy transfers.... Dvd format was a creative experience... not any more
Same thing happened when Blu-ray first came out. I just watched one of those early silver case 1080/Beyond HD releases, and the visuals and sound were awful.
The original snap front case DVD's sold in the very late 90s to early 00s were the best. There was no forced advertising or promotion and it went STRAIGHT to the DVD menu on boot up. They not only extended endless creative freedom to the artists, they ENCOURAGED it! Of course, that didn't last long. IMO, these original DVD's are the ones to collect. 4k is meaningless to me.
I recently upgraded all my DVDs to Blu/4k Now been doing Blu to 4k It’s too much and not worth it I had close to 5,000 movies Now I own about 800 Been really trying to sell most and only own ones I watch I started collecting in 2004 So about 20 years now It’s ridiculous with slips steels 4k Double dipping 😂
All the 4ks ive got were like 2 dollars more than the standard bluray, soo two copies of one movie for 25 bucks instead of one for 23? Why not, but yeah it all comes down to setup i collect vhs and i wouldnt recommend it to anyone that isnt willing to keep a crt around. 4ks only really beneficial if you've got like a whole movie theater setup. As for what i buy: online ive got burned with dvd discs being loose in the case and getting destroyed, blu survives the mail. I think people put too much attention on bad transfer, usually just go for the cheapest option unless its a movie i absolutely love. Also as for vhs collecting: i have absolutely upgraded to newer editions because anything that was filmed anamorphically looks like shit when pan and scanned, if 47% of the image is gone it does the film a disservice, likewise for horror collecting a lot of those tapes are censored and are missing what made them infamous.
I disagree, I recently upgraded my receiver and blu ray player specifically for Dolby Atmos, DTS X and Auro 3d. I have a 1080p projector and 150" 16x9 screen. I am not upgrading to a 4k projector until it dies. I have a 7.2.4 set up and am very happy. I have bought over $600 in 4k movies. Music and movies like Blade Runner 2049, Grand Turismo, Mission Impossible Fallout etc. are awesome with 4 height speakers. I agree 4k for visuals is not necessary, although I expect better sharpness on a 150" screen.
I've watched almost all Bond movies on DVD on a 65" 4K OLED TV with a Sony 6700 Bluray player that got 4K upscale, and all movies look GREAT at normal viewing distance! It's like "why do you even need Bluray 1080p discs?" The movies will not be better in Bluray or 4K. Just slightly better picture quality. The price gap between DVDs and Blurays are in many cases now zero or a few percent but Bluray 4K movies costs often maybe 3X as much as Bluray 1080p. Now lately I've seen a very few 4K titles at a much lower cost but still a bit more than normal Bluray discs. Bluray 1080p looks GREAT on a 65" 4K TV with that good Bluray player (Sony 6700: not a 4K player but got a 4K upscaler chip which is great for DVD movies). I'm surprised that DVDs will look THAT good on 65" that you don't really need to replace your DVDs with the same movie on Bluray. Bluray 1080p looks great, so I agree with you: the best buy is Bluray 1080p movies when DVDs and Bluray 1080p cost kind of the same and Bluray 4K cost 2X or 3X (very often) or 4X compared to 1080p. But I have to add that if you got a 98" 8K TV or 80" or something really really big, then you might wanna go for Bluray 4K. TVs up to 65": we really don't need Bluray 4K. Also have to add this that I catched from a video 2-3 years ago. Most movies with a lot of special effects got that in 1080p. So 4K movies got most of these special effects upscaled from 1080p to 4K. Most effects are rendered in 1080p. But of course, with more powerful computers/chips the movie industry are rendering special effects more and more in 4K. It takes so much time for these clusters to render in 4K. 1080p is much faster. It will always come a time when computers are THAT POWERFUL so they don't wanna render in 1080p because it's fast enough with 4K. Steve Jobs told about rendering for Pixar's movies. The computing power increased by 1000X or more over a few years but the rendering was not even faster: because the movie creators wanna have more details in the animations. So the rendering will take as much time as many years ago but with more details and higher resolution. Steve Jobs was the CEO for Pixar. So many of the 4K movies with a lot of special effects got that in 1080p but upscaled to 4K. It's worth to know! But I don't know exactly which movies that got 1080p renderings and 4K renderings or worse than 1080p. Would have been so cool if they could remake Terminator 2 with the computing power of 2024! Terminator 2 was the coolest movie ever when it came out because of the amazing special effects. The golden standard at that time. Anyways I really appreciate your videos! Great topics and so much common sense! You deserve way more views!
So true, thank goodness for Blu-ray players that upscale DVD to 'HD'...it's a match made in heaven. :-] Seriously, this is how I prefer watching a DVD it looks so much better than on a standard DVD player, I feel like I really don't need to do any so-called 'upgrading' of anything to either Blu-ray or even 4K. Mind you, I have a ton of Blu-rays too yet overall, I don't really care which format I watch a movie on DVD is perfectly fine for me too on my trusted Panasonic Blu-ray players.
All my bluray stuff look fantastic through a sony 4k tele and a 4kplayer with excellent quality hdmi..cable's....i have a few 4k movies...ie..Dunkirk and the revenant...but doesn't upgrade as much as it should imo...but with a new oled tv...it will improve...when i have the money 😂
I get 4K blu-rays if they are cheap and I have gotten 4K ones for like $10 and most of the time they come with regular blu-rays that are non-4K but also have the 4K disc. So yeah I will usually wait for the 4K to go down in price before getting it.
I still watch my DVDs , I have upgraded true lies from dvd to 4k like you showed. I’ll still keep my dvd copy too as true lies is a fantastic arnie movie
I tried to catch up with Blu-Rays, but failed when I realized how bad it works on PC for no reason. I don't own a TV and never will. Still watching DvDs.
