I think you were pretty fair with your comments. Fast fashion has made people believe a shirt should cost $5, but somebody elsewhere is paying that cost with their quality of life :(
I think there are solutions people just don’t want to spend time looking. There’s plenty of small businesses willing to charge less for their labor just because they know people won’t buy them, there’s plenty of good quality clothing you can find from thrifting or eBay (and not depop because it’s overpriced by younger people) but people love convenience at someone’s exploitation as well. It takes time to find good items thrifting/it takes time for people to even unlearn to not follow trends. they also won’t try to make companies change with demand practices.
I think this is so important -- being a consumer that prioritizes buying "affordable" short-lived items (read: junk) -- rather than buying and using "expensive" quality items that last -- feels more expensive in the long run. And if we keep buying cheaply made things, we're just going to reinforce to these brands that they can keep selling us junk...
i'm just buying all my clothes second hand. funnily most things there are of much higher quality than new clothes. found a great pair of jeans from the 70s and been wearing that for 10 years now XD
I buy cheap stuff and make them last for years, hardly go clothes shopping and have been using many of the same clothes from high school and college. Clothes have become more cheaply made so that could also be a factor. It could also be how you take care of your clothes, how you wash them and dry them. Another thing is I always buy at the end of the season when items are on sale, so it could be slightly better material but at a very low price. (Macy’s, JCPenney, old navy, Walmart, Charlotte Russe). That being said I haven’t shopped for clothes in like 5 years and mostly thrift now so quality of clothing must have gone down even more. Oh and I also wanted to note I’ve never been a huge fan of online shopping for clothes, mostly always bought in store where I feel and try the outfits on. Ive never purchased from websites like shein but I have bought stuff from forever21 and h&m who are also considered fast fashion, I’ve just taken good care of those clothes too
I feel like they went against what the brand stands for with this collection. They sacrificed quality control for a paycheck and mass produced even though they’re supposedly against fast fashion. It makes me trust the Popflex ethos a little less.
I think the fact that the line was a collaboration with Target instantly makes it fast fashion. There's no way the clothes are made with the same quality, and Target is just profitting off of Cassey and the brand she built with so much work. It's exploitation of Cassey and of everyone in the supply chain.
@@moniquesutton7066I’d suggest looking into how Walmart pressures retailers to lower their prices. I have no doubts Target does the same thing. Yes, it can still be exploitation if she agreed to it; these companies will exploit anyone they can. I feel like I don’t need to explain that lower buying cost = lower making cost = low quality … which is fast fashion.
@@moniquesutton7066yeah I don’t agree that she’s being exploited. more like she was bought.. she willingly decided to become part of the problem for a paycheck, which is disappointing.
She’s profiting off of this deal. How is it exploiting her? I wouldn’t even be surprised if she was the one who came up with the idea. Her fans had been asking her to make Popflex products more affordable for years.
@@moniquesutton7066fair,but I can also see her perspective as an artist/fashion designer. Getting picked up by big brands such as target can make on excited. Not excusing her from this but more understanding.
LOVED this!! and totally agree. i hate how companies like shein and temu have made people think that a pair of leggings should cost $10-$15. Real clothes that are made ethically and sustainably cost a lot more than that to make. We seriously need to change this mindset in our society for the sake of the people and environments fast fashion hurts
Big issue is, price doesn’t even mean quality, making it hard to shop without the product being physically infront of you. More times than not you’re paying for a brand not quality.
I don't agree with u.. coming from South Asia, where most of the clothes are manufactured... I feel like the clothes don't cost much to manufacture but it's the greedy capitalist companies that raise the prices 100 times to maximise their profits. The cost of living in South Asia is much lower than here in the U.S. Even doctors or engineers make only about $750-$1000 per month in South Asia, but they can live a comfortable life due to low cost of everything. So these companies pay good money to the laborers which is cheap compared to the U.S. .
@@ShG2022 Oh no I totally agree with you. Capitalist greed has definitely inflated prices greatly. It's a very unfortunate cycle. I was just making the point that in western societies it's very difficult to find quality pieces for low prices.
Watching try ons I noticed that almost all of the target collection isn’t made for those of us with big boobs. The pop flex line seems to take that into account more, I’m guessing because it’s an additional thing that would add more time to the design process and costs more. Clothing fit is more than just regular size/plus size.
It would be cool if one day there were clothes that take into consideration people with limb differences and disabilities like easy access for injections in the thighs of pants like a lil flap
LITERALLY! I had to return all of the sports bras. They give me an uncomfortable amount of cleavage and barely any support even with putting in inserts. I feel like only people B cup and below can actually work out in them.
I had some similar thoughts when i saw videos of people trying the target blogilates line. The clothes just seemed way more low quality than the popflex versions.
@@busybila you state in your video that you aren’t trying to put anyone down but then proceed to like this comment and agree with it. Your video was absolutely useless
@@okok-uc8hithis comment wasn’t putting anyone down, though. It was just stating the fact that the clothes are lower quality, which literally the whole video was about
I've seen a surprising number of successful fashion designers getting pretentious about this issue. I've genuinely seen the phrase 'if you can't afford these prices, you shouldn't buy nice clothes-' completely ignoring how the obscene prices normalised in the clothing industry, particularly for disabled, trans and plus sized people, are the root of the problem. If people were just being lazy or stingy that would be one thing, but we are in a cost of living crisis era with some of the worst, most prevalent poverty with the least support in modern history. People don't shop at, say, walmart out of choice. Thank you for the nuance and decency you display here, placing the responsibility where it belongs.
:( it makes me sad. My clothes are torn because I can’t afford new clothes on a disability pension especially with my medicine not all being covered and I’ve been escaping DV which has taken even more money having to move emergency. It makes you feel awful having holes in stuff cause you get all self conscious and hyperaware of if they are showing badly in that moment and the elastic of stuff has gotten all loose and I can’t wear them anymore
@I.am.hooked I have been fixing things but some materials have trouble with holes reopening like stretch materials I've found are trickier to sew back. I think I need more practice. I have a place of my own now so I'm hoping I can set up a sewing machine and learn to sew things and make some clothes too like basic skirts with fabrics that make me happy cause it'll be cheap but I'm also a bit scared of people being mean to me but I guess it's all just practice
I’m about to turn 45 next month and the older I’ve gotten, I find myself really searching and being picky about the materials of the clothing I buy. I own a lot of 100% cotton, silk, wool, linen, etc. It lasts longer, wears more comfortably, and is more sustainable. SHEIN, Temu, Forever 21; they are all skewing people’s thinking about quality. Cheaper is not always better, but it’s what most people can afford these days, and these companies know it. I fear in the future there is just going to be EXTREMELY cheap OR extremely EXPENSIVE options. Pushing out the middle man is not always the answer.
I absolutely agree. I’m 50 and I don’t have a closet full of handbags, I have 3 leather bags that were hand made for me and the quality is well beyond what the designers offer. I paid more for handmade quality but they will still be in great condition a hundred years from now if properly cared for. My style is classic so I don’t have to replace clothing every couple of years as trends change. And you are so right about material choices, cotton, linen, wool, silk, that’s what stands the test of time. I’ll take a curated closet over fast fashion any day of the week.
I think it's way more complex problem that stems from consumerism. People have way too much clothes nowadays and are more likely to buy more low-quality items that will tear pretty quickly. Rather than buying something that will last for years for a higher price. We forgot that a big wardrobe was a LUXURY not something everyone had. I get it, it's a dream to have many options, try different aesthetics etc. But it started getting way out control. Just compare how much clothes older generation had (your parents for example) and how much a modern person has. That's not even close. Now people complain if the price is slightly higher than on Sh*in. Smaller local business can't compete with its prices. There's no way. The only thing they can do is to use cheaper materials which of course will affect the final result. And then we wonder why it's so hard to find something good. Because fast fashion cause overall quality drop. And we're the ones to blame.
This! So many of us can't afford to keep up with trends if we buy sustainably. But if we just purchase less we can. Participating in trends is not a basic human right. These trends exist only to make the rich richer.
Yeah, realizing how much work quality clothes need and it made me want to learn how to sew and make my own clothes. I also just love popflex just because of the designs, I didn't even know of cassie until popflex
In a way this is a great example of how trying to follow what “everyone” wants, just leads you to a diluted, lowest common denominator result. In this case the result is yet more fast fashion. I wish she had used her big platform to instead educate people on why things are priced the way they are. Fair compensation and working conditions, the quality of the garments, etc.
We're all well aware why her things are priced the way they are. Knowing why something is priced at its price point doesn't automatically guarantee accessibility to the item. She was trying to make her products accessible to a wider audience and, in doing so, sacrifices will have to be made.
This is my first time watching your video as it popped up in my feed. I loved the thoughtful analysis (definitely hit subscribe!). I worked for a company called Duluth Trading over the holidays because I loved shopping there. While it is fast fashion, they have a one year return policy but send anything that cannot back on the floor to the outlet in Wisconsin. If there is a manufacturing defect such as a zipper defect and someone returns it, it is sent to the outlet. Things are santiized and sold for amazing prices! You would be surprised at what people buy and turn these pieces into! I love knowing that that company keeps so much out of the landfills. I really think that if a small business can do it, giant hyperstores owe us and the environment the same thing.
You found the right audience here! I really enjoyed your video. I saw this collaboration a while back but never followed up on what it was like. You’d did a great overview of the target collab and a mini intro to her standard line.
I got the sweats so I can keep my heater off. The intent is to cook and clean in then, change into them in dirty airport bathroom and shove into a carry on. So for this purpose it is fine.
Really love the chats and topics you cover on your channel. Sustainable fashion should be a concept more people are drawn to. Nice things are expensive, i get it… but really saving up for a “grail” durable piece is quite rewarding. Keep up the good work dude!
Nah girl, you made great points. I like how you went in-depth about both Target and Blogilates, it gave us a better understanding of both ends and their ties to fast-fashion. I didn't know that Cassie's company was anti-fast fashion, so that was nice to know. This was a very good vid overall! 👍
I bought $80 leggings from her line online and they were way worse quality than the $12 danskin ones at Costco. Price doesn’t have to equal quality. 🤷🏻♀️ my pop flex $80 leggings were more like tights and never fit correctly. I love Cassey for 10+ years now but at least being able to feel them in store will prevent me from spending a good chunk of change on poorly made clothes.
