That's kind of genious! I've used ceramic bearings in the past, but they are kind of expensive. The other thing I've done is replace the plastic wheel spacer with aluminum. When the plastic wears, it can eventually rub causing more friction.
Great idea , We used to do the same thing on our racing go karts . We would take brand new bearings and take all the grease out of them and we had a special lubes that we sprayed on them . We also put a removable cover on the bearings so that we could easily clean and lubes them without taking them apart . But your correct, it all adds up in quicker lap times . Thanks for the great info .
LOL I started racing a Tamiya Grasshopper many moons ago. What an improvement you have in today's RC Cars. I remember one of the first mods I did to the Grasshopper was getting rid of the nylon bearings and installing the sealed metal bearings. Then the next mod was getting rid of the stock tie rod ends that popped off just looking at them. I replaced them with the type found on this Traxxas. After watching your post I am thinking of getting back into it. I have a lot of stuff already and was wondering what everyone was running. Now I know. I'm only an hour away from Harrisburg and liked watching them race at the Farm Show complex. I still have the Grasshopper but it's set up to race on asphalt. The lipo batteries are so much better also but you already knew that.
I’m always open to learn some pointers especially from those older than me. Every tenth of a second counts! Great info pal! You older guys know all the cool tricks. Thanks so much and keep em coming!!! Happy racing
I really appreciate these tips! I was just doing some bearing testing on my channel and a viewer pointed me to your video! I'm going to have to test this on my car.
Nice. Keep em coming. My track we have to run the stock blue seal bearings so ceramic or aftermarket bearings isn’t an option. All the little .1 or .05 seconds add up. Subscribed.
This is nice! Just broke the LT rear bearing carriers (spindle) on BOTH my kids 2wd Slashes last night so I’ll be taking those apart and just saw how it’s done and to boot a great trick to free up some extra speed. One Slash is going to just be a big basher but the other one is headed for track duty eventually so this mod will be put to good use and came at a great time. Thanks for a great mod Mark!
Jeff Bryner that’s exactly the plan. Even my LHS handed me RPM when we broke the rear bulkhead at the top shock mount. I called to see if he had the Traxxas part in stock so I could go get it right away. I get there and he hands me the RPM part saying “it’s just what ya do.” Lol
Jeff Bryner what kills me is seeing the Losi Tenacity 4wd RTR Short Course Truck now only $200! Still not sure the race bread Losi would stand up to bashing and mistakes as well as Traxxas but when that is what I spent w 2wd trucks... daaaang. Does RPM also make parts for Losi?
@@JFlyer1973 yes they do. Traxxas is proud of there stuff and want u to use only there stuff. I bash a sc10 myself. Losi is just as good. I raced a losi buggy as a kid and it was a great car. I race team associated sc5m and a sc6.1 now .my kids have slashes for bashing and my associated products are way more durable imo. The good thing about traxxas is parts support. Everyone carries parts for traxxas. Especially the slash and rustler
Hey mark ty for the video,I’m really thinking of getting into this class, ty for all the tips,tell Jonny spring I said hello,have a great day,keep the rubber down 🏁
Excellent Excellent Excellent!!! How bout camber, caster, toe and the effects of each adjustment. Or maybe identifying loose or push conditions and how to adjust accordingly.
calm down.. got a long way to go yet.. i'll cover that stuff in later videos. The Mudboss setup playlist will have them all listed for quick reference for later use
I just leave those (seals)off entirely for racing... I usually just get better bearings from McMaster-Karr and toss those cheap things or just use them for practicing. ..and get metal hexes.. the plastic ones will cause drag as they wear. Speaking of practice... that is what it really takes... run a million laps if you want to really get good !
If you want every bit of speed even at the expense of reliability/ plan on replacing your bearings often you can skip oiling the bearings.. A dry bearing will spin longer then one that's been oiled just like oiled bearings spin faster then greased ones but dry ones will rust much quicker.. Just thought I'd mention it as it's something people do to baitcaster fishing reels opposed to buying aftermarket ceramic bearings but fish reels don't see the constant high rpms that an rc does.. It might help or you could loose a bearing mid race.. its up to you if it's worth it..
