After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should not have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people dont get married and dont get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery totalitarians and these control/money/job trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery.
Hi Josh, there hasn't been a lockdown here in NZ for a long time like probably a year. It was normal here pre covid. The lockdown was totally unexpected, the PM said within 7-8 hours there's going to have a lockdown, it was already 5pm when she announced it, every office jobs here in NZ finish their work at 4-5pm, it's very relaxing to work here. And we have many benefits. The government is pro workers. The company probably was working on some very important project and they were caught off guard and the bed decision was out of necessity. It was totally unexpected as even before there was a lockdown, it wasn't in their area which is the south of NZ where they never had any lockdown before. I totally feel the frustration of the company as I myself and everyone else probably went to the office to get my laptop after the PM announcement.
I’m giving my two weeks notice in a half hour. Thanks to your video on changing jobs to get a decent raise, I’m now getting a $20,000 raise, 401k with match, better health insurance and next to free dental and vision insurance, guaranteed to be remote forever even after COVID, three weeks of vacation, more time off and excellent growth opportunities for doing almost the exact same thing with my current role. Thanks Josh for opening eyes and giving me that perspective to make 30 percent more! 🙌
People always act like single people shouldn't have a life. The people with "families" stayed home. Yeah just sacrifice the singles, they aren't important.....
@@botbeamer even if these people are orphan and loners. it shouldn't matter, these people have some life and it is just as valuable to them as any other person with family.
everyone have right to live as they want and all have equal right to life irrespective of any social ,financial status except very very ruthless criminals
I stayed overnight in the office once, to deliver a big chunk of code to a client before some arbitrary deadline. Took me until 3am, there was some cot somewhere so I fell asleep there instead of risking a drive home after a stupid long day (18h). I really was proud of what I achieved, because it actually worked, had a bunch of optimizations and it was something I was happy to have my name attached to. Come the next day, no word from client. 2 days, nothing, 3 days.. nothing. Took 'em 5 days to acknowledge it. Their fucking deadline. So that was a great achievement and even greater letdown. So I learned to not give a fuck about client deadlines. Because 9 out of 10 times they're just some arbitrary date that gets moved anyway.
Yea, you're so right. I really doubt they got anything but their regular pay. They should have gotten overtime, food delivered for every meal and a bonus for "saving the business". They are clearly a crap employer, imagine what else goes on.
Agree. I may be young, and thus did not need this channel to tell me the reality of modern work culture, I never saw anything different when I started working. This channel DID make me realize that some people do still run their business the old school way, and what to look for to identify one. So I went and found an entirely remote position working for an old-school trust-based employer. Ten grand raise, got to salary, less hours, no commute, no on call for a week straight BS, same benefits, way better holidays (mandatory day off for the Super Bowl even), and double the PTO w rollover. In my previous job, going above and beyond was a waste of effort. Now, my employer actually notices and rewards it. Do not give when you won't get back. I love my new job. My work life balance is better than ever. I feel like I'm on permanent vacation, and being that it's remote I got a doggo to keep my cat company. If you are thinking about finding a new job, DO IT.
They probably put everyone in a room and said "Hey, we need 3 people to stay in the office during the lock down... Any volunteers?" and it was super quiet and awkward until people started looking at the guys who don't have 'family' and they felt guilted into raising their hands.
And that my friend is why I lie and say how can I support a family on this salary. Been in that situation being single. Co workers I have to go pick up the kids. Can you stay and finish this up?
Depends on the money. I interviewed a tech once, said he couldn't work weekends because of his religion. I said "too bad, it pays double time and a half", he changed his mind, seems like we all have price.
Some employees have too sleep at the "office", they're called truck drivers. But seriously my brother owns a small trucking company with a few drivers that operates in the northwest (MT, ID, WA, OR & ND). He plans their routes so they can be home once maybe twice during the week for a quick stop or stay the night and leave early morning. Home every weekend. He's does his best to make sure his drivers don't have to sleeping their trucks all the time & he keeps his customers happy. Now that's a f#¢king good boss.
@@STScott-qo4pw some of us are kinda born to do it. I would have loved the job, working a couple weeks straight if we got to catch back up on the days and hours off the 40 hour a week people get. Usually you only accrue 1 day off a week, and you have to fight to get it. This also doesn't include the fact that normal people get a work week around 40 hours and get paid all those hours... We definitely don't. So yeah trucking should and used to be a wonderful job... Then it got "de regulated" and the Teamsters Union lost all its clout.
Oh man they really cherish their slaves... eh employees. Giving them socks when they are there one week. Now seriously if I was staying there for few days and got a fucking sock instead of big fat paycheck. I would start screaming: "Master has given Dobby a sock, Dobby is free." I would run out of the front door and never return.
When you read the part about the employees having consoles and heating it literally sounded like they're talking about their exotic animals they keep in captivity for their own entertainment.
Next: Tech companies create a built in hospital/dental office, housing, and grocery store on campus! you go if you feel sick, give birth, need a check up. You'll never have to leave work ever!
After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should not have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people dont get married and dont get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery totalitarianism as these control/money/job/constant additional laws trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery.
I've come to the dark realization that some people just want to be controlled, they don't have any inner purpose and desire to be given one. You can't change them. These are the ideal employees. You can make videos mocking them and their bosses but they would be unhappy with more autonomy.
It’s easy to say that when you don’t have bills or a family to take care of or are peer pressured because if you don’t then the fear of retaliation in the future. People want to be well liked by others especially those in authority.
ahhhhhh👏❤️🥇❤️👏...the classic political economy debate.....do humans need "royalty"?......or even "freedom"?.....are we pack, herd, or sheeple, or lone wolfs
I came for the software engineering content, stayed for the content I didn't ask for, and am thrilled to see the anti late-stage capitalist/anti corporate videos coming out. Keep up the good work!
He brags about making staff into slaves basically. There was no mention of gifts, bonuses or promotions about sleeping at work, so... it was for nothing but a PR stunt?
Magna Carta is something he needs to familiarize himself with--we're pretty much at the same point as they were in the 13th century when the Black Death wiped out all the peasants and the feudal lords had no one to do the work.. and the workers who did survive it charged more for their work. This is happening all over again and workers must embrace being in the driver's seat right now. They literally cannot make dime without having workers and they need to be reminded of that.
