A few viewers have asked how you can just wash off sunscreen with water as Dr Frey suggested she does. I emailed her to ask about it and have included her response below : ) Dr Frey said: Your viewers asked a great question. Topical skincare products do not build up on the skin. The cells on the skin surface are in a constant state of desquamation. In addition, sunscreen application, assuming the person applied the product liberally, has only been shown to last 6 - 8 hours, based on science. (This doesn't include if the person wearing it is sweating, swimming or wiping it off during sport in which case it lasts for a much shorter period of time, probably less than 2 hours.) With that being said, most people apply their sunscreen in the morning. The majority of folks don't reapply. Those who do reapply, usually do so midday. Since the sunscreen only remains on the skin surface for 8 hours, a nightitme facial wash with water at bedtime is all that I recommend. And I have no scientific proof that washing just with water is even necessary. I never use a cleanser and I apply sunscreen every morning and most afternoons. If an individual wishes to wash their face with a soap-free cleanser in the evening to remove the dirt, oil, sebum, and every bit of any topical product they had applied that day, that's fine. But there is no scientific proof that it 's necessary. Keep in mind they will also be removing the vital lipids and proteins that are necessary to keep the skin hydrated. Unfortunately, cleansers are drying. They are designed to remove things and they don't discriminate. They remove the unwanted and wanted particles on the skin. Hope this answers your question.
Actually, it’s still does not. I do reapply sunscreen, true it is mid day when I do so, but it definitely is still on my skin at the end of the day. I can see it on my washcloth when I wash my face. And water is definitely not enough to get it off. I feel like if I did not take it off completely that it would be unhealthy to leave it on my skin. It definitely does not absorb into the skin. It lays on the top of the skin. I use natural mineral sunscreen. I use the tinted version on my face. I use the untinted for my neck and décolleté. Neither product comes off without soap. Thank you very much for the reply, though. I was definitely curious what would be said.
@Mary Faulkner What about burns leading, potentially, to skin cancer? I agree that sunlight can help some ppl with depression. While being out in the sunshine is naturally uplifting, I understand it is the sunlight entering the eyes where receptors help the brain make chemicals (hormones?) that are necessary to combat depression. I’m not medically trained, but I think Andrew Huberman has a video on the connection. That said, I believe limited sun exposure W/O sunscreen is reasonable barring sunburns.
I actually use sunscreen OBSESSIVELY, especially after my dermatologist attributed my fairly young-looking skin to my diligent sunscreen use. I really don’t mess around. So, for me, there IS a SERIOUS build-up on my skin after 6-8, .5 teaspoon applications of tinted, mineral-based sunscreen by the end of the day! It’s to the point where it’s a chore getting it off and I even end up just leaving some of it on me as a result. Oh well. Can it really hurt? I don’t know. I am going to try different products to help remove it, as I think leaving it on can block other actives like a tretinoin product from getting fully absorbed into the skin. Aside from that, the skin has to BREATHE. I got the sunscreen application routine pretty much down. It’s the sunscreen REMOVAL that I don’t yet have down. I mean, it’s a mess - it’s all in my ears, behind my ears and even in my hairline. I can see why people do not use enough sunscreen often enough!
I been using Tretinoin for 5 years and I can honestly say i look younger at 58 than when i was 48..it's taken years off my face, I've never had any adverse reactions including peeling but, I'm an exception to the rule. That being said, i used retinol prior to Retin A, and also had great results but, know your ingredients and sunscreen diligently. Great interview Claire 😊
My friends has ONLY used water and sunscreen on her face for over sixty years and she is gorgeous. My grandmothers used Ponds cold cream tissued off at night and a cold water splash in the morning. They all looked beautiful. I have travelled third world countries where the women do not have skin care routines and do not eat processed foods. Again- they look beautiful.
