What’s so brilliant about this scene is that Sipowicz knew exactly what Fancy was trying to do by inviting him out to dinner - and not just any old place but at a place that serves ribs and is apparently a black-owned establishment with predominantly black customers. But even though Sipowicz knew what the play was, Fancy was still able to get the upper hand in the most intelligent and non-confrontational manner simply by drawing a very clear parallel between Sipowicz’s bigoted and prejudiced feelings and the assumed animosities of the people who work in and regularly patronize the services of that restaurant - and then flipping the script on him right at the end there! This was a _brilliantly_ written scene that offers a great example of how to explore a thorny issue in a way that’s intelligent and doesn’t feel preachy! Kudos to the writers here!
@Isabel Beckerman If you get a chance to watch more of the series, Sipowicz comes around. Took years, but when Fancy got promoted out of the precinct, they had developed mutual respect. Hopefully there's a youtube clip of their parting dialog - I just saw it this week on a re-run episode. It was cool
Fancy chose a tasty way to make an important point. Kudos to the writers! This scene was referenced later when Sipowicz and Fancy stand outside the precinct in Season 8, Ep. 12. It was a long and winding road these two traveled to reach mutual respect and covert admiration.
If my boss took me out for some great ribs and slaw to teach me a lesson I might keep faking I never got the lesson just for the food. This scene makes me hungry.
This was a great scene. It was foreshadowed earlier in the episode when Andy sarcastically said to LT Fancy that he is basically down with the brothers and that maybe they should go out for ribs one day.
This show consistently delivered the most riveting thought provoking intense & heartfelt dialogue. Bochco was a bona fide genius. Hill Street & NYPD Blue, LA Law, just classic after classic. Perfect casting perfect characters perfect arcs. Even when major names left for whatever reason new even more interesting characters came. Fancy & Andy is the greatest adversarial friendship in TV history. Great actors.
Here is a fine example of Lt. Fancy being a teacher/mentor. As Andy became sober, he sees much potential in him. So in this I see Fancy taking Andy under his wing.
One of the best scenes of the entire series done in such a impactful way. Only way to bridge the gaps is to experience the reality from both perspectives best as possible.
NYPD Blue - was and is the very BEST police show that was ever on TV. This one scene resonates with tension and understanding. The scene where Fancy and Sipowicz exchange slugs in the bathroom was probably even better.
So this is a fun scene to watch, except for my personal experience - which was the exact opposite of Andy's. Best ribs I ever had was in Baltimore at a place on Liberty Rd. My wife and I were the only white people in there (we didn't plan it that way.) I did not feel any hostility directed toward my wife or myself, and we were not ignored. We were made to feel welcome by the staff and many of the patrons. I hope in the next life it's always like this, hoping that would be normal.
Sometimes things are all in your head. No different than being in a restaurant in Mississippi and having the best catfish platter I ever tasted, despite being the only Black person in the room. People have a business to run. The color of money rules the day.
I'm not an expert on race relations, but I thought it was extremely smart of fancy to get his point across in this manner. No screaming, no fighting. Just two men sitting down, having some good food, and then the point gets made from an honest perspective. I guess that's the word I would use to describe this scene: honest. It's clear that he's speaking from the heart and he wants to say a lot more, but he's smart enough to know that that won't work with Sipowicz. He wants to actually make his point stick.
It was so weird that they resented eachother throughout the years, but they were two different cops who had different views on their work. At the end they always had respect for another. Even after they had the fistfight, they still made up after that.
They resented each other maybe for awhile, but they came to terms and at the end they respected the hell out of each other. After the episode where Andy lost his gun after his son died and Fancy could have had his badge Andy really came to understand how much Fancy respected and appreciated him. It's too bad James McDaniel didn't stay on the show, I really enjoyed his acting and his dynamic with Andy.
@@leeeastwood6368 I knew, my spidey senses tingled when read your comment. I knew, TYT subscriber, scroll through your subscriptions and boom there it was. There are conservatives, there are liberals, there are progressives, there is the middle, then there are TYT people that claim to be progressives, but support democrats who are really republicans. You guys are a special breed of fucked up.
