@@Panman11 Maybe related to how you can't even get out from under Avalugg before the game decides you're too far away and recalls it? Something that size would require very different notions of what constitutes "nearby".
To be fair, Midbus would troll Bowser like that. I was half expecting him to say "Weak....you had to cheat to win..." But I wonder if you could patiently level grind? I don't remember if Bowser fights enemies before that point. I know you can fight some Shrooboids before the Shroob battle.
@@benn454 If that were to ever happen I don’t think it’d be fair to the protagonist to fight something that would just mangle their body to an unrecognizable level, or just turn them into a Bidoof
Pretty much every game in the series has been like that when cheating to catch Pokémon you shouldn't have is involved. Stealing Pokémon in other games just ends the battle as if you defeated that trainer for example.
@@kitestar I mean, i would assume they would, seeing as you're obviously not supposed to have a Lord Pokémon. Although it's weird how it functions perfectly (besides the obvious) in a battle against something else.
Its interesting to see the tutorial Midbus and Shroob fight not get softlocked or have the game crash when beaten. I guess it's because the game knows the battle is over and it just resumes like usual. Almost as if planned...
It's kinda strange. I remember me trying out cheats in BiS a long time ago and actually having the midbus fight softlock. Perhaps it could be caused by killing him with the first counter punch. Or I might be confusing it with the tutorial bowser battle.
What likely happens is after the battle ends, the result of the battle isn't checked, and instead the same event always happens. Normally, it would check the result and take you to different things depending on it.
@@TheFinalChapters That's only if the developers planned for a fight to be winnable, but not be a mandatory win. Or occasionally, it's a mandatory win but either that battle, or the entire game in some cases, doesn't have a game over trigger. For example, in an SNES RPG called Estpolis Denki II, or Lufia II in the US or just Lufia in Europe, the first fight with the first of the main antagonists is possible to win with careful preparation, and if you do win the game rewards you before story takes over and he wipes your party out before leaving anyway, and the story continues like normal from there. Meanwhile, in the game's prequel, the first encounter with that character has drastically inflated HP and Attack Power over even his endgame fight. He has over 60000 HP at a time where you're lucky to deal 10 per attack, and he deals between 580 and 650 damage with a single attack where you'll have 30 HP at most, it's clearly a battle never intended to be won. So, if you go into the code and adjust stats to make it a proper fight, as if the boss is playing with you a la Ghirahim, the result is still that after the fight the main character's defeated and things continue as normal with literally no change. Because an alternate outcome doesn't exist in the code.
For Mother Brain, it's actually possible to kill her DURING the scene where the baby Metroid is healing you by using the re-stand glitch, but it softlocks the game. The glitch is used for speedruns since it allows you to drop Mother Brains health low enough during that cutscene to where after getting the Hyper Beam, it only takes one or two shots to kill her and save quite a few seconds.
it don't softlock the game if you drop her to 0 HP, you can't kill MB until the cutscene finish, even when she is at 0 HP, what can happen is when you shoot at the same time you get hyper beam the game lag terribly and its become super slow processing like 1 frame at a time, can remove this condition by holding item cancel, and MB has 3 phase, phase 1 has 3000 HP and can only die when the glass is fully broken which take 18 projectile (missiles or super missiles) second phase has 18000 HP and last phase has 36000 HP, its possible to make her at 0 HP but you will need to shot one last shot to kill her after the cutscene
@@FrenchLightningJohn I have to do this since there is NO excuse to let this slide. *It doesn't softlock the game if you drop her hp to zero, you cannot kill Mother Brain until the baby cutscene finishes, even when her health reaches zero. What does happen when you shoot on the same frame you get hyper beam is the game starts lagging terribly and processes very slowly (like 1 frame a second), but you can stop this by holding item cancel. Mother brain has three phases Phase 1 has 3000 health and can only be killed after breaking the glass (18 missiles or supers). Phase 2 has 18,000 health and phase 3 has 36,000 health. It is possible to drop her health to zero but you'll need to fire one last shot after the baby cutscene to end her. I hope you are happier now that I am showing my contributions to the society of elite grammaticals!!!
@@Conbreen Who would expect that loser to win??? I bet not even the best Pokemon Rumble gamer ever managed to beat that Battle royale with Sh|ttata without using cheats!
@@robertwildschwein7207 True. He said in the previous version even if you dodge all attacks, your time would run out. So yeah, not happening without cheating
Ok I know it was a cheat, but I thought it was actually pretty cool how you can legit catch the Lord pokemon and use it in a battle with its actual size, color, and even move set. EVEN ITS ANIMATIONS ARE THERE LOL
@@Joltemon that is yet another reason to not like sword and shield. Honestly, love some of the pokemon designs like flapple, but then we have worse empoleon and the nuke button, and I don't think I need to keep kicking the horse but it's therapeutic at this point.
The reason Lord Avalugg is fully complete is the same reason dark souls bosses are fully complete when they are hacked into being playable. They are built to use the same systems the player uses in battle for fairness. That's why the bosses in all souls games have a pattern of a wild flurry of attacks and backing off, they have their own Stamina meter and inventory to manage.