I discovered Pond's Cold Cream wayyyy back in the early 70's (I'm 68). I would smear it all over my eyes to melt my waterproof mascara; I'd wipe it off after an hour, and noticed over the years it was great for eye wrinkles. I'd wake up in the morning and my skin was soft and plumped. Now that I'm nearly 70 and my skin has become drier, I put it all over my face and neck at night, and by morning it's soft. People always tell me I look very young for my age too.
I’ve only used water and made my own creams ( Shea, coconut, rose hips etc) for years. No face make up. I’ve been careful about sun exposure more often than not. I only smoked very little till the age of 32 and I quit. My 67 yo skin looks like crap. I’m sorry I didn’t take a more aggressive approach to skin care earlier.
I have simplified too. Just kept the micellar water to take off eye makeup. Then sunscreen in the day, and Cerave cream at night. That's it. I am 74, and have skin as good as my mother had who only put on Ponds cream every day and looked great. Celtic skin.
She makes a lot of good points about taking a more holistic approach to skincare. One point I disagree with-I do think it’s important to use cleanser if you’re using sunscreen daily.
My sunscreen is definitely still visible on my face since I apply twice a day. I cannot go to sleep with all of that on there! I do a double cleanse and that doesn’t dry out my skin at all. I do use mostly mineral sunscreens so it is easy to see on my face.
I love this Dr. She is absolutely spot on. I quit working in high end/prestige beauty because of all the bs playing on consumers insecurities to make $. I now work in a drugstore selling inexpensive skincare. And I can tell you from my own experience that I saw better results with these products than with the pricey ones. I dont know how I feel about not using a cleanser as I have to with the make up I wear. I do tell all my customers that if you're not going to wear sunscreen than you're just wasting your money on other skincare. Love this video/interview.
Thank you for this very informative video. What was omitted, however, and what generally is omitted in the many conversations about the pros and cons of tretenoin use, is that one can use non prescription versions of retinoids (retinol, for example, found in many relatively inexpensive products) which, although they take considerably longer for notable effects, can really help (in my experience, at least) with the fine lines and lack of skin elasticity inherent in aging, with significantly fewer side effects. I am 73 years old and have used sunscreen on my face and neck 365 days a year for more than 30 years. I briefly tried retin A in my late 40s but stopped because of impatience with redness and dryness. My skin remained very youthful in appearance with just daily SPF and moisturizers as needed, but I did notice some fine lines 5 -6 years ago and decided to add retinol at first daily and now 4-5 times a week. The lines vanished over a one year period and, in all honesty, my skin continues to look remarkably young. It does not appear that my facial skin has aged at all in 5 years.I suspect retinoid products may do a better job moderating change for people without severe signs of aging than in correcting deep wrinkles and significant aging, but I don't know if studies have looked at that specifically. Just my thoughts, but I am also an MD and have done some study review.
Good point and it is one that is made by Dr Qian Xu who has appeared on my channel a few times. Her protocol is to start off with tretinoin and then step down to a higher strength retinol.
@Dolores Leonard. You have done exactly what I have done for 40 years. I discovered sunscreen in 1980 and can quite categorically say I have never gone a day without using it on my face. I am 70 and my skin is line free. I have an 11 between my eyebrow but everything else is good. I have used Retin A on and off since 1989, sometimes going for years without but the last 5 (like yourself) 4 or 5 times a week. The best I have found by a mile is the L'Oreal Pure Retinol Serum. It's amazing. The last few months I have also been using Adipeau as I noticed small indentations in the centre of my cheeks. The Adipeau is filling these out. It does seem quite remarkable. But the only thing I would keep of choice is the SPF 50. That is the Holy Grail. Every day all the way!
@@acechadwick Try a silicone patch at night on the 11. I think they help train your facial muscles also, not to over emote, during the day. Another little trick I found is the inexpensive plastic "retainer" on cheap whitening products. It gives definition back to the area surrounding the mouth! Tho whitening effects are dubious lol.
