Why Are DVDs Still In Production?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I dive into why DVDs as a format still exist in a world of HD and Ultra HD, examining its history and how it could have been aged out.
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Just to clarify, as a lot of the comments are talking about physical media as a whole, I’m mostly asking the question of why do DVDs still exist in an age of higher quality formats like Blu-Ray. I’m not asking why physical media exists as I know why it does and should. And I will continue to support its existence, in any form, even DVD, despite my preference of Blu-Ray as a format. Thanks for all the comments though, it’s still really nice to see how vocal people are about physical media over streaming and other forms of accessing film and television.
I've been asking the same thing for 5 years now. DVD aka 4.5 or 8.5 gigs per disc is very outdated. Blu Ray is superior with 25 or 50 gigs per disc. Also, the cost of producing/manufacvturing a DVD or Blu Ray is actually the same. 4K is the best but Blu Ray is a great medium for most film watchers. DVD to me is a wasteful process when Blu ray can be made in the same time and price.
Blu-ray is great, but some of my Blu-ray discs don't have resume play like their DVD versions.
@@ts214121 The "Resume play" function has to to with the player itself. There is a memory bank/buffer inside a DVD/Blu Ray player and depending on the brand it could be any size from 4 megs to 16 megs. Once that bang gets filled up say maybe 10 films saves it will delete the first save and so on.
@@ts214121 some Blu-ray's have the resume function feature but it often varies because some companies don't care to include the function. Universal has the function and can have that data saved for years between viewings, others just boot up from the start as if you've never touched the disc.
Because they’re cheaper on the retail level. If people are taking a chance on a movie they’ve never seen before, it’s more appealing to pay 5 bucks less for the DVD.
As long as physical media exists, we would be wise to keep buying it (especially the Blu-Ray + DVD combos). I'd rather have my own personal copy than trust a streaming service that can take it away or make politically correct edits without warning.
List of Overlooked Thrillers or Action Films
Deceived with Goldie Hawn (1991)
Jennifer 8 (1992) with Uma Thurman and Andy Garcia
Nightwatch (1997 film) with Ewan McGregor, Patricia Arquette, Josh Brolin and Nick Nolte
The Minus Man (1999) with Owen Wilson
Red Rock West with Nicolas Cage and Dennis Hopper
Nick of Time (1995) with Johnny Depp, Christopher Walken, Charles S. Dutton, and Courtney Chase
Cop Car with Kevin Bacon
The Seven-Ups with Roy Scheider
Stuck is a 2007 film with Mena Suvari
Don't Tell a Soul is a 2020 with Rainn Wilson
Love and a .45 with Gil Bellows, Renée Zellweger, Rory Cochrane, Jeffrey Combs, and Jack Nance
Den of Thieves with Gerard Butler, Pablo Schrieber, Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson, and O'Shea Jackson Jr.
Cop Land with Sylvester Stallone
Trance with Rosario Dawson
Stander with Thomas Jane
Widows (2018) with Viola Davis, Michelle Rodriguez, Elizabeth Debicki, and Cynthia Erivo
Killing Zoe with (Eric Stoltz)
The Lookout with Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Harry Brown with Michael Caine
Killer Joe (2011) with Matthew McConaughey in the title role, Emile Hirsch, Juno Temple, Gina Gershon and Thomas Haden Church.
Mindhunters (2004) with Kathryn Morris, LL Cool J, Jonny Lee Miller, Patricia Velásquez, Clifton Collins Jr., Christian Slater and Val Kilmer
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Stray Bullets with Asa Spurlock
State of Grace with Sean Penn and Gary Oldman
Red Hill (2010) with Ryan Kwanten, Steve Bisley and Tom E. Lewis.
The Standoff at Sparrow Creek with James Badge Dale
The Iceman (2012) with Michael Shannon, Chris Evans, and Winona Ryder
Narc (2002) with Jason Patric and Ray Liotta
Copycat (1995 film) with Sigourney Weaver
Layer Cake with Daniel Craig
The Place Beyond the Pines with Ryan Gosling, Eva Mendes, Bradley Cooper, and Dane DeHaan
Johhny Handsome with Mickey Rourke
Let the Corpses Tan
Brooklyn’s Finest with Ethan Hawke, Don Cheadle, and Richard Gere
Cold in July with Michael C. Hall, Sam Shepard, and Don Johnson
Dolores Claiborne (1992) with Kathy Bates
Apt Pupil (1998) with Ian McKellen, Brad Renfro, Bruce Davison, Elias Koteas and David Schwimmer
Heart of Midnight with Jennifer Jason Leigh
Fear (1990 film) with Ally Sheedy, Pruitt Taylor Vince, Michael O'Keefe, Lauren Hutton, Keone Young, Stan Shaw, Dean Goodman, Don Hood and Jonathan Prince.
Buried Alive (1990 TV film) with Tim Matheson and Jennifer Jason Leigh
Desperate Measures (1998) with Michael Keaton, Andy García, Marcia Gay Harden and Brian Cox.
Savage Salvation (2022)
Ring of Steel (1994)
Miracle Mile (1989)
Rondo (2018)
What is so good about pairing the dvd with the Blu-ray?
@@geggy310 It used to be great because you could use the DVD in your minivan's entertainment system with the LCD screens in the headrests, and not have to worry about your kids scratching up your BluRay copy. And it was good if you had a friend who only cared about DVDs, you could split the cost of buying the BR+DVD set. The discs are SO cheap to make that it's a easy way for the studios to make people think they are getting a better deal if they give you two copies.
On top of streaming services removing content, and altering the movie, They are also unreliable. I have pretty fast internet and I still have to deal with that annoying buffering. If I want to skip to a certain part of fast forward, that buffering symbol comes. It just sours the experience. Also streaming services rely on the internet. If your internet goes out, all that content becomes inaccessible. With a physical copy, you have access to that movie forever. Regardless of whether you have internet access, and regardless of whether that streaming service has that movie. and even those streaming services won't last forever.
@@geggy310 It increases sales, since you are accomodating both markets.
if a person only has a dvd player and decides to upgrade to blu ray they get a blu ray copy of that movie. (Even in 2024 a lot of people haven't made the jump to blu ray Only reason I am able to play blu ray movies is because I have an Xbox)
There's a lot of older TV shows that will never be on bluray. For that reason, I'm glad DVDs still exist.
