My friend Wesley (Wes) is back and will continue to narrate videos again! He was the narrator for all my videos before October 2017. My current narrator will still continue, so with both of them at it expect more videos from the channel soon :D
No its to mock vader because he knows vader likes to go to his meditation chamber after working but not this time, he will have to spend the next days in his painfuo suit that causes him to itchand womt be able to remove his helmet or eat actual food or have his body sxrubed in his tank.
Greta Skywalker I’m certain that a corner is the same as a planet. My room has four corners in it, that’s basically 4 planets in my room. Which would mean my room is in outer space, and if my room is in outer space then that makes me an astronaut, and you shouldn’t question what an astronaut says about planets.
I mean, to be fair, Palpatine can’t really afford to risk losing an apprentice since the Jedi aren’t as high in demand as they were two decades ago lol
Under all that armor and hate was ultimately still Anakin Skywalker, who was always quick to anger, prone to rash, often dangerous decisions and who was very prideful, even as a Jedi. When focused on a task, he was nearly unstoppable, but he also became very single-minded and blind to everything and everyone around him. He would ignore the larger picture and would instead focus only on what mattered to him, which was often little more than his desire to prove himself. Palpatine didn't care about one Jedi. He cared about a factory which was of substantial importance to the Empire. And Vader literally had only one job... Go to the factory. Protect the factory. That's it. There's not much to actually do wrong, but Vader somehow managed to turn a simple assignment into a major defeat for the Empire, only so he could kill one beaten Jedi.
Corristo89 when anakin/vader is younger he’s more reckless making him quicker to act due to his rage getting the better of him but as he got older he gets the better of his rage becoming wiser and smarter on when to act which makes him more powerful and even colder and more evil hearted and it all makes him succeed perfectly and it makes him more powerful and submerged in the dark side
Palpatine always saw the bigger picture. He knew that the Jedi, if any, who were there, were of no threat to him OR Vader, if they came trying to destroy the factory Vader could defeat them easily. He didn't want Vader to go on a mission to hunt them down.
Hylon died as he lived....trolling the dark side and pissing off the sith.....Gotta say, I feel like we should take a moment and pay respect to the guy.
@@marshidden4352 To be fair Palpatine didn't go and say stupid shit like save the trees or worry about people. He was ruthlessly to the point to the extent that you're completely disarmed in the conversation. I think it's pretty accurate that both sides of the force are more murcurial than they are perceived to be. The dark side is extremely intelligent, to a fault. The Empire had become the most efficient machine in Star Wars history but it's goals were completely backwards through never looking inward at itself or the individuals involved. Palpatine is half the perfect dad couple him and yoda could've been (lul, women in star wars, they had a whole war without women being involved in any of it but they still managed to ruin the everything through the same old biological trope that was obsoleted centuries ago which says we should be selfish for the fucks of it all because that's how it used to be and vaginas and stuff).
Yoda that was when he was first called Darth Vader, but as I see, he was only fully Vader when he “killed” his old self, as Kenobi describes on Return of the Jedi. He only did that when Padme died. While she was alive, he still had ties to his past, even though he was changed. Also, Vader was seen as “more machine than man”. Anakin was far from that both literally and figuratively when he fought Obi-Wan on Mustafar. If you want an aditional source, there is a comic where Vader has a vision where he is back to the moment of Anakin’s defeat on Mustafar. Vader fight and kills Anakin in this vision, showing that he was still not Vader on that moment. But of course, that comic is canon while this one from the video is Legends. Not very good for a comparison.
I don't Think loosing a Fight is the same as Failure in this context. In that case, its not really your fault, even if the Fight was lost due to carless mistakes, as it was a Fight. But in this case, he was told to defend a Factory, and left it, and it was destroyed. There is a big difference.
Palatine: “Kill Jedi, they are traitors” Palatine later: “Don’t do that, we must focus on something else” Vader: “Hold on, this whole operation was your idea”
@@michaelverdon7252 he needed Anakin to help take down the council. When that was done, Palpatine wanted to establish a new government. An Empire. But Vader was obsessed with JUST killing jedi. He was telling him to chill out for a second and only kill jedi that fight against him not actively seek them out to slaughter. Not really hypocritical at all.
@@sloppyphart7879 I just think and believe that each Anakin/Vader is different like each one from the comics shows and movies like this Anakin/Vader is always wanting to kill Jedi but the one in the movies isn’t quite that obsessed with it and I almost forgot about the previous comment I posted
@@michaelverdon7252 By the time we see Vader in the movies (Rogue One and episode IV, V & VII), all of the Jedi & Maul at that time were long gone, and the inquisitors all either dead or dissolved into undercover spies for Palpatine. Only Obi Wan, Yoda, and Luke remained. Obi Wan was of course gone in Ep IV, and only Luke knew that Yoda was still living, no one had heard a whisper from him since his failed attempt on Palpatine's life at the same time as order 66. Kanan Jarus was dead, and Ezra still missing, Ahsoka apparently also was quiet at that time too. Even though Vader knew she was still alive, I don't think he could bring himself to ever go after his old padawan. She had never hurt or injured him to the extent Obi Wan did, she left the Jedi on her own will, so there was no obsession over finding and killing her. So his obsession turned to crushing the Rebel alliance and then to Luke once he found out he had a son. Vader had to be obsessed about something. It kept him from thinking of Padme and all he lost of his old life. He would never be content to just run an empire and the mundane tasks involved with that.