People automatically think a movie on 4K s better which is not always the case I haven't bought a 4K in a long time as the Blu ray version is good enough for me but if the film is a favourite of mine of which there is a big uptake in video and audio quality then I;ll upgrade example I have ordered a copy of the movie Fargo on 4K from Amazon US via Amazon AU here in Australia
I will buy the 4k UHD if it's available but there are so many movies that aren't so I will buy the Blu-ray. I can still easily go back to 1080p blu ray, it still looks great! We've hit a peak now in quality, you really can't get current or older films to look any better than they do! Going back to DVD for me is a struggle but the difference between 4k and blu ray is negligible unless you're spending the whole movie scanning around the screen.... It seems that only the absolute classics and some boutique labels are getting the 4k treatment anyway. Everything else is only on Blu-ray.
I keep it simple. Only buy the movies I LOVE on 4K. Other than that, I go Blu-ray, or even DVD if I'm being a completest. I never buy random in 4K, and I won't pay for collector's sets, when they mostly only contain paper, like booklets, cards, tiny posters etc. Not paying the premium for that.
I never buy a 4k at full price. For the movies that I will definately re-watch multiple times I do want it in 4k, but I'll wait for a sale before purchasing. A lot of 4k's drop by up to 50% during sales.
I'll say it depends what equipment you have, I am still sticking to Bluray and DVD I can get them cheap and my Projector is not 4K neither do I see myself paying 2 grand for a 4K projector and 3-400 for a player on top, especially not with physical media dying as we speak. now dont get me wrong I can afford it I just dont want to.
@@nightshademilkshake1Same in the UK. Its often £25 4K / £15 Blu Ray for new release. you can usually always find 4Ks for around £15 after a while or look on the second hand market, but its still considerably more expensive than standard Blu Ray. Blu Ray is far more affordable here, and they still look fantastic.
I'm an American in Germany, where the difference is quite large. But I went over to Amazon to look at US price differences: Dune ($23.98 vs $9.96); Shutter Island ($17.99 vs $9.46); Ghostbusters Afterlife ($23.40 vs $15.00); Fargo ($29.59 vs $10.60). Those are just what showed up when I searched "4k" under "Movies." There were a handful of exceptions: "Oppenheimer," with a $2 price difference, or "John Wick: Chapter 4." But also exceptions in the other direction -- "Interstellar" and the the Harry Potter Collection were both nearly three times as expensive on 4k. In Germany, I would say that blu ray titles are comparably priced to US titles or actually cheaper, whereas 4k titles are somewhat more expensive -- that makes the price differences worse. But even in the US, I wouldn't call the difference marginal. It looks like on average, they are 50-90% more expensive.
@@joehavermann7729 For sure that's hardly a marginal difference, it's what pushed me to stop buying 4Ks at the rate I was buying them. Intresting to see how other countries tally upto the US prices nonetheless.
Hi mate. In the usa a new blue ray cost 20 dollars and a 4k WITH the blue ray included cost 25. The way America prices it, you would think a 4k dvd by itself only cost 5 dollars lol.
Its all about the HDR and Dolby Atmos soundtrack. I didnt hear you mention them even once. Those are the reasons to buy into 4k. Not the increase in resolution.
Many people, myself included, only have a 1080p TV and a DVD player, maybe a Blu-ray player. Even the cheap Walmart 4K TVs are a luxury that most of us just can't justify.
@@RandallStevenson in which case then it doesnt make sense. But for those who have them, HDR is the reason. Some movies are absolutely transformed on a good HDR tv
I agree with the HDR thing but Warner bros, Universal, Paramount and even A24 movies that include a Dolby Atmos sound mix are all available on the standard blu-ray option of all recent releases
The people saying this, clearly don’t have good HDR TV’s, they buy the cheapest/largest 4K TV they can find on Black Friday, and think they’re getting a better viewing experience than their 15 year old plasma.
If you have a 4K TV any of your new movie purchases should be 4K. If not, why did you buy the TV? Your existing movie collection is something different. Only your favorites or movies that haven't been watched yet, but have fantastic transfers, should be considered for the 4K purchase. Again, you bought the TV for a reason. Just saying Bluray is cheaper is not the right decision.
4ks at JB are not really expensive.....Dolby Vision, Atmos are worth it. However i agree Blu ray is very very good....thats why i raid my Cash Converters....$5 bargains.
Stop dropping money into Blu-rays. Go to ur local libraries and borrow. U be surprised how big a collection ur local libraries have accrued. If u like a movie just ripped them. Sure u might have to wait awhile for newer releases but so what. Only buy movies that u know u will rewatch more than once.
I’m one of the devotees to 4K, but I think as a collective community, we’re scaring away newer collectors who may not have a spare $40AUD laying around per release, maybe they can only afford a $2 dvd from the Salvos, and there’s nothing wrong with that copy, if they want to own the movie, that’s an outlet to start out and own a movie they love in a price range that works and a format that works for them.
I didn't like the movie True Lies, I wouldn't even buy it on dvd never mind 4k. I only buy movies that I enjoy regardless of the hype among collectors.
Blu Ray still looks great, 4k is the cherry on top.
nah if u want watch good movies go back to 1080p tv with 1080p blu-ray
@@Sammy-34079 "good movies" are available on all formats
Both are good. It’s all depends on the good transfer. Sometimes, a good transferred regular bluray can have better picture quality than 4k uhd.
couldn’t have said it better brother
Best way to put it
Depends on your TV. If you have a normal HD TV it’s fine. But if you have a good massive 4K TV, 1080p doesn’t cut it anymore, then you can see the difference with 4K Blu-ray and Blu-ray.
