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I am afraid that if I watched the original, I would be tempted to leave a comment that starts with "Oh, you sweet summer child...".
Josh, She is very sincere in this video.. So can't be hard on her. Its not like those boomer browbeating videos, or Ice cream videos from HR.
Joshua, you have 1GB upload & download!?! Here in Sydney, Australia, I cannot get more than 250Mbps download and 25Mbps upload thanks to NO FIBER! So fkn backwards for a city of over 5 million! 🙄
I am actually a "Non Exempt" salary employee. I get my guaranteed weekly salary plus 1.5 the hourly rate if I work over 40. Pretty sweet. So that really helps, but also too many hours can suck.
Hey man. You are using the Blue Yeti wrong.
Why do people talk about corporate jobs as if they're all Google? Reality is most Americans work over 40 hours at a place with stale air, fluorescent lighting everywhere, no snack bar, and bare minimum benefits. Most people will plateau in their career by age 30. After that learning new skills becomes a thing of the past, no one is interested in mentoring you, and you'll be stuck with your 3% raise a year until you retire. You can go find a "better" job but it will quickly look just as demotivating as the last.
Nothing against her personally. She sounds like me when I first started my career. But the glitter fades away VERY quickly. You'll lose any interest in furthering your career after a few years and the only thing you'll care about is paying the mortgage and putting food on the table.
I think the number one solution is to change the mindset of the worker. Workers need to feel empowered to respect their own lives. Work from home is the greatest innovation the American worker has ever had. People have suddenly started to realize they have basic human rights and now they're sticking up for themselves.
I definitely agree
@dwh Yeah usually after 30-35 people have a harder time pulling all nighters and working at 100%.
@@MK_ULTRA420 amen to that one. People in their 20s don’t understand how much energy you lose in your 30s and 40s. The only reason employers put up with older employees is experience and, after a while, that goes stale too sadly.
@dwh in my experience, and in the experience of MANY people I know, we have reached the peak of our career by age 30. It's not about having enough energy, it's about the fact that your employer doesn't want you to move up, you become too busy to grow professionally, and better opportunities become increasingly rare. No matter how old you are, you'll likely reach your professional peak after just a few years in any career. Obviously there are exceptions to this.
European here - MOVE TO THE OLD CONTINENT ALREADY!!!! WE have worker's rights and your value here, regardless of wheather or not you realise it, is protected by the law! It's cheaper and better to live in Europe, so just move here, even temporarily - it will help you define your value and have a better life because of it!
Sounds like a young optimistic 22 year old full of hope and dreams of the corporate life. When reality sets in she will post a video of why I left my 9-5!
Lol. "Why I left my 120k job to pursue my dreams"
"How I became 40, single, childless and still loving life"
@@cpK054L While sipping wine and playing with her cats.
i don't know i don't mind working ever since i was 16. but i always understood the owner always looked down at me. and working harder than the bare min didn't make much sense. and i always laughed when my first salaried employer expected me to stay late. after work we have maybe 5-6h. and then we go sleep at 10a to get up for the next day. that's too short to give more time.
Why I'm ex Google,ex Facebook,ex husband
It makes sense that she's 20 years old. This is like a 20 year old giving a speech about how good parenthood is, having never actually raised children.
I'm 20 I have 2 kids and being a parent is amazing it's tiring and hard but it's for sure worth it
I can tell she's young because she doesn't understand how disrespectful employers are yet
Maybe she currently have a good employer. They still exists. But definitely not as many as the bad and disrespectful ones.
@@allangumiran8327 it's possible, but it's so hard to believe that's the case
@@Sindoku I'm 30, so kind of lol I learned how toxic employers were when I turned 19
Yep I'm only 22, but after close to 4 years of FTE work experience I can say I miss being a naïve worker. Things change so quickly... took me 6-12mo to realise I needed to invest aggressively and be frugal so I will have financial freedom.
Man I am still in college and u r scaring me.
As a child of immigrants, I know exactly where she is coming from. These are ideas our parents often indoctrinate us with from a young age. In general, our parents grew up in more volatile circumstances and think the US is a safe haven in comparison.
Due to this, they, unfortunately, push this idea of "safe and stable jobs" when in reality, nothing is guaranteed in life. Stability is a farce no matter where you live, and you need to be prepared for shit to hit the fan regardless of your degree, job, work experience, etc.
The reason I know this is because my parents survived a war and saw doctors (the most "stable" job) lose everything.
she's young and probably her first job, everyone loves it at first
man im at my first job after college and I already dread it :')
Yes
and especially women, who have no family, so that's their substitute
I loved my first job in tech at first because it felt like I was getting paid to do stuff I already enjoyed doing in school. That love faded away within a year or two with meetings, unrealistic deadlines, and corporate BS.
I didn't. 😂😂
blink 3 times if youre forced to love 8 to 5
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I used to do 8-6!!
I like my remote Job, its not necessarily 9-5. I can start at 8 or 10am and work till 4 or 6 pm depending on meetings or none. I can work after dinner if there's crunch time for something and also take a 2 hour lunch break on slow days. It's the flexibility and no set hours that are nice for me personally.
