WHICH WINS? GoCollect, GPAnalysis, CovrPrice, or Key Collector? | COMIC PRICE GUIDE REVIEW!
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- Today I bought subscriptions to the big 4 of comic book pricing. 2 focus more on slabs, where 2 focus more on raws. I talk about the advantages and disadvantages to each one to offer an informed opinion about which is the winner!
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Thank you for your review and comparisons! Just a few things to note: As noted below, adding the "#" will give you your specific search, and no "#" will just provide a list of the series. For sales shown, Green Lantern #25 was stuck and blocked recent sales. It's been fixed and has been updated. We're also working on a major upgrade to how we match sales, bringing in more (and doing so accurately). The overvalued filler issue is something we're actively looking into. Keep in mind, these are still actual sales, that sold for those prices at those grades. Not everyone can find those issues for $1 and have to turn to online sales to find the copy they want. Though, we're looking into it. Hope that helps! Thanks again!
Time to do an updated version of this video
😊 yeah i never had an issue with cover price
Had to learn that the hard way
Wow, coverprice responded....that is admirable, and may actually join
Just an FYI on both GPA and CovrPrice to look up a specific book you need to type the title with a number sign # before the number. You typed Green Lantern 25 if you type Green Lantern #25 it would have given you options to pick from.
TIP: In GPA put a # in front of your issue number. "Green Lantern #25" will make it slightly easier to do individual lookups.
In covrprice and gpa you should put the pound (#) symbol before the issue number. Makes search much easier. Great content.
I feel like GPA is best. The most accurate is always the winner
Agreed. But man... GoCollect is so user friendly!
Nice comparison. Of course, we all know the value of any collectible is determined by the buyer, not the seller. A comic is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. There will be a big difference between selling retail, vs selling to another collector vs selling to a shop (wholesale).
I mainly collect raw books so I typically use key collector for keys, covrprice for an estimated price, and finally eBay’s recent sales to see what people are actually paying.
I’ve been wondering about the difference between these services! Great timing!
Thanks!
This was very helpful. Thank you once again, James!
Nice vid! I would push back a little on the Covrprice issue with fillers. I feel like Covrprice is more so providing pricing based on what you could look to spend or sell it for on a platform like eBay. Buying in bulk is different.
So you’re able to sell an X-Factor 73 for $6 on eBay? No… things that are worth between $.10-$.50 cents are worth between $.10-$.50 cents
@@MintHunterComics I suppose, I’ve just never seen anything sell on eBay for $0.50 but I understand what you’re saying.
Agreed, specially if the book is of a legit 9.6/9.8 candidate.
Ive never seen anything remotely accurate from Key Collector. Great for referencing keys, though.
I've said it before and it's still true - Key collector makes great lists, and excels at telling you WHAT things are, not so much what they should cost lol
That's because Key Collector isn't a price guide site. It's a database for key issues.
I agree, I've always told people, it's great for info but not for values
@@timdanner2596 They list values. If you can put a wrong number up, you can put the right number up with slightly more effort.
So now we just need a someone to come out and take the best of all these and put them into one all inclusive app and solve all our problems
In a perfect world…..
I didn’t follow which one you recommended for FILLER pricing. Liked your analysis for finding KEY books, as I have often wondered about these services in comparison to each other. Thanks!
For CovrPrice I think you have to put a # sign before the number in the search box and then it will find the specific issue #
That is true. You ;have to put that number in there. He just did not know that by the video. But this is just comparison and his opinion on what works for him.
FYI on CovrPrice, if you put the # in front of the issue number, you will be taken directly to the issue
For Covrprice you have to include a "#' sign before the issue number....so Green Lantern 25 would be Green Lantern#25. Weird I know.
Very awesome information about all of the different pricing guides! I use a few of these methods and they help a ton but have also never heard of covrprice and gpanalysis.
I don't think that the Heritage Auction is an outlier. With all their additional fees the cost of the issue approaches the FMV.
I use PriceCharting as a base since it covers comics, games, sport cards and more. It can get messy with certain listings as variants can sometimes be listed in sold list with base covers. It depends on how the Ebay listing was labeled. As with all of them, best to cross reference and agree with each other (seller and buyer) how to price each item and not get angry with each other when you don't agree. Problem I run into is when a dealer wants to self grade his raw stuff, price a raw book at a graded price and then not allow my opinion on my books he wants the same. I walk away from those dealers 100% of the time.
