Here in France, supporters of Frexit like François Asselineau greatly failed to convince anyone after brexit. In fact, even Marine Lepen, that before that point was against staying in the eu at all, changed her mind and only proposed reforms. The disaster in the UK has been a warning for us all, not an encouragement
@@gnrseanra9070 You are forgetting the fact that britian was one of the most severely impacted coutnires by covid in terms of gdp. That's why the highest growth in just 2021 does not say much - it's simply recovery of basic functions.
I admit, as much as I regretted to see the UK leave the EU… I do enjoy the fact, that UK cannot blame the EU any more for all the things that are going so wrong in the UK right now.
I lived in the UK for a couple of years (before Brexit) and it always baffled me, how British politicians managed to falsely blame Brussels for failures in domestic policies, without being called out for the bullshit. British people just love to be lied to.
Thing's started going wrong in the UK long before brexit was even mentioned and yes I agree with you the UK government can not blame the European Union anymore and that is why I voted leave. I don't have a problem with Europe as we are all European the main man that caused this is Tony Blair the beginning of the end. 👍
@@mrpaulhutchison249 That's a very weird way of reasoning: Voting for damaging the future of the country for generations because you want to force the government to take responsibility for the damage it is causing. This is one of these cases, when the cure is worse than any disease. It seems to me that voting for a different government would have been more effective. Also, campaigning for PR, to get rid of the undemocratic first-passes-the-post system, would have been a better project. Well. I guess, it is impossible to understand Leave voters applying only rational criteria.
@@mina_en_suiza it sounds nut's but let's go each other party is no better they get in power and it's like an avalanche going back on anything they said and now they have no back drop. Parts of the UK want to leave but they are just as liable for the mess. Scotland pushed for a referendum and got it and so Cameron had no choice he was backed into a corner after that so brexit happened no test vote just brexit. England doesn't even have a first minister like the other members you understand what I mean the prime minister does not represent England nor does the mayor of London but then again what if the vote was rigged from the start just to break up the UK look at how much money the people in government have made
@@mina_en_suizaThey are in dire need of discussing whether their method of electing cabinet ministers and members of parliament is good enough, or whether it needs to be refined. They have Ireland just in their neighborhood. The same language, but 100 years of a different democratic tradition. _Campaigning for PR, to get rid of the undemocratic first pass the post-system,_ would certainly have been the better project, yes! But neither Labour nor Tories had any inclinations in that direction. Blair's first government had had the abolition of FPTP in its manifesto. A committee was appointed. But no-one seemed really happy with the proposal from that committee. So the matter was buried. It was buried so deep, that when Cameron's coalition government arranged an advisory referendum on a system similar to Labour's own proposal in its last manifesto, Labour mostly looked on from the side line.
In Italy we've just elected the most Euroscaptic administration since the EU has been a thing, and even this Administration has stated the they no longer wish to leave the E.U. just restructure it. Brexit has been a boon for European Unity
If the EU had been willing to restructure in 2016 then the UK public would have voted to stay. It's a shame that it took the UK leaving for the EU to get its arse in gear to use a UK colloquialism. The big issue seemed to be that nobody wanted to reopen the EU question in their own countries at the time and so offered David Cameron crumbs.
I feel like it's Brexit AND the war. We realize now that with such close proximity to Russia and its demented politicians we can no longer take international safety for granted. Even in Europe, even in the 21st century.
@@radman8321 not at all. UK used to be the most privileged EU member by far, in terms of rebates and opt outs, and Cameron used the threat of a Brexit referendum to extort even more privileges at the expense of other member states. Yes, now the EU is changing, but in the opposite direction: more integration, mutualized debt, military coordination, measures against tax evasion and money laundering: everything that Brexiteers stand against. And we can do this precisely because UK can no longer veto our decisions. Thanks Farage!
@@paologat > now the EU is changing, but in the opposite direction: more integration, mutualized debt, military coordination None of those are good things. I don't want "mutualized debt", thank you very much, I want to pay ONLY MY OWN DEBTS! And sure as heck I don't want ANY sort of military coordination where Germany plays an active role. NATO works just fine, thank you very much. "More integration"... this is good why exactly? Germany in 1930s was very "integrated", everyone was forced to agree on most aspects of their lives. Not a good thing!
In Sweden even our ultra right wing party has dropped their "leave EU" goal after Brexit. Wanting to leave EU after Brexit would be like watching someone shooting them self in the foot and thinking "I would like to do that too". Thank you UK for taking one for the team and showing the stupidity of leaving!
The alternative for these parties around Europe seems to be stalling EU decisions. The EU has a lot of mechanisms where a single national parliament or government can veto decisions. Usually the EU just makes an exception and moves on, but you can't do that when they demand ever more flagrant exceptions.
People have been watching the Brexit saga since the beginning and I had never learned so much about the EU than when seeing the UK, weeks after weeks realizing what they had lost and for what. Nothing or worse.
Same. The EU, directly or through its member states, should promote recurring campaigns to educate and inform its citizens about the EU institutions, their purpose, their role, how they work and so on. Often it’s ignorance that generates mistrust: informed citizens can have a better appreciation for the work the EU does and can have a reasoned say on it at elections time. They say that the lies of the leave campaign about the EU found fertile ground in a largely ignorant British public, in fact the day after the referendum “what is the EU?” was at the top of Google searches.
The Irony of brexit is that of all of the constituent member states britain was probably the best positioned geographically and economically to sever ties... and it was still an unmitigated disaster because of how integrated their entire economy was into the greate european system; They lost access to labor pools for fishing and farming, courier and freight services that had relied on expediancy were now being more and more delayed by border crossings, the whole situation has caused fresh turmoil in ireland (and I wouldn't put it past scotland to do a fresh round of independance discusssion). Now imagine someone like the Netherlands or Portugal or Belgium tried to pull out.
It didn't come as a shock to remainers and the people who voted for brexit simply decided that they didn't want any of those things because they were EU things. What was funny was watching brexiteers realising that leaving the EU meant that they couldn't automatically go and live and work in France or Spain.... they thought that every right they had before Brexit had been given to them by God for being British. Astonishing people. And they still won't accept that they made a gigantic mistake.
@@occamraiser A bunch of them thought that they were going to somehow be able to negotiate their way to a better deal as an independant state which just... no? Like, Britain doesn't really have access to any particularly unique or interesting resources that the rest of Europe can't get from member states.
@@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 Actually, I think Austria would be the one in the best position. Although it would be a pain, the strategic location on the North South axis would at least give it some leverage. Whereas the UK has none, but a giant headache in the case of NI.
It's not just that EU citizens came to appreciate much more what they had, it's also seeing how much better the EU operates and how much more can be achieved without the UK acting as a constant spoiler. I have changed my view and come to agree with De Gaulle that the UK never really shared the values of the EU project, but saw it only in mercantile terms.
of course, have you seen who the UK had as EU representative aka Kermit , Nigel Farage known EU hater and racist .... it would be like appointing a vegan to work in meat production ... So how could any of it turn possibly good ...
Sadly, I think you're right. Although I totally disagree with the idea of a federal Europe, there is a case to be made for it. Unfortunately, Pro-Eu politicians in Britain pretended that a federal Europe was never on the cards, even though every reform instituted by the EU made that a step closer. People in the UK thought we were being "Bounced"into a federal Europe, without our consent, which is why we decided to leave.
@@stephenbarden6121 I do, to some degree, feel pity for you, because the information hadn't been particularly good. The 72% who voted had been badly prepared by mass media. They weren't given the means to make an informed choice. But, because no-one of you ever saw any value in the European Union, except for in mercantile terms, I am happy you advised your parliamentarians to leave. @L' Ours is right! We can, however, improve our relations. Postfact bile is hardly advantageous for anyone of us.
@@jmolofsson Hi Johan, it's nice to hear from you. Certainly I have no feelings of dislike or bile towards our European friends; I do agree that British politicians have been used to blaming the EU for all of our problems, which of course absolves them of responsibility for their poor decisions. I also agree with you that there is a nasty streak in some UK voters, who feel that they are in some way superior to other nations. I don't have any time or liking for these views; for me, it's all about democracy. I feel that government is remote and distanced enough from ordinary voters, and that the EU makes that remoteness and distance even greater. I genuinely think that the EU devalues the vote, something that is so important, especially for those who are powerless in society. My best wishes to you, Stephen Barden
@@stephenbarden6121 People did not think that!!! people were sold and lied to into thinking that by overwhelming far-right media such as Sun with bullshit such as EU control banana shapes and that EU is forcing laws on us ...when the actual truth any educated person knows is that UK was a major player responsible in creating these EU laws we hate so much apparently, these laws were not forced on us, every single law was democratically voted and had to be passed at home first ... but all you have to do is scream "let's take control back" to misinformed peasants even though as Keir said means nothing and total ambiguous crap, same as Brexit means Brexit ... the marching stupids with pitchfork would still jump onto that band Wagon ! and when asked which particular EU law they do not like ... THEY COULD NOT NAME A SINGLE ONE!
"Brexit is the first brick that has been knocked out of the wall" But now that brick is weaker and alone, while all the other bricks are stronger together After 7 years no other brick has fallen out.
It reminded everyone what the EU is for and how often benefits outweigh the losses. Better to be a shared bloc and be a meaningful player to USA and China rather than be many tiny economic colonies of both.
@purposesquash Yet we see ripples of the EU's economic regulations across the world. Plenty of AGD tech is more efficient now than before, thanks to the EU regulating them. The companies making them decided it wasn't worth making different versions for different markets and now everyone else gets these improved variants too.
@purposesquash The Euro is the second most used currency. The EU still dominates science in everything outside of data science. And the economy is massive. It absolutely is a meaningful player. The Brussels effect alone shows that the EU can be considered a superpower.
@@epicmonkeydrunk plus that only counts for those who voted, and now people like me who were too young to vote are now being thrust into adulthood in the middle of an economically collapsing mess
We in the EU cannot thank the Brexiteers enough though. Thank you, guys! I don't take the European Union for granted anymore. I enjoy the freedom of movement over 4.900.000km² (that's even bigger than India!) and the advantages of the Single Market, the Euro and free-roaming (even in the UK) to only name a few. Love from Belgium, EU.
@@f.g.5967 the accomplishments of the EU are really amazing and a lot of europeans seriously underestimate them, which is a pity. Europe made an incredible journey the last 75 years.
@Louis-Phillipe: Agree, 100% !!! Regards from Copenhagen, Denmark - where I live, and from Cologne, Germany, where I grew up, and from Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium, where we often went for races (and the best fries!) and from Canazei, Italy, where my family goes for skiing in winter, and from Sweden, where we love to go in summer, and from Domburg, Holland, where I used to go on vacation as a kid, and from Sussex, UK (where I studied, when the UK was still in the EU - poor buggers....) and from Chania, Crete, Greece, where we go in autumn to catch some more sun before dark winter starts ... ... and from God knows where my own kids will study, once they have finished their Eurotravels! Despite all its shortcomings - the EU is a modern miracle, considering that we were at each others throat for centuries - and not too long ago. Let´s celebrate our diversity and enjoy unity!
It's comedy gold when ex-employees yell "This entire place will collapse after I'm gone!" only for the place to, in fact, get better after they're gone. Same situation with Brittan. You're the problem, babe.
The EU wasn't exactly a good manager either though, fish and chip shops were selling more norway caught fish than UK fisheries because of EU laws restricting UK's fisheries. If the EU had done its due diligence in accomodating the UK's culture and needs this never would have happened, but as we see from this comment section: All that the EU had to offer was sour distain for Britain. It was never about partnership, it was about dominance and a feeling of superiority to other human beings.
@@sharknado623 You comment is an arguement strategy known as deflection. "something you do or say in order to avoid something such as criticism, blame, or a question being directed at you"
@@ranger_savage8406 ah yea, it's the EU that didn't do their job. Or was it the UK that constantly said no like an angry toddler? I don't think you realize this but the UK due to being so early in the EU had a lot of power and advantages that later countries didn't have.
Here in Italy almost no one speaks against the EU anymore on the political stage and many anti-EU commion people are now pro, seeing what happened in the UK.
@@maraboo72 Exactly like Salvini, Le Pen, Jonhson they all knew leaving Eu would have been a disaster for common people and economy AT LEAST for 5 to 10 years , during past elections they said they wanted to leave Eu o euro, because they wanted the votes of eurosceptic (especially here in Italy ) plus they were not in charge, they had around 5% - 10% of the votes and is far easier to promise things when you already know you're gonna lose elections, since you have no responsability after the vote. After Brexit since all the risks and challanges of leaving are common knowledge they have changed their proposes, and talk about reforming the eu institutions from whithin. I repeat again that of course THEY KNEW leaving was stupid, all of theme, but they were hunting votes. The difference beetween the U.K and the other countries is that one man, a politician decided to gamble his own career, the future of its party and the future of its country in the 2016 referendum and he lost. You can be sure an eventual referendum in Italy to leave the Eu in 2016 would have been an giant victory for leavers, far more than 52-48, 60% easily and event today there are chances of a leave victory, around 51% as you can see in the videos, but none was so stupid to try.
@@maraboo72 She's very pro-Europe at the moment. The Lega Nord party in her government is another story but seems like she's keeping them on a tight leash for now.
France left NATO in 1966 and only rejoined in 2009 a full decade after Thatcher, Reagan & Pope John Paul II had faced down the Soviet threat. I wouldn' trust France an inch (2.54 cm to some). No-one ever demanded that France pay to leave or to rejoin *that* club, which is of far more relevance than Eeh-You. Funny that topic is never mentioned.
@@cobbler9113 no France, Italy and Germany are not in anywhere near as bad a state as the UK. The UK are the only G7 economy that hasn't returned to prepandemic levels and the second worse performing country in the G20 (behind Russia). So nope no one else is in complete chaos like the UK - the sick man of Europe
UK used to get €9 billion every year from the EU for 'historical exceptionality'. Because they couldn't join like any other country, they needed to assert their perceived superiority over all of Europe.
@@pablom-f8762 At the end, the UK was the second largest net contributor to the EU budget. After various tax exemptions and so on, only Germany, the UK and Sweden were net contributors. Even the EU considered Holland as being part of an enormous international tax avoidance scheme.
As an American and an outsider, I am a big fan of the EU. A number of years ago, I dealt with a number of EU officials and agencies. I heard many of the complaints about Brussels and EU programs. Yet, I also saw officials from European countries relate effectively with officials from other countries with whom they had ancient rivalries and hostilities. Over the several years I worked with the EU, I saw continued progress toward making the EU and it’s member states achieve prosperity and stability. Of course, they have their problems, but my perception is that the UK made a big mistake in leaving the EU.