I have a Sony region free Bluray player that plays DVD's and Bluray disc, plugged into a 4K TV. Yet 4K players are something Im not interested in at the moment. Yes I have the Bluray+4K movie releases so if I ever get a 4k player I have some disc to use them on. But hell Bluray still looks damn great!! I even own DVD movies that are dual layer format and they still look good.
Im quite an audiophile so I tend to get the 4K copies especially when they're upgraded to Dolby Atmos. You get great video and excellent audio.
I'm personally go for the highest quality possible within reason. I use a CRT TV for DVDs I frankly find the video quality to be much better especially via RGB SCART much better even more so than even upscaled, I personally found widescreen DVDs on my LED TV looking strange, but on my widescreen CRT TV. I can't stand streaming even though I have paid for a Crunchyroll Mega Fan subscription, DVDs like you said are dirt cheap even new condition. It's also worth pointing out these video comparisons on here will look compressed opposed to in real life. I appreciate you bringing up the streaming services but one thing is worth pointing out is the video quality will not be as good as the physical copy due to your Internet connection even via Ethernet, people have said 4K streaming looks worse than 1080p Blu-Ray. I have bought DVDs, Blu-Rays and 4K Ultra HD Blu-Rays which I have not watched at all before and I on average did enjoy them.
I agree, it's very personal, some 4k transfers have too much DNR, are too dark and sometimes differ very little from the blu-ray quality, some are really good transfers but you have to do your research before spending for nothing or worse, as far as DVD's or VHS are concerned, unless some one still have a CRT I think the quality will suffer too much.
I personally prefer 4K because I like the HDR and the additional sharpness.
In the end it all comes down to enjoying the movie.
I had an old SD resolution TV until a few years ago then jumped straight to 4k. The jump in quality was staggering.
After getting a number of 4k movies I got some blurays since they weren't available on 4k.
Whenever I watch any of my old DVDs I really notice the drop in quality, so I only get DVDs now if there's no other option.
A good bluray can still be highly enjoyable, I've noticed that newer bluray releases are usually better than older ones, regardless of the age of the actual movie.
I'm sure the same is true for 4k in general.
I do hope 4k does stick around, because older movies can look incredible in 4k.
But that doesn't mean we have to have all our movies in 4k or even bluray.
I will agree with what you said, movies should be enjoyed in whatever way you want to enjoy movies, now I just want to add, 4K adds more then just 4k resolution, it generally adds Atmos, or DTS:X so you are getting better sound, and picture… that is as long as you have the ability to enjoy the new 4k with all of its added bonuses, 4k tv, an Atmos/dts:X, auro enabled receiver… with some good sub woofers… it can make a difference,
Great advise , price wise at the moment I am only buying 4k from US that are on sale . If they are full price I go for the Blu Ray.
I think the older harry potter films look better on dvd than the bluray
95% percent of my collection is blu ray the rest is dvd and 4k in that order. I actually prefer blu ray! Special ones get 4k treatment, LOTR, Jaws, etc….
I filter my collection all the time....sell the ones I think have so-so video.
very well said. too much FOMO being spread on you tube.
I don't have a 4K screen so 4K Blu-Ray is mostly moot to me. That being said, I am hoping to buy an optical drive version of either the XBox Series X or the Playstation 5 for my 50th birthday later this year so I'll at least be able to watch 4K Blu-Rays downscaled to 720p (lol).
I've already planned my first two 4K Blu-Ray purchases, Wayne's World and Ferris Bueller's Day Off, although, interestingly, neither film I want on 4K because I think they'll look significantly better than the regular Blu-Rays but rather because Paramount restored features for both those films on the 4K releases. (For the Wayne's World 4K, Paramount finally worked out the music licensing with Led Zeppelin so that Wayne is actually playing the first few notes of "Stairway to Heaven" on the guitar in the "No Stairway? Denied!" scene, as heard in theatres in 1992, instead of the generic guitar riff heard in previous home video releases and the Ferris Bueller's Day Off 4K finally brings back the John Hughes commentary track from the 1999 DVD).
Well, if your intent is to watch 4K u. HD blue rays. I highly recommend unless you plan on gaming as well. Steer clear of the Xbox Series X and/or PlayStation 5 as the quality they output for 4K. U, h, d, blu rays, is not that great. You really want a dedicated 4K UHD player such?As like the one I have the panasonic ub420k
@@notuptome I'll be watching them on a 19" LCD RCA (TCL) screen from Walmart so video quality isn't that much of a concern to me. If I had a proper 4K screen, I'd probably also get a standalone 4K player, but that's not in the cards any time soon.
Technology like 4K is always improving and becoming faster better etc
Blu ray is good enough even DVD
Problem is Hollywood movies aren’t as good anymore.
Gaming graphics are amazing but the rest is the same $$ boring recipe-200+ hours.
Anybody with 2020 vision can't say the DVD is better than a Blu ray. Lmao
Of course it is, for one thing in many cases it'll be better more originally graded than Blu-ray.
Blu-Ray is the best balance in this day and age.
Couldn’t agree more 👍🏼
I appreciate these videos man. I’m glad somebody is emphasizing how personal a collection is. A lot of collectors care about other people’s opinions. They like things based on what others tell them to like.
I have a friend who is a snob for UHD 4K, and will tolerate Blu Ray. He has zero love for anything less. I, however, am easily satisfied. If the picture is clear and the sound is good, I am fine. I still have a 1080p TV, and honestly my dvds are just fine for me. I grew up with VHS, so I know what crap really looks like. 😆 I love collecting dvds and Blu Rays because they allow me to build an amazing collection for very little money. I walked out of my local pawn shop the other day with 11 dvds for $9 total. I own only one 4K UHD, Transformers the movie from 1986, only because that film is special to me, and I wanted the steelbook it came in. Collect what you love!
