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  • @a11537
    @a11537 7 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    this all changed, when the fire nation attacked

  • @krateproductions4872
    @krateproductions4872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    RIP your grandfather.
    He is probably one of the luckiest people to live on Earth *ever*

    • @niceone550
      @niceone550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really, this has already happened. We had about 80 years of general peace similar to today's situation after the collapse of Napoleon's France

    • @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat
      @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@niceone550 But I'm sure there was a war about needle firing paper catridge rifle.

    • @niceone550
      @niceone550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat What?

    • @luciferkotsutempchannel
      @luciferkotsutempchannel หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@niceone550Nah, even the concert of Europe had countries fighting each other in Europe. The Franco Prussian war is one example.

  • @Rgsetters
    @Rgsetters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Food for thought... Your graph about there being no wars in Europe since the EU could also be correlated with the invention of nuclear weapons.

    • @MatthewCobalt
      @MatthewCobalt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Acknowledgement: Achieved.
      The world maintaining peace is based on many factor.

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      True. But most countries in Europe don't have them

    • @Rgsetters
      @Rgsetters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Henry Pinkney I see your point. However there have not been wars between two nuclear weapon holding nations. And no country would invade a nuclear weapon holding nation.
      I do think the EU has contributed to peace is Europe but its not the only factor. The EU has good relations with many other countries outside the EU so there is more at play then the organisation itself.
      Not just nuclear weapons either, that was just an example. Being a democracy is a good indicator of having a peaceful community, at least with other democracies.

    • @couldbeanybody2508
      @couldbeanybody2508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@HistoryScope but they're part of an alliance/or backed by a nuclear power.

    • @unoriginal_username1
      @unoriginal_username1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      History Scope NATO ENSURES peace in Europe not the eu.

  • @generalgunner
    @generalgunner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    1:33 Wait, this looks familiar (Extra Credits)

  • @Jungfrun1
    @Jungfrun1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's a bit late but i am having a class focusing on International relation and the European union right now so they are trying to fix the problem.

  • @kittyandblue176
    @kittyandblue176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I’m from the eu so this didn’t help me but it did do a good job at telling what the eu stands for

    • @brenstevens774
      @brenstevens774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No your not from the EU the EU is not a country it's a project that's on decline

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Except the EU keeps integrating over time with every EU country havibg the stability of the EU as a geopolitical goal.
      So no. It's not in decline.

    • @brenstevens774
      @brenstevens774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@HistoryScope The EU have lost a major asset with Great Britain leaving the EU it will only make the UK stronger. So who's to say other countries might follow suit and say goodbye to the unelected dictators as the UK have. That's always a potential option for other European nations perhaps there could be an opportunity for them countries to have referendum on staying or leaving who knows

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      1. A the UK's shit show has caused most anti-eu parties to significantly tone down their rhetoric.
      2. The EU isn't a dictatorship... Hence the elections to parliament and elections of each head of state, national minister, etc.
      3. The UK isn't better off. Less trade results in Leeds prosperity... That's why the UK kept coming back to the EU begging for a deal while the EU didn't really care all that much.
      4. Support for the EU has only grown since then.
      5. The poor countries need the EU money, the rich countries need the extra customers, the South needs the open borders for tourism, the North needs them for export, etc.
      6. In a world increasingly dominated by superpowers, European nations can either become their servant (such as the UK or Australia with the USA), or join together to form a united front.
      Hence the EU, dispite its issues, is a necessity for any country European country that wants to maintain its independence from superpowers.

    • @brenstevens774
      @brenstevens774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@HistoryScope I leave you and your anti British agenda to it

  • @goncaloaguiar
    @goncaloaguiar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I like how you maintained Scotland painted in blue.

    • @niceone550
      @niceone550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's that good? Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom, a country

    • @Robert-tl2vg
      @Robert-tl2vg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @dylan murphy Scotland is a province of the United Kingdom. It’s not a country.
      He isn’t correct, you’re just butt hurt.

    • @kennypriest7434
      @kennypriest7434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Robert-tl2vg Scotland is legally a COUNTRY within the united kingdom with its own government and Parliament and which has a legal system separate from england, wales and northern ireland !!!

  • @dieterhofner7043
    @dieterhofner7043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You could elaborate about the different organs under the EU and what function they have the EU goes beyond trade and a army.

    • @DumpTruckOfH
      @DumpTruckOfH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      there are 5 more videos

  • @leboyneski5464
    @leboyneski5464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It was Nato and the Soviet threat that kept Europe at peace the EU had a negligable impact.

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Then Turkey and Cyprus wouldn't have been at war, nor would peace have maintained for the 30 years after that. It also ignores the fact that when countries' economies intertwine in other regions of the world that a similar peace occurs between those countries.

    • @leboyneski5464
      @leboyneski5464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@HistoryScope Nato was far more influential in the intertwining of military industries. On the conflict between Turkey and Cyprus, it was just the Turkish government seizing an oppurtunity to invade Cyprus, the EU did nothing to prevent European armies from invading Iraq in a similairly oppurtunistic move, EU ideals of peace being overstepped by NATO pragmatism. However in the end the biggest problem with this argument is that the changing global economy and more importantly the changing zeitgeist have developed to a stage were war is no longer seen as a viable way of dealing with international conflict.

    • @nevets2371
      @nevets2371 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leboyneski5464 war has gotten too expensive and costly for nations to undertake anymore.

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except wars are still happening. So it's not too expensive.

    • @AndreAndFriends
      @AndreAndFriends 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nevets2371 the most profitable business is the war business!!!
      Trust me!!! Or we will invade you!!!

  • @FilK79
    @FilK79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Tell it to me. I am from Yugoslavia and I was promised EU 30 years ago and still seen none of it besides war, blood and political manipulation

    • @pavlox3602
      @pavlox3602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is no Yugoslavia

    • @FilK79
      @FilK79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pavlox3602 I was born in Yugoslavia and grew up there

    • @pippofranco879
      @pippofranco879 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FilK79 Yugo is gone, bruv, deal with it

    • @MajorMlgNoob
      @MajorMlgNoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only 2 former Yugoslav nations are in the EU and they both joined after the war

    • @FilK79
      @FilK79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MajorMlgNoob The only one is Slovenia, Croatia joined like yesterday with Brexit already in place and hardly any benefit from EU

  • @behzadahmad8818
    @behzadahmad8818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Peace is never eternal.

    • @gwho
      @gwho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it is, fight me.

    • @Wiibiplay
      @Wiibiplay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gwhowar is peace?