After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should not have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people dont get married and dont get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery.
wow uwu
@@rejectionistmanifesto8836 lmao nah I have been risking it for 3 years and still haven’t become a dad. Just gotta get your pullout game on point 💪
@@AsadoMao statistics disagree with that approach tho
@@AsadoMao lol 😂 be careful man lol sheesh
"it's not a rat race"
Me looking at my countless rejections: 🤡🤡🤡🤡
bruh.... I hear ya
U not an attractive FARM TOOL ?
Looooooool
lol just study engineering and do few internships, i had 4 offers 80k+ before i graduated
@@yt_nh9347 BS - I know alot of engineering doing menial work what school did U go to ?
Companies used to offer gym reimbursements but a lot of them now throw a couple tread mills into a corner room in the office and call it a on-site gym. Nobody uses this. Yeah, I want to work all day and then exercise at the office with co-workers... Nope.
They get to keep their business expense, you don't. They maintain assets.
Some people like to exercise in the morning and it’s nice to offer that I guess. You can’t please everyone
Wait till she is in her 30s and several companies milked her passion and drained her ambition lol.
Yeah. Employers loved me (young girl) when I was a green excited leader with no other commitments. As soon as I got my own opinions and started contributing to the table, I’m not so loved anymore.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORD, if I wasnt thinking the same thing.
Im so glad I 'saw the light" day one of my old job, hustled my way to 'retiring' early at 41.
Previous job, basically GUTTED PEOPLE'S SOULS...
This lil idiot in this video, in 5-10yrs, will 'see the light' and realize how complete assinine she sounds .
@DarwinAward let’s not assume every woman wants to use her reproductive system. This isn’t the 50s.
And she's been made redundant 3 times.
From UK here, I find it very strange in the US how health insurance has to be provided by the employer, as an individual you need to buy your own car insurance, home insurance, and every other insurance. But the most important one is provided by someone who can bully you into working ridiculous hours and making your life miserable under threat of removing insurance?
Yes. This happens all the time. Many people with health issues that need insurance for to be able to buy their prescription to be able to stay alive. Sad state of affairs.
@@JoshuaFluke1 in the UK you can buy health insurance, but if you get insurance from your company then change job they won't cover any illness you had from your previous job as its a "pre-existing condition". So its best to buy the insurance on your own so the company can't control your health
To summarise, company benefits are garbage, get cash instead
@dwh We pay a lot of tax, but not for anything useful unlike many other countries that have higher tax rates. Our infrastructure is poor, our education system is poor and not free at the higher levels, our healthcare is privatized and very pricy, and the design of our cities is terrible. These are all things governments use tax money to improve in other nations.
You can get health insurance in the US, but because of the grift you'll get rekt on the premiums.
With the group health insurance the cost is significantly weighted on the employer.
My insurance without employer, aka COBRA would cost me 1500 a month for family. I pay under 20% of that
I learned my lesson with so called "Job Stability" 2 months ago. Literally brought someone else in to replace me, I trained the person and they were plotting this behind my back since January. It SUCKS but hey it's a lesson learned.
Same here. Truly shitty
That's why I refuse to train anyone. I was hired to do work, not to train people. In future, just refuse and tell them you don't know how to train...and you're terrible at it. If they insist just look for another job and do a bad job training the new person.
I've been there too.
The worst is when they make you train a new hire while they make you believe it's because you're about to be promoted and the new employee will be under you...
In China, they tried to do this exact thing to a pilot, he was told to trained an executive's son, he knew exactly was going on, also at the same time he lost everything because of the collapse of Evergrande, so he was broke and will be jobless very soon, so he commit suicide by crashing the plane he was piloting full of people, getting his former employers in a awful situation to the Chinese gov. Lesson to be learn is that do not treat people like trash, some of them will come back a bite you!!!
@@joaquinescotoaleman4320 truth!
She's young and naive.....she'll learn.
yep, give her time
She's got some good points that apply mostly to people who just graduated from college and have never had to have a job... That's why there's a college education mill, so there are subservient employees that don't question leadership.
This!
I would love to leave my job and work for myself. I’m aiming for it.
I'm rooting for you
After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should not have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people dont get married and dont get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery.
@@rejectionistmanifesto8836 Amen
Good luck 👍
There are lots of positives about 9-5 jobs: relative security, structure, potential for mentorship; the problem is when they try to take over your entire life.
Working 8 hour days is unreasonable to ask of anyone I do it but it's just unreasonable there's no reason atleast 1/3rd of your day should be put out for someone else's company expecially when they set in an office or at a beach everyday just relaxing and making 100× what they pay employees
@@shakinbottles And in reality, most people only do about 3 hours of actual work each day.
@@ThePolaroid669 hey my man guess what😂 I stopped working completly and I don't think I'm ever going back to being an employee I hope yall the best working as little as possible
Jobs being stable is a myth but so is a business being stable. I think it all comes down to demand.