11 DVDs for $9 is an awesome deal
Came here to say the exact same thing, but you beat me to it.
My childhood was in the 80's and early 90's I stomached movies/TV recorded show's that needed tracking adjustments.... I watched stuff that was skewed at the top of the screen. DVD is fine for me, although I do have a few Blu Ray movies.
The reason I have Blu-ray's is I've effectively future proofed my favorite movies/shows it's also that I got them dirt cheap second hand.
I'm from the UK... Second hand DVD's can be found at 10 for a £1 and Blu Ray's can be found at 50p-£2 for 1 second hand.
Side note: Don't get me started on CD's.
Then there is so much your friend has volunteered to miss out on, most of the TV shows before the 2010s are only on DVD, a good bit of movies and documentaries and comedy shows never made it past DVD, even the ones that made it to Blu-ray, a great many never made it to 4K.
I have a 4K snob friend too. He is always getting on my butt about getting a 4K TV, like dude, just cause you're in love with 4K doesn't mean I have to be, lol. I am fine with Blu-Rays and DVDs as well.
I’m the opposite I love Blu-ray and dvd lol
I dont own many 4k blu rays. Im happy with blu ray. I will buy blu ray and even dvd 99% of the time. I dont really like blind buying 4ks because of the price. If I really emjoy the film on blu ray I may double dip on 4k.
The difference isn't enough for me to justify buying a 4k TV, player and discs. I got glasses a couple yrs ago and that made more a difference than picture resolution
Aside from a good player, most people need a bigger TV, at least 65", and need to sit closer. Most people over a certain age were brought up taught that you should sit a certain distance from the tube because supposedly it was bad for the eyes to sit close, but ideally you probably don't want to sit any further than about 6 feet from a 65" to 75" screen to get the most from the increased resolution. And of course some 4K releases are better than others. ;)
When you have 2020 vision it's easier to see the difference
I'm so glad you brought this topic up. It seems these days, everyone is losing their mind to own 4K. I just got back into physical media again, and I
got myself a Sony Blu-ray player, and I have a 75"tv. I'm more than happy with the performance and quality of Blu-ray. Just because a new kid's on the block🤔We are so quick to forget what we have.🇨🇦🇯🇲❤️👊🏽
I feel the same way. Blurays still look amazing.
I love my 42" plasma TV. Movies, especially old movies, which is mostly what I watch look best on plasma. I don't watch TV shows, I'm not into the CGI spectacles, I don't watch sports.
They don't make plasmas anymore. I bought mine in 2007 for $1200. It still works perfectly. I'm not going to throw it in the trash to buy a new TV that will probably have to be replaced every couple years. I'm gonna keep this plasma as long as possible. Blu-ray looks great on it.
I stick to regular Blu-ray. It’s perfect to me.
Blu Ray is perfectly fine for me.
I do buy old classic movies on dvd. Im pretty happy with the quality overall. I dont need them on 4k.
The only expectation for a movie lover and collector that I have is buy what you love (and will rewatch eventually) and buy what you can comfortably afford. Don't worry about how much others have.
I personally think that Blu-ray was a big upgrade from DVD, but going to 4k is quite often not much of a leap beyond that. With that said, there are some 4K discs with HDR that are truly jaw dropping, however there have been quite a few 4k releases of films that I have on Blu-ray that are really underwhelming and not worth the money. I really think it depends on the standard of transfer for each release and I’ve seen some blu rays that look better than some 4K discs. You are dead right that you should just collect what the hell you want to collect. That should be the only gold standard.
Blue ray is a blurry mess. Some people don't see a difference because they are watching upscaled 4k or fake 4k.
@@AngelValdez-mr3fqor 4K without HDR.
@AngelValdez-mr3fq Well, we're sorry we're not uptight arseholes with eagle eye genes who define our experiences by how toxic we can be to other enthusiasts.
@h8GW You don't need an eagle eye ln 65 inch tv. I'm not being toxic but your comment might mislead someone into thinking it's not worth the upgrade when it is night and day in details. Would you buy a TV only capable of 1080p over a 4k tv? No you would not. So why do that with physical media?
@AngelValdez-mr3fq that's what he prefers which is fine
Blu ray is a great format still. Became cheaper thanks to 4k. I love 4k and all. If i see a super cheap blu ray set that costs as much as on 4k. I am grabbing the blu ray collection. Blu ray will still be the backbone to many collections.
You don’t need 4K gaming either. Hence why the frame rates are crappy on current gen consoles.
honestly bro. I wish everything was smoother.
The 30fps even 60fps just hurts my eyes sometimes. Even makes me tired and puts me to sleep. lol
@@victoralvarez9459 30FPS hurts my eyes to, not so much when I was younger but it hurts my eyes now.
@@KillingSpree193 current consoles put out 4K @120fps with HDR, what are you talking about?
@@GamezGuru1 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 nice joke.
Bought a few 4K and they are fine but I prefer blu-ray for the price / quality. Happy with a DVD and even a VHS tape
Yes, me too. DVD will look quite nicely on a good Blu-ray player that upscales it'll be perfectly fine enough for most people including myself. I don't mind that so-called lower quality to me it only adds something. I grew up with dirt and specs on film anyway it's part of it, not this clinically presented spotless stuff. It's crazy, how some people suddenly can't watch a format we all used before with no complaints whatsoever. It is, like Jamie so correctly says, all about enjoying the movie itself and the cozy experience of favourite movies more so than having some latest format that the business vultures want you to buy. People need to think for themselves and their own preferences, listen less to 'experts'.