It’s honestly hard to imagine an impulsive Vader based on how calculating and careful he is in the original trilogy, but then again this isn’t long after Revenge of the Sith where he was still the young and quick to action Anakin and yeah he had like 19 years to wipe that out, also... Welcome Back Wes
Franchise I would disagree. His actions in the OT are not all that calculating. He certainly has his points, like on Bespin, but I’d say overall he failed as a tactician.
Here he’s already a true Sith Lord and in his prime of running the empire with sidious and that he’s proven himself to be a true Sith Lord but in the prequels he’s still anakin even when he does his evil deeds I mean doing evil deeds doesn’t just automatically make him a Sith Lord it just means he has human beings of not liking anyone that makes him uncomfortable because it’s not like Jedi have to care about eachother only because they are Jedi and he hasn’t proven himself a true Sith Lord to palpatine in the prequels just by doing some evil deeds I mean it’s palpatine who basically gives anakin missions through out the prequels and it’s why anakin even becomes a Jedi in the first place that’s the point of the Star Wars movies and what they are and when anakin lost to obi wan that’s different than here I mean that would be more like the first time he failed palpatine as anakin but that wasn’t really a failure in the first place I mean palpatine knew it would or might happen and his mission wasn’t to kill obi wan on mustafar it was to wipe out the separatists which he knew for sure anakin wouldn’t fail at that because he knew it was as simple as anakin standing up from sitting down and as simple as killing insects so anakin can’t fail at that he would just do it like it’s nothing and palpatine was still the kind mentor he is in the end of episode 3 it’s just in this video it’s different because vader is already vader and in his prime of running the empire and killing the Jedi and is a true Sith Lord already and he didn’t expect vader to fail and this was a true failure because sidious needed those resources for running the empire
You're crazy. Anaking was always very compulsive and let his emotions dictate his decisions. Like when he took off in the starfighter in the first movie, or jumped out of the car in the second one, or killed all those sandpeople, or attacked dooku even though obi wan said to take him together, or when he cut Dooku's head off. Not very calculating at all really.
@@LordSStorm Vader was a calculating strategist and tactician in the Original Trilogy. During A New Hope, he had his Stormtroopers not shoot to kill, but to string the Rebels along. Then, he and Tarkin used their tracking device to locate the Rebel base on Yavin 4, and had Luke and Han not thrown a monkey wrench into everything, they might won. Similarly, in The Empire Strikes Back, Vader was not responsible for the failed assault on Hoth. Ozzel was, as he was too desperate for action or too foolhardy to exit hyperspace at the right point. He came in too close to the base and ruined Vader's plan. Bespin is an easy win for him. As for Return of the Jedi, he mainly failed because Luke got to him and his heart wasn't in it anymore. He lost the duel against Luke because he just wasn't trying to win. He didn't want to kill his son.
"You don't know the power of the Dark Side. I must obey my master.". That quote holds more weight after seeing Vader's disobedience in both Legends and Canon.
i agree. Legends is like George giving authors the freedom and direction to write whatever interesting,different ideas or approaches they had for the story,characters, factions,ships,planets and aliens they had in mind to create. Its also VERY big in terms of scale to the current canon that disney is making from the ground up. Here are some things that legends has (i know there is a ton more) the yuzon vongh war, abeloth ,the rakgoul plauge, jacen,jaina and anakin solo. the eclipse (massive ship that clone emperor has), emperor palpatine cloning himself, the story of the jedi master ikirit, darth nihlus,revan,malgus and krayt,durge and the mandalorians backstory and so much more.
@@ezequielquiroz935 YUP. Legends feels like real SW to me from the first specs if life on Goroth Prime, the Celestial civilization the rise of Hutt space the Rakata Empire and Xims Empire to the Pius Daea era of the Galactic Republic(crusades, Contispex rules and all) to the great schisms of the Jeh'di(think that's how its spelled) and the rise of the Jedi Order and the great schism separating light and dark force. The Mandalorian and Human ancestorial split To the 2nd great schism and the 100 years war. King Adas of the sith the first Sith'ari(not the WOW one). The Sith Empire, Marka Ragnos, Naga & the hyper space wars, Freedon Nadd and Onderon, Exar Kun and the great sith war, Darth Vitiate, REVAN AND KOTOR events. The Eternal Empire, The triumvirate & KOTOR II. The events of SWTOR. To Darth Ruins order, Darth Bane toppling the Brotherhood of Darkness, Yoda's birth. The 1,000 years peace. The Rise of Sidious and the great coup the 1st Galactic Empire, the Imperial Remnant wars, Yuzong Vong(spelling I forget) and events you seem to know of already, aallll the way to the 2nd Galactic Empire (MY GLORIOUS EMPIRE) that lasted a whopping 7-8 years! Cade Skywalker The Death of Darth Wredd etc. I left a lot out for convenience sake. Cannon ain't got shit on Legends. Its no where near cought up. P.S. I grew up with Legends being unofficial cannon. It was more so then it is now. Srry 4 the essay im passionate about this. Forgive me.
@@HVLLOW99 your good man, no need to worry about how long your comment is, and you are not only detailed about some of the events you listed,but correct about it. :)
Vader: I am ready to pay the price for my failure Master. Palpatine: Uh...right. Well, then... Meditate on your failure... or something. Vader: But surely what I have done deserves only the most severe of punish- Palpatine: Nono, that won't be necessary. Meditation will suffice... Vader: But master this failure shames us all, I do not deserve anything but the most severe discipline. Palpatine: -Laps. Vader: Laps? Palpatine: Yes. 20. 200. 200 laps. You may begin at once. Vader: Around the planet or...? Palpatine: Sure whatever, fuck off and do 2000 laps till we get back or whatever ... Seriously, just, get on with it...! Emperor: As you wish, my lord. Palpatine: ...finally. I just can't with him sometimes. Can you believe this guy? Guards: ... Palpatine: ...I know right?