Not really fairness, Risk of Rain 2 uses the same method and they explained it really well If both player characters and enemies work with the same system, you essentially cut an entire part of the work from the equation since everything you make for the player now works for the enemies too Both can share functions A system like this has downsides since now changing enemies can also break the most complex characters: the player characters. And all the code that works with the player is now run with all the enemies too, adding more load. Most tactical RPGs use this system too, like Tactics ogre or FFTactics, this is why there are cheats to control the enemy as if they where your units In fact, i am making one and i also went for this system, just easier to manage
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I love how in Pokemon Rumble the game is like "hey you won, go to the next stage" then kicks the Rattata out as if they were saying "nah bro you're trash, that didn't count"
@@robertwildschwein7207 if u give Focus sash to a low level Rattata and have the moves endeavor and quick attack you can defeat Any strong enough pokemon (for example not a lv2 Pidgey but yes a lv100 arceus) if they do not have a priority attack like quick attack extreme speed shadow sneak or bullet punch. First let the enemy use Any strong move to get you to 1hp(you Will survive with Focus sash) and you use endeavor (that Will make the foe have also 1hp) and lastly you use the priority attack quick attack to end the foe before he does
I remember getting so mad at the shadow queen. I actually got lucky with a freeze and managed to get her hp to zero before she could make a move, but then she just skipped to her next phase making me waste the items and fp that I used.
That battle actually taught me how how to deal with frustration caused by a videogame for the first time in my life. When it wants, Nintendo can be savage
Yeah, it reminds me of how there’s unique dialogue for yoshi in the chief chilly boss in Super Mario 64 ds even when you have to glitch yoshi into the boss.
My favorite example of this is Devil May Cry 5, there's a couple of supposed to lose fights in a game but if you win them the game just goes "damn I didn't think you'd do that, you win I guess." And rolls credits.
It’s funny, because the game basically goes either: 1) “no u” and kills you right back anyway. or 2) “oh yeah? be that way.” and the game kills itself.
Except DMC5 cus they actually made Urizen defeatabled with _pure skill_ Of course the ending is lackluster too cuz there's no character development and no MOTIVATION
6:06 I love how well Bowser's incredulity also fits this scenario; 'Muh-huh-huh-huh! You may have beaten me, but because reasons, I am victorious anyway!' '...WHAT? How does THAT work?' 'Like I told you, reasons! Because them!'
fun fact about SMRPG, apparently if your speed stat(?) is hacked high enough in the first bowser fight, you can target Toadstool with your attacks for some reason.
possibly because toadstool may be considered an "enemy", just one with no attacks and ungodly speed, so if you get even stupider speed, then you can attack her, but that's just a theory a Gm thry tansk fr redin
*Avalugg, lord of the snow, 10x bigger than a normal avalugg, weighs a ton and glows bright yellow making it very menacing* *Bidoof is keeping its guard up*
@@robertwildschwein7207 Either TF2/MC Java missing texture or texture that is a Minecraft dirt block with “upd ate!” on it (which is Minecraft bedrock’s missing texture only used for blocks and probably items. For the rest, it uses the other type of missing texture.)
@@Mordecai02 Focus sash Endevour (quick) Attack Rattata. It gets taken down to one health, uses Endevour, uses quick attack to finish the job. It's a dumb memey cheese strategy. There are of course other variations using things like toxic spikes, sandstorm/hail, and sturdy with other Pokemon, but Rattata is the original user of the concept.
Ironically, the Midbus scene STILL makes sense after bowser won, because bowser has no idea how Midbus came back. Also, the Metroid one does make sense because it's not just about getting the hyper beam from Mother brain, it's taking the same ability FROM mother brain.
Seeing mario and luigi partners in time as the very first one makes insanely nostalgic, so much that I’m actually on the edge of crying. It was such a fantastic game
that could probably be fixed by blacking out, granted you could lose items, or maybe not. if it still considers you to be in the battle, it might bring up the "reset, keep progress, or admit defeat" box. press admit defeat and you would keep the pokemon AND get rid of the timer and music, all without losing ANY items!!! Edit: Of course, if you werent on the rematch like they were, you would not be able to progress through the story without attempting the battle for real. but you would have your own noble to power through the others. And **SPOILERS** this would also make the postgame fight against Volo much easier.
For Mother Brain, you can actually continue doing damage until it has 0/1 health left, but until the Metroid dies you can’t kill MB. That said, it should be relatively simple to mod the logic to allow MB to be defeated. The Super Metroid hacking/speedrunning community should have some ideas.
I love most of the Mario RPG games, but Partners in Time is my favorite. The fact that they added 2 more buttons to worry about during combat made things way more dynamic and challenging.
4:13 idk why but the music cut off made this perfect. The cut off sounded like this was what Rattata thought happened but nope! Reality was that he was knocked out and dreaming this entire time.
Hey! I remember using an infinite HP cheat I got softlocked in Partners In Time, I got hit by the big plasma ball and killed the Shroobs finishing the fight but not showing the cut scene making me stuck in there unable to do anything since I couldn't re trigger the figth
Midbus: “Muh Muh you’re weak, much weak.” Ok either Midbus didn’t use his full power on Bowser and went easy on him or He can’t die. Even the final fight with him after Fawful gives him ice powers he doesn’t die just trapped within ice.