Why are you talking about ancient rivalries and hostilities? That’s not the issue. Brexit was a shot across the bow to make these pig heads wake up. And they kinda did. Anti immigration stance has hardened throughout the EU. Merkel was forced to step down. Even Sweden finally closed their borders and not a peep about it since. Politics changed.
@@inconnu4961 I have no intentions. I am happily out of it. I only have perceptions based on experiences from a number of years ago and from having been a mere tourist in Europe a number of times. I also think it’s good for you to be skeptical of anyone’s perceptions and views.
In the Netherlands there are still people who think leaving the EU is a good idea. These people still don't understand the dependency on trade our country has. The UK should be seen as a warning to other members. Together we are strong, alone we fall.
As a dutch I like EU for simply reasons easy travel and economic trade benefits so I do not have to spend ridiciously amount of money on importing goods like we have to do from UK or USA
2016: "A Brexit would start the end of the European Union". 2022: "A growing number of Brits are in favour of rejoining the EU". Edit: 1200 likes. Thank you guys
Let no one ever forget that Google's #1 search in the UK the day after the Brexit vote was "what is the EU". People who vote (or abstain) in ignorance rarely make good decisions.
After Brexit, the parties supporting the exit of my country from the eu or the eurozone disappeared. Even politicians and economists that heavily supported it, now literally try to convince us they never actually suggested it.
It takes a really big mistake for conservatives to admit they never suggested an idea. That means that they can no longer lie that it actually was a good idea.
Just like in 1950's Germany it was discovered that every single one of the millions of people who attended the pre-war Nuremberg Rallies died during the war so that no living German had ever been there.
Well, this is what happens when you whip up the racists and xenophobes with lie upon lie upon lie, blinding them and then driving them off a cliff. Couldn't have happened to a better bunch. The problem is that a whole nation was driven off a cliff with them. Now that the chickens have come home to roost, no one is willing to take the credit. Because these chickens have been a slow-rolling catastrophe for the British economy. Just like the Remainders had warned about.
Brexit was an American mistake, which further reduced American control over Europe. The EU should unite, strengthen its independence, and serve its own interests, not the United States. But the United States is destroying EU unity and supporting Germany's military development
As a non-European (Asian, to be more specific) who has been living in EU for last 11 years, I have to say that EU is one of the best things that EVER happened to humanity. It is not just a political and economical aliance, it is an aliance between different, nations, peoples and cultures. EU is the single most successful non-military aliance in the history of humanity. And many (e.g. US, Russia, China) would be happy to see it destroyed. We must not let that happen.
@@denysvlasenko1865 , US has more money, guns inside and military outside. US fail the social part of aliance (part where citizens come before corporations, where basic human rights are more important than profits). EU is definitely more successful and, tbh, there is even no debate about it.
@@denysvlasenko1865 as an American, you may be right but that was really lame to compare to this guy’s comment. The EU is a different kind of alliance, don’t discredit it
I loved the video, congratulations! I landed on this video after watching another one about how people in Britain were lied about the benefits of Brexit... This was indeed a huge lesson for the rest of the EU members. Together we are definitely stronger. Greetings from Spain!
Greetings from germany, yes we stay strong together. (In May opinion we should even become more conected in some specific areas. For example (even if it is no EU self project) we should think the system of Nato over and maybe think about one big army then having all this minor militarys. (Maybe with the option to still have one but also have the Nato))
We've seen how many problems Brexit caused to the UK. Less trade, border problems, harder tourism and so on. I can't recall a single benefit Brexit brought to them. Immigration didn't change and the economy slowed down. So, why would I want my country to leave the EU?
@@QuandaleDingle-ji2tj Did you see France last week? Does UK have more or less strikes than most European countries generally? It is only public sector and some dinosaur industries striking. UK real terms wages fell less than EU one's last year. Obviously that's an average so if for some was worse, so they striking, then for more than some was better.
They can send their illegal and unwanted immigrants to Africa now, I forgot the specific country name. They couldn't do that before brexit. I don't know if they should be happy with that policy but that's what they can now that they've left the EU. Maybe your country wants to do the same? Poland seems to want to get rid of its gay people still...
Brexit actually convinced people in the EU to stay and not to leave. So thank you Britain and Nigel F. demonstrating the disastrous effects of leaving the EU.
@@rwagenveldqmesnl Sorry mate, no disastrous effects to anyone, anywhere. You want it to be disastrous, because Britain dared to vote to leave. and if it is so "disastrous" why is it that over six million people, citizens of countries in the wonderful EU, applied to remain in the UK, deciding they would rather remain here.
@@daneelolivaw602 Because UK only became really disastrous some years after the Brexit referendum. This may only get worse. But I sincerely wish for your government to make Brexit work because the EU is doing so much better since England left. The rest of the UK I feel sorry for because Scotland and Northern Island voted remain.
The most important reason to stay in the EU is: peace and prosperity. Without the EU, the risk of war against one of us within the EU, increases tenfold. But also, we know how powerful the EU is as a trading block. Sorry my dear English and Welsh friends. We love you but you made a big mistake in 2016. 😢 With love form The Netherlands.❤
It is possible to be pro-EU while simultaneously acknowledging that the EU is flawed. For example, I frequently feel that the EU lacks teeth, particularly where Hungary is concerned. Orban is too frequently the fly in the ointment, the tools to punish him for it are not powerful enough, and he absolutely needs to be taught a lesson that he needs the EU more than it needs him. Brexit has made a powerful demonstration of this, I refer you back to the Financial Times video from a few months ago.
What would resolve all the problems would be to redesign the veto power. The vote should be democratic. If 5 vote yes and 1 no, then 1 should be forced to abide to the majority's decision. Simple as that, we are living in a democracy for a reason.
To be fair though, the Eastern European wannebe-autocrats have always been aware how much they need the EU, they never seriously peddled the idea of leaving the bloc, because EU membership is incredibly popular there. They are instead trying to make the most out of it by keeping the EU toothless regarding the rule of law issues. Orban for example is heavily dependent on EU subsidies, and he knows it. His argument has always been that he is entitled to these subsidies, and those subsidies have stabilized his regime, as many EU companies have invested in his country. So those countries are instead trying to change the EU, keep it economic instead of political.
@@user-ly1fk9kk9d Macron isn't democratic when he passes laws against 75% of the people, european democracy will maybe work in 100 years but for now the countries are too different
I dont think is that amazing until you compare it with the alternatives... As Churchill said, democracy is the worst form of goverment except all others
What's even more hilarious is that it's not the EU that's facing dissolution, but Britain itself. Imagine if Scotland/Northern Ireland/Wales gained independence and rejoined EU, leaving England on its own.
*Exactly! And the same arguments that the UK gave about wanting to leave the EU in order to be more independent, is the exact same argument other areas of Britain can use for wanting to leave the UK. The irony of it all is epic...!!!* 😂
It's quite simple, the EU is freed from a member who didn't believe in this project and therefore was a hinderance for progress. Now they left and suddenly the EU can perform and deliver.
Except the rest of the countries wanted out as well! how quickly people forget about Greece & the other weak links in the chain who are drawing on the savings of the German citizen and others who save, instead of spend wildly. The EU spends like money grows in the garden!
The EU was formed with support from th UK. The UK might have been more involved in the beginning apart from De Gaul and France being afraid the UK would dominate and ruin his new chance at Empire.
Funny then the EU expansion east was pushed by the UK. The single market was pushed by the UK too. The UK diligently put EU law into action while other countries did their best to ignore the bits they didn't like. Lots of EU countries hid behind the UK and let it take the heat when it came to stopping the EU doing things they didn't like. The UK did a lot to shape the EU. The UK also did a lot to keep the Americans engaged with Europe.
Frankly we were never interested in the European Project, especially from a political perspective. If anything it confirms in my view that we were an outlier and never should have joined in the first place. To be honest, if the EU offered a customs arrangement with the UK now, I suspect many would take it.
@Christopher Jacobs I think the main reason England tried to join the EU was to split it up. And when that strategy went south, the Englishmen pouted and left
@Christopher Jacobs Norway and Switzerland aren’t in the EU and have close relationships with it. Don’t see why we shouldn’t have something like that. Also, lol. Way to go with the Anglophobic generalisation.
The Dutch have always complained about their high net contributions to the EU per head, but always failed to see the effect of the "Rotterdam privilege", which means cashing in customs on energy imports into the EU. Without it, the Dutch contribution per head is lower than the German. Still, with the German taxpayer having paid more than 60% of net contributions in the history of the EU (at times this number was up to 80%), there is a broad consensus among German parties (excluding the far right) that Germany has been the main beneficiary of the EU, that the money was well spent overall. Also, German politician never really tried to blame Brussels for failures in domestic politics, as have British politicians since the times of Thatcher.
@@domingoftwWe are and we do. Every time me or my family go to a vacation it’s within EU. Sometimes we even drive across borders just to attend music festivals like Wacken or Roskilde. Unlike you americans, which I presume you are from the way you talk, we europeans actually visit other countries and celebrate their culture instead of vilifying them and treating them like enemy or competition. lol
Before brexit politicians could talk about endless hypothetical benefits, now that the uk is the proof of what you lose getting out of the EU people are much less receptive to calls for leaving. The UK wanted to be better of than the rest of the eu but they actually got what everyone was warning about, without the access to the single market many industries are struggling. I am italian and before brexit I used to buy freely from the uk for a considerable amount of my spending, everything from books to clothes etc. Now I still buy few thing but the cost and the waiting time are just to high, to find substitutes in the single market isn’t that difficult. Also it’s very hypocritical for the uk to decide to leave and then whine continuously to the eu for endless concessions, the customs problems, the Northern Ireland problem are all of the uk own making, it’s not up to the eu now to find a solution, you wanted brexit, you got it. Good riddance
As an Englishmen I can only apologise for the stupidity of my fellow countrymen. Politically England is the largest bloc in the United Kingdom. English people tend to read newspapers which support the Conservative Party. These are generally disengenuous. Having all the critical faculty of Russian peasants who happily partot what the Kremlin tells them many English continue to vote for the Conservative Party which likes to deflect from its own failings by blaming anyone else but especially the E.U. and trades unions. I apologise also for the outrageous rudeness of Nigel Farage the egocentric and conceited, jingoistic bag of wind who did so much to bring us to this malaise.
@@532bluepeter1 I appreciate the sentiment, is good to know that there are still few reasonable people in England, sadly those like you 7 years ago were overpowered by the people that were brainwashed into brexit. The ones I am more sorry about are your Northern Ireland who didn’t even voted for it but have now to face the consequences of brexit on the precarious equilibrium that exist in the island. The eu will of course do the interest of the Republic of Ireland (obviously) but it seams clear that the uk doesn’t really care for Northern Ireland. While brexit sucks for everyone (even for us in the eu who so the uk as part of our shared identity of Europeans) the people of NI are clearly the one who got the worst possible outcome.
@@lucal2067 Only England voted predominantly for Brexit. The out vote has boosted the Scottish independence campaign. Conservative Party little England behaviour in an attempt to protect the narrow vested interests of their wealthy financial backers is in danger of breaking the union of the United Kingdom. The rural English in their complacency are utterly ignorant if the peril.
It seems EU citizens are finally appreciating that being an EU member puts them politically and economically on the same level as other super powers. And this is something the wider world needs as well. We can't have the US or China being the only two options to back. The EU gives countries a third option.
It also offers a third model opposed to China's socialism and America's capitalism, a market economy that is regulated and ensures a minimum level of social welfare.
There is no greater facepalm moment than reading a response based on propaganda and political optics, please feel free to list these consequences that were not pre-empted when we left the EU ?
@@Blake-Urizen The bigger faceplant are those that shoot them down without bringing anything to support their position, that my friend is called delusion, at least I have the official stats, trade agreements and global data backing my arse up. I remind you that 95% of the so called scaremongering pushed by pro EU sources never happened and to be fair we expected most of the rest as part of leaving the EU.
Having the Brits leave was a bloody godsend. The obnoxious kid with anger issues who kept disrupting the lovely family dinner every chance he got finally left the table and went to his room.
@@ade2487 Idk mate, it's not missed since, EU budget is decided on quite quickly, the COVID recovery fund is a metric fckton larger than the Marshall plan was (inflation adjusted). Turns out leavers overestimated their value. How much did they say it cost you on a daily basis? Did the NHS get that sum since? xD
@@laksyrowpolysdg3153 you've no Idea what having them was like in terms of policies if you say that. They veto'd everything, they didn't like anything, they were against everything that could have helped further integration. In fact, Brexit boosted everything the EU stood for. The UK leaving even reduced anti-EU sentiments significantly. It has definitely been a net positive.
@@celticlofts As long as the Irish can receive money from other countries that have been duped into this circus the EU is, you think it's all right. Let's see what you think when the Irish are going to be net contributors due to the EU signing up other poor countries so industry can still get free labor while filling Ireland with Islamists to keep the population busy with problems , so no one starts thinking about what the EU really is. The EU is nothing but a sick pyramid game where only the few are winners!
As an American I want to show my appreciation, love and support for the European Union! Brexit really showed just how valuable this organization is despite its flaws and I wish the EU success in the coming years. Brexit will probably go down as one of the greatest mistakes in the 21st century and Nigel Farage will be viewed as a clown.
What do you actually know about the EU and the way it attempts to erode the concept of the nation state? Please don`t say there wouldn`t be vociferous opposition in the US if a bunch of commie loons in Brussels started tampering with your laws while selectively imposing their own in order to benefit the economies of France and Germany. How would you like it if your money was being used to build up countries like Ireland, Hungary, Malta and Cyprus only to be repaid by them setting up tax havens on your doorstep specifically designed to rip off your economy? How would you like it if Germany threw open its doors to a million refugees without consulting you first then used EU laws to force you to take some of them in? How would you like it if the EU turned a blind eye to France flagrantly violating its trade laws in order to bankrupt the US agriculture industry? These are but a few of the abuses that the UK had to tolerate for 50 years. I would rather be a slightly poorer master in my own house than a slightly richer servant in one owned by the French and Germans.
@@justonecornetto80 He probably knows as much as you do. Solid chance it's more as you voted for Brexit. You contributed something like 13-14 billion pounds a year into the EU? And your own economists estimate conservatively that by leaving you wiped out 4% GDP. Roughly 100 billion every year. Those maths simple enough for you?
@@seankavanagh7625 You`ll have a great deal of difficulty coming up with any evidence to support the theory that the UK has lost 4% of its GDP due to Brexit. Trade between the UK and EU has actually increased plus the dividend of of new trade deals is yet to be applied. Trying to conflate the economic damage caused by the pandemic and the Ukraine crisis with Brexit is nothing more than bitter remoaner`s sour grapes.
