Electrical Nightmares! THREE of the Worst Wiring Problems I’ve EVER Seen
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- Electrical and wiring problems in a car can feel like you're living in a nightmare. I have three vehicles in my shop that have VERY serious and complex wiring problems. You won't believe how bad they are. ➡️ Don't forget to check out @MrsWizardsWays and her great content.
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$3 - 4K is cheap for all that! Can you imagine what a Land Rover dealership would have charged for that?
Dealer likely would’ve refused the job on sight
You'd need a lean against your house... And they'd still be incapable of getting it done.
Cheaper buying new
@@thundabawlt8547 that’s assuming new is available for a 24 year old vehicle.
One Milllion dollars …..
Best thing about Land Rover is there’s lots and lots and lots of them in junkyards, many with less than 80,000 miles. Can easily get parts and get your LR up and running for a few hundred miles until it breaks down again.
Land Rovers and reliability don't go togeather., but they do learn you how to fix them!
Hey, now, it'll go at least 1000 miles before it breaks down again. Maybe even 1500! (I used to work on them; you aren't wrong when it comes to the older ones.)
The newer ones are even worse! at least you don't need a code reader to fix the older ones.@@CharlieFoxtrot06
@@CharlieFoxtrot06 1500!…..hey man, don’t be getting all crazy on us now.
@@risinbison1106 1500 miles between mechanical issues is a rarity with old LRs, but some of them managed it. Those were usually built on a Wednesday or Thursday, when the staff were relatively sober.
Death, taxes, and Land Rover electrical problems.
Omg that’s awesome
Yawn, so predictable, most of these problems are created by hack merchants with no clue.
Wait-a-minute -- it's "taxes," Land Rover wiring, Grimms' sanity and, then, finally, death💀😮😢😅
@@jabberwockytdi8901Living in denial, or just plain ignorant - which of these do you suffer from?
@@johna1160 Land Rover and Dodge Hemi fanboys are so similar. Such an odd pairing, but there it is. I mean the 2 fastest depreciating machines on the planet yet you guys think the rest of us are making all of this up about the nightmares of owning this junk. Depreciation rates always speak the truth, always. I don’t care about 1,3 or even 5 year…I’m talking about 10 years out…these things are almost worthless. There’s a reason folks.
Land Rover… turning owners into mechanics for over 70 years. 😎
Cheers from a Land Rover enthusiast! 🇺🇸🇬🇧
They do have a devoted following in spite of their inherent issues and becoming quite collectible.
1970s military Land Rovers can be made to be quite reliable
@@glennbeadshaw727 that's because the military needs reliability, if it isn't reliable then the military wouldn't use it, consumers can get trapped in it
They are reliable, just needy maintenance wise from what I gather.
I own a 1966 Triumph Bonneville. One thing I have heard over and over again is that the rider of a British bike is either a mechanic, or will soon become one, possibly in the next few minutes. Lucas electrics and Amal carburetors. They are really not as bad as people make them out to be.
I'm grateful to still have a simple 1980 Ford F-150 shortbed with an inline 300, cheap to keep.
I LOVE the 300-6! You’re so lucky! What a great, indestructible engine it is!
My best friend owned just such a truck and absolutely loved it! The darn thing did everything he needed or wanted it to do, and it never failed him! Five pickups and three SUVs later he still kicks himself, as does his wife, for trading that '80 F-150 in for the first of the new trucks in 2013!
Amen, still daily driving my 89 f150 lariat with the 300 and 5 speed manual with 91k miles
The 300 straight 6 was so good Thay quit making it
That 300 will never die, it is likely good for at least 15-20 years with little maintenance
Working on a fire department. We sent out an engine to have it's wiring redone. After the engine returned and was put back into service, it started to have an issue. When we returned from the call, we got ready to see just what the problem was. Only to find out that the company that did the er-wire.....used white wire....for the entire engine. From bumper to bumper. Chief was not a happy camper.
Ford in now using all black. No more color coded, they want you to use diagrams and pin outs.
Holy crap! No way to trace anything... Was it at least labeled at the ends?