5:08 I like how Vader just stands there like a child who just received a bad scolding from their parents as Palpatine is leaving, it’s usually Vader being a powerhouse and near unstoppable force, but it’s when Palpatine is involved that we see his true vulnerability both physically and mentally.
Vader comics are so good... Wish they'd make an animated series on Vader. Alot of people don't know how conflicted with regret and pain he was right after episode 3. Darth Vader's story has never really been told. Anakin's story was told in the prequels and Luke's was told in the original. We need a Vader series man
Yeah, also Disney did a fantastic job with Mandolorian, book of Boba, and obi Wan. Yes they completely ruined the main story of star wars (I liked them, but unfortunately they're just not that good. Even worse compared to the originals.) However they have made some awesome strides with star wars as well as horrible tragedies lol
@Kreepiehouse 2 good seasons of bad batch 2 good seasons mandalorian and rogue one is the only good thing star wars has put out since Disney and Andor
I feel it speaks far louder than words for sidious to just show up, look at the rubble without saying a word and leave. The disappointment was immeasurable. If he was angry, he would've choked or hit Vader with lightning but he was just in pure disgust.
@@borakaraca9788 i guess they make alchohol out of jedi blood and than sell it to kids telling them its juice. and each bottle must cost more than an atat
Palpatine: Meditate here on your failure...and maybe then you’ll just stop killing everything that moves. (Palpatine leaves Vader on the planet) Vader: I don’t kill everything that moves... (sees a womp rat, kills it with his lightsaber)....😐.....okay maybe I do.
When Wes left and the new narrator came along, it took me a while to warm up to him but I did and now I’m excited that both narrators are gonna be working together!! Fact free and the lore master come together :,)!!
Sounds like Palpatine has at least been portrayed to be more of a teacher than the evil man he’s made out to be. By leaving Vader there, he gave him time to learn from his mistakes. The real villian here is Vader, letting his anger and hate completely cloud his judgement. He needed to learn that either you control hate and anger, and use it as a weapon of energy, or it will control you and use you as its own weapon instead.
It's called Pragmatic Villainy. you have to know when it's best ot cut your losses and act like a decent person in order to fulfil the greater evil plan.
Meanwhile in the break room. Palpatine: This kid is too hard to deal with. Obi-Wan: Told you so. Padme: It's your fault you kill me, he only listen to me. Yoda: Patience, you must, eh.
This was more of a side story of Vader and Palpatine than anything else And is still somehow 10x times more interesting of a story than anything Disney has done so far
@@felipecosta-kv2fx I'm just picturing Palpatine pulling up his cape showing off his skinny, pale and bruised up grandma legs while taking a massive dump on the throne.
I used the exact same tactic on Balkoth in Lords of Magic. We would make Balkoth waste all his time chasing seagulls across the shoreline while we sent eagles to torch his guilds and burn all his resources. My master sseth called this tactic "Dabbing on Balkoth." That Jedi done dabbed on Vader.
Carjos07 Not really, no amount of pain or torture would stack up to the self hatred of Vader being bested by the jedi he despises so fiercely, Palpatine gave Vader the worst punishment he could have, let him sulk in his own defeat
I think this was a pretty bad punishment to be honest I mean vader was left alone there stranded for weeks without shelter and a home to be living in and sleeping in poor vader man but that was how angry palpatine was at vader this proves what an abusive father palpatine is to his son vader I always believed palpatine was Vader’s father it’s obvious how and why
I see that the people in these comments who have inherent admiration for Lord Vader. However, you must know that disobedience and disorder are not tolerated from anyone in my ranks, even the esteemed Lord Vader. He performed amazing feats of strength in this battle, and therefore his punishment was deserved. But remember, always follow your orders.
Sidious: look at this mess! Vader you are in big trouble Vader: but.... but it was the Sidious: *no buts* mister. Now go sit in the corner and think about what you’ve done! Vader: yeeees maaasterrr. (Sulks)
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My friend Wesley (Wes) is back and will continue to narrate videos again! He was the narrator for all my videos before October 2017. My current narrator will still continue, so with both of them at it expect more videos from the channel soon :D
The Lore Master :3 can’t wait!!
Thanks great to hear :D
Both are equally great. And I did think towards the end that the narrator sounded different.
How many narrators you have in total?
That’s my name (Wesley)
Palpatine: My apprentice has disobeyed me!
Obi-Wan: First time?
Jian Wei Ooi lmao underrated comment
Ahsoka: *flashbacks intensifies*
😂😂😂
Palpatenes granddaughter betrays him and dies Ben solo brings her back to life and the granddaughter used both lukes and leias lightsabers
@@maxmorrison5230 In what way is it underrated?
I like how palpatine's reaction was basically "My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined"
......and this iiiis running on empty......foooood review
Its times like these when you really realize that Vader was once Anakin.
Jaden 17 he just salty he never became a jedi master lmao
Why does this only have 4 replies?
Classic Anakin always disobeying orders
Palpatine: finally I have the most powerful apprentice!
Obi-Wan: *laughing uproarously*
He’s vader in this video hating the Jedi vs being anakin in the prequels hating the Jedi
“Meditate on your failure” is pretty much the Sith equivalent of “go to the corner.”