I know I’m a little late with my comment. This was a fantastic video. Very informative. I would love to get Dr. Frey’s opinion about skin supplements like OneSkin and DNA recovery like Photozyme MD. And all of the other products that the beauty industry is shoving down our throats. I hope she comes back. I love your channel, and I am a subscriber.
I’ve used tretinoin for 10 yrs. I think probably most people can’t push pass the beginning of using tretinoin because of irritation and flacking of the skin. Takes time and determination to adjust to it, but when the results begin to happen it is well worth it. My skin is thick, pores don’t exist and not one age spot on my face and neck.
tretinoin is amazing it takes the dead skin off fabulously. I used it very sparingly around my eyes and I don't have deep eye wrinkles now and I'm in my 70's. I think if you mix it with moisturizer it's less harsh.I started using it in my teens because I had bad acne.Very pricey in a tube now.
So true 😂. I would be in my office meeting coworkers and just by talking and moving my face muscles my face would peel lol. I stuck through it 8 years later, I alternate between Differin which is a lot cheaper and over the counter.
This doctor is 100% correct! I worked for The Journal of Drugs in Dermatology and know some of the best derms in the world. MANY use very little on their skin aside from sunscreen. They understand that the skin's microbiome and Ph is self regulating and, aside from inflammatory conditions, should not be disturbed. I have been told many times by derms that they would never advise their skincare routine to their patients. Most simply use an oil to cleanse and sunscreen. I always found this comment strange.
Dear Clare - I couldn't love this interview and/or subject any more! 100% on point! I think it is so imperative to truly understand that ultimately skin health is part of whole body health. And much like you and Dr. Frey touched on, the saying "you are what you eat" most definitely applies to skin as well!! I know personally, my skin is infinitely better when I skip sugar for a couple of days. I will never understand how people take a drug (steroids) for a side effect from another drug (tretinoin). But I think that speaks volumes to the marketing power of pharma. And understanding that inflamation is the number one cause of skin aging, why would anyone do this to their skin? Sun damage also is simply inflammation caused by the sun. That is why sun protection is so important. I am now 54, and went on this journey about two years ago. I think I mentioned to you on another one of your posts about Dr. Julia Hunter, and her "whole"istic approach. Her philosophy and attitude towards skincare and marketing is exactly this! All about tested, clean, healthy and healthful ingredients. About treating the body as a whole, including nutrition and excercise, as well as mental health and stress relief! I was such a skincare junkie, always on the hunt for the next great 'IT' product. About a year ago, over a few days I binge watched her YT channel, all her videos that speak of the relation of our diet to our skin, the harmful ingredients in many high priced, and also many so called 'clean' brands. Just submerged myself in exactly this subject. ... For the past year, I have used her products exclusively, and my skin has never looked or felt better. I do also use Truth Treatments 5% Retinol serum twice a week. I would love for you to take the "sunscreen" subject a little further. There has been quite a bit of recent (or recently published) research of especially chemical sunscreens being more damaging than beneficial. I personally have only used physical suncreens for the past two years, and would never put a chemical on my skin ever again. One step further would be the research that it is because of our diet that we even need sunscreen in the first place. The additives in our food that make us susceptible, and that centuries ago people did not need sunscreen, because the food was so rich in antioxidants, minerals and vitamins. ... Truly mind blowing when you start down the rabbit hole :) Dr. Hunter actually also mentions some of the brands that are listed on Dr. Frey's site as having some toxic ingredients. So that would be a whole other video. Thank you for providing actually valuable content! I think we all need to realize what a privilege aging HEALTHFULLY is. Our skin is our largest organ, and it is imperative that we feed it with care.
