The Most Important Question in Linux: Extensibility
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ต.ค. 2020
- We learn what it means to be EXTENSIBLE! A plain text file is much more powerful than any other kind of file: it works with any program and can do whatever you want it to.
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>imaging using text to store data instead of oral tradition.
yikes
Imagine storing data in ASCII instead of a proprietary binary.
> Communicating ideas through the sensory functions of material human bodies
> Not experiencing the Logos directly in an act of Gnosis
The Demiurge sure did a number on us.
@@mattb154 >demiurge
Please refer to the Architect by His proper name.
Even if you wish to leave the 7th sphere, the Dweller on the Threshold will be there, waiting for you, gnostic.
@@shaurz Real real men use shannon fano elias encoding books(markov chains of order 20) into a single 1M-bit word.
>image not storing ur data in structured water and modulating via the schumann resonances
cringe.
never going to make it
The Chad "easierly" vs the virgin "more easily." When you're ABD in Linguistics, you can do these kinds of things.
you forgot the gigachad "easilier"
😂
I prefer 'Hardest Question in Programming' by Terry A. Davis.
Is this 🆖gerlicious or is it divine intellect?✝️
@@censoredterminalautism4073 That is the kind of question you face on the job when you work for God.
The Jewish Question.
*Insert gif of terry dancing*
fuck yeah. i love that vid a lot too
Look at how happy he is when typing commands to open his text files.
Blessed boomer :*
Luke is sound proofing the room like a real "content creator"
"It's a meme, but it's not a meme meme."
t. Luke Smith
> be Luke
> be a phd candidate in linguistic studies
> "easierly"
Luke, if you use grep and want to count words, stop piping in wc -l, grep has a count option. Just "grep -c -i spanish". You're welcome.
"Please stop piping into grep"
@@ludovicbedard7922 Please remind me where this Luke meme came from again.
@@djsigmann th-cam.com/video/82NBMvx6vFY/w-d-xo.html. Correction: Please stop catting into grep 🤣
@@ludovicbedard7922 thanks mate
@@djsigmann no problem
gui interface
yep
in visual basic so that you can find the killer.
When you said, you wrote that script on a roadtrip, I thought of you driving and having the notebook shotgun writing the script simultaneously.
"That's a total zoomer thing", haha
lmao
lol
pogchamp
lmao
"easierly" - Luke Smith, 2020
his a linguist, trust him
his write, dood
@@st0a ye das write my neetter
And recovering corrupted text files is trivial. Good luck trying recover your compressed OOXML-impossible-to-parse-correctly document.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Castilian, is in fact, GNU/Castilian, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Castilian. Castilian is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Old joke grow up man
You should really create some sort of 'recording mode' that starts terminal emulator windows with a larger font size by default.
That would actually be really easy to do
An example of extensibility, in Brazil we have a large set of rules that any academic document must follow, so a project called abntex build a extension that let's you build under this pre defined set of rules. College has never been so easy
i used groff to write my chemistry report, starting was a pain but got used to it really quick.
I had a girlfriend who said the same thing, just not about groff, if you know what I mean
>greps into wc -l instead of just doing grep -c
Absolute brainlet
At least he isn’t catting into grep. One step at a time.
I wish Luke would have talked about the editing experience by it self. Sure you have all the extensibility stuff, but the main advantage is that you usually work in distraction free software when editing plain text. Word distract you from your writing with all kinds of formatting and feel good stuff while you are actually thinking about what to write.
I would say the most important advantage of text-based docs is version control. For example, in git, we can see the diff between the commits with text-based docs, while non-text docs convert into binary files -"blobs".
I like to think the UNIX philosophy principle of extensibility as extreme orthogonality (as used to describe programming languages). That would mean that programs following the UNIX extensibility principle will be highly independent of each other in terms of they can do, whilst you being able to combine them to make use of much more complex functionality.
Your enthusiastic showcase of how you have a rich set of tools to operate on universal and transparent data (in your case text files) very much reminds me of my experience switching to Clojure a couple of years ago (and to this day I'm still loving it for this same reason).
That helps a lot. Thank you!
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When I started using linux a few years ago I followed all of luke's explanations and this is what allowed me to learn a lot about linux and what it was good or not to do .
If luke says to do something do it without asking questions.
Dude you should never take stuff without understanding, Not even from Luke, always go your way
This is exactly what Luke wouldn't want you to do.
No man is a god, no man knows it all. He simply shows tools that you can use, and it is up to you to decide if they are useful to you or worthwhile to use.
I'm surprised luke doesn't have a macro to increase terminal text size by now
But does size matter in the long run?
@@user-tm3fz7qx3s certainly helps readability on smaller devices
He does have a keyboard shortcut for it.
He does, infact every terminal has keybinds for thay
@@unixpert321 duh, but he presses it multiple times and that's inefficient!!!
Excellent Explanation - One of Your Best!
Very good explanation Luke, thank you.
While valid, and although I agree with it, this is a very weak argument.
A Unix-style workflow is built on the premise that I, the user, am in charge of managing and transforming my data, which is naturally expressed in the form of text files in various formats (files being persisted objects, as noted in that Plan9 fortune).