Personally I believe that is a big part of this issue as well! Expense =/= quality. It’s difficult enough to find ethically produced clothing, let alone pieces that are appealing, fit, etc. Throw into the mix the inability to know whether something is actually well-made, then it becomes easy to see why people have given up and just spend as little as possible.
@@sevensundrops yeah I also think that the bigger solution overall is to just buy less. Obviously people want to wear cute clothes but you save 100% of the money u dont spend :D
I love the popflex brand and I have 3 sets from it, but since it’s so expensive I bought them all from Poshmark for about 1/2 of the retail price. This stops these pieces from potentially ending up in a landfill as well as helps me save money. One day I plan on buying directly from popflex, but for now I’m sticking to second hand 😅 I also saw the target line and I was a little bummed about the quality but I understand why there’s a huge quality difference
This same mindset carries over into my area which is farming. People want chicken breast deboned and skinless and they want it for $2 a pound. A lot of work and money goes into raising chickens ethically and processing them ethically. It should not cost $2 a pound. It costs me more to feed a chicken for a week than people are paying for chicken raised in horrendous conditions. I also have to maintain my land and grow food in a manner that I believe is sustainable and that I feel safe feeding people. Food is not cheap to grow/ raise if it’s being done right.
i would love to see more videos like this!! your comments were very fair, you did a great job coming out of your comfort zone. i can't believe your channel isn't bigger, keep it up :)
I used to buy from Popflex, but realized that a lot of Cassey’s styles are not timeless. I ended up donating what I bought because the piece was no longer trendy and I outgrew the style. Even though she claims not to be fast fashion, I think her style is very niche and adheres to trends. I haven’t bought anything recently, but I read a lot of complaints about Popflex feeling low quality and fitting really strange. My suspicion is that she designs her pieces for her own body and taste first and foremost. That’s not a bad thing, and it only makes sense, why wouldn’t she design clothes that flatter her body. I just feel like her priority is virality rather than make HQ clothes. I don’t think any reputable athletic wear brand like Nike, UA, Lululemon would sell her clothes, because of her branding, style, and quality.
Anything can be styled, but the problem is that polyester clothing is not timeless. The skirt is actually the same as those 90s denim ones, every fashion comes back.
This is a very informative video. I learned so much about both brands and the sustainability aspect you mentioned at the end is very insightful. I hadn't thought about that. Thank you and best wishes on your monetization journey 🙌😍💖
i just honestly wish that the conversation about fast fashion actually kept individuals in mind that literally cannot afford high priced items because they have to afford simple necessities like groceries and gas. higher priced items like are deemed as a luxury but owing clothing should not be a luxury. i’m not about to crap on a person who will buy fast fashion leggings because they’re trying to ensure they have enough money to feed themselves and their kids
Yes, that is true. But most of the criticism towards fast fasion is because of the people who can afford nicer items, but choose to get quantity over quality. That quantity piles up in landfills and often comes from underpaid workers.
My argument to that we don't need a bunch of clothes. It is only a recent thing to buy clothes so often and have more than a core wardrobe. People made their basics and saved up for everything else.
it is a better financial decision to thrift vintage pieces or save up for a few new basics that will last you years than it is to buy cheap clothes that will turn to tissue paper after a few washes and need to be repurchased. i don’t think this argument really works if you consider that. most people buying fast fashion aren’t hardworking parents wondering how they’re going to make ends meet for their kids. people like that don’t buy new clothes at all.
The argument absolutely does work the moment you consider what life is like for actually poor people. Your argument has the assumption the person in question already has all the clothes they need. That is not inherently true. Finding vintage is very hard in thirst shops (and especially not for cheap) and it takes a lot of time to save up for higher quality products. The idea that fast fashion stuff is destroyed incredibly quickly is also just untrue yes it’s quicker than higher quality goods but things can definitely last for at a couple years if you aren’t rough with them. Which means it makes a lot of sense for someone with little extra money or time to buy fast fashion basics, especially because when you don’t have much money you don’t have 60 just lying around to drop on some leggings because yours ripped the other day you may have 10-15 and that might even be a stretch. Also sometimes people who don’t have a lot of money want to have something that looks nice so yeah will occasionally get something new they could survive without because it’s cheap enough to justify. Also you think a low income family with kids isn’t buying fast fashion clothes? lol they absolutely are, kids grow and are super rough with clothes.
I was thinking about this when I saw Casey release this line. I love sewing and sustaibility as well, I hope you get monetized soon! - A new subscriber
I have several pieces from PopFlex and have been SUPER happy with them. The quality has been excellent and they have held up with no pilling or anything like that. I was super excited that Target was introducing Cassie's clothing because I liked the idea of being able to try on things like the sports bras in person, but it did seem like after seeing the reviews that the quality I was looking for probably just wasn't there. I think ultimately this is going to hurt her image and brand and I'm sorry for that because I have truly enjoyed her workout videos as well as her PopFlex clothing pieces and the yoga mat I have from her (I have the really thick plushy one and it's amazing--has held up for a really long time and still looks brand new). I agree that we need to stop expecting every new article of clothing to be $5 or $10. In general, for those prices, corners are being cut and the people making the garments are definitely losing out. Of course you see the same kind of thing with expensive brands as well. It is frustrating as a consumer to not truly know the origins or working conditions of most things we buy. For me, if I can be assured that factory workers are treated well and paid fairly, I will definitely and gladly pay more for that garment, assuming the quality and fit are right as well. I can only assume that Cassie's team is having major headaches and sleepless nights over the negative reception of the Blogilates line at Target, specifically with the quality issues.
you did a good job so don't worry too much :) it was a nice video, well presented and your arguments were clear and didn't felt malicious at all! so good luck with your channel, i hope you can soon get monetized so you can both grow as a youtuber and get well deserved money for your wok
Great video, thanks for spreading this information. I would not have known these pieces were not her OG designs otherwise and now I’m apt to purchase from pop flex given their business ethics
Loved your take on the fast fashion and affordability. Can see your channel growing fast and you being one of the most popular commentary channels. You gave great potential:)
Thank you so much for this channel I literally found out about polyester and sustainability like two days ago and go rid of 90 percent of my family’s clothes planing on thrifting linen and cotton ect and get into sewing. This is awesome ha ha ha!
Popflex is expensive i bought items from them and i had to fork out shipping for returns and i regretted it but everyone kept hyping them up and i tried again and followed how the sizing should be and they were too big and couldnt return them mind you i live down under and american dollas aint cheap after that i said never again if i really want something i will go to my tried and trusted hate them if you will but Lulu is my go to since the sizes dont change and free returns
Not really, especially if you’re just buying one or two pieces, good quality is always worth it… Why couldn’t you return though? I never had a problem returning my clothes due to getting the wrong size😅
@@WiinterKitten I'm not sure if things have changed, but I know I heard a few years back, shipping to and from Australia can be extremely expensive. I think at the time average was about $60-$70 if not more. When the item you buy cost that much to ship, it would almost make more sense to try to resell it where you live rather than pay to ship it back.
@@WiinterKitten I'm assuming you don't live in Australia/New Zealand or know that much about living there. I don't live there but have Australian family & have visited before. It is extremely expensive to ship things there. Many people that live there don't return things because of that. & A lot of popular events/tours don't travel there because of the cost to get equipment & performers there
@@WiinterKitten they didnt specify that it was last sale and said i couldnt return this was when it was still beginning when she was branching out from pilates into more cute activewear..was an avid supporter then but not anymore after that will never buy ther again. The problem also was i had bought the og stuff she had and she said the sizes where adjusted and to size up from the size you got before so i did and it was too big
@@pileofjunkinc yup thats was the case even to get free shipping it was like 250 aud to get it and then if it didn’t fit then fork out more for shipping returns
This is such an important conversation, and something I’ve been grappling with myself about since the Target line came out. There are sacrifices that have to be made for the low cost point-including the environment-are the sacrifices worth it? Thanks for making this video, I’ve been looking for someone addressing these exact points!
Excellent video! I enjoyed your informative, well spoken, fair, thoughtful, researched thoroughly commentary. I enjoyed hearing your opinion and thought you presented it respectfully. I would love to watch other videos about this subject in the future.
great video! I firmly believe we vote with our $$ everyday. For some people fast fashion is all that is in the budget, but I think for most it's more like they want to buy three outfits instead of just one and until that changes fast fashion isn't going anywhere.
I think as consumers we have gotten so accustomed to overconsumption and constantly needing new clothes. People have the expectation that as soon as they want something they should be able to afford it and buy it immediately, instead of saving up for it. Our parents and grandparents also couldn't afford to impulsively buy clothes. Similarly, if something tore, it was the standard to stitch it up and fix, whereas now I personally don't know a single person who would do that. Instead it's always throw away and buy more. Having lots of clothes to choose from, unless you made them yourself, was always a luxury, not the standard. The argument of 'well clothes are essential so everyone should afford it" kind of feels out of place here, since most of blogilates products seem like very niche designs for very specific uses. None of these except maybe the hoodie are 'essential' for anyone. So I don't understand people putting their foot down and being like this very specifically designed workout skirt shouldn't cost $60? If you're truly are in the position where you can barely purchase clothes, these items are the least of your worries. Most of the people complaining could definitely afford it if they saved up. We need to stop treating clothes like disposables. Every time you buy new clothes it should be a thought out decision, not an impulsive purchase
Saving money is great and some people might have trouble saving up for big expenses, but I also think that it's worth paying a good amount for a quality piece that will last you years, instead of something that loses quality so fast that you'd want to replace it after a few months' use. Tbh if I really wanted a popflex item, I'd save up for it (and worst of all is I'd have to pay a lot of shipping cost I expect, that is one thing I do not enjoy spending a lot on )
There’s a disturbing trend of clothing makers to have only one pattern and completely scale it up. This results in ridiculously gigantic armholes for larger sizes. In menswear it results in ridiculously long sleeves in the larger sizes.
Hmmm. For me, a guy , cheap gym clothes seem to just hold up perfectly fine. All only worn at the gym tho. No rough surfaces, no bushes, branches, etc. I'm a guy that still could barely care less about fashion at the gym. Jogging shorts with inner pants are my favorite. Sometimes I'll just flush em under the shower for 2_3 sessions. Though i got enough to not start a wash just for gym pants. Range from literally 7 to 30 euro each. They hold up just fine. 7 was from a supermarket chain. I find if they, very occasionally offer shoes or sports clothing their 15-20 euro stuff is like 30-35 euro stuff you find all the time. Margins n all that i guess. Loss leader possibly.