The shadow queen one is somewhat reasonable in real play if you’ve got someone running the danger Mario setup, even if that many power rushes would be absolutely overkill.
Generally it doesn't matter. The gamecode of many games is basicly IF win THEN do x ELSE do y. But you can also ignore those and just add stuff afterward, making the battle result irrelevant, and that's what results in the cases of this video. But sometimes it can result in, well, softlocks because particularly bad programming only has a "IF lost THEN" condition and the game doesn't know what to do as nothing is defined otherwise.
It becomes especially cool if the developers program something in for these "unintended" cases. And it seems like at least with Arceus they planned for that, since why else would there be a menu entry and icon for the Lords? Also slightly unrelated: Or Demon's Souls: You're not supposed to kill the tutorial boss, but when you manage to do, you even get "rewarded" with a special scenario. Love stuff like that :D
There is 1 in Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn on Wii, there is this 1 mission where you must protect the Main character with the Black Knight, totally unbeatable by every single enemy on that map (takes no damage from everyone, and 1-rounds them), and if you do some sort of cheat and get him killed, there actually is a unique dialogue of BK saying sorry and the main char regarding how it was impossible for him to have been defeated by these weaklings xd.
The legends clip is really interesting for so many reasons, like how the theme doesn't build up when fighting the wild pokemon, or how the game treats the boss fight pokemon like any other pokemon and not only that but even gives them moves which under normal play wouldn't even ever be seen.
It probably has to do with them being coded similiar to other Pokemon, just normally you'd be restricted from catching them, but due to the cheats used you bypass that restriction. There are a few other games that also do a similiar thing where the Bosses or Enemies are following the same rules as the player, thus have coded-in things that you'd normally never get to see without Cheats/Hacks. An MMO i played has a Modificatin which actually allowed you to open and look at the Inventory of enemies and they actually just spawned the same Ogre in, but depending on what weapon the RNG gave them, they'd have higher or lower Attack.
Mario and Luigi wait a minute we defeated you guys True we don't know how did logic works can we just continue on with the story please Mario and Luigi fine we'll play along
My headcanon for the Shroob battle is that the Shroob UFO blasts you during the victory screen while you're celebrating (they're bad guys, after all, they don't play fair) and three new Shroobs come in to take their place. And for the first Midbus battle, Midbus runs away after Bowser beats him, then comes back to taunt him for being "weak", Bowser's merely confused by all this.
Same here, I still have the cartridges of the first 2 Rumble and a demo of the third one, but since my 3dsXL's upper screen has a few cracks that make most of the screen black, most games are near unplayable
Fun fact: Mother Brain is vulnerable from the moment the Baby Metroid detaches from her, but you're not able to capitalize on that unless you pull off a glitch that lets you move after getting Hyper Beam'd yourself.
The fact that catching the Lord avalugg doesn't change his size and glows let me think they planned at some point that we could have caught the Lord pokemon and use them as normal pokemon or that a certains mechanic let us turns our pokemon into their glowing form temporarily or something
Lol, I’m sure quite a lot of people have done the Shadow Queen fight in TTYD one, since Danger Mario + power bounce is a well known build that can easily deal damage in the many hundreds.
Thank you for fulfilling my childhood dream of defeating those Shroobs at the beginning of Partners In Time, even if nothing changed in the end. That always frustrated me to no end when I was kid. Still a S+ tier game though.
@@chirrupted Not for me. You have like no room to move out of the way, his charging attack hits you even if just one pixel of it touches you, and it’s not helped by how you can only take like 3 hits and no options of healing yourself.
They just didn't care to make a special object for it Which makes sense, they just use the same code as all other pokemon but with a flag to prevent catching, the cheat helps to mess with that flag Otherwise they'd have to create an entire system for a single pokemon that does the exact same the existing code does
3:07 Oh my god ... I always wondered what would happen here. I tried to do it before by dodging things and letting the enemies beat themselves ... but it didn't work very well.
I know it's not a NIntendo game, but I always loved how there's a special ending if you manage to beat the boss during the tutorial of Devil May Cry 5.
I love how catching the avalugg makes it remain the same. Just a normal enormous glowing avalugg
Avalugg the almighty has blessed us with his presence
It makes me think lords might have been planned to be able to catch but it was scrapped for some reason
“Hey what have you caught?”
2 minutes later……
“Oh….”
@@Panman11 Maybe related to how you can't even get out from under Avalugg before the game decides you're too far away and recalls it? Something that size would require very different notions of what constitutes "nearby".
the size all avalugg should be... seriously, it just looks stupid how tiny the normal ones are
I love how rattata one shots every pokemon in the battle royale, then the game acts like you actually won, then treats rattata like absolute garbage
*Ratttata cry sound plays*
I gues youngster joey was onto something
@@Reiyoski I mean, it WAS in the top percentile.