I’m still glad DVDs exist, and there is still a large body of films and shows that you can only find on DVD. It’ll be nice to see them all on a better disc format in the future though but yes, for now we still have DVDs.
I wouldnt mind if there would be stil at least dvd releases from all the newer tv series also. At the moment so few get fysical releases at all ,what is were bad thing.
That’s true, DVD’s for streaming exclusive shows in particular would be better than nothing
Same goes for VHS where many didn't get onto DVD too! I have many of those still on VHS and am about to capture those with modern capture techniques and technology where I can make it 60FPS vs the old VHS 30FPS and upscaled to at least HD. My tapes are in very good condition and my SVHS VCR is DVD quality with Dolby Surround and all that stuff...lol It looks and sounds so good still. I can't wait to capture these tapes!
Dvds need to still exist if you're going to use it for burning video games on it or your own videos on it.
DVDs were a huge step up in audio/visual quality from VHS, they weren't as heavy, they took up far less space, they weren't as perishable, and you could navigate around in them and turn on features like subtitles and commentaries. DVDs were a monumental step up from VHS. Blu-Rays are better than DVD, but they also charge more for them compared to DVD. There's a lot of crap that isn't worth extra cash and the quality difference doesn't matter, (who needs The Nutty Professor in 4K, let alone Jack and Jill?) and our blu-ray player plays the DVDs. That's the main reason they aren't being phased out like VHS was.
DVD still popular because :
1- quality is good enough
2- dvd drives are everywhere, computers, cars and playstation
3- dvd is cheap, you can get new dvd for 5$ at some stores and on amazon
4- many titles are only available on dvd
Blu rays are far superior. Though I'll buy DVDs if it's only on DVD or if the blu ray is expensive.
Dvd is still awsome to collect we should keep it going in 2024 and foward. Honstly
Why exactly, though.
DVD passes the good enough test for a lot of people. I personally have now moved over mainly to Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray for premium stuff, but if the price difference is more than $20 between Blu-ray and 4K, I still choose Blu-ray
Yeah I’m more of a Blu-Ray /4K person now but it can depend on the price and the reviews of the 4K that help me determine which to get. I rarely get a DVD but I still do on the odd occasion
VHS was killed off quickly because tape was so expensive. At the peak you could get movies for $20 and some tapes would be $10. This requires at least 50% market share. Pre-recorded VHS ended in 2006. In 2005 DVD out sold VHS for the first time. To continue VHS they would have to price them at a higher price than DVD.
DVD vs Blu Ray manufacturing is virtually the same.
Also you have to remember people with a low income will on occasion buy a DVD for $5 or more often rent a movie from Red Box for $2.
I have no idea how old you are so this either will or won't be mind blowing to you. ;-) When VHS VCRs first came out one BLANK tape cost $25!!! When Hollywood finally started releasing movies onto VHS, only movies that had been blockbusters in the theaters were released on VHS, because they charged $80 per copy!!! And the reason why DVDs cost less than VHS and killed it is because CDs/DVDs/BRs/UHDs are pressed like vinyl records on high speed production lines, while cassette tapes and VHS tapes had to be recorded in REAL TIME in huge warehouses full of cassette tape decks or VCRs making copies that had to be manually changed 24/7.
VHS stuck around for nearly a decade after DVD hit the market. Its demise didn’t really speed up until around 2001-2002, when the price of DVD players dropped to at or just below $200, which made them competitive with VCRs.
It's very simple. As someone who still purchases DVD's in 2024, I can explain why I do so pretty easily: It's cheap. That's it. Where the Blu Ray is priced the same or only a few pennies more, I obviously go for the Blu Ray because I own an Xbox One that I can watch them on, but as soon as the price difference is several bucks more for the Blu Ray, or god forbid, tens of dollars more, I just buy the DVD. I don't care about visual quality much, I just want to own the things I buy and not rely on the billion streaming services that keep popping up. Yes, 1080p is nicer than 480p but not so much that I'd pay significantly extra for it. And don't even mention 4k. If I bought a 4k TV, 4K Player and 4K Cable, I'd be bankrupt. That's simply out of the question for me. So that's about it. I buy DVD's because I want to own the things I purchase and re-watch them at will, and because they are a cheap way for me to do so.
4k tvs are cheap. It's hard to even get a 1080p TV these days. Walmart has a 20 dollar 4k player. Albeit you will need to make the investment to rip your collection which is minimal.
Vhs died for our family in 2002 but I started collecting more on dvd since then and had a major vhs collection as a kid and now on blu ray and in 4K
Interesting, I was born in 2002 and remember watching many vhs stuff as a kid, then dvds later on but I always remember the vhs more cause I thought it was more fun to put on haha
I for one am so glad DVD still exists. I Still buy my films and TV Shows on DVD. I did start buying blu rays from 2014 to 2019. Then I started buying DVDs again and now I stick exclusively with that format. Quite frankly it looks good enough to me running on my Blu Ray player upscaled to HD. A lot of it is down to nostalgia but I will always be a DVD guy. They are also so cheap and easy to find. Especially at charity shops and second hand shops.
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PAL DVDs are the wrong speed. Listen to an actor or song that you are familiar with on a local disc then on an imported disc
@@keancv eh. I have an NTSC option to change the speed. Even if I didn't it wouldn't ruin my experience or shift me from DVDs.
Cheaper to make and there isn’t a discernible difference in picture quality when you’re sitting on a couch 10 feet away
I think something most don't realize is SONY owns the patent for Blu-rays. Every Blu-ray produced gives SONY royalty money. DVDs on the other hand are a standard media format. I personally collect both DVDs and Blu-rays so I can have a standard format and a blu-ray for a higher def quality copy. I think DVD quality is totally acceptable for almost all movies. HD/4K DVDs are fine too, just I personally feel like its redundant for how I'm collecting. Also I don't trust SONY to do something weird with Blu-rays in the future, so I'll always have DVDs as back-up.
My DVD player doesn't play Blu-ray
Best reason in this entire comment section
Because a lot of titles are still only available on DVD for example the longer cuts of the Lethal Weapon film series.
