I've been trying this technique on a practice book over the past few days. It's shocking how much stain I have been able to remove. I'm really blown away by the positive results. Gonna try spot HOP with a tack iron next.
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great book, great channel. I did my FIRST double HOP last week, but only used RO water, without H2O2 (that's the next step for me), bot LOTS of gunk off! this is amazing! the book is a GREAT GREAT resource. thx for th videos as well, I'm more of a visual learner, so I am using these videos with the book to make sure I'm doing all that I should be doing.
Repent and trust in Jesus. We all deserve Hell for our sins, such as lying lusting coveting and more. We can't save ourselves, but Jesus can save us. He died on the cross to save us for our sins and rose from the grave defeating death and Hell. You must put your faith in him only. He is the only way to Heaven. Repent and trust in Jesus. Romans 6:23 John 3:16❤😊❤❤
Thanks for posting the HOP process. I just bought the book and will start practicing after the holidays. Hopefully after a lot of pratice I will get results like you!
I've got both of the books but cannot really follow the technique from reading it. Maybe I am more a visual learner but you have certainly unlocked a few boxes as far as the process is applied. Much appreciated!
Thank you for all the info you are sharing in the comic book community. It is greatly appreciated. I have a small box of books to work on this method with. Thanks again and keep the great videos coming.
@@TopComicsPressing $1 to rich for blood. $.50 or less 😂. It's great seeing books that are really just garbage get some life put back into them. Have a great day 👍
Repent and trust in Jesus. We all deserve Hell for our sins, such as lying lusting coveting and more. We can't save ourselves, but Jesus can save us. He died on the cross to save us for our sins and rose from the grave defeating death and Hell. You must put your faith in him only. He is the only way to Heaven. Repent and trust in Jesus. Romans 6:23 John 3:16❤❤😊❤
Wonderful to see something new. I do something very similar but use UV light on the book for 4 hours per side being whitened. I also use 6% diluted to 4+% on the H202. This method look promising as a "do it all in one shot method". I do UV peroxide then press with mositure after wiping it down before the press with clean water.
Thanks for posting this. It was good to see a slightly different approach to what I've already seen on other posts. I do like this technique and as a fanboy of the Marvel Silver age, I've got plenty of book that can use a good cleaning other than just a dry cleaning, which I already do. In your Peroxide mix, would distilled water be a better option than just tap water? May I ask what brand of heat press you use? Seems like a 15 x 15 size is most common from what I've seen. Thanks again. Best to all.
I think it was these - www.amazon.com/Enoin-Acrylic-Plexiglass-Transparent-Paintings/dp/B09F6DJVNC/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2THMQPQA7PMTM&keywords=acrylic+sheets+1%2F8+thick+8x10&qid=1670795910&sprefix=acrylic+sheets+1%2F8+thick+8x%2Caps%2C167&sr=8-4
@@TopComicsPressing Thanks Joe! I actually ordered the same brand before you replied back. I went with the larger 11 x 14 size for both magazines and comics.
Do you think CGC would find traces of the peroxide and grade as Restored? If seen other videos where they rinse with distilled water to remove any chemical traces.
I have had good luck w/o needing to do so. Peroxide naturally decomposes to water and oxygen. The heat from press destroys most of it and after 2nd normal press, I bet it’s all gone
That book could be a 2.5-3.0 but if you look at any guide it doesn’t “scream” to be fixed up. No matter what you do to it - it’s a $200 book, whether it’s .5 or 3.0 it’s value is $200. I guess it’s a good example for a video.
The pages are still clearly yellow though! CGC would not give that a white pages score. Yea you might have taken a very small percentage of yellowing off but nowhere near complete. This method might work for a book with slight yellowing bit definitely no grade bump would occur when grading this book.
You would def get a grade bump. You can get very high grades w cream to off white pages. The page quality almost never impacts the grade unless brittle
It varies by region… believe it or not but the same paper is not the same paper. In the book we suggest 20lb printer paper - just be sure if you most it the water absorbs instead of beading up on top. If it beads up, that’s a problem. Need it to soak in. Other than that anything should work
What if, during the removal of the sheet after press, you also see color being slightly removed from the book? Too much peroxide? Paper too wet? What is the correct % mixture of distilled water and peroxide in the mister? 50/50?
I do 50/50. I have had problems w color lift w some book even w do water only. So I don’t think it’s a issue w peroxide. I think sometimes the ink is already compromised. If you catch it before peeling, you can rewet the sheet and prevent some lift. But, the color lift is what makes this a risky process
@@TopComicsPressing Would you get a purple label if submitted or is the color lift a normal issue (even for pros) and you'd still get the blue label? Thanks
@@chrisojeda7377 I cannot comment on what will or won’t earn you a purple label… only CGC can do that and they won’t ever give a straight answer. If you look at the grade book for what they use as tells for cover cleaning, it does list washed out color, but, it t does not give dxamples
@@chrisojeda7377 I will say several book treated this was have received blue labels… one was pegged as purple… www.flickr.com/photos/192679160@N04/albums/72177720298803467 this one earned a 4.0 universal grade
Yup. Can happen. So far CGC has only flagged two book I have been responsible for. Both were heavily tanned early SA books. One was my bad. Several have gotten blue labels in the last week. So odds are still low of getting flagged if done right
I've been trying this technique on a practice book over the past few days. It's shocking how much stain I have been able to remove. I'm really blown away by the positive results. Gonna try spot HOP with a tack iron next.
