Why Spirituality is making you depressed
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- Why spirituality is making you depressed
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Life is an illusion, I am God, and unicorns are real!! 🦄
life is real, god is an illusion, i AM A UNICORN
Makes sense
@@albertmerlew unicorns are an illusion, God is life, I am real!
Really insightful. Thoroughly enjoyed this one Tom.
I am an illusion, God is a unicorn, real is life😁
My philosophy: Avoid going extreme in any directions. Why would you miss seeing other colors of life just because you liked one more at sometime.
The only direction that counts is "inward".
Don’t become so heavenly bound that you’re no earthly good
I think why it’s depressing is because most people around you don’t have any type of spirituality in their life.
this!!
This is really all it is
Consider that comment. Your peace of mind depends on what other people believe. Consider shadow work.
@@SpontaneousEvolution sure, but people are social beings that most of the time need community to thrive
@@Ruebzzz I never said avoid community. You might want to read my comment again.
This is why shadow work is so important. There can be no light without the dark. spiritual egoism runs rampant in "love and light only" circles.
It's fascinating how a lot of the ancient sentiments from Gnosticism are being echoed almost word for word in a lot of New Age movements.
I personally like the attitude that living a spiritual life isn't hard but we over-complicate it for ourselves because it feels good to be "special". It's not about meditating for decades or putting on a great show with your crystal-assisted yoga or performing mass in gigantic golden cathedrals.
That's all well and good, but the real bones of spiritual life have always been the same: feed the hungry, clothe the naked, comfort the dying, care for the sick, visit the imprisoned, etc. If that isn't at the center of your practice, then you're kinda just shuffling around in the dark.
Exactly. Just be a good human.
And meditate too bro. Don’t be afraid to use an app. Meditation should be normalized to the same extent as brushing your teeth, in my opinion.
This is so good I screenshotted it. Thank you for sharing :)
A lot of people simply just overdosing on spirituality
Spirituality has turned into consumerism
I agree! I was one of them!
Been watching your content for 3 or 4 years now, and just wanted to say that your progression is really inspiring.
& honestly, out of all the "spiritual" people that I look to for bits of guidance, you are easily THE most down-to-earth, humble, and relatable (at least from my subjective perspective, at the moment.)
And for that I respect and look up to you.
Thanks for all the hard work you do, Tom! It doesn't go unnoticed 🙏🏼💙🙏🏼
Right now, I feel stuck in my mental (and spiritual) depression, and I found your video after a really, really bad day. I just.. idk man.. I felt guided by this. So, thank you for sharing. Thank you for your truth.
I have got dpdr and pretty sure it was triggered by psychedelics/spirituality mentality and what you are telling is so relatable, your video on the dark night of the soul too REALLY helped me put things into perspective and it helped with my mental health. I want to thank you you made it way easier to see the light now... love you man
I really appreciate your honesty and approach to stuff like this. I think I went (am still going) through a similiar experience after messing with psychedelics. I only did lsd once and the actual trip wasn't that bad, but a week later I ate an edible and kind of lost it. I had a boyfriend at the time who was a little toxic and I thought he was posessed or something and he started to purposely act creepy, because he found it funny to scare me. And I got so sensitive and aware of all the evil in this world and how its turning people into monsters, that I would start crying when i witnessed people fighting or being mean to each other, because I felt how broken they were and how they continued to break themselves and I could do nothing about it. I was 17 when this started which is definitely too young for stuff like that, but the thing that kept me going was acknowledging all the pain and suffering, but still loving people and having empathy for them and trying my best not to create more suffering as I go. To me that's enough... I don't need to be enlightend or anything, I want to remain a human being for the time I am here. You're videos are very helpful in that sense :)
Even after finding the big secrets in life, you have to move on and look for new things. Because the force is like a river that loops but never ends
I don't have money to donate but because I really like what you do and it has helped me a lot I'm gonna sit through every single ad on this channel :)
Deep thanks for sharing this, was so deep I had pause a few times to process it.
Woah Tom i didn't know you had this channel over here! So glad I can come in here to sit and listen to a real talk about spirituality with the guy whose videos set me on this path to begin with. I listen to a lot of spiritual teachers myself and sometimes I can't help but wonder if I'm not excercising a healthy skepticism with it all.