@@SleeplessinOC I don’t use sunscreen every day - and that’s a whole other discussion about researching the sunscreen debate. When I do, I use Plumscreen fro Le Prunier. Some of the zinc and titanium in some physical sunscreens can also be harmful. Plumscreen is the only thing other than home made that I will use. Truth Treatments also has an excellent ZnO Block. It doesn’t say that it’s a ‘sunblock’, but that’s what it is. Hope this helps. Best of luck
My mother used a flannel and water, nothing else to clean her face and a moisturiser. Her favourite was olay and when she died at 83 ,she NEVER had one wrinkle! She always said to me don't waste your money. It's interesting isn't it. Me on the other hand have tried everything to no real advantage. 😊
Thank you Clare, another take on aging, I find it informative and I'm glad I found you. I'm almost 58 and I've been using spf every day for about 10 years now, before that only on holidays. But eventually I got the "message" and raised my 24 year old daughter with spf every day. My pick is LaRochePosey anthelios 50+ uv mune 400.
Thanks Marleen. I've known for years that it's important but I think I'm only just beginning to realise just how important it is - and what a massive difference it can make when it comes to anti-aging for our skin. You've done the right thing by raising your daughter to wear it daily. Wish I had used it when I was younger.
I am 55 and I’m mistaken constantly for 40 . I have hardly ever washed my face with cleansers. I’ve sometimes used oils to clean or a mud mask when I know I’ve used non water soluble product. I eat really well , intermittent fast and work out. My favorite skin product that has actually visibly done something is Adipeau and my favorite product I trust is helping is SPF . I never used it when I was younger but I believe it’s never too late to start and it will all make a difference. Side note : I look younger now than I did in my 40s . Your channel is amazing and I love that you find amazing experts that bring out their truths even though it may go against the grain. How else are we to continue progressing?
I wasn't blessed with good aging genes, and I can say the Adipeau is the only (non SPF) product that's made any improvement. It's a really great product that I would never have known about, if not for Clare/Honest Channel. 😊
Hello Clare from Illinois, U.S.A. I'm a new subscriber who has been using various sunscreens for 49 years. When I was twenty, I read an article in one of my mother's magazines that described the discovery about daily sunscreen use as an aging preventative. I'm now 69 and people are shocked when they find out how old I am. In the 70's, all I had was Coppertone SPF 4, so I used that on my face every morning under my makeup. I have used Eucerin Daily sunscreen lotion, SPF 30, for years. It is the only thing I put on my face in the morning under my makeup, mostly due to its non-irritating, lightweight and silky texture. The real key to choosing products is how they make your skin feel. We need things that we will happily and consitently use.
Thanks Clare, that was just what I needed to hear. I have had persistent perioral dermatitis and I decided to try leaving my skin alone. I haven’t cleansed or put anything on my face for two days and my skin is looking so much better! The amount of products out there is overwhelming and I have shifted my focus to sleep, exercise, diet and stress management. I agree with Dr Frey about laughter ❤😂
This is so sensible. I just started watching skincare videos and they all seem like salespeople to me. No one mentions all the ingredients. I mix olive oil and sugar and only use that on face and body to cleans, never soaps. I experimented with oils and found some I love: apricot oil, jojoba, coconut, cocobutter, etc. No fancy concoctions with chemicals for me. Common sence.
I loved this program and could not admire and respect Dr. Frey more; she is a true scientist with integrity. I appreciate Dr. Frey's discipline, no nonsense approach and honesty.
This was SO illuminating! I tried Tret for several years off and on, and it only disrupted my skin and caused worse hyperpigmentation and sensitivity. I’m now trying to correct issues I didn’t have before starting. Thank you for this interview🙂.
This is a great piece Clare!! ❤ Very timely to listen to when being bombarded by all the black friday specials. I have saved it and will revisit it so that I can be more thoughtful with my future skincare purchases. The pull of all the promises and claims is so strong!!!
I thought the same thing...I was shocked when she said her age. I could not stop staring at her youthful neck and chest -not in a weird way, just admiringly as my poor, southern california, 58 year old neck looks NOTHING like hers.