Awesome
Repent and trust in Jesus. We all deserve Hell for our sins, such as lying lusting coveting and more. We can't save ourselves, but Jesus can save us. He died on the cross to save us for our sins and rose from the grave defeating death and Hell. You must put your faith in him only. He is the only way to Heaven. Repent and trust in Jesus.
Romans 6:23
John 3:16❤😊❤
great book, great channel. I did my FIRST double HOP last week, but only used RO water, without H2O2 (that's the next step for me), bot LOTS of gunk off! this is amazing! the book is a GREAT GREAT resource. thx for th videos as well, I'm more of a visual learner, so I am using these videos with the book to make sure I'm doing all that I should be doing.
Thanks for watching! Glad you got some good results. It does work with water alone.
Repent and trust in Jesus. We all deserve Hell for our sins, such as lying lusting coveting and more. We can't save ourselves, but Jesus can save us. He died on the cross to save us for our sins and rose from the grave defeating death and Hell. You must put your faith in him only. He is the only way to Heaven. Repent and trust in Jesus.
Romans 6:23
John 3:16❤😊❤❤
Thanks for posting the HOP process. I just bought the book and will start practicing after the holidays. Hopefully after a lot of pratice I will get results like you!
Thanks!
I've got both of the books but cannot really follow the technique from reading it. Maybe I am more a visual learner but you have certainly unlocked a few boxes as far as the process is applied. Much appreciated!
Will do a few in bled eventually
Thanks for the look at the double HOP in action!
Welcome
Thank you for all the info you are sharing in the comic book community. It is greatly appreciated. I have a small box of books to work on this method with. Thanks again and keep the great videos coming.
Practice on $1 books first. You will ruin a few practicing. I only do this in books pre 1976. Newer books have covers that are too thin
@@TopComicsPressing $1 to rich for blood. $.50 or less 😂. It's great seeing books that are really just garbage get some life put back into them. Have a great day 👍
Repent and trust in Jesus. We all deserve Hell for our sins, such as lying lusting coveting and more. We can't save ourselves, but Jesus can save us. He died on the cross to save us for our sins and rose from the grave defeating death and Hell. You must put your faith in him only. He is the only way to Heaven. Repent and trust in Jesus.
Romans 6:23
John 3:16❤❤😊❤
Such a great video, Joe -- we can see everything so clearly, it's truly for us to screw up. Fantastic 👏👏👏
Appreciated - will have a few more example video coming soon (I hope)
Wonderful to see something new. I do something very similar but use UV light on the book for 4 hours per side being whitened. I also use 6% diluted to 4+% on the H202. This method look promising as a "do it all in one shot method". I do UV peroxide then press with mositure after wiping it down before the press with clean water.
Thanks for sharing
Very nice work. you can really tell the difference
Thanks - stay tuned
Everyone is here for the stain removal. The video "I'm not going to spill all the secrets." Thx.
Sorry - promised to ask folks to buy book when posting - part of the arrangement w KM
That looks Scary! Great Job! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Higher risk than most techniques
Thanks for posting this. It was good to see a slightly different approach to what I've already seen on other posts. I do like this technique and as a fanboy of the Marvel Silver age, I've got plenty of book that can use a good cleaning other than just a dry cleaning, which I already do. In your Peroxide mix, would distilled water be a better option than just tap water? May I ask what brand of heat press you use? Seems like a 15 x 15 size is most common from what I've seen. Thanks again. Best to all.
15x15 press - I use DI water not tap water. Practice in $1 booms
Thanks Joe! So is there an advantage to cutting the 3% peroxide?
Gentler on paper and less risk of ink damage. But 3% does work
Awesome video! How long do you press the book for?
@@knightypops5963 have to buy book for time and temp - sorry
Cool , I’ll attempt after I press another 500 books
Fantastic video! Mind sharing the type of acrylic paper you chose? Must be smooth, not textured so as not to leave imprints from pressing? Thx
Thanks. Paper is best to start w printer paper. The acrylic is the thicker clear sheet under the paper. I don’t put acrylic in the press
May have to try this.
Please do! But I strongly advise, practicing on several dollar books 1st. It is very easy to make mistakes.
Thanks for walking through your Double HOP Process Joe! Do you have a link for the acrylic clear sheets that you used? I'd like to order them. Thanks!