No its to mock vader because he knows vader likes to go to his meditation chamber after working but not this time, he will have to spend the next days in his painfuo suit that causes him to itchand womt be able to remove his helmet or eat actual food or have his body sxrubed in his tank.
@@darthvaderoftheredpill5196 that's actually a good point, it was like an ascetic punishment
Palpatine wasn't mad, just disappointed.
Exactly my dudidude
The fact that he arrived despite not being called tells me that he knew Vader is going to fck up.
@@Jin-di9zv i imagine he will have gotten some kind of call from the factory like "help, a giant beast is destroying everything and vader is gone"
@@dovahkiindragonborn7669 more like, "Your boi left and here a huge dog in the factory"
Guys, James Struckman’s comment is just a joke... No need to get too deep into this
I was expecting the punishment to be pouring sand into his suit.
Lmao
It would get everywhere!
Plus it would hurt really bad because of his wounds
@@Archana_Soren the worst is if they poured salt and lemon juice in the suit, the pain would be the worst
@@theonionsystem7779 more like adding lemon and salt to roasted meat
Palpatine: you had one job
I can hear that sentence.
"oonnee joob"
All he had to do was follow the damn train CJ....
All you had to do was to defend the damn factory, DV!
Deadass 💀
They should animate this as
"it's hard to convince Anakin Skywalker 3"
It would probably take them 3 days to do it
Ah a fellow man of culture
@@EliTried
I am very disappointed in you.
How can you mess up the format?
Hard to convince Anakin three should be: "It's hard to convince Anakin not to kill children"
Long live and prosper
Vader: *I got sand in my pants and it made me do the boogie dance.*
not for a sith lord
Why do I see you everywhere
qesa0000 js
Where else was i 😂
Amen. Jesus does save brother. God loves you
Na m8 he didnt believe In jesus
Emperor: Failure is not an option
Vader: yes master
*"Fails palpatine"*
Vader: failure is not an option
Officers:....
😂😂😂😂😂
Palpatine: Vader You are demoted for 1 week.
Vader to officers: You are demoted for life *breaks necks*
_it’s force choke time oh yeah yeah_
@@jonseon5952 Vader:the emperor is not as forgiving as me.
Also Vader to officers:Im angry *force chokes the officer* .
I am Vader.
Palpatine: That's it! Go to your room!
Vader: But Masteeeeeer!
Palpatine: No buts! You're in time out! No Force Choking for a month!
Vader: Your so annoying! I wish I lived with uncle Obi-Wan!
Vader: What?! I have a son?!
Wait, you said i killed padme!
You lied to me, you're dead!
Vader: but Master....the bitches...they luv my force choke :’(
Vader: NNNNNNNOOOOOOO!
I believe Vader would kill himself if he didn't force choke at least an imperial officer every week.
That Jedi master sounds like an evil mastermind lol
He was indeed a mastermind, a rare, good one.
@@grzegorzha. How was he a good one if he was using local people as his minions to commit terrorist attacks...
@@Nicholas_Chen_ that was a militia assault on a military installation, I would hardly consider that a terrorist attack.
@@Nicholas_Chen_ with your logic Luke was a terrorist.
@@grzegorzha. but he was, he alone killed millions in the death star rofl
When I hear the old voice again:
Hello there 😏
general kenobi
You are a bold one.
Kill him.
This is getting out of hand! now there are two of them!
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
Palpatine: "Don't obsess about the Jedi, lord Vader."
also him: *spends the entire original trilogy obsessing about Luke*
Lol
He knew Luke was a real threat tho ofcourse
He wasn't that obsessed. Palpatine only appears on the last movie and only for the finale. He was more focused with the stupid death stars as usual.
@@grandbean9031yes
Not a Jedi for the initial most part, so basically, he's really not obsessed with the Jedi.
Exact words, people.
The punishment was essentially, "Sit in the corner and think about what you've done."
Planet =\= corner
Okay.
Greta Skywalker I’m certain that a corner is the same as a planet. My room has four corners in it, that’s basically 4 planets in my room. Which would mean my room is in outer space, and if my room is in outer space then that makes me an astronaut, and you shouldn’t question what an astronaut says about planets.
@@hursimear3408 You've just blown my mind.
@@hairyputter5363 no =\= shit
darth vader : fails
palpatine : 1 week on this planet
count dooku : fails
palpatine *chokes him*
Lol
It's the favoritism XD
I mean, to be fair, Palpatine can’t really afford to risk losing an apprentice since the Jedi aren’t as high in demand as they were two decades ago lol
I have a feeling that sideous REALLY prefers vader lol.
I think it’s because when Palpatine first met Vader he was nine year old Skywalker and they quickly developed that father/son type connection.
Under all that armor and hate was ultimately still Anakin Skywalker, who was always quick to anger, prone to rash, often dangerous decisions and who was very prideful, even as a Jedi. When focused on a task, he was nearly unstoppable, but he also became very single-minded and blind to everything and everyone around him. He would ignore the larger picture and would instead focus only on what mattered to him, which was often little more than his desire to prove himself.
Palpatine didn't care about one Jedi. He cared about a factory which was of substantial importance to the Empire. And Vader literally had only one job... Go to the factory. Protect the factory. That's it. There's not much to actually do wrong, but Vader somehow managed to turn a simple assignment into a major defeat for the Empire, only so he could kill one beaten Jedi.
