@@romanplays1Of which no other country other than France itself voluntarily joined. Military conquest doesn't count. But thanks for the metric system and the code Napoleon, mon ami. It started with the Benelux, look it up. London Customs Convention on wiki. BeNeLux later became European Coal and Steel community joined by France, Italy, and West Germany leading to the EU today.
Austria-Hungary, was one of the role models of EU... it was two countries with theeir own government but with common defence, monetary and forein policy
Comments getting silly. The Kalmar Union and Poland-Lithuania are examples of personal unification (i.e. the unification of multiple monarchies due to a single person carrying multiple titles), which has nothing to do with the will of the people. Also, the Continental System is another name for the Continental Blockade that Napoleon tried to impose on the British. Surely you just mean the First French Empire, that is, all the countries conquered by Napoleon in which he installed puppet monarchs, united under the French flag... which is unification through conquest and has nothing to do with the will of the people. The Benelux was a customs union and an intergovernmental co-operation made up of democratic countries. It was the live test of many principles we see in the European Union today. It has several intergovernmental institutions which regulate co-operation in various fields including infrastructure, trade, energy, intellectual property rights, and many more. Plus, it remains intergovernmental, which is to say, all participants keep their sovereignty. Which can't be said for unification through conquest OR personal unification.
As an Italian and a strong pro-European I can partially understand the discomfort that the Dutch have in paying for funds that are misused in other European countries. In Italy a famous Facebook page that denounces the bad way in which European funds are spent is called "things that Dutch taxpayers can't wait to pay" So I believe that there should be funds for less developed countries, but at the same time it is good to make sure that they are spent well.
@markknoop6283 Until you tell them they can't buy cheap fuel across the border anymore, heavy fireworks or we get even more congestion, because of border checks. Or that the agricultural sector is going to collapse without the labor force that's from across the EU. Then suddenly people want to stay.
I'm from Enschede, about the 17th or 18th largest city of the Netherlands, and it's on the border with germany. Together with a handful of other municipalities from the netherlands and from Germany they formed the Euregio. from a young age, about 8, I moved from the netherlands to the first village over accross the border. I went to school in NL, then in DE, then in NL again (the base language is kinda important to follow a suitable level of education). For many many years on my moped i crossed the border 4 times a day 6 days a week. This Euregio concept of municpalities and regional governments forming cross-national institutions has been implemented so far about in 80 instances accross Europe! During the chaotic first quarantiens of the pandamic, this piece of border remained uniquely open and free due to communication between Enschede and Münster being better than between between enschede and The Hague, and between Münster, Onsabruck and their respective federal state capitals. The idea that the prospering netherlands (who historically have extracted so so much wealth from the world) is paying the EU an unreansably amount seems silly to me. It surely must be less than the wealth granted by access to the single market and Schengen. But even if it were, helping the rest of europe prosper, will only help us out in the long term, especially in a multipolar geopolitical landscape where a tiny nations such as the netherlands would certainly find itself on the receiving side of what we have economically dealt out historically.... The netherlands, within the quasi-federation that is the Benelux (to which Nord-Rhein Westphalen was in on the earliest formation talks, in order to join) within the something inbetween confederation-federation that is the European union, sown tightly through Euregions, would be absolutely devestated upon leaving the EU. My hometown, to which masses of german tourist flock weekly, on to where thousands commute to for work or study from germany, would be economically and socially devestaded to a similiar scale as to when the textiles industry moved over seas or when the allies accidentally bombed it (they thought they were already flying over germany, navigating by stars and the lights of ciies) if we the netherlands left the EU.
Fun fact, Gelderland comes from the German town Geldern, it was part of the Duchy of Geldern's area which nowadays is Gelderland and Nord-Rhein Westphalen. While Geldern used to be the capital this was later changed to the larger city of Arnheim.
@@Jalmaan fun fact: in Italian the word "Geldria" is used for both Gelderland and the city of Geldern. So it seems strange to have a German city with the same name as a Dutch province.
i agree that the amount of spending is not an issue, and is largely beneficial to everyone. Most people take issue seeing the aid money being wasted. To them it feels like they work hard and get taxed a lot, but the aid money gets pissed in the wind when it arrives.
I visited Sint Eustatius and Saba a few years ago. Beautiful places and wonderful people, I hope they will become EU citizens within 20 years, along with all the French oversea islands. ❤❤❤
I visited Bonaire, Curacao Sintmaarten and Saba a few years ago! Couldnt visit Sint Eustatius and Aruba due to covid. You can only get to Saba with a certain small propeller plane since the landing strip is only like 80 metres long. Bonaire is my favorite island of the bunch
The Netherlands is a key member of the EU. One of the first countries to realize that we can not be isolated from our neighbors after WWII and we see that the majority of the population wants common political agenda in major EU issues. Something that more countries need to recognize before it's too late.
@@TrazynnIt's economical suicide. Rotterdam will be completely abolished when leaving the EU making Antwerpen probably the new Rotterdam. Export from our farmers will be crippled entirely (60% is export, and you can expect that to be reduced by over half). Our fishermen won't be able to fish in common waters anymore. Closed borders will cripple our already massive workers shortage. All with all, it makes 0 sense to leave the Union. Looking at the UK most people who voted in favour feel betrayed by Boris Johnson's promises and see Brexit as a complete failure.
@@erik7853 Immigration hasn’t caused any real damage so far. The only economic damage we’ve seen from immigration are due to strict labor rules applying to refugees put in place by our right-leaning government. That’s fully unrelated to the EU. Not only that, our economy has grown and our crime rates have dropped significantly despite our increase in migrant-population percentages (26% as of today). The whole idea that immigration is killing our country is a populist illusion based on misinformations and hyperboles based on exceptions like Ter Apel. The Netherlands also doesn’t suffer a lot from EU laws. With western European countries having the most influence on EU lawmaking most new laws and regulations are in line with existing Dutch policies and mainly target southern and eastern European countries to close the gap in wealth and progressivism between the east and west.
Let’s stop wondering about this question. NL cannot survive 1 year without EU. Also, they were among the first founders of EU. So no matter what, the Dutch love EU. 🎉
@@tim3440What are you even talking about? Luxembourgh IS in the EU. What exactly could we "do exactly the same as them"? Countries can't be in Schengen if they're not in the EU. They're not the same thing but one is a prerequisite for the other.
@@erik7853 That's a shallow basis for an argument. Switzerland (And Norway) are in Schengen because they accept the jurisdiction of the ECJ and submit themselves to a wide range of EU regulations. They are EU rule takers even if they aren't members. Also you didn't answer my question.
@@NLTops My bad, Luxembourgh had to be Switzerland. Countries cant be in Schengen if they're not in the EU? Right. You can do anything. You realize the EU is just a political project? Like thinking one comes with the other is a mistake.
I'm Dutch and I am pro EU. Because my intrest in History I figured out that since the fall or the roman empire Europe was in contant turmoil till the end of WW2. Yeah the cold war happened but no real big conflicts arose when the EU was formed between its members. Its expansion meant that more nations actually became more peaceful. That is a big achievement. Sadly there is still conflict with the non members, but as a whole western Europe is really peaceful.
@@teaser6089 Actually after the conquest of Britain. You get a time period where the inner empire is peacefull militairy speaking. Only a few minor skirmishes with Barbarians but nothing else. When Rome split in two troubles began to rose again. Or am I missing something?
@@teaser6089 And yet it was on the news this week that we hit 1T for the first time this week lmao. Idk, believe the news with cited sources or some random comment.
Strength is in numbers, and for that reason the EU should grow, not schrink. If the EU would fall apart, we would be all play balls for Russia, China and the US. That can *NEVER* happen. I as a Dutch person live in Portugal where we receive more from the EU than we contribute. I can imagine that the Netherlands are sometimes wondering what the use of the EU is when we pay so much money. Well the fact that we CAN pay that much money is due to the EU. We need stability, no one will benefit from going back in time. Brexit anyone? I used to be in favor of referendums, but that was when I was young and naive. For the sake of stability in democracy, we need to vote only once every 4 years. We as a society cannot affort to sacrifice our stability and peace by te destructive force of populism. I surely hope that Geert Wilders will manage to form a government. Not because I like Geert Wilders, there are few people on this planet that I hate more than Geert Wilders. A man that has done literally NOTHING for the Netherlands in all those decades that he is in the parliament but costing a lot of tax money for personal security. He NEVER has taken responsibility and the only thing he has done, is make empty promises that mean nothing if you don't have to justify anything. I hope he will form a government to proove for once and for all that populism and xenofobia are NOT the answer. The answer is in making solid choices to build the country. Build houses, structure social security by making it fully transparent and eliminate bureaucracy. For every dumb rule we have, aks our selves, WHY do we have this rule and is it still required or are there other ways to achieve things. Social care that can only be funded by the government with your tax money because it is comercially not possible to finance it, should NOT be executed by privatized commercial institutions that are worried about their profit and year results. Those two cannot go together and will allways lead to extortion of either the vultnerable clients / patients, or the vulnerable workers that always have to do more with less. The government should be manageing what is not commercially viable, and keep their hands off of everything that is, unless it can make them a shitload of money to give back to the citizens. (I still don't understand why the Dutch government has chosen to make Shell rich with their gas and not exploit this to the full themselves to give it back to the people instead of making a few stock holders very very rich). So fuck Wilders, let him rule and fail, get over with it and then get back to normal business without Populist Wilders or other psychopath-narcissistic persons that dissatisfied underdevelloped people waste their right to vote on.