It was fear rattata lol
Makes me want to beat he whole game with rattan just to spite it
Bowser saying “what? How?” Is exactly how we all feel after seeing the outcome of that
Roblox Toxic players be like:
To be fair, Midbus would troll Bowser like that. I was half expecting him to say "Weak....you had to cheat to win..." But I wonder if you could patiently level grind? I don't remember if Bowser fights enemies before that point. I know you can fight some Shrooboids before the Shroob battle.
I love how the boss fight music stays making the Bidoof look more menacing
Nah it's just you who are the Boss
That puny avalugg just got into the fight of its life
Bidoof: The real boss battle all along.
@@superwhatevergamin9634 Waiting for a Bidoof Lord named Peanut Butter
@@benn454 If that were to ever happen I don’t think it’d be fair to the protagonist to fight something that would just mangle their body to an unrecognizable level, or just turn them into a Bidoof
I like how if you catch it in pokemon its just like "ok now you can keep it." as if everything is normal.
Pretty much every game in the series has been like that when cheating to catch Pokémon you shouldn't have is involved. Stealing Pokémon in other games just ends the battle as if you defeated that trainer for example.
@@Superluigi881 do you have any idea how they did it on legends arceus? i'm trying to look for it online but it won't show up 😔
@@moisessantos8510 p sure that by now they patched that out
@@kitestar I mean, i would assume they would, seeing as you're obviously not supposed to have a Lord Pokémon. Although it's weird how it functions perfectly (besides the obvious) in a battle against something else.
@a random . very true. it's been like that for generations now.
Actually, Midbus shocked bowser so much by coming back from nothing that Bowser let him go just based on how good that magic was
The fact that Bowser says "What... how...", As if he's confused as to how he lost is just icing on the cake
@@Neppiko no he is confused on why he said he was the most weak
LOL
I think he was having Fawful magic.
I like how Fawful played into it perfectly. Midbus was wiped out and Fawful's like "Yeah...don't want that happening..."
Its interesting to see the tutorial Midbus and Shroob fight not get softlocked or have the game crash when beaten. I guess it's because the game knows the battle is over and it just resumes like usual. Almost as if planned...
@Niray f Nobody cares
It's kinda strange. I remember me trying out cheats in BiS a long time ago and actually having the midbus fight softlock. Perhaps it could be caused by killing him with the first counter punch. Or I might be confusing it with the tutorial bowser battle.
I guess it goes like a normal fight and the "loss" triggers once it's over
What likely happens is after the battle ends, the result of the battle isn't checked, and instead the same event always happens.
Normally, it would check the result and take you to different things depending on it.
@@TheFinalChapters That's only if the developers planned for a fight to be winnable, but not be a mandatory win. Or occasionally, it's a mandatory win but either that battle, or the entire game in some cases, doesn't have a game over trigger.
For example, in an SNES RPG called Estpolis Denki II, or Lufia II in the US or just Lufia in Europe, the first fight with the first of the main antagonists is possible to win with careful preparation, and if you do win the game rewards you before story takes over and he wipes your party out before leaving anyway, and the story continues like normal from there.
Meanwhile, in the game's prequel, the first encounter with that character has drastically inflated HP and Attack Power over even his endgame fight. He has over 60000 HP at a time where you're lucky to deal 10 per attack, and he deals between 580 and 650 damage with a single attack where you'll have 30 HP at most, it's clearly a battle never intended to be won. So, if you go into the code and adjust stats to make it a proper fight, as if the boss is playing with you a la Ghirahim, the result is still that after the fight the main character's defeated and things continue as normal with literally no change. Because an alternate outcome doesn't exist in the code.
For Mother Brain, it's actually possible to kill her DURING the scene where the baby Metroid is healing you by using the re-stand glitch, but it softlocks the game. The glitch is used for speedruns since it allows you to drop Mother Brains health low enough during that cutscene to where after getting the Hyper Beam, it only takes one or two shots to kill her and save quite a few seconds.
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it don't softlock the game if you drop her to 0 HP, you can't kill MB until the cutscene finish, even when she is at 0 HP, what can happen is when you shoot at the same time you get hyper beam the game lag terribly and its become super slow processing like 1 frame at a time, can remove this condition by holding item cancel, and MB has 3 phase, phase 1 has 3000 HP and can only die when the glass is fully broken which take 18 projectile (missiles or super missiles) second phase has 18000 HP and last phase has 36000 HP, its possible to make her at 0 HP but you will need to shot one last shot to kill her after the cutscene
@Tina Bulea huh!?
@@RediteTheGemBoy It's a bot, don't bother asking.
@@FrenchLightningJohn I have to do this since there is NO excuse to let this slide.
*It doesn't softlock the game if you drop her hp to zero, you cannot kill Mother Brain until the baby cutscene finishes, even when her health reaches zero. What does happen when you shoot on the same frame you get hyper beam is the game starts lagging terribly and processes very slowly (like 1 frame a second), but you can stop this by holding item cancel.
Mother brain has three phases
Phase 1 has 3000 health and can only be killed after breaking the glass (18 missiles or supers).
Phase 2 has 18,000 health and phase 3 has 36,000 health.