I’m a Tretinoin (rx) fan girl. It reversed all the lines & discoloration from using tanning beds & sunbathing since my early 50s. Am 60 now and I credit careful use of tret for my youthful-again complexion- plus ceasing tanning & faithful application of LRP sunscreens- 40 SPF or higher. I do need gentle cleansers twice a day since I STILL have oily skin…otherwise my skin breaks out. At 60 ugh.
Thank you for these interviews and for your investigative work, Clare. This is my favorite skincare channel (and there are a lot to choose from). Please keep the good and varied information coming. I’m a big fan.
Fabulous interview. We need to start loving how healthy ageing naturally looks. I think a healthy, confident, ageing lady is more beautiful than someone lacking confidence and obviously had loads of work and looks stretched and lifted. Natural is perfectly beautiful! And the interviewer is beautiful at 50! Thank you….your channel is amazing!
This was so interesting, Clare! While I agree that sunscreen protects against photoaging, what about those of us who did not have effective sunscreens in our childhood? I played outside year 'round, got burned in the summer frequently, and have wrinkly spotty skin to show for it. I started using weak SPF when they became available, so since my 30s I've been religious about SPF. I'm so confused now if there is anything I can do to make it look better at 75. Regarding cleansing, if we use a lot of mineral SPF and water-resistant SPF, don't we have to use a cleanser to get it off? Or, are we supposed to just build up layers and layers of SPF over the years? What about using oil to break up water-resistant SPF and tinted SPF-- is that out the window, too? Oh so many questions! I bought her book. Thank you for searching for interesting people to interview!!!
Glad you found the interview interesting. I should have asked her which sunscreen she uses and if she just washes it off with water. I will email her with the question though!
@@thehonestchannel Hey Claire, I Love your channel! Would you possibly review mineral sunscreens from companies that are ONLY Cruelty Free please? And maybe some from lesser known, small businesses. And also one's that don't have ANY crap ingredients like methyl/propyl/ parabens, or silicone? And maybe recommendations of one's best for day-to-day, limited sun exposure, & other's more suited to for a long day of sun exposure? I find it Really disheartening that MANY, if not MOST beauty vloggers review makeup & skincare products that aren't cruelty free, yet have pets, that apparently they love; there is this disconnect to the pain & suffering of animals that are so CRUELY used in the testing of these products. The ONLY beauty vlogger that I am aware of that has Banned reviewing ANY Non-Cruelty free product is Elle Leary. If EVERY beauty influencer banned together & Flat out Refused to review Any Non-Cruelty Free product, the industry would be FORCED to change, & change Quickly! This day & age they absolutely rely on beauty influencers to sell their products. If EVERY influencer was made to watch a video on the HEINOUS ABUSE these animals suffer, I don't think that ANYONE would be able to live with their conscience knowing that they were helping to aid & abett this Torturous Cruelty! It's pretty interesting that your guest points to more evidence about how there is really no True scientific evidence that confirms that Tretinoin is actually the "Gold Standard". "Someone" made that up apparently, & everyone has bought it, hook, line, & sinker! I would however, like to know more about the efficacy a Phyto Retinol, like backuchiol. I just don't understand how plain water is supposed to fully take off makeup & sunscreen!? That, I don't buy...but if it works for her, then great.
@@thehonestchannel Yes, please! That was my nr 1 question too. I understand a lot of people do use micellar water to remove their sunscreen but is regular water after that enough? I also use jojoba oil at night over my moisturizer which really helped my dehydrated skin, I am not sure if simply water will get rid of the leftover oil on the skin in the morning. It would be very helpful what her answer is on this topic!
@@CherylBerryl I hear you Cheryl. I mentioned at the end of the video the vegan mineral sunscreen I'm currently using by Versed. I think it's excellent.