I’m not saying DVDs shouldn’t exist full stop, I’m just curious as to why they didn’t die out as a format one Blu-Ray came along. There are obviously multiple factors as to their persistence and in the end it is better to have them than to not. I’m happier with a DVD over no physical release at all
I agree with you man no worries.
In the waning days of Summer, 2023, Spectrum and Disney went to war over ESPN licensing fees. For 12 days, ALL Disney-owned channels were gone from the Spectrum cable TV lineup. Spectrum struck a deal for Disney Plus, in exchange for EIGHT Disney-owned channels "nobody ever watches." Just like that, FXX, FX Movies and Disney XD were gone forever. I watched these channels for "Bob's Burgers," "Futurama," and "Gravity Falls." A visit to Amazon later, I have the "Gravity Falls" Collector's Edition, so I can see "Gravity Falls" when I WANT TO. Having TV and movies taken away by a cable TV company is not unlike a "video streaming service" cancelling/censoring/eradicating TV or movies for ANY reason whatsoever. So I still buy DVDs because I can't trust the local cable TV company any more than "cord cutting streamers" can trust their "video streaming service." Is that Clear enough? "Disney Plus"? Hasn't shown up, and I dislike their Dumpster Fire-content.
Most people refuse to even buy physical media now. If they buy it's often whatever is cheaper they drew a line in the sand with cost. Inflation hasn't helped anything. It's why DVD is still here. Anything better is left to the hobbyist.
I think we need to look at this from the point of view of poor-man's media. Walmart stores have $3.50 and $5 bins in their stores. That gives consumers the opportunity to buy upwards of 4 or 5 movies at once and have something to watch on their day off. Blu-ray and 4K gives movie aficionados the opportunity to see their movies in the highest quality possible. This, also, brings into consideration any local "Mom and Pop" shops and used media stores that will buy up someone's movie collection to re-sell them for, maybe, 2 or 3 dollars more than what they offered. And budget TVs ranging from 32" up to 50" are now on the market, making it easier for someone to be able to enjoy their own private collection.
I still buy them. I prefer their picture and sound quality over streaming videos and they are physically mine. I like seeing my collection of DVDs just like I like having a book collection over ebook nonsense.
I agree, still not really the point of the video but it’s nice to see that lots of people prefer physical over streaming.
Get blu rays dvds look like garbage it’s 2023 let them go
@@jydbbo I do have blue ray discs. My point was I like actually physical media over streaming media.
@@jydbbo Blu-rays and 4Ks aren't going to skyrocket from just shaming people into tossing out their DVDs
I think most people just find DVDs easier to use than Blu Ray's and HD discs. I'm very nostalgic for them. I can remember when they became a big thing, and I don't think that we should stop making them just because they're outdated
when the person before u didnt rewind the tape and u gotta watch the movie in reverse spoilers to actually watch it properly
My situation is probably pretty niche, but I lile watching DVDs on my CRT tv on my PS2. I have a whole retro set up and enjoy watching old horror movies in the same way that I wwtched them on as a kid. Some action movies as well. On my 4K tv I do enjoy 4K mostly though.
Horror films on a crt would be so nice. There’s so an effect from watching lower quality versions of horror that you don’t get from a 4K of the same film. I do appreciate the artistry that is preset when you watch a 4K of the same film but the horror is usually heightened by lower quality
I never moved on to blu-ray or a full HD tv or beyond that, to me that high resolution tv just looks bad. Everything looks fake and staged to me, I'm not sure exactly why but it just does. I still buy DVDs, you can usually get them for dirt cheap too and no need to rely on your internet connection or a streaming service which might drop or edit your favourite movie for whatever reason, nowadays usually ideological.
If you prefer DVD then more power to you, better than streaming and yeah at least you own it in some form or another
@@CollectorCreations Thanks for the reply! I know I'm in the minority with my distaste for high resolution TV and to each their own, nothing wrong with that.
It's the industry's fault it still exists. They should've stopped releasing new titles on DVD. I bet most people buying DVD, do so because they're not familar with Blu-ray so they keep buying the format they've known for many years. To me it's insane people are buying the latest huge 4K TV's, yet still keep buying DVD's to watch on them. Where I live, price difference is only small: around €15 for a DVD vs €18 for the Blu-ray (just an average new realease). Players are also dirt cheap nowadays. If the industry wanted to replace DVD with Blu-ray (which was the original plan), they've messed it up themselves by continuing to release new titles on DVD.
Blade Runner IMAX is on Jan 13, tickets on sale on Thursday (10am for members 11am everybody else).
Yeah I saw they’re doing a bunch of classic IMAX releases in Jan which is exciting
Saw they have another screening that starts in the afternoon (don't remember if Blade Runner 2049 ending at like 11PM was the issue you had.@@CollectorCreations
My collection has DVDs, because they are must-have for me, and not on Blu-ray or 4K
You answered your own question pretty early on in the video, because they are cheap.
For a lot of people, DVD quality is good enough. and the bump in visual quality you get with blu ray and 4k blu ray doesn't really justify paying the higher price. I have a pretty large movie collection. it's 100% DVD. Because it's just cheaper and I don't care if there are better formats out there. DVD quality is fine. I can collect more movies, for a cheaper price. I recently ordered Prey (a great movie) They had the blu ray available but I still ordered the DVD because it was a good 7 dollars cheaper. I'm not well off, and don't feel comfortable spending the extra money on a blu ray when a cheaper option exists that I'm satisfied with. You make the argument that if DVDs were phased out blu rays would become cheaper. That probably wouldn't happen. The cost of blu ray discs would stay the same because companies are greedy. DVDS are dirt cheap now because I can just go to an pawn shop or the bargain bin at walmart and get a movie for 5 bucks. Now is a great time to collect DVD movies.
I also collect a lot of obscure independent films that never got a blu ray release. You can only get them on DVD.
I agree! I collect movies on Blu-ray, VHS and mostly on dvd. I suspect that only 10% of all households over here in the Netherlands own a physical media player (9% dvd-1% Blu-ray) so basically we're really talking about niche here. I grew up on Pan & Scan movies on television and VHS, so dvd was a godsend back then (watching movies restored and in the correct aspect ratio!), but Blu-ray.... it's pricy and not a big step up. Good players already upscale your dvd's... and dvd and VHS have a much bigger library.