Robotics and automation is we’re it’s at
We're at the start of the 4th industrial revolution. Remember when we went to the blacksmith for tools? Me neither.
@@BboyKeny whats a blacksmith ?
best comment I've seen
She has a few good points but the longer you stay in the corporate machine, the glam and shine wears off. This does sound like someone fresh in the industry who hasn't suffered being in multiple rounds of layoffs, actually been laid off, been in dead end jobs, reskilled themselves and NOW has a decent career. My purpose now is to sharpen my skillset then eventually move onto the next. I have no company loyalty, that went out the window in my late 20s. This is a business contract that can be terminated at anytime by both parties. Do not forget that. Eventually, I think I'll pursue running my own company but there's a few goals I need to accomplish before doing so. First is finding that niche in an industry. Second is having the skillset and experience to solve those problems. Third is bringing on people that can fill in the gaps I do not have. Fourth is business acumen to promote my business to bring in more clientele.
We need a “Where are they now” update in about 2 years to see how much she still loves the corporate world.
That’s impossible because she completely disappeared from the internet and off the face of the Earth one year ago. No one has been able to find a trace of what happened to her.
She made this video private
I believe that she's with her first or second job now, never experienced toxic boss, micro management, favoritism, burnouts because working hard for so long and etc.. I used to be optimistic like her when I was in 20s. Soon she will be wide awake.
It's also possible that her boss/employer is one of the good ones. They exist, and employees will remain loyal/productive as long as those "good bosses" are in control. They won't be there forever. Managers either retire, or get promoted out of their current position. Owners eventually sell the business or pass it on to their children. Things won't necessarily remain "fantastic" once that happens - you're always rolling the dice on work environment when you replace the people in charge.
You deserve a lot more thumbs up for this comment. From what I can tell, you described the situation perfectly. In the short time she's been working, she probably really likes her role, her boss, and is ok with most of her co-workers- and thinks it's never going to stay that way forever.
She's probably hasn't experienced toxic competition either. I was 30 when it first happened to me, working in a vault pulling car titles with 10-15 other people. It felt like we were pitted against each other, racing to see who would finish first. It encouraged stepping over each other to get ahead.
Also, who would be the first to leave the parking lot after work, beating each other to the first lane turn. It was weird and often stoked my anger, especially where favoritism was involved and a dickish supervisor promoted more duties to the people they liked/who kissed their asses vs. the ones who been there awhile or was just as qualified.
Thank god my current job isn't like that.
Working in retail or fast food will show you the reality of working in general especially corporate America.
My experience working in fast food and retail taught me not to be loyal to a company AT ALL.
@@cerebraldreams4738I feel this. I used to have a job I loved so much.
Pay was great (at least for me and even by market standards, it was mid-range), there were good benefits, had more than enough time off, work was challenging but never burned me out and my manager was great.
Well, then things changed once it was bought out (to be fair, I came after the acquisition but they didn't really act on anything until about 4 years later), leadership was moved around and the automony I enjoyed went away.
So I also left
Still jaded but at least I had 4 great years and almost 1 extra year of a bearable environment.
I still miss how it was before but it is what it is. I don't know how much more time I need to accept that it's gone but it'll happen
Honestly a corporate job sounds like a nightmare right now tbh
It really is...
It is.
Every job is right now. Im in healthcare.
@@CyclingMartialartswithMusic true, but with healthcare you have a higher purpose of helping the general population. A big corporate job right now sounds worse.
@@BeginnerTrading In my honest opinion, there is more to healthcare than "care". We are also in cubicles/tables, micromanaged, disgusting coworkers, pathetic benefits. Like everyone else is complaining about. 🤔
I actually laughed when she said health plans are curated for the employee and in the employees interests, 😂
She’s young, that’s all.
Yea she’s 22, she’s allowed for a single year to buy alcohol and drink in her own country- I wonder where her false confidence comes from and who in the fk gave her the idea that she has.. any.. valuable experience in the working world. She literally just got to be an adult (somewhat)- why does she think she knows any valuable information about anything?
I’m so confused as to how she thinks anyone wants a 22yr olds advice. No one does. She literally has 0 clue what she’s taking about (as evidenced in the video..)
A sucker is born everyday.
@@JerseyDevil187 I suppose but I'm just confused about her wrong sense of confidence.
Don't get me wrong now: Confidence is a good thing. But I personally feel like there's smth that went wrong while growing up that made her believe that the entire world is just waiting for her advice, and her advice only, yknow what I mean?
Like.. I don't start doing my pilotslicense and upload videos about how to fly a plane, if that makes sense..
I literally just began, how could I possibly know. It's just misplaced confidence in a topic where she BARELY even put a single toesie in the door. BARELY.
My best friend works in the insurance industry and has illuminated how benefits plans are most definitely not designed with workers in mind. Purely a business move and nothing else. A big reason why corporate America does not support things like universal healthcare despite most business in that sector paying for health insurance is because the business incentives very much benefit them in huge ways. Tax deductions being a huge reason, and also it's an excellent way to reduce turnover since people will stay at a job no matter how shitty if it has a decent healthcare plane
Like a health plan will pay your rent….
some people like stability, I do good money for my country's standards and never overwork.