I still do DVD even if I am hunting for Blu-Ray now. 4K probably has some major differences from 1080p Blu-Rays but it does not mean my Blu-Rays are worthless or even my DVDs either
You make a great point
my dad has a 4k 75 inch tv. Blue rays still look very good. 4ks clearly look better, but the blue rays certainly dont look bad at all. Dvds are pretty rough though 👀
I'm not a 4k collector. I don't find it necessary for me. I've seen 4k disc displayed on high end equipment and I've seen Blu Ray played on a upscaled high end player and same equipment...It was shocking how amazing the Blu Ray was . I for one isn't someone who just dump formats for the new one. I still have Laserdisc and DVD. Blu Ray's are a steal for what the maximum quality you can get from them with equipment that's properly set up. Yes, i know a lot of the time it's the source material too. But mainly Blu Ray properly set up can fool most thinking they are watching 4k disc. The price amount in comparison, plus the awful AI remastering of disc now is another reason not to jump to that format. Online Home theater magazines and other media review sites tell you what they say is better. Specs aren't always what it seems .
4k ok but love DVDs and Blu-rays
It's good to adjust you're perception of these formats. We should be happy with any formats there is available to us. 4k can be amazing, but also a well done bluray transfer can be satisfying. Not all movies needs a 4k treatment, but all of them deserve physical media treatment.
Excellent vid, you said it so well: it literally does not matter what other people feel about your format of choice, they are not going to be at your house watching it with you. So to hell with their opinion!
Everytime I see your collection I feel like mine is way too small🤣
💯. How many times can you sell me Star Wars and LOTR? I've bought all my favorite films on VHS, DVD, and now Blu-ray. I'm done. I've spent thousands over the years. No more. Blu-ray is my final format.
For me, when I decided I was going to start collecting more physical media, 4k was starting to be talked about. I was buying my favorites on Blu Ray but I didnt go all in quite yet. Then once 4k came out, I started buying all the movies I wanted on 4k even though I still had a regular blu ray player since the 4k set also came with a 1080p blu ray. When I finally got a 4k player, I already had a nice collection of 4k discs to watch on it.
Too much revisionism going on with 4K releases. Just look for how many have a new cold teal colour timing now.
In Canada most 4K's I like are $50! You gotta be independently wealthy to collect! Kino, Shout, Vinegar ect are expensive! Conversion & shipping are crazy.
In my own opinion it is not bad for me to buy 4k copies of the 80’s and 90’s movies because we know that video quality that time was not so good. Blu-rays nowadays are stunning so I buy blu-rays instead of 4k’s
I was debating on getting Aliens 4K until a TH-camr put it side-by-side with the previous Blu-ray. Turns out the newest release was just an AI upscale with DNR on the older Blu-ray master, which had already been sourced from a 4k scan.
that isn't a fair representation of the work done on the 4k version. The HDR color grade alone was more effort then you are giving them credit for, and the main reason to consider it over the bluray if you have a quality TV. Resolution isn't everything.
@@Antimonkat That’s fair.
My issue isn’t with HDR color-grading more-so than the elimination of natural grain that contributed to the atmospheric texture of the movie - I’m one of those suckers for that filmic look.
Blu-ray looks better
Blurays makes up most of my collection In most cases Im content with the bluray but I have 100 4ks now and most of them do look slightly better than a regular bluray some are amazing then I have some movies on 4k that arent really necessary like the movie Snatch is a great 4k but the movie itself doesnt have great visuals its totally fine on bluray and others I cant even tell the difference. I have lots of dvds which are totally fine for TV shows and Comedy multipacks.
“ it’s about enjoying the movie” 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 thank you , there are TH-camrs which all they talk about is collecting….collecting it’s never about the movies … just buying boxset after boxset …. It’s the a complete waste of money
Amazing subject and you are so right. People should collect what they love and can afford both monetary and space wise. Nobody should feel like they have to "keep up with the jones"
I don’t have a 4k tv yet so you already know where I stand , now I buy 4k disc now as future reference but I’m not pressed for 4k at all , Blu ray is fine for me, hell some films only have dvd release and im ok with that.
4K is not interesting to me for movies. I was quite enthusiastic about BluRay back in 2007 and got an early PS3 (40GB) in 2008, because I could experience a significant progress in picture quality relative to the DVD, especially on a bigger screen than 32" for example. But 4K does not deliver a similar benefit compared to 1080p. Not even on my 75" screen.
It is similar to the recent PC hardware overkill: Why should I buy an RTX 4090 for a lot of money? I'm fine with 1080p gaming and therefore my GTX 1080ti is fast enough even in 2024. Even Alan Wake 2 is perfectly playable after the latest patch.
I have become more selective when buying movies. When I first got into 4K, I thought I needed to have everything that way. But have learned that much of the newer releases there isn't much difference between BD and 4K. Also, Disney animated BDs look good enough and cannot justify double-dipping to replace them with 4K.
There is a difference, but you just can't see it.
@@slimdude2011 That's why I've become more selective when buying 4Ks. I ask myself "Do I need it?" In the beginning, I felt like I needed to upgrade everything. Last year when I watched some Pixar BDs like Toy Story and Wall-E, they looked phenomenal! Plus watched Lion King (1994) on 4K and compared it and saw only subtle differences. Not enough to go out and replace the rest of my Disney BDs. The only one I might consider is Snow White just due to the history of it being their first animated feature.
People are loyal to UHD as a brand, and the films get sidelined. The Cameron 4K films had some very obvious flaws, and a lot of film collectors told us to just shut up and buy it. In a world where every 4K release was perfect and didn’t drop any features, it’d be easier to promote the format as a whole. But if you’re getting a DNR mess with incorrect color timing, or missing soundtracks, are you that much worse off with a $5 DVD?