I'm currently going through my second bout with the Dark Night and while its not as rough as the first one, it's still no fun at all.
I guess my big two cents on what you're saying in the video concerning embracing our reality, is thats the whole reason why we are here. If we totally ignore what it is thats inside thats causing us pain, then we are ignoring what it is we came here to do in the first place. Thats why we have to face the hardship head on to have those life experiences that lead to spiritual growth.
This is where I'm at in my spiritual journey, to go out of my comfort zone so that I can learn not to stress over what people think about me.
jus wanted to comment and say i appreciate both of your channels and thank you for all the work you do. One of my favorite youtube channels 🙏🏾
I honor that you are brutally honest with yourself .
Bro, thanks for this! Wish there were more such realistic people out there. This is real spirituality for me. When You can have all these "beyond" experiences but You still remain simple, honest person, who understands that it doesn't make You in any way more that any other person. Further more, the more You move along this path the more You understand that a lot of people around You "get" it naturally, without having to do all this weird spirituall staff.
Exactly ;)
Totally agree man, ultimately the physical and the spiritual are one as well!
Needed this video without this video i dont know if could think straight again
Spiritual depression is no joke i didnt want to life for a second
Thanks for this video happy i found it🙏🏽
This is so accurate. Especially the spiritual ego thing. I've been through so much similar things.
Thank you for what you do.
This found me for a reason. The thoughts you have are the same I have.
This video makes a lot of sense man Thank you brother
Appreciate you sharing about those darker/suicidal thoughts man. Have struggled with that too and still comes up at times.
Bet that's been hard man, sending love, may God bless you ❤
@@Vivec thanks man! Really appreciate that❤️
Hahaha the koi fresco impersonation 15:00
Cognizance is something I try to practice everyday. I just came across your channel today and I watched Divine Duality. It definitely adds a new aspect of the path I need to pay keen attention to. Undoubtedly the ego can be a cheeky little bastard.
“ …full of kaka!” 😂 Oh man, that made my day! Hey, found your channel today while searching for Joseph Campbell’s “ Hero’s Journey” and loved your video on it! I can definitely relate to the description of your own spiritual (seeking) journey/path. Thanks for the “reality knocks” on the door of the unknowable. Love ya brother! 💕
Take everything in moderation. Listen, listen, listen. Worry about your own soul. Don’t try to save the world. Walk a middle path. Remember there’s no end to learning. Enjoy the journey. All of us are here for a short time, so enjoy each day of your life. Don’t get hung up on all the hoopla and drama. Be careful who you interact with at all times. Peace be with you.
Just found your channel. You seem like a good person and I think your on the good path. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for sharing this. Very realistic view.
What I try to remind myself is that we are all in this together, whether we are aware of what is happening or in some process of self-awareness. We are all souls who were infinitely brave enough to journey here together. Eventually you will become aware that you are never alone because you cannot be alone spiritually. All is connected. Again, we are all going through this together. Sending a big hug!!!
Right on with that point on ego backlash and the analogy of the child throwing a fit. I find your almost Jungian individuation approach to the subject more grounded than the "annihilate the ego permenantly and take paradise by storm" deal.
This is really fascinating, you have such a wonderful and balanced way of conveying things. Your life journey looks like it's been fascinating and your honesty is so endearing. I'm on the far end of the spectrum as a nihilist atheist but I've always found comfort in a more minimal spirituality. Like I find the physical imperative to enjoy existence while you can because there's nothing afterwards kinda therapeutic. I guess that's fairly cowardly though because I suppose if spirituality is opening doors to make your existence grander in the hope of finding greater satisfaction (at the cost of greater stakes and mental work) then I could be massively missing out just for the easy road. I think it might be nice and fun to be able to believe in a god but I keep dismissing it as just a coping mechanism for mortality. I feel weirdly at peace these days but keep having to check myself as so many outside forces are telling me I shouldn't be, perhaps I've gone down the opposite path to you, the road of apathy.
5am, Tom is a great way to start the morning.
thank you Tom, I needed this heavily.
Tom thanks the last couple of week I’ve been in a dark place and the solace you were saying the one where the can end it all if it really got bad has been weighing on me heavy. But that part of giving in and then getting dealt a worse hand really hit me hard put things into perspective for me. Even though I’m still not 100 percent good I do feel a little better like I can see, maybe feel some hope out there.