As cheap as these bearings are you get one that gets gritty toss it and put the new bearing in. No use trying to get them to come back because most likely they won't return to what they were before.
Hey mark thanks for the video. I want to build a track at home do you have any tips that you can share. Thank for your time and keep them videos coming 👍
Mark, two questions... Do you do anything to remove slop from the steering? Seems like the rod ends are pretty loose on a new truck. Second, do you have a preference for softening the hard Rubber. I have tried poppa willies but I can't take the odor. I'm looking for something I could do to soak them once and be done. Otherwise I'll just try some of the softer compound stock tires. Thanks for the RC coverage! Jim
You can't take up slop or play in the steering in the mudboss class.. legally. I start prepping my tires 5 weeks before racing season starts. Once a week. apply prep and stick in a zip lock bag .. usually do the same the night before a race
You can get bearings for the steering rack. I don't know the size off hand but, on the white steering rack there are 4 plastic spacers remove those and insert the bearings in their place.
FOST, Thanks, I just found that yesterday as I was making new bushings out of delrin round stock. I thought I might have some bearings but not. I was able to make my new bushing a bit tighter to remove some slop.
Hey mark, can I pick your brain for a sec, I was just wondering the size of the tracks, I have some spots for one , was just curious like how wide an long of a space was needed, how big is the archery track you run at?
Mudboss class rules usually require you to use stock parts.. Some track rules require the blue seals.. plus outfitting the truck with aftermarket bearings can cost as much as the truck. If you put the time in you don't have to spend money to win.. This is just the start of my prep work.
@@OvalRC oh i understand. Great video too. I got a set of good bearing for my sc10 pro mod for 65 bucks from my lh. Tranny and all. Sure this way works and is cheaper im just lazy and can afford to buy new to save me time. hahaha. Now if u have to run stock bearings then i can see that but in my state no one runs mudd boss's. pro mods are all ae or tlr with erc or bbe carbon chassis custom works adjustable arms open motor and tires etc..
Way to much oil put on bearings. 2 or 3 small drops of synthetic motor oil. I do maintenance overhauls twice a year. Race street stock slash outdoor summer & indoor same class at different track all dirt.
That's kind of genious! I've used ceramic bearings in the past, but they are kind of expensive. The other thing I've done is replace the plastic wheel spacer with aluminum. When the plastic wears, it can eventually rub causing more friction.
Great idea , We used to do the same thing on our racing go karts . We would take brand new bearings and take all the grease out of them and we had a special lubes that we sprayed on them . We also put a removable cover on the bearings so that we could easily clean and lubes them without taking them apart . But your correct, it all adds up in quicker lap times . Thanks for the great info .
LOL I started racing a Tamiya Grasshopper many moons ago. What an improvement you have in today's RC Cars. I remember one of the first mods I did to the Grasshopper was getting rid of the nylon bearings and installing the sealed metal bearings. Then the next mod was getting rid of the stock tie rod ends that popped off just looking at them. I replaced them with the type found on this Traxxas. After watching your post I am thinking of getting back into it. I have a lot of stuff already and was wondering what everyone was running. Now I know. I'm only an hour away from Harrisburg and liked watching them race at the Farm Show complex. I still have the Grasshopper but it's set up to race on asphalt. The lipo batteries are so much better also but you already knew that.
I’m always open to learn some pointers especially from those older than me. Every tenth of a second counts! Great info pal! You older guys know all the cool tricks. Thanks so much and keep em coming!!! Happy racing
I really appreciate these tips!
I was just doing some bearing testing on my channel and a viewer pointed me to your video!
I'm going to have to test this on my car.