My dvd of Dune 1984 was poor quality so this year I replaced it with the Arrow 4k release, great quality. Yet watching 80’s and 90’s TV series on dvd (Millennium and Granada Sherlock Holmes series) on a 65 inch Samsung TV upscaled via pananasonic ub820 4k player; picture quality is excellent. What’s the priority the film or the fancy packaging of the latest new format release. Most collectors at least those on TH-cam seem to have lost focus; film first not packaging. Buy what you like not what you are told to buy. Great video!
Amen, it’s the experience of watching films, not what format it’s on
What else annoys me that the mentality of TH-camrs telling you that Slipcovers are a must. Like, some movies I don't even care to own the Slipcover versions. I usually will pick it up if I can find it but eh, unless its a movie/movie series that I love, then I will get the Slipcovers. Also, I don't have a 4K TV but I pick up 4K versions is if it comes with the Blu-Ray. If it does not, I get the Blu-Ray version instead. DVDs are also fine if I can't find it on Blu-Ray or its stuck on DVD.
I recently had gotten Snow White on 4K from Best Buy for $25, then I found the Disney Movie Club Blu-Ray version at my Walmart for $10. I wasn't too sure to have it but I returned the 4K version to save money and used it on another movie. So it was a win-win for me. That Disney Boxset is sick, but we never got that in the US.
P.S. K-Mart in the US only exists in two states with two stores: New York and Florida. I miss K-Mart, can we trade your K-Mart for our Target, please?
I like blu ray because it's a good ratio price/quality. It's not expensive, like 4k, and the image is still very good. Enven on my 200-inch projector.
Back when DVD came out they, just about everyone of them had extra features including alternate endings and cut scenes. What happened to that, I really miss that side of it.
I’ve upgraded some movies to 4k if the Blu-ray release was botched. A lot of my collection is still DVDs and Blu ray. I even still have some of my VHS movies.
I think dvds look bad but blu rays look really good even compared to 4k especially if you have a good player and high end tv
Blu Ray's are quality 👌 Have 4k as well but I still buy Blu Ray individually.
I get the appeal of 4K, but I am more than happy with my dvd and blu ray collection. Either way, it's just great that people still enjoy buying all forms of physical media.
Preach! These are a lot of the reasons why I haven’t made the jump to 4K UHD. Blu ray is more than enough for me, coming from the world of VHS.
It’s videos like this that make you one of my favorite TH-camrs.
Nah bro, the reason 4k is far superior now is the hdr, I rebought lord of the rings in 4k and the night time images are superior. Look if you cant afford it its fine but sont play this game of amsaying its the same.
@@jasonthomas9319 He didn't say they were "the same", he said BD was good enough for him.
@@19jez89 Thank you @19jez89.
All completely depends on your setups. Bigger TV's definitely benefit a lot more from higher resolution and refresh rate. Trying watching a 480 dvd on a 75"+ and it is pretty unacceptable lol
I think 1080P wil be the "the standard" - it's good, and only fails with a mega large telly!
Because you showed me that Disney box set, I want it now. Look what you did to me. The funny thing is that most of what's in there is on Disney Plus, and I never watch any of it because I don't like watching kid's content anymore. I wanted to watch many of those titles when I was a kid, but not anymore. :(
4k looks nicer and there is usually more content on the disc, but more often than not I buy DVD or the Blu-ray version, as they are cheaper and easier to find.
However I see more use with 4k video recording, as 4k video gives considerably more space to work with when editing.
I Personally Buy And Prefer DVDs
I have been sticking to standard dvd and havent had any issues.
Yes, DVD is definitely still very much a good viewing experience - on the right equipment, that is. Ironically, not on a standard DVD player but an upscaling Blu-ray player.
Some people are just not videophiles. They'll still watch VHS movies on a VCR in pan scan.
@@LarryFleetwood8675 It's ok to have low standards...
@@GamezGuru1 Yes, 4K...
@@LarryFleetwood8675 so 4k is low standard, but DVD is very much a good viewing experience. Ok, no point in talking to this one...
I made it like 5 minutes to already coming to something that's just wrong. I objectively there is benefits to owning the best picture you can get. The difference between 4k and hd/blu ray isnt huge but the jump from dvd to a hd format is huge. Buying a DVD version of anything now that 4k screens are the norm is pointless. You'd get better picture quality from a steaming service than a physical DVD. The only argument for DVD is native 4:3 support and a CRT or projector
You're right im going to stick with Bluray for now... i just have a few 4k Blu-rays because i have a PS5 and it plays 4k Bluray .. bluray are still good... i did buy back to the future trilogy 4k because thats one of my favorite movies of all times
Not all 4k films are the same quality. Some Dvd films actually look better than alot of dodgy bluray and 4k releases... lazy transfers.... Dvd format was a creative experience... not any more
Same thing happened when Blu-ray first came out. I just watched one of those early silver case 1080/Beyond HD releases, and the visuals and sound were awful.
The original snap front case DVD's sold in the very late 90s to early 00s were the best. There was no forced advertising or promotion and it went STRAIGHT to the DVD menu on boot up. They not only extended endless creative freedom to the artists, they ENCOURAGED it! Of course, that didn't last long. IMO, these original DVD's are the ones to collect. 4k is meaningless to me.
Now tell me which DVDs have better quality than bluray buddy
@@mr.40-15
There are lazy DVD upscaled ports to Bluray....but they are rare.
There are DVDs with VHS ports too.
There’s no way you think a dvd will look better than a 4k😭 it’s obviously a setup issue that you have
Standard Blu Rays are good quality, but don't include HDR. However, all physical is good.
HDR is Sucks!!!