Damn bro, you were on the ball in this one. Can deeply relate to your experiences and perspectives 🙏
it's easy to get attached to ones dream, but not always in the best interests of anyone to.
“What strange beings we are ! That sitting in hell at the bottom of the dark , we’re afraid of our own immortality “
Rumi
I needed to hear this🦋🧚🏻♀️ Thank you 🙏🏻
Great video man. So so true. I think the biggest trap is only listening to other people and not paying attention to your own direct experience, what your feeling and what certain teachings are doing to you. Much love brother
I really enjoyed this. I always appreciate how truly raw you are.
Tanks Tom for this video.I am also going true a simillar phase and to listen to you talk about it feels good and your honesty is refreshing. Keep following your path we are all were we are suppose to be in life even if it doesn't always feel that way.
“my ego is so dissolved, i am totes egoless” 😆
I’ll tell you Tom it has brought me some serious anxiety. The nature of reality can be frightening. Particularly that if god is everything he is the dark forces as well as the light. The thought that yea there probably is an afterlife and what that might hold brings me fear as well. Great channel Tom... Thank you
Some religions are self-contradictory by claiming the all is omnibenevolent. There’s a dark aspect of reality, even when excluding the sins of humanity.
You literally experienced my experience in detail... Thank you for this reset of perspective, very valuable. Keep up the good work! ❤
Lots of great insights shared in this Tom, keep up the great work
Nice Talk! Ive been through a similar journey and i can relate to a lot you are talking about. Never get stuck in Dogma, this is where growth stops. We dont need a spiritual or any other ideology to live ethically. And what is ethical is an ever changing process that needs continuous reflection and adaptation.
I really love the things you talk about. I’ve been watching here n there for awhile now. It’s pretty tough for me to open up spiritually, I think I am scared to go down that path. My ex boyfriend became schizophrenic when we’re we’re together 7 years we stayed together another 3 years. I have so much trouble revisiting these topics that we used to talk about together. Having to separate myself from him and watching him lose his mind has been completely devastating. It’s been 2 years since Ive seen or spoken to him. I had to protect myself. I have never met anyone since who I can talk about this stuff with and have a deep conversation like we used to, it makes it so hard to really connect with people. I miss him so much and I don’t know what happened to his soul. Or what was real or what wasn’t. If some of this stuff you talk about is true, like it think it is...I don’t know what really happened to him. I don’t know how to be ok knowing his mind or soul is stuck in this demonic evil place. I hope your videos might help me ground myself on this journey.
Thanks for sharing your journey and your thoughts on spiritual pitfalls. Bless
Thank you for opening your heart, putting aside your fears of judgement and telling us how you really feel. It's good to know you care, and the fact you can say that even though your afraid of saying it shows true courage and proves to me at least that you actually mean it. Thank you also for not being afraid to talk about the darker sides of these practices, as most "shamans" are definitely not what they claim to be.
Thank you for sharing this! I have went through this whole video inside myself in the last week! Your words have definitely helped! Thank your soul!
Hey Tom, I have personally been going through a similar experience and I felt that this video was not only very honest, but also very brave and accurate to the experience. It’s comforting to know that this type of “depression” has been experienced by someone else, it makes the journey easier to endure. I send you lots of love brother, these videos are excellent and I hope you remain making content regarding your journey ♥️.