I know people who claim to not notice a difference when viewing a higher resolution picture, so yes, I totally agree! My wife bought Dune on DVD (even though we have a blu-ray player), and it's compressed to fit on the disc and looks like absolute garbage. I was cringing the whole time, but she claims not to notice! hahaha. Thus I totally get that a lot of people have no interest in higher resolution images. It's the same with music, isn't it?
@@devononair I never said I don't notice a difference. I said the bump in quality is not enough to justify paying more. I just want to watch the movie. I don't care if its only 480p or whatever. I've been watching movies in that resolution my entire life. It's fine. and I can buy more movies at a cheaper price and have a bigger collection. I'll take the lower quality visuals if I can have more movies in my collection. I'm a big Indy nut. So a lot of my collection are movies that only got a dvd release.
Some movies that were never available in streaming are Brubaker 1980, The Entity 1982, Pink Floyd The Wall 1982, After Hours 1985, Cocoon 1985 and The Abyss 1989.
After Hours was/is (I'm not sure) available on HBO Max this year, that's where I watched it.
Given, it's wonderful that it got a Criterion release, and everyone should support Physical media.
I'm glad we still have DVD, I have no problem with it, much cheaper and way better picture than VHS was, plus.. there's so many films that only made it to DVD that aren't on any other format
Because DVDs are awesome!
At 16.20,what you know about streaming this year you could put it on the back of a stamp, look at Disney, HBO max, Peacock, Showcase etc. Some have already gone.
A. I would wager that there are still people that have no idea that dvds can be played on blu-ray players.
B. Chicken or the egg effect. I walk into a Walmart or Target and it's almost nothing but dvds. I walk out without buying because I know there's a blu-ray version. So, do stores sell mostly dvds because that's genuinely what most people prefer? Or are most people only getting dvds because they're not given the choice and perhaps don't know there's a blu-ray release?
I have got 25 year old DVD's that still work whereas, I have blu rays 15 years old that now refuse to work in any player. One was even still sealed as I had not opened it until 2 weeks ago.
Lots of stuff is only available on DVD if you collect tv series. I have lots of greatDVD box sets of tv shows with lots of exclusive extras. There are also cases where a series has been reissued on blu ray but less care has been taken over the transfer. Better format does not necessarily equal a better product.
That’s probably the most valid point. Despite Blu-Ray being a superior format, its ability to still not be the best representations of film and shows is bizarre. I often will look into older DVDs sets of shows just for better transfers and a larger range of special features. Sure, the point of my video is to ask why Blu-Ray as a format didn’t take over DVDs completely and rid the market of an inferior product (at least inferior in the general technical quality of video and audio), but copyright issues and a market preference for DVD has kept it alive and well.
I know for myself: throughout college, I watched movies mostly on my laptop with the onboard CD/DVD player. So when BD started becoming mainstream ca. 2010, in grad school I got a brand-new laptop with a BD hardware drive, and was excited to try the new hot thing... except I found out the hard way it didnt come with the *software* to play a BD. That was still proprietary. Yet DVDs played fine. I was so incensed at the new attempt at locking down the disc ecosystem that I basically swore off BD for maybe ten years+, and only now that I am older with more disposable income and a proper TV have I jumped into BD, buying players for cheap at yardsales. And many I know never saw the point, especially with streaming coming just a couple years later and promising everything ... Since part of the point of buying into a tech ecosystem is interoperability: if I couldnt take the new discs places to friends, etc, what was the point in not just sticking with what was the baseline that worked: DVD?
The DVD format isn't owned by one company like Sony owns Blu ray, and a TV series will get a DVD release without a Blu ray release, and there is stuff that's stuck on VHS that if we are lucky might get a DVD, that's not worth watching in Blu ray HD let alone a 4k.
I like having both available I have DVD and Blu Ray collection I don't have any 4k
I buy any movie released before 2000 in DVD. Why? It’s psychological, I don’t like to watch older movies in ultra crisp picture quality. I like them to have some “fuzziness”. Also I already had amassed a DVD collection before blu-ray came out and I was not willing to buy everything again in blu-ray.
Same here.
But with blu-ray they have a lot more bonus features
Because dvds/physical media is awesome
No one’s saying it isn’t
My opinon is the form factor. It allows for backward compatibility and keeping collections around longer.
*Me staring at my DVD Collection*
Also Me:"Time buy some more DVDs!"
Me: *has 600+ DVDs and Blu-Rays waiting on the shelf to watch*
Also Me: A few more couldn’t hurt
@Collector's Creations That is awesome! Having a huge Library mine is a bit small but I intend to make it bigger.
I personally have a DVD count in the thousands, and I have been making my own since 2005.
The fact I know so many who buy DVDs for their PS4s or so.
Yeah that I can’t wrap my head around but I guess when you’re spending so much on a game it’s probably just easier to go cheaper for movies and shows
recently ive found unopened blu-rays at pawn shops and goodwill. Also only recently got a 4K blu-ray player but i was buying the regular and 4k blu-ray combos when i could but they seemed to have stopped that as an option sometimes. like i bought the Original Top Gun in the 4k and regular but the second top gun i had to choose so i chose the regular blu-ray not having the 4k player at the time.
People seem to be offloading Blu-rays like crazy.
I picked up the complete box set of LOST on Blu-ray (unopened) for £5 (about $6 USD) in a UK charity shop recently.
Other similar bargains on THE EXPANSE 1-3 , WALKING DEAD 1-4 and many more.
I think some people are gonna regret selling their collections so cheaply - when the problems with streaming become more widespread.
I only have 25 Blu-ray discs. Hundreds of DVDs!
It's often the cheapest way to watch a movie.
For a smaller TV, a DVD looks really good with an upscaling player.
2D animation holds up amazingly well on DVD.
Yeah people buy dvds cause they’re cheaper, well sort of. If you buy one from JB its like $5 cheaper then a Blu Ray. But if you go to an op shop you could be spending 5c-$2 per title which is smarter. I’ve played dvds on my 86 inch 4K TV and they look perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with buying them but that question as to why they’re still here is a mystery. Even today they outsell blu rays
I can answer the question. It's because the Layman doesn't really see a difference between the formats. When DVDs came out, they were a very different format and DVDs were clearly better, they had less points of failure, you could put longer cuts on them, and you didn't have to rewind them. However DVDs and Blu-Rays are both disks and most people didn't see the point of switching (and still don't). There are those who have never upgraded their player and never will because DVDs are just fine (my parents just upgraded because I gave them my old player when I bought a 4k player).