I appreciate your bringing her to us, but I'm going to take my own advice on this one. I'm 56 and always mistaken for younger than that and can definitely see the difference even 0.025 tretinoin makes in my skin. It is definitely smoother with less blotchiness, and I get hardly any flaking so long as I use a moisturizer over it that is made for dry skin. I may only do it for a year, since I understand you get maximum effect in about that time, but may decide to just keep going since the only downside is not being able to use an even stronger active like glycolic acid those nights I use tret. I have a feeling this doc wouldn't want us using the acids either, so no way to get ahead there. But yes, most of the youthfulness I display now comes from many years of avoiding most sun damage. You can definitely see the spots on my skin where I wasn't doing a good job due to how straw hats were rubbing off the sunscreen without providing complete coverage to that area. It's just that going forward, I'm at an age where more is needed for repair, not just prevention. And I definitely notice that I get clogged pores, bumps, and blackheads if I don't wash with a facial cleanser at least once a day to get off the grime and products from the day. I can at least appreciate her minimalist stance though, being sure to ask ourselves what's actually making a difference for us and focusing just on that. I'm finding more and more things that make a difference these days, based on having enough damage to see improvements being made. I tried a new product combo this weekend that blew me away. It was one sent to me for free with a Medicube device I bought. I now don't want to ever be without that combo, which completely eliminated my forehead wrinkles overnight. Not permanently, but I'd never seen where you do something one day then wake up the next day with absolutely smooth skin where it used to be a bit crepey. I give this as an example to say, let the games continue.
I have heard that Bakuchiol and also rose hip seed oil have similar benefits as retinoids without any irritation. Does anyone know if this is true? If sunscreen is applied to the hands, does it need to be reapplied every time you wash your hands? What are some good sunscreens? Can anyone recommend?
I have used trenoin for 5 years. It completely changed my skin and took wrinkles away from my face. It took about ten months to get used to I started with a very low dose and I'm only at .50 , but it's done the trick for me 19:35
@TheHonestChannel I'm so grateful for the simple yet wonderful information. I've been buying expensive creams etc. Just sunscreen and a simple moisturizer sound so freeing. I'll probably keep using the tretinoin because I'm probably the 10% it works for. Bless you for helping us !
Sunscreen no matter whether its mineral or chemical, when used on my face, it makes my eyes nearly jump out of their sockets. Also, what do you use when the damage is already done?
Gill what works for me is: Take the sunscreen up to the bone under the eye socket and then I use Burt Bees 40% zinc diaper cream (which doesn't sting around the eyes). It's a phenomenal sunblock but it does leave a white cast. However I then put make up on top and you can''t see it.
Very very interesting! Thank you for lifting the heavy load from our shoulders . Honestly my grandmother never used anything on her face apart from an olive oil home made soap ( very Lebanese )and she was glowing till the last minute of her life .
Same wih my Greek aunty, Her skin was divine even in her 80s. I haven't been too fussy either, until recently when everything has become a fad. Although always tried to use moisturisers without chemicals which brings me to the subject of sunscreens, don't most of them have yukky chemicals inside? I've just started with sunscreen and just turned 60. But told I look late 40s. In Asia we cant get tretinoin so I use a French brand A313. No irritation whatsoever. I think it's another kind of retinol which is much more gentle and doesn't make my skin sag like the harsh one from boots, No. 7.
You know she's right about sunscreen 110%. My skin never looked better until I started using a quality sunscreen 46 spf. Skin care has become a business pure and simple.
I wash my hands with soap/cleanser. Why wouldn't I do the same with my face? I use a mild cleanser to remove dirt, pollution, etc. I guess she never rode the subway in New York.
The doctor has good points. I see improvement using tret because maybe I have problems more than just for anti aging benefit to begin with. And don't forget the genetic part. For those blessed people, they can go minimalist. It does not really apply to me. I was minimalist for more than 20 years enough to see the damage and seek help from skincare products.
As a child I recall being told that I looked too pale and go and get some sunshine. Result...sunburn in the short term and now in my 60s, photo damage, wrinkles and I look closer to 80. I use it now every day. Wish we even had it when I was a kid. Great interview. Thank you.