I worked at a place that had showers. It was so that the guys who cycled to work could freshen up and change clothes before they started in the morning.
Good to see New Zealand on here 😊. There's people trying to force their employees to work during our lockdown here. My Brother's workplace tried and my Mother's workplace was open when they shouldn't have been. I don't mind going above and beyond, it just depends on how the employer treats me. I just hope these guys are getting rewarded. This would probably be classed as non-essential work, so they might get shutdown too.
@@GirtonOramsay - It'll never work in construction, since the Pacific Trades' Modus Operandi is to have 2 people on Smoke break whilst one person does the work.
Using the CEO's logic, all they have done is steal the contract from some other company that doesn't need to force it's team to sleep in the office. How long are they going to force them to do this. Is this the new normal workday for them? Once they stop, the competition will take their lunch (and maybe their employees too).
This is a nice snap-shot into the future of office spaces. The only way these buildings will be filled is if they are transformed in hybrid-apartments. Employees already can't afford rent, this is the logical next step in my opinion.
yup. And of course the sleep-at-work employees will be docked rent and board from their salaries to pay for the room, heating, and bathroom facilities. And eating in the company restaurant they'll pay the company for their food as well. Hmm, why pay them at all if you provide all they need to live anyway?
@@kolacao8134 I did close to 30 years of work from Sierra early days to Sony to Microsoft to over a dozen independents to slot machines. AAA titles were very stressful and yes for two Sony playstation titles I had to sleep in my office. Granted in the early days we had the dreaded xmas deadline cause companies had to prebuy space on walmart shelves. That's not an issue anymore. Unless its to coincide with a new platform release there is no need for arbitrary ship dates.
@@asadb1990 I have shipped titles under my belt. But alas as you get older they discard you. The industry does not want 50 plus people with decades of XP for some reason. No I do not have millions of dollars. I tell young people all the time that if they can, do something else like welder, plumber, bull dozer operator, Find what's in high demand and you live like kings. The game industry is flooded with labor willing to work ungodly hours.
When you work this hard as an employee you only help the owner/executives at your expense. I killed myself with 70 hour weeks just to be dumped after being injured on the job. Only time that time is worth while is if you own part of the business.
I remember a decade ago studying Japanese culture, I watched videos of animators and game developers who were documented sleeping in their offices almost like they were examples to strive to. While Japan have amazing work ethic, corporate businesses abuse those principles even to this day. A TH-camr named Tomo Japan explains the gist of it in his last video. This greatly extends to China and South Korea and while it explains why they're at the top of the economy, at what cost? The well being of the employees that also factors in passing out on streets due to over-exhaustion and high suicide rates?
The Japanese businesses I've been fortunate enough to see in person have been hugely inefficient. In one case, employing 3 times as many staff as my current company in the accounts department to process the same volume of work. Car parks seem to hire people to wave you in, as if you need direction to enter. I'm not sure they are the model to follow.
Hard work does not equates to results. Working smart does, working in a sustainable way does. What really grind my gears with those companies is that they aren't only imoral n greedy, they are dumb, no problem being greedy but can u really not think long term n how much more success/profits u would get overtime if all your workers actually like the company/work their best cause they are well rested, etc? It is like seeling seeds for 50$ when u could plant a tree n seel fruits non stop for triple the price each in a few years. Most japanese n Chinese companies i heard about are getting through by pure numbers game n bashing their head through problems while burning people like disposable resources. If those countries actually strived for productivity n results, sheesh, coupled with their numbers we would be dominated by them pretty quickly. But not gonna happen i guess.
Keep up the good work Josh. Thank you for bringing to light all this corporate BS. I used to work for a multi national corporation and would see a lot of the same type of behavior and that's what persuaded me to start my own firm. Speaking as a business owner, this type of corporate nonsense makes the rest of us look bad.
6:00 Yep and I think they'll pay themselves with company equity, I remember a decade or two ago it was common to see CEO's with $1 salaries and they'd pay themselves with millions' of dollars worth of their company stock.
The employees who do this RARELY receive anything substantial as a "Thank-you". I have been suckered into this several times and I have never received anything in return that made a blip on my radar. I had a coworker say at the beginning of the pandemic that single people should be the ones to come in to work, and not the ones with children, because "we are all in different stages of our life". This was a very bigoted statement and assumes 1. everyone follows a template in their life of having kids and 2. a single person's home life is less important that a married person's home life. My pets and my fishing are more important to me and are equivalent to their kids.
I do this (sleep at work) because I work in hospitality and sometimes I have a 3pm to 11pm shift and the next day they expect me to start at 7am which is illegal in the UK but they get away with it. So I end up sleeping at work 😕 can’t wait to leave this shit profession working my backside off for minimum wage ..
Sir Ian Taylor is a perfect example of a hypocrite - I bet he would never even remotely consider living out of the office himself for his client's sake, but luckily for him he has a team of dedicated office drones who will oblige him no matter how outrageous his requests are.
I blame the school system for making us believe the only way to have a sense of purpose is to have a job work hard to death these ceos would make anybody depressed by the way they brag having your relatives visit you at work as you live there is not something to be happy about
YOU ADJUSTED YOUR MIC. Pro tip, you can still have it horizontal under your chin and it works great. For real though you can hear the proximity effect so much better!
@@JoshuaFluke1 It's working my guy. I have the same problem of being 30 and sounding 14 and a nice side-address mic with good proximity effect sounds GOAT.
Basically Victorian era England. Where tycoons and magnates basically owned small mining towns and their workers were trapped in a cycle of debt to the company.
Honestly if the service is really needed, set up a global team where people work normal business hours in their region. They might realize they aren't important after all.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Bragging about the employees that slept in the workplace while they went home. I now see who he was referring to when talking about the sacrifice that let the other employees be with their families.
I see both sides. If this was voluntary more power to them. Some people love their job and don't mind making it a bigger part of their life. It should never be expected, though. The real monster is all the others replying they wish their employees did it. That's entirely for selfish reasons.
I remember when we used to do overtime, our CEO walked on us at 10pm (we lived altogether). He checked what we're doing, ordered us food then when we're eating told us that that will be the last time he'll see us do overtime unless there's a life and death situation (field accidents, for example). We lived in that office as it was free. It's actually a house converted into an office. The CEO lives there, too. But after office hours and weekends, he let us do what we want to do. Never disturbed us unless he cooked and wanted to share some food.