Still, I hate the cult shit the corporate has sometimes
did you mean "perception of stability"?
What I like is routine. I do not like the feeling of novelty. I’m quite okay if today feels like yesterday, and yesterday feels like the day before that. It’s not stability, no, but I at least know what my work day is gonna be like. I respect entrepreneurism but I think it’s way too chaotic for my tastes.
Lol as an engineer.
Working from home is a blessing.
Typically, I get my work done in less than 20 hours per week and still get my pay. Some weeks are longer than 40hrs but man, the vast majority of them I am not putting in a full 40.
If I can keep a 9 to 5 like this all my life, I would not complain!
9-5 jobs always sounded like a blessing to me. I'm so tired of these 80+ hours a week. If I could get a normal 9-5 job I probably wouldn't complain.
@@martinhernandez2065 I hope you're making bank at least.
@@attomicchicken sure did :) and with no time to spend any of it I got to buy myself a nice car
Wow, that's wonderful. I'd like to ask what kind of engineer are you? Are you writing software? Because I'd love to be in that position too. I'm still trying to figure out if I should get into cybersecurity or become a programmer.
I am happy for you, so it pains me to bring you the bad news. Even if you're hitting your performance measures, they will eventually figure out they aren't set high enough or their over paying you for the amount of effort you're putting in, in most caes. It's similar to the other depressing notion that once you start making real money in your life (say, six figures plus) they start looking for ways to reduce the cost of that position. If you're at the top of your pay scale at your company or in your industry, plan accordingly. It's just a matter of time before someone outside of your deparment notices and tries to rectify it, no matter how horriblly misguided their plan may be for the company in the long run.
The corporate ladder is very stable. But it is standing on a rug they can pull out from under you whenever they want.
Yes sir
I'm probably missing something but if the rug can be pulled out from under you at any time, then I personally don't consider that stable.
It's not fatal dude...
@@isaiahsmith6016 It's stable because you can always land your feet on another rug in a similar capacity.
Wow what an apt description
This poor girl. She's so young and naive. Let's see what she thinks 20 years down the road.
As to retirement - to me "retirement" means I can meet my basic needs (housing, food, etc) and can afford to work on things I really WANT to work on. Retirement does not equal idleness. If I need or want some additional money, I can pick up a shorter term gig or two.
It's hilarious that they think they will just want to enjoy be in vacation when they r old lol, it's so naive & funny
Better enjoy when young
She def sounds like she's new to the job "game" in this thing called life...full of energy, willing to prove herself and wanting to push forward. With so many work options out here these days, she'll fig it out soon enough when the jaded status sets in, and she has regrets of being pigeonholed in climbing that corporate ladder! Keep up the good content Josh...your sense of humor is priceless!
It's stable salary when you haven't experienced the rug pulled out from under you. In the end, you have to watch out for yourself and your future. Don't place your future in a single employer's hands. Pretty much the message Joshua is trying to get across in most videos. You like your job, that's great, but be mindful that a company will always prioritize what is best for the business, so have a back-up plan.
I’m an American living in Sweden and sometimes I miss the states but these are videos really make me appreciate Sweden.
We have unlimited sick days
5 weeks paid vacation
240 days per parent paid parental leave that is not allowed to be refused by the employer. You are protected by law and it is illegal to fire someone for using parental leave.
You can more or less choose to work overtime or not. You are not obligated to work overtime.
My pay isn’t that high compared to US salaries but after paying all my bills including food for the month I have about 600 - 1000 usd I can use for whatever.
I'd love to live there, but I'm too old to get a visa.
@@RedtheCat2014 Your best bet is finding a Swedish partner and moving in together. Much easier to get a visa in that situation. Work with another American in her 60s and that is how she moved over here.
Her eyes scream 'I did an excellent job memorizing what the career center at my university says'.
ah yes, I too remember my honeymoon corporate job period when I thought I could climb the corporate ladder and be rewarded for working hard and keeping my head down. In reality your reward for hard work is just more work and noone will go out of their way to reward and recognize you. You are on your own.
She's young and it sounds like it's her first or second corporate job she received. The burn out is real and you won't want to get out of bed reminded to work on Mondays... Wait until she gets older as most companies don't want to hire older people because they know how expensive you are (kids, mortgage, health insurance) that companies don't want to pay. Thus, companies knowing your age range and the type of lifestyle you will probably live by and they would rather hire someone out of college with low starting pay, and probably knowing you're single with no kids. I've been at startups companies to big corporations. I've heard hiring managers say things like, "you're over qualified for the position" from job interviews and follow up with no second interview. They would rather select the other candidate because they know you're really expensive to pay. It will bite her back once she gets older by someone else younger than her.
I didn't like 9-5 in a corporate office at all. I like project management and working my own way and I'm in a consulting start up atm three days remote, I hope to get enough experience to work a contractor so I can choose when I come into offices and work 6 months on, 6 months off. I owe a lot to you Josh for giving me the tools to put into motion a plan to get the life I actually want to live.