  • @AD-cf7yg
    @AD-cf7yg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is an ideal indeed, but how it is put into practice...that is a whole other thing, one that is definetely not working

  • @SquirrelsforLunch
    @SquirrelsforLunch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    @AveryThing Been digging your videos for a while now whenever the youtube algorithm in its infinite wisdom has decided to direct me to one of your videos, so thought it was about time to have a more comprehensive look at your content. Being intrigued to the extent I have been so far by what I have managed to see of your channel's offering has now led me to your earliest works (which I likely would have never seen otherwise) and I must say: Your more recent videos look and feel much more polished than these earlier ones; that you've become more experienced and confident as a youtuber in that time would be a logical assumption why that is. However, any "lack" of polish to be seen here does nothing to diminish my enjoyment. For my part, you've every reason to take significant pride in the substance and quality of the videos you upload.
    P.S. De manier waarover je in deze video over de EU sprak vond ik ook merkwaardig. Is zowat identiek aan mijn eigen mening over de waarde van de EU, in ieder geval in hoe ik menig euroscepticus heb verteld om hun bestaan in een europa zonder oorlog dankbaar te zijn.
    He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past.

  • @Harshmeister123
    @Harshmeister123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    As an American, I appreciate a helpful explanation.

    • @galactorsus_i.n.c
      @galactorsus_i.n.c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Xd i think we everyone does, trust me as European i have no clue what their doing, ik a little bit from TH-cam but that's all lol

    • @derrickjones8920
      @derrickjones8920 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me to

    • @AndreAndFriends
      @AndreAndFriends 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@galactorsus_i.n.c they don’t know what are they doing, too. UE burrecrouts.

    • @niceone550
      @niceone550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is propaganda and will not explain the situation

  • @theojohn2603
    @theojohn2603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never Knew Much About the EU, it made me think some People take it for Granted, But I feel like my Opinion about The EU is It has Done Best as it can. Within Brexit, It kinda made Politicians Look Bad on Making a Deal.

  • @liquidpiss7368
    @liquidpiss7368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The EU simply isn't the only - or even the main - cause of peace in Europe. Other factors like the proliferation of NATO, nuclear weapons and democracy have also played a crucial and arguably greater role. We have actual examples of NATO and nuclear weapons helping to stop conflicts both between European nations and between superpowers abroad. Conversely, there are no examples of the EU stopping wars between their members. Granted, this is partly because no two EU members have ever been close to war, but then your argument sounds a bit like "There are no snakes around this rock, therefore this rock scares away snakes". Furthermore, there have actually been wars in Europe and involving even wars involving EU members since the advent of the EU. The EU existing parallel to peace isn't evidence that the EU causes peace. You could happily say that the EU helps to foster peace through encouraging freedom and international trade, but you just said "EU=Peace", and it isn't nearly that simple.

    • @roderickgerard7853
      @roderickgerard7853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It is more that the European Union has made war between nations impossible, the European Coal and Steel Community, ECSC was there not only to promote the reconstruction of Europe after world war 2 but to stop the two giants France and Germany (then West Germany) from fighting another war, through the ECSC the Germans and French could monitor each other's military expansion as they can see their steel and coal use, remember that at the time Germany (West Germany) wasn't part of NATO until 1955 while the ECSC was formed in 1951. NATO protected the 1st World from the 2nd World, but even than Europe still didn't always like NATO or American Corporatism, France even withdrew from the integrated High Command kicking any and all foreign troops from its land as a show to gain back its sovereignty from the USA (not withdrawing from the EEC or ECSC), NATO is American centred and Europeans still do not except that, for example; why are Skyscrapers not that popular in Europe? Because the Europeans saw it as an American culture thing and thus didn't actively promote or pursue such constructs. The European Union is European Centred along the Berlin-Paris Axis, where although those two have more influence compared to other nations in the EU they are European and thus we are more inclined to them than the USA. Also, core decision in the EU still need total approval of all States including Malta to pass through Unanimity voting, thus even when they have influence, the core power is still protected and also the interest of the nations. I agree that the EU isn't the main cause for peace between the Soviet Bloc and the Western Bloc but in today's world it is the EU now not NATO that protects the peace in the continent and prosperity, as even Trump is endangering NATO + with the UK exiting a path towards a European Integrated High Command instead of a NATO one is more likely as both Germany, France and smaller nations with a lack of military presence support such motion more and more as this wold becomes more chaotic.

  • @cryptearth
    @cryptearth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm a proud EU citizen - and although I was born in east-germany, and therefore I'm still be ever so slightly communistic biased in my head, my heart belongs to the dream of the big european country be ONE EUROPE once and for all. Once Europe will become ONE - it will be Ourope (yes, "in soviet Russia" pun intended - as said: I'm biased).
    As a german citizen I already enjoy the freedoms of free speech, free travel, free religion - and peace. I take them as granted by the EU (and the re-unification of my fatherland) - this somewhat crazy idea wich brought the Soviet Union to fall. We'll see, if history strikes again and if the unification of Europe may be its end.
    So, to answer the question: "Do WE need the EU?" - currently: YES, Europe >has to< become ONE - but only future will tell if it's a good idea ...

    • @tardvandecluntproductions1278
      @tardvandecluntproductions1278 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Although a nice ideal, I don't think that will happen soon as we all have to agree and give a lot more of the power to the EU. But we are groing towards that slowly, maybe never reaching it, but at least closer to becomming one!

    • @cryptearth
      @cryptearth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tardvandecluntproductions1278 I have to admit at least I can understand where your thought about "maybe europe wont ever become one" comes, and maybe it's better if it doesn't happen, but at least for me it's dream not just worth to dream it but to work/fight (in terms of "I want this to happen", not actual war) for

    • @CaptainGrimes1
      @CaptainGrimes1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's why you like the EU, it's like the old USSR, undemocratic and bureaucratic and intent on destroying national identity

    • @patriziostoll3920
      @patriziostoll3920 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      CaptainGrimes1 uff Maybe it has some problems with the transparency. but if we give up the hole united government, it will do more harm then good stuff. Axel Voss is an CDU Boomer that is a “little bit” influenced by Universal music and others. But we have more politics sitting in Brussels and Strasbourg.
      @cryptheath Außerdem grüße aus NRW

    • @cryptearth
      @cryptearth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CaptainGrimes1 as mentioned: yes, as someone from east-germany I really am biased - and although I know it may not be a good idea if the eu becomes a 2nd ussr I still want to see it first (and may see it fail) instead of dooming it upfront
      if one region on this planet currently has a chance to become united as one like it's often pictured in futuristic novels it's europe - as we hopefully learned from our past and all the wars
      it's sad to see what putin currently does to ukrain - and I hope this will be resolved asap - but it shows that there're still serious conflicts in modern europe

  • @KingofDrama1
    @KingofDrama1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is giving too much credit to the European Union. World Peace is more due to the nuclear deterrent, the Cold War with the 2 superpowers rebuilding the states (Marshall Plan in the west), the Breton Woods Conference making none of the free market nations needing a blue water navy to protect their trade, and the opening of US markets.

    • @thelazy0ne
      @thelazy0ne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He referred to Europe. Pay attention!