*I LIVE IN BULGARIA* in 2016 we had quite a strong nationalist sector here - they have TOTALLY SHUT UP - Brexit was BRILLIANT for the EU It has demonstrated the absolute economic suicide it is to leave the EU - *THANK YOU TO MY FELLOW BRITS FOR YOU MASSIVE SACRIFICE IN THE NAME OF EU SOLIDARITY*
I have noticed that politicians in my country have stopped constantly pointing fingers at the EU and Brussels as an excuse for their own bad management. I guess seeing what that rhetoric brought the UK was a good wake up call even for those greedy egoists.
@@gre894 Funny how people sitting in their living rooms KNOW more than a politician who sees all the papers and knows most of the issues! LOL But certainly every one here is the expert on things. Until you understand what Farage could see, you would be better off holding your criticism. i am sure he is a man smarter than many in here.
Brexit was the shock that I wanted to get them into gear and start caring again while over here our leaders are putting more holes in the ship as it sinks.
No is wrong is UK that always block this. Now that is out makes it better UK always caused issues in EU. Imagine if EU armies were closer integrated something that UK blocked. Will make Putin think twice if dare at all
As an outside (Canadian) observer to the Brexit drama, I had no dog in the fight and little understanding about the important issues at play but it always seemed to me that it made more sense to be inside "the big club" than outside of it. Sure, there will be problems; there always are, but a country the size and scale of the UK would be able to wield far more influence to change things from the inside than from the outside.
@@hughjass1044 basically it was supposed to be the uk version of the EU but with Anglophone countries Canada the uk Australia and New Zealand we weren't invited even though we are joined at the hip with all those countries in everything else
@@elvangulley3210 OK, so... what?... I'm somehow to blame for this supposed slight? Why the hell are you asking me about this? Was it me who excluded you?
@@benjicool2808 Because European politicians are not Europe centric but USA centric. Many European politicians "booed" France Macron when he emphasized Europe for European. Currently, it's NATO that's ruled over EU.
Yeah I have no clue how someone who talks about leaving the EU for a living messed up "Swexit," it's literally the same portmanteau as Brexit, first two letters then exit. But then I guess I was expecting too much from Mr. Farage.
Britain was like that bully who rallied everyone "to leave this joint!", but as soon as he stepped out of the door, he heard the door slam shut behind him, with no one with him. Only then did Britain realize, his bullying days are over!
Or like this drunk guy screaming: "hey guys, let's jump off this bridge, everyone follow me, banzaaaaaaaai". Then he crashed out and guess what? The others were not that drunk.
With the amount of drama they brought prior and during leaving, cant blame the people showing that kind of talk, even now UK is still blaming the EU for being 'punished'
Someone should send a fabulous gift basket to the leaders of Brexit. They were undoubtedly the best recruiters for the benefits of membership in the EU.
Yes. Europeans will prefer the devil they know for quite some time after the debacle of Brexit (whether it's a PR and diplomatic debacle or a full economic and Divided Kingdom debacle is relevant in the long term, but not in the short term, as much of the damage is done).
As a European i really have to thank the Eaton crowd for giving us the Telenovela that never stops. It is endlessly, if morbidly, entertaining, like a train crash that doesn't slow down.
Can you or one of the other TLDR channels do a video on how the Europe's drive against fiscal evasion played a role in Brexit? You haven't touched on that yet. The European Commission is a major force within the Financial Action Task Force while the UK, well... doesn't have much of an incentive in cracking down on its "financial services". As for Brexit, it was the best possible reminder to EU citizens that in spite of the Union's flaws, there is no rosy future that lies outside of it.
This sounds like conspiracy theory territory, like somebody or some group orchestrated Brexit so they could save some money on their tax submissions, but if it were true what a conspiracy it would be! (I don't believe it was the government at the time, the government wanted to remain members and argued that leaving would hurt the financial services sector)
I wouldn't call the 'American crisis' a crisis but rather an awakening which was further strengthed by Russia's invasion (actual crisis). Europe, the EU and/or NATO can't rely on the US completely. They're allies but we as Europeans need our own security and it feels like that in the last 1-2 years it's finally being taken into consideratoin.
The "American problem" wasn't about America, but basically all about tRump & his MAGAts...!!! Keep in mind that the American people NEVER elected him. He suffered huge losses to his opponents both times. The ONLY reason why he was able to claim the White House in 2016 was because of our crazy system called the Electoral College that literally took the prize from the winner & gave it to the loser...!!!
@@Jabberstax Just scale it down and that is your answer "How independent is any city in any country if people in that city can't have their own laws ... or " Why would people in Manchester want someone from London telling them what to do, or people in wales from England? how is it any different ??? the union between Wales and England is not any different from the one with EU ... it is a matter of perception of scale nothing else ... but if you think like a racist then no union will ever work ... plus to educate you EU has PR elected government unlike an archaic Britsh first pass the post that is not even democratic, with Prime minister appointing his cronies into positions rather than like EU having elected positions based on skills and experience... and for your information, we were not told by EU what to do .. Uk played a major part in creating EU laws and democratically voting on them... Every single Law had to be voted on and passed here at home first .... Brussel telling us what to do is a lie, and getting control back was a story sold to uneducated idiots and racists in order to get them to vote for Brexit
@@Jabberstax every country can make its own laws in Europe. Souvereignty is still the most important pillar in the EU. There are just coordinations which are agreed upon by all member states, so these are actually laws the EU governments make!
You wrong eu takes all power away from country parlament ,power to channge taxes, laws and also you need to remeber that people who are there are not elected its most corrupt communist organization that ever existed thats why a lot of countries want to leave.
In Sweden both the furthest right and the furthest left parties used to be in favor of leaving the EU. Following Brexit, they have both retracted from their previous positions.
Ive lived in France, Greece and the UK, anecdotal i know, but in my experiences most people have more interest and a better understanding of everyday politics and systems etc than they do in the UK. Obvs this is a primarily british channel thats focused on politics, so i assume the watchers of this channel perhaps dont fall into this category!!!
That's true. There's a very active EU cover organisation here and they do a gazzilion of project for all groups of people, from entertinment to serious debates. Ordinary Brit probably better understands British empire than EU, although it fell apart long ago.
you mean "about the EU", don't you? British news is heavily concentrated on former British and English-speaking colonies such as India, parts of Africa and the US, of course their average newsreaders are therefore less knowledgeable about European countries and the EU as a whole. However, most continental Europeans have the same problem regarding most other parts of the world. As a German, I start to get bored how every discussion in the news is about central Europe, about Ukraine and Russia, France, but it barely leaves the European continent, so I have to rely on the BBC news service to get to know more about the rest of the world.
Since Brexit, I started to study British politics while getting my journalism degree in college and wow I thought the American government was messy. One of my classmate's family is from Northern Ireland and fled to the US in the 90s when the IRA conflict was happening. She explained why she was scarred by the Northern Ireland issue and was sure there were going to be more conflicts in the near future. As she said, England never really solved it but just put it onto others.
North Ireland issue got "solved" only because both Republic of Ireland and UK joined the EU, so the reasons for the "Trubles" became largely irrelevant. There was no more borders between Republic of Ireland and UK. Both ware in the same market so no customs, checks, export red tape or anything. And the EU demanded equal treatment of minorities in your country as with majority. What brexiters dint want to understand, now with UK out of the customs union there has to be a border again between Republic of Ireland and the UK. If you put it on the island of Ireland between Reupblic of Ireland and North Ireland you restart The Troubles, and if you put it in the Irish Sea its unacceptable to the UK because it puts a border between parts of its own territory. In effect the Northern Ireland is being separated from the UK.
Uk is a shit show with no democracy we still have the roman first past the post-voting system ... meaning a party could win an election even if only 30% of the entire nation vote for that party ...then ministerial positions unlike in the EU are not elected ... Prime Minister literally appoints his buddies in all important positions based on a crony value and scratch my back favors rather than skills and experience ... Whole UK government is a corrupt shit show for Eaton graduates to play politics... yet British press would have you believe EU is corrupt where entire parliament is actually democratically elected with proportional representation!
If you show graphs like at 1:50 please also show the numbers on the x axis. It is important information if the leave pols were in the range on 5% and got down to 3% or if they were in the range of 90% and got down to 60%
Why? UK left, Leave won. There is no fresh veg or fruit in most supermarkets, the sea is full of crap, and the car, farming, fishing, small business industries are dying or dead. Leave won.
Not only has EU coordinated sanctions and military support for Ukraine relatively efficiently, it has done a top notch job navigating and lessening the impact of the food shortage and energy crisis resulting from Kremlin aggression. So there have been so many EU milestones that show the organisation as nimble and effective in this one rapidly developing chain of events.
In my opinion it was obvious that leaving the EU could have desasterious consequences. And thats why I am really suprised that so many Brits had been so narrow minded and did not anticipate these consequences. In some way for the EU itself I think it is a gain that we don´t have to negotiate any special treatment the British want to have.
There was a massive news warfare meaning a lot of misinformation has been spread around: similar to the US Presidential election corrupted by Cambridge analytica in 2014. So we should not look down on the Brits and tell them how stupid they are because in many ways they were victims themselves. But of course I am not in favor of supporting any UK government who was responsible for this mess in the first place because those people should have known, they had the time to research, so shame on them!
You are fooling yourself if you think they did not anticipate these conciquences. The englishmen knew that there would be economic damages, they knew their polititians would not carry out their wishes, and they still voted to make a point that they want freedom and do not consent to what is being forced uppon them. We should look up to them and follow in their footsteps.
Never underestimate the power of the UK right wing tabloid media. The Daily Mail and the Sun were the information sources of choice for these idiots. Farage was their poster boy. Unfortunately the right wing media dominate in the UK. They wanted Brexit and that's what they got.
What consequences? If you turn the TV off nothing has changed. Maybe can't get enough hospitality workers? For the current ones they got a demand linked pay rise.
Glad to see Europe is showing signs of moving towards harmonious existence, moving beyond centuries (actually millennium+) of squabble and violence. I hope EU project succeeds in uniting Europe, a feat that hasn't been achieved since CE 475.
What a joke! You are like those commies who blindly believed in USSR despite being economically and politically a non sense. Glad to see my French people being more and more euroskeptic.
EU is showing signs of splitting and squabbling during the Russo-Ukraine war and US - China economic war. EU project would fail in uniting Europe, it already lost Britain.
As a dual EU and US citizen I think a more self sufficient Europe will have an even better relationship with America. Probably half the American population have ancestral ties to one or more EU nation.
America wants to crush Europe which is why they are deindustialising Germany. That is what the inflation reduction act is for. There is even talk of a trade war amongst the Euro elites - which the Americans don't care about.
I want to stay close to Europe. I know the US isn't perfect, but I have just been so surprised how idiotic they have been and the xenophobia I see from Europeans online. It's clear many many of them despise us. The average American seems to be unaware of this, I think, and still thinks we are mostly friends. I think it's ridiculous how much they rely on us for their militaries and then Russia in energy. The US probably won't ever leave them in the dust. That would be very unpopular with us. However, they need to boost theirs. And it's so annoying how they decided to rely on a hostile nation, Russia, for energy. And now seeks to be fine doing it again with China. Be critical of the US. But being friends with China is not good. And also the but on the video where Europe is mad that America is trying to protect its industries. That's what politicians are voted in for. Americans voted for them to look after their interests. They are not here to care about the EU, nor are EU governments here to care about American companies. I know I've been negative. I want us to remain allies, but it seems further and further away every day.
@@baronvonjo1929 That's an interesting take, but certainly not one I feel as a European. I don't think there are many Europeans that despise America. There are some who despise the US government and there are definitely a lot who feel a sense of superiority given how much more our culture/governments seem to care for their people compared to America, but I don't think I've met anyone who actually despises Americans. As for relying on Russia for energy, that's mostly Germany and some of the border states and as someone with connections to 3 European countries none of which were particularly reliant on Russia, I'm annoyed at the German government for their part in putting Europe in this situation, they should have known better and they're holding Europe back at this moment in many ways. But both with our military and our reliance on Russia we're quickly moving in the right direction. As for China yeah it'd be nice to be less reliant on them but probably best to wait until after we're properly off Russia before we tackle that one and from what I've seen we're going in that direction just not as fast as the US maybe. Lastly yeah sure that might have been in part why the politicians got elected but it's still potentially damaging us and we have a right to dislike it as we are allies after all, and decisions like that will understandably have political consequences which may not be good for Americans so their leaders should also take that into account.
The thing I hate most about Brexit was the travelling and moving restrictions alone. I have friends in the UK I wish could move to an EU/EEA country and Brexit has made that much more difficult
Cheers from the Czech republic. I fully respect the decision of Brits to leave,you are masters of your faith. I just wish you could see how people lie to you and lies led you to leave. In my nation free will is the most important thing for us and if liars convince you, they steal your free will. Have the wisdom to hear us out, we prefer to have you as friends, and friends tell each other the truth, especially when it's ugly.
> In my nation free will is the most important thing Remember that "free will" when the next idiotic EU rule prohibits you from doing something. A recent small glimpse of this process for me was when single-use plastic cups suddenly disappeared in the shop I usually bought them, and when I asked the shop clerk she said that they were banned by an EU decision. (I assume our benevolent EU bureaucrats think they have to "save the planet" from evil citizens who can't be trusted to properly dispose of trash, and will throw it into the ocean instead. CZ having no oceans did not stop their thinking).
I think there was too much indecision about what that choice would be. In practice, there was 2-3 parallell Leave campaigns who all believed they were the one true Leave variant supported by the referendum. They kept pushing that discussion ahead through the referendum until time was up. Each single Leave variant could have worked out, but there was no clear conclusion on which one it should be.
We're still in NATO and that's becoming increasingly important, and we'll never leave that. I voted Remain in the EU and was sad to leave but it's done now. A Labour Government in London in 2025 will not rejoin the EU but will mend fences with it that have been stubbornly torn down by ultra-Brexiteers, which there was no reason to do. I look forward to renewed co-operation between the UK and EU short of actual membership (which would mean the UK promising to adopt the euro currency, which in my opinion IS a terrible idea, unlike the EU itself in general)
Half of us in the UK have always seen this, unfortunately our older demographics are blinded by xenophobia therefore voted leave. The younger generation in this country will ensure the UK EU relationship rebuilds into the future.
@@louisbeerreviews8964 yes you are, and you can't even make up your mind to be a single nation on the same f****g island! So I guess Brexit was to be expected.
I in India, dream of something like the EU where I can travel to some of the neighbouring countries(However, some of them are pretty annoying). The UK got carried away with it's isolationist narrative and is now in a horrible state with a cost of living crisis and many other problems. I feel the future is globalization and the EU is a good example of how it's a good model. No matter how hard UK tries to deny it, France, Spain and Ireland will always be your neighbours!!