The dynaamic between Sipowhicz and Fancey was one of the best parts of this show. The chemistry of both actors was outstanding. They kept the tension going through all the years even as they improved the relationship. The writing and acting was awesome I was disapointed when James McDaniel left the show
Such a great scene. And without feeling contrived. Just Fancy finding a way to illustrate a point. In the later seasons, I thought the show lost some of what made the earlier seasons special.
C Lee i don’t think that the cast had any issues. Like any real life work setting, the old dogs get older. People move on for the right reasons and sometimes the wrong reasons. And in some environments, the old dogs need to take what they’ve learned and pass it on to the next generation. In the case of NYPD Blue, Andy became the dad of the precinct. He calmed down in his later years, became more of a teacher, and always stood up for the kids even if there was a chance it could come back on him. Not only that, Rita calmed down along the way. Jones learned to lighten up a bit and not be such a Boy Scout, but he also kept his integrity. And in the last few episodes, you can see that Clark was becoming a young Sipowicz. A little more frustrated and hardened by his time on the job. A little hardened from what life had given him with his dad and girlfriend. And Andy stuck around long enough to sit on the other side of the desk. There has yet to be a show on television that shows the circle of life that any job can hold. NYPD Blue nailed it.
Been to several joints on the west side of Chicago like this and was noticed and I noticed but served well and all was good. White guy here. Soul food was really good. Tipped nicely and no complaints.
When the lieutenant said " My treat", Sipowitz should've said " No Lieutenant, you just put down enough free schooling and wisdom that I think it's only right that I cover the meal".
man, i rly get in the mood to rewatch the series 😀 unfortunately aprox ten years ago there were only the first two seasons available on german / PAL dvd
That's some profound sit delivered as softly as a father reading a bedtime story to his child so that the child understands what is happening. The level of writing, the immaculate performance, aah
Years ago, Bens Chili Bowl was recommended to me by a friend while in DC. I stopped there and had the best chili dog and cheese fries I ever ate. The guys at the counter helped me order exactly what I wanted. I was the white speck in that place and I even got a pic with Ms. Virginia. She was the nicest person you ever met. I actually seek out places like this because if the locals eat there, it is the good stuff. It is sometimes uncomfortable being the guy that looks much different, but I don't care that much. People are good wherever you go.
Outside of Dennis Franz, I really liked James McDaniel. Great acting, great boss and a good decent guy. I sorry to see him go. I remember a scene when Fancy was asked about
The relationship and dynamic between these two was fantastic to behold and something that today's woke culture would never allow. The writing was so brilliant that we see inside of two complicated men with flaws, bigotries and warts. The only judgements made were for the viewer to absorb and decide. And at the end of the day, there was love, mutual respect and admiration between the two. Always unspoken, but always there.
Ridiculous comment about woke culture(there is no such thing) which tells us a great deal about your prejudices and ignorance. Spare us the comment about having Black friends. This scene works because Sipowicz was an unreconstucted racist and just like you would go to ridiculous lengths to justify his racism and expect black people to buy into his warped reasoning
@@christopherbenjamin3242: I'd like to thank you for possibly the stupidest and most self-serving comment I've read this week. It's always a fascinating read when people whom have never met me automatically assume a view as fact. As tempting as it is to want to get deeper into the thought process of someone as ignorant as obviously as bigoted as yourself, I'm going to resist because you really are that dense. But I wish you the best. You appear to be your own biggest fan anyway.
@@stevedrums1675 No one needs to meet you to realise that like still waters your bigotry runs deep. A casual use of "woke culture" in relation to a film that basically shines a light on people like you, defines you as keyboard warrior extraordinaire who can barely connect with the real world. Save your faux outrage for that position on the 19th hole as the resident golf bore or better still read some books, widen your social circle and try a bit harder to become a better and more rounded human being
@@christopherbenjamin3242: Chris: If I were as stupid as you appear to me, the last thing I'd be doing is broadcasting it on social media for the world to view. In fact, I'd be kind of ashamed of it. Live in your world, believe what you want to believe and I hope you've considered a second career as your psychic career hasn't quite hit the mark. Be well and smarten up.
@@stevedrums1675 It's never too taxing to have to deal with low intellects such as you but immensely satisfying that with every syllable you prove me right. "Woke Culture"....you've spent too much time on your own, developing an inflated sense of your own importance whilst messaging from the basement of your Mums house. Something very Norman Bates about you but carry on and fill your boots, that's the life you've created. A modest man with much to be modest about.