I recently upgraded all my DVDs to Blu/4k
Now been doing Blu to 4k
It’s too much and not worth it
I had close to 5,000 movies
Now I own about 800
Been really trying to sell most and only own ones I watch
I started collecting in 2004
So about 20 years now
It’s ridiculous with slips steels 4k
Double dipping
😂
All the 4ks ive got were like 2 dollars more than the standard bluray, soo two copies of one movie for 25 bucks instead of one for 23? Why not, but yeah it all comes down to setup i collect vhs and i wouldnt recommend it to anyone that isnt willing to keep a crt around. 4ks only really beneficial if you've got like a whole movie theater setup. As for what i buy: online ive got burned with dvd discs being loose in the case and getting destroyed, blu survives the mail. I think people put too much attention on bad transfer, usually just go for the cheapest option unless its a movie i absolutely love. Also as for vhs collecting: i have absolutely upgraded to newer editions because anything that was filmed anamorphically looks like shit when pan and scanned, if 47% of the image is gone it does the film a disservice, likewise for horror collecting a lot of those tapes are censored and are missing what made them infamous.
I disagree, I recently upgraded my receiver and blu ray player specifically for Dolby Atmos, DTS X and Auro 3d. I have a 1080p projector and 150" 16x9 screen. I am not upgrading to a 4k projector until it dies. I have a 7.2.4 set up and am very happy. I have bought over $600 in 4k movies. Music and movies like Blade Runner 2049, Grand Turismo, Mission Impossible Fallout etc. are awesome with 4 height speakers. I agree 4k for visuals is not necessary, although I expect better sharpness on a 150" screen.
I've watched almost all Bond movies on DVD on a 65" 4K OLED TV with a Sony 6700 Bluray player that got 4K upscale, and all movies look GREAT at normal viewing distance! It's like "why do you even need Bluray 1080p discs?"
The movies will not be better in Bluray or 4K. Just slightly better picture quality.
The price gap between DVDs and Blurays are in many cases now zero or a few percent but Bluray 4K movies costs often maybe 3X as much as Bluray 1080p. Now lately I've seen a very few 4K titles at a much lower cost but still a bit more than normal Bluray discs.
Bluray 1080p looks GREAT on a 65" 4K TV with that good Bluray player (Sony 6700: not a 4K player but got a 4K upscaler chip which is great for DVD movies). I'm surprised that DVDs will look THAT good on 65" that you don't really need to replace your DVDs with the same movie on Bluray. Bluray 1080p looks great, so I agree with you: the best buy is Bluray 1080p movies when DVDs and Bluray 1080p cost kind of the same and Bluray 4K cost 2X or 3X (very often) or 4X compared to 1080p.
But I have to add that if you got a 98" 8K TV or 80" or something really really big, then you might wanna go for Bluray 4K. TVs up to 65": we really don't need Bluray 4K.
Also have to add this that I catched from a video 2-3 years ago. Most movies with a lot of special effects got that in 1080p. So 4K movies got most of these special effects upscaled from 1080p to 4K. Most effects are rendered in 1080p. But of course, with more powerful computers/chips the movie industry are rendering special effects more and more in 4K. It takes so much time for these clusters to render in 4K. 1080p is much faster. It will always come a time when computers are THAT POWERFUL so they don't wanna render in 1080p because it's fast enough with 4K.
Steve Jobs told about rendering for Pixar's movies. The computing power increased by 1000X or more over a few years but the rendering was not even faster: because the movie creators wanna have more details in the animations. So the rendering will take as much time as many years ago but with more details and higher resolution. Steve Jobs was the CEO for Pixar.
So many of the 4K movies with a lot of special effects got that in 1080p but upscaled to 4K. It's worth to know! But I don't know exactly which movies that got 1080p renderings and 4K renderings or worse than 1080p. Would have been so cool if they could remake Terminator 2 with the computing power of 2024! Terminator 2 was the coolest movie ever when it came out because of the amazing special effects. The golden standard at that time.
Anyways I really appreciate your videos! Great topics and so much common sense! You deserve way more views!
So true, thank goodness for Blu-ray players that upscale DVD to 'HD'...it's a match made in heaven. :-] Seriously, this is how I prefer watching a DVD it looks so much better than on a standard DVD player, I feel like I really don't need to do any so-called 'upgrading' of anything to either Blu-ray or even 4K. Mind you, I have a ton of Blu-rays too yet overall, I don't really care which format I watch a movie on DVD is perfectly fine for me too on my trusted Panasonic Blu-ray players.
I'm learning a lot by watching your videos. Awesome!
All my bluray stuff look fantastic through a sony 4k tele and a 4kplayer with excellent quality hdmi..cable's....i have a few 4k movies...ie..Dunkirk and the revenant...but doesn't upgrade as much as it should imo...but with a new oled tv...it will improve...when i have the money 😂
I get 4K blu-rays if they are cheap and I have gotten 4K ones for like $10 and most of the time they come with regular blu-rays that are non-4K but also have the 4K disc.
So yeah I will usually wait for the 4K to go down in price before getting it.
I still watch my DVDs , I have upgraded true lies from dvd to 4k like you showed.
I’ll still keep my dvd copy too as true lies is a fantastic arnie movie
Lots of logical points made in the video. Not all 4k do I prefer. Some movies I like Blu-ray video quality better. Great vid and thanks 😊
I tried to catch up with Blu-Rays, but failed when I realized how bad it works on PC for no reason. I don't own a TV and never will. Still watching DvDs.