Ye Blu-Rays have better quality because the disk hold more data, but to most people that haven't upgraded DVDs were good enough for them. So DVDs probably will remain the dominant format for a while, simply because people think they are good enough and won't spend the extra money on Blu-Rays.
Whether or not I *prefer* Blu-ray or 4K, the studios have mostly decided they aren't going to release HD of archival titles that haven't already been released in HD for the most part. That means DVD will continue to be a viable platform because Blu-ray players are backwards compatible.
The only VHS cassettes I ever bought were Disney movies for the kids. VHS looked like crap and as much as I love movies, I wasn't willing to sacrifice on quality.
I did buy a few Laser discs, but they were so expensive, and then cheaper DVDs came out.
These days, I generally buy comedies on DVD and big-budget-movies on Blu-ray.
Why not just stream everything? I do stream, but when my kids come over, they might be interested in something a little off-beat. I love being the person to introduce someone to a great movie that they've never heard of.
Sure, bluray is superior, but for some reason I still prefer dvd. For some reason bluray releses just feel sow cold and soules... some plain menus and silly blue cases. DVDs feel just better some how... like the cases, menus, and of course there are way more s u b t i t l e d 🇫🇮 releases. I know enoug english to watch imports but many in our family dont. Thats one more reason to select dvd... there is bluray release with subs🇫🇮 from Grumpy Old Men but not from Grumpier Old Men 👎
Remember case from three years back when a band called Nightwist put add their newest concert bluray release. Sure it got lots of preorders, but also LOTS of negative feedback... WHERE IS THE DVD OPTION ?!! 😅 few days later they announced that there will be also a dvd release availeble. And it sold well also 🎉
That’s definitely a different avenue that I don’t consider much when making my videos, which is subtitles and how many DVD releases have a broader range in language releases. They do also have a different presence than a Blu-Ray, especially in the form of having lively menus. Some Blu-Ray’s still have good menus but yeah, they’re usually quite soulless and barebones
More movies are available on DVD. If you are looking for obscure films,its the way to go.
As I heard it the PS2 killed the VHS tape because Sony smuggled a DVD player into SO MANY homes in the PS2 and most people, as I did, bought a DVD to see what it was like despite the expense and had a monkeys gather at the monolith moment seeing the clarity of image on their early 00s CRT display. And so DVD won and that clear SD became the minimum benchmark as flatscreen televisions became the norm.
As for the "I want a physical copy of this movie/TV Show what format should I pick?" question the shit show is down to the fact that film makers/TV producers are targeting audiences watching in different ways. Someone making a three-camera sitcom is still targeting a viewer using an SD display because it's lowest-common denominator fare, makers of prestige television are generally targeting 1080p as a standard although they take into account that some viewers maybe watching a DVD or other SD display. Makers of any movie believe that the majority of viewers will be 1080p, the makers of certain movies believe that 4k is essential (Blade Runner 2049 for example is amazing in 4K).
Because of the audience the producers are targeting you get different benefits from different scales. I find, for example, that a lot of 80s movies look super great at 1080p because I think that 1080p is a sort of natural equivalent to an old projector set up. My John Carpenter movies look absolutely banging at 1080p but I think above that, until 4K can be something you're consciously targeting, there's a law of diminishing returns. But will "Groundhog Day" get more than a visual tweak going from SD to HD or to 4K? I would say it's highly doubtful, some films are just not really bothered above SD, this actually covers a lot of movies, they look absolutely fine at SD and don't get much out of the step up to HD and so you can forget 4K. So in my own selections it's a combo of price, do I own it already and do I believe it will be better in HD. I truly believe 4K is a novelty, it works sometimes but sometimes HD is just enough, most times actually.
Just from personal experience, I think Groundhog Day looks great on 4K compared to my old DVD but I understand what you mean. Some films don’t need the extra kick in visual/audio quality and sometimes all you need is a dvd.
@@CollectorCreations you know I can totally believe that it looks killer at a higher resolution (I don't think I'll ever be convinced 4K is necessary most of the time) but it *is* killer even at 576p so it just discourages me from pursuing an upgrade. Also, if I was going to go Blu-Ray sometimes Blu-Ray transfers are lazy so it's not really worth it. I know the Nightmare on Elm Street blu-ray collection I've got veers from amazing (1,2,3) to meh (4,5,6, I've not watched New Nightmare yet). Re-masters are conceivably compulsory for 4K but "making sure distributors aren't lazy" isn't a good reason to pay 4K prices...
The PS2 didn’t become available for most people until almost a year after it came out. They were the “impossible to find” toy for Christmas of 2000. By the time they were readily available in stores in the second half of 2021, DVD players had already dropped to a price that was comparable to VCRs (and cheaper than a PS2), which is what sped up the takeovers. I know there’s that scene in Tropic Thunder that claims gamers and pornography drive what home video format is going to dominate, but that’s a myth.
Clearly, Blu Rays are preferrable. But when they're properly processed from high quality source material, DVDs can come surprisingly close to the quality of Blus. Someone mentioned TV season sets, most of which are never made as Blu Rays. I expect that the number of households out there with only DVD players substantially outnumbers households with Blu Ray machines. (I have one friend or relation I know of who has a Blu Ray player. That's it.) I also expect the number of titles on DVD (both in and out of print) vastly outnumbers Blu Ray titles. It's fine that we appreciate our BMWs and Lexuses, but most of us are driving Hondas and Fords.
No they can’t if you have a high quality tv or projector you can tell that dvd is no where near to a quality Blu ray disk some blu rays in my collection look better then a lot of 4k disk coming out now in days
@@jydbbo "if you have a high quality tv or projector" is the operative term here. I suspect most people who rely primarily on DVDs do not. They may be on cheap 4k TVs, and many still on 1080 and 720. I still have a 1080 (since I have no intention of moving beyond Blu Ray) and a well produced DVD looks quite nice on it.