Don't forget where it worked the other way with Fancy with not just white cops who had a problem with those of other races. His brother was on the job and got jammed up and met Fancy as he arrived for work telling him the cabbie recanted his statement. His brother apparently thought Arthur took care of it but was informed some people on his squad made things right then told him that "4 or 5 people reached out for him last night, not a brother in the bunch!" Sad to have seen him leave the series.
That says it well and sums up this time period. We were not divided the same way as we are now. There was still intelligence and nuance in our social interactions - and our art. This show - and this scene - exemplifies that. How far we've fallen.
What’s so brilliant about this scene is that Sipowicz knew exactly what Fancy was trying to do by inviting him out to dinner - and not just any old place but at a place that serves ribs and is apparently a black-owned establishment with predominantly black customers. But even though Sipowicz knew what the play was, Fancy was still able to get the upper hand in the most intelligent and non-confrontational manner simply by drawing a very clear parallel between Sipowicz’s bigoted and prejudiced feelings and the assumed animosities of the people who work in and regularly patronize the services of that restaurant - and then flipping the script on him right at the end there! This was a _brilliantly_ written scene that offers a great example of how to explore a thorny issue in a way that’s intelligent and doesn’t feel preachy! Kudos to the writers here!
Totally agree far cry from the forced woke bullsheet we are forced to out up with now, which seems to be doing nothing but divide everyone.
David Milch was (is?) a genius.
Two great characters,one of many great scene's together
Andy carries that life lesson with him to the day he retired.
Let Fancy was a really fine gentleman. I’d love to have him for a boss.
@Isabel Beckerman If you get a chance to watch more of the series, Sipowicz comes around. Took years, but when Fancy got promoted out of the precinct, they had developed mutual respect. Hopefully there's a youtube clip of their parting dialog - I just saw it this week on a re-run episode. It was cool
“What if they had guns and badges?”
I’ll never forget that line.
That line makes me think every time I hear it.
That line nails it. I remember as a young man this scene and that line helped me start to "get it".
The answer to that question should be, "Then I guess I'd behave correctly."
That's the answer in real life too.
@@bearkowlbama6352 And the winner of the “missed the point” contest is……
@@JBart3112 No missed point. Flat out rejection of the concept of it.
Fancy chose a tasty way to make an important point. Kudos to the writers! This scene was referenced later when Sipowicz and Fancy stand outside the precinct in Season 8, Ep. 12. It was a long and winding road these two traveled to reach mutual respect and covert admiration.
If my boss took me out for some great ribs and slaw to teach me a lesson I might keep faking I never got the lesson just for the food. This scene makes me hungry.
I like everything about it except the white ass line, little harsh but I know Fancy is no racist
This was a great scene. It was foreshadowed earlier in the episode when Andy sarcastically said to LT Fancy that he is basically down with the brothers and that maybe they should go out for ribs one day.
This show consistently delivered the most riveting thought provoking intense & heartfelt dialogue. Bochco was a bona fide genius. Hill Street & NYPD Blue, LA Law, just classic after classic. Perfect casting perfect characters perfect arcs. Even when major names left for whatever reason new even more interesting characters came. Fancy & Andy is the greatest adversarial friendship in TV history. Great actors.
Great post, I agree with every word. Spot on about the mighty Bochco.
And don't forget Milch's genius writing.
Here is a fine example of Lt. Fancy being a teacher/mentor. As Andy became sober, he sees much potential in him. So in this I see Fancy taking Andy under his wing.
One of the best scenes of the entire series done in such a impactful way. Only way to bridge the gaps is to experience the reality from both perspectives best as possible.
NYPD Blue - was and is the very BEST police show that was ever on TV. This one scene resonates with tension and understanding. The scene where Fancy and Sipowicz exchange slugs in the bathroom was probably even better.
Yep but my fave is when Fancy said if someone in his family was part of an investigation he would want Andy to run it
Lt Fancy was the best. They had their issues but had respect for each other.
...now what if they had guns and badges? Powerful!