I agree 100% with you. The same happened in Italy. Here the far right continues to have a lot of support, but it seems that the more Eurosceptic positions have been abandoned. There are 2 far-right parties in government, fortunately the most pro-Putin party is the minority one, while the largest one has moved from post-fascist positions to simply conservative right-wing positions.
All remaining candidate counties are poor and require a lot of funding. Growing the eu means that we must pay more to the eu. Given the dutch are very conservative about their money, this is a hard ask. We are doing well, but it also came at a cost. When the switch to € was made, there was an instant inflation, because the guilder was valued too low. Later a lot of funding was needed to support the south of europe. I also heard rumors about the eu wanting to have access to (the dutch) retirement funds. We have a lot of migrants that have an impact om the housing market. So, there are people asking whether those payments to the eu are a good investment. Maybe there are ways to get more out of the cooperation. Like for germany building better railway connection to accomedate more transport by rail. Or other project that will need dutch expertise or businesses.
People voted for the PVV for a reason though. Look at why Norway made women’s rights classes compulsory for uslim immigrants. Look at what happened in Cologne, Germany in 2015 on New Year’s Eve night.
No we shouldn't, each nation should be it's own state. The EU was founded as an economic union, to promote trade and unify standards, not to become a federal state. Europe is nothing without it's diverse and strong national identities...
There needs to be much stricter mechanisms to deport illegal immigrants. however, even if nothing changes, NL is still better off within the EU than outside it. the loss of exports would be much larger than the cost of EU contributions. Even DE would not survive outside the EU if the rest of the block stays intact. an island of trade tariffs would make NL products completely uncompetitive within the EU. Parties like BBB would implode given how much dutch farmers export. if all their products are suddenly 2x as expensive, its game over
And what needs to change. It seems to me that a lot of people exclusively focus on immigration. I have nees for you: so are about every country in the world. And the PVV has never had a original idea for the past 20 years so I really don’t understand why anyone would vote for them. Really. There are so many parties with a real manifesto but no, we collectively vote for the most anti brainless party ( ok. FVD is way worse).
@ncrtrooper7648 - I can understand you both wanting Wilders and not wanting Nexit, but drastic change is not on the agenda and never will be, the EU is a political ideology masquerading as an economic bloc that does not do drastic change German deindustrialisation, a sanction-weakened European economy and the eventual fallout from the failed Project Ukraine are more likely to determine the EU's future than MEPs playing politics, but the Netherlands won't sink whether it is in or out
Most of the Dutch tolerate the EU and think it's good for practical reasons. Then there's some who seriously and passionately believe in the EU. The number of people who genuinely hate the concept of the EU is close to 0
@@krainex disliking and tolerating are not mutually exclusive. There's a lot to dislike about the EU, but understanding its use and the need for reform is different from wanting to destroy it
Great Video! Just a quick question, do we have any more information about the eu council vote about the treaty amendment? I know that it should take place in March but I couldn't find any exactly information about when the vote will take place. Do you have any more information about this vote?
The Netherlands thinks bigger than it is, it often wants to be the largest of all the smaller EU countries, in order to compete economically and politically with Germany, France and the UK. Dutch governments have always had the tradition of wanting to be the best in the EU. As soon as new EU rules were drawn up, the Dutch immediately adopted and implemented them. But then it often turns out that many other EU countries do not adhere to the rules, especially in the financial field, the Dutch feel cheated. And when the Netherlands then points out to other EU countries why they do not adhere to the rules, the Netherlands is extremely hated. Something the Dutch don't understand. The Dutch are very pro-EU, but would rather see countries that do not comply or cannot fulfill them to leave the EU. The Netherlands is always very strict when it comes to finances, their motto is often if there is no money, you can't spend anything. Many Dutch people also think that many subsidies to EU countries are not spent correctly and efficiently.
When you spend 7 billion euros more on the EU than you get out of it, it's kinda understandable you get a bit anal on finances with countries that, put very gently, don't quite have a similar financial discipline, isn't it? When certain countries keep messing up their financial households, the bill comes to lie with the net contributors. Fine if you have to pay that bill once, a second time becomes a bit annoying, and you're pretty much fed up with it after the third time.
Many Dutch people also think that many subsidies to EU countries are not spent correctly and efficiently. - We dont think this. We know this... Just look at the current coronabonds that are being distributed in Italy. Its a joke. Or the farmer subsidies in either Poland or Hungary...
@@jdjphotographynl You realize that certain nations never kept up their finance? (Italy, Spain) Some nations even lied about their finance... (Greece). So yeah. Its one big joke.
@@tim3440 Oh, I fully realise it's more likely I will become able to shit bricks of gold than that the likes of Greece, Italy, and Spain will ever get their finances properly sorted. But yeah, unfortunately we have passed the point of no return and we somehow have to make do with it now. We're too reliant on the EU to ever get out, so we will have to hope big time on reforms.
@@jdjphotographynl But yeah, unfortunately we have passed the point of no return and we somehow have to make do with it now. We're too reliant on the EU to ever get out, so we will have to hope big time on reforms. - This is just one big bunch of bollony (Bullshit). You can always get out and you are never 'too reliant'.
I do not think that the Netherlands stands to gain anything at all from leaving the EU. It's true, they are a net contributor to the EU. So what? They have a strong economy, and a strong economy needs a highly-skilled labour force. I am from Spain, and I am currently interviewing with a dutch company and it is highly probable that I will move to the Netherlands in the next month. My university education has been payed by the Spanish taxpayers, and I am autonomously learning the language even though it is not required for my job. I think it is fair enough, I do not want to live in Spain, I like the Netherlands as a country and if I do end up working there, I will pay my taxes, obviously.
Unless the EU will reform and enforce stricter monitairy discipline from the Southern European countries the Netherlands might start funding less projects. The South needs to stop being children and stop spending money they don't own.
I'm Dutch and very pro-EU. The EU is clearly the best way forward. The fact Poland gets the most out of the EU money is fine with me, now that Donald Tusk is back. The way Hungary acts as a pro-Putin entity drives me mad. Something should be done about it; we are all paying big money for this force towards anti-democratic, corrupt power.
It was only logical that the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg formed the Benelux (which is still effective, by the way) as we used to form one country.
I dont agree at all with Geert Wilders, but he won fair and square in the elections. It be would undemocratic to deny him the position that the majority of people here voted him in for.
As a Dutch i can confirm that a lot of Dutch don't agree about how you portrait our stance regarding the EU. With the statistical magic you do make it look differently than the actual reality.
@@ImreHardeman I could tell quite easilly the first time I watched one of his videos. Not saying his English is bad, on the contrary it is very understandable. But you can hear he is no native speaker
@@PSVfanaatHis channel info gives Germany as his location and his pronunciation of Saba is a bit odd, I have no idea where he’s from but Germany seems possible.
I was confused about this as well as the channel says germany but he doesnt sound german but rather slightly dutch. He might be dutch living in germany or smth.
If Netherlands is not a good match for the EU , then what ? Gypsyromania or Gypsyturkeybulgaria?😂 Netherlands has one of the most advanced economies worldwide and is a net contributor to EU budget,whilst the aforementioned gyspsy shantytowns just squander EU money without any benefit for the Union. Long live Netherlands and its people!
yeah but the entire time the Netherlands has been a contributing factor to Romania and Bulgaria not receiving money they should bc of the Schengen area, and Bulgaria is set to join the eurozone this year or next year. If you want to be racist and call us gypsies and Turks, I’d advise you not to hide behind the internet. Because we all know you favour other worse-off countries like Croatia in terms of gdp but not Bulgaria
Talks have already resumed for weeks. Today, the party leaders announced they will stay in parliament and will not become ministers or the prime-minister. Not the most up-to-date video.. at all.
Hey guys, not sure how it works but maybe you can try to get allowed the feature of automated dubbing on YT. I think for content like yours it makes the most sense for YT to test the feature (I think its still in Beta but Ive seen some videos with the automatic dub and its pretty good). Having videos adressing the EU being automatically dubbed into the diff languages would be truly amazing
The Senate (First Chamber of States-General) is not elected by local councils, but elected by the members of the twelve provincial councils (Provinciale Staten) and four electoral colleges for the Senate. Each provincial council and the electoral colleges for the senate has a weighted electoral vote based on population. Members of the provincial council are directly voted in place by inhabitants of those provinces, in the 4 yearly provincial elections.
Mark Rutte left one big mess behind in The Netherlands... The only real good thing he could do was pushing big problems forward... Until it bit him in the ass. Right now he tries to flee to the NATO. Honestly I hope the premier of Romania Iohannis will be the next NATO man... Mark Rutte has been a joke and this comes from a guy that voted for him and got lied to again and again.
Just to start off with: I'm a dutch, left leaning voter. In the last election, I voted for the pro-european centrist party Volt, and I did the same the election before. Personally I am of the meaning that the populist right movement of the netherlands is something that has no real ways to benefit either the citizens, the country at large, or even our standing within the EU. I'm afraid it'll only hurt it. 22 years ago, the last Left leaning dutch government was in power. And ever since, with a mostly right government, we've seen failings in our public transport getting way beyond expensive while most small towns are becoming disconnected from the network, our healthcare dwindling, hospitals closed en mass and more. The worst part is that all of this, the populist movements somehow blame on the "Left" parties, and social media websites like Facebook, Instagram and X make this sentiment all the worse by being a populist echo chamber. The public sentiment of a lot of "true dutch" people (Sadly including my family) is that the netherlands is being ruined by immigration and islam. But the only experience those people really have with that, is as said, their own preconceptions and the echo chamber that is social media. I think that in general, Social Media should be banned for the good of all countries because of the influence it has in pushing people to an extreme.