When made from a fresh scan of a 35mm+ camera negative/interpositive of a widescreen color film, I have found BD is often very visually improved (and for 70mm, incredible!), especially compared to a non-anamorphic widescreen DVD. BUT for things that were recorded native on videotape (i.e. many TV shows from the 1980s-90s), or even with many B&W 35mm Academy-ratio films from the 1930s-50s, I have trouble telling the difference...
Another aspect to it: With DVD licensing you pay by volume sold, while BD you pay by volume produced. So, let's say you produce 1 m copies of a DVD and sell sell half, you scrap ½ m DVDs and lose a little money on scapped disks and only pay licensing fees on ½ m disks. With BD you produce 1 m, sell ½ m, you lose money on scrapped disks and pay licensing fees ont he full production run. That may be an incentive to keep DVDs around, produce too few BSs and too many DVDs, when BDs sell out, many will chose to buy on DVD to get it on physical media, no scrapped BDs, fewer scrapped DVDs, that equals greater profit.
I think the reason why DVD's are more popular than Blu Ray and 4K is because people who don't care about keeping up with the latest technology have stuck with DVD's, whereas everyone else jumped to Blu Ray, then abandoned that and jumped to streaming, and they didn't bother with jumping from streaming to 4K when 4K came along because they see physical media as being outdated, so they've stuck with streaming.
Besides, a new DVD player is cheap starting at 20/30 USD. A Blu-ray player is way more expensive and one doesn´t find a cheap generic one.
I’m a collector from India im collecting DVDs BLU and 4ks..
Streaming has taken a big bite out of the whole physical media business. It severely slowed the proliferation of blu-ray.
I like movies from the 70's and 80's. Sometimes they are hard to stream. Often I prefer to own a physical copy, even if I have previous streamed a favorite. I will aim for blu-ray most of the time. I will certainly pay extra a 4KUHD if the price is right or the features are an upgrade to the blu-ray. Lastly, I will settle for a DVD if no blu-ray option exists. I still have a handful of VHS that have no disc versions available at all.
True. I jumped from my DVD collection straight to streaming movies. I never even bothered with Blu-Ray. I've never owned one.
Blu Ray is often altered from the original release in inexplicable ways seemingly to get us to buy the same movie over and over again.
DVD sticks around because cost of manufacturing vs vhs and lack of licensing costs. whereas blu-rays require licensing costs to go to sony.
But that is a good question, like when Blu Ray came out in the 00s they could have stopped dvds and phased them out like they did with vhs in 2005
Yeah it’s strange how they didn’t but I feel like it’s a US market thing and the GFC around the time Blu-Ray came to the market.
The difference is blue ray players are backwards compatible and also play DVDs. People dont have to switch like they did with VHS
I can't watch Blu-ray on my crt television. VHS and DVD work fine in it though. My computer has a DVD drive.
well I grew up as a kid in the late 80s and 90s. and people forget how VHS used to be cropped. so you actually had to find the WIDESCREEN copy of it it was known as the best version. just like UHD would be the one we look for today. in about 2001 when the PS2 came out that is when DVDS took off. and noting that 'widescreen' and then 'special features' were HUGE at the time that is what DVDs had over VHS was special features. I think a lot of TVs today you still can only get on DVD things like six feet under, halt and catch fire, etc so they have to frustratingly still be out as a option. when stores like BIG W throw out the mainstream movies on DVD that are $15 cheaper for the single mums out there or parents who don't understand the difference or care. TRUE LIES is my big DVD that I keep around though that may change next year! See they could sell special feature. As a dvd but an average person saying 1080p is better then 480p doesn’t sell as good
It was a lot more about the space you could stack 4 dvd for 1 vhs tape in shops
My dvds and cds aren't going anywhere
I buy the DVD to display next to my figures and statues. I buy the Blu-ray or 4K to watch. The DVD is a bigger size cover and doesn’t have the giant ‘Blu-ray’ or ‘4K’ logo at the top. It acts as a mini poster to accompany my 1/10, 1/6, or 1/4 figures and my larger scale statues. The DVD accents my piece. I never liked the raised logos at the top of the covers now. Aesthetically, I prefer DVDs.
my ps2 played dvds but not vhs tapes my ps5 still plays dvds simple, i dont need every movie in bluray especially older ones
i buy all my media second hand. so being able to get 100 dvds for £3 is a pretty great deal that probably wouldn't happen with a blu ray bundle.
also, not all movies are necessary to get at a higher quality. sometimes it can be nice to see it in a familiar quality to my childhood.
That’s fair, and yes that’s an insane deal for 100 films. If you prefer DVD then that’s your cup of tea. I’m just happy that people are still supporting physical media
Bull it does not make sense regarding dvd, blu ray repro is 1080p, sorry but I don't get it, I only buy Dvd's if they are absolutely not available everywhere
Why not just flash a thumb drive for the info, then dump it into a comp? It's stuck into said SSD.
Vhs and Beta were great. DVD was great. Blu-ray was great. Things simply evolve into collector's items.
DVD disks are stamped like records… when professionally manufactured
If you have a movie on vhs and watch it multiple times it will wear out and have to buy the dvd version. DVDs are a lot easier to have and stack up. I have some that are blue rays and combos packs but the majority I have are regular dvds. When the internet is down for streaming you have dvds to watch.
Dvd replaced VHS as they are durable and interactive - digital instead of analogue. Blu rays came out same time as streaming so didn't follow on. Dvd today is/can be a cheap way to get a physical copy
Dvd's perfectly good for smaller bedroom tv's etc
I only get DVDs if it's the only format I can get a movie or show on. Everything else goes straight to 4K and/or Blu-Ray. Again depends on what is available on which. I find DVD to be fine for shows that aren't mastered in HD. But it's a different series if a show is remastered or actually mastered in HD to begin with. The original Teen Titans series for example. The Blu-Ray has the show in true 16:9 and in crisp HD when compared to the 4:3 and standard 480 it was showed in back when the show was new. Can even make the show comparable to shows that are produced when HD and 16:9 became the standard. Actually a majority of the DC animated series line-up have Blu-Rays. Not all of them are equal as Teen Titans since some series like Batman: The Animated Series (RIP Kevin Conroy) are still 4:3, but they still get resolution bump-ups and clean-ups to make them presentable on an HD or even 4K screen.