So this is a fun scene to watch, except for my personal experience - which was the exact opposite of Andy's. Best ribs I ever had was in Baltimore at a place on Liberty Rd. My wife and I were the only white people in there (we didn't plan it that way.) I did not feel any hostility directed toward my wife or myself, and we were not ignored. We were made to feel welcome by the staff and many of the patrons. I hope in the next life it's always like this, hoping that would be normal.
@@nobutur no need to antagonize. Go in looking for trouble, you can find it pretty quickly. Enjoy your meal. 👍🏾
Sometimes things are all in your head. No different than being in a restaurant in Mississippi and having the best catfish platter I ever tasted, despite being the only Black person in the room. People have a business to run. The color of money rules the day.
Herbert Johnson All in your head lol? Haha right. Look up at all the assaults people wearing MAGA gear have received. You’re the delusional one pal.
@@tearoll9212 may not have been just the wearing of maga gear. They may have been pure assholes about it. Got what they were looking for. Victimhood.
I think that is the point. You can go out and eat wherever you want, but what about your job? Places you have to be? A great scene.
Brilliantly written and acted, thought provoking.
One of the best scenes in the show's history. No matter what you think about race relations, this says it all.
@@johnogara3029 I'm pretty they sell smoked chicken as well.
Pulled pork...
Two tremendous actors and a great script that makes you think.
🔛 Exactly 👌 Fancy was a great character . Excellent scene.
I wish my boss took me out for ribs
My black boss did that once. I wasn't the only white guy there either, was about half and half.
beef or pork ribs?
@@WarrriorPoet
Pork for me. Slaw and beans!
@@TheBatugan77 I like Pork to. But Beef is excellent for Short Ribs.
I'm not an expert on race relations, but I thought it was extremely smart of fancy to get his point across in this manner. No screaming, no fighting. Just two men sitting down, having some good food, and then the point gets made from an honest perspective. I guess that's the word I would use to describe this scene: honest. It's clear that he's speaking from the heart and he wants to say a lot more, but he's smart enough to know that that won't work with Sipowicz. He wants to actually make his point stick.
So much nuance within 3 minutes. A great scene.
That scene resonates even today, sadly.
That's how you tell somebody about themselves. And he never raised his voice once. Outstanding scene!
Andy had to take it for what it was. Fancy was an awesome boss to have with out a doubt. Eat!!!😁
Good scene = considering todays heated tension ...... The show was a pioneer and did it well. Andy and Fancy developed as characters.
Sipowicz just got schooled.
Yes - but by someone who wanted him to get it, not just to "own" him/bring him down - but to raise him up.
The way Sip eyeballs Fancy with his lascivious glare after he said 2:32 "but what if they have guns and badges?" Whoa, if looks can kill ... 😯
It was so weird that they resented eachother throughout the years, but they were two different cops who had different views on their work. At the end they always had respect for another. Even after they had the fistfight, they still made up after that.
They resented each other maybe for awhile, but they came to terms and at the end they respected the hell out of each other. After the episode where Andy lost his gun after his son died and Fancy could have had his badge Andy really came to understand how much Fancy respected and appreciated him. It's too bad James McDaniel didn't stay on the show, I really enjoyed his acting and his dynamic with Andy.
@@mikewilliams7985It would've been great if McDaniel had stayed longer. Does anybody know why he left?
The depth and intensity of the scene notwithstanding, every time I waych this scene, I want ribs.
Superb scene
This is what teaching looks like...
Damn good show. Way ahead of it's time.
We need more of it today!
Except a Kentucky Fried Chicken would have been more accurate.
@@Harlem55, the brand has been tainted by trump!
No, it wasnt ahead of its time, we've just gone backward.
@@leeeastwood6368 I knew, my spidey senses tingled when read your comment. I knew, TYT subscriber, scroll through your subscriptions and boom there it was. There are conservatives, there are liberals, there are progressives, there is the middle, then there are TYT people that claim to be progressives, but support democrats who are really republicans. You guys are a special breed of fucked up.
I ain’t PC….not at all. But Fancy was spot on here.
this isn't PC so.
Lt fancy showed him a message without talking,maybe they wanted spit in your plate but they didn't,and he paid the check classy boss
One of the best all time television scenes.
This scene always made me hungry.
Jeffrey Negron I literally just ate lunch and this scene made me hungry.