Same, all my activewear is a mix of Costco, H&M move line, thrifted, just sport bras from Adidas... the issue is when you start buying into wanting to look cool. I bought a couple of The North Face items, because they were a steal second hand and next thing I knew, I had spent a fortune on "workout clothes" that were really just for looks. It may look like "fashion" around workout clothes is just a women's issue, but I work in tech, so for me the need of "presentable" activewear started in work trips, I didn't want to look "cute" but I wanted to look like I was in the know and put together, as my peers who were mostly guys, and they were into pretty expensive clothes. Guys can absolutely get sucked in too, but instead of "fashion" they get sold on "technical", getting the right "gear". To me the wake up call, was when I was looking into Arc'teryx stuff. Sure, it is amazing quality, but I couldn't justify it. Also, I'm not remotely close to needing that level of equipment, but it was easy to feel left out when everyone around me was wearing that stuff. PopFlex or Alo, may look more "frivolous" and they lean more into fashion but it's the same thing really.
This is why I started knitting and sewing my own clothes, I can control both the quality and the price, plus I can make exactly what I need and it'll fit me perfectly. Nowadays even the quality of none fast fashion items has gone significantly downhill, I dont want to support fast fashion but I also don't want to pay top dollar for something that still isn't going to last.
I saw the Blogilates collection at Target. At first, I was really excited! Then I took a closer look. The lilac color seemed off, the skirts not very puffy, some products seemed like they would TOTALLY give me that cameltoe effect, some fabrics were clearly already wrinkled already, etc. It just seemed like they used her designs and nothing that made it *special* was involved. I was so shocked when I realized that this was supposed to be similar to this brand with a cult-following. As a consumer, it made me think less of PopFlex. Now that I know the actual brand has better quality, I might just pick up the actual pieces from them. I guess that's a win?
I live in NZ and have no idea there's been a collab between Target and FlexPop, thank you for this great video. You've made some excellent points. To me whenever a brand states that they care about being sustainable, they are most likely using it to make more money. Unless they have been very transparent with their production process, which from my understanding, Popflex does not disclose. It is ironic to see the statement on their website, trying to differentiate themselves from fast fashion brands, and then going on to collab with the infamous Target. In the end, I think this is a great lesson to us all. The people behind these brands don't care about the environment, and Cathy probably don't care as much as we wish she does either. The best thing to do is to not buy, buy less, repair and mend, thrift second hand, and to use and appreciate the things we already have. Buying more of anything will never save the planet.
i loved this video and the discussion that's happening around fast fashion as someone who cares about sustainability/ethics and consumerism. i am one of the followers of cassey's work who feel that her products are out of my price bracket, but i think a view that wasn't really covered here was that of the people who don't want her to change her prices, they just want to be able to afford her items as-is. for many of us, fast fashion is not a choice but an inevitability given the current state of the economy. the reality for folks like me is that popflex is a luxury athleisure brand with luxury quality and luxury pricing. i want to be able to support brands like popflex and for them to not have to stoop to associating with fast fashion, but the cost of living is so high and i cannot afford to buy $100 leggings and foot the shipping bill (because i'm not usamerican) when i have to prioritise more important living expenses. everyone should be able to afford conflict-free clothing. everyone should be able to have good quality pieces made ethically to last. so many of us want this very badly. i don't need things to be cheap, i need them to be affordable. as in, change needs to happen to support people's basic needs so that we can afford to opt out of fast fashion and hyperconsumerism.
I understand that popflex’s price point may not be the most affordable thing for everybody (my mom even yelled at my little sister when she asked for a pair of Popflex leggings for Christmas this year, because “no one needs $60 leggings when you can get them for $8 on amazon”), but I think it’s unreasonable to expect that a company can produce items that are as high quality as popflex’s at a Target price range. If you want to own clothing that is well made, ethically made, thoughtfully designed, from high quality materials, and that will last many years, you just have to accept that it costs more money to create an item of clothing like that, so it will cost more to buy. There are certainly designer brands out there that charge an absurd amount of money for what is essentially fast fashion (Victoria’s Secret is one I think falls in this category-some of their pieces are high quality and well made, but so many aren’t, and even when they are, they’re almost always way too expensive for what they are-$120 for the bottom half of a bikini? You can’t even buy the whole set??), but Popflex isn’t one of those brands. Their items are all truly high quality items, I’ve ordered a lot of clothes from them, and I’ve never received anything damaged or with a mistake in it, they all come in perfect condition, and their price is very reasonable for the level of care and quality you’re getting. Cassie really seems to love designing, and she seems to take a lot of care to make sure her customers feel included and provided for, and to make sure her business isn’t contributing to terrible working conditions and mass pollution. Yes, it’s a higher price, but we vote with our dollars-choosing to buy more expensive leggings from Popflex when you could get them for a fraction of the price from Amazon, means you’re buying a better product that will last you longer, will probably function better, and you’ll know you aren’t contributing to fast fashion and unethical labor conditions with your purchase. I know not everyone can afford the Popflex price on their website, but the people who can have the option of supporting a real designer and a company that treats its employees well and takes a lot of consideration into how their clothes are made. In an ideal world, fast fashion wouldn’t exist, and we could all buy excellent clothes at a completely affordable price, without companies having to cut any corners to make it happen. But the reality is, it’s not possible to make clothes in such a short timeline on such a mass scale at such a low price without sacrificing quality of the clothes and worker’s quality of life. Something has to give-if you’re treating and compensating your employees well and using high quality materials, the price can only go so low. In order to meet Target’s price point, quality in terms of design and material had to be sacrificed to even out the cost. I really appreciate that Cassie wanted to bring her designs to more people at a lower price, but maybe it would be more successful if she partnered with a store that has slightly higher prices, so she wouldn’t have to sacrifice quality as much, like a department store or something. I also think Popflex having more control over the actual production and quality inspection of the clothes would lead to less mistakes and throw away items like that pirouette skort.
This! Besides what you just said, it's also important to point out that cassies designs are all original and designed for very specific uses. Nobody "needs" any of her stuff. People who genuinely can't afford to put clothes on their back are not even thinking about "damn I really need that flared ballerina workout skirt". Like??? Why are you people acting like she is selling white t shirts and jeans? We have been brainwashed by overconsumption and we have been accustomed to the idea that if we want something we need to buy it right away, and now people are mad about a $60 dollar custom designed skirt from a small business. If you really want it, save up for it, or keep it moving. If you can afford a monthly gym membership I guarantee you can afford to buy her stuff too.
I think a big part of the problem with the cost of living crisis is that people often can’t afford to spend $50 or more on a shirt that they need for their work and goodwill prices have skyrocketed while they’re selling fast fashion for the same price as new clothing some places. It’s becoming significantly harder to choose to be sustainable and make a livable wage that allows you to do so. Paying $35 for a skirt that isn’t made sustainably is already a stretch for some budgets let alone a $70 skirt or what have you. The whole system is designed to keep the rich rich at any and all costs
I agree but I also think as consumers we have gotten so accustomed to overconsumption and constantly needing new clothes. People have the expectation that as soon as they want something they should be able to afford it and buy it immediately, instead of saving up for it. Our parents and grandparents also couldn't afford to impulsively buy clothes. Similarly, if something tore, it was the standard to stitch it up and fix, whereas now I personally don't know a single person who would do that. Instead it's always throw away and buy more. Having lots of clothes to choose from, unless you made them yourself, was always a luxury, not the standard. The argument of 'well clothes are essential so everyone should afford it" kind of feels out of place here, since most of blogilates products seem like very niche designs for very specific uses. None of these except maybe the hoodie are 'essential' for anyone. So I don't understand people putting their foot down and being like this very specifically designed workout skirt shouldn't cost $60? If you're truly are in the position where you can barely purchase clothes, these items are the least of your worries. Most of the people complaining could definitely afford it if they saved up. We need to stop treating clothes like disposables. Every time you buy new clothes it should be a thought out decision, not an impulsive purchase.
Almost all of her activewear is made out of polyester so its fast fashion material anyway, weather its in a store and costs less or more online..... im not paying 80 buck for a polyester skirt. SHE USES SYNTHETIC FIBER ALMOST EVERYWHERE there is no excuse for that price. It sheds microplastics everywhere
I'm a seamstress. Polyester for activewear is one of the best materials to use. Its durable, comfort, and when you sweat in it you don't feel like you are getting swamp ass. It's why almost all activewear is a poly blend with maybe rayon/viscose /nylon for stretch. Before polyester was invented you had rayon blends and before that it was straight cotton and wool for athletic wear. Cotton for heavy sweating does not do well not wears as well until you weave it into heavy duty textile like denim but you then you loss flexibility
Synthetic fiber is not necessarily bad if it's high quality and durable. I don't know of a single active wear clothing brand that doesn't use some sort of Synthetic fiber, no matter how cheap or expensive. You can't get that level of stretch, compression, breathability with only organic stuff.
I am glad this video reached me!! I’m a sustainability minded person, but I’m also human, so I looked at some of the pieces at target 😂 but after watching this video, I’m so glad I didn’t get anything! This video makes me want to buy something from the original popflex line the next time I need to replace a piece of activewear. Thank you for your thorough discussion, and I just subscribed 🎉
you just got a new subscriber, great content and so important! have you seen the documentary “the true cost”? it opened my eyes back in 2015, and now as a sewist i am passionate about altering already existing items to make them new again 🥹🥹 great content!!!
+1 to "The True Cost". a great watch, highly recommend! Definitely a sobering introduction to some sad truths about the toll our fashion industry takes on the people who make it
I have heard of that documentary, it sounds right up my alley, thanks for the rec. This year I want to make more content around altering clothing so we can love them for a long time so I'm so glad you found my channel!
your video is great! i agree, by collaborating with target popflex is compromising on the ethics of the business and i wish she would have gone through a different avenue to bring her clothing to in-person shopping. maybe if she was going to work with a larger brand like target she could have chosen to balance it out with the materials she's using - e.g. create a 100% cotton/organic cotton range so that pieces have a lower environmental impact (biodegradable) when being brought into that mass-production, fast fashion environment.