For me, as a slab collector, I use as many pricing sources as I can. I rely more on GPAnalysis for recent sales pricing (last price and 90 day averages) and pricing trends. However I also acknowledge that it does not pick up all sources of comic book sales. I use GoCollect for FMV (but that is not always reliable relative to recent sales….there is a lag). I use Key Collector to identify keys. I use Ebay to check current listings or recent sales of the book I am watching. I rarely use CovrPrice. Bottom-line, when I am interested in buying or bidding on a slab, I use as many sources as I can to determine a good price.
*_I remember being SHOCKED that these(not all) sites/CB collector tools did not list the price before the sale was complete._*
*_Not what a book sold for that day, but when the final payment was made? So if someone buys a book in 2021 for $100,000 and pays it down over time, the data becomes all skewed in the future; it looks like it's the new price when it's the old price._*
*_Also, there are MAJOR websites that sell thousands of books that still do not list their sales data._*
Great video! I use gocollect myself!
Awesome video…very informative
I am a RAW collector. I am a CLZ user. I understand and accept the non-key bulk/fillers will be near worthless if I sell to a DEALER and likely no more than $1/$3/$5 bin book if I sell myself.
As CLZ identifies KEYS (suspect that is based on something like KEY COLLECTOR, but I could be wrong), and the most accurate value for my collection (if sold by me) would be the value of the KEYS + no more than $.50 to $1 for everything else, it seems to me leveraging COVRPRICE integration with CLZ is the way to go for a non-dealer casual collector like myself to get a general sense (based on the above assumptions) as to what FMV MAY BE for my collection. This enables me to assess what I could sell for (a percentage of FMV) to a buyer/dealer if I were looking to sell it in bulk.
Prior to this I was ballparking MAJOR KEY on average to be at least $20 per book, MINOR KEYs at $10 per book and the remainder of the collection at no more than $1 per book. For my collection, then, of roughly 9,000 books, I can estimate 134 MAJOR at ~$2500, 1700 MINOR at ~$17k and the remaining 7000 books at between $3k to $7k for a total estimated FMV of at least ~$20,000 and at most ~$25k.
I am considering subscribing to COVRPRICE to see if my estimations on KEY valuations holds. Bulk/filler is just that. If I can get anything for them when selling in bulk, then cool.
Thus, if I were wanting to sell my collection as one then a bid of around $15k would be more than reasonable and I would be lucky to get it.
I use Key Collector with reverse eBay because its the cheapest option. I figured out early on not to use key collector as a price guide but rather as a database for what I should lookout for while hunting in the wild. I also don't collect graded books so I never saw the value in paying for subscriptions that focus on those.
Nice comparison. I only use Key Collector when I am just trying to get a rough value while GoCollect seems to be more spot on.
I got too giddy seeing the title. Let’s goooo
Went into one of my local comic shops recently and noticed the owner changed all his $1 bins to $2 bins. All those $1 comics just went up by 100% according to him, I guess.
Last month, it was tough to do, but I upgraded my Cvr Price to annual unlimited status. This was in conjunction with my new sub to CLS to manage my collection & stop using spreadsheets. After over a month of use, I really like the interface bet/ CP & CLS and no longer feel bad on uprading CP. BUT as you said, James, it's expensive to have 4 annual subscriptions, so I thought I had to unsubcribe to one of the other pricing apps. Based on your assessment on GPA's pricing accuracy, I'm not renewing GoC. Thanks for the timely vid and helping with decision! 😊 👍
Pricecharting does Comics now as well, has upgraded and graded values -- could be worthwhile doing a video on that as another option (1 that is free also to look up values)
Funny I was just looking at these as I was about to start selling slabs. Cbcs and cgc.
A lot of these tools used to use eBay’s API for sold prices. Used to be great for many. eBay made it almost impossible to get sold prices trends with the new comic category changes and took away the API tool.
Barring scraping programs, it can now only be done manually.
GoCollect is the only one that's fun to look through. The rest feel like a bit of a chore. GPA is the most accurate
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Great video! Definitely like GPA the best and have used them for years. You can save money by buying a full year up front. They easily pay for themselves with a single comic purchase !
good video, bro. very informing.
we need a collection tracking site review now, i think covrprice wins that, great tools to know what you have and need, and the pricing is a bonus more than a perfect estimate
As an extension to what you said, CLZ actully uses covrprice for the prices, but is much better for cataloguing a collection. Very easy to use and pull data from.