It is possible to drop her health to zero but you'll need to fire one last shot after the baby cutscene to end her.
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Rattata: Wins battle royal
Narrator: I'm going to pretend I didn't see that
@Niray f Yo what the fuck
@@motivationposterchomik4567 just a bot. Report it :|
You can tell Nintendo REALLY didn't expect you to win
@@Conbreen Who would expect that loser to win???
I bet not even the best Pokemon Rumble gamer ever managed to beat that Battle royale with Sh|ttata without using cheats!
@@robertwildschwein7207
True. He said in the previous version even if you dodge all attacks, your time would run out. So yeah, not happening without cheating
Ok I know it was a cheat, but I thought it was actually pretty cool how you can legit catch the Lord pokemon and use it in a battle with its actual size, color, and even move set. EVEN ITS ANIMATIONS ARE THERE LOL
This makes me think the lords are treated as a different form all together
that's more than ditto zacian using behemoth blade can say. That's a completely legal situation and the animation *still* doesn't work properly
Challenge:Collect a Lord Team for endgame.
@@Joltemon that is yet another reason to not like sword and shield. Honestly, love some of the pokemon designs like flapple, but then we have worse empoleon and the nuke button, and I don't think I need to keep kicking the horse but it's therapeutic at this point.
DLC confirmed?
The reason Lord Avalugg is fully complete is the same reason dark souls bosses are fully complete when they are hacked into being playable. They are built to use the same systems the player uses in battle for fairness. That's why the bosses in all souls games have a pattern of a wild flurry of attacks and backing off, they have their own Stamina meter and inventory to manage.
Did not know that. Neat.
Not really fairness, Risk of Rain 2 uses the same method and they explained it really well
If both player characters and enemies work with the same system, you essentially cut an entire part of the work from the equation since everything you make for the player now works for the enemies too
Both can share functions
A system like this has downsides since now changing enemies can also break the most complex characters: the player characters. And all the code that works with the player is now run with all the enemies too, adding more load.
Most tactical RPGs use this system too, like Tactics ogre or FFTactics, this is why there are cheats to control the enemy as if they where your units
In fact, i am making one and i also went for this system, just easier to manage
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Bowser: *two punches midbus*
Midbus: "You are weak, Most weak"
Everyone's response: "what how"
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@@yoshihell4160 Just report the bot and move on
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"Midbus! Now is the time for striking!"
*(Midbus is fucking dead)*
@@IvanFranco120 just dont respond to them at all. It makes more spam
27 years later and seeing the baby Metroid sacrifice itself still hurts me to this day
*t h e b a b y*
@@Eldoofus *B A B Y S T A N D O*
It does to everybody.
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@@xaturowlet7346 C moon
I love how in Pokemon Rumble the game is like "hey you won, go to the next stage" then kicks the Rattata out as if they were saying "nah bro you're trash, that didn't count"
That Rattata was tested for performance enhancing drugs and the test came out positive i guess.
Rattata is sooooooooo weak!!!
Lol
@@robertwildschwein7207 if u give Focus sash to a low level Rattata and have the moves endeavor and quick attack you can defeat Any strong enough pokemon (for example not a lv2 Pidgey but yes a lv100 arceus) if they do not have a priority attack like quick attack extreme speed shadow sneak or bullet punch. First let the enemy use Any strong move to get you to 1hp(you Will survive with Focus sash) and you use endeavor (that Will make the foe have also 1hp) and lastly you use the priority attack quick attack to end the foe before he does
@@adridoes_sillystuff Arceus does have Extreme Speed, though.
I remember getting so mad at the shadow queen. I actually got lucky with a freeze and managed to get her hp to zero before she could make a move, but then she just skipped to her next phase making me waste the items and fp that I used.
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@Alphrina shut
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@Alphrina S H U T .
That battle actually taught me how how to deal with frustration caused by a videogame for the first time in my life. When it wants, Nintendo can be savage
Oooh, I love when games actually integrate scenes for unintended things happening
Yeah, it reminds me of how there’s unique dialogue for yoshi in the chief chilly boss in Super Mario 64 ds even when you have to glitch yoshi into the boss.
I know
My favorite example of this is Devil May Cry 5, there's a couple of supposed to lose fights in a game but if you win them the game just goes "damn I didn't think you'd do that, you win I guess." And rolls credits.
It’s funny, because the game basically goes either:
1) “no u” and kills you right back anyway.
or
2) “oh yeah? be that way.” and the game kills itself.
I think the devs are kinda nice to make alternative code program to see what happens when doing something in the unintended way. 😅
Except DMC5 cus they actually made Urizen defeatabled with _pure skill_
Of course the ending is lackluster too cuz there's no character development and no MOTIVATION
@@rainedans8684 god but it's hard
Or it’s pokemon
@Box that knows your address “Oh cool, you beat that bosses ass! Watch this though!” *proceeds to just annihilate you back*
6:06 I love how well Bowser's incredulity also fits this scenario;
'Muh-huh-huh-huh! You may have beaten me, but because reasons, I am victorious anyway!'
'...WHAT? How does THAT work?'