:) Peace and lovee
6 months on and 6 months off is gonna suck. It’s too long of a work gap and I’m sure by the 2nd month of your 6 month off gap, you will be bored and miss being productive. The optimal for me would be 3 months work and 3 months off
There is no such thing as a coincidence.
@@Flowerlifts111 even I think that's too much. I think 6 months on 1 month off is a good balance. You should only start taking larger breaks once you've got a personal project that's actually bringing you income.
Love reading comments like this. You have your mind keep at it man! Inspires me to keep pursuing my goal of working for myself.
It's funny to me that the pain that people experience that they work under someone is less painful than being independent, people so much do not trust themselves that the pain of getting things done on their own is more painful than working under people and accepting conditions of society.
I heard from a speaker Les Brown.
For some people the pain of the unknown is much worse than the known hell that they are currently experiencing daily. If you go out on your own, the risk and reward, also known as responsibility is all on you!
@Killer Miser Ask yourself why do you call it an entrepreneur?
Mentorship is often lacking in corporations nowadays because the older generations are both reluctant and bad at passing on knowledge and then they retire. After all if they mentor you they risk you becoming better than them at their craft or at whatever they are best known for and they want to take that "achievement" with them out the door. Knowledge transfer is a huge problem across many industries.
Josh I think you were a little harsh on the "stable salary" part. 9-5s are stable compared to freelancing and hustling, which can fluctuate. Building a baseline of wealth before moving on to self-employment is a really common route that works well for a lot of people. It is possible but hard to go straight from school to self employment with $0 to your name.
It just seems stable because you don't have access to the business bank statements. You just get a check and cash it and assume it's there. If you could see fluctuations and spending you'd really be able to see just how instable it is. Cognitive dissonance imo. But what you're saying is what I recommended in the video. Get a job then find a way out.
It only FEELS stable because it's what everyone does and what everyone has done since the dawn of time...except that that money is entirely in the hands of your employer, not you. They can drop you at any time for any reason and there's nothing you can do about it.
@@JoshuaFluke1 "It just seems stable because you don't have access to the business bank statements. You just get a check and cash it and assume it's there. If you could see fluctuations and spending you'd really be able to see just how unstable it is."
This might be one of the more ridiculous things I heard from you. In majority of cases your "paycheck" is a bank transfer to your personal bank account so you see both the in and outflows there. Of course your bank balance fluctuates but that's because of spending not because of an unstable salary. It's a pretty simple concept - employees get a stable salary (please don't respond saying that you can get fired hence the salary isn't stable - when you're in employment your salary is stable, unless you work for some shady types), self-employed work from gig to gig so no stability of income.
@@JoshuaFluke1 - Large businesses are more stable than small businesses, which are in turn more stable than startups. The problem is that you're exchanging a lot of individual freedom for a stable paycheck, and you're not working for your own benefit anymore. You work for the people who pay you, who now get to dictate what your job obligations are, what hours you work, and you won't have a lot of say in these matters. You might also have to put up with a toxic boss that constantly berates you, no matter how hard you work or how good your work is, because they're some douchebag who finally has a little bit of power.
How stable is it ? When Covid hit that’s left plenty of people unemployed ? When I worked at Magna they had a chip shortage which left all the employees out of work for a whole month. But my friends who all are self employed still had plenty of work and through Covid was still busy
I find it hard to believe someone can be so obsessed with corporate culture, i mean, literally, nowadays, there is so much shit to do and so many hobbies to explore, so many places to see, why should your 9-5 entry level job be your whole world?
Hobbies often require you to go out on your own, and to problem-solve by yourself.
A corporate job treats you like a child, feeds you instructions, and doesn't expect you to think.
Some people aren't interested in thinking.
I hate corporations.
I have found that working in the corporate world over 20 years has lead me to be less confidence in venturing out on my own and taking more chances. The older you get as you work in the corporate world you start looking at risks to your pension and other benefits if you leave or lose your job. The world of corporations lulls employees into a false sense of security and then when layoffs start to happen they cause stress. Yes some people love that world but from the start take control of their journey. From my experience there aren't many like that in the entry level end. If the person hasn't moved on in 5 years, they will find it hard to move on after that. That would be my recommendation. If you work in a corporation, take control of your journey from day one. Don't ever start to relax and feel that you are secure. I've seen it happen too often. I will say that some companies are really good with their employees but it all depends on the leaders. You can have it good one day and they can take the benefits away the next day.
It's called golden handcuffs. When a job becomes decent enough for you to be comfortable and lazy for years until you wake up and find out that you are too old, too invested in the company's benefits program to find another opportunity.
Yep never ever relax in a job. Always have your resume ready to go, and be applying for jobs. Always try learning new skills and things. You need to take care of yourself tbh… also always save/invest/minimise debt.
This is why I'm glad I never went that direction. Started off working as a server (closest job you can get to being an independent contractor while being an employee). Went to massage therapy school and immediately started working for myself. Paid for uni, got my anthro degree, and now am saving for field school next year. Most of arch is contract work so not much will change in terms of the flexibility I've always had.