Corristo89 when anakin/vader is younger he’s more reckless making him quicker to act due to his rage getting the better of him but as he got older he gets the better of his rage becoming wiser and smarter on when to act which makes him more powerful and even colder and more evil hearted and it all makes him succeed perfectly and it makes him more powerful and submerged in the dark side
Well it could be argued that such problems were going to keep happening until the source of the problems was gotten rid of.
Ehhhh….I thought the same thing, until I watched Obi Wan Kenobi 😬
Palpatine always saw the bigger picture. He knew that the Jedi, if any, who were there, were of no threat to him OR Vader, if they came trying to destroy the factory Vader could defeat them easily. He didn't want Vader to go on a mission to hunt them down.
Hylon died as he lived....trolling the dark side and pissing off the sith.....Gotta say, I feel like we should take a moment and pay respect to the guy.
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He’s a legend
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Pay respect to the ink on the paper coz he didn’t exist u mean
Wesley... Now that's a voice I haven't heard in a long, long time.
@@AmyRovin-ie2jr indeed
Now there are two of them!
@@felipecosta-kv2fx this is getting out of hand
Do you know him?
Wololo Man hello there!
Vader: At last I've found you! NOW YOU DIE!
The Jedi: Ladies and gentlemen, we got em.
Am I the only one who thinks, palpatine is actually a very good mentor? His lessons, his teachings, his punishments are all quite accurate.
In legends yes in Disney is a non sense
Boy i hope you don't have kids. No offense
@@gwpattrick It would be stupid to bear a child to this shit world.
Kermit The Architect Speak for yourself.
@@marshidden4352 To be fair Palpatine didn't go and say stupid shit like save the trees or worry about people. He was ruthlessly to the point to the extent that you're completely disarmed in the conversation. I think it's pretty accurate that both sides of the force are more murcurial than they are perceived to be. The dark side is extremely intelligent, to a fault. The Empire had become the most efficient machine in Star Wars history but it's goals were completely backwards through never looking inward at itself or the individuals involved.
Palpatine is half the perfect dad couple him and yoda could've been (lul, women in star wars, they had a whole war without women being involved in any of it but they still managed to ruin the everything through the same old biological trope that was obsoleted centuries ago which says we should be selfish for the fucks of it all because that's how it used to be and vaginas and stuff).
Vader returns back to a destroyed base that he was suppose to protect
Vader: *Mike Wazowski face*
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The first time Darth Vader failed Palpatine was when he lost to Obi-Wan.
Palpatine and Vader consider that Anakin's failure more than Vader's, that he was, in that moment, Anakin more than anything.
@@pubcle source? Because Anakin was fully Vader once he fucked up Windu
Yoda that was when he was first called Darth Vader, but as I see, he was only fully Vader when he “killed” his old self, as Kenobi describes on Return of the Jedi. He only did that when Padme died. While she was alive, he still had ties to his past, even though he was changed.
Also, Vader was seen as “more machine than man”. Anakin was far from that both literally and figuratively when he fought Obi-Wan on Mustafar.
If you want an aditional source, there is a comic where Vader has a vision where he is back to the moment of Anakin’s defeat on Mustafar. Vader fight and kills Anakin in this vision, showing that he was still not Vader on that moment.
But of course, that comic is canon while this one from the video is Legends. Not very good for a comparison.
@@drlecter2077 Hm confusing matter this is. Speak to the Jedi council I will.
I don't Think loosing a Fight is the same as Failure in this context. In that case, its not really your fault, even if the Fight was lost due to carless mistakes, as it was a Fight. But in this case, he was told to defend a Factory, and left it, and it was destroyed.
There is a big difference.
Palatine: “Kill Jedi, they are traitors”
Palatine later: “Don’t do that, we must focus on something else”
Vader: “Hold on, this whole operation was your idea”
He was just trolling him all the time showing that he is the boss and Vader a dog.
@@michaelverdon7252 he needed Anakin to help take down the council. When that was done, Palpatine wanted to establish a new government. An Empire. But Vader was obsessed with JUST killing jedi. He was telling him to chill out for a second and only kill jedi that fight against him not actively seek them out to slaughter. Not really hypocritical at all.
@@sloppyphart7879 I just think and believe that each Anakin/Vader is different like each one from the comics shows and movies like this Anakin/Vader is always wanting to kill Jedi but the one in the movies isn’t quite that obsessed with it and I almost forgot about the previous comment I posted
@@spacewargamer4181 oo
@@michaelverdon7252 By the time we see Vader in the movies (Rogue One and episode IV, V & VII), all of the Jedi & Maul at that time were long gone, and the inquisitors all either dead or dissolved into undercover spies for Palpatine. Only Obi Wan, Yoda, and Luke remained. Obi Wan was of course gone in Ep IV, and only Luke knew that Yoda was still living, no one had heard a whisper from him since his failed attempt on Palpatine's life at the same time as order 66. Kanan Jarus was dead, and Ezra still missing, Ahsoka apparently also was quiet at that time too. Even though Vader knew she was still alive, I don't think he could bring himself to ever go after his old padawan. She had never hurt or injured him to the extent Obi Wan did, she left the Jedi on her own will, so there was no obsession over finding and killing her. So his obsession turned to crushing the Rebel alliance and then to Luke once he found out he had a son. Vader had to be obsessed about something. It kept him from thinking of Padme and all he lost of his old life. He would never be content to just run an empire and the mundane tasks involved with that.
It’s honestly hard to imagine an impulsive Vader based on how calculating and careful he is in the original trilogy, but then again this isn’t long after Revenge of the Sith where he was still the young and quick to action Anakin and yeah he had like 19 years to wipe that out, also...