I'm just happy that a lots of movies and shows are getting the Blu-Ray or even 4K treatments. Some I'm surprised didn't get Blus when the format was brand new, but better late than never. I even take SD on Blu-Ray. Advantage with SD on Blu-Ray is that they can put a series on just 1 - 4 discs with minimal compression when compared to DVD. May not be as big of an improvement than using an HD master or actual remastering efforts, but it's there.
With Blu-Rays getting as cheap as DVDs they are the perfect balance between cost and quality. If you have an 1080p TV then they are brilliant, if on 4K then they'll still upscale nicer than DVDs. 4K is obviously the highest tier, but they can be expensive and obviously not everything is on that format (Blu still has a higher list of movies and shows to buy between that and 4K). If anything at least try to get movies you never owned yet or upgrade your favorites to start off with if you are looking to start collecting 4Ks.
I think it's the money thing, as well as technology adoption fatigue. People had been so used to VHS for 20 years, and had made the big change over to DVD, starting around the year 2000. They just weren't ready to change over *again* a few short years later (6-8 years?) to Blu-Ray. Most people try to hang on to their old technology as long as they can. And, then, the proliferation of streaming has really made a difference.. I don't even really know anyone who collects physical discs any more. My one main friend who did, stopped collecting about 5 years ago.
They’re still in production because people still buy them and studios still make money off them. Lot of places still don’t have good enough internet service to handle streaming platforms and it’s not worth $20-plus a month to have Netflix if it’s going to freeze up halfway through a movie. Recently Kevin Costner gave an interview where he said “all you hear is people saying physical media is dead, but suggest phasing out DVDs to a studio exec. They’ll look at you like you’re crazy.”
I still add dvds to my collection.
Best in Show, Dawn of the Dead (1978), Gangster No. 1, Shadow of the Vampire, Waiting for Guffman, Control, Frailty, etc. There titles are either out of print, production, don’t stream, or never had a proper bluray release.
I would like the option to watch them somehow.
When I know my parents will like a film, I order them a DVD of it to their house., they have no interest in blu ray. It's just simpler.
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A lot of consumers still prefer DVDs just because of familiarity which is fair, my parents are the same to some degree but over time I’ve been able to get them more into Blu-Ray. My Dad’s always been more interested in higher quality anyway, though my mother argues they all look the same
I also wonder why in a world where practically everyone has a 4K TV by now because they are so damn cheap, why are DVDs STILL accounting for 2/3 of the disc market? I believe it's because of both price and the fact that most people are satisfied enough with DVDs being upscaled on their TVs. While I do own some UHD titles, I admit that I find BluRays that are made from film remasters to be quite acceptable on my 4K TV.
I buy DVDs when there is no blu ray/4K available. Or if the blu ray is really difficult to get.
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I got late in on everything. My family got a vhs player when DVDs were already everywhere. I was listening to casette tapes on my walkman when everyone else was listening to CDs on Discmans. I actually skipped out on listening to CDs and went straight into MP3 players from the tapes. Although now I'm using CDs more because my car only has a CD player so I guess I'm somewhat filling that whole from my life lol.
Our family only got a flat screen TV in 2017. Until then we used those old fat TVs. That's the main reason I never got a WiiU. I had a Wii (my first official console) and in 2017 I got a Switch after we bought that more modern TV. So currently I still have a DVD player from that time. And what can I say, it's still working perfectly so there isn't a real reason for me to replace it. Especially because blu ray players are really expensive in my country. I guess that's the life we got after being on the wrong side of the iron curtain for so long.
Anyway, since last year I was thinking the most about getting a blu ray player. I'm a big anime fan and some German companies, that release anime on disc announced that newer series will not always get a DVD version. And yeah there are already 2 series I'm interested in, that won't get a DVD version. Or sometimes they will release the complete series on Bluray but not on DVD, even though the series was released in parts on DVD too.
I was shocked when I found out how expensive Bluray players are here. That's not all, blu ray discs are like 3-4 times more expensive then DVDs. And to be honest I'm not sure I would even notice the difference. But what do I know, to me, certain Switch games look great but that console doesn't have all the crazy specs the others have.
Btw I only had 2 DVD players in my whole life and I'm still using the second one and it works fine. So other then stuff not releasing on DVD, I don't have a reason to go to Bluray. Now I do have a problem in my country because it seems like less and less movies are released physically at all. For example I have Halloween 2018 but they didn't bother to release Halloween kills and ends even though they were released in theaters here. Or I wasn't able to buy any of the Saw movies after Saw7, so I guess watching SawX was a good idea because otherwise I can't watch it legally anymore. I'm super surprised that not even the Mario movie has been released yet. I watched it in a theater in last spring and still no words on a physical release here. Even though the Sonic movies were released already. Though this might change with the 3rd one.
I wanted to get a Bluray player at the end of last year, I was hoping for a good black friday deal but I couldn't find anything and with my DVD player working I don't really have a justification to get a Bluray player. The 2 series I mentioned aren't enough, I don't think it's worth to by a new machine just for 2 series.
So yeah in conclusion I'll try to stay with DVDs as long as I can because of these reasons but we'll see what changes will come.
Unless I like the movie a lot, I'm not paying extra money. At the same price point, I'll go hi-res. Otherwise, DVD is usually half the price.
You are being mislead if you think that 4k discs cost more to produce than DVDs. Most of the cost is the shipping.
Also, Blu-ray menus always suck for some reason.
For me I only get dvds if there are no blu ray version available. And I only get 4k if it’s some thing I really like
The reason why Blu-Rays never really took over is because the format wasn't really that different to the layman, even though the movie buffs do know there is a difference. Most people didn't want to buy a new Player (which was expensive when blu-rays came out) and for most people DVDs are just fine.