Personally I don't agree with the idea of abolishing social media, the problem is people, not the media. What people need to learn is to distinguish fake news from real news. The older generation is less likely to believe fake news because they struggle to distinguish good sources from bad ones. The idea of banning social media seems to me like burning the books in the novel Farenheit 451, we cannot be afraid that people will come into contact with certain ideas, we must ensure that people have the antibodies to be able to distinguish good from evil.
as someone who voted for VOLT; during recent elections, it saddens me to constantly see the amount of hate the EU receivers; Constant bickering amonst ourself because everybody thinks someone is being treated unfairly; nothing gets actually done & problems we're facing are rapidly growing out of proportion because of the constant disagreement amongst each other. The NL hosts too many political parties (this is due to my believes that it's too easy to create a political group) the centers don't get along with the left & the rights hate the left. It's mindbreaking sometimes; when someone thinks of left they think of immigration & climate change. When they think of right they think of people first & isolation; it always manages to suprise me how narrow minded the Dutch are on average. We as a whole can get so much more done if we were to close the political gap & would definitely improve living conditions... but maybe in 10 years. Dit houd niet in dat ik Nederland haat; ik ben gewoon wanhopig geworden van alle haat naar elkaar & kan het gewoon niet snappen, de ene focussed teveel op zwarte piet & de andere let teveel op immigratie.
Have you tried looking at the other side of the discussion? It looks like you just hate them to me, what makes you so different from the people you criticize?
nee linkse partijen zijn gewoon woke En rechts is agressief Mark en zijn coalitie 13 jaar hebben er voor gezorgd dat rechts is gegroeid in de laatste verkiezingen
You are right, the only reason why only one on four Dutchmen has chosen the PVV is the immigration issue. Bad luck. Paying a lot to the EU is the simple consequence of earning a lot as we have done for ages now. Only the short sighted do not understand that relationship. As far as further integration is concerned, that is unstoppable. Finally we shall have a federal Europe as Europeans like to have power. However, it shall have to be clear what we do together and what not. Good idea to start with the further integration of the Netherlands and Flanders to further secure the Dutch speaking influene in Europe. In the long run we shall speak of language and culture blocks doing lots of things together.
Venice of the North? I tend to describe it as 'Los Angeles of the Old World' Kidding aside, there is *no way* the Netherlands will part from the EU, or that Wilders will even suggest it again in the near future. There's way too much money at stake for business on every level ,and everyone is seeing the effects of Brexit. The only thing that Wilders, and subsequently his voters really want - is more say on a national level on particularly immigration policies, which are currently largely dictated by the EU.
The EU is extremely important for the Netherlands mostly economical more then anything. The Netherlands has since it's creation functioned almost more like a mercantile thing then a real government. We live in prosperity due to our exports, and then I do not just mean food or products or whatever but also "experts" and developments in many fields. Our economy and many other things are driven by the contact with other country's and by enlarge the EU. I see the payment we make almost like a global scale toll bridge. We would like many changes but our way of life is simply not supported without the EU so we cannot take to drastic actions. Being part of the EU does make us able to have a lightweight army budget for example, so it is not like a lot of the 7bil are not at least partially going directly back into the money pot.
11:00 how exactly this funds distributions works? Bc if this is based on GDP, Spain should be way higher than that. If GDP per capita is relevant, Luxembourg shouldn't be on that position either
The BES islands are part of the country of the Netherlands and don’t have much to do with the broader kingdom of the Netherlands. ( not more than say Eindhoven or any other municipality)
@albertdias87 - probably due to years of a diary-based diet that the EU -WEF are trying to ban in the hope that the Dutch will become more Micron and Tusk-sized in the interests of greater harmonisation
I always find that when it comes to pro EU or Eurosceptics, what really matters is what the public think and not what's going on in politics, the political side of things is always limited by what the public allows, being that the people of the Netherlands are pro EU and support in certain areas for more integration, will make it difficult for an Eurosceptic party to pull them out of the EU. Reforms are clearly needed on the EU, especially on the veto rules, As I can't see how the EU can expand with more members until there are changes to the veto rule or it's scraped, I also think further integration is going to be needed because of the political and economic realities of the changing world, as in, if we want to protect our political, economic and social interest, we need to find solutions to speaking more with one voice at an EU level, especially on military, defence and forign policy matters, but other areas like energy could be more streamlined. The real question is what reforms to do to the EU and how to go about it. Personally, I think more powers need to be given to the European Parliament, whereas the EU Commission and President should merge, maybe even be elected directly by the people, but I think the European Parliament should have more of a say as power is shared over far more people, making it democratic, whereas the current system of the EU Commission, feeds the Eurosceptics in making the EU look less democratic, and I think that is one area the EU needs to resolve, make the EU more democratic and more connected to the people so there is less ammunition for the Eurosceptic argument.
More power to European autocrats? Yeah no. We already have incompetent leaders in Europe... Please dont give them any more power... In The Netherlands we have a saying: If you fail in the corporate world you will go to national politics, and if you fail in national politics you will go to European politics, and if you fail in European poltics you will go to county politics... Giving European autocrats even more power is one big incompetent decision and will result in one big joke. Please no.
I understand that we in the Netherlands are a net contributor. But that is on face value only. Hidden benefits like the vastly increased trade through our harbours and airfield make us a benefitor in the end. No doubt. We just have a geographical advantage over other countries that way that uses all the benefits of the EU optimally. So i think it's rather well explainable we are a 'net-contributor'
Bulgaria and Romania are entering Schengen by air and sea March 31st of this year. Target date for land borders now is December 1st of this year according to some EU publications. That's the matter it yet should be discussed about, after EU elections in June.
@@BrandonBDNThat's true. The Netherlands is not an obstacle for Bulgaria and Romania to join Schengen anymore, just Austria. It was Austria which proposed so-called "air-Schengen" for them. It still vetoes removal of land borders.
NSC didnt run away. They are talking now and trying to form a coalition by speaking about the real stuff. First we had a wave of can this work? that were the first talks, second talks were about okay wich form? Now they are negotiating about the real stuff, the details, the agenda they gonna follow etc.
EU would be screwed without NL.The Dutch are the engine of industry, innovation, diplomacy, culture in EU, like Austria. Brussels has to listen to us people and stop immigration if it wants EU to stay resilient and stable. EU should learn from Hungary's projects helping young families which plan to have 3 children get housing and 7-seater car tax free help etc. Brussels is deaf and ignorant sometimes
EU was founded as an economic union and to stand strong together, but over the years it has changed to a political union where the dutch suffer from immensely, i am pro EU if it stayed as the former... if it stays as a political union im against it. i think this is what most people refer to when they mean they want a change in the EU.
geert wilders might want nexit, but the dutch know better. all we have to do is look at brexit. they are paying the price for being fooled by a politician. i wanna believe that my dutchies know better than to follow empty promises of a politician. also i take the train from Deventer to Germany to visit my aunts/uncles almost weekly i'd hate it if that process became a huge hassle because of Nexit. about the Netherlands spending the 3rd highest on EU, although it is a pretty high price. the benefits we get from trading within EU and the deals we can make because of it, make a pretty good return on our investments. all in all its a little high but still fair.
The Netherlands literally vetoes every proposal put forward by the EU and approved by all other EU members and they are consistently obstructing its development
yes yes this is just a small error that realy doesnt matter but im too autistic to let it go so honestly our neutrality in ww1 didnt work all that well it barely hold on brought us on the brink of war in 1918 so yea it worked well but not better than expected in many expects it even failed to meet expectations of the dutch atleast also yes this is a exuse to talk about the netherlands in ww1 :) the english wanted to invade is us at the end of 1918 thats why they took controll of a large part of our merchant fleet we constantly were undertreat from invasion from germany leading the line of death that was the dutch german border the economy broke under the millions of refugees we had to take care off it almost caused a famine and resulted in some light soviet uprisings that basicly didnt do much only lasted like a few days before being put down we had several clashes with german and english ships and other disagreements almost causing war several times
Dutch stayed neutral because joining was a lose-lose proposition. Joining the central powers meant losing the colonies and joining the allied powers meant losing the homeland. Are you familiar with The Great War channel here on YT? They had an interesting episode about the Dutch neutrality in WW1.
The Dutch in the Eu is like the Elves in Lord Of The Rings. People will hate or like the Netherlands, but the Dutch always try to do things that benefits everyone and try to help wherever possible by being innovative and contributing to things others wont dare to contribute too.
The shared monetary policy without strong political control will be problematic for the people in the Netherlands. It is far too tempting for EU governments to exceed spending agreements. Because doing so has electoral upside with little or no electoral downside. The result is systematic overspending in some countries. This incurred debt is partly shared by all EU nations through various ECB 'instruments'. One of the problems is that the ECB does not have any direct democratic oversight. Another is that you can't have shared debt without shared responsibility. The two solutions I see are directly opposed to each other. Either further political integration so that financially responsible governments get a say over the budget of less responsible governments. Or the opposite, where there is no further sharing of debt, and the ECB severely limits its interference.