Yeah that contract clause is called 'force majeure'. Any smart company has this in their contract because some things are well outside the control of either party in the contract. The purchasing heads at the other companies would have secondary service providers already on contract. Shitty companies with shitty strategies helped make the global supply chain way worse than it ever needed to be.
That founder is more concerned about the company is paying his bills rather than that of the employees. I remember around 25 years ago when the director asking who will "volunteer" to stay the weekend to make sure the reports are generated and also printed for distribution. The reporting services had this innate ability to crash due to the number of pages it need to cache before printing (yup, this was a time when people wanted paper on desks for meetings). Needless to say, no one volunteered. We then got an email to nominate someone, and the person with the most votes wins a weekend in the office. So we all voted for ourselves so there isn't a loser. The next step was us being taken in the room and threatened with losing our jobs if someone doesn't stay in. This went on for a week before HR got involved letting them know what they do is classified as bullying. They finally offered a bonus to "do our job" after hours. This dipshit of a director then still got annoyed when we don't invite him to Friday night pub crawls.
That's funny - great story! Yeah, like they were going to fire everybody. Shows the great power that workers have if they actually work together. There needs to be more of these "unofficial unions" in the corporate workplace, or the workers are screwed.
Lmao this was me… I slept at my mortgage office when there were snow storms forecasted so I could answer the phones. Terrible for mental and physical health. Take care of yourselves first kids
The place I used to work had a running joke that "we just need cots under our desks to get the work done". Overtime and staying late was the norm for my department. This video makes my stomach turn.....This is not okay.
So, I actually know nothing about computers. Beyond getting online. I would like to eventually get educated in that area. The reasons why I have to wait are a story for another day. I have been here since the stuff went south with your family. I know much more about your personal life, than I know about computers. I stay for these posts. Because you are taking the action that I have been saying for years, needed to happen. I'm so excited to see the younger generation not falling for the brainwashing that has cost us decades of progress. I could never be just another cog in the machine. It's disgusting how people don't value you themselves enough to demand A DECENT WAGE. I believe that are the light we need at this time. Thank you for following your passion, Josh. This 53 year old, woman, admires what you are doing. And, how you are going out it. 💚❤🤍🧡💜🖤💛💙
My workplace has two actual apartments above it that employees are free to use if they have to work the evening shift, then the morning shift. The workplaces shifts are 7 am to 3 pm, then 3 pm to 11 pm. Closed from 11 pm to 7 am. This only happens when you need to work one or the other as overtime due to people calling in sick or something. They pay us overtime to cover those shifts. 50 dollars an hour base pay and 100 dollars an hour on the overtime.
I love this channel. This video is so ironic for me. I quit my job as a Senior Software Engineer to play golf on the PGA Tour Latino America. I played college golf and when I graduated I got a job as a Software Engineer. After 6 years in this toxic industry, I started practicing with a few of my old friends that now play on the PGA Tour Latino America and Korn Ferry Tour and that motivated me to get back into following my dreams (and making money). No more pull requests! I just want to play well next year
My employees, I love em. When I say jump they say how high, when I say shit they say what color. They will nob clean all day long, and ask to do more, they really seem to want to please me..They are happy with ataboys, never bring up dirty money. They work because they are workers driven by natural instinct to please their employer. I'm even offered their daughters before their wedding too. Just like a big family I rule. Just Love em all. How about you, your plebes totally committed to making your life great too. If not find others, who relies their place and are happy with it and treat you as you are entitled to be treated as an elite...
I already know what Josh is gonna say(probably). Such a Basic argument yet so true. Why bring the bed to the office when you can just bring the PC from the Office or your own PC and work at home. Plus you can take a shower and eat breakfeast, cringe things to do if you just wake up in the Office.
So... these 3 men were guilted into saving the company by sleeping at the office. They saved the company contract and were praised? Were they compensated financially for saving the company? "Family," doesn't get fired. Family takes care of you when you are sick, watches your kids for you when you need a break, walks you down the isle on your wedding day. Substitute the word family for slaves and you get the real picture. I hope a better company with more benefits poaches those workers and treats them right.
Good. I'll eat my free dinner, get my free pump, and do shit on my phone in the office instead of at home. They'll only get 8 hours of labor out of me.
@@darkdudironaji they will just set it up to make you look bad. Meanwhile you increasingly have to work harder to fit everything in 8 hrs and even work through lunch...they try to burn you out. They may not directly fire you, especially if its obvious ur a good worker that just has stuff stacked on u but they will make u want to leave and offer you some $ to resign or ride it out to the end of the pip and then can u....ughhh these companies are bullshit
Of course it'd be animators volunteering. Maybe we should give a shout out to everyone else that wasn't management that didn't raise their hands. Those will be the ones who ultimately change things in their (and everybody else's) favor by saying "No" with their actions. And of course it'd be management that couldn't shepherd their business through the contract phase properly, letting their desperation and irresponsibility trickle down to the people on the floor that do the actual service.
Joshua, you are the revolution in the industry. Awesome, man! This culture is made so common that every other person is following the BS as sheeps. You on the other hand is making "speak for yourselves" a common thing. You are the Someone who knocks on these corporate people every time they get too self-centered.
I freaking love you, Josh! You're saying it like it is. Thses companies have gone crazy and think of employees like slaves. They still think we live in the 50's. Nowadays, most jobs don't even need to have an office. It can all be done from home.
Alexander the Great dressed like his soldiers and spent time with them, and was often found walking through the camp, stopping to talk and listen to groups of men. This outward appearance of love and concern, allied with his courage and determination, evoked great affection from his soldiers. Did this CEO share the same bunks and sleeping quarters?
Thanks for sticking up for the single folks! I'm single and before leaving corporate work I found that I was asked to do more and sacrifice more usially with the excuse of "well they have a family".
Met my old colleagues today. Told the partners that if they're insisting people come to office, if they get ill they should be paid in full and not statutory sick pay (UK), which is a pittance.
I noticed how no one mentions that the three who decided to sleep at the office should get raises. Very telling. As a business owner, I am of the belief that if my staff is helping to keep me in business, I will definitely take care of them through compensation and bonuses
I worked for a company that had an employee appartment building in one of their larger offices so not only do you live at work but your employer is your landlord.