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't prevent something with fear.
      We didn't go to war because we chose not to.
      And now Russia is putting the lie to nukes preserving peace.
      Hell, we've been involved in _constant_ foreign wars for the last 30 years.
      And yet all our nukes didn't stop those.
      China's trying to seize the South China sea and all that surrounds it,
      Global trade with the EU is _massive,_ they're the richest entity in the world, yet we don't need to patrol the sea lanes with enormous blue water navies.
      Yes, America gave loans to Europe to rebuild.
      But to be fair, the allies were the ones who demolished it in the first place.
      Yes we needed to, _it was necessary_
      But that's doesn't get us off the hook from buying what you broke.

  • @TheTariqibnziyad
    @TheTariqibnziyad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    war between great nations ended because of nuclear bombs not because of the EU; petty wars still happen around the world; terrorism still happens too

    • @hannibalbarca3348
      @hannibalbarca3348 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but it's not just the physical wars that have stopped in Europe but also the economic wars.

    • @alexandersan1999
      @alexandersan1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, not just fear of nuclear destruction. It is also a matter of game theory. Countries are benefitting from trade. ”Where trade is not happening, soldiers will cross borders”. Which is truely true. The EUs free inner market created this kind of ”Peace”.

  • @julonkrutor4649
    @julonkrutor4649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4:20 You forgot one thing: It is the promise, that will defend eachother nomatter the cost. That we will die for eachother, if nessecery.

    • @sionsmedia8249
      @sionsmedia8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's NATO not the EU.

    • @julonkrutor4649
      @julonkrutor4649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sionsmedia8249 read the treaty. NATO comitts the nations to support each other...that could mean in an extrem case literally "we pray for you".
      The EU treaty is an ironclad "you have to send troops" treaty and "no separate peace" on top. There is a small difference.

  • @daemonflex5253
    @daemonflex5253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What's up with the Balkan wars?

  • @codyholllingsworth2944
    @codyholllingsworth2944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think that you have a point, however I would argue that the creation of nuclear bombs has kept every Great Power in the world since WWII, in check. It's the reason that the Cold War didn't turn into WWIII. Some call it "The Long Peace". However, we'd be fooling ourselves if we told each other that the days of the Great Powers declaring war upon each other, were gone for good. I think I can safely predict that there will be major wars within the next 100 years over resources. It will be out of desperation. But, that doesn't take away from your point. Europe and its allies stand stronger together. Too bad we can't seem to draw Russia into the fold. But, as an American I am also a firm believer in NATO as well.

    • @TheLameFlameYT
      @TheLameFlameYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This aged pretty well, ngl

  • @danielajanett1569
    @danielajanett1569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Watching this video right now while the ukraine is invaded by russia does give me quite a special feeling. ( And yes I know, they both are not in the EU) but still. It's heartbreaking.
    As a swiss, I'm not a big fan of the EU to be honest but I totally get the idea of a union to protect the peace and to govern those countries.
    I just do think that some countries were better off before they were part of the EU, like greece, portugal, or italy and I kinda miss the old currencies. (Maybe just a nostalgic thing of mine, dk) and I also think that some demands are almost impossible for those countries to fulfill. I mean, I'm blessed that I was born here and everythin is stable and working but if there would ever be a voting about being a member of the EU, I would never vote yes. But maybe we are just lucky because we don't need them.

    • @greywolf187
      @greywolf187 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow youre fucking stupid. Switzerland may not be in the EU but you enjoy the 4 freedoms the EU citizens enjoy. Im sure you, your people and your government would be pretty pissed off if those were taken from you. The EU is the greatest achievment in western civilisation and you wouldnt enjoy the 4 freedoms without it.

    • @gastonrelanez3724
      @gastonrelanez3724 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "and to govern those countries" is exactly why no one is a fan of the EU. Now they want to topple Poland and Hungary so later on the whole EU is one big homogenous dystopian block

  • @mariaeduardaalbuquerque7644
    @mariaeduardaalbuquerque7644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    View do Brazil. Cool channel

  • @placeholder1308
    @placeholder1308 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thid channels art style is a lot like Extra Credits

  • @thereviewers30303
    @thereviewers30303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love how u took the art style from EC channcel x)
    Keep going man :D

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've changed it in my recent videos. When I first started I never even thought I'd get more than a 1000 views on any of my videos... But now that they get a lot more I've changed the art style :)

    • @thereviewers30303
      @thereviewers30303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HistoryScope i noticed it yes, really love the videos you create,
      Hope the channel will grow even more ^^

  • @lorenzosgarza
    @lorenzosgarza 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hope your channel grows, also good video chief.
    OH YEAH YEAH

  • @emperorclaudius5499
    @emperorclaudius5499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Sure the ideals behind the EU are beautiful, however it does very little to uphold those values even in some cases openly undermining them. It's also a naked appeal to nationalism to say the EU is the main cause of peace in Europe. If the EU collapsed tomorrow Napoleon, Julius Caesar or even Hitler wouldn't suddenly return from the grave to take back their dead empires. It's the modern age, peoples attitudes have changed, the way they access knowledge has all changed, the people wouldn't stand for war on that scale anymore no matter how hard some tyrant tried to convince them otherwise. The west has learned its lesson about war and unless aliens invade you'll have a hard time getting them on board for that lunacy again EU or not.

    • @Adrian-rb4qp
      @Adrian-rb4qp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Emperor Claudius if you think we’ve learned not to go to war you’re sorely mistaken. It didn’t stop France britian and America going to war in the Middle East nor did it stop Russia going to war in Ukraine.
      Having the EU as a sectiruty just to be safe, is the best option because as far as I know it’s working.

    • @aiden6667
      @aiden6667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The ideals of communism were great too.Complete equality.But communism gave us over 100 million dead people who starved or were killed,ethnic displacement in Soviet Union,political murders,leftist terrorism and countries that still haven't recovered from bankrupcy.Ideals are great but they are just abstract concepts,sometimes you do have to look at reality

  • @BigBen444
    @BigBen444 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I respect your opinion and you make valid points, but I am not in favour of the European Union, especially due to how it is run today.