Lol they wanted a cheaper version so bad 🤣 then proceed to be outraged there's holes, bad sewing and short lifetime of the clothes. I bet they wish they would've just bought the 60 dollar version, it's not even that much for such a good quality garment that will ACTUALLY last
I’m glad I found this. I ordered some pieces online, haven’t got them yet, but never heard of popflex until I dove in a rabbit hole. I would have bought from popflex instead of target but I hope I like what I get. Great video!
Wow, for a long time I’ve wanted one of her cloud hoodies or other items and was scared about the factory labor practices. Knowing that they have a third party auditor changes everything! Like I’m actually going to save to buy the higher priced item now because of your video ❤
I just saw the Target stuff yesterday, and saw a top I have but mine was more better quality. It was an interesting experience and made me more aware that I'm buying the more expensive one for quality
Awesome video 🎉 you give relevant information and commentary without putting anyone down. This is hard to come by these days since drama gets the clicks
I got the ballerina dress... the fabric barely covers my chest. Imma have to wear it with a t-shirt underneath or to go out with hubby... not to work out, lol 😅
10:55 That's been exactly my plan! My resources are microscopic (only three figures monthly and less than half of it can go to anything "not essential") But I will MAKE. IT. WORK!
This was an interesting video. I honestly can't afford pop flex, I do hope in the future her clothing line with target gets better and maybe one day I can buy something or at least I hope in the future Cassie finds a way to make affordable and good quality clothes. Because not everyone has the budget to buy pop flex. Thanks for the video.
The only way her Target line will get better is by increasing the price, which will present you with the exact same problem that you're currently having with Pop Flex: Pricing. 🫠 "Affordable" and "good quality" are rarely, if ever, in the same realm. You need to be willing to compromise and pick one or the other as opposed to expecting a brand to compromise for you. 🙄
If you can afford blogilates clothes, you can afford poodles clothes. You just don’t want to because that means saving money. Everyone who has like $3 left at the end of the month can afford popflex. I saved up on a dress for nearly 3 years. Producing better quality at a lower price point is basically impossible unless you use modern slavery.
really great video! Im planning to start a clothing bussiness and this gave some things to think about how to make the clothes to fit different sizes, also i really like her clothes too! I dont own anything tho bc im from latam so its expensive af. Thanks for your insight! You could do more like this, i would watch them :)
Imo, part of why she probably did it is because target already was duping her. Their in house stuff is ass so having her name on it is probably the only way they can boost sales
I think its fine. If I'm not mistaken, she has posted and discussed on how they managed to cut costs and visiting the overseas factory to ensure the quality and working conditions. I personally wouldn't be upset if this was the only launch she did for Target. I bought the green yoga pants and really enjoy them and if I became more interested in working out or find myself needing to replace the same active wear I've worn for over 10 years, I am more willing to pay extra for Popflex because I was able to touch the clothes and see the sizes.
To be honest, this was a *smart* business move, although the ethics are quite blurry. We may never know but I would think these pieces are the first or second sketch versions of existing pieces. Great video posing the video to the consumer, especially when the brand has expressed such strong ethical standards like what a shock!!!
Honestly I own like 5 pieces so far I like buying a few at a time I use my Afterpay a few once in a while and take advantage of sales my only issue is …. Wow they sale out so dame fast 😭. Definitely sticking with the online version but glad there something for those who wanted a more affordable option.
I was excited to try a piece on as a plus size gal but I touched it and immediately decided I was okay without it😢 I wanted a blue jumpsuit and a princess sport dress thingy, but wow the jumpsuit was so thin and cheap feeling 😢
I loved this video. Could you make another one recommending eshops for clothes that followed similar ethics? I feel its so hard nowadays to find good ones...
i understand how some people do fast fashion, especially with the rising cost of living nowadays. but I think that the majority of people who say this can go to thrift stores to buy stuff at the same or even lower prices.
Yeah I pop flex clothing and I was curious about the Target line, but decided to wait on reviews before I go and glad I didn’t buy anything. Everyone is talking about how the quality isn’t as good and it’s basically fast fashion.
The reason why Cassey did this is bc enough people complained that her ethical brand was too damn expensive. Having an affordable option sacrifices quality.
I’ve never really followed Cassie, but I’ve known about her clothing line for a while. I respect the Popflex ethos, but I think this cheap version (both in price, quality, and style) can’t do anything but hurt her credibility. Despite what anyone says about how nice her Popflex pieces are, I’ll never buy anything from the company since it now seems like she’s been lying about her values this whole time.
Well balanced review. ❤ I'm on the fence overall of trying popflex clothes. I thrift most things. Mostly of fairly high quality. I'm not in the camp of criers to small businesses for being too pricey. That's just rubbish! First world manufacturing of clothes makes a cotton circle skirt over $100 fairly priced. Alternately, Pact manufactures in certified Indian 🇮🇳 facilities and manages to price some incredibly great basics at easier prices with organic cotton. So there is some pricing possibility for some brands. I have no sympathy for the false customers pseudo fanbase demanding penny prices for current unworn fashions in huge overhead burden size ranges; while being unendingly ethical. Cassie created a diffusion line with Tar- jay for her diffusion price point audience. For potential customer conversion of whom would likely never buy her main line. Most people in the US don't have even $30 in an emergency fund. They honestly can't afford the Bloglaties products either.
whats annoying is that optimization of process *shouldn't* come at expense of quality. someone learning how to make their business easier on them while still delivering quality is what justifies any decision a business makes. optimization shouldnt mean "suddenly you all receive worse so that you all get it." it should mean "i made my ability to make this easier, so i am passing those savings onto you as the consumer." nowhere does that mean "i'm also cutting corners as well." my brain is broken so let's present an analogy for people like me who love them lol a baker is baking cookies and suddenly has a lot more they wanna make. the right choice would be to invest in a standing mixer and a bigger oven. but there are people who will cheap out and instead insist that they can cut their flour with sawdust and let the food warm in the sun to "make more at once." why are so many people not understanding the basics of business? well, the world was built on scams and awards malicious mediocrity lol small businesses *should* be the last people falling into these predatory business patterns. small businesses are morally held up by society with an inferred integrity and personability that really gets taken advantage of the second that they cut corners, but even worse when they still charge insane prices for poor products "because it's small business."
Even if you pay more used to have to research where and how the clothes were made at this point. I'm pretty much buying second hand with a few exceptions. Simply because I do want to get better quality clothes and I find always shopping for something more. Actually tiring as I have other things to do at my time. So yeah, I don't get the need if you're above the age of say 20 maybe 22 to perpetually buy cheap clothes and having to replace them every couple of weeks.
I can't afford blogolatis ever honestly coz I'm indian so currency exchange makes it 3 4 times extra hard for us but if I'm ever buying any of her design I would choose the original one if I love something I want the best version of it if I can't afford it's just I can't afford there is no point in getting a cheep version coz I know the reson I loved that product are not going to be in the cheap afford version like this case so their is no point in buying that
Mine are from SHEIN when I was in my activewear buying phase and 90% of the sets are totally fine, they’ve lasted years. Just one broke because I got it in a tight size
I can’t be the only one who thought the target line looked awful compared to the original pop flex… I’d rather have the more expensive one, it just looks better made
Finally! I've been waiting for someone to point out how it's hypocritical for the company to have a line with target. It 100% is fast fashion & 100% goes against what they have claimed to be their core beliefs. Also it bothers me that after all these years she hasn't acknowledged how she contributed negatively to diet culture & unrealistic body standards & years later has profited off of making an image of being all inclusive. If she's genuinely changed into those beliefs that's nice, though I feel it's important to own up to contributing to harmful beliefs even if in the past
ngl I used to follow her routines once upon a time but stopped because she gave me weird vibes. Got the impression she really hated her body before her sudden weight loss despite her mantra of “self-love no matter what you look like” and also publishing a super whiney post complaining about criticisms towards her turned me away very quickly
I found it unsettling how she would preach about her good quality and her beliefs against fast fashion, they always felt performantive and not genuine, I felt ashamed that I buy fast fashion items instead of saving up and buying for example one good pair of leggings when i can barely afford anything else
let's talk about how she also doesn't ever fix problems with her line too...size M/L sports bra? im a S in a sports bra and not a single tata fit in her M/L sizes, and i have a fairly large bust compared to by band size so i had to size up and she keeps making MORE and MORE without fixing problems in other products
Sure expensive stuff can last longer but half the time it doesnt, and at the end of the day if youre poor and need new clothes youre probably not financially ok with buying a 60-80 dollar pair of jeans or a hoodie plus whatever else you need and living expenses
Whenever you change the quality of fabric, it's important to go through the fit process again so it should be treated like a new product. Additionally, I believe the rompers and some of the dresses are new
I think you were pretty fair with your comments. Fast fashion has made people believe a shirt should cost $5, but somebody elsewhere is paying that cost with their quality of life :(
Exactly 😔
That’s because clothes are usually not better quality just because they’re more expensive. It’s harder these days to find things that actually last.
Some people cannot afford anything more expensive than that though.
It's so sad but I feel like even pricier options, the material is still bad and breaks easily. There's no winning, it's so disheartening
I think there are solutions people just don’t want to spend time looking. There’s plenty of small businesses willing to charge less for their labor just because they know people won’t buy them, there’s plenty of good quality clothing you can find from thrifting or eBay (and not depop because it’s overpriced by younger people) but people love convenience at someone’s exploitation as well. It takes time to find good items thrifting/it takes time for people to even unlearn to not follow trends. they also won’t try to make companies change with demand practices.
I think this is so important -- being a consumer that prioritizes buying "affordable" short-lived items (read: junk) -- rather than buying and using "expensive" quality items that last -- feels more expensive in the long run. And if we keep buying cheaply made things, we're just going to reinforce to these brands that they can keep selling us junk...
😔 it’s pretty disheartening when you really start to think about it
Well said! I've been trying to make the switch to quality, longer-lasting items and eliminating my reliance on things with a shorter lifespan.
It's been a few years since I ordered pop flex, but I remember their being some good 50% off sales on the last seasons designs.
i'm just buying all my clothes second hand. funnily most things there are of much higher quality than new clothes. found a great pair of jeans from the 70s and been wearing that for 10 years now XD
I buy cheap stuff and make them last for years, hardly go clothes shopping and have been using many of the same clothes from high school and college. Clothes have become more cheaply made so that could also be a factor. It could also be how you take care of your clothes, how you wash them and dry them. Another thing is I always buy at the end of the season when items are on sale, so it could be slightly better material but at a very low price. (Macy’s, JCPenney, old navy, Walmart, Charlotte Russe). That being said I haven’t shopped for clothes in like 5 years and mostly thrift now so quality of clothing must have gone down even more. Oh and I also wanted to note I’ve never been a huge fan of online shopping for clothes, mostly always bought in store where I feel and try the outfits on. Ive never purchased from websites like shein but I have bought stuff from forever21 and h&m who are also considered fast fashion, I’ve just taken good care of those clothes too
I feel like they went against what the brand stands for with this collection. They sacrificed quality control for a paycheck and mass produced even though they’re supposedly against fast fashion. It makes me trust the Popflex ethos a little less.