I think it was these - www.amazon.com/Enoin-Acrylic-Plexiglass-Transparent-Paintings/dp/B09F6DJVNC/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2THMQPQA7PMTM&keywords=acrylic+sheets+1%2F8+thick+8x10&qid=1670795910&sprefix=acrylic+sheets+1%2F8+thick+8x%2Caps%2C167&sr=8-4
@@TopComicsPressing Thanks Joe! I actually ordered the same brand before you replied back. I went with the larger 11 x 14 size for both magazines and comics.
appreciate the video
Welcome
I’m going out today and buy that book good info😮
Awesome- join FB too
Nice work!
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Do you think CGC would find traces of the peroxide and grade as Restored? If seen other videos where they rinse with distilled water to remove any chemical traces.
I have had good luck w/o needing to do so. Peroxide naturally decomposes to water and oxygen. The heat from press destroys most of it and after 2nd normal press, I bet it’s all gone
Awesome. How long did you press it and at what temp?
Got to buy the books for that. I can give their whole recipe out. Sorry - was intentionally omitted
@@TopComicsPressing I have the book. Just haven't done that method yet.
@@jballard7013 follow time and temp and basic protocol on pages 96 and 97
Do you do any dry cleaning before or after?? thanks
Before - def before
That book could be a 2.5-3.0 but if you look at any guide it doesn’t “scream” to be fixed up. No matter what you do to it - it’s a $200 book, whether it’s .5 or 3.0 it’s value is $200. I guess it’s a good example for a video.
But it looks better 😊
The pages are still clearly yellow though! CGC would not give that a white pages score. Yea you might have taken a very small percentage of yellowing off but nowhere near complete. This method might work for a book with slight yellowing bit definitely no grade bump would occur when grading this book.
You would def get a grade bump. You can get very high grades w cream to off white pages. The page quality almost never impacts the grade unless brittle
And you don’t have to take my word for it - you can watch the case study videos where I show the CGC result
CGC PUTS LABELS OF RESTORATION FOR "CHEMICAL CLEANING".CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT CHEMICAL CLEANING AS A FORM OF RESTORATION.
See intro chapter to SRW book as well as my comments on channel if you search cover cleaned
Also so sorry for another question, what kind of paper do you use? I tried it out today but i think the paper I used was not the correct one
The paper you use for the 1.5 solution
It varies by region… believe it or not but the same paper is not the same paper. In the book we suggest 20lb printer paper - just be sure if you most it the water absorbs instead of beading up on top. If it beads up, that’s a problem. Need it to soak in. Other than that anything should work
@@TopComicsPressingperfect thank you! Your the best
What if, during the removal of the sheet after press, you also see color being slightly removed from the book? Too much peroxide? Paper too wet? What is the correct % mixture of distilled water and peroxide in the mister? 50/50?
I do 50/50. I have had problems w color lift w some book even w do water only. So I don’t think it’s a issue w peroxide. I think sometimes the ink is already compromised. If you catch it before peeling, you can rewet the sheet and prevent some lift. But, the color lift is what makes this a risky process
@@TopComicsPressing Would you get a purple label if submitted or is the color lift a normal issue (even for pros) and you'd still get the blue label? Thanks
@@chrisojeda7377 I cannot comment on what will or won’t earn you a purple label… only CGC can do that and they won’t ever give a straight answer. If you look at the grade book for what they use as tells for cover cleaning, it does list washed out color, but, it t does not give dxamples
@@chrisojeda7377 I will say several book treated this was have received blue labels… one was pegged as purple… www.flickr.com/photos/192679160@N04/albums/72177720298803467 this one earned a 4.0 universal grade
So basically your finished comic retains hydrogen peroxide within the paper in absence of a washing treatment having been undertaken?
No. Peroxide breaks down w heat and time naturally. It has a first order decay. Your just damaging the paper w extra superfluous washes
does the book fall apart after 10 years with this treatment?
Two Year Check in on Comic Book Stain Removal and Whitening Examples - Reversion? Brittleness?
th-cam.com/video/reILsgql_Is/w-d-xo.html
Year three check in is due in October
I have seen that CGC is now flagging books like this as restored, have you ever run into this?
Yup. Can happen. So far CGC has only flagged two book I have been responsible for. Both were heavily tanned early SA books. One was my bad. Several have gotten blue labels in the last week. So odds are still low of getting flagged if done right
@@TopComicsPressing did you do just the cover? Seems easy for CGC to pickup on just covwr looking nice.
@@daushaus89 yes - just cover. You would be surprised if you look at 20 books how different cover can be from wraps.
@@TopComicsPressing so are you saying the wraps were good but cover was not? Can you do that process on the wraps?
@@daushaus89 not w out taking book apart
you should use "distilled water" by the way, not tap water.
Yes - never tap water
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What temp was the press set at and how long did you press it?
All in the SRW book. As stated in video.
So basically go buy the book. Thanks.