I recognize this could be very different for someone with health conditions who needs the benefits of a regular job. I'm 24 so I am still on my parents insurance and, as of right now, it looks like I will be marrying a Canadian. So, i know I'm incredibly lucky that health insurance will likely never be a problem for me.
The day I broke free from those golden handcuffs was when I withdrew everything early from pensions which would've equated to $700/month anyways, and invested in stocks that yielded far more returns.
This applies to a lot of people on social media. They are always trying to put out the illusion that their life is amazing and they are happy.
People like her are like teacher’s pets - their obedience makes them feel superior to others.
It's the poke-evolution of the corporate simp
@@GuiltyNoticer people actually do that?! Wtf and I thought wearing a mask in your car was bad smdh
thats typical indian employee. so much simping to the boss
@@thesleezer1711 Asians do not do that idk about white libs
Your content is life changing, thank you Josh for all that you do.
Man, American Work culture is so weird from a german point of view. We have health Care for everyone and 30 days of vacation per year is more or less the norm...
I heard in US there is 2 week UNPAID vacation.
not like they pay me enough to go anywhere anyway
the diffenrence is the tax , tax in germany is wayyy more then in the US
@@chakibboumaraf3127 so higher taxes are a good thing for average Joe?
@@einCAA it depends but I think there’s a line In between I personally live where there’s free healthcare but I never went to a gov clinic because they suck also I live in a country where part of the taxes go to religious organizations wich I 100% disagree with soo I rather get taxed less on those stuff but it depends it’s more of a spectrum , IMO taxes tend to benefit the lower middle to lower class more
Nothing wrong with working a 9-5, the issue IMO comes when people are comfortable with working a 9-5 for their entire lives & retire with their 401k. Work a 9-5, take better opportunities for more money when possible & start investing in other forms of income. Buy a few rental properties, open a self-directed IRA, diversify your investment portfolio & start planning an exit strategy from a 9-5 lifestyle.
a wonderful advice, especially for young people. As a 9-5 worker I couldn't agree more.
She is assuming that her job will never terminate her either people get wayyy too comfortable with employers lol I hold no loyalty and have made massive increases for career moves going to be working on my own business now it’s time!
@@Josh-py9rq my bet is they'll terminate her in 2-3 years time.
Went from working (software engineering) in an office making $115k to now now making $300k working from my apartment doing 2 contracts. Could care less about being around people and their bs culture. It’s all been about “celebrating ______”... whatever grievance group gets their month... at home I don’t have to put up with this crap.
Really been enjoying your content. thinking about starting my own side business while working in the corporate world. all in hopes to never work the corporate world again!
Keep up the great work!
Being self-employed is the best reward anybody can give themselves
I would be able to do all of this is a 9-1. 4 hour workday is better
I had emergency surgery years ago. My "benefits" billed me $15K.
Never really interacted with my dad since he always had the 9-5 with 1.5 hour commutes (one way). He finally quit, but that lifestyle creep already set in with the rest of the family. Whenever I see posted family photos of them in restaurants/movies, he always looks sad and unhappy knowing he has to pay for everything.
Great questioning Joshua Fluke! I feel so glad that you create videos with this type of questioning. Our society needs bigger doses of this type of content because, I dare say, most people are so comfortably numb and don't see at all how oppressive and ridiculous the system under which we live is: "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Preach it, advsonhere!
Your points are valid, but if she (or anyone else for that matter) wants the structure of a corporate life, they are free to live in that world. There are many (myself included) who know how the game is played as Josh outlines, but are just collecting the checks and biding our time until a less disruptive exit is possible. Just biting the bullet for a little while longer in the corporate matrix.
Unfortunately we have way easier than a lot of other countries especially in Asian counties where they can’t even leave work until the CEO decides to leave. Also China promoting the 996 work culture which is why South Korea and Japan have some of the highest suicides and death by overwork in the world. I feel sorry for them.
A lot of corporations love hiring new college grads for this reason. Young and naive. I'm also the child of immigrants so I had no one to tell me otherwise. But I'm naturally skeptical so I've never fully drank the kool-aid at any job. I just go for the perks. No loyalty to them. I try to mentor my 20-something colleagues.
She sounds like she’s in the honeymoon effect of having a job. Once reality sets in, I will see her posting a video along the lines of “Why I left my corporate job to follow my dreams”
She probably has multiple men workmates that are so fond of her because she is young. Once her beauty fades she will realize that she really does not want to be there.
@@amateruss Yeah once she hits the wall, the simps will treat her differently and it will further push her away from having an actual job and being
I work in a team of 10 people at Deloitte and 5 are women. Me and another guy in the team do the work of 10 people. I can't even quit cause I need work experience as I'm fresh out of college
@@ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018 Crazy. I always judge on an individual basis as I know some females that work hard and are good at what they do…but the overwhelming majority would rather chat/not work in my experience. And some of the guys too though. In general, a lot of people are doing just enough not to get fired.
@@Barbwire710 from experince the woman love to gossip or complain that they don’t want to do some work but the men never complain or gossip and the ladies always call the men to do the hard work.