    • @tacticalidiots2340
      @tacticalidiots2340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it run. Go on.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm overall pro EU but wish theyd try to make it run better. The biggest failings IMO are:
      1. the lack of a serious political system with representatives that do a decent job conveying their countries needs AND having a centralized authority that can represent the EU as a whole to the world. They need a EU military and EU intelligence agency that can represent the EU internationally.
      2. They dont necessarily need to centralize authority within the EU but they need to have a central authority outside the EU. Meaning when it comes to major international issues they need to be able to come to a decision and act on it in a timely manner. Currently there's too much bickering and a lack of a central governing body to act so theres constant in fighting.
      3. They need to face outside opposition. Whenever someone acts against the EU such as russia, china, or the migrant crisis the EU either bows to the opposition or they just ignore the problem and hope it sorts itself out. Currently that usually means hoping the individual member states take care of it themselves (assuming they both are cpapable of doing that and can do.it within the confines of EU laws) or that means hoping that the US will solve the problem for them. If the US cant solve their problem or God forbid the US _IS_ the problem the EU is screwed.
      4. The EU as a whole isnt pulling its weight when it comes to international issues. The member states may help but the EU as a whole isnt. When wars pop up or a crisis hits the EU is either unwilling to contribute or is too busy arguing to do anything. The Yugoslav wars, the invasion of Ukraine, the collapse of nations across the middle east, the rising threat of China, etc. Some member states have even gone as far as to dismantle their militaries and external intelligence agencies to save money, forcing other states to protect them which puts burdens on their neighbors.
      5. The lack of central projects. They need to work together to perform large scale infrastructure and scientific projects. They currently do these but not on the scale that the worlds largest economy is capable of. As scale increases so does efficiency on many large scale projects, i.e. one giant power plant will produce more power per dollar invested than 10 smaller power plants.
      These are just a few major issues I have. The EU is doing good but its capable of so much more and isnt even close to its potential.

  • @hansgruber788
    @hansgruber788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    True about the peace part, except that there was 99 years of peace in Europe from the end of the napoleonic wars till ww1

  • @alexanderhorspool1906
    @alexanderhorspool1906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like most of your videos. This one was super ideological tho. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with being pro-eu. But it comes across as utopian, and actually surprisingly naive coming from you of all TH-camrs. You make the point that Europe has been at peace, and yet gloss over the fact that the longest period of general peace between European nations was quite recent, and was between the end of the napoleonic wars and wwi. And, of course, you chalk up the lack of warfare to the EU, when nuclear capability and the neutering of ultra-nationalist and intra-european imperial ambitions post WWII (fascism discredited, egalitarian/democratic ideals ascendant, and a war-weary attitude among the political class reminiscent of post-napoleonic Europe) are far more potent explanatory factors behind the peace.
    So don't get me wrong, I'm indifferent on the European union as an Australian, I just don't think it is this ideal of a united Europe which keeps the peace, call me a cynic. The pros of economic unity and coordinated civil leadership impress me, but I balk at the idea of a Pan-European army. God, that sounds horrifying. A European army should be born out of war as a defensive alliance, and should disband from united leadership after a war. There should be military coordination between members, to ensure they can cooperate in a time of crisis. But dead lord, NEVER a united military! That seems super unstable, with so many languages, ideologies, and lingering religious differences across Europe. Think Yugoslavia, but Europe sized, and with some states having nukes, and a unified government which could go rogue/radical at some point. Yikes. Gimme neo-lib trash economic union any day over that.

    • @sotch2271
      @sotch2271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Abd i mean how would the chain of command would direct people without people all talking the same language ? Austria hungary sufferred the same problem in their war

  • @SamSam-df4ow
    @SamSam-df4ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey history scope do you check comments

  • @nonohitters
    @nonohitters 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wow, really powerful and inspirational man. You really got at what's important. Don't stop speaking the truth in your way

  • @niceone550
    @niceone550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has happened before, it happened after the Napoleonic wars for about 80 years

    • @duruarute5445
      @duruarute5445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it didn't lol

    • @niceone550
      @niceone550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@duruarute5445 yes it did, there was no war besides minor skirmishes

  • @niceone550
    @niceone550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why is Northern Ireland part of the Republic of Ireland here?

    • @irishbattletoster9265
      @irishbattletoster9265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Prop just a mistake

    • @niceone550
      @niceone550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@irishbattletoster9265 I highly doubt it, considering this is a blatant propaganda piece

    • @hosseinramez3293
      @hosseinramez3293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because brexit will cause Ireland unification.

    • @niceone550
      @niceone550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hosseinramez3293 Keep crying, Ulster is British

    • @hosseinramez3293
      @hosseinramez3293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@niceone550 We'll see

  • @theshitpostcaretaker4916
    @theshitpostcaretaker4916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    if a revolution happens that they can still declare war on the others and peace was not brung by the EU. And even if it did we have the UN and NATO as better versions anyway
    BREXIT MEANS BREXIT

    • @astrolys3482
      @astrolys3482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AlexGamesAnder20008 UN doesn’t bring Peace. There was and are many conflicts in the world since the creation of the UN. Nato is just an alliance controlled by the US that seeks war from which we need as europeans to get out. The EU is the only real peace bringer here.

    • @acvmnt2656
      @acvmnt2656 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's one of the worst arguments for Brexit I've ever seen..."EU countries can declare war on each other so EU bad"
      Absolute idiot

    • @pepela8214
      @pepela8214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol great argument man "wars still happen so eu bad brexit means brexit"
      honestly thats one of the worst arguments i have ever seen...

  • @lgbrosgaming735
    @lgbrosgaming735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is Montenegro Servia in thos Vodeo

  • @BeanieGamerIn1080p
    @BeanieGamerIn1080p 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talk about the Tulsa Massacre.

  • @dziugas1959
    @dziugas1959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't think he knows what is NATO

  • @irishdc9523
    @irishdc9523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well, there was the Autumn Spring, the war in the Balkans and Russia's meddling in the Caucasus

    • @Solbm27
      @Solbm27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not in the EU....

    • @irishdc9523
      @irishdc9523 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Solbm27 But in Europe. If the EU is to be the example of a unified continent, it can't exclude our fellow Europeans simply because they're not part of a trade bloc

    • @Solbm27
      @Solbm27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@irishdc9523 not really how it works...

    • @irishdc9523
      @irishdc9523 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Solbm27 Can we not put political pressure on Russia or act as a mediator in disputes?

    • @Solbm27
      @Solbm27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@irishdc9523 we can ...the people can put pressure on the institutions and force them to act, yes. But that has got nothing to do with the effect that the EU has had in the prosperity and peace of the countries that conform it. That's what's being explained in this video....

  • @wbcx4491
    @wbcx4491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:28 Extra History

  • @ingenparks
    @ingenparks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm echoing everyone who said your argument of peace is invalid. The USA/USSR confrontation, the threat of nuclear annihilation, the memory of the horror of WW1 (for France and the UK) and WW2 (for Germany), all are responsible for the current peace. The EU is not.

  • @arkfamkk7046
    @arkfamkk7046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one

  • @IgorMgtowandVideoGames
    @IgorMgtowandVideoGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this video its great and i really like it

  • @lorumipsum1129
    @lorumipsum1129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You don't need the EU for peace these nation's should be able to get along without intertwining themselves so deep into one another's affairs.

    • @guillaumearnould7836
      @guillaumearnould7836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet is the EU wasnt created there would not have been a big deal about nato and alot of europe would be at war with eachother. And who knows what other people would do if all these countries hadent united and decided to make peace.