I think the fact that the line was a collaboration with Target instantly makes it fast fashion. There's no way the clothes are made with the same quality, and Target is just profitting off of Cassey and the brand she built with so much work. It's exploitation of Cassey and of everyone in the supply chain.
Is it true that it's exploitation if Cassey agreed to it? It's not like she was forced into the collaboration
@@moniquesutton7066I’d suggest looking into how Walmart pressures retailers to lower their prices. I have no doubts Target does the same thing. Yes, it can still be exploitation if she agreed to it; these companies will exploit anyone they can.
I feel like I don’t need to explain that lower buying cost = lower making cost = low quality … which is fast fashion.
@@moniquesutton7066yeah I don’t agree that she’s being exploited. more like she was bought.. she willingly decided to become part of the problem for a paycheck, which is disappointing.
She’s profiting off of this deal. How is it exploiting her? I wouldn’t even be surprised if she was the one who came up with the idea. Her fans had been asking her to make Popflex products more affordable for years.
@@moniquesutton7066fair,but I can also see her perspective as an artist/fashion designer. Getting picked up by big brands such as target can make on excited. Not excusing her from this but more understanding.
LOVED this!! and totally agree. i hate how companies like shein and temu have made people think that a pair of leggings should cost $10-$15. Real clothes that are made ethically and sustainably cost a lot more than that to make. We seriously need to change this mindset in our society for the sake of the people and environments fast fashion hurts
Big issue is, price doesn’t even mean quality, making it hard to shop without the product being physically infront of you. More times than not you’re paying for a brand not quality.
I don't agree with u.. coming from South Asia, where most of the clothes are manufactured... I feel like the clothes don't cost much to manufacture but it's the greedy capitalist companies that raise the prices 100 times to maximise their profits. The cost of living in South Asia is much lower than here in the U.S. Even doctors or engineers make only about $750-$1000 per month in South Asia, but they can live a comfortable life due to low cost of everything. So these companies pay good money to the laborers which is cheap compared to the U.S. .
@@ShG2022 Oh no I totally agree with you. Capitalist greed has definitely inflated prices greatly. It's a very unfortunate cycle. I was just making the point that in western societies it's very difficult to find quality pieces for low prices.
Watching try ons I noticed that almost all of the target collection isn’t made for those of us with big boobs. The pop flex line seems to take that into account more, I’m guessing because it’s an additional thing that would add more time to the design process and costs more. Clothing fit is more than just regular size/plus size.
It would be cool if one day there were clothes that take into consideration people with limb differences and disabilities like easy access for injections in the thighs of pants like a lil flap
LITERALLY! I had to return all of the sports bras. They give me an uncomfortable amount of cleavage and barely any support even with putting in inserts. I feel like only people B cup and below can actually work out in them.
@@ariaaustin and the necklines are cut so that you couldn’t even wear a regular bra if you wanted to! Major oversight.
Plus sized clothing costs pennies more to make, it’s just greed. That’s all.
I had some similar thoughts when i saw videos of people trying the target blogilates line. The clothes just seemed way more low quality than the popflex versions.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed!
i tried the clothes at target and didnt quite liked them. when i saw the videos i thought i would find similar opiniones but nope.
They are. I looked at them in person and I have several popflex pieces
@@busybila you state in your video that you aren’t trying to put anyone down but then proceed to like this comment and agree with it. Your video was absolutely useless
@@okok-uc8hithis comment wasn’t putting anyone down, though. It was just stating the fact that the clothes are lower quality, which literally the whole video was about
I've seen a surprising number of successful fashion designers getting pretentious about this issue. I've genuinely seen the phrase 'if you can't afford these prices, you shouldn't buy nice clothes-' completely ignoring how the obscene prices normalised in the clothing industry, particularly for disabled, trans and plus sized people, are the root of the problem. If people were just being lazy or stingy that would be one thing, but we are in a cost of living crisis era with some of the worst, most prevalent poverty with the least support in modern history. People don't shop at, say, walmart out of choice.
Thank you for the nuance and decency you display here, placing the responsibility where it belongs.
:( it makes me sad. My clothes are torn because I can’t afford new clothes on a disability pension especially with my medicine not all being covered and I’ve been escaping DV which has taken even more money having to move emergency. It makes you feel awful having holes in stuff cause you get all self conscious and hyperaware of if they are showing badly in that moment and the elastic of stuff has gotten all loose and I can’t wear them anymore
@@chattychatotchannelgosh, I am so sorry. Is it possible for you to learn clothes mending.
Not to mention thrift stores are expensive now (or super dirty like at the Goodwill bins)
@I.am.hooked I have been fixing things but some materials have trouble with holes reopening like stretch materials I've found are trickier to sew back. I think I need more practice. I have a place of my own now so I'm hoping I can set up a sewing machine and learn to sew things and make some clothes too like basic skirts with fabrics that make me happy cause it'll be cheap but I'm also a bit scared of people being mean to me but I guess it's all just practice
@ Yes, getting a sewing machine is a good idea. I am thinking of getting one too. Don’t be scared, you got this!.😇❤️❤️
I’m about to turn 45 next month and the older I’ve gotten, I find myself really searching and being picky about the materials of the clothing I buy. I own a lot of 100% cotton, silk, wool, linen, etc. It lasts longer, wears more comfortably, and is more sustainable.
SHEIN, Temu, Forever 21; they are all skewing people’s thinking about quality.
Cheaper is not always better, but it’s what most people can afford these days, and these companies know it.
I fear in the future there is just going to be EXTREMELY cheap OR extremely EXPENSIVE options. Pushing out the middle man is not always the answer.
I absolutely agree. I’m 50 and I don’t have a closet full of handbags, I have 3 leather bags that were hand made for me and the quality is well beyond what the designers offer. I paid more for handmade quality but they will still be in great condition a hundred years from now if properly cared for. My style is classic so I don’t have to replace clothing every couple of years as trends change. And you are so right about material choices, cotton, linen, wool, silk, that’s what stands the test of time. I’ll take a curated closet over fast fashion any day of the week.
I think it's way more complex problem that stems from consumerism. People have way too much clothes nowadays and are more likely to buy more low-quality items that will tear pretty quickly. Rather than buying something that will last for years for a higher price. We forgot that a big wardrobe was a LUXURY not something everyone had. I get it, it's a dream to have many options, try different aesthetics etc. But it started getting way out control. Just compare how much clothes older generation had (your parents for example) and how much a modern person has. That's not even close.
Now people complain if the price is slightly higher than on Sh*in. Smaller local business can't compete with its prices. There's no way. The only thing they can do is to use cheaper materials which of course will affect the final result. And then we wonder why it's so hard to find something good. Because fast fashion cause overall quality drop. And we're the ones to blame.
This! So many of us can't afford to keep up with trends if we buy sustainably. But if we just purchase less we can. Participating in trends is not a basic human right. These trends exist only to make the rich richer.
I agree with this. Having a huge wardrobe or a new outfit for every special occasion is a recent norm.
Yeah, realizing how much work quality clothes need and it made me want to learn how to sew and make my own clothes. I also just love popflex just because of the designs, I didn't even know of cassie until popflex
In a way this is a great example of how trying to follow what “everyone” wants, just leads you to a diluted, lowest common denominator result.
In this case the result is yet more fast fashion. I wish she had used her big platform to instead educate people on why things are priced the way they are. Fair compensation and working conditions, the quality of the garments, etc.
We're all well aware why her things are priced the way they are. Knowing why something is priced at its price point doesn't automatically guarantee accessibility to the item. She was trying to make her products accessible to a wider audience and, in doing so, sacrifices will have to be made.
This is my first time watching your video as it popped up in my feed. I loved the thoughtful analysis (definitely hit subscribe!). I worked for a company called Duluth Trading over the holidays because I loved shopping there. While it is fast fashion, they have a one year return policy but send anything that cannot back on the floor to the outlet in Wisconsin. If there is a manufacturing defect such as a zipper defect and someone returns it, it is sent to the outlet.
Things are santiized and sold for amazing prices! You would be surprised at what people buy and turn these pieces into! I love knowing that that company keeps so much out of the landfills. I really think that if a small business can do it, giant hyperstores owe us and the environment the same thing.
You found the right audience here! I really enjoyed your video. I saw this collaboration a while back but never followed up on what it was like. You’d did a great overview of the target collab and a mini intro to her standard line.
I'm so glad this video is hitting the right audience! Thanks for your support!
Oh I'm so glad someone made a video comparing the quality!
Thank you!! So I can be a more mindful buyer
Being a more mindful buyer is the goal! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video
I got the sweats so I can keep my heater off. The intent is to cook and clean in then, change into them in dirty airport bathroom and shove into a carry on. So for this purpose it is fine.
It sounds like you're getting good use out of them!
Really love the chats and topics you cover on your channel. Sustainable fashion should be a concept more people are drawn to. Nice things are expensive, i get it… but really saving up for a “grail” durable piece is quite rewarding. Keep up the good work dude!
Nah girl, you made great points. I like how you went in-depth about both Target and Blogilates, it gave us a better understanding of both ends and their ties to fast-fashion. I didn't know that Cassie's company was anti-fast fashion, so that was nice to know. This was a very good vid overall! 👍
I bought $80 leggings from her line online and they were way worse quality than the $12 danskin ones at Costco. Price doesn’t have to equal quality. 🤷🏻♀️ my pop flex $80 leggings were more like tights and never fit correctly. I love Cassey for 10+ years now but at least being able to feel them in store will prevent me from spending a good chunk of change on poorly made clothes.
This too!
Personally I believe that is a big part of this issue as well! Expense =/= quality. It’s difficult enough to find ethically produced clothing, let alone pieces that are appealing, fit, etc. Throw into the mix the inability to know whether something is actually well-made, then it becomes easy to see why people have given up and just spend as little as possible.