Welcome Back Wes
It's hard to imagine vader saying i had help
Franchise I would disagree. His actions in the OT are not all that calculating. He certainly has his points, like on Bespin, but I’d say overall he failed as a tactician.
Here he’s already a true Sith Lord and in his prime of running the empire with sidious and that he’s proven himself to be a true Sith Lord but in the prequels he’s still anakin even when he does his evil deeds I mean doing evil deeds doesn’t just automatically make him a Sith Lord it just means he has human beings of not liking anyone that makes him uncomfortable because it’s not like Jedi have to care about eachother only because they are Jedi and he hasn’t proven himself a true Sith Lord to palpatine in the prequels just by doing some evil deeds I mean it’s palpatine who basically gives anakin missions through out the prequels and it’s why anakin even becomes a Jedi in the first place that’s the point of the Star Wars movies and what they are and when anakin lost to obi wan that’s different than here I mean that would be more like the first time he failed palpatine as anakin but that wasn’t really a failure in the first place I mean palpatine knew it would or might happen and his mission wasn’t to kill obi wan on mustafar it was to wipe out the separatists which he knew for sure anakin wouldn’t fail at that because he knew it was as simple as anakin standing up from sitting down and as simple as killing insects so anakin can’t fail at that he would just do it like it’s nothing and palpatine was still the kind mentor he is in the end of episode 3 it’s just in this video it’s different because vader is already vader and in his prime of running the empire and killing the Jedi and is a true Sith Lord already and he didn’t expect vader to fail and this was a true failure because sidious needed those resources for running the empire
You're crazy. Anaking was always very compulsive and let his emotions dictate his decisions. Like when he took off in the starfighter in the first movie, or jumped out of the car in the second one, or killed all those sandpeople, or attacked dooku even though obi wan said to take him together, or when he cut Dooku's head off. Not very calculating at all really.
@@LordSStorm Vader was a calculating strategist and tactician in the Original Trilogy. During A New Hope, he had his Stormtroopers not shoot to kill, but to string the Rebels along. Then, he and Tarkin used their tracking device to locate the Rebel base on Yavin 4, and had Luke and Han not thrown a monkey wrench into everything, they might won. Similarly, in The Empire Strikes Back, Vader was not responsible for the failed assault on Hoth. Ozzel was, as he was too desperate for action or too foolhardy to exit hyperspace at the right point. He came in too close to the base and ruined Vader's plan. Bespin is an easy win for him. As for Return of the Jedi, he mainly failed because Luke got to him and his heart wasn't in it anymore. He lost the duel against Luke because he just wasn't trying to win. He didn't want to kill his son.
"You don't know the power of the Dark Side. I must obey my master.".
That quote holds more weight after seeing Vader's disobedience in both Legends and Canon.
Palpatine: These apprentices these days...
Man legends is real SW to me. Always will be.
Sup Krayt 🔥🔥🔥 big fan
Everybody was human, then.
i agree. Legends is like George giving authors the freedom and direction to write whatever interesting,different ideas or approaches they had for the story,characters, factions,ships,planets and aliens they had in mind to create. Its also VERY big in terms of scale to the current canon that disney is making from the ground up. Here are some things that legends has (i know there is a ton more) the yuzon vongh war, abeloth ,the rakgoul plauge, jacen,jaina and anakin solo. the eclipse (massive ship that clone emperor has), emperor palpatine cloning himself, the story of the jedi master ikirit, darth nihlus,revan,malgus and krayt,durge and the mandalorians backstory and so much more.
@@ezequielquiroz935 YUP. Legends feels like real SW to me from the first specs if life on Goroth Prime, the Celestial civilization the rise of Hutt space the Rakata Empire and Xims Empire to the Pius Daea era of the Galactic Republic(crusades, Contispex rules and all) to the great schisms of the Jeh'di(think that's how its spelled) and the rise of the Jedi Order and the great schism separating light and dark force. The Mandalorian and Human ancestorial split
To the 2nd great schism and the 100 years war. King Adas of the sith the first Sith'ari(not the WOW one). The Sith Empire, Marka Ragnos, Naga & the hyper space wars, Freedon Nadd and Onderon, Exar Kun and the great sith war, Darth Vitiate, REVAN AND KOTOR events. The Eternal Empire, The triumvirate & KOTOR II. The events of SWTOR.
To Darth Ruins order, Darth Bane toppling the Brotherhood of Darkness, Yoda's birth. The 1,000 years peace. The Rise of Sidious and the great coup the 1st Galactic Empire, the Imperial Remnant wars, Yuzong Vong(spelling I forget) and events you seem to know of already, aallll the way to the 2nd Galactic Empire (MY GLORIOUS EMPIRE) that lasted a whopping 7-8 years! Cade Skywalker The Death of Darth Wredd etc.
I left a lot out for convenience sake. Cannon ain't got shit on Legends. Its no where near cought up. P.S. I grew up with Legends being unofficial cannon. It was more so then it is now.
Srry 4 the essay im passionate about this. Forgive me.
@@HVLLOW99 your good man, no need to worry about how long your comment is, and you are not only detailed about some of the events you listed,but correct about it. :)
Vader: I am ready to pay the price for my failure Master.
Palpatine: Uh...right. Well, then... Meditate on your failure... or something.
Vader: But surely what I have done deserves only the most severe of punish-
Palpatine: Nono, that won't be necessary. Meditation will suffice...
Vader: But master this failure shames us all, I do not deserve anything but the most severe discipline.
Palpatine: -Laps.