    • @Spino2722
      @Spino2722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@guillaumearnould7836what abou nato buddy

    • @Spino2722
      @Spino2722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@guillaumearnould7836what about nato buddy

  • @weebrahim
    @weebrahim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I voted for Brexit but this makes me sympathise with against brexit voters
    The idea of an eu army is scary tho.
    Too much power.

    • @Konmonachi
      @Konmonachi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh hey Weebrahim! How’s going in UK and you?
      Also, discord? Because i no longer have twitter now.

  • @wsaxon3974
    @wsaxon3974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Generally a great video but you must distinguish between and not conflate ‘Europe’ with the ‘EU’. And, Europe nor the EU is a ‘country’!

  • @tahziirakoze9437
    @tahziirakoze9437 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm American and my answer is a resounding, uncontested, supremely all encompassing, "No!".

    • @MajorMlgNoob
      @MajorMlgNoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? The EU makes the European economy much stronger and allows them to not rely so much on America especially once the European Army is formed

  • @sionsmedia8249
    @sionsmedia8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You got this exactly right. The EU is a DREAM, a post WW2 era dream, but that post WW2 era has been gone for a long time now, and almost everone that lived through WW2 is now gone. The world is a different place now and the EU should no longer exist.
    War did not end because of the EU, the EU was created because war ended (for now). WW2 ended in 1945, the European Coal and Steal community started in 1952, 1952 was after 1945.
    War ended because of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction), because Western Europe (NATO US Allies) and Eastern Europe (Russian Allies) would have destroyed everything if they went to war. War also ended in the Eastern Block (no EU).
    But when MAD ended when the USSR and Eastern Block collapsed war started again, Yugoslavia, Georgia, Belarus, Ukraine, although they were not in the EU, an example of a war inside the EU would be the Troubles, which started in 1960s and the UK and Ireland both joined the EU together in 1973, but the Troubles didn't end until 1998.
    Also the EU doesn't do anything with wars it is economical, NATO is what stopped European countries from going to war with eachother. Ireland coincidentally is not a part of NATO.
    Also saying the EU has helped European economies is just not true now, in 1950 the EU was about 26% of the global economy, in 2001 the EU was only 20% of the global economy, now it's about 15% and is continuing to lower.
    The EU now only benefits the rich, and the only countries it's good for is Germany and slightly France, because they are the most powerful and dominate the EU. The EU is just a technocratic state, that does not hold the democratic values of the people, because the people might disagree with the elite (like with the EU constitution that people voted against, and then they just rebranded the same thing as the Lisbon treaty which went without a vote by the people, Brexit being the exeption but that's all about going away from the EU)
    It just extracts money from members, and the working class everywhere. It does not allow countries to make the best economy for themselves.
    And to end with a quote from the former president of the European Commision (not elected by the people)
    Jean-Claude Juncker before the French voted on the Constitution:
    "If it's a Yes, we will say 'on we go', and if it's a No we will say 'we continue'."

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Except most countries don't have nuclear weapons, making MAD not applicable to most countries in the world.

    • @sionsmedia8249
      @sionsmedia8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoryScope NATO is "an attack on one is an attack on all" so as long as one country in NATO has nukes it is the same as all of them having nukes, and 3 NATO members have nukes (US, UK, France), and it was the same with the Eastern Block, and Russia obviously has nukes.
      Also can you not answer any of the other points, does the EU not stand up to scrutiny.

  • @miltonfarmer1139
    @miltonfarmer1139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I agree with the founding principles of the European Union, I disagree with its current state, and, with the aims of hard/strict unionists. I believe Economic Cooperation can be achieved without subjectating member-nations. The EU is simply too big, and, too populous to be ruled as a single country.
    There are obvious needs the EU fills. Europe must be strong in the face of the United States, and, the Russian Federation. But, giving up national sovereignty would only lead to tyranny.
    I was an American by birth, but, later achieved citizenship in a few different European countries. I spent more time growing up in Europe than I did in the US. I believe the same things for the US as I do for Europe: I support separate currencies, separate armies, etc. I am no hypocrite.

    • @duruarute5445
      @duruarute5445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "I was an American by birth" yeah and it shows

  • @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat
    @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is why I didn't know much about EU >

  • @tomaszgarbino2774
    @tomaszgarbino2774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much talk about solidarity, and yet the Netherlands were blocking Romania's access to the Schenen zone for years on end, strictly for bullshit reasons. Now Austria took their place, also strictly so they can use it for internal politics. I'm not even Romanian, but it's distasteful.

  • @Gia1911Logous
    @Gia1911Logous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a Greek-Cypriot, I disagree wholeheartedly

    • @rosspatterson1233
      @rosspatterson1233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. I’m so thankful my country got out. I hope others will join us

    • @hosseinramez3293
      @hosseinramez3293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosspatterson1233 Hello 48% in your country said NO! And you think others will join?

    • @rosspatterson1233
      @rosspatterson1233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hosseinramez3293 52% said yes, and euroscepticism is on the rise

    • @hosseinramez3293
      @hosseinramez3293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosspatterson1233 Don't worry you will soon show others why they shouldn't leave and it will fall again

    • @hosseinramez3293
      @hosseinramez3293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosspatterson1233 Also Albania and Macedonia are going to joining EU SO???

  • @7bombarie
    @7bombarie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The EU didn't bring peace, it might even cause war. NATO and the European Coal and Steel Community (ECSC), later EEC, brought peace.
    As for The Netherlands: since 1946 we fought wars in the Dutch Indies, New Guinee, Korea and Iraq.Not in Europe, but especially in the former three, many have died...

    • @Adrian-rb4qp
      @Adrian-rb4qp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Peter Vink the EU did bring peace. You say NATO borough peace but that didn’t stop you from going to war the places you listed?
      NATO does not make war impossible, as you can see with America in the Middle East, or the fact that turkey and Greece currently have weapons towards each other
      The EU does however make it Fully impossible to wage war because our economies are tied together

    • @sionsmedia8249
      @sionsmedia8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Adrian-rb4qp You say Greece and Turkey have wepons towards eachother, but that's all that is just posturing, they haven't actually gone to war with eachother, and if they do, what will the EU do? The EU can't help Greece fight because the EU (currently) doesn't connect any millitary, but NATO on the other hand will actually go defend Greece, because that's what it is designed to do.
      And as you and @Peter Vink said wars have not stopped, so the EU definitely, by your own admission has not prevented wars.

  • @user-cz8gi2om3n
    @user-cz8gi2om3n 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Every imperialist ever: "we can have perfect peace and prosperity, if the nations will just submit themselves to being ruled by their betters."