You are brilliant Joshua. Enjouy your opinuons , etc. Love your channel. 🇺🇸🙏👌
Omg! From 12:50 - 13:02 …. Couldn’t agree with you more. I’m so glad somebody finally mentioned that! I’ve been thinking that for soooo many years.
I am actually a "Non Exempt" salary employee. I get my guaranteed weekly salary plus 1.5 the hourly rate if I work over 40. Pretty sweet. So that really helps, but also too many hours can suck.
I have had a few corporate jobs and a couple I did actually like- and for different reasons- but it only took one for me to not want to be in the labor force anymore
I'm glad you made that channel, more than making me laugh, it explains all the BS I've experienced as an employee. I been only working two years for two different customer support companies but the amount of nonsense I been through was through the roof.
Very nice video. And it was respectful, bravo.
"People value their time" I strongly agree.
Everything Josh talks about I have learned the hard way.
A new Josh video!
Here I am again, watching, agreeing with what you say, and yet I still can't figure out the part to make things go around by doing something useful.
It's both a funny and a sad loop I live in.
Still, a good watch, maybe one day it'll come to me :)
She must have gone from flipping burgers, and going to college and this is her first real job…. Sometimes it takes a few years to burn out and realize how much the 9-5 grind is killing you.
A 9 to 5 job is good! It's when they ask you to stay after 5, that things start going downhill.
That's one thing. Also usually the pay is barely enough to keep you away from property. ( a bit exaggerating) you got the idea lol
Joshua Love the content just Subscribed I was going to tell you that I like my Job for now I haven't experienced anything like what is described in your videos so I am truly Blessed.
Thank You for your hard work
Love your videos! Keep going!
I want to retire early, but retirement for me will be switching from working in tech to being in real estate and investing in my stock portfolio. I already live extremely minimal, so hopefully, I can achieve this in the next 10 years.
I think it depends. Being in a low stake job that also gives u opportunities to try things and experiment.
There are things that u have to be on the ground to develop. As long as u feel that u are adding to your value as employer with some reasonable boundaries u are ok.
This was very nicely debated. No naming, shaming, flaming etc....just arguments and counter arguments. Keep it up :)
5:10 hey I actually agree with that. I worked at an auto parts store which I learned about cars while getting paid which allowed me to also do car repairs on the side for money and start a mobile detailing business
Thanks for the video! I also love my 9-5, but mainly because it's super flexible and not entirely a 9-5! But with a wife and two kids, I really need that "secure" paycheck and health benefits :)
She loved her job and hasn't posted a video in over a year even though she was doing great on TH-cam
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Dude this video is FIRE 🔥
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i really dont know what/where the idea of planning around a specific area comes from in this but ultimately yea this isnt a pile of money youre eating away at its passive income and otter cashflow.. like I'm going to plan around vanlife to start and eventually a home base and networking and community building and.. ultimately I never have a plan to "stop working" just to not work for table scraps you're compensated by a company for an undervaluation of your work.
No diss, but she sounds young & "bright eyed". When I graduated I was so excited about health insurance, "endless" opportunities & working however long: 50-55 hrs a week as a salaried employee. Now?! I got a 100% remote job, don't care about titles, and just want the $ to pay the bills, insurance, food, etc. for as long as i'm employed. Sorry sweetheart, but there's no such thing as a stable job. Mentorship? Um, you have to find someone who wants to give you advice/help! I never got any help, had to figure out ething on my own!! Mentorship🙄. Also 401k plans, yeah it's nice to get matched but wait til you're 59.5 yrs old, that high a$$ distribution tax won't make you feel so lucky! And you better hope the mkt doesn't crash (again) bc your balance will go down! 📉Keep livin' young lady, your views will change.
Some of her motivation comes through in her worries about retiring on a fixed income. I read that as: She wants to quit as soon as possible and probably never picking up what she does (or any other occupation) ever again. I mean, that's not abnormal. But it also tells me that she's not really into what she does. I don't blame her. Quite a bit of Office Space make-work out there, and a lot of the corporate tightening of screws over the years could make most anything unenjoyable, whether it's one's passion or something benign.
It takes time to develop SOLID depth/substance inorder to create a STRONG foundation. U need to through a rejections, failings and humiliation to create a successful one!
I am currently thinking about quitting my job. The amount of work is steadily increasing while the company refuses to either pay me more or hire someone else to fix the understaffing problem.
I have to attend meetings outside of my work hours that I am not paid for. They have also asked people to come in during their off time to work for free due to bad planning.
I am a hard worker and I take pride in my work but I will not work for free or consistently overwork myself so a company can squeeze as much profit from me as possible.
I will look into working from home or being Self-Employed, I don't want to go through this again.
I actually like my 9 to 5, but it’s pretty much solely because my manager actually seeks employees opinions before making huge changes, advocates for pay raises for us when he believes we deserve it and actually tries really hard to get employees that are falling behind to get back I track in. The only reason he still had his job is that our branch continues to bring in the highest profit out of all other departments and on average we work the least. It shows that if you treat your employees like they are worth the work they put in they will try harder. When employees know they can get rewarded for going above and beyond sometimes they will.