India and Nepal are the only friendly countries in the sub continent with this possibility. I’d include Bhutan but they have shown themselves to be extremely xenophobic.
@@induction7895 Well even Indians are also very Xenophobic don't you think(their attitudes towards North East folks)? This stuff is there in the EU as well, just like everywhere in the world but economic benefits overshadow all these circumstances. I think we can include Sri Lanka in the mix as well. Relations have been improving with Bangladesh as well. Eventually if Pakistan starts becoming a little secular maybe they as well can join this setup.
@@DAG924 Many people in India are indeed quite racist, extremely racist even. In the current situation, it is difficult for a person of a certain community in India to travel to other parts of India itself. So EU-like situation seems far-fetched. But India as an actual democratic country has big internal dialogues and debates and it can be hoped that with time, India emerges as an actual big country, not just in size and population which it is now. Nepal and Sri Lanka are relatively easygoing countries but with their own issues. Bangladesh seems quite progressive too. I do not have much hope for Pakistan in the near to mid-term future.
We, in the other EU countries, have seen through GB's excellent example that the need to leave the EU is only an advantage for the financial sector and its need for less regulation. But GB has shown brilliantly that the benefits accrue only to speculators and exploiters and are fatal for the countries as such. The time is for better and not less cooperation if we in Europe do not want a society like the American one.
(..)"An advantage for the financial sector and its need for less regulation"(..) What a big true. The middle and lower clasess are whom really pay the consequenses. The bills. This was so clear for the rest of EU citizens.
The initial idea that brought together the core countries of 1951 was to share coal and steel (the key drivers to make a modern war machine) in order not to repeat once again the devastations of WW1 and WW2. The former enemies of countless wars (during 15 centuries since the fall of the Roman Empire) became friends.
@@marcobassini3576 I think the idea of coal and steel sharing was more because they were the foundation to rebuild Europe (housing, infrastructure, industry). Not to build a "war machine" I think the European were fed up by wars and realized they need to come together once and for all.
@@marcmarco5373 If you share the resources that could give you a competitive edge in modern warfare you are basically saying you are not willing to exploit that edge to make war (once again). For the first time in history the power of the armies in WW1 and WW2 was proportional to the industrial power behind them. And the industrial power at that time was mainly linked to the production of steel (the coal is needed to produce steel). Without steel you cannot produce rifles, guns, tanks, gunships, .....
Exactly the conclusion I’ve come to visiting the EU several times since Brexit, rather than making us stronger, we’ve made THEM stronger. Sad that so many people can only see the advantages of membership now we’ve left!
There was a party or organisation called Irexit in Dublin. They had candidates in last local elections and U Tube videos. They all gone very quiet now. They were as thick as 2 short planks as we say in Ireland.
Brits get confused between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, a lot of English people I meet actually believe the whole of Ireland is British, just typical English ignorance, we’re used to it..
@@paula5440 It's not typical at all. Everyone I know knows that north and south Ireland are different countries. It's quite typical for Irish people to think the whole island is one country though. I don't put that down to ignorance though, just wishful thinking.
A lot of Brits actually consider the people living in the Ulster colony as Irish much to the anger of the ultra right wing Religious bigots we know as the DUP, who throw their toys out of the pram when they don't have a majority to continue their hate campaigns.
If Portugal left the EU as some on the Left talked about and traded the Euro for the Escudo, our debt would explode. We were underdeveloped when we became a Republic, same durig the dictatorship, the Marshal plan was not enough to change this or even after the revolution, it was only after joining the EU that things started to change
@@jadawin10 tbf Ireland had to rise back up from over a century of English persecutions and bad treatment, still hasnt recovered from the Potato famine nowadays too which is just insane to start from so low and still rise back up
One of the reasons they voted to leave was because they were sick of seeing their money was being spent on third rate countries like Portugal so they could live life at a standard they don't deserve and can't afford themselves. Same for Romania, Bulgaria, Poland etc.
The UK was always some kind of an issue within the EU on many topics. Now the remaining members have more or less many interests in common. Decisions are easier to take now without the UK.
In addition, the EU is the only relevant institution that imposes sensible regulations on super-large companies, such as rules against hate and lies on the Internet or the charging cable issue. The way in which such resolutions are evaluated is also impressive. Commissions of the EU Parliament work on proposals, all EU states comment on them, as do experts with a great deal of know-how. And in the end, Parliament decides with members from 27 countries. It is an impressive example of supranational democracy.
@Kungs Zigfrīds yeah, and EU knows that too. They are forcing Apple to stop making their unique charger and make it same as Android chargers. If they don't then they are free to leave market. This change was universally loved because you can charge IPhone with more common Android chargers and not overpriced ones.
This makes me really sad. I think this was one of the biggest goals of the Eurosceptics. They did not want to have to fight the EU who were protecting people's human rights. The average UK person has no idea of the terrible erosion of our personal freedoms we are going to suffer. It's already started as we can see by the Tories trying to bring in a ban on the right to strike.
From a German perspective. I love the EU and as stated in the video i see the benefits of sticking together for all of us. Even Germany as the biggest EU country by population and economy is relatively small population wise and also in actual size on an international scale. The only way for us europeans to stand up for ourselves is to stick together, understand eachothers individual struggles and preserve our own interests an values. Love from Germany to the EU 🇪🇺 ♥️
We are nothing without each other. We are safe and richer together. Just a few days ago I was on a dating app texting with somebody from Lithuania. We are both Europeans, 2 hours away from each other, living in separate countries. It's beautiful.
@@mikatu Which is besides of the economy in which it is also the biggest, the most relevant of those measures. I thought it was clear that I meant population wise, but I should have stated it initially. Size is only relevant for national resources but not particularly for its relevance on the international stage.
It could be that forming a European state simply isn't everyone's goal. There are probably many avid EU supporters who strongly back a brotherhood of European nations but are opposed to their melding into one state and ultimately wish to retain their sovereignties.
@@jyreklordinthrain7813 might as well have a confederation of EU states. With defence being one of the only policies the central government has authority over other states 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ no reason why that couldn’t work.
Here in France, supporters of Frexit like François Asselineau greatly failed to convince anyone after brexit. In fact, even Marine Lepen, that before that point was against staying in the eu at all, changed her mind and only proposed reforms. The disaster in the UK has been a warning for us all, not an encouragement
Thanks UK! They bit the bullet for us
@@falconeshield Was UK highest growth in G7 2021?
@@gnrseanra9070 You are forgetting the fact that britian was one of the most severely impacted coutnires by covid in terms of gdp. That's why the highest growth in just 2021 does not say much - it's simply recovery of basic functions.
@@falconeshield Yeah and to think that doing something as crazy and irrational like leaving without a plan is very french indeed....
@@gnrseanra9070 growth in the UK has not recovered stop trying to fool everyone we are in the mud
I admit, as much as I regretted to see the UK leave the EU… I do enjoy the fact, that UK cannot blame the EU any more for all the things that are going so wrong in the UK right now.
I lived in the UK for a couple of years (before Brexit) and it always baffled me, how British politicians managed to falsely blame Brussels for failures in domestic policies, without being called out for the bullshit. British people just love to be lied to.
Thing's started going wrong in the UK long before brexit was even mentioned and yes I agree with you the UK government can not blame the European Union anymore and that is why I voted leave. I don't have a problem with Europe as we are all European the main man that caused this is Tony Blair the beginning of the end. 👍
@@mrpaulhutchison249 That's a very weird way of reasoning: Voting for damaging the future of the country for generations because you want to force the government to take responsibility for the damage it is causing. This is one of these cases, when the cure is worse than any disease.
It seems to me that voting for a different government would have been more effective. Also, campaigning for PR, to get rid of the undemocratic first-passes-the-post system, would have been a better project.
Well. I guess, it is impossible to understand Leave voters applying only rational criteria.
@@mina_en_suiza it sounds nut's but let's go
each other party is no better they get in power and it's like an avalanche going back on anything they said and now they have no back drop. Parts of the UK want to leave but they are just as liable for the mess. Scotland pushed for a referendum and got it and so Cameron had no choice he was backed into a corner after that so brexit happened no test vote just brexit. England doesn't even have a first minister like the other members you understand what I mean the prime minister does not represent England nor does the mayor of London but then again what if the vote was rigged from the start just to break up the UK look at how much money the people in government have made
@@mina_en_suizaThey are in dire need of discussing whether their method of electing cabinet ministers and members of parliament is good enough, or whether it needs to be refined.
They have Ireland just in their neighborhood. The same language, but 100 years of a different democratic tradition. _Campaigning for PR, to get rid of the undemocratic first pass the post-system,_ would certainly have been the better project, yes!
But neither Labour nor Tories had any inclinations in that direction. Blair's first government had had the abolition of FPTP in its manifesto. A committee was appointed. But no-one seemed really happy with the proposal from that committee. So the matter was buried. It was buried so deep, that when Cameron's coalition government arranged an advisory referendum on a system similar to Labour's own proposal in its last manifesto, Labour mostly looked on from the side line.
In Italy we've just elected the most Euroscaptic administration since the EU has been a thing, and even this Administration has stated the they no longer wish to leave the E.U. just restructure it.
Brexit has been a boon for European Unity
If the EU had been willing to restructure in 2016 then the UK public would have voted to stay. It's a shame that it took the UK leaving for the EU to get its arse in gear to use a UK colloquialism. The big issue seemed to be that nobody wanted to reopen the EU question in their own countries at the time and so offered David Cameron crumbs.
I feel like it's Brexit AND the war. We realize now that with such close proximity to Russia and its demented politicians we can no longer take international safety for granted. Even in Europe, even in the 21st century.
Seria imposible pagar la deuda publica fuera del Euro. Cuanto valdria 1 Lira ?.
@@radman8321 not at all. UK used to be the most privileged EU member by far, in terms of rebates and opt outs, and Cameron used the threat of a Brexit referendum to extort even more privileges at the expense of other member states.
Yes, now the EU is changing, but in the opposite direction: more integration, mutualized debt, military coordination, measures against tax evasion and money laundering: everything that Brexiteers stand against.
And we can do this precisely because UK can no longer veto our decisions. Thanks Farage!
@@paologat > now the EU is changing, but in the opposite direction: more integration, mutualized debt, military coordination
None of those are good things.
I don't want "mutualized debt", thank you very much, I want to pay ONLY MY OWN DEBTS!
And sure as heck I don't want ANY sort of military coordination where Germany plays an active role. NATO works just fine, thank you very much.
"More integration"... this is good why exactly? Germany in 1930s was very "integrated", everyone was forced to agree on most aspects of their lives. Not a good thing!
The only good thing about The Czech Republic leaving the EU would be the name - Czechout
Czechit - hey, check it out:D
Too bad boomers and idiots are just calling it czexit. Czechout is beyond their language and cognitive capabilities.
What, we don't like Czechxit?
@@lc3225Why should be when there is such a good alternative...
@@ErtaiCZ Yeah Czechxit is horrible. I was making a sarcastic joke
In Sweden even our ultra right wing party has dropped their "leave EU" goal after Brexit. Wanting to leave EU after Brexit would be like watching someone shooting them self in the foot and thinking "I would like to do that too". Thank you UK for taking one for the team and showing the stupidity of leaving!
The alternative for these parties around Europe seems to be stalling EU decisions. The EU has a lot of mechanisms where a single national parliament or government can veto decisions. Usually the EU just makes an exception and moves on, but you can't do that when they demand ever more flagrant exceptions.
Sweden is full with immigrants weak government
@@topg4717 It's currently a conservative-liberal minority government.
@@SusCalvin ...and if really necessary, the minority government might ask for support from the Social Democrats instead of from the Other Party.
@@jmolofsson People are tossing around all sorts of recombinations of parties.
People have been watching the Brexit saga since the beginning and I had never learned so much about the EU than when seeing the UK, weeks after weeks realizing what they had lost and for what. Nothing or worse.
Same. The EU, directly or through its member states, should promote recurring campaigns to educate and inform its citizens about the EU institutions, their purpose, their role, how they work and so on. Often it’s ignorance that generates mistrust: informed citizens can have a better appreciation for the work the EU does and can have a reasoned say on it at elections time.
They say that the lies of the leave campaign about the EU found fertile ground in a largely ignorant British public, in fact the day after the referendum “what is the EU?” was at the top of Google searches.
The Irony of brexit is that of all of the constituent member states britain was probably the best positioned geographically and economically to sever ties... and it was still an unmitigated disaster because of how integrated their entire economy was into the greate european system; They lost access to labor pools for fishing and farming, courier and freight services that had relied on expediancy were now being more and more delayed by border crossings, the whole situation has caused fresh turmoil in ireland (and I wouldn't put it past scotland to do a fresh round of independance discusssion).
Now imagine someone like the Netherlands or Portugal or Belgium tried to pull out.
It didn't come as a shock to remainers and the people who voted for brexit simply decided that they didn't want any of those things because they were EU things.
What was funny was watching brexiteers realising that leaving the EU meant that they couldn't automatically go and live and work in France or Spain.... they thought that every right they had before Brexit had been given to them by God for being British. Astonishing people. And they still won't accept that they made a gigantic mistake.
@@occamraiser A bunch of them thought that they were going to somehow be able to negotiate their way to a better deal as an independant state which just... no? Like, Britain doesn't really have access to any particularly unique or interesting resources that the rest of Europe can't get from member states.
@@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 Actually, I think Austria would be the one in the best position. Although it would be a pain, the strategic location on the North South axis would at least give it some leverage. Whereas the UK has none, but a giant headache in the case of NI.
It's not just that EU citizens came to appreciate much more what they had, it's also seeing how much better the EU operates and how much more can be achieved without the UK acting as a constant spoiler. I have changed my view and come to agree with De Gaulle that the UK never really shared the values of the EU project, but saw it only in mercantile terms.
of course, have you seen who the UK had as EU representative aka Kermit , Nigel Farage known EU hater and racist .... it would be like appointing a vegan to work in meat production ... So how could any of it turn possibly good ...
Sadly, I think you're right. Although I totally disagree with the idea of a federal Europe, there is a case to be made for it. Unfortunately, Pro-Eu politicians in Britain pretended that a federal Europe was never on the cards, even though every reform instituted by the EU made that a step closer. People in the UK thought we were being "Bounced"into a federal Europe, without our consent, which is why we decided to leave.
@@stephenbarden6121 I do, to some degree, feel pity for you, because the information hadn't been particularly good. The 72% who voted had been badly prepared by mass media. They weren't given the means to make an informed choice.
But, because no-one of you ever saw any value in the European Union, except for in mercantile terms, I am happy you advised your parliamentarians to leave. @L' Ours is right!
We can, however, improve our relations. Postfact bile is hardly advantageous for anyone of us.