@@sevensundrops yeah I also think that the bigger solution overall is to just buy less. Obviously people want to wear cute clothes but you save 100% of the money u dont spend :D
I love the popflex brand and I have 3 sets from it, but since it’s so expensive I bought them all from Poshmark for about 1/2 of the retail price. This stops these pieces from potentially ending up in a landfill as well as helps me save money. One day I plan on buying directly from popflex, but for now I’m sticking to second hand 😅 I also saw the target line and I was a little bummed about the quality but I understand why there’s a huge quality difference
This same mindset carries over into my area which is farming. People want chicken breast deboned and skinless and they want it for $2 a pound. A lot of work and money goes into raising chickens ethically and processing them ethically. It should not cost $2 a pound. It costs me more to feed a chicken for a week than people are paying for chicken raised in horrendous conditions. I also have to maintain my land and grow food in a manner that I believe is sustainable and that I feel safe feeding people. Food is not cheap to grow/ raise if it’s being done right.
i would love to see more videos like this!! your comments were very fair, you did a great job coming out of your comfort zone. i can't believe your channel isn't bigger, keep it up :)
I used to buy from Popflex, but realized that a lot of Cassey’s styles are not timeless. I ended up donating what I bought because the piece was no longer trendy and I outgrew the style. Even though she claims not to be fast fashion, I think her style is very niche and adheres to trends. I haven’t bought anything recently, but I read a lot of complaints about Popflex feeling low quality and fitting really strange. My suspicion is that she designs her pieces for her own body and taste first and foremost. That’s not a bad thing, and it only makes sense, why wouldn’t she design clothes that flatter her body. I just feel like her priority is virality rather than make HQ clothes. I don’t think any reputable athletic wear brand like Nike, UA, Lululemon would sell her clothes, because of her branding, style, and quality.
Anything can be styled, but the problem is that polyester clothing is not timeless. The skirt is actually the same as those 90s denim ones, every fashion comes back.
This is a very informative video. I learned so much about both brands and the sustainability aspect you mentioned at the end is very insightful. I hadn't thought about that. Thank you and best wishes on your monetization journey 🙌😍💖
i just honestly wish that the conversation about fast fashion actually kept individuals in mind that literally cannot afford high priced items because they have to afford simple necessities like groceries and gas. higher priced items like are deemed as a luxury but owing clothing should not be a luxury. i’m not about to crap on a person who will buy fast fashion leggings because they’re trying to ensure they have enough money to feed themselves and their kids
Yes, that is true. But most of the criticism towards fast fasion is because of the people who can afford nicer items, but choose to get quantity over quality. That quantity piles up in landfills and often comes from underpaid workers.
My argument to that we don't need a bunch of clothes. It is only a recent thing to buy clothes so often and have more than a core wardrobe. People made their basics and saved up for everything else.
But the fast fashion products seems to only last a few months if lucky with regular use…
it is a better financial decision to thrift vintage pieces or save up for a few new basics that will last you years than it is to buy cheap clothes that will turn to tissue paper after a few washes and need to be repurchased. i don’t think this argument really works if you consider that. most people buying fast fashion aren’t hardworking parents wondering how they’re going to make ends meet for their kids. people like that don’t buy new clothes at all.
The argument absolutely does work the moment you consider what life is like for actually poor people. Your argument has the assumption the person in question already has all the clothes they need. That is not inherently true.
Finding vintage is very hard in thirst shops (and especially not for cheap) and it takes a lot of time to save up for higher quality products. The idea that fast fashion stuff is destroyed incredibly quickly is also just untrue yes it’s quicker than higher quality goods but things can definitely last for at a couple years if you aren’t rough with them. Which means it makes a lot of sense for someone with little extra money or time to buy fast fashion basics, especially because when you don’t have much money you don’t have 60 just lying around to drop on some leggings because yours ripped the other day you may have 10-15 and that might even be a stretch. Also sometimes people who don’t have a lot of money want to have something that looks nice so yeah will occasionally get something new they could survive without because it’s cheap enough to justify.
Also you think a low income family with kids isn’t buying fast fashion clothes? lol they absolutely are, kids grow and are super rough with clothes.
I was thinking about this when I saw Casey release this line. I love sewing and sustaibility as well, I hope you get monetized soon! - A new subscriber
I have several pieces from PopFlex and have been SUPER happy with them. The quality has been excellent and they have held up with no pilling or anything like that. I was super excited that Target was introducing Cassie's clothing because I liked the idea of being able to try on things like the sports bras in person, but it did seem like after seeing the reviews that the quality I was looking for probably just wasn't there. I think ultimately this is going to hurt her image and brand and I'm sorry for that because I have truly enjoyed her workout videos as well as her PopFlex clothing pieces and the yoga mat I have from her (I have the really thick plushy one and it's amazing--has held up for a really long time and still looks brand new). I agree that we need to stop expecting every new article of clothing to be $5 or $10. In general, for those prices, corners are being cut and the people making the garments are definitely losing out. Of course you see the same kind of thing with expensive brands as well. It is frustrating as a consumer to not truly know the origins or working conditions of most things we buy. For me, if I can be assured that factory workers are treated well and paid fairly, I will definitely and gladly pay more for that garment, assuming the quality and fit are right as well. I can only assume that Cassie's team is having major headaches and sleepless nights over the negative reception of the Blogilates line at Target, specifically with the quality issues.
you did a good job so don't worry too much :) it was a nice video, well presented and your arguments were clear and didn't felt malicious at all! so good luck with your channel, i hope you can soon get monetized so you can both grow as a youtuber and get well deserved money for your wok
Great video, thanks for spreading this information. I would not have known these pieces were not her OG designs otherwise and now I’m apt to purchase from pop flex given their business ethics
Loved your take on the fast fashion and affordability. Can see your channel growing fast and you being one of the most popular commentary channels. You gave great potential:)
Thank you so much for this channel I literally found out about polyester and sustainability like two days ago and go rid of 90 percent of my family’s clothes planing on thrifting linen and cotton ect and get into sewing. This is awesome ha ha ha!
Popflex is expensive i bought items from them and i had to fork out shipping for returns and i regretted it but everyone kept hyping them up and i tried again and followed how the sizing should be and they were too big and couldnt return them mind you i live down under and american dollas aint cheap after that i said never again if i really want something i will go to my tried and trusted hate them if you will but Lulu is my go to since the sizes dont change and free returns
Not really, especially if you’re just buying one or two pieces, good quality is always worth it…
Why couldn’t you return though? I never had a problem returning my clothes due to getting the wrong size😅
@@WiinterKitten I'm not sure if things have changed, but I know I heard a few years back, shipping to and from Australia can be extremely expensive. I think at the time average was about $60-$70 if not more.
When the item you buy cost that much to ship, it would almost make more sense to try to resell it where you live rather than pay to ship it back.
@@WiinterKitten I'm assuming you don't live in Australia/New Zealand or know that much about living there. I don't live there but have Australian family & have visited before. It is extremely expensive to ship things there. Many people that live there don't return things because of that. & A lot of popular events/tours don't travel there because of the cost to get equipment & performers there
@@WiinterKitten they didnt specify that it was last sale and said i couldnt return this was when it was still beginning when she was branching out from pilates into more cute activewear..was an avid supporter then but not anymore after that will never buy ther again. The problem also was i had bought the og stuff she had and she said the sizes where adjusted and to size up from the size you got before so i did and it was too big
@@pileofjunkinc yup thats was the case even to get free shipping it was like 250 aud to get it and then if it didn’t fit then fork out more for shipping returns
This is such an important conversation, and something I’ve been grappling with myself about since the Target line came out. There are sacrifices that have to be made for the low cost point-including the environment-are the sacrifices worth it? Thanks for making this video, I’ve been looking for someone addressing these exact points!
Excellent video! I enjoyed your informative, well spoken, fair, thoughtful, researched thoroughly commentary. I enjoyed hearing your opinion and thought you presented it respectfully. I would love to watch other videos about this subject in the future.
great video! I firmly believe we vote with our $$ everyday. For some people fast fashion is all that is in the budget, but I think for most it's more like they want to buy three outfits instead of just one and until that changes fast fashion isn't going anywhere.
Great straight to the point information!! Keep up the good work we need creators like you! 🎉
You did great explaining your speculations without offending and just putting out your view, which made me think really,! Keep going !!
I think as consumers we have gotten so accustomed to overconsumption and constantly needing new clothes. People have the expectation that as soon as they want something they should be able to afford it and buy it immediately, instead of saving up for it. Our parents and grandparents also couldn't afford to impulsively buy clothes. Similarly, if something tore, it was the standard to stitch it up and fix, whereas now I personally don't know a single person who would do that. Instead it's always throw away and buy more. Having lots of clothes to choose from, unless you made them yourself, was always a luxury, not the standard.
The argument of 'well clothes are essential so everyone should afford it" kind of feels out of place here, since most of blogilates products seem like very niche designs for very specific uses. None of these except maybe the hoodie are 'essential' for anyone. So I don't understand people putting their foot down and being like this very specifically designed workout skirt shouldn't cost $60? If you're truly are in the position where you can barely purchase clothes, these items are the least of your worries. Most of the people complaining could definitely afford it if they saved up. We need to stop treating clothes like disposables. Every time you buy new clothes it should be a thought out decision, not an impulsive purchase
Saving money is great and some people might have trouble saving up for big expenses, but I also think that it's worth paying a good amount for a quality piece that will last you years, instead of something that loses quality so fast that you'd want to replace it after a few months' use. Tbh if I really wanted a popflex item, I'd save up for it (and worst of all is I'd have to pay a lot of shipping cost I expect, that is one thing I do not enjoy spending a lot on )
Ngl, if she had an in store drop in my country I would definitely try out the sports bras. I would love to be able to run with pain
I think you reached the right audience and you have a new subscriber! I have some pop flex pieces but I think I’ll pass on the target line
There’s a disturbing trend of clothing makers to have only one pattern and completely scale it up. This results in ridiculously gigantic armholes for larger sizes. In menswear it results in ridiculously long sleeves in the larger sizes.
Hmmm. For me, a guy , cheap gym clothes seem to just hold up perfectly fine. All only worn at the gym tho. No rough surfaces, no bushes, branches, etc. I'm a guy that still could barely care less about fashion at the gym. Jogging shorts with inner pants are my favorite. Sometimes I'll just flush em under the shower for 2_3 sessions. Though i got enough to not start a wash just for gym pants. Range from literally 7 to 30 euro each. They hold up just fine. 7 was from a supermarket chain. I find if they, very occasionally offer shoes or sports clothing their 15-20 euro stuff is like 30-35 euro stuff you find all the time. Margins n all that i guess. Loss leader possibly.