@@wildman-kz4zz i like the link with the two, as i can export my collection to CLZ. but when i tried to use CLZ for a quick moment in the past, i found myself reverting back to covrprice as i think it's faster in use, and i like their added industry insight content that has been growing recently
I have Key Collector on my phone but I don’t pay for the substitution and I can still see the keys. Thanks for the video. I’ve been trying to decide which product I want to go with and so I think I’m going back to GPA! 🎉
I use both comics price guide and covrprice....we all the slab issues I am considering GPA just to track slab sells to see the values and last sold
Here's a slightly different use case. While I agree most of these tools are showing what would be the FMV for books, keys and non-keys, in the selling and spec game it's always about keys. Now for insurance purposes, if I had to replace those late run x-factor books that CP shows at $3, that would be on the low-end, either given time to source them from dollar bins or pay for shipping on ebay.
If Key Collector prices were accurate, we'd all be rich!!!
Awesome video! Always wanted to know this.
Glad it was helpful!
GPA doesn't use any CBCS sales data, though. Oh, and great video; I was just thinking about asking you which service you would most recommend for raw keys.
You have to keep in mind with CovrPrice it gives you individual sales off eBay, MCS, Heritage. Those books sold separately, with shipping are accurate. It’s not an apples to apples comparison to compare an LCS dollar bin with buying online. You aren’t going to get those filler books for 50 cents online. It’s totally true that that if you’re going to sell to a dealer; they aren’t going to give you individual online sales prices.
The other thing to keep in mind that a strict eBay search is a trap. You don’t know best offer sales. Also single bid auctions often go for more than that single bid. Finally, even buy it now prices aren’t accurate on eBay because if the seller and buyer agreed to a price eBay does NOT give that to you. So beware when using eBay sold. Thanks for reviewing the sites.
Use just key collector bc I dont resell. Just collect it is nice to know the prices tho.
What about whatnot prices? Where do those sellers get those ridiculous prices from?!?
Gr8 vid. CLZ says my 4,700 comic collection of raw books is worth $42k. But just like 90% of amateur collectors, I am sure I've mis-classified half if not most books. My 8.0 could easily be a 6.5. When I'm done with this hobby, I'll just donate all filler non-keys to my local Goodwill. 😊
The problem that each and every one of these sites have is that they do not account for cells in person at shows at auction houses in some cases or antique shops
I'd say that the $.10 price is a wholesale price and not what the true value is. Dealers have to buy low so they can still make a profit when selling in their shops. I would think the filler or bulk would generally be between $.50 to $1.00 depending on condition and title. What do you price your bulk books for when selling?
Funny everyone saying the same thing. I was enjoying this video and it was great but not knowing to use # and number took away from it.
.10-.50 books? I need to find the place that sells those....
What is your guess as to ebay's data as an overall percentage of the total data available to these services? My guess is that it could be over 70%, unless talking high value golden age where Heritage may be >70%. None of the services have their own original data, and are limited to whatever method they use to identify sales data as being for a specific comic book issue on their site. The free data from Heritage and ebay sales history is plenty good enough for myself as a collector. My experience is that dealers largely cite the low sales price when buying and the high price when selling, and as a tool for that the services are efficient. I think that for a collector wanting to manage their data with a service (spreadsheets here) that coverprice is the only choice. Always good content here!
What are your thoughts on PriceCharting? I feel like it gets you pretty close, especially for raw/ungraded books.. but I’m curious on how to price for an ungraded book that looks to be in exceptional condition.
I feel like it does a good job of averaging everything out based on eBay sales.
I believe it all depends upon what someone is willing to pay.
I estimate my collection to be worth approximately 15k. Coverprice says my collection is worth 73k
I suppose Go Collect would be the go to for me
Where did you get evaluated? I have a collection from 80's, 90's, 2000's. Have a lot of Spawn and Ghost rider, Deadpool.
Just starting the video but throwing out an idea of comparing the comic organization apps: CLZ, Comic Geeks, Libib etc. unless you have a direct opinion on it already.
I don't fault CovrPrice for giving values to "filler" books, because that's what they are worth on eBay. But, it doesn't mean someone selling 1000 books can liquidate all that. Also, anyone buying comics collections to resell will never pay anything close to actual value. So someone with 30K on CovrPrice might only expect to get 5-10K max in bulk anyway.
Honestly what I usually see is when CovRPrice says $30k it usually means like $2k lol 😂
Subscribing to a bunch of these market pricing sites is just throwing money away. Obviously, the calculation is different for sellers - but for buyers, you can get the market price of a book you're after for free just by paying attention to a few sites and going to stores, shows, and cons.
I honestly agree. I cringed when I had to buy all these just for one video 😫😭
Hey Mint have you started collecting on veve yet? I like getting the physical and digital copies of my favorite books
GPA wins, as you showed they are mor accurate in their FMV. Just because they SMARTLY lay it out with every possible variation (especially with autographed books), but don't show any pictures, the accuracy and details trump pictures any day.