@@jmolofsson Hi Johan, it's nice to hear from you. Certainly I have no feelings of dislike or bile towards our European friends; I do agree that British politicians have been used to blaming the EU for all of our problems, which of course absolves them of responsibility for their poor decisions. I also agree with you that there is a nasty streak in some UK voters, who feel that they are in some way superior to other nations. I don't have any time or liking for these views; for me, it's all about democracy. I feel that government is remote and distanced enough from ordinary voters, and that the EU makes that remoteness and distance even greater. I genuinely think that the EU devalues the vote, something that is so important, especially for those who are powerless in society. My best wishes to you, Stephen Barden
@@stephenbarden6121 People did not think that!!! people were sold and lied to into thinking that by overwhelming far-right media such as Sun with bullshit such as EU control banana shapes and that EU is forcing laws on us ...when the actual truth any educated person knows is that UK was a major player responsible in creating these EU laws we hate so much apparently, these laws were not forced on us, every single law was democratically voted and had to be passed at home first ... but all you have to do is scream "let's take control back" to misinformed peasants even though as Keir said means nothing and total ambiguous crap, same as Brexit means Brexit ... the marching stupids with pitchfork would still jump onto that band Wagon ! and when asked which particular EU law they do not like ... THEY COULD NOT NAME A SINGLE ONE!
"Brexit is the first brick that has been knocked out of the wall" But now that brick is weaker and alone, while all the other bricks are stronger together
After 7 years no other brick has fallen out.
Other bricks are coming to replace the hole left by this old broken brick anyways
We now have a window that gives us a clear view.
Love the metaphors happening here
Brick is still lying on the pavement
The brick had questionable structural integrity. The Japanese one is more reliable.
It reminded everyone what the EU is for and how often benefits outweigh the losses. Better to be a shared bloc and be a meaningful player to USA and China rather than be many tiny economic colonies of both.
@purposesquash Yet we see ripples of the EU's economic regulations across the world. Plenty of AGD tech is more efficient now than before, thanks to the EU regulating them. The companies making them decided it wasn't worth making different versions for different markets and now everyone else gets these improved variants too.
@purposesquash China's belt and road initiative where they fund infrastructure in Europe for increased trade and transport would disagree with you.
@purposesquash The unified EU Economy dwarfs everyone.
@purposesquash The Euro is the second most used currency. The EU still dominates science in everything outside of data science. And the economy is massive. It absolutely is a meaningful player. The Brussels effect alone shows that the EU can be considered a superpower.
@purposesquash Just another Greece! They will suck funds out of healthy countries to support the weak ones.
I just hope the UK realizes some day that their issues had much more to do with their government than the EU
49% oh people of the UK already new that, sadly 51% didn't
Our elderly population is stubborn and prone to conspiracy but that won't stop us young folk.
@@epicmonkeydrunk plus that only counts for those who voted, and now people like me who were too young to vote are now being thrust into adulthood in the middle of an economically collapsing mess
@@juliuskresnik198 How is the growth and youth unemployment across the EU?
Their free two year long clownshow 🤡 really helped keep the EU stronger lmao
We in the EU cannot thank the Brexiteers enough though. Thank you, guys! I don't take the European Union for granted anymore. I enjoy the freedom of movement over 4.900.000km² (that's even bigger than India!) and the advantages of the Single Market, the Euro and free-roaming (even in the UK) to only name a few.
Love from Belgium, EU.
, EU is not that amazing and it needs improving. But yeah it is better than nothing.
@@f.g.5967 the accomplishments of the EU are really amazing and a lot of europeans seriously underestimate them, which is a pity. Europe made an incredible journey the last 75 years.
@Louis-Phillipe:
Agree, 100% !!!
Regards from Copenhagen, Denmark - where I live,
and from Cologne, Germany, where I grew up,
and from Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium, where we often went for races (and the best fries!)
and from Canazei, Italy, where my family goes for skiing in winter,
and from Sweden, where we love to go in summer,
and from Domburg, Holland, where I used to go on vacation as a kid,
and from Sussex, UK (where I studied, when the UK was still in the EU - poor buggers....)
and from Chania, Crete, Greece, where we go in autumn to catch some more sun before dark winter starts ...
... and from God knows where my own kids will study, once they have finished their Eurotravels!
Despite all its shortcomings - the EU is a modern miracle, considering that we were at each others throat for centuries - and not too long ago. Let´s celebrate our diversity and enjoy unity!
I wish we had something like that in the Americas. At least for Latin America, or South America at the very least.
@@LazyJack2003 Great input! Straight from the European heart. The European Union is a miracle and a role model for the rest of the world.
It's comedy gold when ex-employees yell "This entire place will collapse after I'm gone!" only for the place to, in fact, get better after they're gone. Same situation with Brittan. You're the problem, babe.
Not really better, but the same.
The EU wasn't exactly a good manager either though, fish and chip shops were selling more norway caught fish than UK fisheries because of EU laws restricting UK's fisheries.
If the EU had done its due diligence in accomodating the UK's culture and needs this never would have happened, but as we see from this comment section: All that the EU had to offer was sour distain for Britain. It was never about partnership, it was about dominance and a feeling of superiority to other human beings.
@@ranger_savage8406 superiority? The same superiority you Brits have towards other European countries?
@@sharknado623 You comment is an arguement strategy known as deflection.
"something you do or say in order to avoid something such as criticism, blame, or a question being directed at you"
@@ranger_savage8406 ah yea, it's the EU that didn't do their job. Or was it the UK that constantly said no like an angry toddler?
I don't think you realize this but the UK due to being so early in the EU had a lot of power and advantages that later countries didn't have.
Here in Italy almost no one speaks against the EU anymore on the political stage and many anti-EU commion people are now pro, seeing what happened in the UK.
And what about Meloni?
@@maraboo72 each day is on tv bagging the EU for money and ask for collaborativon between EU states.
@@maraboo72 in favor, with reasonable provisos
@@maraboo72 Exactly like Salvini, Le Pen, Jonhson they all knew leaving Eu would have been a disaster for common people and economy AT LEAST for 5 to 10 years , during past elections they said they wanted to leave Eu o euro, because they wanted the votes of eurosceptic (especially here in Italy ) plus they were not in charge, they had around 5% - 10% of the votes and is far easier to promise things when you already know you're gonna lose elections, since you have no responsability after the vote. After Brexit since all the risks and challanges of leaving are common knowledge they have changed their proposes, and talk about reforming the eu institutions from whithin. I repeat again that of course THEY KNEW leaving was stupid, all of theme, but they were hunting votes. The difference beetween the U.K and the other countries is that one man, a politician decided to gamble his own career, the future of its party and the future of its country in the 2016 referendum and he lost. You can be sure an eventual referendum in Italy to leave the Eu in 2016 would have been an giant victory for leavers, far more than 52-48, 60% easily and event today there are chances of a leave victory, around 51% as you can see in the videos, but none was so stupid to try.
@@maraboo72 She's very pro-Europe at the moment. The Lega Nord party in her government is another story but seems like she's keeping them on a tight leash for now.
Brexit was the first time a European Country imposed economic sanctions......on itself.
by being a subscriber of ''a different bias'' I knew that brexit will be a flop since day 1
France left NATO in 1966 and only rejoined in 2009 a full decade after Thatcher, Reagan & Pope John Paul II had faced down the Soviet threat. I wouldn' trust France an inch (2.54 cm to some). No-one ever demanded that France pay to leave or to rejoin *that* club, which is of far more relevance than Eeh-You. Funny that topic is never mentioned.
It´s sadly the truth.
I've heard many Brits wanting to get back in the EU. I don't think the EU will make their admission easy this time around.
@@daciaromana2396 If we did rejoin, we would certainly not have any of the privileges and perks we had before i.e. veto.
After Brexit , Britain is descending into economic and political chaos . Perfect advertising that the EU, despite many flaws, is not a bad idea.
Right, and no other EU country is going through anything similar such as France, Italy, Germany etc?
@@cobbler9113 By far not as worse as the UK yeah, or have you been living under a rock?
@@cobbler9113 no not worse than uk
@@cobbler9113 It's called an Energy crisis and inflation all across EU.
@@cobbler9113 no France, Italy and Germany are not in anywhere near as bad a state as the UK. The UK are the only G7 economy that hasn't returned to prepandemic levels and the second worse performing country in the G20 (behind Russia). So nope no one else is in complete chaos like the UK - the sick man of Europe
Britain : The EU is holding us back!
EU after Brexit : Huh. We are prospering. Strange.
UK used to get €9 billion every year from the EU for 'historical exceptionality'. Because they couldn't join like any other country, they needed to assert their perceived superiority over all of Europe.
@@pablom-f8762 At the end, the UK was the second largest net contributor to the EU budget. After various tax exemptions and so on, only Germany, the UK and Sweden were net contributors. Even the EU considered Holland as being part of an enormous international tax avoidance scheme.
Europe is prospering, not thanks for EU but despite it
@@Skaitania More like a Karen complaining......
@@MamRadVlaky Better prosper "despite" EU than crash and burn because of no EU.
As an American and an outsider, I am a big fan of the EU. A number of years ago, I dealt with a number of EU officials and agencies. I heard many of the complaints about Brussels and EU programs. Yet, I also saw officials from European countries relate effectively with officials from other countries with whom they had ancient rivalries and hostilities. Over the several years I worked with the EU, I saw continued progress toward making the EU and it’s member states achieve prosperity and stability. Of course, they have their problems, but my perception is that the UK made a big mistake in leaving the EU.
That is your perception..I disagree.
@@gnrseanra9070 could you explain why I would like to understand the problems with the EU
Thank you for sharing your bias out front! They allows us to be skeptical of your intentions.
Why are you talking about ancient rivalries and hostilities? That’s not the issue. Brexit was a shot across the bow to make these pig heads wake up. And they kinda did. Anti immigration stance has hardened throughout the EU. Merkel was forced to step down. Even Sweden finally closed their borders and not a peep about it since. Politics changed.
@@inconnu4961 I have no intentions. I am happily out of it. I only have perceptions based on experiences from a number of years ago and from having been a mere tourist in Europe a number of times. I also think it’s good for you to be skeptical of anyone’s perceptions and views.
In the Netherlands there are still people who think leaving the EU is a good idea. These people still don't understand the dependency on trade our country has. The UK should be seen as a warning to other members. Together we are strong, alone we fall.
Spoken like a proper zombie...
I unfortunately know two of those goons, they are about as bright as someone shoving wet bricks in a dryer.
As a dutch I like EU for simply reasons easy travel and economic trade benefits so I do not have to spend ridiciously amount of money on importing goods like we have to do from UK or USA
same in germany, right wing idiots with not the slightest understanding of economics but all the more dislike for anything foreign
I think there's more to this than Brexit alone, 3 PMs in 2 months doesn't help and neither does having a reputation supposedly worse than the Kremlin
2016: "A Brexit would start the end of the European Union".
2022: "A growing number of Brits are in favour of rejoining the EU".
Edit: 1200 likes. Thank you guys
2028: "Brexit was the beginning of the end for the United Kingdom." (Scotland votes Yes to leaving the UK in 'IndyRef2' independence referendum)
Ironic
@@timonsolus I'll drink to that, mate! And vote for it!
Let no one ever forget that Google's #1 search in the UK the day after the Brexit vote was "what is the EU". People who vote (or abstain) in ignorance rarely make good decisions.
2024: Brexit turns out to have started the end of the United Kingdom as Scotland votes for independence.
The UK conveniently provided an example of what NOT to do.
HOW?
@@bellatordei3440 by doing it and paying the (very high) price.
@@anastasiosgkotzamanis5277 what's that price?
Wrong the UK showed the rest of the EU that it can be done and easily survive. Italy and Greece will be the next to leave.
After Brexit, the parties supporting the exit of my
country from the eu or the eurozone disappeared. Even politicians and economists that heavily supported it, now literally try to convince us they never actually suggested it.
It takes a really big mistake for conservatives to admit they never suggested an idea. That means that they can no longer lie that it actually was a good idea.
Just like in 1950's Germany it was discovered that every single one of the millions of people who attended the pre-war Nuremberg Rallies died during the war so that no living German had ever been there.
Well, this is what happens when you whip up the racists and xenophobes with lie upon lie upon lie, blinding them and then driving them off a cliff. Couldn't have happened to a better bunch. The problem is that a whole nation was driven off a cliff with them. Now that the chickens have come home to roost, no one is willing to take the credit. Because these chickens have been a slow-rolling catastrophe for the British economy. Just like the Remainders had warned about.
Brexit was an American mistake, which further reduced American control over Europe. The EU should unite, strengthen its independence, and serve its own interests, not the United States. But the United States is destroying EU unity and supporting Germany's military development
@@Gretcie Sadly extreme right parties just try to grab power. Even if their argument is wrong.
As a non-European (Asian, to be more specific) who has been living in EU for last 11 years, I have to say that EU is one of the best things that EVER happened to humanity. It is not just a political and economical aliance, it is an aliance between different, nations, peoples and cultures. EU is the single most successful non-military aliance in the history of humanity. And many (e.g. US, Russia, China) would be happy to see it destroyed. We must not let that happen.
> EU is the single most successful non-military aliance in the history of humanity.
No, US is more successful.
@@denysvlasenko1865 The US is a country. The EU hasn't become one yet.
@@denysvlasenko1865 , US has more money, guns inside and military outside. US fail the social part of aliance (part where citizens come before corporations, where basic human rights are more important than profits). EU is definitely more successful and, tbh, there is even no debate about it.
@@denysvlasenko1865 as an American, you may be right but that was really lame to compare to this guy’s comment. The EU is a different kind of alliance, don’t discredit it
@@francisluglio6611 Why would you think I'm an American??? I'm not.
Expecting a Brexit domino effect is like jumping of a cliff and expecting others to do the same.
What they'll get instead is Scotland breaking off the UK to join the EU heheheh
Uk luckly left what about Poland Italy France which must suffer this corrupt communist hell. Their laws destroy economy taking power from parlaments.
true
@@renanfelipedossantos5913 lol
Well, lemmings do it, so why wouldn't other countries?
"You do know that the lemming footage of running off a cliff was staged, right?"
Shh!
I loved the video, congratulations! I landed on this video after watching another one about how people in Britain were lied about the benefits of Brexit... This was indeed a huge lesson for the rest of the EU members. Together we are definitely stronger. Greetings from Spain!
Greetings from germany, yes we stay strong together. (In May opinion we should even become more conected in some specific areas. For example (even if it is no EU self project) we should think the system of Nato over and maybe think about one big army then having all this minor militarys. (Maybe with the option to still have one but also have the Nato))
It's a pity unemployment in Spain is higher than in UK. ??
Maybe it's Brexit...😂😂😂.