This is not a point of view that can be espoused by someone whose experience of interacting with computers has been one of sequential user actions. In this paradigm, it's my job as the user to push the mouse cursor onto the start menu, and then it's my job to click, and after that I *have* to click on the Excel icon, etc. In this model, the user is leading a call-and-response routine in which they can just about predict what the computer is going to do.
I contend that we are dealing with about 35 years' worth of damage done by industry vendors who've pushed that confusing model so hard for years.
I do not think explaining the merits of the Unix way is going to convince anyone who's been stunted by GUIs. However, I would suggest that there is great value in emphasising the similarity between the primacy of data encapsulation into files, and subsequently file processing and file management, and popular simulation video games.
Wow, another tedious internet comment that explains nothing. Why don't you make a video about it?
Yes, thinking of Unix as being similar to Factorio does help.
Independency and Performance are the main reasons.
And also you edit and see the source of your document not the preview version of the document.
You're lucky you get a good application for these tools with language as a background. There are tasks to be done with automation, the trouble is to think of them!
THANK YOU
As always, great video. Btw, which video editor do you recommend?
8:58
"easierly"
Thank you for making this. Now I can link this to people who don't understand the unix philosophy.
Just today I opened my friends eyes by showing him how markdown is so much better than his wordpad document and pdfs.
nice content ! made my day
Is this Luke's best video?
"easierly"
Cum Laude in Linguistics by the way. XD
If you are thinking about writing your academic papers with vim/latex but don't want to mess around with compiling scripts, check out this awesome software called Kile. It has built-in vim keybindings and an integrated dual view of the latex editing window and the pdf output. When you save your latex file, Kile compiles and updates the pdf view so you see the changes immediately. Additionally, the pdf view scrolls always to the same position where your cursor is in the latex file.
I thought about doing my bachelor thesis in LaTEX but we were obliged to send drafts to our adviser in *.docx format. And I don`t think someone ever heard about LaTEX in my class lol
So then there's LaTeX2docx :-)
I really enjoyed this video haha
This is some blessed content
"haha with no period, that's a classic" and this is the cherry on a cake!
I use vscode to make markdown to ebook, pdf,.. the best of both words
From your rsync video, how do you use the hostname for the remote computer like you did directly?
12:38 "Should I use VIM? Should I use ...... sed?" He was about to say EMACS!
I have a folder I can just put pdf articles into. A script can watch said folder for new files, convert pdfs to text, look up the DOI, get the citation info formatted in bib from a web API, put it in my references file and send me a desktop notification about it. If I wanted to I could auto generate a pdf with all references in a standardized format, sync said pdf across multiple devices, publish it on the web and so on. Learning to use Linux is like learning to cook instead of always ordering takeout.
Is there an established Groff/latex platform for doing Legal Briefs? I know that LateX macros are mostly for research documents and chemistry papers. There are strict formats for legal documents, but I haven't seen any thing that is a compilable structure for them.
Hey Luke can we read your thesis?
Search for "Undisentanglability"
@@shaunpatrick8345 thanks man 🙏
Default runescape character answers the age-old question: Will it Linux?
Problem with vowel rotation in the US versus the UK - I wondered what this "graph" thing was and then it dawned on me he must be talking about groff!
Luke, I appreciate your content. I'm a subscriber that hasn't managed to get through all your videos yet (but I'm trying). I have a question that I don't think you've talked about. In a previous video (may have been a livestream) you were belching and said something to the effect "sorry, I eat my meals in the evening (or afternoon)" and I was curious was there a reason behind that? Do you fast? For health or religious reasons? Just curious and wondered if you'd have a moment to answer when you can. Thanks and Linux-on, boomer :)
Awesome! A different question: What webcam do you use for your videos?
Can you do a video on how to automate things like compilation, like you briefly showed, in vim?
Luke can you share more about what you did with the Greek? How did your macro work short of being bilingual, I mean how did it know which Greek sentences went with which English sentences?
And you could do even more, if instead of all-text it would be beautiful typed data!
Then instead of `wc -l`ing the `grep` output you could take `length` of the list it returned. This would easily mitigate many script bugs and allow for even greater flexibility.
But then we get to the point when we try to replace `bash` with `ghci` and it simply is not suited for this use case. Either way, command line works great!
Btw, these uni directories…
I just started tracking mine with `git` (what could possibly go wrong with nested repositories!) and looks like I chose the exact same structure xD
>describing extensibility to beginners and not gate keeping with jargon
cringe
now i wanna learn to be more efficient like that.. its just a matter of practice, and muscle memory, to reach something like that
Hey, seeing as you like extensibility so much, you might like the extensible text editor emacs.
What CLI file explorer do you use?
Luke which program for Image editing you use?
There are any text editing video suite?
Hy luke , can you make video on your artix runit ? How you create services for runit ?
Pretty cool trick for interactive find and replace on multiple files using vim and grep:
`grep -Rl PATTERN | xargs -oL 1 vim -c "%s/PATTERN/REPLACEMENT/gc"`
This will open a vim instance for every file that contains PATTERN and ask for confirmation for the substitute command. After closing one file, the next opens.