So I'm military, and while my work tried to build a WFH system (we had very weird and specific requirements they had to get around), leadership didn't know how bad COVID would get (this was like FEB2020). We actually had a "local deployment" plan created to convert our building into a pseudo-dorm and office. For about 3 weeks a handful of us were on lockdown at our homes so we didn't get COVID prior to "going in". Luckily it never came to that and we worked remote most of 2020. It was a wierd experience
Me thinks the focus could go more on what sort of management allows the company to get in a position where a 72-hour shift is needed in the first place. There's absolutely no chance that skimping on hiring adequate/qualified/well-paid folks had anything to do with it... 👀
The mental gymnastics on the means to end on why treating humans as animals is great speaks volumes. They simply have an automatic foot feed in the mouth with every explanation indicating their incompetence with contracts and managing human beings.
I mean coming from the army being an airborne infantryman 3 days ain’t shit. However, in a normal job I best be compensated and promoted for that shit. I left the military for a reason. Lol
"Volunteer" More like slumber party at the office. Basically chilled at the office to apply lower thirds and update positioning data. Most likely inebriated while doing it...cause I would be and have been.
For these specific guys, working in the entertainment industry with possibly low pressure tasks that just need to be done at a specific late hour, this is fine. But then you have the issue of other CEOs getting ideas for workers who dont have those conditions. Better idea would be to give them extra vacation or pay quietly and only allow that to be known within the company for praise if needed.
I have been jokingly talking about putting a cot or murphy bed in my office, but I wouldn't actually do it. I have done overnighters and long stretches, but I don't believe I have ever actually slept at work. Given the choice, I'd rather work overtime at home, so I could be comfortable. Even the South Park studios people managed to let their people work from home over the last year... they sent them high end workstations to use.
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CEO's taking notes -
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After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should not have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people dont get married and dont get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery totalitarians and these control/money/job trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery.
Hi Josh, there hasn't been a lockdown here in NZ for a long time like probably a year. It was normal here pre covid. The lockdown was totally unexpected, the PM said within 7-8 hours there's going to have a lockdown, it was already 5pm when she announced it, every office jobs here in NZ finish their work at 4-5pm, it's very relaxing to work here. And we have many benefits. The government is pro workers. The company probably was working on some very important project and they were caught off guard and the bed decision was out of necessity. It was totally unexpected as even before there was a lockdown, it wasn't in their area which is the south of NZ where they never had any lockdown before. I totally feel the frustration of the company as I myself and everyone else probably went to the office to get my laptop after the PM announcement.
If they want robots, get bloody robots.
Hello Joshua Fluke.
Wow, 🤩 great content as always, thanks for sharing it!🙏🏻
I just loved it💜!
@@mitjed If the government allows companies to get away with these kinds of things, then don't tell us that it's "pro workers"!
I’m giving my two weeks notice in a half hour. Thanks to your video on changing jobs to get a decent raise, I’m now getting a $20,000 raise, 401k with match, better health insurance and next to free dental and vision insurance, guaranteed to be remote forever even after COVID, three weeks of vacation, more time off and excellent growth opportunities for doing almost the exact same thing with my current role. Thanks Josh for opening eyes and giving me that perspective to make 30 percent more! 🙌
Right on man. Congratulations 🎊
@@JoshuaFluke1 thank you. I’m excited.
Good stuff! Wish you all the best in your new job!
May I ask what you do for a living?
@@Chronomatrix corporate recruiting for medical equipment sales representatives.
People always act like single people shouldn't have a life. The people with "families" stayed home. Yeah just sacrifice the singles, they aren't important.....
Yeah, also they said singles don't have families or responsibilities, total nonsense, what about their parents, brothers, etc
@@botbeamer even if these people are orphan and loners. it shouldn't matter, these people have some life and it is just as valuable to them as any other person with family.
@@asadb1990 You're right
Then they have the nerve to complain about young people not getting married and having kids. That requires free time.
everyone have right to live as they want and all have equal right to life irrespective of any social ,financial status except very very ruthless criminals
If something is urgent enough for me to have to sleep at work then I better be getting paid for every hour i'm in the office sleeping or not.
Triple overtime man.
Absolutely, I better be getting paid double time and a half for that shit
"Nah, you volunteered."
If I'm going to sleep at work, I might as well live there and pay zero on rent.
Totally ridiculous. If they believe they are a “real family" why didn’t the ceo take his bed over there.
He slept in his private jet 🤦♂️
The ceo should take his bed over there and go **** himself
Because the slave driver doesn't sleep in the stable with his slaves
Exactly
I stayed overnight in the office once, to deliver a big chunk of code to a client before some arbitrary deadline. Took me until 3am, there was some cot somewhere so I fell asleep there instead of risking a drive home after a stupid long day (18h). I really was proud of what I achieved, because it actually worked, had a bunch of optimizations and it was something I was happy to have my name attached to.
Come the next day, no word from client. 2 days, nothing, 3 days.. nothing. Took 'em 5 days to acknowledge it. Their fucking deadline. So that was a great achievement and even greater letdown. So I learned to not give a fuck about client deadlines. Because 9 out of 10 times they're just some arbitrary date that gets moved anyway.
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In IT deadlines are almost always bullshit. Whenever someone comes to you with a "deadline", ask them what is the financial penalty of not meeting it.
The only time I will ever bring a bed to my office is when I own the company. No other way, ever.
If they saved everyone's job, they should receive a huge ass bonus. If not, they are being straight up exploited.
Absolutely
Nah man they're 'heroes' and their reward is 'everyone's gratitude'
Yea, you're so right. I really doubt they got anything but their regular pay. They should have gotten overtime, food delivered for every meal and a bonus for "saving the business". They are clearly a crap employer, imagine what else goes on.
They are not 'your' jobs. They are their jobs. Wake up and see the picture.
Agree. I may be young, and thus did not need this channel to tell me the reality of modern work culture, I never saw anything different when I started working. This channel DID make me realize that some people do still run their business the old school way, and what to look for to identify one. So I went and found an entirely remote position working for an old-school trust-based employer. Ten grand raise, got to salary, less hours, no commute, no on call for a week straight BS, same benefits, way better holidays (mandatory day off for the Super Bowl even), and double the PTO w rollover. In my previous job, going above and beyond was a waste of effort. Now, my employer actually notices and rewards it. Do not give when you won't get back. I love my new job. My work life balance is better than ever. I feel like I'm on permanent vacation, and being that it's remote I got a doggo to keep my cat company. If you are thinking about finding a new job, DO IT.