'Like I told you, reasons! Because them!'
fun fact about SMRPG, apparently if your speed stat(?) is hacked high enough in the first bowser fight, you can target Toadstool with your attacks for some reason.
Really!? 😳
no way 💀💀💀
Based Mario
possibly because toadstool may be considered an "enemy", just one with no attacks and ungodly speed, so if you get even stupider speed, then you can attack her, but that's just a theory
a Gm thry
tansk fr redin
@@j.hawkins8779 why
*Avalugg, lord of the snow, 10x bigger than a normal avalugg, weighs a ton and glows bright yellow making it very menacing*
*Bidoof is keeping its guard up*
I wouldn't be aafraid of Pokemon with NO TEXTURES
@@robertwildschwein7207 Either TF2/MC Java missing texture or texture that is a Minecraft dirt block with “upd ate!” on it (which is Minecraft bedrock’s missing texture only used for blocks and probably items. For the rest, it uses the other type of missing texture.)
@@MCAlexisYT What?
Please explain more easily!
@@robertwildschwein7207 Which part is confusing for you?
@@MCAlexisYT Please explain your whole comment.
10:00 height: 6'7"
_yeah sure that checks out_
Also goddamn, pokemon rumble is so ruthless to Rattata for literally no reason
They've never dealt with a FEAR Rattata.
Ratata: i win
Arceus: no f u *smites him *
But his ratatta was in the top percentage of ratatta. I hope this joke isnt too old.
@@chrissy9997 Is that the new fandom nickname for Joey's Rattata? I ain't been keeping up with the times...
@@Mordecai02 Focus sash Endevour (quick) Attack Rattata. It gets taken down to one health, uses Endevour, uses quick attack to finish the job. It's a dumb memey cheese strategy.
There are of course other variations using things like toxic spikes, sandstorm/hail, and sturdy with other Pokemon, but Rattata is the original user of the concept.
Midbus didn't even die like a boss. He just got straight up obliterated.
Fawful didn’t even notice him dying because he was expecting some kind of fanfare
midbus is a he?
@@Bulptheblob yes he is
@@Friendlybot9000 huh. neat
@@Bulptheblob Damn did you really always think he was a she just because he was pink? Just assuming, but if so, damn 🤣
Ironically, the Midbus scene STILL makes sense after bowser won, because bowser has no idea how Midbus came back. Also, the Metroid one does make sense because it's not just about getting the hyper beam from Mother brain, it's taking the same ability FROM mother brain.
I love how Bowser has the perfect reaction to Midbus just respawning
1:01 Rare footage of our two Italian plumbers getting tired and falling asleep during the shroomie mating dance
Rare footage of me existing way before my release date
Seeing mario and luigi partners in time as the very first one makes insanely nostalgic, so much that I’m actually on the edge of crying. It was such a fantastic game
idk why but i find it more lacking than the other games
Bowser's inside story was ok, Superstar was the best one imo
"Midbus! Now is the time for striking!"
**Midbus is folded into the stock family guy death pose**
10:15 when you do this glitch, not only do you get a super good Pokémon, you also get some cool music
that could probably be fixed by blacking out, granted you could lose items, or maybe not. if it still considers you to be in the battle, it might bring up the "reset, keep progress, or admit defeat" box. press admit defeat and you would keep the pokemon AND get rid of the timer and music, all without losing ANY items!!!
Edit: Of course, if you werent on the rematch like they were, you would not be able to progress through the story without attempting the battle for real. but you would have your own noble to power through the others. And **SPOILERS** this would also make the postgame fight against Volo much easier.
@@nullanix I’ve never played this Pokémon game, the hit yellow dude just looked cool and the music was cool
@@colt9758 this is the comment of the other side of the Pokémon Fandom that's rarely voiced, and I have to say I agree.
5:48 Fawful you have to let him go, the accident was 5 years ago
I love how Mario & Bowser just walk across the air to hit each other on the opposing chandeliers
For Mother Brain, you can actually continue doing damage until it has 0/1 health left, but until the Metroid dies you can’t kill MB. That said, it should be relatively simple to mod the logic to allow MB to be defeated. The Super Metroid hacking/speedrunning community should have some ideas.
Bowser: *kills Midbus in one punch*
Midbus: I knew you were weak.
Bowser: What..? How..?
I seriously expected him to dead8ss say, "you used cheats...." like the devs knew it was literally impossible to win this fight legit.
Bowser: Anhilates Midbus with one punch
Midbus: (6:09) “You are weak, most weak.”
BRO WHAT
yknow everyone has lives, dude just respawned outside of battle
It’ probably because the game loads up the win screen cuz uhh you obviously won, then it loads the loss cutscene after it because it’s supposed to
I love most of the Mario RPG games, but Partners in Time is my favorite. The fact that they added 2 more buttons to worry about during combat made things way more dynamic and challenging.
4:13 idk why but the music cut off made this perfect. The cut off sounded like this was what Rattata thought happened but nope! Reality was that he was knocked out and dreaming this entire time.
Perfect description
Player: (cheats to beat undefeatable Mario fights)
Game: (still progresses as normal)
Nintendo: Now listen here you little s**t....