Wow man. You hit the nail on the head with this one. You described my experience of awakening so well, it started off from doing 1-3.5 g of shrooms and I went through the normal like questioning everything and obsessing about spiritually and god and stuff. Even before shrooms I was able to think like that but after shrooms I went deep. Also before I did shrooms I struggled from extreme derealization, derealization so bad that I wanted to kill myself, so flash forward to after my awakening I did 5g of lemon tek shrooms in silent darkness. I had the most traumatic profound experience I have ever experienced, talked to an entity, and entered a fractal dimension and saw myself be born, etc. the most traumatic part of that trip was the end. I was completely convinced that I had killed myself. I didn’t know how to think. It’s very hard to explain but I couldn’t form a though in my brain. So horrible to experience. I knew 100% in that moment that if I stayed in that state I would have been put in a mental asylum for the rest of my life. The whole year of 2020 was shadow work and recovering/ integrating all the lessons I learned. There were many times after that 5g trip where I wished I had never woken up, where I wished I could just go back to normal. Around August-September of this year I struggled so hard with derealization again, this time it was the worst. I had these horrible existential thoughts of the universe where I felt like I could see through the whole entire universe. But now I have done so much shadow work where I feel like I’m going in the right direction. Awakening as a human is not fun and Not easy. But you will grow stronger. We have a purpose to be hear. As above so below. Everything is a reflection of our inner pysche
Wow yes I feel this! thank you so much for sharing with us ❤
Great video man! absolutely agree.. it's all about balance ⚖️
I feel like once I was able to establish a rule with myself my ego felt balanced. I allow my mystical nature to live in the higher realm only to come back down and feel it, embody it and work through it in the body. Only then am I able to reflect and appreciate all the parts of what it means to connect and be a human being. Its a balance - like everything I suppose. It wasn’t till I truly connected with other spiritual like minded people who want to grow together and humbly accept different perspectives of how we view spirituality that I was able to feel the value of love.
Great video! Thanks for being real!
Finally I found someone I can relate with 😂🤣 been through these phases. Started with psychology, philosophy and Spirituality then got into meditation then lucid dreaming then psychedelics this circle kept going on. I’ve stopped questioning now. What I learned is that it’s all fucking grand joke 😂. Just keep observing the self, have gratitude for existence. The existence is a reason enough to choose happiness. You can’t win over evil no matter what, what you can do is not entertain the evil in your head. And importantly keep observing yourself If you are deceiving yourself. Don’t overanalyse the talk in The head. These are the things I learned and practice so far. 😅
One of your best videos so far tom!
hey mate luvin your stuff,
great job man.
Healthy balance between spirituality and materialism is also what I thinks works best. You don't need to stop watching tv or playing videos games to be spiritual, life is an experience, do whatever you want to do as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else and preferably benefits your life in some way. For eg. watching a movie from time to time can be beneficial for you if it has a underlying message that has a positive effect on you, but it can also be destructive if you watch tv all day, and/or watch crap. Balance.
By the way, I really enjoyed your video Tom. Genuine talk, not artificial like the ones you talk about at 14:00. Thanks.
Love your video's Tom!
loved this vid, the raw honesty is refreshing
Huge thanks for this video! Depression is terrible but we can beat it!
Great video Tom, the message was well timed for me personally. Was a very humbling watch.
Well broken down🎯
Yep, that was real and raw. Rare these days.
Thank you mate
thanks dude enjoyed this!
I really enjoyed this, feel like I was really connecting with what you are saying.
Sorrow comes from the delusion of Doership, I meditate, I put effort in, I pray etc, just erase the "I" and all is Tickety-boo :)
Idk why but this video has caused me to kinda lighten up about myself. I feel... Relief?
thank you
I think spirituality is the process of being your true authentic soul self
I needed this
I think that life, the spiritual life and the physical life, the integration of the two, can be very much like the gauntlet in the early scene of the movie "First Knight" in which Richard Gere makes it through. That metaphor, when you ponder it, has many levels and lessons.
I often think of it as living in the spaces between.
The one thing that we notice right away is that you cannot survive that trip through the gauntlet by being unaware of the dangers, the dark places, the shadows. But sometimes you must go forward, other times pause, let the evil pass. Other times you must move quickly, but although you are most often focused on the immediate danger, you still move forward to the other side, to the end goal.
Where the movie fails reality is that when you pass through in life there is not always a princess there to kiss you, sometimes there is a space and then another gauntlet.
Loved this
The human experience is filtering out experience from time. Focus on what feels good to you, spread love to others and you're golden.
Oh yeah, keep the eyes on the road and not on the obstacles on the side of it. The body/mind goes where the eyes are looking.