@@volvo09 That would of been easy. But nope. it was not. In fact the only thing that was not touched was the light bar on top of the engine. LOL ...memories.
😭
Don’t send your re works to Mexico 😂
I have a 1993 500SEL that had the biodegradable wiring harness problem, I paid the $3k for replacement, and now have eliminated that well known problem. A fantastic sedan, it was worth fixing. I agree the Land Rover owner got a good value for what Grimes did, and he clearly likes his LR compared to something else on the market. That particular model has a nice high ceiling interior, unlike the newer LRs.
Grimes is really showing his worth he's a great employee. You should keep him around as long as you can
I found a Bridged Fuse in a used car I purchased and immediately changed the fuse and have not had any problems since, Now I know why the former owner jumped at the first low ball offer I made . It's a good thing I checked the car from top to bottom after wondering why I got such a screaming deal !
Good Job on Completing the Wiring Fiasco on the Land Rover Grimes 👍🏻
This is exactly why cars should be made as simply as possible. The cure for this was supposed to be the canBUS system, reducing the amount of wiring, but this just increases the complexity when wiring problems inevitably arrive, requiring special tools, knowledge, and procedures to repair. It's only going to get worse as more electric cars hit the road.
I first heard of the CANbus from DiagnoseDan. It seems it has caused havoc in many a shop. Where do all these idiotic ideas even come from? Idiotic engineers who have "new" ideas. I'm sick of new ideas. I'm still trying to deal with old ones.
@@alext8828they come from insurance companies. CANBUS allows the vehicle to monitor what parts in it (things like clusters now have electronic serial numbers do you can't just swap in a new one)
It's very simple to explain, actually. Car manufacturers wanted to build cars with less wiring (to save money), but had to provide all the "luxury" and tech features that the public (or somebody) wanted, but that would need tons of analog wires. In the 21st century, the answer was to hook EVERYTHING, the stereo, the heater and AC, the power door locks, etc. into one one bus line, controlled by a "computer". Voila; the CAN system, or controlled area network. Now, if you disconnect any part of the sensors, the system will freak out and could possibly shut the whole car down because of a dirty tail-lamp socket. It's a failed strategy, because you have to rebuild the whole system in case of one part failure. The telephone companies understood this and built their systems to be, basically, foolproof.
@@ianmontgomery7534 If you raise the price of an insured repair, the insurance companies lose more money. Making repairs easier would be the way to go.
@@themagus5906 That's the best explanation I've heard. I actually understood it. Armed with that new knowledge, I might be able to track down a parasitic draw in my gen 2 Prius. I guess. Thank you.
My brother and I live in a semi-rural area, and last year we had some serious rainfall in No CA. He had just traded in his 2008 Toyota Taco pickup (great truck) for a brand new one. A few weeks into owning the new truck, he goes to start it up and every light on the panel goes bananas. Turns out, rats had sought shelter in the engine compartment and had eaten large parts of the wiring. His insurance co wanted to total the truck, it has less than 500 miles on it. Local dealer wanted $13K, he found a distant Toyo dealer who did it for (I think $8K) This ain't no '65 Chevy, wiring on a 21st century vehicle can be incredibly complicated.
The ghost of Joseph Lucas never sleeps - even in the dark ;-)
You guys are killing me….yeeeesssss
In the case of the Land Rover, the said ghost was entrapped in the LR owner's body.
EVEN in the dark?? Lucas WAS the prince of darkness...
@@marko7843 omg ha!!
When the car is up on the hoist, all the wiring is over my head. :D
You are lucky to have a guy like tyler that has the talent to do that work. Those guys a few and far between.
Something you have to note.
If you want to run more amps, you have to have thicker wires.
I use to work at a smelter that produced aluminum.
The wire used to feed current to convert bauxite to aluminum wasn't wire. It was several inch thick layers that were big enough to fill a crawl vent. The amps were under 200k.
That is enough to make steel rods explode instantly if used to bridge to ground.
200,000 amps! 😳😬
@@connor3288 We were producing tons of aluminum daily. We had to swap anodes every day. Each anode would last for 24 days before they needed to be replaced. We had to extract aluminum every 2 days. We had to keep things running a certain way to get the most out of the process. Alcoa has some videos of the pot lines.