7:32 sorry but what does “de-islamization” even means? Is the netherlands secretly a caliphate that imply The sharia ? ,or treating muslim citizens of the netherlands as Sub-humans is considered “de-islamization (Given that the netherlands has a rich history of treating Non-Whites as sub-humans) could you elaborate on this one?
Well we contribute far more relatively than much bigger countries thats unfair. And i think that the people who pay more should have a stronger say in what we pay our taxes for. Also we would like to be more in charge of our own borders or be more helped with all the refugees that come here.
I grew up in the east and left the country before covid. I'm disappointed that Geert Wilders will be taking over from Rutte, I liked Rutte a lot more then Balkenende. If Geert Wilder will steer the country in the direction he wants rather then what's best for the country I'd be impressed that he'd be capable of staying true to his word as I currently believe him to be full of hot air without any plans on how to make it a reality. I also have full confidence that the NL and the EU will be fine even in the worst of cases, there is very little that can disrupt our little utopian corner. To me the NL is paradise on earth, nowhere else compares to the flat home and I hope I'm still allowed back in later ;)
Since the Netherlands entered the European Union... the Netherlands has been in financial difficulties... our money goes all over the world and most of it goes to that corrupt Ukraine... and the Dutch have payment problems... it is difficult for the Dutch to pay their bills and groceries
Thx.. I am a Dutch viewer.. and agree on it that only ca 25% of the Dutch voted on the populist freedom party, maily due to kick away to the sitting neat parties.. But mainly Dutch people like the EU, acknowledge the benefits as to their Open Economy and very needed trade settelments, are tolerant, want to invest in climate change stopping, is pro-Oekraine.. but as there are 2 important crises the Nitrogen and house crisis for many years not dealt with, they voted angrily as punishment against their parties this time and the very low educated anti-democratic one-issue party (kicking foreigners / Islam and like spreading hate) is for the first and hopefully the last time the largest, now is upfront.. No educated smart citizin wants this 'Wild-man' as our representive.. But he won't be neither thanks to smart-ass Omzigt of the NSC party and their will be a mild government.. Good for the EU ans all Dutch people also..
rutte goverment building affordable housing 😂😂😂😂 made me laugh, housing price doubled during rutte dictatorship. somebody didnt do their research at all
indeed, you didn't research it at all. In the official policy of the VVD is that they want cheaper housing. Not that they did it successfully but still, they "officially" want it.
@@hjvddThey literally privatized the entire housing sector and letting the market take complete control. Which is why there is a housing crisis right now. You clearly didn't do your research, just because they say they wanted it in their propaganda (honestly every party says this in their propaganda, or what you call "policy") doesn't mean they actually want it. The VVD is a party for a free market, business owners and board room members. Not in the slightest for people who need affordable housing or any social structure. The VVD is in the middle of dozens of scandals including ignoring people falsely being labled as fraud by the tax office, ignoring the people in Groningen talking about earthquakes caused by gas installations, not doing jackshit for climate change until a JUDGE FORCED THEM to do so. So maybe do some more research and not tell us, the people who had to live with this shit for the last 13 years, how they "want it".
@@hjvdd Yeah it's funny how everyone keeps blaming the VVD, when you know they were in a government with multiple other parties that have equal blame to take but never get equal the blame...
@@tim3440 Well tell us, if you intend to deny the problems with having the extremely large influx of international students then don't tell us anything
@@tim3440 perhaps it refers to the controversy of courses in English, while they would like to have more courses in Dutch. Which as an Italian almost makes me laugh since here courses in English are the exception and not the rule, but this has never caused major problems. I can try to hypothesize that even if the Dutch have a very good command of English, with academic terms (which in English are mostly of Latin derivation) things may change, the opposite of what happens in Italy where the English academic terms they are among the simplest, while colloquial English is very difficult.
I truly believe your opinion at the end of the video is spot on and will be very similar to Belgium after the elections. The current migration policy has always been a hot potato topic that a lot of people feel like it hasn't been handled well. And it will have repercussions for the current policy makers. Don't get me wrong, some migration is definitely needed, not in it's current form. Just like I'm not opposed to the EU, in the contrary even, we need less tribalism and need more EU by continuously reshaping it.
True. Immigration is definitely an important topic. Just look at what happened in Cologne Germany 2015 on New Year’s Eve. Look at why Norway made women’s rights classes compulsory for uslim immigrants. It’s why people have been voting for people like Meloni or le pen or afd or PVV or Sweden democrats
i think it's only fair to be a net contributor, what do they think it means to bring more and more poorer countries into the European family? countries they can rely after for exports, cheap qualified labour. And no one has ever successfully explained to me why they keep "stealing" billions in taxes from the other EU countries attracting most of the biggest American companies. so, they will keep paying their share, unless they want to follow uk's example and get all the American companies out, and a hard border and so on
1:40 Did you even do your research bro? The Dutch weren't overwhelmed in 5 days, Rotterdam was bombed which is why we surrendered, but the Grebbelinie was not overwhelmed and would have been able to keep the Germans out for weeks, which is why the Germans bombed Rotterdam in the first place... My god man this channel has some serious quality control issues.
The Benelux was the first European Union between nations in Europe.
Depending on definitions maybe. My candidate would be the Kalmar Union of the 1400s, but I find it likely that there are earlier ones.
Then maybe Poland-Lithuania union which formally dates to 1569, but one could argue that it started in 1370… a tiny bit older.
@@romanplays1Of which no other country other than France itself voluntarily joined.
Military conquest doesn't count. But thanks for the metric system and the code Napoleon, mon ami.
It started with the Benelux, look it up. London Customs Convention on wiki.
BeNeLux later became European Coal and Steel community joined by France, Italy, and West Germany leading to the EU today.
Austria-Hungary, was one of the role models of EU... it was two countries with theeir own government but with common defence, monetary and forein policy
Comments getting silly. The Kalmar Union and Poland-Lithuania are examples of personal unification (i.e. the unification of multiple monarchies due to a single person carrying multiple titles), which has nothing to do with the will of the people.
Also, the Continental System is another name for the Continental Blockade that Napoleon tried to impose on the British. Surely you just mean the First French Empire, that is, all the countries conquered by Napoleon in which he installed puppet monarchs, united under the French flag... which is unification through conquest and has nothing to do with the will of the people.
The Benelux was a customs union and an intergovernmental co-operation made up of democratic countries. It was the live test of many principles we see in the European Union today. It has several intergovernmental institutions which regulate co-operation in various fields including infrastructure, trade, energy, intellectual property rights, and many more. Plus, it remains intergovernmental, which is to say, all participants keep their sovereignty. Which can't be said for unification through conquest OR personal unification.
As an Italian and a strong pro-European I can partially understand the discomfort that the Dutch have in paying for funds that are misused in other European countries. In Italy a famous Facebook page that denounces the bad way in which European funds are spent is called "things that Dutch taxpayers can't wait to pay"
So I believe that there should be funds for less developed countries, but at the same time it is good to make sure that they are spent well.
The Dutch can't wait to leave the EU.
Only PVVers not the DUTCH, @@markknoop6283
@@markknoop6283 no, don't lie
@@thomasmerlin4990 if we count the people that voted for political parties that support a nedxit. Then we have more then 50%
@markknoop6283 Until you tell them they can't buy cheap fuel across the border anymore, heavy fireworks or we get even more congestion, because of border checks. Or that the agricultural sector is going to collapse without the labor force that's from across the EU. Then suddenly people want to stay.
Actually, the Dutch Senate is elected by the 12 Provincial Parliaments.
It used to be, but there are now also the island municipalities and special representatives from abroad voters.
@@SpeedBird6780 It still is regardless of those added
I'm from Enschede, about the 17th or 18th largest city of the Netherlands, and it's on the border with germany. Together with a handful of other municipalities from the netherlands and from Germany they formed the Euregio. from a young age, about 8, I moved from the netherlands to the first village over accross the border. I went to school in NL, then in DE, then in NL again (the base language is kinda important to follow a suitable level of education). For many many years on my moped i crossed the border 4 times a day 6 days a week. This Euregio concept of municpalities and regional governments forming cross-national institutions has been implemented so far about in 80 instances accross Europe!
During the chaotic first quarantiens of the pandamic, this piece of border remained uniquely open and free due to communication between Enschede and Münster being better than between between enschede and The Hague, and between Münster, Onsabruck and their respective federal state capitals.
The idea that the prospering netherlands (who historically have extracted so so much wealth from the world) is paying the EU an unreansably amount seems silly to me. It surely must be less than the wealth granted by access to the single market and Schengen. But even if it were, helping the rest of europe prosper, will only help us out in the long term, especially in a multipolar geopolitical landscape where a tiny nations such as the netherlands would certainly find itself on the receiving side of what we have economically dealt out historically....
The netherlands, within the quasi-federation that is the Benelux (to which Nord-Rhein Westphalen was in on the earliest formation talks, in order to join) within the something inbetween confederation-federation that is the European union, sown tightly through Euregions, would be absolutely devestated upon leaving the EU.
My hometown, to which masses of german tourist flock weekly, on to where thousands commute to for work or study from germany, would be economically and socially devestaded to a similiar scale as to when the textiles industry moved over seas or when the allies accidentally bombed it (they thought they were already flying over germany, navigating by stars and the lights of ciies) if we the netherlands left the EU.
Fun fact, Gelderland comes from the German town Geldern, it was part of the Duchy of Geldern's area which nowadays is Gelderland and Nord-Rhein Westphalen. While Geldern used to be the capital this was later changed to the larger city of Arnheim.