It’s very interesting this topic but here’s my question what’s a filler? What do you mean by that? Also so what you saying which I’m just saying this for accurate key book prices use cvrprice?cause I have modern key books that’s why I’m asking let me know thanks
James good video thank you...what about my comic price guide? Where does it fall in the hierarchy of comic book pricing? Thank you
So, my question is...when do newer comics ($3 - $5cover prices) get downgraded to the .10 - .50cent mark? Most are not keys directly from the publisher.
Covrprice you can look up issue numbers but you have to use the # before the number. Also of note the asterisk on that $130 price means they do not have sales data for at least the last 3 months, that particular issues shows sales in 2001 and nothing newer. Could be that the people selling it are not categorizing it as the variant so it is not picking up sales data. If you would have looked at the actual numbers there it also shows the most recent sale was July 2001 at $84
Very helpful-thank you!
I thought cover price was only 6 dollars not 60
With both GPA and cover price, you really need to put the hashtag before the number.
Good tip, thanks!
I use gp and pricecharting. I ve to say golpe is the perfection
Go Collect and ebay all you need
Love your channel
Good video idea I enjoyed it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yep Got it!
Hi. Great video. Thanks for sharing. I have a collection of around 6500 raw comics. Mostly indies. I collect comics purely based on what I want to read and have never actually sold a single comic. I know there are key comics in my collection, for example Swamp Thing, Sandman, Saga, Something is Killing the Children, etc. that are potentially worth more than the original cover price but as you described I am sure there is also lot of "filler" comics in there as well as I tend to collect full series. I am interested to value my collection, not so much to sell now but believe it or not for content insurance. Also as I am getting on in years so if anything were to happen to me I would like to be able to leave my daughters with a reasonable guideline as to what they should expect the collection to be worth as I appreciate they will want to sell it. What would you advise as a quick and easy way to bulk value the entire collection. Thanks.
GPA's search engine is terrible. If you're trying to look up a particular book, you have to type in the title *and* the issue number with a #, example: Superman #25. It will list all the number 25s for every volume, but no pics for reference.
If only GPA had GoCollect's intuitive platform
Thanks for the video. I’ve been thinking on whether I need one of these. I pay the additional fee for key collector but I think I need to jump into on of the other platforms. I only collect Thor (Jim too) silver to current. Sounds like covprice could be the best option?
Seems a little biased as you want to buy collections for pennies of their worth. Then you jump around between sites to get top dollar for keys you sell. I remember dealers like this from back in the day that would jump through multiple price guides to give you the lowest price possible...Lol
Cover price goes by the latest eBay sales
Well then it gets confused and goes off of Shan data or something because it’s WILDLY inaccurate with 80s-present raws
@@MintHunterComics I'm not saying you are wrong I'm just saying those filer books are those prices on eBay all day long. That s is y I personally sell on eBay cause my lcs does not even make an offer for books arric the owner says cause he has to low ball to much and he doesn't have the space .all that aside I love the Chanel and will keep watching
Okay ..so I need to Hashtag the issue#
Comics price guide? has anyone used it?
Do the same free sites with newsstand prices
This is the problem with these newer books prices yet silver age seems to go into a waste land.Just like baseball cards Newer cards are hot Yet Mickey Mantle is not in demand.
I'm just going to ask you!
My 2 cents before I watch. Even with the improvements to GoCollect and Covrprice .... GPA far and away the best. Now let me watch.
In the thumbnail you look like a trained assassin... is this true ???
You forgot hip comics
I don't know that one!
@@MintHunterComics I don't know if you play magic or Pokemon it's like TCGplayer where you can scan your comic books and it gives you a value and grade through the picture
I think everyone that committed against James today thinks their collection is worth more than it actually is. If he is saying a price he sells it for and you say it's worth more it's not. Because I can buy what he is selling it for and that's how much it's worth
Cries in £ from the UK 😂
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Thanks!
Gocollect hands down for me
I agree, there are some major issues with the site (and specific books, occasionally), but as long as you're aware of the FMV weaknesses and you're looking at the sales data yourself instead of just their listed FMV it's great for slabbed. It also takes into account signed and tracks all CBCS sales as well.
Why do you sell graded books when CGC has been exposed.$1000 X-Men 121 give me a break.
I’ve just got a copy back of JIM 20 in a 7.0. I only have Go collect but last recorded sale was 2015 at $995. Dunno what to price this as today, could you help possibly please 🥹❤