Sounds like he threatened to lay people off if they didn't to it. He kept bringing up the jobs of the coworkers.
Exactly what I thought
Time to look for a new job!
They probably put everyone in a room and said "Hey, we need 3 people to stay in the office during the lock down... Any volunteers?" and it was super quiet and awkward until people started looking at the guys who don't have 'family' and they felt guilted into raising their hands.
And that my friend is why I lie and say how can I support a family on this salary. Been in that situation being single. Co workers I have to go pick up the kids. Can you stay and finish this up?
Depends on the money. I interviewed a tech once, said he couldn't work weekends because of his religion. I said "too bad, it pays double time and a half", he changed his mind, seems like we all have price.
@@machinestats459 lol work would have to pay a hefty amount to make me work on the weekend :P
@@ZerudaDensetsu Do you shop on the weekends? What about the people working at the shops? It's ok for them though...
I would have laughed in his face in front of everyone and walked out the door.
Some employees have too sleep at the "office", they're called truck drivers. But seriously my brother owns a small trucking company with a few drivers that operates in the northwest (MT, ID, WA, OR & ND). He plans their routes so they can be home once maybe twice during the week for a quick stop or stay the night and leave early morning. Home every weekend. He's does his best to make sure his drivers don't have to sleeping their trucks all the time & he keeps his customers happy. Now that's a f#¢king good boss.
@@manco828 so is heart attack, stroke, diabetes. personal experience...
@@STScott-qo4pw And this is why there is always a shortage of truck drivers.
@@akiram6609 i know... who the hell wants the job.
@@STScott-qo4pw some of us are kinda born to do it. I would have loved the job, working a couple weeks straight if we got to catch back up on the days and hours off the 40 hour a week people get. Usually you only accrue 1 day off a week, and you have to fight to get it. This also doesn't include the fact that normal people get a work week around 40 hours and get paid all those hours... We definitely don't. So yeah trucking should and used to be a wonderful job... Then it got "de regulated" and the Teamsters Union lost all its clout.
“Another day to live my company’s purpose” said no sane person ever.
Oh man they really cherish their slaves... eh employees. Giving them socks when they are there one week.
Now seriously if I was staying there for few days and got a fucking sock instead of big fat paycheck.
I would start screaming: "Master has given Dobby a sock, Dobby is free."
I would run out of the front door and never return.
and not even notice you were gone that's how fast the fukkers would replace you. sad to say.
How about a fat paycheck and a couple of hoo%ers
@@carl112466 Sounds like a great, but expensive way to start a new religion!
As a caring and responsible CEO your response should be more like "Damn I wish my employees never have to ever do that"
Why wish? If you were the ceo then it’s ur job to ensure it doesn’t happen
Or if it does happen
Pay them
I used to sleep at my last animation job with hopes of climbing the corporate lader, then ended up quiting a month later due to burnout.
When you read the part about the employees having consoles and heating it literally sounded like they're talking about their exotic animals they keep in captivity for their own entertainment.
🤣😩😭😭
bruh. 😥
Next: Tech companies create a built in hospital/dental office, housing, and grocery store on campus! you go if you feel sick, give birth, need a check up. You'll never have to leave work ever!
come visit Sunnyvale or Palo Alto sometime
@@unqiuehandle yikes, I'm sure it's convenient in many ways, but how do the employees feel about it?
Companies should just buy an abandoned hospital or apartment building and turn the first floor into the office space.
After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should not have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people dont get married and dont get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery totalitarianism as these control/money/job/constant additional laws trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery.
Companies tried that in the past with the company towns and it was hell on earth
I've come to the dark realization that some people just want to be controlled, they don't have any inner purpose and desire to be given one. You can't change them. These are the ideal employees. You can make videos mocking them and their bosses but they would be unhappy with more autonomy.
This. This hits hard because you're 100% correct.
Most ppl prefer security over freedom. No matter how fuked it is
It’s easy to say that when you don’t have bills or a family to take care of or are peer pressured because if you don’t then the fear of retaliation in the future. People want to be well liked by others especially those in authority.
@@abes3925 I have a family and bills and if my company wanted this of me, I would happily walk.
ahhhhhh👏❤️🥇❤️👏...the classic political economy debate.....do humans need "royalty"?......or even "freedom"?.....are we pack, herd, or sheeple, or lone wolfs
I came for the software engineering content, stayed for the content I didn't ask for, and am thrilled to see the anti late-stage capitalist/anti corporate videos coming out. Keep up the good work!
I love how their leader said he would've been there but wasn't and called his employees "boys".
The CEO was busy... playing golf with his important buddies.
He brags about making staff into slaves basically.
There was no mention of gifts, bonuses or promotions about sleeping at work, so... it was for nothing but a PR stunt?
He literally has “Sir” as part of his name. That kind of feudal mentality is why they fought a revolutionary war to break off from Great Britain.
Not historically accurate but i see the message you are trying to convey
@@icemans1matedude339, correct. But at least in the US we don’t call our bosses “Your Lordship.” YET 😂
@@tinasquantumshifting no one does, hopefully
Magna Carta is something he needs to familiarize himself with--we're pretty much at the same point as they were in the 13th century when the Black Death wiped out all the peasants and the feudal lords had no one to do the work.. and the workers who did survive it charged more for their work. This is happening all over again and workers must embrace being in the driver's seat right now. They literally cannot make dime without having workers and they need to be reminded of that.
spectacular videos as always!
Why does an office building have showers in their bathroom?? To conveniently clean up after the CEO is done with you??
I worked at a place that had showers. It was so that the guys who cycled to work could freshen up and change clothes before they started in the morning.
Plenty of offices have showers. Sometimes they also have gyms, so a shower is a necessity. Also people cycle to work and need a shower.
Honestly I would volunteer just to bring a tent into the office. And yes I would set it up at the most annoying point and sleep in on Mondays.