I imagine your native language is Low German.
@@Jalmaan fun fact: in Italian the word "Geldria" is used for both Gelderland and the city of Geldern. So it seems strange to have a German city with the same name as a Dutch province.
I’m from Ahaus right across the border from Enschede. In which Municipality did you go to school, I didn’t know that this was easily possible 👍🏻
i agree that the amount of spending is not an issue, and is largely beneficial to everyone. Most people take issue seeing the aid money being wasted. To them it feels like they work hard and get taxed a lot, but the aid money gets pissed in the wind when it arrives.
I visited Sint Eustatius and Saba a few years ago. Beautiful places and wonderful people, I hope they will become EU citizens within 20 years, along with all the French oversea islands. ❤❤❤
They already are EU citizens by default due to having the dutch nationality
@@ld9124 I mean that I would like them to be part of the Union as is already the case with the French overseas departments.
How is that gonna happen?@@thomasmerlin4990
Sure. Africa, India, Middle East, Americas (including but not limited to the USA) shall join the EU as well !!🤣🤣
I visited Bonaire, Curacao Sintmaarten and Saba a few years ago! Couldnt visit Sint Eustatius and Aruba due to covid. You can only get to Saba with a certain small propeller plane since the landing strip is only like 80 metres long. Bonaire is my favorite island of the bunch
The Netherlands is a key member of the EU. One of the first countries to realize that we can not be isolated from our neighbors after WWII and we see that the majority of the population wants common political agenda in major EU issues. Something that more countries need to recognize before it's too late.
And it will be the second country to realize they don't want to be occupied by an all encompassing European state, and leave.
@@Trazynn It won’t. We’ve seen what the Brexit has done to the British economy and the Netherlands is even more dependent on inner EU-trade.
@@TrazynnIt's economical suicide. Rotterdam will be completely abolished when leaving the EU making Antwerpen probably the new Rotterdam. Export from our farmers will be crippled entirely (60% is export, and you can expect that to be reduced by over half). Our fishermen won't be able to fish in common waters anymore. Closed borders will cripple our already massive workers shortage. All with all, it makes 0 sense to leave the Union.
Looking at the UK most people who voted in favour feel betrayed by Boris Johnson's promises and see Brexit as a complete failure.
@@roy_hksit will, Immigration and endless rules will cause a lot more damage. Switzerland is doing fine, if we do it smart we'll be even better off.
@@erik7853 Immigration hasn’t caused any real damage so far. The only economic damage we’ve seen from immigration are due to strict labor rules applying to refugees put in place by our right-leaning government. That’s fully unrelated to the EU. Not only that, our economy has grown and our crime rates have dropped significantly despite our increase in migrant-population percentages (26% as of today). The whole idea that immigration is killing our country is a populist illusion based on misinformations and hyperboles based on exceptions like Ter Apel.
The Netherlands also doesn’t suffer a lot from EU laws. With western European countries having the most influence on EU lawmaking most new laws and regulations are in line with existing Dutch policies and mainly target southern and eastern European countries to close the gap in wealth and progressivism between the east and west.
Let’s stop wondering about this question. NL cannot survive 1 year without EU. Also, they were among the first founders of EU. So no matter what, the Dutch love EU. 🎉
Right. We could do exactly the same as Luxembourgh. Plus being part of Schengen and being part of the EU are 2 different things ;)
@@tim3440What are you even talking about?
Luxembourgh IS in the EU. What exactly could we "do exactly the same as them"?
Countries can't be in Schengen if they're not in the EU. They're not the same thing but one is a prerequisite for the other.
@NLTops they can actually... Looks at Switzerland
@@erik7853 That's a shallow basis for an argument. Switzerland (And Norway) are in Schengen because they accept the jurisdiction of the ECJ and submit themselves to a wide range of EU regulations. They are EU rule takers even if they aren't members.
Also you didn't answer my question.
@@NLTops My bad, Luxembourgh had to be Switzerland. Countries cant be in Schengen if they're not in the EU? Right.
You can do anything. You realize the EU is just a political project?
Like thinking one comes with the other is a mistake.
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I'm Dutch and I am pro EU. Because my intrest in History I figured out that since the fall or the roman empire Europe was in contant turmoil till the end of WW2. Yeah the cold war happened but no real big conflicts arose when the EU was formed between its members. Its expansion meant that more nations actually became more peaceful. That is a big achievement. Sadly there is still conflict with the non members, but as a whole western Europe is really peaceful.
Which is why war broke out with the Brits as soon as the UK left...
You must have fallen asleep during History lessons, because Europe during the Roman Empire was also in constant turmoil lol.
@@teaser6089 Actually after the conquest of Britain. You get a time period where the inner empire is peacefull militairy speaking. Only a few minor skirmishes with Barbarians but nothing else. When Rome split in two troubles began to rose again. Or am I missing something?
@@Trazynn Hello Infinite, trolling again? 😏
I hope not pro D66 or Pro volt.. Other than that pro eu is fine
3:19 we have hit a 1T economy since a few days ago btw.
We hit 1T years ago, we are already up to 1.3T
@@teaser6089 And yet it was on the news this week that we hit 1T for the first time this week lmao. Idk, believe the news with cited sources or some random comment.
Nice video!
thanks man!
Strength is in numbers, and for that reason the EU should grow, not schrink. If the EU would fall apart, we would be all play balls for Russia, China and the US. That can *NEVER* happen.
I as a Dutch person live in Portugal where we receive more from the EU than we contribute. I can imagine that the Netherlands are sometimes wondering what the use of the EU is when we pay so much money. Well the fact that we CAN pay that much money is due to the EU. We need stability, no one will benefit from going back in time. Brexit anyone?
I used to be in favor of referendums, but that was when I was young and naive. For the sake of stability in democracy, we need to vote only once every 4 years. We as a society cannot affort to sacrifice our stability and peace by te destructive force of populism. I surely hope that Geert Wilders will manage to form a government. Not because I like Geert Wilders, there are few people on this planet that I hate more than Geert Wilders. A man that has done literally NOTHING for the Netherlands in all those decades that he is in the parliament but costing a lot of tax money for personal security. He NEVER has taken responsibility and the only thing he has done, is make empty promises that mean nothing if you don't have to justify anything.
I hope he will form a government to proove for once and for all that populism and xenofobia are NOT the answer. The answer is in making solid choices to build the country. Build houses, structure social security by making it fully transparent and eliminate bureaucracy. For every dumb rule we have, aks our selves, WHY do we have this rule and is it still required or are there other ways to achieve things. Social care that can only be funded by the government with your tax money because it is comercially not possible to finance it, should NOT be executed by privatized commercial institutions that are worried about their profit and year results. Those two cannot go together and will allways lead to extortion of either the vultnerable clients / patients, or the vulnerable workers that always have to do more with less.
The government should be manageing what is not commercially viable, and keep their hands off of everything that is, unless it can make them a shitload of money to give back to the citizens. (I still don't understand why the Dutch government has chosen to make Shell rich with their gas and not exploit this to the full themselves to give it back to the people instead of making a few stock holders very very rich).
So fuck Wilders, let him rule and fail, get over with it and then get back to normal business without Populist Wilders or other psychopath-narcissistic persons that dissatisfied underdevelloped people waste their right to vote on.
Obrigado!
Yes
I agree 100% with you. The same happened in Italy. Here the far right continues to have a lot of support, but it seems that the more Eurosceptic positions have been abandoned. There are 2 far-right parties in government, fortunately the most pro-Putin party is the minority one, while the largest one has moved from post-fascist positions to simply conservative right-wing positions.
All remaining candidate counties are poor and require a lot of funding. Growing the eu means that we must pay more to the eu. Given the dutch are very conservative about their money, this is a hard ask.
We are doing well, but it also came at a cost. When the switch to € was made, there was an instant inflation, because the guilder was valued too low. Later a lot of funding was needed to support the south of europe. I also heard rumors about the eu wanting to have access to (the dutch) retirement funds. We have a lot of migrants that have an impact om the housing market.
So, there are people asking whether those payments to the eu are a good investment. Maybe there are ways to get more out of the cooperation.
Like for germany building better railway connection to accomedate more transport by rail. Or other project that will need dutch expertise or businesses.
Chill
I think we should do more with the EU, I’m very pro-EU and I’m worried about our next coalition
Weird...
People voted for the PVV for a reason though. Look at why Norway made women’s rights classes compulsory for uslim immigrants. Look at what happened in Cologne, Germany in 2015 on New Year’s Eve night.
@@ecnalms851 +1
En mensen houden van een simpel populistisch verhaal
No we shouldn't, each nation should be it's own state.
The EU was founded as an economic union, to promote trade and unify standards, not to become a federal state.
Europe is nothing without it's diverse and strong national identities...
Make a video about the Baltics in the EU, I want to know how they have developed.
There may or may not be something in the works already 👀
He's planning for a video about every EU member if I remember correctly, so the Baltics definitely will come at some point.
@@MDP1702 That's obvious. The question is when.
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All Netherlands people want UK rejoin to EU 🙏🏻🇳🇱🇬🇧🇪🇺
Leugens xd
why is that?
Only if and when they meet the Copenhagen Criteria are met unconditionally, not a second earlier.
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ASML wants to leave. Their CEO hates Wilders.
@@Trazynn No they said they are looking to expand outside of NL, not move out of NL lol
Nexit!