We've seen how many problems Brexit caused to the UK.
Less trade, border problems, harder tourism and so on.
I can't recall a single benefit Brexit brought to them.
Immigration didn't change and the economy slowed down.
So, why would I want my country to leave the EU?
Very good points!
Immigration did change. Has led to lower UK human unemployment and higher wages, especially at the bottom, than would have been otherwise.
@@danielwebb8402 theres still ALOT of strikes here though
@@QuandaleDingle-ji2tj
Did you see France last week? Does UK have more or less strikes than most European countries generally?
It is only public sector and some dinosaur industries striking. UK real terms wages fell less than EU one's last year. Obviously that's an average so if for some was worse, so they striking, then for more than some was better.
They can send their illegal and unwanted immigrants to Africa now, I forgot the specific country name. They couldn't do that before brexit. I don't know if they should be happy with that policy but that's what they can now that they've left the EU. Maybe your country wants to do the same? Poland seems to want to get rid of its gay people still...
Brexit was such a shitshow that everyone suddenly realised it was a bad idea.
Not Me! Still happy about it Thanks😁🇬🇧👌🏻 Any working class Brit that thinks it's bad for them have been Brainwashed in my opinion.
Well, I wouldn't say everyone. There's still plenty of people that are trying to argue that it worked, they just can't come up with any evidence.
Of course it was a bad idea. What made it worse was, and still is, a country misled by the ever most corrupt Government in British history.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 nope Brexit was Great just like GREAT BRITAIN! GREAT GREAT GREAT.......ECT😁😂🤣🇬🇧👍🏻
@@dprout3392 Nope Brexit was Great just like GREAT BRITAIN😎👍🏻 Looking after ARE British Soldiers, time will show just How Great👌🏻
Brexit actually convinced people in the EU to stay and not to leave. So thank you Britain and Nigel F. demonstrating the disastrous effects of leaving the EU.
people? Talk for yourself, clown
I am British and i do not see any disastrous effects of leaving the EU. SORRY.
@@daneelolivaw602 Just you maybe
@@rwagenveldqmesnl
Sorry mate, no disastrous effects to anyone, anywhere. You want it to be disastrous, because Britain dared to vote to leave. and if it is so "disastrous" why is it that over six million people, citizens of countries in the wonderful EU, applied to remain in the UK, deciding they would rather remain here.
@@daneelolivaw602 Because UK only became really disastrous some years after the Brexit referendum. This may only get worse. But I sincerely wish for your government to make Brexit work because the EU is doing so much better since England left. The rest of the UK I feel sorry for because Scotland and Northern Island voted remain.
The most important reason to stay in the EU is: peace and prosperity. Without the EU, the risk of war against one of us within the EU, increases tenfold. But also, we know how powerful the EU is as a trading block. Sorry my dear English and Welsh friends. We love you but you made a big mistake in 2016. 😢 With love form The Netherlands.❤
It is possible to be pro-EU while simultaneously acknowledging that the EU is flawed. For example, I frequently feel that the EU lacks teeth, particularly where Hungary is concerned. Orban is too frequently the fly in the ointment, the tools to punish him for it are not powerful enough, and he absolutely needs to be taught a lesson that he needs the EU more than it needs him. Brexit has made a powerful demonstration of this, I refer you back to the Financial Times video from a few months ago.
What would resolve all the problems would be to redesign the veto power.
The vote should be democratic. If 5 vote yes and 1 no, then 1 should be forced to abide to the majority's decision. Simple as that, we are living in a democracy for a reason.
Yes
To be fair though, the Eastern European wannebe-autocrats have always been aware how much they need the EU, they never seriously peddled the idea of leaving the bloc, because EU membership is incredibly popular there.
They are instead trying to make the most out of it by keeping the EU toothless regarding the rule of law issues.
Orban for example is heavily dependent on EU subsidies, and he knows it. His argument has always been that he is entitled to these subsidies, and those subsidies have stabilized his regime, as many EU companies have invested in his country.
So those countries are instead trying to change the EU, keep it economic instead of political.
France will leave the euro zone one day, it does not benefit our lower classes, they suffer a lot, saying that it's "flawed" is just not enough
@@user-ly1fk9kk9d Macron isn't democratic when he passes laws against 75% of the people, european democracy will maybe work in 100 years but for now the countries are too different
The European Union is one greatest things for its citizens. The level of freedom its affords its us is incredible. I love the EU
Yess the EU is awersoame
Same here!
27 countries to easily live and work and travel in as if it was one country. Only EU citizens have this privilege.
@@kf8228 it’s actually 30 countries. The EU 27, Norway, Iceland and Switzerland (a few micro states too!)
I dont think is that amazing until you compare it with the alternatives... As Churchill said, democracy is the worst form of goverment except all others
What's even more hilarious is that it's not the EU that's facing dissolution, but Britain itself.
Imagine if Scotland/Northern Ireland/Wales gained independence and rejoined EU, leaving England on its own.
what would be wrong with that? freedom sucks huh
@@helloitsme98 there not saying itd be a bad thing, theyre saying itd be funny
I would love to see that happening, honestly.
*Exactly! And the same arguments that the UK gave about wanting to leave the EU in order to be more independent, is the exact same argument other areas of Britain can use for wanting to leave the UK. The irony of it all is epic...!!!* 😂
@@helloxonsfan something wrong with being independent - otherwise you are a vassal state under germany - thats your preference
How did Brexit help Europe? It's always helpful to get rid of a pain in the ass.
It's quite simple, the EU is freed from a member who didn't believe in this project and therefore was a hinderance for progress. Now they left and suddenly the EU can perform and deliver.
It is that easy, indeed.
EU can perform and deliver once they get rid of Hungary as well
Except the rest of the countries wanted out as well! how quickly people forget about Greece & the other weak links in the chain who are drawing on the savings of the German citizen and others who save, instead of spend wildly. The EU spends like money grows in the garden!
The EU was formed with support from th UK. The UK might have been more involved in the beginning apart from De Gaul and France being afraid the UK would dominate and ruin his new chance at Empire.
Funny then the EU expansion east was pushed by the UK. The single market was pushed by the UK too. The UK diligently put EU law into action while other countries did their best to ignore the bits they didn't like. Lots of EU countries hid behind the UK and let it take the heat when it came to stopping the EU doing things they didn't like. The UK did a lot to shape the EU. The UK also did a lot to keep the Americans engaged with Europe.
Onestly im glad that the trust in eu is still strong but is a shame that we needed to have the uk leave the eu and damage their economy
Frankly we were never interested in the European Project, especially from a political perspective. If anything it confirms in my view that we were an outlier and never should have joined in the first place. To be honest, if the EU offered a customs arrangement with the UK now, I suspect many would take it.
They voted mini-trump into power, those clowns, they had to be cut off like a cancer.
@Christopher Jacobs I think the main reason England tried to join the EU was to split it up. And when that strategy went south, the Englishmen pouted and left
@Christopher Jacobs Norway and Switzerland aren’t in the EU and have close relationships with it. Don’t see why we shouldn’t have something like that.
Also, lol. Way to go with the Anglophobic generalisation.
@@ZybraSun not all of us! Thankfully the brexiteers are dying out or changing their minds.
Nah the Netherlands leaving the EU wouldn't have been a Nexit, it would have been a Netherleave 😂
"Neitherland"
@@choonbox hahahahahaha lekker Ruben
i read at first sight: "Neverleave"
@@dand7763 (well thats probable true Nexit never was a real thing maybe about 30% where ever really in favor for it)
The Dutch have always complained about their high net contributions to the EU per head, but always failed to see the effect of the "Rotterdam privilege", which means cashing in customs on energy imports into the EU. Without it, the Dutch contribution per head is lower than the German. Still, with the German taxpayer having paid more than 60% of net contributions in the history of the EU (at times this number was up to 80%), there is a broad consensus among German parties (excluding the far right) that Germany has been the main beneficiary of the EU, that the money was well spent overall.
Also, German politician never really tried to blame Brussels for failures in domestic politics, as have British politicians since the times of Thatcher.
I love EU
@@domingoftwWe are and we do. Every time me or my family go to a vacation it’s within EU. Sometimes we even drive across borders just to attend music festivals like Wacken or Roskilde. Unlike you americans, which I presume you are from the way you talk, we europeans actually visit other countries and celebrate their culture instead of vilifying them and treating them like enemy or competition. lol
Bellingham is getting an Irish passport to play for Madrid and not occupy one of the three non EU spots.
@@domingoftw Pack your passport...
@@WalnutWarrior7UK was never part of the Schengen area even back when it was part of EU.
@@cbappa1 Yes I'm aware you needed it then and you need it now. That's why I said it? We don't need it, you do. The point was, sucks to be you lol
Before brexit politicians could talk about endless hypothetical benefits, now that the uk is the proof of what you lose getting out of the EU people are much less receptive to calls for leaving. The UK wanted to be better of than the rest of the eu but they actually got what everyone was warning about, without the access to the single market many industries are struggling. I am italian and before brexit I used to buy freely from the uk for a considerable amount of my spending, everything from books to clothes etc. Now I still buy few thing but the cost and the waiting time are just to high, to find substitutes in the single market isn’t that difficult.
Also it’s very hypocritical for the uk to decide to leave and then whine continuously to the eu for endless concessions, the customs problems, the Northern Ireland problem are all of the uk own making, it’s not up to the eu now to find a solution, you wanted brexit, you got it. Good riddance
I couldn't have said it better myself!
I agree
As an Englishmen I can only apologise for the stupidity of my fellow countrymen.
Politically England is the largest bloc in the United Kingdom. English people tend to read newspapers which support the Conservative Party. These are generally disengenuous. Having all the critical faculty of Russian peasants who happily partot what the Kremlin tells them many English continue to vote for the Conservative Party which likes to deflect from its own failings by blaming anyone else but especially the E.U. and trades unions.
I apologise also for the outrageous rudeness of Nigel Farage the egocentric and conceited, jingoistic bag of wind who did so much to bring us to this malaise.
@@532bluepeter1 I appreciate the sentiment, is good to know that there are still few reasonable people in England, sadly those like you 7 years ago were overpowered by the people that were brainwashed into brexit. The ones I am more sorry about are your Northern Ireland who didn’t even voted for it but have now to face the consequences of brexit on the precarious equilibrium that exist in the island. The eu will of course do the interest of the Republic of Ireland (obviously) but it seams clear that the uk doesn’t really care for Northern Ireland. While brexit sucks for everyone (even for us in the eu who so the uk as part of our shared identity of Europeans) the people of NI are clearly the one who got the worst possible outcome.
@@lucal2067 Only England voted predominantly for Brexit. The out vote has boosted the Scottish independence campaign. Conservative Party little England behaviour in an attempt to protect the narrow vested interests of their wealthy financial backers is in danger of breaking the union of the United Kingdom. The rural English in their complacency are utterly ignorant if the peril.
It seems EU citizens are finally appreciating that being an EU member puts them politically and economically on the same level as other super powers. And this is something the wider world needs as well. We can't have the US or China being the only two options to back. The EU gives countries a third option.
Exactly! No single European country is as strong as the whole of Europe united.
It also offers a third model opposed to China's socialism and America's capitalism, a market economy that is regulated and ensures a minimum level of social welfare.
@@renanfelipedossantos5913
Totally agree. Very important point.
No we dont. We hate the EU just as much as we used to.
@@renanfelipedossantos5913
A strong EU require tough centralization.
EU is still too liberal.
I afraid EU won't last in the upcoming decades.
long live the EU! 🇪🇺
greetings from the Czech rep. 🇨🇿
you love being controlled by a german gov & us military - repeat after me - slava usa
Greetings from France.🇫🇷
Long live the EU! 🇪🇺
Greetings from Spain 🟥🟨🟥
Love to the EU from America! 🇺🇸🇪🇺
Cheers lad👍 right back at ya 🇪🇺❤️🇺🇲
Thank you much love from Europe 🇪🇺to America🇺🇲 as well.
And greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱
The EU was just a scapegoat for a failed government.
Many other members tuned that down after Brexit. That's probably the main cause for the growing EU support
and now they have no EU to blame. Tory is fucked.
There's no greater deterrent than watching the consequences of a truly stupid mistake.
There is no greater facepalm moment than reading a response based on propaganda and political optics, please feel free to list these consequences that were not pre-empted when we left the EU ?
@@genome616 There is no greater facepalm than an ignorant "genomic" troll who imagines that he has made a clever point.
@@Blake-Urizen The bigger faceplant are those that shoot them down without bringing anything to support their position, that my friend is called delusion, at least I have the official stats, trade agreements and global data backing my arse up. I remind you that 95% of the so called scaremongering pushed by pro EU sources never happened and to be fair we expected most of the rest as part of leaving the EU.
@@genome616 🤡
@@genome616 is that why the majority want to go back lmao
Having the Brits leave was a bloody godsend. The obnoxious kid with anger issues who kept disrupting the lovely family dinner every chance he got finally left the table and went to his room.
Yet you didn’t mind our money when we were in the club
@@ade2487 Idk mate, it's not missed since, EU budget is decided on quite quickly, the COVID recovery fund is a metric fckton larger than the Marshall plan was (inflation adjusted). Turns out leavers overestimated their value. How much did they say it cost you on a daily basis? Did the NHS get that sum since? xD
Britain leaving the EU is in no way a positive and goes against the reason the EU was created.
@@laksyrowpolysdg3153 you've no Idea what having them was like in terms of policies if you say that. They veto'd everything, they didn't like anything, they were against everything that could have helped further integration. In fact, Brexit boosted everything the EU stood for. The UK leaving even reduced anti-EU sentiments significantly. It has definitely been a net positive.
@@ade2487 lol what the 13 billion when we are now losing 100 billion every year due to Brexit! You people are really bad at maths....
I think that brexit was the only good thing UK ever did for Ireland 😂😂😂
And then you conveniently forgot that the British were net contributors, while Ireland received billions in social assistance from the EU!
Were. Ireland are now big net contributors. @peternielsen2156
@@peternielsen2156 : And why not? Call it reparations for past horrific deeds committed by the British on the Irish. It will never happen again.
@@celticlofts As long as the Irish can receive money from other countries that have been duped into this circus the EU is, you think it's all right.
Let's see what you think when the Irish are going to be net contributors due to the EU signing up other poor countries so industry can still get free labor while filling Ireland with Islamists to keep the population busy with problems , so no one starts thinking about what the EU really is.
The EU is nothing but a sick pyramid game where only the few are winners!
Haha you will be a 3rd world Muslim nation like all other countries in the West.
As an American I want to show my appreciation, love and support for the European Union! Brexit really showed just how valuable this organization is despite its flaws and I wish the EU success in the coming years. Brexit will probably go down as one of the greatest mistakes in the 21st century and Nigel Farage will be viewed as a clown.