The Simple answer is that the majority of consumers don't recognise the difference between Blu-Ray and DVD Enough to consciously make the switch. Casual consumers aren't the same as movie buffs (cinephiles) who want to see the best presentation possible with all the bells and whistles. DVD as a format is also something that has entered the vernacular to become synonymous with home video. I'm old enough to remember the switch from VHS to DVD and it was more than just upgrading technology, DVD was like when the microwave introduced, all of a sudden there were way more options and it became more accessible in a sense. DVD gave birth to more movie collectors, titles that you couldn't find on VHS appeared, they eventually became even cheaper than VHS, you could store more of them also and the overall experience was less hassle. So to ask people who had collected DVD in the 10 or so years between the first time they hit shelves to the advent of Blu-ray (which had a shaky start with it's competing format HD DVD) was a big ask, added to that the rise of Steaming services and illegal downloading and you can see why it never got the reputation of being the innovation that DVD was in 1997
From the US, sometimes DVDs are good for movies that have rights issues preventing a Blu-ray release. Dawn of the Dead 1978 is a big example. Since I just have a regular Blu-ray player (not 4k), I went for the older Dawn DVD and it's worked out well. Cheaper than importing the 4k from the UK too
There's also issues with bad restorations (including bad color grading) on Blu-rays/4ks. For example, on some Criterions releases, they have a blue tint to them not in the original film. Older DVDs are sometimes preferable for this reason.
Still, I prefer Blu-rays overall. Even though my player makes DVDs look really good, Blu-rays have lots of benefits over DVDs. Most of my points only apply to older releases
Same question as why Vinyl's are still in production. Their will always be a demand to have physical media as an assurance that anything we like we will own and be able to watch/listen anytime we want. While it is true in this day and age it is no longer common for a person to use physical media there will always be a nice of people that will still buy and use em. Same reason why books are still being made even now with digital media.
I've asked this ? For years why does dvd still exist. I think bluray is a huge step up from dvd and I think 4k is just a small step up from bluray. Dvd cases are bigger using more plastic and costing more money. I really wish they would have dropped dvds as soon as 4ks came out. I believe the price of bluray and 4k would drop if dvd would drop.
DVDs are cheaper to produce than blu-rays and blu-rays are cheaper to produce than 4Ks.
But you're probably right that the sale price of other formats would drop if DVD disappeared.
As a Home Video Producer for the Special Interest Market, I continue to sell my DVDs because the conversion of the same content to BluRay would mean remaking 20 years of work, having to recall the film elements for scanning, many of which no longer exist. 4K is the scanning standard for 35mm film elements and lay out the money to remake 20 years of work. Many of the films come from 16mm, which are scanned at 2K. And BluRay production is more expensive. And no, VHS was cheap to produce. There was no need for coding. Once DVDs came along, the cost went up. There were menus that had to be created with the coding. The menu functioning could be a technical issue as some did not work. I was fortunate not to have that problem. The only problem with the transfers made 20 years ago is that they were made at "state of the art" according to NTSC analogue standards, which looked beautiful on analogue televisions. The problem with digital televisions is that they impose imperfects that display analogue raster lines that were blended when played on analogue televisions. While conversions are a possibility, the standards of scanning have also caused a demand for restorations which is an additional expense. So the comparison of "quality" between BluRay and DVD is not the fault of the medium so much as what they are being viewed on.
I mainly watch stuff on my phone now. Haven't bought a DVD in years. Very rarely did I buy something on DVD that I already had on VHS. Find that I use my VHS more than my DVD.
I prefer to buy 4K UHD and blu-rays (if I can) but I understand why some people prefer to buy DVDs instead. For example, if someone does not have the necessary equipment to maximize the potential of the 4K UHD or blu-ray format, the price difference may not be worth it. Everyone's income levels and priorities are different so others may prefer the DVD format. I also have DVDs in my collection for movies and TV shows that are not available in the 4K UHD or blu-ray format. I think that it's good for the physical media market to provide various options to consumers (4k UHD, blu-ray, DVD). It will lower the barrier to entry and hopefully entice more people to collect physical media.
There are some films that where released on dvd but not blu ray. One example is a movie called the family stone(2005).
When you go to U.S. libraries they have DVDS. There are more people that don't care about upgrading.
I only buy (mostly) Blurrays or 4k on Sifi, Space themed stuff because of the massif quality difference
Also in Movies with darker settings
but all the other movies I buy in DVD or if they have a cheap Blurray Version I pick that.
but in lower TV Screens the quality between DVD or Blurray isnt much different its more like the choise between 750 p or 870p
When you buy a 4k Screen the 750p DVDs will rise their grafik Quality because they adapt their self to the screen and will get a small HD like quality.
And with Soundboxes the ambience will also increase.
Blurray will just be a small difference
but yes 4k is another level :)
Even though DvD is the cheapest format, blowing up a 480p resolution movie image onto my 83 inch tv won't look nearly as good as a Blu-ray even with the great tv upscaling.
@@joshdimovski4483 yes but 480p you will only find in older movies
but luckily i never had this case on a older movie
We hardly need Dark Shadows 1966, Sanford and Son 1973, or All in the Family Blu Rays. There would be no quality improvement for 1970's television. Now don't get me wrong. 1970's film could be upgraded to 2K Blu Ray, and 1978's Dawn of the Dead looks amazing on Blu Ray. (which is now back up to $55 on ebay right now)
DVDs still work great for tons of rear entertainment systems in family cars that have them. Upcoming road trip? Pick up a bunch of discs from the $3 bin for less than a single blu-ray/4K and you're good to go. Bummer they're phasing out the Blu-ray/DVD combo packs (one for the home, one for the car).
companies won't removed dvds from the market because they make the more money then blu rays and 4k's by alot so why would u get ridr of your format thats making u the most money
Technology turned against running of VHS MACHINE'S
HDMI running DVD players and VHS run of SCART leads into Sky Box and into TV
TV's stopped putting SCART PORT on back of TV sets
Meaning no scart port on tv means no longer able to plug VHS machine into back of TV
Around 3 years ago all tvs came with 2 or 3 HDMI PORTS ONLY
IF HDMI BECAME AN EXTINCT PORT OF BACKS OF TVS DVD AND BLU RAY WOULD DIE OVERNIGHT
Playstation and XBOX are only things keeping DVDs alive in 2024
How long before DVD'S AND BLU RAY become Extinct
Whenever technically companies decide HDMI has had its day
When CDs came out we was told replace your entire music collection from Vynil to CD
LP'S making a return was never part of the 1990s futurist view of 2024
LP came back 3x the price they used to be
Larger margin of profit. DVDs cost like pennies to manufacturer at this point, and they sell for $20 at launch. That how they are able to sell them for $5 or sometimes less now.