4K is great but also expensive. I can get 1 movie in 4K, or 2 or 3 in regular Bluray
People automatically think a movie on 4K s better which is not always the case
I haven't bought a 4K in a long time as the Blu ray version is good enough for me but if the film is a favourite of mine of which there is a big uptake in video and audio quality then I;ll upgrade example I have ordered a copy of the movie Fargo on 4K from Amazon US via Amazon AU here in Australia
That's funny) This videos shoots in 4K :D
Ok I see the irony…lol
I will buy the 4k UHD if it's available but there are so many movies that aren't so I will buy the Blu-ray. I can still easily go back to 1080p blu ray, it still looks great! We've hit a peak now in quality, you really can't get current or older films to look any better than they do! Going back to DVD for me is a struggle but the difference between 4k and blu ray is negligible unless you're spending the whole movie scanning around the screen.... It seems that only the absolute classics and some boutique labels are getting the 4k treatment anyway. Everything else is only on Blu-ray.
I keep it simple. Only buy the movies I LOVE on 4K. Other than that, I go Blu-ray, or even DVD if I'm being a completest. I never buy random in 4K, and I won't pay for collector's sets, when they mostly only contain paper, like booklets, cards, tiny posters etc. Not paying the premium for that.
I never buy a 4k at full price. For the movies that I will definately re-watch multiple times I do want it in 4k, but I'll wait for a sale before purchasing. A lot of 4k's drop by up to 50% during sales.
I still buy Blu Ray over 4k if Blu Ray is cheaper.
Purely because blu Ray look just as good on my home cinema.
I'll say it depends what equipment you have, I am still sticking to Bluray and DVD I can get them cheap and my Projector is not 4K neither do I see myself paying 2 grand for a 4K projector and 3-400 for a player on top, especially not with physical media dying as we speak. now dont get me wrong I can afford it I just dont want to.
I think of 4k as a very expensive cherry on top, I sometimes want it, but not always. I'm only wanting movies I think will benefit from it as well
In the US, the marginal price difference between 4k format and Blu-ray is small.
in Canada it's huge, often twice the price or more
That’s a big lie
@@nightshademilkshake1Same in the UK.
Its often £25 4K / £15 Blu Ray for new release.
you can usually always find 4Ks for around £15 after a while or look on the second hand market, but its still considerably more expensive than standard Blu Ray.
Blu Ray is far more affordable here, and they still look fantastic.
I'm an American in Germany, where the difference is quite large. But I went over to Amazon to look at US price differences: Dune ($23.98 vs $9.96); Shutter Island ($17.99 vs $9.46); Ghostbusters Afterlife ($23.40 vs $15.00); Fargo ($29.59 vs $10.60).
Those are just what showed up when I searched "4k" under "Movies." There were a handful of exceptions: "Oppenheimer," with a $2 price difference, or "John Wick: Chapter 4." But also exceptions in the other direction -- "Interstellar" and the the Harry Potter Collection were both nearly three times as expensive on 4k.
In Germany, I would say that blu ray titles are comparably priced to US titles or actually cheaper, whereas 4k titles are somewhat more expensive -- that makes the price differences worse. But even in the US, I wouldn't call the difference marginal. It looks like on average, they are 50-90% more expensive.
@@joehavermann7729 For sure that's hardly a marginal difference, it's what pushed me to stop buying 4Ks at the rate I was buying them.
Intresting to see how other countries tally upto the US prices nonetheless.
Hi mate. In the usa a new blue ray cost 20 dollars and a 4k WITH the blue ray included cost 25. The way America prices it, you would think a 4k dvd by itself only cost 5 dollars lol.
Its all about the HDR and Dolby Atmos soundtrack. I didnt hear you mention them even once.
Those are the reasons to buy into 4k. Not the increase in resolution.
Many people, myself included, only have a 1080p TV and a DVD player, maybe a Blu-ray player. Even the cheap Walmart 4K TVs are a luxury that most of us just can't justify.
@@RandallStevenson in which case then it doesnt make sense.
But for those who have them, HDR is the reason. Some movies are absolutely transformed on a good HDR tv
Totally agree
if u want watch good movies go back to 1080p tv with 1080p blu-ray
I agree with the HDR thing but Warner bros, Universal, Paramount and even A24 movies that include a Dolby Atmos sound mix are all available on the standard blu-ray option of all recent releases
Great video with valid points, I’m starting to build a 4K collection and it’s damn expensive.
The people saying this, clearly don’t have good HDR TV’s, they buy the cheapest/largest 4K TV they can find on Black Friday, and think they’re getting a better viewing experience than their 15 year old plasma.
If you have a 4K TV any of your new movie purchases should be 4K. If not, why did you buy the TV? Your existing movie collection is something different. Only your favorites or movies that haven't been watched yet, but have fantastic transfers, should be considered for the 4K purchase. Again, you bought the TV for a reason. Just saying Bluray is cheaper is not the right decision.
4ks at JB are not really expensive.....Dolby Vision, Atmos are worth it. However i agree Blu ray is very very good....thats why i raid my Cash Converters....$5 bargains.
Stop dropping money into Blu-rays. Go to ur local libraries and borrow. U be surprised how big a collection ur local libraries have accrued. If u like a movie just ripped them. Sure u might have to wait awhile for newer releases but so what. Only buy movies that u know u will rewatch more than once.
Bro there’s a lot of 4k devotees out there on Facebook and TH-cam etc and you will be upsetting them ! They are not for turning and can get angry !!
I’m one of the devotees to 4K, but I think as a collective community, we’re scaring away newer collectors who may not have a spare $40AUD laying around per release, maybe they can only afford a $2 dvd from the Salvos, and there’s nothing wrong with that copy, if they want to own the movie, that’s an outlet to start out and own a movie they love in a price range that works and a format that works for them.
I didn't like the movie True Lies, I wouldn't even buy it on dvd never mind 4k. I only buy movies that I enjoy regardless of the hype among collectors.
I don't really like the Films at home channel i think it is over rated. I really been finding myself watching ava pop culture a lot lately.
I buy used Blu-ray’s at Pawn Max for 2.00 each and this includes collections and 4k discs and some are brand new.