Nice. Keep em coming. My track we have to run the stock blue seal bearings so ceramic or aftermarket bearings isn’t an option. All the little .1 or .05 seconds add up. Subscribed.
This helped out a ton. I even did the transmission
Awesome video's great stuff 👍🏁From New Zealand
This is nice! Just broke the LT rear bearing carriers (spindle) on BOTH my kids 2wd Slashes last night so I’ll be taking those apart and just saw how it’s done and to boot a great trick to free up some extra speed. One Slash is going to just be a big basher but the other one is headed for track duty eventually so this mod will be put to good use and came at a great time. Thanks for a great mod Mark!
Ah the notorious traxxas crappy hub carrier flaw!!! Grab some rpm ones and u will be good
Jeff Bryner that’s exactly the plan. Even my LHS handed me RPM when we broke the rear bulkhead at the top shock mount. I called to see if he had the Traxxas part in stock so I could go get it right away. I get there and he hands me the RPM part saying “it’s just what ya do.” Lol
@@JFlyer1973 lol it sure is haha. My kids have slashes and evertime they brake rpm goes on haha. The trucks are going to be full rpm before long haha
Jeff Bryner what kills me is seeing the Losi Tenacity 4wd RTR Short Course Truck now only $200! Still not sure the race bread Losi would stand up to bashing and mistakes as well as Traxxas but when that is what I spent w 2wd trucks... daaaang. Does RPM also make parts for Losi?
@@JFlyer1973 yes they do. Traxxas is proud of there stuff and want u to use only there stuff. I bash a sc10 myself. Losi is just as good. I raced a losi buggy as a kid and it was a great car. I race team associated sc5m and a sc6.1 now .my kids have slashes for bashing and my associated products are way more durable imo. The good thing about traxxas is parts support. Everyone carries parts for traxxas. Especially the slash and rustler
Hey mark ty for the video,I’m really thinking of getting into this class, ty for all the tips,tell Jonny spring I said hello,have a great day,keep the rubber down 🏁
Thanks for the positive vibes!!
Excellent Excellent Excellent!!!
How bout camber, caster, toe and the effects of each adjustment. Or maybe identifying loose or push conditions and how to adjust accordingly.
calm down.. got a long way to go yet.. i'll cover that stuff in later videos. The Mudboss setup playlist will have them all listed for quick reference for later use
@@OvalRC u R the man !!
yeah.. hang in there.. this topic is really hard to video. You know it's like putting your head on the chopping block if your wrong in anyway.. lol
I just leave those (seals)off entirely for racing... I usually just get better bearings from McMaster-Karr and toss those cheap things or just use them for practicing. ..and get metal hexes.. the plastic ones will cause drag as they wear. Speaking of practice... that is what it really takes... run a million laps if you want to really get good !
If you want every bit of speed even at the expense of reliability/ plan on replacing your bearings often you can skip oiling the bearings..
A dry bearing will spin longer then one that's been oiled just like oiled bearings spin faster then greased ones but dry ones will rust much quicker..
Just thought I'd mention it as it's something people do to baitcaster fishing reels opposed to buying aftermarket ceramic bearings but fish reels don't see the constant high rpms that an rc does..
It might help or you could loose a bearing mid race.. its up to you if it's worth it..
That's great info that I never thought about,
Thanks for the video
As cheap as these bearings are you get one that gets gritty toss it and put the new bearing in. No use trying to get them to come back because most likely they won't return to what they were before.
Fun content. Looking forward to more in the series. Subscibed.
Thank you for all your videos, I love them.. Can you give advise as far as shock oil weights and which sides. Thanks.
Hey Mark. What advice do you have if it doesn't make a difference.
Great video, thanks for the info 👍👍👊
Great video! What replacement bearings do you buy when it's time to swap out?
Thanks for your video good one
Thanks for that cool tip
Thanks for all these helpful tips. I’m currently getting into the racing. What type of grease are you using
great video thanks
Great video, thanks..
Thank You!! more to come
I wish there were tracks in my part of NY...