Yep for me too, I bought some Primark activewear - the proper sports stuff (leggings and tops) 3 years ago and I'm still wearing them.
Same, all my activewear is a mix of Costco, H&M move line, thrifted, just sport bras from Adidas... the issue is when you start buying into wanting to look cool. I bought a couple of The North Face items, because they were a steal second hand and next thing I knew, I had spent a fortune on "workout clothes" that were really just for looks.
It may look like "fashion" around workout clothes is just a women's issue, but I work in tech, so for me the need of "presentable" activewear started in work trips, I didn't want to look "cute" but I wanted to look like I was in the know and put together, as my peers who were mostly guys, and they were into pretty expensive clothes. Guys can absolutely get sucked in too, but instead of "fashion" they get sold on "technical", getting the right "gear".
To me the wake up call, was when I was looking into Arc'teryx stuff. Sure, it is amazing quality, but I couldn't justify it. Also, I'm not remotely close to needing that level of equipment, but it was easy to feel left out when everyone around me was wearing that stuff.
PopFlex or Alo, may look more "frivolous" and they lean more into fashion but it's the same thing really.
This is why I started knitting and sewing my own clothes, I can control both the quality and the price, plus I can make exactly what I need and it'll fit me perfectly. Nowadays even the quality of none fast fashion items has gone significantly downhill, I dont want to support fast fashion but I also don't want to pay top dollar for something that still isn't going to last.
I saw the Blogilates collection at Target. At first, I was really excited! Then I took a closer look. The lilac color seemed off, the skirts not very puffy, some products seemed like they would TOTALLY give me that cameltoe effect, some fabrics were clearly already wrinkled already, etc. It just seemed like they used her designs and nothing that made it *special* was involved. I was so shocked when I realized that this was supposed to be similar to this brand with a cult-following. As a consumer, it made me think less of PopFlex. Now that I know the actual brand has better quality, I might just pick up the actual pieces from them. I guess that's a win?
I live in NZ and have no idea there's been a collab between Target and FlexPop, thank you for this great video. You've made some excellent points. To me whenever a brand states that they care about being sustainable, they are most likely using it to make more money. Unless they have been very transparent with their production process, which from my understanding, Popflex does not disclose. It is ironic to see the statement on their website, trying to differentiate themselves from fast fashion brands, and then going on to collab with the infamous Target. In the end, I think this is a great lesson to us all. The people behind these brands don't care about the environment, and Cathy probably don't care as much as we wish she does either. The best thing to do is to not buy, buy less, repair and mend, thrift second hand, and to use and appreciate the things we already have. Buying more of anything will never save the planet.
I really liked this video! I don’t know much about the business/production side to making clothes, so i appreciate you talking about this
Thanks for watching, I'm glad this video was able to shed some light on the production side of the industry!
This is actually pretty insightful. I think you were absolutely fair with the way you laid this out.
i loved this video and the discussion that's happening around fast fashion as someone who cares about sustainability/ethics and consumerism. i am one of the followers of cassey's work who feel that her products are out of my price bracket, but i think a view that wasn't really covered here was that of the people who don't want her to change her prices, they just want to be able to afford her items as-is. for many of us, fast fashion is not a choice but an inevitability given the current state of the economy. the reality for folks like me is that popflex is a luxury athleisure brand with luxury quality and luxury pricing. i want to be able to support brands like popflex and for them to not have to stoop to associating with fast fashion, but the cost of living is so high and i cannot afford to buy $100 leggings and foot the shipping bill (because i'm not usamerican) when i have to prioritise more important living expenses. everyone should be able to afford conflict-free clothing. everyone should be able to have good quality pieces made ethically to last. so many of us want this very badly. i don't need things to be cheap, i need them to be affordable. as in, change needs to happen to support people's basic needs so that we can afford to opt out of fast fashion and hyperconsumerism.
I understand that popflex’s price point may not be the most affordable thing for everybody (my mom even yelled at my little sister when she asked for a pair of Popflex leggings for Christmas this year, because “no one needs $60 leggings when you can get them for $8 on amazon”), but I think it’s unreasonable to expect that a company can produce items that are as high quality as popflex’s at a Target price range. If you want to own clothing that is well made, ethically made, thoughtfully designed, from high quality materials, and that will last many years, you just have to accept that it costs more money to create an item of clothing like that, so it will cost more to buy. There are certainly designer brands out there that charge an absurd amount of money for what is essentially fast fashion (Victoria’s Secret is one I think falls in this category-some of their pieces are high quality and well made, but so many aren’t, and even when they are, they’re almost always way too expensive for what they are-$120 for the bottom half of a bikini? You can’t even buy the whole set??), but Popflex isn’t one of those brands. Their items are all truly high quality items, I’ve ordered a lot of clothes from them, and I’ve never received anything damaged or with a mistake in it, they all come in perfect condition, and their price is very reasonable for the level of care and quality you’re getting. Cassie really seems to love designing, and she seems to take a lot of care to make sure her customers feel included and provided for, and to make sure her business isn’t contributing to terrible working conditions and mass pollution. Yes, it’s a higher price, but we vote with our dollars-choosing to buy more expensive leggings from Popflex when you could get them for a fraction of the price from Amazon, means you’re buying a better product that will last you longer, will probably function better, and you’ll know you aren’t contributing to fast fashion and unethical labor conditions with your purchase. I know not everyone can afford the Popflex price on their website, but the people who can have the option of supporting a real designer and a company that treats its employees well and takes a lot of consideration into how their clothes are made. In an ideal world, fast fashion wouldn’t exist, and we could all buy excellent clothes at a completely affordable price, without companies having to cut any corners to make it happen. But the reality is, it’s not possible to make clothes in such a short timeline on such a mass scale at such a low price without sacrificing quality of the clothes and worker’s quality of life. Something has to give-if you’re treating and compensating your employees well and using high quality materials, the price can only go so low. In order to meet Target’s price point, quality in terms of design and material had to be sacrificed to even out the cost. I really appreciate that Cassie wanted to bring her designs to more people at a lower price, but maybe it would be more successful if she partnered with a store that has slightly higher prices, so she wouldn’t have to sacrifice quality as much, like a department store or something. I also think Popflex having more control over the actual production and quality inspection of the clothes would lead to less mistakes and throw away items like that pirouette skort.
This! Besides what you just said, it's also important to point out that cassies designs are all original and designed for very specific uses. Nobody "needs" any of her stuff. People who genuinely can't afford to put clothes on their back are not even thinking about "damn I really need that flared ballerina workout skirt". Like??? Why are you people acting like she is selling white t shirts and jeans? We have been brainwashed by overconsumption and we have been accustomed to the idea that if we want something we need to buy it right away, and now people are mad about a $60 dollar custom designed skirt from a small business. If you really want it, save up for it, or keep it moving. If you can afford a monthly gym membership I guarantee you can afford to buy her stuff too.
I think a big part of the problem with the cost of living crisis is that people often can’t afford to spend $50 or more on a shirt that they need for their work and goodwill prices have skyrocketed while they’re selling fast fashion for the same price as new clothing some places. It’s becoming significantly harder to choose to be sustainable and make a livable wage that allows you to do so. Paying $35 for a skirt that isn’t made sustainably is already a stretch for some budgets let alone a $70 skirt or what have you. The whole system is designed to keep the rich rich at any and all costs
I agree but I also think as consumers we have gotten so accustomed to overconsumption and constantly needing new clothes. People have the expectation that as soon as they want something they should be able to afford it and buy it immediately, instead of saving up for it. Our parents and grandparents also couldn't afford to impulsively buy clothes. Similarly, if something tore, it was the standard to stitch it up and fix, whereas now I personally don't know a single person who would do that. Instead it's always throw away and buy more. Having lots of clothes to choose from, unless you made them yourself, was always a luxury, not the standard.
The argument of 'well clothes are essential so everyone should afford it" kind of feels out of place here, since most of blogilates products seem like very niche designs for very specific uses. None of these except maybe the hoodie are 'essential' for anyone. So I don't understand people putting their foot down and being like this very specifically designed workout skirt shouldn't cost $60? If you're truly are in the position where you can barely purchase clothes, these items are the least of your worries. Most of the people complaining could definitely afford it if they saved up. We need to stop treating clothes like disposables. Every time you buy new clothes it should be a thought out decision, not an impulsive purchase.
Almost all of her activewear is made out of polyester so its fast fashion material anyway, weather its in a store and costs less or more online..... im not paying 80 buck for a polyester skirt. SHE USES SYNTHETIC FIBER ALMOST EVERYWHERE there is no excuse for that price. It sheds microplastics everywhere
Her team is paid a liveable wage, hence the "excuse" for the price.
I'm a seamstress. Polyester for activewear is one of the best materials to use. Its durable, comfort, and when you sweat in it you don't feel like you are getting swamp ass. It's why almost all activewear is a poly blend with maybe rayon/viscose /nylon for stretch. Before polyester was invented you had rayon blends and before that it was straight cotton and wool for athletic wear. Cotton for heavy sweating does not do well not wears as well until you weave it into heavy duty textile like denim but you then you loss flexibility
Synthetic fiber is not necessarily bad if it's high quality and durable. I don't know of a single active wear clothing brand that doesn't use some sort of Synthetic fiber, no matter how cheap or expensive. You can't get that level of stretch, compression, breathability with only organic stuff.
I am glad this video reached me!! I’m a sustainability minded person, but I’m also human, so I looked at some of the pieces at target 😂 but after watching this video, I’m so glad I didn’t get anything! This video makes me want to buy something from the original popflex line the next time I need to replace a piece of activewear. Thank you for your thorough discussion, and I just subscribed 🎉
you just got a new subscriber, great content and so important! have you seen the documentary “the true cost”? it opened my eyes back in 2015, and now as a sewist i am passionate about altering already existing items to make them new again 🥹🥹 great content!!!