Keep it simple and don't analyze too deep, in the end the light and darkness is infinite regardless on where the focus goes. 🙏
Good one
I was really surprised when you said, to think "there's no truth", is extreme, because I'm exactly on this trip. In the end of my last LSD experience, in me appeared the idea, that whatever going on in my (everybodys) mind, it is imagination. Only a 'picture' in the Head, and not, what really is. It may be approximately similar to what is, but it is not what's really out there. And the next thought was "this whole thing what I thought in the moment before, is also only imagination, only in my head". And so on... It was a real mindfuck. I have drawn two conclusions from this:
1. I know nothing
2. theres no truth in the mind, the only truth is, what is perceived in the present moment
(doesnt means, mind is bad. It can be a great tool I think.)
Since then, I have Problems to accept something as truth.
So I ask you, Tom, what do you define as truth?
(This is not ment to tell you, you are wrong. I am really Interested.)
i like your kame house poster/painting
Me too :P
Do you have a website? A forum or anything for people to talk? You sound like me. lol
Hello Tom, it is very nice to see someone talking serious about that, in my experience i found that when we try psycodelic we access the Life inteligence, we can see it is Real and its is inside us, but that is not our level of conscience, this glimpse is borrowed from that psycodelic, who was blessed for and enlightened mind from an enlightened people or culture. Thanks for your share. GREATING FROM BRAZIL 🤜🤛🙌🙏
Ballencing energy, life can be really shit, I legitimately got stuck when I was born turned blue, my dad left when I was 5 and now live with my nan who has dimentia. But there's always a but, its fucking beautiful. This is my ego by the way, who's going to read this anyway mate.
Everyone experiences this world differently, in ways we can never truly know. Got to trust yourself and try to enjoy the ride...
Tom's 3 commandments:
- drink water
- go into nature
- tell the truth, or at least, don't lie
Your video meant a lot. With covid I’ve been feeling more spiritually depressed than ever and I have felt so alone. With the media how it is it’s impossible to know what to believe. I’ve been working on recording a podcast and would love if you could hit me up for a possible collaboration. I’m going to release the first episode January 2021 it’ll be on how cancel culture evolved comedy. I’m trying to look more at the positives of this present moment because it is so hard
I laughed so hard at 14:09 till I got so angry because that crap is so annoyingly true!
thanks
Could you imagine life if we didn't have emotions? What would be the point of it?
The Quantum Holy Ghost gives Stygmatic Pneumatological proof of my immaculate conception.
CHECK & BALANCE
The goal is not to dissolve the ego, its to be at peace with what is, this means enjoying the expression of the spirit...which called the ego . It is to realize that suffering is also an illusion. But i am just a youtube commenter what do I know xD, all love mate, just bustin your balls
I have grown to despise spiritual messages now, I had my acid trip that 'woke me up' a couple years back and read into all this spiritual shit but I have never felt so confused and alone and mad all at once before. The spiritual teachings I can regurgitate, I know the vocab, but I just can't seem to embody them at all on the day to day level, nothing really vitalizes me in my life, it has been a tough year and all that curiosity I had shortly after my first few trips has vanished and I just feel miserable now lol. I wish it wasn't this way.
It’s your thought patterns, the electrical impulses in your brain, the repetition of an idea or behavior which you tell stories to yourself about that is the illusion, not your physical body. It’s who you think you are and who others think you are being compared to your true self and experienced as consciousness. You only perceive the differences between what is and what isn’t.
14:10 You should talk that way in all of your videos.
In my opinion it’s more of Inner demons.
Ego being one the biggest ones.
A lot what I heard in the video resonated with me. Except I wasn't ever seriously considering suicide, though some of the lows were so low, it's hard to describe (at one point I started taking prescribed meds for that). As for the balance, to me the balance is defined by how well am I able to justify my actions before my conscience using the Bible. When Im unable to do it, I loose the connection with God and the peace and comfort of union with God goes away. Pity Im strict in my judgement of others as it comes back to me, God and conscience being strict to me. Ego is normal I believe, pride isnt. By "pride" I mean taking all the credit when some is due to God. Ego is normal I think, because if we dont respect ourselves, we wont respect others, because Bible says treat others as your self, yet it says treat others with respect.
I like the way you see spirituality, and this world as a fundamental part of the consciousness
But I think is a good idea to add the concept of perpetual present, not only the world is going to end in the future. It is ending now, it already ended, and it is being created, right now
Hey bro did you know St Andrews University in Melbourne is doing psilocybin therapy research..? They are looking for volunteers..😉
1:55 WROOONG 😑