If you cant take a joke, don't buy a Range Rover.
Exactly. Total JUNK
Amen 🙏
Land cruiser is the better rover
Too bad this isn’t a range rover
They've always been a nightmare for long term ownership. If the rust and aluminum corrosion didn't get you, everything else would.
Had mice crawl up in my Volvo C30 and chewed everything up, Similar situation. but fixed it myself.I'm a DIY god. 😅
A Land Rover, with electrical issues?! How unheard of!
They made the mistake of letting all the blue smoke escape!
Hey, I wanted to say that but you beat me too it.
Caused entirely by the owner.
$4 grand for the amount of work involved is amazing Wizard, that amount of melted wire that you showed is a nightmare, the customer should be very happy with your and Grimes’ effort. Well done, so many people would have just scrapped the vehicle, good to see you and the customer keeping that beauty on the road
I used to work very close to an independent Landrover/Jaguar mechanic..was like an operating theatre in the workshop, every bay was always full! Never out of work. LR trash.
What do you drive?
@@petrosaguilar8916 Now? On my second P2 V70, 165K and pulls like a train, it all works, had to replace a wheel bearing and A/C compressor, other than oil changes and replacing vac hoses, that's it. Had Saabs (two 9000's, Beautiful cars) including a Carlsson CD 2.0-rare, and a total crap 9/3) a couple of Fords, Mercedes C class, nicely thought out and nearly as comfortable as the 9000's and V70's. Driven loads of different cars and vans. BMW's nice to drive, but wouldn't own one.
The amount of patients and organization involved in that is mind blowing,hats off
DC is fun!! My Ford turning on wipers when I went into AWD. Turned out to be a short in the transfer case.
Having worked in electronics all my life, the one thing you learn very early is that fitting
a higher rating of fuse will only make matters worse.
In other words, you don't find the fault by causing a fire!
If a Fuse blows on my car, I replace with the same amperage. If it blows twice, then investigate by tracing and uncoupling components one by one. A Test Meter always helps to find shorts.
That is the correct way to do it, but some people will try replacing a fuse with anything that will
conduct electricity, then leave the burnt out wiring for someone else to repair.@@peterduxbury927
Actually with the higher fuse installed.and watching closely..the initial smoke will direct you to the fault quickly.lol.then pull the fuse
Doing that will only narrow down the fault, far better to use a multimeter on the ohms range
and save having to repair the damage.@@kurtjammer9568
I agree. When my truck needed a heater control cable. I told my mechanic to change the heater core and the blower motor. And anything else he sees. I trust him. I’ve going to him for years.
My stepsister drove a Disco for years. She loved it. Her husband hated it.
In Australia we have a saying. If you want to go bush, buy a Land Rover. If you want to get back again, take a Landcruiser.
Yaaaa a new wizard video 🇬🇧
Electrical work is always the most impressive to me. To be able to reverse-engineer what insanity the manufacturer did is incredible. Well done, Omega.
It’s a D2, surprised it didn’t have the 3 Amigos light on. They look great, just not the best in my opinion.
It does. Bad wheel speed sensor left rear.
Grimes has excellent vocational discipline.
Putting the wrong-rating fuse is like putting out a candle with a grande. Yes, the candle will no longer be burning.. but it also won't exist in it's original form along with everything around it..
I presume you meant to write "grenade" rather than grande?
Was the 500 SL made during the time of the "biodegradable wiring" which I've been told was extra munchy for rodents.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster will bless you with its Noodly appendages
You guys are magicians! Thanks for your great patience & honesty!
Have you noticed how close you are to getting 1 million subscribers?
Wizard is full of passion for his work 👍🏻
@@gentletam2099 Mrs Wizard deserves credit too. The production values are excellent, and she has a great sense of humour.
Bless you Wizard for tackling these wiring issues.