@@TrazynnI don’t think Wilders will be PM. He’s hated by too many parties.
as a dutchman that voted for Wilders, i don't want a Nexit, the EU doesn't need to go, it needs to drastically change.
Do you agree that the word "Pragmatic" is the right word to describe EU-Dutch relations?
There needs to be much stricter mechanisms to deport illegal immigrants. however, even if nothing changes, NL is still better off within the EU than outside it. the loss of exports would be much larger than the cost of EU contributions. Even DE would not survive outside the EU if the rest of the block stays intact. an island of trade tariffs would make NL products completely uncompetitive within the EU. Parties like BBB would implode given how much dutch farmers export. if all their products are suddenly 2x as expensive, its game over
@@SpeedBird6780 pragmatic would be a correct term. it's unrealistic to get rid of the most unified europe that it's ever been.
And what needs to change. It seems to me that a lot of people exclusively focus on immigration. I have nees for you: so are about every country in the world. And the PVV has never had a original idea for the past 20 years so I really don’t understand why anyone would vote for them. Really. There are so many parties with a real manifesto but no, we collectively vote for the most anti brainless party ( ok. FVD is way worse).
@ncrtrooper7648 - I can understand you both wanting Wilders and not wanting Nexit, but drastic change is not on the agenda and never will be, the EU is a political ideology masquerading as an economic bloc that does not do drastic change
German deindustrialisation, a sanction-weakened European economy and the eventual fallout from the failed Project Ukraine are more likely to determine the EU's future than MEPs playing politics, but the Netherlands won't sink whether it is in or out
When a party calls themselves "the party for Freedom" it generally means that someone loses their freedom.
Just like countries with “democratic” in their name.
They’ve all got something to prove apparently.
Same as when they use "Democracy" (like Forum for Democracy, an ultra right-wing party in The Netherlands)...
the dutch love the EU!
Some of them anyway...
Most of the Dutch tolerate the EU and think it's good for practical reasons. Then there's some who seriously and passionately believe in the EU. The number of people who genuinely hate the concept of the EU is close to 0
@@achilleskoliakis9288According to the above video 27% dislikes the eu
@@krainex disliking and tolerating are not mutually exclusive. There's a lot to dislike about the EU, but understanding its use and the need for reform is different from wanting to destroy it
No we don't. Some do. Some don't. We're not a hivemind.
Great Video!
Just a quick question, do we have any more information about the eu council vote about the treaty amendment?
I know that it should take place in March but I couldn't find any exactly information about when the vote will take place.
Do you have any more information about this vote?
are you from the netherlands yourslef because your pronouncation of dutch sounds and words is perfect
Lachen, Brugge heeft ook heeft ook Venetië van het Noorden als bijnaam 😅
Stockholm wordt ook wel vaker zo genoemd, het is geen unieke bijnaam...
Excellent commentary.
The Netherlands thinks bigger than it is, it often wants to be the largest of all the smaller EU countries, in order to compete economically and politically with Germany, France and the UK.
Dutch governments have always had the tradition of wanting to be the best in the EU. As soon as new EU rules were drawn up, the Dutch immediately adopted and implemented them. But then it often turns out that many other EU countries do not adhere to the rules, especially in the financial field, the Dutch feel cheated. And when the Netherlands then points out to other EU countries why they do not adhere to the rules, the Netherlands is extremely hated. Something the Dutch don't understand.
The Dutch are very pro-EU, but would rather see countries that do not comply or cannot fulfill them to leave the EU. The Netherlands is always very strict when it comes to finances, their motto is often if there is no money, you can't spend anything. Many Dutch people also think that many subsidies to EU countries are not spent correctly and efficiently.
When you spend 7 billion euros more on the EU than you get out of it, it's kinda understandable you get a bit anal on finances with countries that, put very gently, don't quite have a similar financial discipline, isn't it?
When certain countries keep messing up their financial households, the bill comes to lie with the net contributors. Fine if you have to pay that bill once, a second time becomes a bit annoying, and you're pretty much fed up with it after the third time.
Many Dutch people also think that many subsidies to EU countries are not spent correctly and efficiently. - We dont think this. We know this... Just look at the current coronabonds that are being distributed in Italy. Its a joke. Or the farmer subsidies in either Poland or Hungary...
@@jdjphotographynl You realize that certain nations never kept up their finance? (Italy, Spain) Some nations even lied about their finance... (Greece). So yeah. Its one big joke.
@@tim3440 Oh, I fully realise it's more likely I will become able to shit bricks of gold than that the likes of Greece, Italy, and Spain will ever get their finances properly sorted.
But yeah, unfortunately we have passed the point of no return and we somehow have to make do with it now. We're too reliant on the EU to ever get out, so we will have to hope big time on reforms.
@@jdjphotographynl But yeah, unfortunately we have passed the point of no return and we somehow have to make do with it now. We're too reliant on the EU to ever get out, so we will have to hope big time on reforms. - This is just one big bunch of bollony (Bullshit).
You can always get out and you are never 'too reliant'.
Excellent writing and explanation, thoroughly enjoyed watching!
it feels like you're either Dutch or Flemish speaker. I'm right?
it seems like it to me too.
I do not think that the Netherlands stands to gain anything at all from leaving the EU. It's true, they are a net contributor to the EU. So what? They have a strong economy, and a strong economy needs a highly-skilled labour force. I am from Spain, and I am currently interviewing with a dutch company and it is highly probable that I will move to the Netherlands in the next month. My university education has been payed by the Spanish taxpayers, and I am autonomously learning the language even though it is not required for my job. I think it is fair enough, I do not want to live in Spain, I like the Netherlands as a country and if I do end up working there, I will pay my taxes, obviously.
Feel free to hit me up if you want to learn Dutch. A skilled individual is always welcome. Better than leeches.
Unless the EU will reform and enforce stricter monitairy discipline from the Southern European countries the Netherlands might start funding less projects.
The South needs to stop being children and stop spending money they don't own.
Please take Spanish weather with you
Oh and don't forget to eat frikandelbroodjes and stroopwafels
@@tieshartog9645 The only good thing we've got lol. That and Spanish literature, if you're into it.
I'm Dutch and very pro-EU. The EU is clearly the best way forward. The fact Poland gets the most out of the EU money is fine with me, now that Donald Tusk is back. The way Hungary acts as a pro-Putin entity drives me mad. Something should be done about it; we are all paying big money for this force towards anti-democratic, corrupt power.
It was only logical that the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg formed the Benelux (which is still effective, by the way) as we used to form one country.
I dont agree at all with Geert Wilders, but he won fair and square in the elections. It be would undemocratic to deny him the position that the majority of people here voted him in for.
As a Dutch i can confirm that a lot of Dutch don't agree about how you portrait our stance regarding the EU. With the statistical magic you do make it look differently than the actual reality.
Very good pronunciation, I almost couldn't tell if you were Dutch or not.
He clearly is.
@@PSVfanaat He hides his accent really well then.
@@ImreHardeman I could tell quite easilly the first time I watched one of his videos. Not saying his English is bad, on the contrary it is very understandable. But you can hear he is no native speaker
@@PSVfanaatHis channel info gives Germany as his location and his pronunciation of Saba is a bit odd, I have no idea where he’s from but Germany seems possible.
I was confused about this as well as the channel says germany but he doesnt sound german but rather slightly dutch. He might be dutch living in germany or smth.
If Netherlands is not a good match for the EU , then what ? Gypsyromania or Gypsyturkeybulgaria?😂
Netherlands has one of the most advanced economies worldwide and is a net contributor to EU budget,whilst the aforementioned gyspsy shantytowns just squander EU money without any benefit for the Union.
Long live Netherlands and its people!
yeah but the entire time the Netherlands has been a contributing factor to Romania and Bulgaria not receiving money they should bc of the Schengen area, and Bulgaria is set to join the eurozone this year or next year. If you want to be racist and call us gypsies and Turks, I’d advise you not to hide behind the internet. Because we all know you favour other worse-off countries like Croatia in terms of gdp but not Bulgaria
Ranting about nothing lol come out of the bubble, you’re sinking just like the other countries around you like Germany
Greetings from Aruba 😃
Talks have already resumed for weeks. Today, the party leaders announced they will stay in parliament and will not become ministers or the prime-minister. Not the most up-to-date video.. at all.
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Mentally disabled?? °° Dude the EU is exterminating your species ...
Hey guys, not sure how it works but maybe you can try to get allowed the feature of automated dubbing on YT. I think for content like yours it makes the most sense for YT to test the feature (I think its still in Beta but Ive seen some videos with the automatic dub and its pretty good).
Having videos adressing the EU being automatically dubbed into the diff languages would be truly amazing
The Senate (First Chamber of States-General) is not elected by local councils, but elected by the members of the twelve provincial councils (Provinciale Staten) and four electoral colleges for the Senate. Each provincial council and the electoral colleges for the senate has a weighted electoral vote based on population.
Members of the provincial council are directly voted in place by inhabitants of those provinces, in the 4 yearly provincial elections.
I'm for a European Federation
Hope next video to be about France or Italy.
Mark Rutte will somehow be missing. As a German, I'm not so well versed in Dutch politics, but for me he was the national face.
Mark Rutte left one big mess behind in The Netherlands... The only real good thing he could do was pushing big problems forward... Until it bit him in the ass. Right now he tries to flee to the NATO.