Vader: Laps?
Palpatine: Yes. 20. 200. 200 laps. You may begin at once.
Vader: Around the planet or...?
Palpatine: Sure whatever, fuck off and do 2000 laps till we get back or whatever ... Seriously, just, get on with it...!
Emperor: As you wish, my lord.
Palpatine: ...finally. I just can't with him sometimes. Can you believe this guy?
Guards: ...
Palpatine: ...I know right?
Lmao hilarious
Your user name and icon are cute...
Heh. This has a Robot Chicken flavor to it.
@@spaghetvirus1366 Yeah. After that first sentence, I couldn't UNHEAR Seth McFarlane as Palpatine.
That was the best thing i heard all day. Congrats man
5:08
I like how Vader just stands there like a child who just received a bad scolding from their parents as Palpatine is leaving, it’s usually Vader being a powerhouse and near unstoppable force, but it’s when Palpatine is involved that we see his true vulnerability both physically and mentally.
*kicks in the Death Star doors*
I heard lord Vader name
'You have failed me for the first time!"
@@JudaiVox Master, there are too many of them
Palpatine’s version of “I’m not mad at you, I’m disappointed.”
Palpatine: go to the planet of shame!
Vader: When can i leave?
Palpatine: When you no longer bring shame to this Galaxy!
5:00
when your parents come home and the dishes aren't done yet.
@@danndidntask4057 huh?
Hahahaha
Vader comics are so good... Wish they'd make an animated series on Vader. Alot of people don't know how conflicted with regret and pain he was right after episode 3. Darth Vader's story has never really been told. Anakin's story was told in the prequels and Luke's was told in the original. We need a Vader series man
I am afraid disney would find a way to turn it into some woke nonesense... Still love the idea!!
Nah a vader trilogy would be the best
Yeah, also Disney did a fantastic job with Mandolorian, book of Boba, and obi Wan. Yes they completely ruined the main story of star wars (I liked them, but unfortunately they're just not that good. Even worse compared to the originals.) However they have made some awesome strides with star wars as well as horrible tragedies lol
Hey Disney, get on the Vader series
@Kreepiehouse 2 good seasons of bad batch 2 good seasons mandalorian and rogue one is the only good thing star wars has put out since Disney and Andor
Palpatine: "..."
Vader: "..."
Palpatine: "...*sighs* You had one job, bro."
I feel it speaks far louder than words for sidious to just show up, look at the rubble without saying a word and leave. The disappointment was immeasurable. If he was angry, he would've choked or hit Vader with lightning but he was just in pure disgust.
You never fail
This is your first time
Darth vader: "so no punishment?"
Not quite
this is so stupid because killing a jedi master and his padawan is more important than stupid 8080 factory
@@borakaraca9788 i guess they make alchohol out of jedi blood and than sell it to kids telling them its juice. and each bottle must cost more than an atat
Damn. This is the kinda stuff in Star Wars that needs a movie made out of it!
Welcome back! It's good to see the real Vader live up to his title of greatest fiction villain ever created.
''Every time I train a Sith to give in to their anger and kill everyone, they don't seem to play by the rules??''
Palpatine: Meditate here on your failure...and maybe then you’ll just stop killing everything that moves.
(Palpatine leaves Vader on the planet)
Vader: I don’t kill everything that moves... (sees a womp rat, kills it with his lightsaber)....😐.....okay maybe I do.
Dude, this was one of my favorite comic. I'm so happy you covered this lore!
"Chasing a Jedi master [GONE WRONG]"
When Wes left and the new narrator came along, it took me a while to warm up to him but I did and now I’m excited that both narrators are gonna be working together!! Fact free and the lore master come together :,)!!
Damn that was actually a great and rounded out story tbh
I thought this was a old video because of the narrator.
Same lol I had to check the date to see if this shit was real. 😂
Ikr
When the old narrator comes back “a surprise to be sure but a welcome one”
Fact free has risen from the grave, to bring lore upon his listeners. Welcome back Wesley!
When that kid who has better internet says first before you.
So basically Sidious just said "you're grounded" and left. Oh, the horror! His evil knows no bounds! I think my parents are Sith Lords.
Yeah what shitty writing
your parents would kill each other because of two sith rule.
Sounds like Palpatine has at least been portrayed to be more of a teacher than the evil man he’s made out to be. By leaving Vader there, he gave him time to learn from his mistakes.
The real villian here is Vader, letting his anger and hate completely cloud his judgement. He needed to learn that either you control hate and anger, and use it as a weapon of energy, or it will control you and use you as its own weapon instead.
It's called Pragmatic Villainy. you have to know when it's best ot cut your losses and act like a decent person in order to fulfil the greater evil plan.
He over toasted and burned an eggo waffle, Palpatine wasn't having it.
Palpatine: Sometimes I just want to throw myself into a hot bath and cry.
Imagine being one of the royal guards standing there awkwardly as Palpatine punishes Vader
Vader to his master: Ok I can fix this I just need a-little glue.
Hooray for more legends content!
Great video and I'm so glad that the old narrator is back. So happy
Meanwhile in the break room.
Palpatine: This kid is too hard to deal with.
Obi-Wan: Told you so.
Padme: It's your fault you kill me, he only listen to me.
Yoda: Patience, you must, eh.
ALL YOU HAD TO DO, WAS STAY IN THE DAMN BASE VADER - Big palp
This was more of a side story of Vader and Palpatine than anything else
And is still somehow 10x times more interesting of a story than anything Disney has done so far
So far You mean EVER
Anakin failed when he prevented Mace Windu from killing Darth Sidious (“just stay in the Jedi Temple, Skywalker”)
I am a simple man.