Car sparks are a special breed when confronted with fault finding. I remember when we had a car brought into us( main dealership) bc no garage could find the fault. It turned out to be the obvious fuse. However,not detected bc when using a test probe it made the broken fuse connect. When in fact it was dead
Lucas the Prince of Darkness Lives! 😅
I started my career as a mechanic in the rover dealership.... It has taken time to learn how to work with these new type of vehicles but for any young people starting out don't be discouraged as in time this will all make sense, and the knowledge is quite rewarding as most people can't do that.
Come on 1 million!
great video explaining the reason for fuses in cars!
The way you talk about taking care of and treating your customers right. Makes me wish I was a parts guy at your shop instead of where I am at now
I really enjoy your videos Wizard, and Mrs Wizard, take care. 😊😊😊😊🇬🇧👍🏻
Reminds of a joke my granddad used to tell... Why do the British like warm beer?
Because Lucas makes refrigerators too 😂
Thing is, he was a Jaaaaag man too, had an XJ12 when I was a little kid. Guess it was his way of dealing with deep seeded trauma. His other way was buying a Lexus when the LS was released.
Lucas has not made any car parts for about 50 years LOL
@@Efferpheasants Grandad was born in the 1930s... So you can see why the joke was relevant to his time and frame of reference.
Also... It's a joke, liberties and leeways are to be expected.
Geez you must be fun at parties
@@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 I understand that that is why my comment ended with an LOL.
Great video 😮
This episode is in the Pantheon of best, public service announcements, ever. Respect them thar fuses. Thanks Wizard!
I had a friend years ago that was driving a 1954 Chevy pickup. Her husband had replaced a fuse with a 22 bullet. It heated up and blew the “fuse” and shot her in the leg. This was about 50 years ago. He learned a hard lesson, she forgave him, and they stayed married.
Kudos to you guys for accepting such a nightmare of jobs. Saved some nice vehicles as well.
When I had a Saturday job as an apprentice car mechanic I was asked to rewire a tractor with a molten loom.
I had to follow and replace each and every wire. I the end I got it running again. So I know what damage can be done by short cicuit.😮
Great work grimes that must have been a headache of a job
It was a bit tedious. 😅
Scanner Danner for the win!❤️ Thank you Paul!
You’re the best!
Diluted Clorox sprayed on the garage floor, and dark mice corners, is effective.
Wanted to be an ase technician when i was in highschool. Then I saw eletrical monstrosities that can happen in cars. After that I realized that maybe that lifestyle wouldn't be for me😅
I had the dash out to do a heater on a freelander 1, turns out the heated seat plug and rear window plug are the same fitting, kept blowing the parking light fuse, could have fitted a big fuse but solving the real problem and fixing my own mistake was much more satisfying and the right way to do it
Low voltage damage, bolt on battery cable ends, over fusing or just wrap some foil around that blown fuse. Scotchlocks too.
I have heard several stories of those Land and Range Rovers burning up their wiring... even if not tampered with. My ex teacher had scars from having to rip burning wiring from under his dash before there was a fire :)
That biodegradable wiring fiasco in the early 90s MBZ caused a lot of headaches. I was offered a great deal on a low mileage 320E from that era several years ago. Would have taken it but another guy had tried to fix it and made a total mess. Lovely car that ended up in a junkyard. Those cars have excellent powertrains and some of the best body work ever. The small bore v8's were especially nice to drive....
Brings back memories, a brand new Toyota Camry I think. My company was installing aftermarket air conditioning into this brand new car and the wiring was slightly different from the previous year and we did what we thought was correct. It was not! Wire fire ensued and we had to tear it down much like what you did to that Land Rover, and we had to find the burnt wires, fix them, and return it back to unmolested condition overnight in addition to finding out what originally went wrong and correcting it to make our installation work. We went on to inform the aftermarket air conditioning kit provider with instructions on how to do the year change upgrade. That was only about 45 years ago. 🍁
One thing that's so cool about old cars is you don't have that problem. They have a tenth of the wiring that new cars have, all of it but the secondary ignition system is 12V, there are no computers, it's so simple. I have never had any issues working on the wiring on my 1972 Ford Pinto wagon. It doesn't even have a heater or A/C. It does have an 8 track player, an amp, and speakers that I installed. The player and amp are connected directly the battery with a fussed wire. It still has breaker points ignition. No electronics. The only issue I had was having to remove the drivers seat to replace a brake light switch, because at 6' 240, I didn't fit under there. Newer cars are an absolute nightmare.