  • @n1mnetwork
    @n1mnetwork 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Cooperation is the Future! Go Europe! Let's work together :)

  • @heartycann3783
    @heartycann3783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful explaination.
    Don't hate anybody ..
    But peace comes only after war

  • @JollyOlStan-hh2is
    @JollyOlStan-hh2is 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do we really need WW3

  • @UrskogTrolle
    @UrskogTrolle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A long time ago there were people who referred to themselves as Prussians, Hessens and Saxons. Then they united and today they are Germans. There were also people that called themselves Texans and Californians. Today they are Americans. Why can't we do the same? Instead of being Swedes, Belgians and Italians we simply become Europeans!
    It has happened so many times before! It WILL happen again, if not with Europe then Puerto Ricans will in the near future become Americans. If we stop looking at our differences and instead look at our similarities, we can become Europeans.
    I genuinely hope that one day I will be a Swede the same way Bernard Sanders is a Vermonter and like Bernard Sanders is an American I hope, someday, that I will a European.
    I'm hoping that one day I will see a Federalisation of the European Union, a.k.a. the United States of Europe.
    This whole series is great. I've learned so much about the EU and I really hope that the EU will realise that they communicate far too little with its citizens. Almost criminally little. Seriously, the more I learn about the EU, the more pro-EU I become!

    • @christiantheone8952
      @christiantheone8952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, thank you. I don't want to be part of the European Caliphate. You keep dreaming . Non-EU Caliphate has to go! The sooner, the better.

    • @christiantheone8952
      @christiantheone8952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "A long time ago there were Prussians, Hessens and Saxons"...the Germans, yeah, that was long time ago, now, there are TURKS, ARABS, AFGANS, AFRICANS... the "Germans".

    • @UrskogTrolle
      @UrskogTrolle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just so you know, you just opened a can of worms...
      A caliphate enforces islam, correct? Is the EU forcing you to be a muslim? Is even the majority of EU-citizens muslims? NO! The majority of EU-citizens are christian AND the EU is SECULAR, which means that no religion is being enforced on anybody. Which means that the EU are not more of a caliphate than the US or the UK.
      I've also noticed how eurosceptics tend to call the EU a new Soviet, a dictatorship. None of this are true and the only reason why somebody would try and make those comparisons would be to make the EU look bad, but once you do just a little bit of research, assuming you don't outright ignore the facts you don't like, you will realize that the EU is not communist (most communists are actually eurosceptics themselves), it's not a dictatorship (we do have elections which are not phony they in North Korea) and it's certainly not a caliphate!
      The EU has let in a lot of muslim immigrants. That is undisputed. But why? Because they want to spread islam to the Europeans? To kill all the European infidels? NO! They let in refugees, who happen to have been born in majority muslim-countries, who are escaping war and almost certain death!
      Some of them might stand a chance in Daesh (ISIS)-controlled areas, if they become soldiers and help Daesh grow even more.
      That said, if the EU had been a caliphate or a Soviet Union, I too would want them destroyed. But the fact is: THEY ARE NOT!!!
      PS. If you or anybody else managed to read all the way through and you still think that the EU is a caliphate, a dictatorship, communist, fascist or anything like that, please explain to me how you reached that conclusion. And you better do it like I was a child because after all of my research, and I've done a lot of research, I can't find a single shred of evidence to prove me wrong, but plenty to prove me right!

    • @Adrian-rb4qp
      @Adrian-rb4qp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      UrskogTrolle Thank you for stansing up and saying the truth.

    • @OneEyeShadow
      @OneEyeShadow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christiantheone8952 You know, all you do is make Eurosceptics look bad.

  • @ed.d8065
    @ed.d8065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What did the eu do for Ukraine?

    • @sionsmedia8249
      @sionsmedia8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well that would put them in conflict with Russia, so nothing, Germany needs the Russian oil

  • @inquation4491
    @inquation4491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A tad pro EU 😅

  • @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat
    @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait is this art style actually, for public use (?
    Nevermind human can share art.

  • @rumpleforeskin5064
    @rumpleforeskin5064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done

  • @shononoyeetus8866
    @shononoyeetus8866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Brit here. havent collapsed yet. seems to going well

    • @shononoyeetus8866
      @shononoyeetus8866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yet

    • @pippofranco879
      @pippofranco879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shononoyeetus8866 Italian, same here

    • @pippofranco879
      @pippofranco879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YET!

    • @stevenleslie8557
      @stevenleslie8557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      As a Yank, I am glad the UK pulled out. You deserve better than this. Another layer of government eliminated. We have plenty of people over here who what to lead us around by a nose ring. It is a constant fight.

    • @haas9649
      @haas9649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenleslie8557 Hello there, just wanted to say... OK.

  • @lgbrosgaming735
    @lgbrosgaming735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is Montenegro Serbia in this Video

  • @wojathome
    @wojathome 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am Human, European and a Londoner :-)

    • @christiantheone8952
      @christiantheone8952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Then you probably are an Arab muslim or an Indian :))

    • @nleak92
      @nleak92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does that make someone who is from Switzerland or Norway not a European because they aren’t in the EU?

    • @Adrian-rb4qp
      @Adrian-rb4qp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nathan Leak nope

    • @CaptainGrimes1
      @CaptainGrimes1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you're not British then? Figures

    • @OneEyeShadow
      @OneEyeShadow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CaptainGrimes1 Real Brits don't think of themselves as British. You're either English, Scottish, Welsh or too intoxicated to think.

  • @f.u.noseyassstalker7147
    @f.u.noseyassstalker7147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the E. U. , Had. Nothing to do with Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Africa? To name a few?
    So the E.U. is absolved of any of the issues that, perhaps they were invested in, regarding the Arab Nations? What about the wars and conflicts?
    I am only, Just asking. No antagonizing intended.

  • @haruhisuzumiya6650
    @haruhisuzumiya6650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Europe is facing the horrors of war

  • @IvanIlev
    @IvanIlev 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Subsribed! Awesome videos man, keep it up.

  • @Vladimir_Zolotov
    @Vladimir_Zolotov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am Irish and i would to leave the EU in a heartbeat.

    • @jackjoyce1744
      @jackjoyce1744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

    • @jackjoyce1744
      @jackjoyce1744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Before Ireland was part of the European Union, they were just British satellite state or under British influence. Since joining, they have had almost €1 billion in investment alongside all the tax free exports to Europe.

    • @Vladimir_Zolotov
      @Vladimir_Zolotov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jackjoyce1744 ask a fisherman why and they will have no problem explaining why and that is only one reason.

    • @jackjoyce1744
      @jackjoyce1744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Vladimir_Zolotov is it because of all the other members fishing in Irish waters depleting the stocks? I’m from the UK and that was one of the main reasons we voted to leave

  • @aminozuur
    @aminozuur 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I really liked the metaphor you brought up about your uncle. #RIP

  • @thedoctor3029
    @thedoctor3029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Von der Leyen, give this man a bag of money. You owe him

  • @Steventrafford
    @Steventrafford 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just stumbled of your content. Great stuff. Thank you sir 🤘. I’ve shared some of your EU videos. I’m pro EU just for the 70 years of peace it’s given us.