Good to see New Zealand on here 😊. There's people trying to force their employees to work during our lockdown here. My Brother's workplace tried and my Mother's workplace was open when they shouldn't have been. I don't mind going above and beyond, it just depends on how the employer treats me. I just hope these guys are getting rewarded. This would probably be classed as non-essential work, so they might get shutdown too.
UwU hello karlrock I love you so muct
It's Pew Dew Pie! but on a serious note, love your channel! Namaste!
Even Kiwis are getting inspired to the toxic American work culture now...
@@GirtonOramsay - It'll never work in construction, since the Pacific Trades' Modus Operandi is to have 2 people on Smoke break whilst one person does the work.
How's being deported feels?
Using the CEO's logic, all they have done is steal the contract from some other company that doesn't need to force it's team to sleep in the office. How long are they going to force them to do this. Is this the new normal workday for them? Once they stop, the competition will take their lunch (and maybe their employees too).
Great point, Gladiator style fight for contracts. The company with most employees that bring beds to the office wins! This could be a reality show 😂
Actually yes.. this is the new normal..
This is a nice snap-shot into the future of office spaces. The only way these buildings will be filled is if they are transformed in hybrid-apartments. Employees already can't afford rent, this is the logical next step in my opinion.
yup.
And of course the sleep-at-work employees will be docked rent and board from their salaries to pay for the room, heating, and bathroom facilities. And eating in the company restaurant they'll pay the company for their food as well.
Hmm, why pay them at all if you provide all they need to live anyway?
In the gaming industry I slept at work on more than a few occasions. And this was almost always due to over promising with arbitrary deadline dates.
A triple AAA?
@@kolacao8134 I did close to 30 years of work from Sierra early days to Sony to Microsoft to over a dozen independents to slot machines. AAA titles were very stressful and yes for two Sony playstation titles I had to sleep in my office.
Granted in the early days we had the dreaded xmas deadline cause companies had to prebuy space on walmart shelves. That's not an issue anymore. Unless its to coincide with a new platform release there is no need for arbitrary ship dates.
@@cb-gz1vl do you have much to show for it?
@@asadb1990 I have shipped titles under my belt. But alas as you get older they discard you. The industry does not want 50 plus people with decades of XP for some reason. No I do not have millions of dollars. I tell young people all the time that if they can, do something else like welder, plumber, bull dozer operator, Find what's in high demand and you live like kings. The game industry is flooded with labor willing to work ungodly hours.
@@cb-gz1vl well most young people aren't willing to waste away at the trades. they got the degree so that they can work a cushy office job.
When you work this hard as an employee you only help the owner/executives at your expense. I killed myself with 70 hour weeks just to be dumped after being injured on the job. Only time that time is worth while is if you own part of the business.
Smart man. Lesson learned only work the bare minimum not to get fired.
If sleeping at the office is so dandy and represents an accomplished work culture, why is CEO Sir Ian Taylor not sleeping in the office too?!
I remember a decade ago studying Japanese culture, I watched videos of animators and game developers who were documented sleeping in their offices almost like they were examples to strive to. While Japan have amazing work ethic, corporate businesses abuse those principles even to this day. A TH-camr named Tomo Japan explains the gist of it in his last video. This greatly extends to China and South Korea and while it explains why they're at the top of the economy, at what cost? The well being of the employees that also factors in passing out on streets due to over-exhaustion and high suicide rates?
when the only thing that matters is profit nobody cares about burnout or work-induced suicide beyond their impacts on productivity.
The Japanese businesses I've been fortunate enough to see in person have been hugely inefficient. In one case, employing 3 times as many staff as my current company in the accounts department to process the same volume of work. Car parks seem to hire people to wave you in, as if you need direction to enter. I'm not sure they are the model to follow.
Hard work does not equates to results. Working smart does, working in a sustainable way does. What really grind my gears with those companies is that they aren't only imoral n greedy, they are dumb, no problem being greedy but can u really not think long term n how much more success/profits u would get overtime if all your workers actually like the company/work their best cause they are well rested, etc? It is like seeling seeds for 50$ when u could plant a tree n seel fruits non stop for triple the price each in a few years.
Most japanese n Chinese companies i heard about are getting through by pure numbers game n bashing their head through problems while burning people like disposable resources. If those countries actually strived for productivity n results, sheesh, coupled with their numbers we would be dominated by them pretty quickly.
But not gonna happen i guess.
Jeez
It's about productivity, an American guy generally is more productive than a Chinese, Korean or Japanese guys with less hours of work.
Last funeral/memorial service I went to did not have a section where someone read the C.V. of the deceased.
Welcome to the age of the Welfare Corporation also known as Neoserfdom!
Keep up the good work Josh. Thank you for bringing to light all this corporate BS. I used to work for a multi national corporation and would see a lot of the same type of behavior and that's what persuaded me to start my own firm. Speaking as a business owner, this type of corporate nonsense makes the rest of us look bad.
6:00 Yep and I think they'll pay themselves with company equity, I remember a decade or two ago it was common to see CEO's with $1 salaries and they'd pay themselves with millions' of dollars worth of their company stock.
The employees who do this RARELY receive anything substantial as a "Thank-you". I have been suckered into this several times and I have never received anything in return that made a blip on my radar. I had a coworker say at the beginning of the pandemic that single people should be the ones to come in to work, and not the ones with children, because "we are all in different stages of our life". This was a very bigoted statement and assumes 1. everyone follows a template in their life of having kids and 2. a single person's home life is less important that a married person's home life. My pets and my fishing are more important to me and are equivalent to their kids.
I do this (sleep at work) because I work in hospitality and sometimes I have a 3pm to 11pm shift and the next day they expect me to start at 7am which is illegal in the UK but they get away with it. So I end up sleeping at work 😕 can’t wait to leave this shit profession working my backside off for minimum wage ..
Sir Ian Taylor is a perfect example of a hypocrite - I bet he would never even remotely consider living out of the office himself for his client's sake, but luckily for him he has a team of dedicated office drones who will oblige him no matter how outrageous his requests are.
Also, how grim is it that their beds are right next to their desk, can’t even have it in a seperate room or anything
I blame the school system for making us believe the only way to have a sense of purpose is to have a job work hard to death these ceos would make anybody depressed by the way they brag having your relatives visit you at work as you live there is not something to be happy about
Blame yourself for being worthless lmfao
YOU ADJUSTED YOUR MIC.