OK...
At least it doesn't crash...
@@Superluigi881 Yeah...😅
Mostly…
“Midbus now is the time for striking” also midbus *vaporized*
_"...Midbus?"_
_(beat)_
_"GAH! NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR SNOOZE!"_
...one of you can probably write a better line than that.
Also also Midbus: haha I defeated you
That Pokémon Arceus one was just hilarious 😂
Yes, its very HUGE! 😳😂
@@IvanFranco120 it was only 6'7ft
@@accintus_est_potentia lol
@@accintus_est_potentia Oh... 😅
6:15 bowser is appropriately confused
5:55
Midbus! Now is the time for striking!
_Looks around_
Midbus?
Mario andnLuigi: *defeat both shroobs*
Also them: *immediately fall unconscious*
Only logical thing to do
They just used so much energy that they just went into coma immediately
I love how you explain what's supposed to happen, I haven't played a lot of these games so the explanations help a lot!
10:29 Damn, what happens if you try to trade that thing? That's cool as fuck.
Idk…
It’s sad you can’t really trade in legends arceus
Midbus is such a chad that bowser can’t kill him
Also thank you for showing partners in time as part of this video it’s underrated
Yes. 😅
Shroobs normally: im too weak
Tutorial Shroobs: *Infinite Power!*
3:21 This is Rattata using 0.00000001% of his power.
Worship Rattata
Catch noble Avalugg and use it in battle: Game works perfectly fine.
Walk a tumble weed wrong in 76:
*Game crashes and starts a fire.*
You don't understand, the tumble weed is far too powerful
10:44 Casual mode gaming be like
Hey! I remember using an infinite HP cheat I got softlocked in Partners In Time, I got hit by the big plasma ball and killed the Shroobs finishing the fight but not showing the cut scene making me stuck in there unable to do anything since I couldn't re trigger the figth
Midbus: “Muh Muh you’re weak, much weak.”
Ok either Midbus didn’t use his full power on Bowser and went easy on him
or He can’t die.
Even the final fight with him after Fawful gives him ice powers he doesn’t die just trapped within ice.
Midbus the Undying, hm?
Midbus used his own infinite HP cheat.
The shadow queen one is somewhat reasonable in real play if you’ve got someone running the danger Mario setup, even if that many power rushes would be absolutely overkill.
For some of the battles that kill you especially midbus i wonder what would happen if you were to survive the killing blow
Soft lock, or it just plays the cutscene that would happen normally
Generally it doesn't matter. The gamecode of many games is basicly IF win THEN do x ELSE do y. But you can also ignore those and just add stuff afterward, making the battle result irrelevant, and that's what results in the cases of this video.
But sometimes it can result in, well, softlocks because particularly bad programming only has a "IF lost THEN" condition and the game doesn't know what to do as nothing is defined otherwise.
Probably would just continue the fight until you lose
"Your weak, to weak."
"What? How? I literally killed you back there!"
“Sense is for the weak” -Midbus
@@jjthefbsoldaccount that's canon
It becomes especially cool if the developers program something in for these "unintended" cases.
And it seems like at least with Arceus they planned for that, since why else would there be a menu entry and icon for the Lords?
Also slightly unrelated:
Or Demon's Souls: You're not supposed to kill the tutorial boss, but when you manage to do, you even get "rewarded" with a special scenario. Love stuff like that :D
There is 1 in Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn on Wii, there is this 1 mission where you must protect the Main character with the Black Knight, totally unbeatable by every single enemy on that map (takes no damage from everyone, and 1-rounds them), and if you do some sort of cheat and get him killed, there actually is a unique dialogue of BK saying sorry and the main char regarding how it was impossible for him to have been defeated by these weaklings xd.
The avalug makes me think
If theres ever a glitch discovered that could do that...
That,ll be awesome
7:00 it looks more like there's no death state for Bowser, so he reaches 0 HP and that's it
4:26 How DARE you insult Joeys Rattata like that.
Plot twist: Bowser is surprised at Midbus reappearing out of nowhere after being punched into oblivion.
I love how Bowser were confused of how he lost while winning
“Midbus! Now is the time for striking”
Midbus: “Unfortunately it appears that I am dead”
*Bowser caves Midbus's face in*
Midbus: You are weak. Most weak.
Me: ARE YOU A ZOMBIE COME BACK FROM THE FRIGGIN GRAVE
“In this form, your attacks are like those of a child to me..”
-Famous last words
I wonder how Lord Lilligant Will React When They Try To Target A Player Who Teleported Outside The Battle Zone
The legends clip is really interesting for so many reasons, like how the theme doesn't build up when fighting the wild pokemon, or how the game treats the boss fight pokemon like any other pokemon and not only that but even gives them moves which under normal play wouldn't even ever be seen.
I'm surprized you can actually catch them in this manner since normally enraged pokemon can't be caught outside of battle regardless.
@@sinteleon I mean you can stun them to catch them while they are enraged but that obviously isn't what happened
It was cheated
It probably has to do with them being coded similiar to other Pokemon, just normally you'd be restricted from catching them, but due to the cheats used you bypass that restriction.