I think you're both partly right. There's no such thing as a completely risk-free situation, but having a job provides a *relatively* stable income, which will pay the bills and hopefully let you build up some savings. But there's absolutely no reason not to also have a part-time business and/or some investments outside the job, as long as one doesn't interfere with the other. If your part-time hustle develops into something that can make you a full-time living, great. If not, you've still got the job to support you. This is probably the optimum course of action for a lot of people.
Most people don't really like thinking, so obviously letting others do the thinking makes the future less scary. But for me ignoring the risks, doesn't equal risk-free or near risk-free.
Would be interested seeing you react to Roberto Blake's video on the Great Resignation and the truths about self-employment
I just subscribed to your video and really enjoy your content. This video really hit home for me I’m currently working a 9 to 5 job but I’m also trying to get a job in my field which is programming. I Love structure but I’m working to get to the point where I can control my scheduale and be able to do things I enjoy. Thank you for your input and sharing your on experiences and knowledge.
The only "security" you got in life is death. Grim but that's the reality.The rest is a matter of adapting and trying to get the best of the particular situation.
Death and taxes, excellent quote though, especially that adapting part
there was a guy that was working where I worked for 15 years and the boss fired him...together with two more people for not the same reason. Boss was actually downsizing and he let go a bunch of people. My colleague was fired one day before his summer vacations would start.
I love my remote job that I work when I work... it's for a company but as long as I get my stuff done it's good. They don't keep track of my hours / day.
Tbh I agree with what most people are saying that she is just a beginner and her outlook will certainly change as she gains more experience
So yea corporate job does one thing and one thing only, sucking the life out of you as much as they can, and paying you as little as they can in exchange. Most corporate do anyways
Her video shows how bad a 9-5 really is. The 9-5 is not only controlling your time but also your thoughts. She has to convince herself that a 9-5 is good because she has no other option.
I doubt she would say the same thing if she was in a wealthy family or married to a wealthy spouse
The value she talks about being part of corporate can be found in any summer job you’ve done in high school or college. There’s really nothing a job teaches you apart from this.
Besides this, I see no benefits other than money. While you need money, these jobs sap your life to the point where you can’t enjoy your money.
Most of these people who “love” corporate and their jobs always want to retire early. I wonder why.
depends on the 9 to 5 and the country you work in . i moved from being a projectionist to a "9to5" in the NHS where i rediscovered the joy of weekends off and bank holidays and better pay
There is a stable salary in certain things. Certain government and public sector jobs with tenure are petty stable. Sure there are other toxic elements but if income or salary stability is your number one goal then getting trying to get one of these is an option.
About the sleep pod. It actually depends, I know someone who rented a relatively cheap shared room and only use it to sleep on weekends. She usually sleeps in the office because of the free AC and only goes back to take a bath before starting her office work.
That's so depressing
thats feel terrible
I feel like on TH-cam everyone is promoting having an own business and working as an employee is like a huge personal failure and an absolute nightmare, but in reality its just way easier and in most cases better paid 😂 most people don't have an idea how much work it is to have an own business. And most are not even able to run a business. For the majority of the people it is easier to just have a job, go to work, do their stuff and that's it. It's less work, less headache and in many many cases even more money at the same time. Of course there are few people that have an business, work 1 hour a day and make 1 million a year. But guess what. That's 0,00001% of the business owners 😂
THANK YOU
I was thinking just that.
The problem with youtubers who talk about leaving their 9 to 5 is that they left it to be ... wel, youtubers.
But not everyone wants to be an youtuber.
I dont love my corporate job, but I like it. It's better than the jobs I had before. And I wouldnt try to find it in me to create my own business just for the sake of 'beeing my own boss'.
Yep. Don't get me wrong, the bussiness people have some good message but it not for me. You can call me a slave or whatever and I'm just gonna live a quiet peaceful life.
Honestly, I feel like the best advice is "find what works for you."
Everyone is different so people should be open to experimenting and pursuing different options to find what they like. Some people what to be entrepreneurs and that's fine. Some people just want something that'll pay the bills and that's fine. We all just have to find that which works for us.
Josh, no hate here. Just wanted to let you know to talk through the logo of your yeti, not the top lmao
love the vids man, im 19 and just beginning my corporate butthole gaping, been watching you for years and love the content. Planning on starting up my own company after a couple years of experience!
youre so honest and caring
9:19
Fuckin hell!
That's gold! Haven't laughed that hard in what's gotta be about 6 months!
Wtf? I left college feeling like an entirely different person. The methods, and best-practices they transferred into my brain have operated on auto-pilot ever since. The difference between a degree in management, and one in molecular biology is obviously even greater than I thought. Then she started listing her reasons, and it was like looking into the abyss. Bet she makes twice what I do... I love this country so much.
I’m sitting here on New Year’s Day getting ready to head back to my 9-5 corporate job tomorrow and the dread is overwhelming. Back to the hamster wheel!