What do you actually know about the EU and the way it attempts to erode the concept of the nation state? Please don`t say there wouldn`t be vociferous opposition in the US if a bunch of commie loons in Brussels started tampering with your laws while selectively imposing their own in order to benefit the economies of France and Germany.
How would you like it if your money was being used to build up countries like Ireland, Hungary, Malta and Cyprus only to be repaid by them setting up tax havens on your doorstep specifically designed to rip off your economy? How would you like it if Germany threw open its doors to a million refugees without consulting you first then used EU laws to force you to take some of them in? How would you like it if the EU turned a blind eye to France flagrantly violating its trade laws in order to bankrupt the US agriculture industry?
These are but a few of the abuses that the UK had to tolerate for 50 years.
I would rather be a slightly poorer master in my own house than a slightly richer servant in one owned by the French and Germans.
@@justonecornetto80 He probably knows as much as you do. Solid chance it's more as you voted for Brexit.
You contributed something like 13-14 billion pounds a year into the EU? And your own economists estimate conservatively that by leaving you wiped out 4% GDP. Roughly 100 billion every year. Those maths simple enough for you?
@@seankavanagh7625 You`ll have a great deal of difficulty coming up with any evidence to support the theory that the UK has lost 4% of its GDP due to Brexit. Trade between the UK and EU has actually increased plus the dividend of of new trade deals is yet to be applied.
Trying to conflate the economic damage caused by the pandemic and the Ukraine crisis with Brexit is nothing more than bitter remoaner`s sour grapes.
typical american interfering in things that are nothing to do with them...
@@AnonIllumi
He didn‘t interfere, he merely stated his opinion.
Pipe down on your unnecessary bickering a little, will ya?
*I LIVE IN BULGARIA* in 2016 we had quite a strong nationalist sector here - they have TOTALLY SHUT UP - Brexit was BRILLIANT for the EU
It has demonstrated the absolute economic suicide it is to leave the EU - *THANK YOU TO MY FELLOW BRITS FOR YOU MASSIVE SACRIFICE IN THE NAME OF EU SOLIDARITY*
Haha yes, same here in France. Hi to you, fellow european and Bulgarian friend
That happened in many member states, truly amazing how clueless Farage was thinking Brexit would have the opposite effect.
Lovely.
I have noticed that politicians in my country have stopped constantly pointing fingers at the EU and Brussels as an excuse for their own bad management. I guess seeing what that rhetoric brought the UK was a good wake up call even for those greedy egoists.
@@gre894 Funny how people sitting in their living rooms KNOW more than a politician who sees all the papers and knows most of the issues! LOL But certainly every one here is the expert on things. Until you understand what Farage could see, you would be better off holding your criticism. i am sure he is a man smarter than many in here.
Brexit was the shock that I wanted to get them into gear and start caring again while over here our leaders are putting more holes in the ship as it sinks.
No is wrong is UK that always block this. Now that is out makes it better UK always caused issues in EU. Imagine if EU armies were closer integrated something that UK blocked. Will make Putin think twice if dare at all
UK always stood as an obstacle for eu integration but since brexit the eu is more integrated, United, happier and secure.
As an outside (Canadian) observer to the Brexit drama, I had no dog in the fight and little understanding about the important issues at play but it always seemed to me that it made more sense to be inside "the big club" than outside of it.
Sure, there will be problems; there always are, but a country the size and scale of the UK would be able to wield far more influence to change things from the inside than from the outside.
Brexit has hugely helped Canada by depressing Quebec separatism.
Whatever happened to the CANZUK thing we (America) wasn't invited to ?
@@elvangulley3210 .....HUH???...
@@hughjass1044 basically it was supposed to be the uk version of the EU but with Anglophone countries Canada the uk Australia and New Zealand we weren't invited even though we are joined at the hip with all those countries in everything else
@@elvangulley3210 OK, so... what?... I'm somehow to blame for this supposed slight? Why the hell are you asking me about this? Was it me who excluded you?
Brexit is the best advertisement for the EU in its existence
It existed. Now brain dead.
@@chuapg1518 how? the EU is the richest economic area in the world, the UK is shrinking, have a think and come back to me
@@benjicool2808 Because European politicians are not Europe centric but USA centric. Many European politicians "booed" France Macron when he emphasized Europe for European. Currently, it's NATO that's ruled over EU.
How? Since Brexit the eurosceptic views had only risen...😒
Nexit and Sexit. More likely to mean Northern Ireland and Scotland than Netherland and Sweden.
Yeah I have no clue how someone who talks about leaving the EU for a living messed up "Swexit," it's literally the same portmanteau as Brexit, first two letters then exit. But then I guess I was expecting too much from Mr. Farage.
I was wondering if he was looking for examples with N and S for this very reason (so that the names are already “occupied”)
Haha true!
Britain was like that bully who rallied everyone "to leave this joint!", but as soon as he stepped out of the door, he heard the door slam shut behind him, with no one with him. Only then did Britain realize, his bullying days are over!
Or like this drunk guy screaming: "hey guys, let's jump off this bridge, everyone follow me, banzaaaaaaaai". Then he crashed out and guess what? The others were not that drunk.
"Finally, thank god" is a pretty standard global response to Britain leaving.
With the amount of drama they brought prior and during leaving, cant blame the people showing that kind of talk, even now UK is still blaming the EU for being 'punished'
Yup, haven't heard anyone really wanting to leave the EU here in the Netherlands since Brexit.
From time to time you still hear Baudet and Wilders about Nexit...
Perhaps they are waiting to see how successful the UK are with Brexit so far not looking good .
Too busy spending all the extra Euros from the extra business that has gone its way!
Someone should send a fabulous gift basket to the leaders of Brexit. They were undoubtedly the best recruiters for the benefits of membership in the EU.
And another basket for Putin for the NATO enlargement 🤣
Putin probably as well. Nothing bounds people more together than a clear enemy
"Why there hasn't been a domino effect?"
Because we're not stupid.
1:59 what the hell are these bars? you cannot just put some different colored bars on there, with no numbers or even a reference where this is from.
Well seeing how to the UK did after leaving, let's say we prefer to play it safe
Yes. Europeans will prefer the devil they know for quite some time after the debacle of Brexit (whether it's a PR and diplomatic debacle or a full economic and Divided Kingdom debacle is relevant in the long term, but not in the short term, as much of the damage is done).
As a European i really have to thank the Eaton crowd for giving us the Telenovela that never stops.
It is endlessly, if morbidly, entertaining, like a train crash that doesn't slow down.
Yep 6 years on and it provides the best soap opera this side of the channel, better than Yes minister ever was in brashness and abandon of reason.
Taverius, you are very welcome! 🤣🤣 I voted remain, but at least some entertainment can be had 😅
@@aaroncox387 The only subject im not prepared to make fun of : remainers chained with the lunatics in a wrecked ship.
@@jda4887 I appreciate the sympathy 😊
I agree. The series has one of the best dark humour i have ever seen.
While I've always been pro EU, Brexit just made me more supportive of it
Gee it's almost like when the person who is always complaining leaves the party, the party gets better
Can you or one of the other TLDR channels do a video on how the Europe's drive against fiscal evasion played a role in Brexit? You haven't touched on that yet. The European Commission is a major force within the Financial Action Task Force while the UK, well... doesn't have much of an incentive in cracking down on its "financial services".
As for Brexit, it was the best possible reminder to EU citizens that in spite of the Union's flaws, there is no rosy future that lies outside of it.
This sounds like conspiracy theory territory, like somebody or some group orchestrated Brexit so they could save some money on their tax submissions, but if it were true what a conspiracy it would be! (I don't believe it was the government at the time, the government wanted to remain members and argued that leaving would hurt the financial services sector)
Nonsense
I wouldn't call the 'American crisis' a crisis but rather an awakening which was further strengthed by Russia's invasion (actual crisis).
Europe, the EU and/or NATO can't rely on the US completely. They're allies but we as Europeans need our own security and it feels like that in the last 1-2 years it's finally being taken into consideratoin.
The "American problem" wasn't about America, but basically all about tRump & his MAGAts...!!! Keep in mind that the American people NEVER elected him. He suffered huge losses to his opponents both times. The ONLY reason why he was able to claim the White House in 2016 was because of our crazy system called the Electoral College that literally took the prize from the winner & gave it to the loser...!!!
Yes!!
And how about stop bullying Russia too at that? Be bit grateful, as crazy as they are, they are the one whom actually stopped the Nazi.
Based
Looking at the whole process Uk has gone through and where they are now there is no doubt no one is considering leaving
I find the idea of EU beautiful. Working together and keeping your idependence while doing it.
How independent is a country that can't make its own laws?
@@Jabberstax How independent is a country relying on food banks to feed it's workers?
@@Jabberstax Just scale it down and that is your answer "How independent is any city in any country if people in that city can't have their own laws ... or " Why would people in Manchester want someone from London telling them what to do, or people in wales from England? how is it any different ??? the union between Wales and England is not any different from the one with EU ... it is a matter of perception of scale nothing else ... but if you think like a racist then no union will ever work ... plus to educate you EU has PR elected government unlike an archaic Britsh first pass the post that is not even democratic, with Prime minister appointing his cronies into positions rather than like EU having elected positions based on skills and experience... and for your information, we were not told by EU what to do .. Uk played a major part in creating EU laws and democratically voting on them... Every single Law had to be voted on and passed here at home first .... Brussel telling us what to do is a lie, and getting control back was a story sold to uneducated idiots and racists in order to get them to vote for Brexit
@@Jabberstax every country can make its own laws in Europe. Souvereignty is still the most important pillar in the EU. There are just coordinations which are agreed upon by all member states, so these are actually laws the EU governments make!
You wrong eu takes all power away from country parlament ,power to channge taxes, laws and also you need to remeber that people who are there are not elected its most corrupt communist organization that ever existed thats why a lot of countries want to leave.
In Sweden both the furthest right and the furthest left parties used to be in favor of leaving the EU. Following Brexit, they have both retracted from their previous positions.
being a german slave is better - i agree
@UCtZAfJhRULOh3sjTF_8YhDg isn't most of eu's parliament made up of germans?
@@helloitsme98 No, they are mostly made up of non-Germans. If we want to draw arbitrary lines in the sand.
@@Bedinsis In your opinion is the eu made up of representatives that represent their constituents or just corporate bought off agents?
@@helloitsme98 Mostly the former.
3 new candidate countries. 4 new members of the eurozone, soon to be 5. And one new member of schengen. Since brexit.
Except Turkey which is ostracized.
@@chuapg1518 ostracized with good reasons, we can talk once they leave from their occupation of Cyprus.
@chuapg1518 good. We still remember when erdogan said he was using demography to conquer Europe
We can be proud of a few things in our history. Creation of the EU is one of them.
What needs to be added to the British lexicon is - „Faraged“ as in „I faraged myself after 8 pints“.
😂😂😂
Ive lived in France, Greece and the UK, anecdotal i know, but in my experiences most people have more interest and a better understanding of everyday politics and systems etc than they do in the UK. Obvs this is a primarily british channel thats focused on politics, so i assume the watchers of this channel perhaps dont fall into this category!!!
That's true. There's a very active EU cover organisation here and they do a gazzilion of project for all groups of people, from entertinment to serious debates. Ordinary Brit probably better understands British empire than EU, although it fell apart long ago.
you mean "about the EU", don't you?
British news is heavily concentrated on former British and English-speaking colonies such as India, parts of Africa and the US, of course their average newsreaders are therefore less knowledgeable about European countries and the EU as a whole.
However, most continental Europeans have the same problem regarding most other parts of the world. As a German, I start to get bored how every discussion in the news is about central Europe, about Ukraine and Russia, France, but it barely leaves the European continent, so I have to rely on the BBC news service to get to know more about the rest of the world.
Could you imagine the likes of Mogg, Johnson, Cleverley etc, being elected to any European democracy!!!
Do the Greek's have understanding that if you vote against the EU, your vote gets ignored?
@DoubtingThomas Worse than Cameron, Johnson, Truss and Sunak? I'm not sure there's much to choose between them.
Since Brexit, I started to study British politics while getting my journalism degree in college and wow I thought the American government was messy. One of my classmate's family is from Northern Ireland and fled to the US in the 90s when the IRA conflict was happening. She explained why she was scarred by the Northern Ireland issue and was sure there were going to be more conflicts in the near future. As she said, England never really solved it but just put it onto others.
North Ireland issue got "solved" only because both Republic of Ireland and UK joined the EU, so the reasons for the "Trubles" became largely irrelevant. There was no more borders between Republic of Ireland and UK. Both ware in the same market so no customs, checks, export red tape or anything. And the EU demanded equal treatment of minorities in your country as with majority.
What brexiters dint want to understand, now with UK out of the customs union there has to be a border again between Republic of Ireland and the UK. If you put it on the island of Ireland between Reupblic of Ireland and North Ireland you restart The Troubles, and if you put it in the Irish Sea its unacceptable to the UK because it puts a border between parts of its own territory. In effect the Northern Ireland is being separated from the UK.
Uk is a shit show with no democracy we still have the roman first past the post-voting system ... meaning a party could win an election even if only 30% of the entire nation vote for that party ...then ministerial positions unlike in the EU are not elected ... Prime Minister literally appoints his buddies in all important positions based on a crony value and scratch my back favors rather than skills and experience ... Whole UK government is a corrupt shit show for Eaton graduates to play politics... yet British press would have you believe EU is corrupt where entire parliament is actually democratically elected with proportional representation!
@@marinonino4350 Best for Northern Ireland would be to reunite with the Republic of Ireland.
If Germany could do it I am sure the Irish could.
@@FutureChaosTV They could but England doesn't want a divorce. Almost like a toxic relationship.
USA is a disaster
If you show graphs like at 1:50 please also show the numbers on the x axis. It is important information if the leave pols were in the range on 5% and got down to 3% or if they were in the range of 90% and got down to 60%
Why? UK left, Leave won. There is no fresh veg or fruit in most supermarkets, the sea is full of crap, and the car, farming, fishing, small business industries are dying or dead. Leave won.
Not only has EU coordinated sanctions and military support for Ukraine relatively efficiently, it has done a top notch job navigating and lessening the impact of the food shortage and energy crisis resulting from Kremlin aggression. So there have been so many EU milestones that show the organisation as nimble and effective in this one rapidly developing chain of events.
2 months after your positive comment, Poland, Hungary and Slovakia are implementing agriculture trade sanctions to Ukraine.
In my opinion it was obvious that leaving the EU could have desasterious consequences. And thats why I am really suprised that so many Brits had been so narrow minded and did not anticipate these consequences. In some way for the EU itself I think it is a gain that we don´t have to negotiate any special treatment the British want to have.