There are a few other games that also do a similiar thing where the Bosses or Enemies are following the same rules as the player, thus have coded-in things that you'd normally never get to see without Cheats/Hacks.
An MMO i played has a Modificatin which actually allowed you to open and look at the Inventory of enemies and they actually just spawned the same Ogre in, but depending on what weapon the RNG gave them, they'd have higher or lower Attack.
These are actually pretty interesting.
Why do I keep finding you?
The Shroobs: good job everyone roll out that mission accomplished banner!
Mario and Luigi wait a minute we defeated you guys
True we don't know how did logic works can we just continue on with the story please
Mario and Luigi fine we'll play along
When i played Partners in time, i always used to reset my game because i thought you had to kill them
Thank you for showing the bowers inside story clip I totally forgot I didn’t beat it and I will replay it
Mario and luigi: wins
The game: no you didn't
The game acts as usual, even if you defeated, because they are hard coded to do that, even if you win in the unintended way.
Bowser's just as confused as we are.
I love how the music is still playing after you caught Avalugg
My headcanon for the Shroob battle is that the Shroob UFO blasts you during the victory screen while you're celebrating (they're bad guys, after all, they don't play fair) and three new Shroobs come in to take their place. And for the first Midbus battle, Midbus runs away after Bowser beats him, then comes back to taunt him for being "weak", Bowser's merely confused by all this.
That Catch Frenzied Nobles cheat is incredible!
I appreciate you covering pokemon rumble blast, theres not much content for it and honestly I forgot the game existed, nice to be reminded of it haha
4:20 because the names are in capital letters, it looks like the game is mocking rattata for losing
I was hyped when I saw midbus there, brings back memories
Lord Avalugg disappearing and reappearing spontaneously in all the size is weird
Man, Bowser's Inside Story is the best game in the saga.
Those were great times 😢👍🏼
3:08
God, I miss this game
Same here, I still have the cartridges of the first 2 Rumble and a demo of the third one, but since my 3dsXL's upper screen has a few cracks that make most of the screen black, most games are near unplayable
same😢
Fun fact: Mother Brain is vulnerable from the moment the Baby Metroid detaches from her, but you're not able to capitalize on that unless you pull off a glitch that lets you move after getting Hyper Beam'd yourself.
More games really should include "what-if" scenarios for when you win.
"Midbus! Now is the time for striking" Midbus had already been sent to the shadow realm like 2 or 3 'a' presses ago
The fact that catching the Lord avalugg doesn't change his size and glows let me think they planned at some point that we could have caught the Lord pokemon and use them as normal pokemon or that a certains mechanic let us turns our pokemon into their glowing form temporarily or something
I REMEMBER POKEMON RUMBLE BUT I LOST THE GAME AND IM JUST NOW REMEMBERING THAT.
Lol, I’m sure quite a lot of people have done the Shadow Queen fight in TTYD one, since Danger Mario + power bounce is a well known build that can easily deal damage in the many hundreds.
Thank you for fulfilling my childhood dream of defeating those Shroobs at the beginning of Partners In Time, even if nothing changed in the end. That always frustrated me to no end when I was kid. Still a S+ tier game though.
Trust me, the Arcanine boss practically FEELS invincible with how near-impossible he is to beat.
he's easy though
@@chirrupted Not for me. You have like no room to move out of the way, his charging attack hits you even if just one pixel of it touches you, and it’s not helped by how you can only take like 3 hits and no options of healing yourself.
electrode was the worst in my opinion
@@brenduck That's the one I'm facing next. Now I'm kinda nervous.
hardly any openings to throw balms, and idk if it's just me or my controller or the game, but i feel like i can't sprint in any of the noble fights
Bowser: Why won’t you die?
Midbus: Nano-machines son
Midbus: *dies*
Also Midbus: well yes but actually no
My death was...greatly exaggerated
I like how besting midbus completely re contextualises the dialog they have after
Wow this guy is answering impossible question that i cant even do it,+1 sub for you to make more.
This is honestly one of my most favorite chant on TH-cam, as I am obsessed with Nintendo games, thanks for some good vids.
I like how the programmers even made that the Pokémon lord is useable like they knew some random madlad would try to catch it
They just didn't care to make a special object for it
Which makes sense, they just use the same code as all other pokemon but with a flag to prevent catching, the cheat helps to mess with that flag
Otherwise they'd have to create an entire system for a single pokemon that does the exact same the existing code does
Bro the image of bowser in Super Mario RPG-7 Looks so goofy💀💀💀💀
Midbus got slapped around so much he got Alzheimers
Bro got CTE from that blow
Catching the Avalugg is so crazy. Maintaining size and form. So interesting!
3:07 Oh my god ... I always wondered what would happen here.
I tried to do it before by dodging things and letting the enemies beat themselves ... but it didn't work very well.
I know it's not a NIntendo game, but I always loved how there's a special ending if you manage to beat the boss during the tutorial of Devil May Cry 5.
Bowser: *Kills Mibus in one punch
still loses
Bowser: "But how..."
You and me both pal...
6:12 "What... How... Like, I literally killed you..?"