Great video 👍 The customer needs to be educated on why using a proper fuse is so vital 😊
Well done Grimes for tackling that Land Rover wiring repair! Definitely not a job for the faint of heart! I saw the characteristic water stained headliner in the Land Rover too! Ask me how I know about that! Ha Ha!
For rewring a car i love those dymo shrinktube that caan be prited with the labelprinter.
feel your pain, or THE pain. Bought a 76 MG...2 owners ago it was vandalized..the harness cut in many places. I bought it as an abandoned project - he got it running with inline fuses instead of the fuse box...
i since got lights back, turnsignals. I pulled the center console (radio, cig lighter, hazard switch) and got the turn signals working but lost dash lights. Oh what fun it is.
Found many wiring diagrams...but none are an exact match to my car.
Someone didn't hook the reverse light switch up on the trans..the cut the wire 1" long...and to get the trans out you gotta pull the whole engine out...small cars have no room for normal sized hands!
Wipers don't work...still working on wiring/motor/age in general or the switch. Emmissions were pulled off, many wires under the hood aren't connected to anything...heater and fan works though!
One wire, one circuit at a time and patience.
and please don't let me go colorblind!
My last employment was as an aviation electrician for Bristol Aerospace. Anytime I see someone willing to tackle a job like this one, wire by wire after a meltdown this big, it makes me cringe. You must have a lot of confidence in your own abilities to tackle such a job, when the logical choice is to replace the entire harness. Especially with so many data requirements. Most shops would refuse if the owner wasn't willing to spring for an OEM replacement.
not so bad if you have a circuit diagram
Rewiring is fun. Just match-up the colors on the different wires and you'll be OK!
You must be extremely old! Or is that not the Bristol Aerospace that was once based in Filton?
@@cambridgemart2075 Bristol Aerospace of Winnipeg Manitoba Canada. Now known as Magellan Aerospace. Started in 1930. Was a major aircraft overhaul facility beginning in WW2 then branched into building rockets and subcontracting for companies like Boeing and Lockheed. I worked on the Northrop CF-5 upgrade program in the early 90's. Converting the single and 2 seat fighter into a primary trainer for the CF-18.
The Allison transmission having its own control box makes sense. That same transmission was used in multiple medium duty trucks, Ford, International, GM, Freightliner, Hino, Isuzu, etc. All of them had different wiring, different engines, some gas V8's, some diesels, the electronics on the Allison had to be plug and play.
I anxiously await seeing how you get the hood to close on the Silverado. It looks like it may be a challenge.
I used to rebuild harnesses on the kitchen table with a beer and a wiring diagram..then go install them in the field..easier then finding a short.
This is one of my biggest bugbears when restoring cars people do not replace the 40+ year old harness and then wonder why their very expensive restoration went up in flames
Props to Grimes for the patience and the nerves to rebuild the existing wiring harness vs full replacement.
I'm curious though. The new harness from dealer being five racks is not a surprise. Land Rover money means Land Rover parts prices.
But was there really no salvaged but good wiring harness available at reasonable cost? Or is this some rare edition with a different harness layout?
As it is, I would seriously hate to imagine this customer getting some new electrical problem three months later and calling the wizard with "dude wtf, I thought you guys fixed it???"
If it’s a wiring problem it’s always a nightmare
Another excellent video presentation. Has the wizard ever made a video on the toughest automatic transmission ? Some of us are elderly with bad knees, and I'm also lazy.
Hey Wizard.. that SL500 burned our shop trying to figure out what's wrong with it.. literally burnt us alive.. so we had a 94 95 split year which makes the worse of them all.. they didnt use a obd scanner but rather than a Mercedes scan tool.. long story short.. the car was misfiring once the engine gets hot.. we thought it was the throttle body since its part of mass airflow.. change the caps and wires.. no change.. check everything but back to square one.. we gave up and gave it to benz specialist and knew right away these POS is common with bad ignition switch module was causing a voltage drop in everything...
i cant wait for some xj12 nova vids
That LR would have gone to the nearest shredder. If they didn't reject it. I added MAF to a 1988 Mustang GT in 1989 with junkyard parts and nothing but a wiring diagram. "Experts" said it was impossible. Turned out to be super simple back then.