Pro tip, you can still have it horizontal under your chin and it works great. For real though you can hear the proximity effect so much better!
I tried to make it better lol
@@JoshuaFluke1 It's working my guy. I have the same problem of being 30 and sounding 14 and a nice side-address mic with good proximity effect sounds GOAT.
So we're just going to go back to company towns where the company owns everything and you get paid with company currency?
Basically Victorian era England. Where tycoons and magnates basically owned small mining towns and their workers were trapped in a cycle of debt to the company.
@@grimgoreironhide9985 That would explain where America got the idea.
I think some giant companies have done something like this - paid their workers not with money but gift cards for the store that they worked for.
@@Seattle-2017 Amazon does that but only as bonuses so far.
Yes.
Wealth and power distort your ability to understand normal people.
Honestly if the service is really needed, set up a global team where people work normal business hours in their region. They might realize they aren't important after all.
Funny that you don't see Ian or Cheryl sleeping in the office with their "boys". (Seriously, how demeaning does that sound? Is it just me?)
I was thinking the exact same thing. Bragging about the employees that slept in the workplace while they went home. I now see who he was referring to when talking about the sacrifice that let the other employees be with their families.
There is a CEO here in Michigan who's in jail for doing this which violated zoning laws. Do that here in the U.S. abd we throw you in jail period.
I see both sides. If this was voluntary more power to them. Some people love their job and don't mind making it a bigger part of their life. It should never be expected, though. The real monster is all the others replying they wish their employees did it. That's entirely for selfish reasons.
I remember when we used to do overtime, our CEO walked on us at 10pm (we lived altogether). He checked what we're doing, ordered us food then when we're eating told us that that will be the last time he'll see us do overtime unless there's a life and death situation (field accidents, for example).
We lived in that office as it was free. It's actually a house converted into an office. The CEO lives there, too. But after office hours and weekends, he let us do what we want to do. Never disturbed us unless he cooked and wanted to share some food.
Yeah that contract clause is called 'force majeure'. Any smart company has this in their contract because some things are well outside the control of either party in the contract. The purchasing heads at the other companies would have secondary service providers already on contract. Shitty companies with shitty strategies helped make the global supply chain way worse than it ever needed to be.
That founder is more concerned about the company is paying his bills rather than that of the employees. I remember around 25 years ago when the director asking who will "volunteer" to stay the weekend to make sure the reports are generated and also printed for distribution. The reporting services had this innate ability to crash due to the number of pages it need to cache before printing (yup, this was a time when people wanted paper on desks for meetings). Needless to say, no one volunteered. We then got an email to nominate someone, and the person with the most votes wins a weekend in the office. So we all voted for ourselves so there isn't a loser. The next step was us being taken in the room and threatened with losing our jobs if someone doesn't stay in. This went on for a week before HR got involved letting them know what they do is classified as bullying. They finally offered a bonus to "do our job" after hours. This dipshit of a director then still got annoyed when we don't invite him to Friday night pub crawls.
That's funny - great story! Yeah, like they were going to fire everybody. Shows the great power that workers have if they actually work together. There needs to be more of these "unofficial unions" in the corporate workplace, or the workers are screwed.
What would've happened if you nominated the supervisor to do it?
@@ZephyrinSkies Funny thing, we did once. He passed it back and said he is "not technically skilled and it's not his job".
@@MrBenTheBear lol, some supervisor.
Lol He took the post down, good to see these kinds of people getting some sense and realize that they are being taken advantage of
Lmao this was me… I slept at my mortgage office when there were snow storms forecasted so I could answer the phones. Terrible for mental and physical health. Take care of yourselves first kids
Real question is: did any of those 3 get any financial compensation beyond their standard compensation. Else all the validation is POINTLESS!!
It's so hard to move a whole bed. These guys better get a 20% raise.
THIS WAS FREAKING NUTS!!
I've only done this with two jobs; in the Army and as a civilian contractor in a warzone...
The place I used to work had a running joke that "we just need cots under our desks to get the work done". Overtime and staying late was the norm for my department. This video makes my stomach turn.....This is not okay.
You deserve more subcribers. Doing gods work to show the true side of these corporate monoliths just sucking out all life from humans
So, I actually know nothing about computers. Beyond getting online. I would like to eventually get educated in that area. The reasons why I have to wait are a story for another day.
I have been here since the stuff went south with your family. I know much more about your personal life, than I know about computers. I stay for these posts. Because you are taking the action that I have been saying for years, needed to happen. I'm so excited to see the younger generation not falling for the brainwashing that has cost us decades of progress. I could never be just another cog in the machine. It's disgusting how people don't value you themselves enough to demand A DECENT WAGE. I believe that are the light we need at this time.
Thank you for following your passion, Josh.
This 53 year old, woman, admires what you are doing. And, how you are going out it. 💚❤🤍🧡💜🖤💛💙
Glengarry Glen Ross 2021 Reboot:
"Put that pillow down, sleeping is for closers"
My workplace has two actual apartments above it that employees are free to use if they have to work the evening shift, then the morning shift. The workplaces shifts are 7 am to 3 pm, then 3 pm to 11 pm. Closed from 11 pm to 7 am. This only happens when you need to work one or the other as overtime due to people calling in sick or something. They pay us overtime to cover those shifts. 50 dollars an hour base pay and 100 dollars an hour on the overtime.
I love this channel. This video is so ironic for me. I quit my job as a Senior Software Engineer to play golf on the PGA Tour Latino America. I played college golf and when I graduated I got a job as a Software Engineer. After 6 years in this toxic industry, I started practicing with a few of my old friends that now play on the PGA Tour Latino America and Korn Ferry Tour and that motivated me to get back into following my dreams (and making money). No more pull requests! I just want to play well next year
yet another reason to ONLY accept fully remote positions.
work is NEVER "family", not even if they do direct RevShare
its always JUST a job!
My employees, I love em. When I say jump they say how high, when I say shit they say what color. They will nob clean all day long, and ask to do more, they really seem to want to please me..They are happy with ataboys, never bring up dirty money. They work because they are workers driven by natural instinct to please their employer. I'm even offered their daughters before their wedding too. Just like a big family I rule. Just Love em all. How about you, your plebes totally committed to making your life great too. If not find others, who relies their place and are happy with it and treat you as you are entitled to be treated as an elite...