There was a massive news warfare meaning a lot of misinformation has been spread around: similar to the US Presidential election corrupted by Cambridge analytica in 2014. So we should not look down on the Brits and tell them how stupid they are because in many ways they were victims themselves. But of course I am not in favor of supporting any UK government who was responsible for this mess in the first place because those people should have known, they had the time to research, so shame on them!
You are fooling yourself if you think they did not anticipate these conciquences. The englishmen knew that there would be economic damages, they knew their polititians would not carry out their wishes, and they still voted to make a point that they want freedom and do not consent to what is being forced uppon them. We should look up to them and follow in their footsteps.
Never underestimate the power of the UK right wing tabloid media. The Daily Mail and the Sun were the information sources of choice for these idiots. Farage was their poster boy. Unfortunately the right wing media dominate in the UK. They wanted Brexit and that's what they got.
@@kungszigfrids1482 True true, by jumping off a cliff, you can obtain freedom at such a bargain price. I suggest you do the same LUL.
What consequences? If you turn the TV off nothing has changed. Maybe can't get enough hospitality workers? For the current ones they got a demand linked pay rise.
Glad to see Europe is showing signs of moving towards harmonious existence, moving beyond centuries (actually millennium+) of squabble and violence. I hope EU project succeeds in uniting Europe, a feat that hasn't been achieved since CE 475.
What a joke! You are like those commies who blindly believed in USSR despite being economically and politically a non sense. Glad to see my French people being more and more euroskeptic.
EU is showing signs of splitting and squabbling during the Russo-Ukraine war and US - China economic war. EU project would fail in uniting Europe, it already lost Britain.
@@chuapg1518 troll army is obvious. try harder
@@Tuilelen Don't try to be blind and deaf to Europe situations. At least, pay some attention to international news.
Everyone looked at Britain and went “FUUUUUCK THAT!”
I’ve always been a supporter of the EU and I will continue to support this! We’re stronger together!
@@thelleftaremad7556 Why do you ask me this?
As a dual EU and US citizen I think a more self sufficient Europe will have an even better relationship with America. Probably half the American population have ancestral ties to one or more EU nation.
America wants to crush Europe which is why they are deindustialising Germany. That is what the inflation reduction act is for. There is even talk of a trade war amongst the Euro elites - which the Americans don't care about.
@@jwadaow whatever you say troll.
The same holds for UK ancestry though...
I want to stay close to Europe. I know the US isn't perfect, but I have just been so surprised how idiotic they have been and the xenophobia I see from Europeans online. It's clear many many of them despise us. The average American seems to be unaware of this, I think, and still thinks we are mostly friends. I think it's ridiculous how much they rely on us for their militaries and then Russia in energy. The US probably won't ever leave them in the dust. That would be very unpopular with us. However, they need to boost theirs. And it's so annoying how they decided to rely on a hostile nation, Russia, for energy. And now seeks to be fine doing it again with China. Be critical of the US. But being friends with China is not good.
And also the but on the video where Europe is mad that America is trying to protect its industries. That's what politicians are voted in for. Americans voted for them to look after their interests. They are not here to care about the EU, nor are EU governments here to care about American companies.
I know I've been negative. I want us to remain allies, but it seems further and further away every day.
@@baronvonjo1929 That's an interesting take, but certainly not one I feel as a European. I don't think there are many Europeans that despise America. There are some who despise the US government and there are definitely a lot who feel a sense of superiority given how much more our culture/governments seem to care for their people compared to America, but I don't think I've met anyone who actually despises Americans.
As for relying on Russia for energy, that's mostly Germany and some of the border states and as someone with connections to 3 European countries none of which were particularly reliant on Russia, I'm annoyed at the German government for their part in putting Europe in this situation, they should have known better and they're holding Europe back at this moment in many ways. But both with our military and our reliance on Russia we're quickly moving in the right direction.
As for China yeah it'd be nice to be less reliant on them but probably best to wait until after we're properly off Russia before we tackle that one and from what I've seen we're going in that direction just not as fast as the US maybe.
Lastly yeah sure that might have been in part why the politicians got elected but it's still potentially damaging us and we have a right to dislike it as we are allies after all, and decisions like that will understandably have political consequences which may not be good for Americans so their leaders should also take that into account.
Brexit really proved the exact opposed of what they argued for, and the events that unfolded along the way made it more evident to anyone.
Evidence please.
@@gnrseanra9070 Were are they, the visionaries of Brexit? Are they done, rebounding what they destroyed? Because they're nowhere to be seen.
@@piotrbratek3996 We agree 100 percent.
The thing I hate most about Brexit was the travelling and moving restrictions alone.
I have friends in the UK I wish could move to an EU/EEA country and Brexit has made that much more difficult
Cheers from the Czech republic. I fully respect the decision of Brits to leave,you are masters of your faith. I just wish you could see how people lie to you and lies led you to leave. In my nation free will is the most important thing for us and if liars convince you, they steal your free will. Have the wisdom to hear us out, we prefer to have you as friends, and friends tell each other the truth, especially when it's ugly.
> In my nation free will is the most important thing
Remember that "free will" when the next idiotic EU rule prohibits you from doing something. A recent small glimpse of this process for me was when single-use plastic cups suddenly disappeared in the shop I usually bought them, and when I asked the shop clerk she said that they were banned by an EU decision. (I assume our benevolent EU bureaucrats think they have to "save the planet" from evil citizens who can't be trusted to properly dispose of trash, and will throw it into the ocean instead. CZ having no oceans did not stop their thinking).
I think there was too much indecision about what that choice would be. In practice, there was 2-3 parallell Leave campaigns who all believed they were the one true Leave variant supported by the referendum. They kept pushing that discussion ahead through the referendum until time was up. Each single Leave variant could have worked out, but there was no clear conclusion on which one it should be.
We're still in NATO and that's becoming increasingly important, and we'll never leave that. I voted Remain in the EU and was sad to leave but it's done now. A Labour Government in London in 2025 will not rejoin the EU but will mend fences with it that have been stubbornly torn down by ultra-Brexiteers, which there was no reason to do. I look forward to renewed co-operation between the UK and EU short of actual membership (which would mean the UK promising to adopt the euro currency, which in my opinion IS a terrible idea, unlike the EU itself in general)
Agreed
Half of us in the UK have always seen this, unfortunately our older demographics are blinded by xenophobia therefore voted leave. The younger generation in this country will ensure the UK EU relationship rebuilds into the future.
"If we jump over the cliff, everyone will follow us!" -Nigel Farage
UK is basically Karen of EU
No and we aren’t in the European Union
@@louisbeerreviews8964 yes you are, and you can't even make up your mind to be a single nation on the same f****g island!
So I guess Brexit was to be expected.
It was
Lol, exactly. At least the UK used to be. Now Hungary has become the main Karen.
I in India, dream of something like the EU where I can travel to some of the neighbouring countries(However, some of them are pretty annoying). The UK got carried away with it's isolationist narrative and is now in a horrible state with a cost of living crisis and many other problems. I feel the future is globalization and the EU is a good example of how it's a good model. No matter how hard UK tries to deny it, France, Spain and Ireland will always be your neighbours!!
Though India is already massive in and of itself. The EU isn't even 30 % larger than India despite consisting of 27 member states
India and Nepal are the only friendly countries in the sub continent with this possibility. I’d include Bhutan but they have shown themselves to be extremely xenophobic.
@@induction7895 Well even Indians are also very Xenophobic don't you think(their attitudes towards North East folks)? This stuff is there in the EU as well, just like everywhere in the world but economic benefits overshadow all these circumstances. I think we can include Sri Lanka in the mix as well. Relations have been improving with Bangladesh as well. Eventually if Pakistan starts becoming a little secular maybe they as well can join this setup.
@@DAG924 Many people in India are indeed quite racist, extremely racist even. In the current situation, it is difficult for a person of a certain community in India to travel to other parts of India itself. So EU-like situation seems far-fetched. But India as an actual democratic country has big internal dialogues and debates and it can be hoped that with time, India emerges as an actual big country, not just in size and population which it is now. Nepal and Sri Lanka are relatively easygoing countries but with their own issues. Bangladesh seems quite progressive too. I do not have much hope for Pakistan in the near to mid-term future.
who cares about india?? it could burn to the ground that no one would care!
We, in the other EU countries, have seen through GB's excellent example that the need to leave the EU is only an advantage for the financial sector and its need for less regulation. But GB has shown brilliantly that the benefits accrue only to speculators and exploiters and are fatal for the countries as such. The time is for better and not less cooperation if we in Europe do not want a society like the American one.
(..)"An advantage for the financial sector and its need for less regulation"(..) What a big true. The middle and lower clasess are whom
really pay the consequenses. The bills. This was so clear for the rest of EU citizens.
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The initial idea that brought together the core countries of 1951 was to share coal and steel (the key drivers to make a modern war machine) in order not to repeat once again the devastations of WW1 and WW2. The former enemies of countless wars (during 15 centuries since the fall of the Roman Empire) became friends.
@@marcobassini3576 I think the idea of coal and steel sharing was more because they were the foundation to rebuild Europe (housing, infrastructure, industry). Not to build a "war machine" I think the European were fed up by wars and realized they need to come together once and for all.
@@marcmarco5373 If you share the resources that could give you a competitive edge in modern warfare you are basically saying you are not willing to exploit that edge to make war (once again). For the first time in history the power of the armies in WW1 and WW2 was proportional to the industrial power behind them. And the industrial power at that time was mainly linked to the production of steel (the coal is needed to produce steel). Without steel you cannot produce rifles, guns, tanks, gunships, .....
Exactly the conclusion I’ve come to visiting the EU several times since Brexit, rather than making us stronger, we’ve made THEM stronger.
Sad that so many people can only see the advantages of membership now we’ve left!
there are no advantages aside of socialism
Insane how many STILL do not see the reality of the situation and continue to try and blame the EU. so bizarre!
@@MamRadVlaky Traveling without passport, not as much paper work for im- and export, lower customs, nooooooo, no benefits at all
There was a party or organisation called Irexit in Dublin.
They had candidates in last local elections and U Tube videos.
They all gone very quiet now.
They were as thick as 2 short planks as we say in Ireland.
Just a little reminder. Ireland did not leave the EU. We are still members.
Brits get confused between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, a lot of English people I meet actually believe the whole of Ireland is British, just typical English ignorance, we’re used to it..
@@paula5440 It's not typical at all. Everyone I know knows that north and south Ireland are different countries. It's quite typical for Irish people to think the whole island is one country though. I don't put that down to ignorance though, just wishful thinking.
A lot of Brits actually consider the people living in the Ulster colony as Irish much to the anger of the ultra right wing Religious bigots we know as the DUP, who throw their toys out of the pram when they don't have a majority to continue their hate campaigns.
We're glad to have you!
@@paula5440 what are you even talking about
How does someone confuse N.ireland and ireland
If Portugal left the EU as some on the Left talked about and traded the Euro for the Escudo, our debt would explode. We were underdeveloped when we became a Republic, same durig the dictatorship, the Marshal plan was not enough to change this or even after the revolution, it was only after joining the EU that things started to change
Same for Ireland...
@@jadawin10 tbf Ireland had to rise back up from over a century of English persecutions and bad treatment, still hasnt recovered from the Potato famine nowadays too which is just insane to start from so low and still rise back up
One of the reasons they voted to leave was because they were sick of seeing their money was being spent on third rate countries like Portugal so they could live life at a standard they don't deserve and can't afford themselves. Same for Romania, Bulgaria, Poland etc.
Likely the primary reason is how the UK hasn't benefited from Brexit at all.
The EU reformed significantly and the geopolitical times changed massively it's obviously going to be better to be part of a bloc.
The UK was always some kind of an issue within the EU on many topics. Now the remaining members have more or less many interests in common. Decisions are easier to take now without the UK.
Go, EU! 💪
Balanced reporting on these issues...well done!
It would be great if that bar chart had a reference point. I’m not sure if those values are 80% or 5%
I felt the same, in the beginning they shortly show the actual number but its not really clear tbh
In addition, the EU is the only relevant institution that imposes sensible regulations on super-large companies, such as rules against hate and lies on the Internet or the charging cable issue. The way in which such resolutions are evaluated is also impressive. Commissions of the EU Parliament work on proposals, all EU states comment on them, as do experts with a great deal of know-how. And in the end, Parliament decides with members from 27 countries. It is an impressive example of supranational democracy.
Sensable regulations on supper large comanies you say? Never seen it.
@@kungszigfrids1482 do you live in a cave? Didn't you see how they bitchslapped Apple and Facebook?
@@crimsoncardinal208 Nop Ive not seen it. Apple and Facebook are as horrible as always.
@Kungs Zigfrīds yeah, and EU knows that too. They are forcing Apple to stop making their unique charger and make it same as Android chargers. If they don't then they are free to leave market. This change was universally loved because you can charge IPhone with more common Android chargers and not overpriced ones.
This makes me really sad. I think this was one of the biggest goals of the Eurosceptics. They did not want to have to fight the EU who were protecting people's human rights. The average UK person has no idea of the terrible erosion of our personal freedoms we are going to suffer. It's already started as we can see by the Tories trying to bring in a ban on the right to strike.
Ireland has the highest support for the EU
From a German perspective. I love the EU and as stated in the video i see the benefits of sticking together for all of us.
Even Germany as the biggest EU country by population and economy is relatively small population wise and also in actual size on an international scale.
The only way for us europeans to stand up for ourselves is to stick together, understand eachothers individual struggles and preserve our own interests an values.
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We are nothing without each other. We are safe and richer together. Just a few days ago I was on a dating app texting with somebody from Lithuania. We are both Europeans, 2 hours away from each other, living in separate countries. It's beautiful.
Well said!
Yo bro, France is the biggest EU country, and germany is the most numerous EU country by population
mate, France is bigger than Germany. Even Spain and Sweden are bigger than Germany. Only in population Germany is the biggest.
@@mikatu Which is besides of the economy in which it is also the biggest, the most relevant of those measures.
I thought it was clear that I meant population wise, but I should have stated it initially.
Size is only relevant for national resources but not particularly for its relevance on the international stage.
They might not be close to forming a European state but the above points have brought the EU closer together.
It could be that forming a European state simply isn't everyone's goal. There are probably many avid EU supporters who strongly back a brotherhood of European nations but are opposed to their melding into one state and ultimately wish to retain their sovereignties.
@@jyreklordinthrain7813 might as well have a confederation of EU states. With defence being one of the only policies the central government has authority over other states 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ no reason why that couldn’t work.
I think no one in the EU actually wants to form a state
@@alexlanyi2329 then why does the EU act like one then?
@@alexlanyi2329 i want a united federation of europe