Where in NY are you ?
Joel LaJuett in between Buffalo and Rochester
Ugg.. closest I know if for u is Walts in Syracuse. Maybe something closer but idk
I wish to.thats a long haul to syracuse...
I’ll just have to build one myself in the woods... build it and they will come!
Pacamor Bearings are made in America, but you'll pay $$... so much better than Chinese junkers though.
Hey mark thanks for the video. I want to build a track at home do you have any tips that you can share. Thank for your time and keep them videos coming 👍
i didn't build any tracks... yet?
Been in the hobby 20+ years and that was the old “cheater” trick in the stock 27t classes... would drop nearly .5 off a lap time in legends open class
the full size modified guys spend big bucks on low drag seals and low drag bearings.. i do this on everything i raced .. just in a different way.
Can you put better bearings in on the mud boss class?
What seal lubricant would you recommend?
Another great video Mark! Do you have a link where we can buy the utility oil mentioned in the video?
any light oil will work.. don't use thick oil.
Hi,good info videos,I'm building my first mudboss,are we allowed to use aluminium shock caps,I see some rules say yes and some just dont say
depends on your local track rules
Mark, two questions... Do you do anything to remove slop from the steering? Seems like the rod ends are pretty loose on a new truck. Second, do you have a preference for softening the hard
Rubber. I have tried poppa willies but I can't take the odor. I'm looking for something I could do to soak them once and be done. Otherwise I'll just try some of the softer compound stock tires. Thanks for the RC coverage! Jim
You can't take up slop or play in the steering in the mudboss class.. legally. I start prepping my tires 5 weeks before racing season starts. Once a week. apply prep and stick in a zip lock bag .. usually do the same the night before a race
Do you mind saying what you treat them with? If that is coming in a future video that is okay too. Thanks!
You can get bearings for the steering rack. I don't know the size off hand but, on the white steering rack there are 4 plastic spacers remove those and insert the bearings in their place.
FOST, Thanks, I just found that yesterday as I was making new bushings out of delrin round stock. I thought I might have some bearings but not. I was able to make my new bushing a bit tighter to remove some slop.
What size shock limiters do you use?
hey man do you make oval rc stickers you can sell ?
So u just cut the inside part of the blue seal off and not the outside?
Yes the outside seal does not cause any friction.
@@jimd.8028 ok awesome thanks for the Info👍👍
Hey mark, can I pick your brain for a sec, I was just wondering the size of the tracks, I have some spots for one , was just curious like how wide an long of a space was needed, how big is the archery track you run at?
i honestly don't know. They are all different
Ty sir, greatly appreciate it, hope you have a great weekend stay safe🤙🏻
Soo it sounds like it would be easier to buy a aftermarket bearing kit and be done. Thats alot of bearings to do that too lol. My time is money haha
Mudboss class rules usually require you to use stock parts.. Some track rules require the blue seals.. plus outfitting the truck with aftermarket bearings can cost as much as the truck. If you put the time in you don't have to spend money to win.. This is just the start of my prep work.
@@OvalRC oh i understand. Great video too. I got a set of good bearing for my sc10 pro mod for 65 bucks from my lh. Tranny and all. Sure this way works and is cheaper im just lazy and can afford to buy new to save me time. hahaha. Now if u have to run stock bearings then i can see that but in my state no one runs mudd boss's. pro mods are all ae or tlr with erc or bbe carbon chassis custom works adjustable arms open motor and tires etc..
Use shoe goo vern.
who in the hell calls wheel hexes wheel spacers been around a long time never heard that term
Way to much oil put on bearings. 2 or 3 small drops of synthetic motor oil. I do maintenance overhauls twice a year. Race street stock slash outdoor summer & indoor same class at different track all dirt.
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who listens to someone about racing that NEVER WINS A RACE!!!! there is a reason there is not one video of him winning a race~!!!
dude... fast forward. otherwise, great vid
Bearings size?