DRYER SHEETS WORK GREAT.
Yes, mice will attack a grain truck no matter what you do.
Your a damn good mechanic saying replace heater core now thats smart thinking how I would do it.
My Toyota never had electric problems. Can't imagine this RR being so much greater then a 4 runner from the same time period.
I’m a home health nurse and one of my patients had a Toyota Sienna van and a rat chewed up the wiring. It can happen to any vehicle.
I loved my Land Rover Disco 2...brilliant car, but suffered with rust! I had a similar issue with a Citroen BX, but not as bad, smoke coming from under the dash..luckily it was an easy fix.
Almost at a million subs wizard !
I used to do wiring, LS swaps, full vehicle harnesses in classic cars and such. It's all true, lots and lots of time in that stuff. On the Duramax ECU, you could probably mount that ECU right where the original ECU went and just pin the cruise, tach, etc wires from the original ECU connectors into the new ECU. Looks like the same connector, they're very easy to work with.
Bullet as fuse, gosh that doesn't sound dangerous at all.
Woos? Woes*
I need to actively seek out cars with these problems.
Wizard was touched by the flying spaghetti monster's noodley appendage!
I have a 17 year old car that's still running just great, but I have had some quirky electrical issues with the windows that began to happen 5 years ago. And what I came to discover was that the wire insulation had begun to stiffen and then crack. The wires were luckily not in the path of moisture, but over time the sharp hard edges of the broken insulation put pressure on the wire filaments, breaking them gradually over time. Eventually enough filaments are severed to weaken the current, causing malfunctions. And sometimes they'd go away if the wire filaments managed to align right (happenstance of door opening/closing). I eventually tracked it down and repaired the damaged wires. The culprit? Someone cut corners on the plastic insulation of the wiring. I can only imagine if this car experienced extreme heat and cold in some regions, accelerating the problem!
Its almost like fuses have a purpose.
Sounds like a 1973 Cadillac Sedan DeVille my parents bought from some friends of the family-ran great, & the only paid 300.00 for it-for starters, outside of 3 spots on the body, you could have lifted it off with no problems-wasn't until my mother forgot & it the trunk pop in the glove box-car went totally nuts-lights on & off, door pops up & down, radio on & off, power antenna up & down-everything going off except the trunk-took us 3 days to rewire the car
Wow, I never knew that Mercedes made custom rat-food wiring insulation! I wonder how long that car was parked?
On the other hand, I love that diesel conversion wiring harness!
On the Land Rover, I think they should have jacked up the keys and driven another Land Rover under them... 😉
Wish you all where closer to Chicago, i would love for you all to solve my jaguar x type electrical problems
Lucas loom smoke, genuine part
Love the duramax conversion. I wonder if doing something similar on a Ford, is as doable. There's alot of support for chevys.
Went into a Kia dealership doing some service work on their pressure washer about 15 years ago. They had about 7 Kia sedonas right off the hauler getting new wire harnesses. Apparently at the factory during final assembly, the wire looms were getting screwed into installing the interior panels. Somehow they passed final qc checks, But shorted out and melted wiring insulation almost causing a couple fires moving them into the detail bay. I never found out why the fuses didn’t just blow, but I have been leery of Kia’s ever since.
My MOS in the military was to rewire trucks and generators. 🇺🇸
The insulation on the underside of the Mercedes is also shredded.
How ever much you're paying Grimes, it is not enough!
Get Cats for mice. The best thing for my car mice issues. Also propping up the hood helps.
Have found peppermint oil is good at detouring mice, even NHOU uses it in some of their undercoating spray. I put some on cotton balls and put them in the glove box and other places around the motor, but it has to be done once a month.
Peppermint oil works great to repel nice
Wiring problems were my worst nightmare in all my years of wrenching