Headed to Sonny's Barbeque right now!
The licking of the fingers is classic🤣
Andy and fancy came a long way to one of mutual respect and a friendship.
I love the relationship between Lt.Fancy and Andy
I miss this show so much! Arthur Fancy and Andy was a great storyline that showed ANYTHING can be worked out.
Under the heavens, man - we're all one family.
Be water, my friend.
We’re all pink on the inside……
Dude at the counter staring.
That scene is bad ass, like mind blowing.......
The dynaamic between Sipowhicz and Fancey was one of the best parts of this show.
The chemistry of both actors was outstanding.
They kept the tension going through all the years even as they improved the relationship.
The writing and acting was awesome
I was disapointed when James McDaniel left the show
Great writing and acting!
An AWESOME clip from the BEST COP SHOW ever on TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That waitress sure did slam that check down. With some attitude.
I never watched this show when it premiered, caught it on reruns on HEROES & ICONS.. AWESOME SHOW
Such a great scene. And without feeling contrived. Just Fancy finding a way to illustrate a point. In the later seasons, I thought the show lost some of what made the earlier seasons special.
It was all the supermodels they hired to play cops.
C Lee i don’t think that the cast had any issues. Like any real life work setting, the old dogs get older. People move on for the right reasons and sometimes the wrong reasons. And in some environments, the old dogs need to take what they’ve learned and pass it on to the next generation. In the case of NYPD Blue, Andy became the dad of the precinct. He calmed down in his later years, became more of a teacher, and always stood up for the kids even if there was a chance it could come back on him. Not only that, Rita calmed down along the way. Jones learned to lighten up a bit and not be such a Boy Scout, but he also kept his integrity. And in the last few episodes, you can see that Clark was becoming a young Sipowicz. A little more frustrated and hardened by his time on the job. A little hardened from what life had given him with his dad and girlfriend. And Andy stuck around long enough to sit on the other side of the desk. There has yet to be a show on television that shows the circle of life that any job can hold. NYPD Blue nailed it.
@@clee3133 blame the internets for that one.
It's our behavior everyday that shapes the future.
Great writing!
Lt Fancy shows how much smarter he is than Andy, but still keeps things civilized. Priceless.
I think Andy was a very intelligent person. Simply Fancy was a cultivated man, and intelligent of course. Education makes different
Been to several joints on the west side of Chicago like this and was noticed and I noticed but served well and all was good. White guy here. Soul food was really good. Tipped nicely and no complaints.
When the lieutenant said " My treat", Sipowitz should've said " No Lieutenant, you just put down enough free schooling and wisdom that I think it's only right that I cover the meal".
Great show! I started watching as a adult and love it
This show had some important moments , this was one of them.
A classic scene!
What a fantastic scene. I wish one of the networks offered NYPD Blue so I could go back and watch it all over again.
Hulu 👍🏾
@@kristaylor8196 thank you, didn't know that
James McDaniel has great screen presence throughout the show
What a show. Nothing like it before or since.
respect to dennis franz for committing to the food sweats bit for 12 entire seasons
Andy Sipowcz, and every Caucasian who watched NYPD BLUE at the time; received a lesson, regarding living life as a Minority...
Pollack's are a minority too.
Everybody of every color learned a lesson through this show.
Fancy the best Lu in the series
My Lord, this show was great.
I never watched the show.... I missed out! Thanks for the upload 👌
man, i rly get in the mood to rewatch the series 😀
unfortunately aprox ten years ago there were only the first two seasons available on german / PAL dvd
A seminal moment in their relationship.
That's some profound sit delivered as softly as a father reading a bedtime story to his child so that the child understands what is happening. The level of writing, the immaculate performance, aah
James McDaniel was spot-on perfect for that role.
My treat.
What a great scene. Fancy handled it masterfully.
Years ago, Bens Chili Bowl was recommended to me by a friend while in DC. I stopped there and had the best chili dog and cheese fries I ever ate. The guys at the counter helped me order exactly what I wanted. I was the white speck in that place and I even got a pic with Ms. Virginia. She was the nicest person you ever met. I actually seek out places like this because if the locals eat there, it is the good stuff. It is sometimes uncomfortable being the guy that looks much different, but I don't care that much. People are good wherever you go.