    • @sotch2271
      @sotch2271 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So i guess you are for nuclear weapon for the last 80 year of peace between great power it gave to us

    • @Steventrafford
      @Steventrafford 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sotch2271 if you think nuclear proliferation being the biggest contributor to peace in the EU then your grossly misinformed

  • @richard343s
    @richard343s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The EU is moving in the direction of federalism and a lot of people don't want that and also the Euro was a mistake.

  • @simonhopkins3867
    @simonhopkins3867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But now it wants an army or control over army's. And people like Verhofstadt go around talking about supper powers.

  • @harryflashman8996
    @harryflashman8996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like some of your other videos but this was slightly unhinged

  • @Militaria_Collector
    @Militaria_Collector 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You didn’t explain anything……you gave lots of “feels”
    Good job bro.

    • @xavierorriss921
      @xavierorriss921 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      its a part 1? Thats like reading the introduction to a book and being upset you dont know the ending yet

  • @imperator3515
    @imperator3515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think you have a serious problem with cognitive bias, just because the EU started, kinda around the time doesn't at all mean that it was the EU causing the peace, Europe was still at war after WW2, there was just no fighting.
    But why does war begin? Well if course for no reason right? Well no, it started because the allies thought it better that they fight German aggression rather than appease it, the tragedy of WW2 in Europe is really the tragedy of German aggression.

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Every part of the world which starts economic integration with its neighbours sees an end to war because war is more difficult and more expensive.
      The EU is just one example of this.

    • @imperator3515
      @imperator3515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoryScope The USA and the US civil war, heavily integrated economy yet war because they disagreed, disagreement of perspective is what make wars begin.

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a civil war, not a regular, though. The and similar organisations don't seem to help to prevent civil wars.

    • @sionsmedia8249
      @sionsmedia8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@HistoryScope So do you accept that civil war can and will with time probably happen with the EU, althought it probably won't look like a civil war, because it will probably be divided down cultural lines again.

    • @Dr_Callidus_Corvus
      @Dr_Callidus_Corvus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoryScope then free trade treaties are sufficient, rather than whole political federalism.

  • @creestee08
    @creestee08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so whats the purpose of eu again??????

    • @sotch2271
      @sotch2271 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      German money

  • @jobliar937
    @jobliar937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I live on the moon so how is this relevant to me?

    • @JakeJustIs
      @JakeJustIs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Yorkshire Lad Yep. The EU might come and tell you how to govern the personal lives of your citizens in exchange for access to a protectionist economic mafia.

  • @mw123lover
    @mw123lover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Want to belive this but rhe eu feels so corrupt

    • @MajorMlgNoob
      @MajorMlgNoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you say that?

    • @mw123lover
      @mw123lover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MajorMlgNoob becus its proven that some nations it the EU was not ready to join becus of crime poverty or corruption but they joined anyway and the worst part is the eu is supposed to protect europe but what did the EU do when russia fuking invaded ukraina nothing and they wanted to join to become free from russia grip many nations have also been taking money from the US and china to keep us seperated

    • @MajorMlgNoob
      @MajorMlgNoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mw123lover Ukraine wasn't in the EU tho and they couldn't afford starting a War with Russia as they're a Nuclear power and the European Military isn't a unified force under European leadership anyway they're mostly part of NATO under US leadership who is also a Nuclear Power

    • @MajorMlgNoob
      @MajorMlgNoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mw123lover as for allowing nations to join before they're ready that might be true but they likely let them in to weaken Russian influence in the Region

    • @mw123lover
      @mw123lover 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MajorMlgNoob but what about the ukrain they rebeld against their own goverment becus they want democratic goverment and to join the EU and the EU did nothing and if nations join the EU FULLY before they are ready they will bring their problems into the EU look at what greece did almoste colapsed the economy of the EU i love the idea of the EU but its so corrupt as for stopping russias influence why not make a pre joining state where they are under our protection

  • @GhostlyJorg
    @GhostlyJorg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    good video, feared the worse. subscribed

  • @PhillyPhanVinny
    @PhillyPhanVinny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It is not the EU that has led to the most peaceful period in human history. The reason we are living in the most peaceful period in human history is because of the USA military power/spending, NATO and nuclear weapons. If any of those 3 things are taken out of the picture humans go back to having as many wars as we did before the end of WW2. The EU was only formed in 1993 so saying it is the main cause for peace is just not true. The USA, NATO and nukes are by far much more impactful on the peace we have had since WW2.

    • @PhillyPhanVinny
      @PhillyPhanVinny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Mirogod The Middle East has been a mess (destabilized) for centuries now way before the US was forced to get involved there.
      People migrating to Europe from the Middle East is a issue for the EU to solve. They don't have to let them in if they don't want to.
      Please explain how the USA is "the most vile imperialistic country on the planet" and then also share what country you are from (it looks like France by your avatar?)

    • @patrickivthrowaway7266
      @patrickivthrowaway7266 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mirogod That is horribly ignorant. How is the U.S imperialist anymore? The U.S is at war in The middle East because of Terrorism. Without the U.S communism would take control. The U.S isn't not even close to the worst country in earth. Don't be an idiot.

    • @patrickivthrowaway7266
      @patrickivthrowaway7266 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mirogod Terrorism originates from all the countries we are currently invading.

    • @patrickivthrowaway7266
      @patrickivthrowaway7266 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mirogod ISIS was not founded by us. I'd like to see some actual proof of this.

    • @j.b.2263
      @j.b.2263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickivthrowaway7266
      Of course they where, not by that name but what they used to be against the ussr in Afghanistan, but it backfired.

  • @decades1912
    @decades1912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's evident you take inspiration from Extra Credits, I hope you keep up the good work

  • @MegaWunna
    @MegaWunna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The EU gives peace, regulations and trade

    • @Robert-tl2vg
      @Robert-tl2vg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Without a doubt the EU is the biggest mess of an organisation on the Earth.

    • @niceone550
      @niceone550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, it doesn't give peace. This is nonsense. We have lived in peace without the EU before

    • @Natogoon
      @Natogoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@niceone550 Yeah sure those few decades right before the formation of the EU were soooo peaceful….

    • @niceone550
      @niceone550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Natogoon We lived for almost a hundred years of peace after the napoleonic wars

    • @xtremescript
      @xtremescript 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@niceone550 Yeah, no. Ottomans were knocking on the door then. Also my country was under Ottoman rule.

  • @Upxl
    @Upxl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like this guy.