I see Legends, I click.
I am a less than simple man
I hear Wes' voice
I melt
Coffee Succubus yr not made of carbonite are u? 😂
@@CoffeeSuccubus coffee doesn't melt
"Lord Vader, you had.... ONE job to do!" - Palpatine
"Meditate on your failure here. Also be thankful I'm not in the mood to slice off one of your hands. Again."
*Month later*
Palpatine: Haven't seen Vader for ages is he on vacation..OH SHIT HE'S STILL ON OTAVON!!
"I'm not angry. I'm just disappointed in you "
*Looks at title*
He punished by a obvious technique...
*GETTING SAND THROWN AT HIS FACE!*
Or worst, shiting on his throne, while vader is on the stairs leading to the throne, and say "It's over vader, i have the high ground!"
Sorry, i mean sitting
@@felipecosta-kv2fx I think it's funny both ways XD
@@felipecosta-kv2fx I'm just picturing Palpatine pulling up his cape showing off his skinny, pale and bruised up grandma legs while taking a massive dump on the throne.
Vader's punishment is to sit on a sand throne for the rest of the week.
Wes: finally, we have return.
BigHeadJ.R. Fucking nerd
pApILiNdOwiThMaMiLiNdA then why click this video asshole?
Palpatine: *Upon seeing Vader’s screw up, cutting him off* “You had one job. Just the one.”
"You have failed me for the first time, Lord Vader."
"Yes, my master."
"Now go sit in the corner and think about what you just did."
It’s been awhile. It brings me joy to see Wes has returned to the channel.
I used the exact same tactic on Balkoth in Lords of Magic. We would make Balkoth waste all his time chasing seagulls across the shoreline while we sent eagles to torch his guilds and burn all his resources. My master sseth called this tactic "Dabbing on Balkoth."
That Jedi done dabbed on Vader.
This was epic and so well done, the music in the background did a great job of conveying the overall tone of the video👍
I swear that I read it as “The first time palpatine failed Vader and how he was punished”
This was a very nice story, thanks for sharing
That was actually Palpatine being merciful and kind to Vader.
Carjos07 Not really, no amount of pain or torture would stack up to the self hatred of Vader being bested by the jedi he despises so fiercely, Palpatine gave Vader the worst punishment he could have, let him sulk in his own defeat
I think this was a pretty bad punishment to be honest I mean vader was left alone there stranded for weeks without shelter and a home to be living in and sleeping in poor vader man but that was how angry palpatine was at vader this proves what an abusive father palpatine is to his son vader I always believed palpatine was Vader’s father it’s obvious how and why
@@Robert-qm7yi Did you see how he punished doolu
this is so stupid because killing a jedi master and his padawan is more important than stupid 8080 factory
@@borakaraca9788 alcoholic drinks that are mixed with 60% Jedi blood probably became more expensive than 1 atat
Welcome Wes. It's been a while. Or rather a very long time. I really like the voice from years ago, glad I'll be hearing it once again.
I see that the people in these comments who have inherent admiration for Lord Vader. However, you must know that disobedience and disorder are not tolerated from anyone in my ranks, even the esteemed Lord Vader. He performed amazing feats of strength in this battle, and therefore his punishment was deserved. But remember, always follow your orders.
Yes my lord!
😶
@@haillobster7154 Pleased to see loyalty is still present in these dark, liberal times.
@Overkill XJ Blasphemy! So it's treason then?
But why did you want to enter your granddaughter? That's just weird your majesty!
Emperor Palpatine
Your face looks like a wrinkled testicle, “Emperor”.
So basically palpatine said sit in a corner and think about what youve done 😂
Fail Palpatine: You're grounded. Fail Vader: You go 6 feet underground.
That jedi is a legend, i loved how he said his last words.
Sidious: look at this mess! Vader you are in big trouble
Vader: but.... but it was the
Sidious: *no buts* mister. Now go sit in the corner and think about what you’ve done!
Vader: yeeees maaasterrr. (Sulks)
Seldom Studios perfect father deciplining son conversation but this was a pretty mean and cruel punishment
This has to be the most merciful punishment I ever heard Palpatine give to a pupil of his.
One day Star Wars will make a Darth Vader movie where it focuses only and just on him.
There have been a bazillion comics and novels, I think we're good
@@WTFisTingispingis movie.
Thank you for content! Real nice escape from these bonkers times
Palpatine: failure is not an option
Darth Vader: no u
I THOUGHT IT WAS MY COMMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME PFP
"I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed"
- Palpatine, probably
Just started watching your videos. Thank you so much for the content, it's extremely enjoyable and well made. I'm embarrassed to admit that I had no idea that there was nothing more to the SW universe other than the movies. Keep up the good work!
Well done. Thank you.
Vader : Master...
Palpatine : unlimited PAWAAA!!
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To be fair, what did Sideous expect. The whole reason Vader BECAME Vader was from deception.
After palpatine leaves I can see Vader walking around kicking rocks " this is some bullshit".
Damn, that's lame.
I thought Palpatine was gonna embed Vader's breathing mask with fresh farts or something.
One of the best Ono Reverse Cards I've seen.
Palpatine: “You had one job. _One job_ …”
Palpatine: you have failed me for the last time Vader!
Darth Vader: i am sorry my master
Palpatine: Don't fail me again... Vader
Darth Vader: *Fails a Task*
Me: *Fails At A Exam*