Also possible without `-L 1`, but then vim opens all files in a single vim instance and you have to use `next` to go to the next file after substituting.
This man is the Ted of Linux.
What if I need to put a picture in the text? Can it be done?
I just started using Obsidian, which is not a free or open source app, but it is really cool,
But one of the main reason I started using it because is stores everything as markdown files, and I never ever seen a good note taking apps with really nice features storing everything in markdown files...
I hate vender locking...
I agree that ending sentences in lol is a total zoomer thing. haha
What about the layout of the output pdf? images, blanks, pages..
i believe thats something you can configure in latex or markdown
But Luke senpai, is it really about extensibility or about the fact that I am independent from the process that are abstracted from me. I think choosing to work on text and then compiling it is not only because of the extensibility I get but because I know how my information is being processed in the background. This may seem stupid for this example but it would come up when we discuss difference between proprietary and open-source software. Maybe a discussion for some other time.
3:44 We use "Castilian" to differentiate Iberian Spanish from Latin American Spanish.
@@Ultr4noob movie dubs make that distinction if you want a practical application. Now, wether that's sanctioned or recognized by RAE is beside the point.
@@Ultr4noob Saludos, Ignacio. También el castellano es mi primer idioma pero creo que Luke se refería a las personas que tienen problemas con llamarle "español" (algún pedante académico seguramente) y para mí son intercambiables.
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idioma_espa%C3%B1ol
We need more hardware videos.
Ok but what's the command "se" Or alias or script or whatever I need that
Plain text format ftw! o/ Hey Luke, remember to undo your changes to your files, btw.
>be a linguist
>mess up easy words such as "easier"
lol git rekt
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Please make a video about gopher sites and the gopher protocol.
11:20 - to add on to this:
Why do we all like modifying configuration files in Linux rather than GUI Menus in Windows or Mac OS?
It's text!
Edit: *BSD users are pretty cool too.
9:20 bass drop
What linux version is he using? Seriously I love the looks and functionality.
Modern Word documents are just XML (i.e. plain text) files.
9:57
which program is that on left side?
looks way too cool ⚡⚡
Ranger
I'm kind of confused by the example you used with 'Spanish'. In a gui document editor I can just do ctr+f and search for the word spanish, it highlights all of the words for me and it tells me how many cases there are of that word, and all I have to do is just search the word. Idk maybe im just too much of a zoomer to understand why I would use a CLI for document creating/editing; I would just prefer to keep the CL for editing small programs/compiling them.
using a gui for document editing is a waste of system resources,
Luke. What about spreadsheets? how do I break free from excel
Spanish and Castillian are interchangeable. In fact, the first dictionary in Spanish was called "Tesoro de la lengua castellana o española". Meaning, they've been used like that for very long.
It's just an example, and he's a linguist.
you can do all those things inside a gui too
Using awesomeWM this guy has my respect
Hi Luke, I sent you an email. Really enjoying your work.
As a Bengali, I am curious to know what work you did on my mother tongue. Also, why are you using lf and not ranger? What advantages does it have over ranger?
lf is faster imo. Ranger has python under the hood and lf has go.
I've been using markdown to do documentation and taking notes in class, not latex but still no word
Again, please, what is the "se" command you are using for searching?
It's probably a small script to start fzf to find a file and then open it in vim.
Check his scripts on GitHub and see for yourself.
@@Mankepanke ahaa, i didn't know the fzf. Handy tool, thanks for reply :)
But most things you showed can be done with ANY good text editor, without needing to remember so many commands. For example in notepad++, ctrl + f and you can search for words, it marks them all, you can replace them all and so on
Embrace,Extend,Extinguish
Ms office and libreoffice actually saves documents in xml format compressed in a zip file, you can literally extract a .docx/.odt file, edit those XMLs...
I see
"...we do what we do..."
"What we do here is go back!"
Since I start to use vim as my main code editor, I feel most less tired than before, when I used vscode. I can replace things easier and use regex to use an oldest code to made something else without spending hour's of work... Before jump in this world I thought just like this guy "why use terminal and text based programs?! The GUI already exists and make people's world easier!"
My English is bad I think. Sorry. Anyway thanks for introducing me to Linux/vim world! You made my jr developer journey most batter than before. Just 6 months since I start to use Linux and these tools and I already fear when some relatives Call me to fix/configure your majority GUI system based (windows), even install programs is just far way better in linux. Now I m blading me to not use Linux when I was 15 years old and starting learning code...
When can we have beyond light?
Any suggestions for a foss note taking app that has the same features as one note?
Use a plain text file. It has way more features.
@@LukeSmithxyz that is the goal down the line but I am not a Linux user yet and I need the GUI and stuff to help the transition.
Been lurking on your channel for a while, I can't say I wasn't expecting this answer :D
God tier
What about soystemd then?
Can you make videos on wayland
Easierly 8:55 . Reassuring that a linguist makes these slip-ups too. Maybe not though, maybe a multilingual person is more likely cause there's more words floating around in brain.