  • @diogogr98
    @diogogr98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job on the explain but the first 2 minutes are just fill up, you have 2 minutes of nothing in your video, almost half of it is nothing, is like when you are answering a question you don't know in a test and you start with bullshit. Again good explanation man just a heads up about that

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A heads up to a 4 year old video? Why? :)

    • @diogogr98
      @diogogr98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just saw it now xD so just trying to help on future videos ;)

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah okay. Thanks. I'm no longer putting stuff like that in my videos :D

    • @sionsmedia8249
      @sionsmedia8249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@HistoryScope Why are you replying to a comment on a 4 year old video?
      Are you a little insecure?

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because I was curious.that's why people ask questions: or of curiosity

  • @daanwillemsen223
    @daanwillemsen223 7 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I don't care what others think, but I think that the EU is awesome!

    • @UrskogTrolle
      @UrskogTrolle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree 100%!

    • @christiantheone8952
      @christiantheone8952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shut yourself!

    • @UrskogTrolle
      @UrskogTrolle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @anonymusopina1 Isn't that sort of a good thing to form your own opinion rather than just finding out what other people think and form your opinion based on that?
      I'm pro-EU and I have a number of reasons, but what other people think isn't really relevant here.

    • @abrahamwilberforce9824
      @abrahamwilberforce9824 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well the EU as an Institution is quite shitty, but the idea is quite nice.

    • @agamingghost3398
      @agamingghost3398 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree

  • @sionsmedia8249
    @sionsmedia8249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let's look at some wars which have happened while the EU existed:
    The collapse of Yugoslavia; right next to many EU states, the EU did nothing, and the US through NATO and some UN peackeepers was what actually brought peace there.
    The First Lybian civil war; which did heavily effect many EU countries through terrorist attacks, and the EU again did nothing, and the US through NATO was the main ones.
    The war in Donbas, well the EU has actually imposed some sanctions on Russia, but the war is still continuing.
    Well those wars and conflicts weren't really in the EU, they were just on the edge (although they did effect the EU).
    Well what about the Troubles? It wasn't a full war but it was very deadly, and again it started (in 1968) when the UK and Ireland were not in the EU, but the UK and Ireland both joined in 1973, well they joined the EEC not the full EU. Then in 1993 they both joined the full EU, but, The Troubles didn't end until 1998, without EU involvement.
    So what does this really show. It shows that the most the EU actually does is extend peace, it does not actually end conflict or wars, NATO as an actual millitary alliance, mainly backed by the US is much more influencial in ending wars, and since Europe has been united under a NATO millitary alliance, notably without Ireland in it, NATO seems to be the actual reason for peace.

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of those were part of the EU. The EU isn't about protecting non members

    • @sionsmedia8249
      @sionsmedia8249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HistoryScope The EU has a foreign affairs council, so I think you should do at least something when they are literally on the borders of the EU. Also the Troubles was inside the EU, and the EU did nothing to help.

  • @aldocolamartino2991
    @aldocolamartino2991 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Well done. Let's spread the word!

  • @jager0724
    @jager0724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Uhm, no we don't. We don't need a European Union, we need countries to chill tf out!

  • @SuperSnow18
    @SuperSnow18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video

  • @sethheristal9561
    @sethheristal9561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, i like your stuff and videos. But. To say that europe is about peace and it actually brought peace... is to oversimplify and propaganda to such a degree that it's impossible to accept. While THEORETICALLY the EU is in fact a plan to make war impossible by integrating our economies... in practice war was impossible anyway, because guess what? Cold War. Just look at the dates: cold war ends, jugoslavia war starts. With EU members in NATO sponsorship. And EU was only possible because of Cold War. Now, just some years after Cold War, USA the last hyperpower has long lost its grasp and unificating factor; and EU is falling apart.
    Now, a new balance between 2 superpowers USA and China is pratically a reality; with Russia, India, and Brazil as relevant players. In this scenary, and looking at Europe's dire state, you realize we need unity more than ever. NOW, you realize, we can and should and have to be united, or perish.
    But you, like many others, still just squawk the old eu mantra and propaganda. Lies, hypocritical lies, and more blatant lies. Peace was there in Europe in big periods even before EU, which is an imperialist bloc. You pro-EU europeans need to understand it. After EU is, if not destroyed, at least deconstructed and renewed in a complete and radical manner, and this kind of propaganda stops, maybe we can rebuild. For our peace. And for our survival.

  • @2013_Shox
    @2013_Shox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The pipe dream of peace is not enough for me to look away from democracy and
    sovereignty. No taxation without representation still holds true. I also think if you don't trust your own government, why make a larger one that is even harder to hold accountable.

  • @swarrior67
    @swarrior67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Well technically Hungary was in war with the Soviet Union AFTER the Second World War, but Russia isn't part of EU, so it is beside the point. I just wanted to say this little show of data.

    • @tamaurice6961
      @tamaurice6961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hungary was not Member of the EU, in his Commie Time.

    • @Adrian-rb4qp
      @Adrian-rb4qp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Swarrior 67 Yugoslavia was also at war with itself, but it wasn’t in the EU so It doesn’t really count

    • @sionsmedia8249
      @sionsmedia8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the Troubles was kind of like a war, and both of the UK, and Ireland were in the EU.

  • @stevenleslie8557
    @stevenleslie8557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NATO and democracy not the EU that has kept Europe together. EU should respect the social culture of each of its members not create a one size fits all utopia.

    • @HistoryScope
      @HistoryScope  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The EU had no influence on the cultures of the member countries... What you're complaining about doesn't exist

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We all live on a planet, we will not kill each other because our politicians think it just

  • @danielethell2951
    @danielethell2951 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’m anti-Brexit and always have been. I think the EU great idea but it still has it’s problems. Really enjoy these videos

  • @gianni7415
    @gianni7415 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do we need it. No we don't need it.
    Are we beter off doing everything alone. No we are not. The EU is not perfect but as group we are stronger then alone

  • @sionsmedia8249
    @sionsmedia8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the EU has done anything to end war in Europe it is not by economically intergrating those countries; surprise, trade happened before the EU, and before WW1&2. It has brought peace by destroying those countries, not fully that's why there are still movments against the EU, but it has done a lot. The best example is in Germany, where they are not allowed to sign 2/3 of their natonal anthem anymore.
    This also makes movments like Scotish independence very ironic since they want to join the EU which would be just giving their independence up again.

  • @rvnx1834
    @rvnx1834 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i'm against the EU's laws

    • @Alpha-gk6hd
      @Alpha-gk6hd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which ones

    • @tardvandecluntproductions1278
      @tardvandecluntproductions1278 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      except you probably like a lot of things that slowly have changed in your life, not knowing that is thanks to EU laws

    • @Alpha-gk6hd
      @Alpha-gk6hd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tard van de clunt productions
      Like warranties for some electronics reaching 2 years and when you buy goods from other eu countries you can easily send it back. Visa free, etc. theres issues but there are also beneficial laws

    • @Adrian-rb4qp
      @Adrian-rb4qp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      RvNx you cant possibly be agains all of its laws.