I already know what Josh is gonna say(probably). Such a Basic argument yet so true.
Why bring the bed to the office when you can just bring the PC from the Office or your own PC and work at home.
Plus you can take a shower and eat breakfeast, cringe things to do if you just wake up in the Office.
Taking part in an international broadcast may be amazing fun, but what's even more fun is getting paid without sacrificing my health and dignity.
The funny part is that three guys keep the job of all the rest but their salary is not even 1/3 of what an SEO/BOSS receives...
So... these 3 men were guilted into saving the company by sleeping at the office. They saved the company contract and were praised? Were they compensated financially for saving the company? "Family," doesn't get fired. Family takes care of you when you are sick, watches your kids for you when you need a break, walks you down the isle on your wedding day. Substitute the word family for slaves and you get the real picture. I hope a better company with more benefits poaches those workers and treats them right.
Tech companies serve free dinner, provide gyms, etc. so you never have to leave.
Good. I'll eat my free dinner, get my free pump, and do shit on my phone in the office instead of at home. They'll only get 8 hours of labor out of me.
Sounds like they are taking advantage because they can be like: "Hey, do this for me." At any time of the day XD
@@darkdudironaji they will just set it up to make you look bad. Meanwhile you increasingly have to work harder to fit everything in 8 hrs and even work through lunch...they try to burn you out. They may not directly fire you, especially if its obvious ur a good worker that just has stuff stacked on u but they will make u want to leave and offer you some $ to resign or ride it out to the end of the pip and then can u....ughhh these companies are bullshit
Is this the corporate version of living in a van down by the river?
Of course it'd be animators volunteering. Maybe we should give a shout out to everyone else that wasn't management that didn't raise their hands. Those will be the ones who ultimately change things in their (and everybody else's) favor by saying "No" with their actions.
And of course it'd be management that couldn't shepherd their business through the contract phase properly, letting their desperation and irresponsibility trickle down to the people on the floor that do the actual service.
This reminds me of a joke I once heard, "the richer you get the smaller the balls get in the sports you watch"
Where do pucks fit into this?
It's sick when people sleep at work or don't take vacation.
That is so gross. I am appalled at those disgusting CEOs
Joshua, you are the revolution in the industry.
Awesome, man!
This culture is made so common that every other person is following the BS as sheeps.
You on the other hand is making "speak for yourselves" a common thing.
You are the Someone who knocks on these corporate people every time they get too self-centered.
Yes, I agree.
wow I can use parts of Ben Taylor's comment to get people interested in my stamp collection!
Seeing those comments on LoserIn sure makes you wonder about the world we live in, holy shit
I freaking love you, Josh! You're saying it like it is. Thses companies have gone crazy and think of employees like slaves. They still think we live in the 50's.
Nowadays, most jobs don't even need to have an office. It can all be done from home.
Alexander the Great dressed like his soldiers and spent time with them, and was often found walking through the camp, stopping to talk and listen to groups of men. This outward appearance of love and concern, allied with his courage and determination, evoked great affection from his soldiers. Did this CEO share the same bunks and sleeping quarters?
Thanks for sticking up for the single folks! I'm single and before leaving corporate work I found that I was asked to do more and sacrifice more usially with the excuse of "well they have a family".
the whole new Zealand, kiwi, whānau thing makes me cringe 🤣
Met my old colleagues today. Told the partners that if they're insisting people come to office, if they get ill they should be paid in full and not statutory sick pay (UK), which is a pittance.
I noticed how no one mentions that the three who decided to sleep at the office should get raises. Very telling. As a business owner, I am of the belief that if my staff is helping to keep me in business, I will definitely take care of them through compensation and bonuses
"Just once I wish my employees would say"
That's pretty cult like.
I am from NZ and this is sickening only essential services are to operate this is not essential. People deserve and should be with their families.
That lip smacking did it for me honestly lmao. Pure unadulterated gold my friend. Keep up that wonderful sarcasm!
People on LinkedIn are weird asf
I worked for a company that had an employee appartment building in one of their larger offices so not only do you live at work but your employer is your landlord.
Back to the Middle Ages with serfs and the aristocracy.
So I'm military, and while my work tried to build a WFH system (we had very weird and specific requirements they had to get around), leadership didn't know how bad COVID would get (this was like FEB2020). We actually had a "local deployment" plan created to convert our building into a pseudo-dorm and office. For about 3 weeks a handful of us were on lockdown at our homes so we didn't get COVID prior to "going in". Luckily it never came to that and we worked remote most of 2020. It was a wierd experience
Me thinks the focus could go more on what sort of management allows the company to get in a position where a 72-hour shift is needed in the first place. There's absolutely no chance that skimping on hiring adequate/qualified/well-paid folks had anything to do with it... 👀
I lost it at central heat is a work benefit 😲
Companies tend to not take wage subsidy because they have to be honest about what they own to the government and it is a big no-no.
The mental gymnastics on the means to end on why treating humans as animals is great speaks volumes. They simply have an automatic foot feed in the mouth with every explanation indicating their incompetence with contracts and managing human beings.
I mean coming from the army being an airborne infantryman 3 days ain’t shit. However, in a normal job I best be compensated and promoted for that shit. I left the military for a reason. Lol
Lol. I also switched jobs and got almost a $20/hr raise ... about time I get paid fairly.
"Volunteer"
More like slumber party at the office. Basically chilled at the office to apply lower thirds and update positioning data. Most likely inebriated while doing it...cause I would be and have been.
For these specific guys, working in the entertainment industry with possibly low pressure tasks that just need to be done at a specific late hour, this is fine. But then you have the issue of other CEOs getting ideas for workers who dont have those conditions. Better idea would be to give them extra vacation or pay quietly and only allow that to be known within the company for praise if needed.
Josh you say it like we all think it. Everything you say is like 100% right on the money.
I have been jokingly talking about putting a cot or murphy bed in my office, but I wouldn't actually do it. I have done overnighters and long stretches, but I don't believe I have ever actually slept at work. Given the choice, I'd rather work overtime at home, so I could be comfortable.
Even the South Park studios people managed to let their people work from home over the last year... they sent them high end workstations to use.
The question, what's in it for me is very essential.