+1 to "The True Cost". a great watch, highly recommend! Definitely a sobering introduction to some sad truths about the toll our fashion industry takes on the people who make it
I have heard of that documentary, it sounds right up my alley, thanks for the rec. This year I want to make more content around altering clothing so we can love them for a long time so I'm so glad you found my channel!
your video is great! i agree, by collaborating with target popflex is compromising on the ethics of the business and i wish she would have gone through a different avenue to bring her clothing to in-person shopping. maybe if she was going to work with a larger brand like target she could have chosen to balance it out with the materials she's using - e.g. create a 100% cotton/organic cotton range so that pieces have a lower environmental impact (biodegradable) when being brought into that mass-production, fast fashion environment.
I would have loved to see pop ups featuring the Popflex in a more sustainable way too, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one thinking this!
Lol they wanted a cheaper version so bad 🤣 then proceed to be outraged there's holes, bad sewing and short lifetime of the clothes. I bet they wish they would've just bought the 60 dollar version, it's not even that much for such a good quality garment that will ACTUALLY last
I’m glad I found this. I ordered some pieces online, haven’t got them yet, but never heard of popflex until I dove in a rabbit hole. I would have bought from popflex instead of target but I hope I like what I get. Great video!
I went to touch the fabric and automatically said "nope" I will save money to buy the real one.
Have a happy new year BusyBila
Happy New Year!
Wow, for a long time I’ve wanted one of her cloud hoodies or other items and was scared about the factory labor practices. Knowing that they have a third party auditor changes everything! Like I’m actually going to save to buy the higher priced item now because of your video ❤
Great work, commentary on this business was needed on TH-cam
I just saw the Target stuff yesterday, and saw a top I have but mine was more better quality. It was an interesting experience and made me more aware that I'm buying the more expensive one for quality
Great information to have . Thanks for sharing . ❤️❤️🙏🙏
Thanks for watching! ❤️
Awesome video 🎉 you give relevant information and commentary without putting anyone down. This is hard to come by these days since drama gets the clicks
I got the ballerina dress... the fabric barely covers my chest. Imma have to wear it with a t-shirt underneath or to go out with hubby... not to work out, lol 😅
i enjoy these research videos, the standard format with todays topics
i think its the style of journalism we need😸
This was an extremely fair and accurate analysis well done !!! 👍👍👍
10:55 That's been exactly my plan! My resources are
microscopic (only three figures monthly and less than half of it can go to anything "not essential") But I will MAKE. IT. WORK!
This was an interesting video. I honestly can't afford pop flex, I do hope in the future her clothing line with target gets better and maybe one day I can buy something or at least I hope in the future Cassie finds a way to make affordable and good quality clothes. Because not everyone has the budget to buy pop flex. Thanks for the video.
The only way her Target line will get better is by increasing the price, which will present you with the exact same problem that you're currently having with Pop Flex: Pricing. 🫠
"Affordable" and "good quality" are rarely, if ever, in the same realm. You need to be willing to compromise and pick one or the other as opposed to expecting a brand to compromise for you. 🙄
If you can afford blogilates clothes, you can afford poodles clothes. You just don’t want to because that means saving money. Everyone who has like $3 left at the end of the month can afford popflex. I saved up on a dress for nearly 3 years.
Producing better quality at a lower price point is basically impossible unless you use modern slavery.
great video, you're very articulate and made great points !
really great video! Im planning to start a clothing bussiness and this gave some things to think about how to make the clothes to fit different sizes, also i really like her clothes too! I dont own anything tho bc im from latam so its expensive af. Thanks for your insight! You could do more like this, i would watch them :)
Imo, part of why she probably did it is because target already was duping her. Their in house stuff is ass so having her name on it is probably the only way they can boost sales
I think its fine. If I'm not mistaken, she has posted and discussed on how they managed to cut costs and visiting the overseas factory to ensure the quality and working conditions. I personally wouldn't be upset if this was the only launch she did for Target. I bought the green yoga pants and really enjoy them and if I became more interested in working out or find myself needing to replace the same active wear I've worn for over 10 years, I am more willing to pay extra for Popflex because I was able to touch the clothes and see the sizes.
To be honest, this was a *smart* business move, although the ethics are quite blurry. We may never know but I would think these pieces are the first or second sketch versions of existing pieces. Great video posing the video to the consumer, especially when the brand has expressed such strong ethical standards like what a shock!!!
That was interesting, thoughtful and thought provoking analysis. Excellent work.
Honestly I own like 5 pieces so far I like buying a few at a time I use my Afterpay a few once in a while and take advantage of sales my only issue is …. Wow they sale out so dame fast 😭. Definitely sticking with the online version but glad there something for those who wanted a more affordable option.
I was excited to try a piece on as a plus size gal but I touched it and immediately decided I was okay without it😢 I wanted a blue jumpsuit and a princess sport dress thingy, but wow the jumpsuit was so thin and cheap feeling 😢
I loved this video. Could you make another one recommending eshops for clothes that followed similar ethics? I feel its so hard nowadays to find good ones...
i understand how some people do fast fashion, especially with the rising cost of living nowadays. but I think that the majority of people who say this can go to thrift stores to buy stuff at the same or even lower prices.
Yeah I pop flex clothing and I was curious about the Target line, but decided to wait on reviews before I go and glad I didn’t buy anything. Everyone is talking about how the quality isn’t as good and it’s basically fast fashion.
These were the exact questions I had about the new launch. Thank you for this video
Her stuff has always been fast fashion. She literally uses Chinese manufacturers.
chinese manufacturers doesn’t automatically make it fast fashion
2 different things
The reason why Cassey did this is bc enough people complained that her ethical brand was too damn expensive. Having an affordable option sacrifices quality.
is the name biogilates or pop flex i’m so confused
I’ve never really followed Cassie, but I’ve known about her clothing line for a while. I respect the Popflex ethos, but I think this cheap version (both in price, quality, and style) can’t do anything but hurt her credibility. Despite what anyone says about how nice her Popflex pieces are, I’ll never buy anything from the company since it now seems like she’s been lying about her values this whole time.
Well balanced review. ❤ I'm on the fence overall of trying popflex clothes. I thrift most things. Mostly of fairly high quality.
I'm not in the camp of criers to small businesses for being too pricey. That's just rubbish!
First world manufacturing of clothes makes a cotton circle skirt over $100 fairly priced. Alternately, Pact manufactures in certified Indian 🇮🇳 facilities and manages to price some incredibly great basics at easier prices with organic cotton. So there is some pricing possibility for some brands.
I have no sympathy for the false customers pseudo fanbase demanding penny prices for current unworn fashions in huge overhead burden size ranges; while being unendingly ethical.
Cassie created a diffusion line with Tar- jay for her diffusion price point audience. For potential customer conversion of whom would likely never buy her main line.
Most people in the US don't have even $30 in an emergency fund. They honestly can't afford the Bloglaties products either.
whats annoying is that optimization of process *shouldn't* come at expense of quality. someone learning how to make their business easier on them while still delivering quality is what justifies any decision a business makes. optimization shouldnt mean "suddenly you all receive worse so that you all get it." it should mean "i made my ability to make this easier, so i am passing those savings onto you as the consumer." nowhere does that mean "i'm also cutting corners as well."
my brain is broken so let's present an analogy for people like me who love them lol
a baker is baking cookies and suddenly has a lot more they wanna make. the right choice would be to invest in a standing mixer and a bigger oven. but there are people who will cheap out and instead insist that they can cut their flour with sawdust and let the food warm in the sun to "make more at once." why are so many people not understanding the basics of business? well, the world was built on scams and awards malicious mediocrity lol
small businesses *should* be the last people falling into these predatory business patterns. small businesses are morally held up by society with an inferred integrity and personability that really gets taken advantage of the second that they cut corners, but even worse when they still charge insane prices for poor products "because it's small business."
Even if you pay more used to have to research where and how the clothes were made at this point. I'm pretty much buying second hand with a few exceptions. Simply because I do want to get better quality clothes and I find always shopping for something more. Actually tiring as I have other things to do at my time. So yeah, I don't get the need if you're above the age of say 20 maybe 22 to perpetually buy cheap clothes and having to replace them every couple of weeks.
I can't afford blogolatis ever honestly coz I'm indian so currency exchange makes it 3 4 times extra hard for us but if I'm ever buying any of her design I would choose the original one if I love something I want the best version of it if I can't afford it's just I can't afford there is no point in getting a cheep version coz I know the reson I loved that product are not going to be in the cheap afford version like this case so their is no point in buying that
Mine are from SHEIN when I was in my activewear buying phase and 90% of the sets are totally fine, they’ve lasted years. Just one broke because I got it in a tight size
Great vid. Well scripted, good editing, salient content.
Thanks for watching! 🙏
I can’t be the only one who thought the target line looked awful compared to the original pop flex… I’d rather have the more expensive one, it just looks better made
Finally! I've been waiting for someone to point out how it's hypocritical for the company to have a line with target. It 100% is fast fashion & 100% goes against what they have claimed to be their core beliefs. Also it bothers me that after all these years she hasn't acknowledged how she contributed negatively to diet culture & unrealistic body standards & years later has profited off of making an image of being all inclusive. If she's genuinely changed into those beliefs that's nice, though I feel it's important to own up to contributing to harmful beliefs even if in the past
ngl I used to follow her routines once upon a time but stopped because she gave me weird vibes. Got the impression she really hated her body before her sudden weight loss despite her mantra of “self-love no matter what you look like” and also publishing a super whiney post complaining about criticisms towards her turned me away very quickly
I found it unsettling how she would preach about her good quality and her beliefs against fast fashion, they always felt performantive and not genuine, I felt ashamed that I buy fast fashion items instead of saving up and buying for example one good pair of leggings when i can barely afford anything else
let's talk about how she also doesn't ever fix problems with her line too...size M/L sports bra? im a S in a sports bra and not a single tata fit in her M/L sizes, and i have a fairly large bust compared to by band size so i had to size up and she keeps making MORE and MORE without fixing problems in other products
Sure expensive stuff can last longer but half the time it doesnt, and at the end of the day if youre poor and need new clothes youre probably not financially ok with buying a 60-80 dollar pair of jeans or a hoodie plus whatever else you need and living expenses
Did she design a single new item for this collection? Everything looked like a pre-existing product…
Whenever you change the quality of fabric, it's important to go through the fit process again so it should be treated like a new product. Additionally, I believe the rompers and some of the dresses are new
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tbh I wanted to try her clothes eve more now. I've always been hesitant bc I am between XS and S sizes
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this is an awesome video!!! i really appreciate your analysis
Thank you for watching!