Beautiful scene.
this whole scene is just so powerful, people don't know how deep it is.
Sipowicz got owned, great scene.
This was one of the best scenes in the series. Real turning point Sipowitz and Fancy’s relationship/friendship.
Not one of my employer’s has taken me out for ribs. That’s fucked!
If only our schools taught lessons this well--it would transform our society!!
Outside of Dennis Franz, I really liked James McDaniel. Great acting, great boss and a good decent guy. I sorry to see him go.
I remember a scene when Fancy was asked about
The relationship and dynamic between these two was fantastic to behold and something that today's woke culture would never allow. The writing was so brilliant that we see inside of two complicated men with flaws, bigotries and warts. The only judgements made were for the viewer to absorb and decide. And at the end of the day, there was love, mutual respect and admiration between the two. Always unspoken, but always there.
Ridiculous comment about woke culture(there is no such thing) which tells us a great deal about your prejudices and ignorance. Spare us the comment about having Black friends. This scene works because Sipowicz was an unreconstucted racist and just like you would go to ridiculous lengths to justify his racism and expect black people to buy into his warped reasoning
@@christopherbenjamin3242: I'd like to thank you for possibly the stupidest and most self-serving comment I've read this week. It's always a fascinating read when people whom have never met me automatically assume a view as fact. As tempting as it is to want to get deeper into the thought process of someone as ignorant as obviously as bigoted as yourself, I'm going to resist because you really are that dense. But I wish you the best. You appear to be your own biggest fan anyway.
@@stevedrums1675 No one needs to meet you to realise that like still waters your bigotry runs deep. A casual use of "woke culture" in relation to a film that basically shines a light on people like you, defines you as keyboard warrior extraordinaire who can barely connect with the real world. Save your faux outrage for that position on the 19th hole as the resident golf bore or better still read some books, widen your social circle and try a bit harder to become a better and more rounded human being
@@christopherbenjamin3242: Chris: If I were as stupid as you appear to me, the last thing I'd be doing is broadcasting it on social media for the world to view. In fact, I'd be kind of ashamed of it. Live in your world, believe what you want to believe and I hope you've considered a second career as your psychic career hasn't quite hit the mark.
Be well and smarten up.
@@stevedrums1675 It's never too taxing to have to deal with low intellects such as you but immensely satisfying that with every syllable you prove me right. "Woke Culture"....you've spent too much time on your own, developing an inflated sense of your own importance whilst messaging from the basement of your Mums house. Something very Norman Bates about you but carry on and fill your boots, that's the life you've created. A modest man with much to be modest about.
Im watching this esp right now
i could really go for an atmosphere of a diner like that
The scene is so pertinent in today's day and age.
When the Camera pans at the beginning....I'm sure that's the crazy guy from one of if not the last episode of "FireFly"!...
Fancy schools Sipowicz, classic!
I think this is what they call "food for thought"...
Absolutely the best show.
That lesson holds up even more today.
“…now what if they had guns and badges???” 🤯 🤯 🤯
There is no doubt that James McDaniel was the right choice of actor to portray Lieutenant Arthur Fancy.
My favorite police drama ever!
Great scene
Brilliant scene BRILLIANT SCENE ❤❤❤❤
This is propably my favourite NYPD Blue scene.
Don't forget where it worked the other way with Fancy with not just white cops who had a problem with those of other races. His brother was on the job and got jammed up and met Fancy as he arrived for work telling him the cabbie recanted his statement. His brother apparently thought Arthur took care of it but was informed some people on his squad made things right then told him that "4 or 5 people reached out for him last night, not a brother in the bunch!" Sad to have seen him leave the series.
Brilliant
Why oh why can't TV be this good... this relevant... anymore.
Epic scene
Love this
I can’t imagine Sipowicz today locking up some Skel only to see him released before Andy gets back to his desk. Now imagine how most NYPD Cops feel.
Sipowitz would be banned from television today for being a racist. And because of that we wouldn’t have a great scene like this one.
A show written in mature way to handle mature subjects without causing more racist division. Boy i miss the 90's.
That says it well and sums up this time period. We were not divided the same way as we are now. There was still intelligence and nuance in our social interactions - and our art. This show - and this scene - exemplifies that. How far we've fallen.
This show needs to come back