Honestly I hope the premier of Romania Iohannis will be the next NATO man... Mark Rutte has been a joke and this comes from a guy that voted for him and got lied to again and again.
He is not really going away tho, He is gonna replace Stoltenberg as Secretary-General at NATO.
You can take that trash prime minister to Germany we don’t want him over here !
Just to start off with:
I'm a dutch, left leaning voter. In the last election, I voted for the pro-european centrist party Volt, and I did the same the election before.
Personally I am of the meaning that the populist right movement of the netherlands is something that has no real ways to benefit either the citizens, the country at large, or even our standing within the EU. I'm afraid it'll only hurt it.
22 years ago, the last Left leaning dutch government was in power. And ever since, with a mostly right government, we've seen failings in our public transport getting way beyond expensive while most small towns are becoming disconnected from the network, our healthcare dwindling, hospitals closed en mass and more.
The worst part is that all of this, the populist movements somehow blame on the "Left" parties, and social media websites like Facebook, Instagram and X make this sentiment all the worse by being a populist echo chamber.
The public sentiment of a lot of "true dutch" people (Sadly including my family) is that the netherlands is being ruined by immigration and islam. But the only experience those people really have with that, is as said, their own preconceptions and the echo chamber that is social media.
I think that in general, Social Media should be banned for the good of all countries because of the influence it has in pushing people to an extreme.
Personally I don't agree with the idea of abolishing social media, the problem is people, not the media. What people need to learn is to distinguish fake news from real news. The older generation is less likely to believe fake news because they struggle to distinguish good sources from bad ones. The idea of banning social media seems to me like burning the books in the novel Farenheit 451, we cannot be afraid that people will come into contact with certain ideas, we must ensure that people have the antibodies to be able to distinguish good from evil.
as someone who voted for VOLT; during recent elections, it saddens me to constantly see the amount of hate the EU receivers; Constant bickering amonst ourself because everybody thinks someone is being treated unfairly; nothing gets actually done & problems we're facing are rapidly growing out of proportion because of the constant disagreement amongst each other. The NL hosts too many political parties (this is due to my believes that it's too easy to create a political group) the centers don't get along with the left & the rights hate the left.
It's mindbreaking sometimes; when someone thinks of left they think of immigration & climate change. When they think of right they think of people first & isolation; it always manages to suprise me how narrow minded the Dutch are on average.
We as a whole can get so much more done if we were to close the political gap & would definitely improve living conditions... but maybe in 10 years.
Dit houd niet in dat ik Nederland haat; ik ben gewoon wanhopig geworden van alle haat naar elkaar & kan het gewoon niet snappen, de ene focussed teveel op zwarte piet & de andere let teveel op immigratie.
Have you tried looking at the other side of the discussion? It looks like you just hate them to me, what makes you so different from the people you criticize?
@@the11382 What?
dat is zeker waar, voor mij geldt bijna hetzelfde kwa mening
nee linkse partijen zijn gewoon woke
En rechts is agressief
Mark en zijn coalitie 13 jaar hebben er voor gezorgd dat rechts is gegroeid in de laatste verkiezingen
Honestly my friend VOLT is the biggest joke in the whole of Dutch politics... VOLT are traitors to the Dutch people. Even worse than D66 or VVD.
7:44 i’m onboard with stricter immigration rules but nexit, Hell no.
They are allready quite strict
You are right, the only reason why only one on four Dutchmen has chosen the PVV is the immigration issue. Bad luck. Paying a lot to the EU is the simple consequence of earning a lot as we have done for ages now. Only the short sighted do not understand that relationship. As far as further integration is concerned, that is unstoppable. Finally we shall have a federal Europe as Europeans like to have power. However, it shall have to be clear what we do together and what not. Good idea to start with the further integration of the Netherlands and Flanders to further secure the Dutch speaking influene in Europe. In the long run we shall speak of language and culture blocks doing lots of things together.
Venice of the North? I tend to describe it as 'Los Angeles of the Old World'
Kidding aside, there is *no way* the Netherlands will part from the EU, or that Wilders will even suggest it again in the near future. There's way too much money at stake for business on every level ,and everyone is seeing the effects of Brexit. The only thing that Wilders, and subsequently his voters really want - is more say on a national level on particularly immigration policies, which are currently largely dictated by the EU.
Is it me or did you skipped estonia and germany from the list you showed in previous videos?
It's a minority that wants to stay within the EU.
The France financial problems still need to be revealed.
6:40 Point of attention: Last weekend all those parties reclused themselves to continue negotiations, this included the NSC as well
@polyliker8065 Im really curious what would happen if a re-election is needed.
The Netherlands is ace, they just get on with things and those things actually work really well.
The EU is extremely important for the Netherlands mostly economical more then anything. The Netherlands has since it's creation functioned almost more like a mercantile thing then a real government. We live in prosperity due to our exports, and then I do not just mean food or products or whatever but also "experts" and developments in many fields. Our economy and many other things are driven by the contact with other country's and by enlarge the EU. I see the payment we make almost like a global scale toll bridge. We would like many changes but our way of life is simply not supported without the EU so we cannot take to drastic actions.
Being part of the EU does make us able to have a lightweight army budget for example, so it is not like a lot of the 7bil are not at least partially going directly back into the money pot.
The Netherlands favors EU, but not without a doze of skepticism..
We are definitely a high asset of the EU..
No,no,no lets get out of the EU and save some money.
11:00 how exactly this funds distributions works? Bc if this is based on GDP, Spain should be way higher than that. If GDP per capita is relevant, Luxembourg shouldn't be on that position either
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The BES islands are part of the country of the Netherlands and don’t have much to do with the broader kingdom of the Netherlands. ( not more than say Eindhoven or any other municipality)
You forgot England also a strong neighbor and friend of The Netherlands 🇳🇱❤️🏴
Why are the Dutch.. the tallest of the people as to the rest of EUROPE?
in theory the tallest in stature are the Dinarics, but it is a region between Croatia, Bosnia and Blackmountain.
@albertdias87 - probably due to years of a diary-based diet that the EU -WEF are trying to ban in the hope that the Dutch will become more Micron and Tusk-sized in the interests of greater harmonisation
I always find that when it comes to pro EU or Eurosceptics, what really matters is what the public think and not what's going on in politics, the political side of things is always limited by what the public allows, being that the people of the Netherlands are pro EU and support in certain areas for more integration, will make it difficult for an Eurosceptic party to pull them out of the EU.
Reforms are clearly needed on the EU, especially on the veto rules, As I can't see how the EU can expand with more members until there are changes to the veto rule or it's scraped, I also think further integration is going to be needed because of the political and economic realities of the changing world, as in, if we want to protect our political, economic and social interest, we need to find solutions to speaking more with one voice at an EU level, especially on military, defence and forign policy matters, but other areas like energy could be more streamlined.
The real question is what reforms to do to the EU and how to go about it.
Personally, I think more powers need to be given to the European Parliament, whereas the EU Commission and President should merge, maybe even be elected directly by the people, but I think the European Parliament should have more of a say as power is shared over far more people, making it democratic, whereas the current system of the EU Commission, feeds the Eurosceptics in making the EU look less democratic, and I think that is one area the EU needs to resolve, make the EU more democratic and more connected to the people so there is less ammunition for the Eurosceptic argument.
More power to European autocrats? Yeah no. We already have incompetent leaders in Europe... Please dont give them any more power...
In The Netherlands we have a saying: If you fail in the corporate world you will go to national politics, and if you fail in national politics you will go to European politics, and if you fail in European poltics you will go to county politics... Giving European autocrats even more power is one big incompetent decision and will result in one big joke.
Please no.
Hell nooo, most people in NL voted on rightwing geert wilders (Pvv) who actually is anti EU. We want less EU bureacrats deciding about our country.
I understand that we in the Netherlands are a net contributor. But that is on face value only. Hidden benefits like the vastly increased trade through our harbours and airfield make us a benefitor in the end. No doubt. We just have a geographical advantage over other countries that way that uses all the benefits of the EU optimally. So i think it's rather well explainable we are a 'net-contributor'
Bulgaria and Romania need to be allowed into the Schengen.
Bulgaria and Romania are entering Schengen by air and sea March 31st of this year. Target date for land borders now is December 1st of this year according to some EU publications. That's the matter it yet should be discussed about, after EU elections in June.
The Netherlands is no longer blocking either, it is now only Austria
@@BrandonBDNThat's true. The Netherlands is not an obstacle for Bulgaria and Romania to join Schengen anymore, just Austria. It was Austria which proposed so-called "air-Schengen" for them. It still vetoes removal of land borders.
NSC didnt run away. They are talking now and trying to form a coalition by speaking about the real stuff. First we had a wave of can this work? that were the first talks, second talks were about okay wich form? Now they are negotiating about the real stuff, the details, the agenda they gonna follow etc.
EU would be screwed without NL.The Dutch are the engine of industry, innovation, diplomacy, culture in EU, like Austria. Brussels has to listen to us people and stop immigration if it wants EU to stay resilient and stable. EU should learn from Hungary's projects helping young families which plan to have 3 children get housing and 7-seater car tax free help etc. Brussels is deaf and ignorant sometimes
EU was founded as an economic union and to stand strong together, but over the years it has changed to a political union where the dutch suffer from immensely, i am pro EU if it stayed as the former... if it stays as a political union im against it. i think this is what most people refer to when they mean they want a change in the EU.
The Netherlands actually surpassed the 1 trillion mark for their GDP a few weeks ago.
geert wilders might want nexit, but the dutch know better. all we have to do is look at brexit. they are paying the price for being fooled by a politician. i wanna believe that my dutchies know better than to follow empty promises of a politician.
also i take the train from Deventer to Germany to visit my aunts/uncles almost weekly i'd hate it if that process became a huge hassle because of Nexit.
about the Netherlands spending the 3rd highest on EU, although it is a pretty high price. the benefits we get from trading within EU and the deals we can make because of it, make a pretty good return on our investments. all in all its a little high but still fair.
The Netherlands literally vetoes every proposal put forward by the EU and approved by all other EU members and they are consistently obstructing its development
Im from the netherlands and i am neutral about the EU I do think that its kinda holding us back a little bit
yes yes this is just a small error that realy doesnt matter but im too autistic to let it go so
honestly our neutrality in ww1 didnt work all that well
it barely hold on brought us on the brink of war in 1918
so yea it worked well but not better than expected in many expects it even failed to meet expectations of the dutch atleast
also yes this is a exuse to talk about the netherlands in ww1 :)
the english wanted to invade is us at the end of 1918 thats why they took controll of a large part of our merchant fleet
we constantly were undertreat from invasion from germany leading the line of death that was the dutch german border the economy broke under the millions of refugees we had to take care off
it almost caused a famine
and resulted in some light soviet uprisings that basicly didnt do much only lasted like a few days before being put down
we had several clashes with german and english ships and other disagreements almost causing war several times
wat lul je, Nederland heeft gigantisch veel geld verdient in WW1 voornamelijk door de verkoop van drugs aan beide kanten.
Dutch stayed neutral because joining was a lose-lose proposition. Joining the central powers meant losing the colonies and joining the allied powers meant losing the homeland. Are you familiar with The Great War channel here on YT? They had an interesting episode about the Dutch neutrality in WW1.
The Dutch in the Eu is like the Elves in Lord Of The Rings.
People will hate or like the Netherlands, but the Dutch always try to do things that benefits everyone and try to help wherever possible by being innovative and contributing to things others wont dare to contribute too.
The shared monetary policy without strong political control will be problematic for the people in the Netherlands. It is far too tempting for EU governments to exceed spending agreements. Because doing so has electoral upside with little or no electoral downside. The result is systematic overspending in some countries. This incurred debt is partly shared by all EU nations through various ECB 'instruments'. One of the problems is that the ECB does not have any direct democratic oversight. Another is that you can't have shared debt without shared responsibility. The two solutions I see are directly opposed to each other. Either further political integration so that financially responsible governments get a say over the budget of less responsible governments. Or the opposite, where there is no further sharing of debt, and the ECB severely limits its interference.
7:32 sorry but what does “de-islamization” even means? Is the netherlands secretly a caliphate that imply The sharia ? ,or treating muslim citizens of the netherlands as Sub-humans is considered “de-islamization (Given that the netherlands has a rich history of treating Non-Whites as sub-humans)
could you elaborate on this one?
Well we contribute far more relatively than much bigger countries thats unfair. And i think that the people who pay more should have a stronger say in what we pay our taxes for. Also we would like to be more in charge of our own borders or be more helped with all the refugees that come here.
I grew up in the east and left the country before covid. I'm disappointed that Geert Wilders will be taking over from Rutte, I liked Rutte a lot more then Balkenende. If Geert Wilder will steer the country in the direction he wants rather then what's best for the country I'd be impressed that he'd be capable of staying true to his word as I currently believe him to be full of hot air without any plans on how to make it a reality.
I also have full confidence that the NL and the EU will be fine even in the worst of cases, there is very little that can disrupt our little utopian corner. To me the NL is paradise on earth, nowhere else compares to the flat home and I hope I'm still allowed back in later ;)
SImple, dutch people cant pay the bills and we are tired of paying for other peoples problems.
Since the Netherlands entered the European Union... the Netherlands has been in financial difficulties... our money goes all over the world and most of it goes to that corrupt Ukraine... and the Dutch have payment problems... it is difficult for the Dutch to pay their bills and groceries
Thx.. I am a Dutch viewer.. and agree on it that only ca 25% of the Dutch voted on the populist freedom party, maily due to kick away to the sitting neat parties.. But mainly Dutch people like the EU, acknowledge the benefits as to their Open Economy and very needed trade settelments, are tolerant, want to invest in climate change stopping, is pro-Oekraine.. but as there are 2 important crises the Nitrogen and house crisis for many years not dealt with, they voted angrily as punishment against their parties this time and the very low educated anti-democratic one-issue party (kicking foreigners / Islam and like spreading hate) is for the first and hopefully the last time the largest, now is upfront.. No educated smart citizin wants this 'Wild-man' as our representive.. But he won't be neither thanks to smart-ass Omzigt of the NSC party and their will be a mild government.. Good for the EU ans all Dutch people also..
You forgot to tell how pro Ruzzian the PVV is.
rutte goverment building affordable housing 😂😂😂😂 made me laugh, housing price doubled during rutte dictatorship. somebody didnt do their research at all
indeed, you didn't research it at all. In the official policy of the VVD is that they want cheaper housing. Not that they did it successfully but still, they "officially" want it.
@@hjvddThey literally privatized the entire housing sector and letting the market take complete control. Which is why there is a housing crisis right now. You clearly didn't do your research, just because they say they wanted it in their propaganda (honestly every party says this in their propaganda, or what you call "policy") doesn't mean they actually want it. The VVD is a party for a free market, business owners and board room members. Not in the slightest for people who need affordable housing or any social structure. The VVD is in the middle of dozens of scandals including ignoring people falsely being labled as fraud by the tax office, ignoring the people in Groningen talking about earthquakes caused by gas installations, not doing jackshit for climate change until a JUDGE FORCED THEM to do so.
So maybe do some more research and not tell us, the people who had to live with this shit for the last 13 years, how they "want it".
@@hjvdd Yeah it's funny how everyone keeps blaming the VVD, when you know they were in a government with multiple other parties that have equal blame to take but never get equal the blame...
@@teaser6089 this indeed
Geert Wilders is truly just the Donald Trump of the netherlands.
The Netherlands used to be a better place when it was the Batavanian Republic.
0:48 18mil people by now
I think most of the Dutch wants to leave the eu including me
Sounds like they’ll succumb in weeks in wartime.
Asking people if they want "change" is an insultingly meaningless question.
The 1957 model is the best.
Can you talk about the Dutch University crisis?
Like what? As a Dutch student I can tell you anything you want to know.
@@tim3440 Well tell us, if you intend to deny the problems with having the extremely large influx of international students then don't tell us anything
@@teaser6089 What is the question.
@@tim3440 perhaps it refers to the controversy of courses in English, while they would like to have more courses in Dutch. Which as an Italian almost makes me laugh since here courses in English are the exception and not the rule, but this has never caused major problems.
I can try to hypothesize that even if the Dutch have a very good command of English, with academic terms (which in English are mostly of Latin derivation) things may change, the opposite of what happens in Italy where the English academic terms they are among the simplest, while colloquial English is very difficult.
@@tim3440 I'm a an American living in the Netherlands. I know about the situation, but I do not really understand what's going on.
"Venice of the North" -Very true. Now they all fled to Singapore. The Dutch don't have an economy at all at this point. -Stop lying!
I truly believe your opinion at the end of the video is spot on and will be very similar to Belgium after the elections.
The current migration policy has always been a hot potato topic that a lot of people feel like it hasn't been handled well. And it will have repercussions for the current policy makers.
Don't get me wrong, some migration is definitely needed, not in it's current form. Just like I'm not opposed to the EU, in the contrary even, we need less tribalism and need more EU by continuously reshaping it.
True. Immigration is definitely an important topic. Just look at what happened in Cologne Germany 2015 on New Year’s Eve. Look at why Norway made women’s rights classes compulsory for uslim immigrants. It’s why people have been voting for people like Meloni or le pen or afd or PVV or Sweden democrats
dude, it's so funny how you speak nearly without an accent and then Boom, eert fucking Wilders like a Dutchmen
Haha. I guess that gave it away ;)
i think it's only fair to be a net contributor, what do they think it means to bring more and more poorer countries into the European family? countries they can rely after for exports, cheap qualified labour. And no one has ever successfully explained to me why they keep "stealing" billions in taxes from the other EU countries attracting most of the biggest American companies. so, they will keep paying their share, unless they want to follow uk's example and get all the American companies out, and a hard border and so on
ARUBA MENTIONED WHAT THE FUCK IS HAVING MULTIPLE ECONOMIC PILLARS RAAHHHH
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Did you even do your research bro?
The Dutch weren't overwhelmed in 5 days, Rotterdam was bombed which is why we surrendered, but the Grebbelinie was not overwhelmed and would have been able to keep the Germans out for weeks, which is why the Germans bombed Rotterdam in the first place...
My god man this channel has some serious quality control issues.
Can the EU be trusted??
Common EU policy yes but under a right wing EU majority.
Nexit!! 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
Tbh I never hear anything about the caribean islands
NETHERLANDS 🇳🇱
- Capital: Amsterdam
- United Nations: 10/12/1945
- NATO: 04/04/1949
- European Union: 18/04/1951
- OECD: 13/11/1961
- Schengen Area: 26/03/1995
- Eurozone: 01/01/2002
The call for EU reform grows ever more
Netherlands: The Sea's greatest enemy