Wow - thank you for doing this interview. She was so informative and you are always a delight. I would like to hear what she has to say about skincare with active ingredients - things like peptides and growth factors and vitamins, though I suspect she would say something like “if you like them, use them, but only drugs approved by the fda can actually treat a skin condition” but we know that salicylic acid treats acne. I realize I’m sounding argumentative - and that’s not my intention at all - I just need to hear a meaningful discussion about how we might use these over the counter products to enhance skin health going beyond beauty. I do appreciate you and the experts you interview very much.
Ida Hardy: "I just need to hear a meaningful discussion about how we might use these over the counter products to enhance skin health going beyond beauty." You'll find everything you would want to know via Dr Dray's channel.
@@violetviolet888 I’m familiar with that doctor’s channel, and of course Doctorly and dr Sam something, Dr Young, Dr Rajani, and dr Shereen - there are lots of dermatologists and plastic surgeons who don’t have other people on their channels to have discussions and debates. One of the things I really love about the Honest Channel is the host is a journalist. As a journalist, she approaches the subject and her guests with curiosity instead of foregone conclusions. The person you’re recommending is really not my cup of tea. I find her personal attacks against people really distasteful and unprofessional. I have a science background - it’s important to stay curious and respectful when discussing topics even when the topic is in your particular area of expertise.
I have been using Tretinion for two years daily for acne. My skin is not inflamed by it. It has not improved my lines. I still get acne too but it helps. I wear 50+ sunscreen everyday.
Thank you for this really interesting and informative video. With so many products out there and all the marketing hype I sometimes feel I might be missing out on that magic ingredient that’s going to make a difference. Thank you Dr Frye for telling the truth. I do use sunscreen daily and I’ve also been using a UPF top when I’m in the pool or beach over my matching suit and I can tell that the skin on my neck and decollette are very improved over the 3 years I’ve been doing that. I see on myself the truth of this doctor’s clinical experience. ❤
I am a man, and have had an interesting healing journey. Always with as natural an approach as I could find, healing causes and starting inside. That said, my skin has improved the most dramatically as I have healed my gut and blood-brain barrier with L-glutamine, as well as eliminating intake of processed sugar and processed foods in general. I have healed a lifelong autoimmune condition that I only discovered was just that about a year ago after watching a friend fully heal from lifelong eczema in about a year using this general protocol. Her skin went from being very abrasive in places to baby soft after that year. What I am trying to say is that we can do all we want to topically and lifestyle (exercising, avoiding smoking), but if we have any repair needed in the gut lining, it WILL show up on the skin. I am 55 now, gut healed and skin getting softer and tighter all the time! Hydration has helped, as well, and I also use a little creatine and find this also has had a big impact on my hydration and skin. I hope this helps over and above the information in the video, which was refreshing to hear! : )
@@rosamejia9295 Since it was the gut lining, L-Glutamine is THE thing I took, as it's main job is to build the stomach lining (my skin got softer on the outside, too!). While doing this, I also completely cut out processed sugars and foods for a few months. I have since eaten a bit, here and there, though I find I don't even want to any more. Hope this helps!
I’m 62 and my skin looks pretty good for my age. It was not always the case. I had acne as a teenager, back in those days the dermatologists used to break the pimples, therefore many scars. I used Clinique for over thirty five years and then one year I had major eczema on my eyelids and under eye. I heard about CeraVe and tried it’s products. The only product that healed my severe eczema. I use Elta sunscreen too. No creams for wrinkles etc. my facial skin has calmed down and looks pretty good. It looks like when I simplified my routine my skin thanked me. I also take vitamins that I need. ❤️
I live in high altitude, thus drier skin. I use water along with organic witch hazel. I do exfoliate twice a week. I do use essential oils to moisture my skin. Our skin, being largest organ requires good nutrition, sleep, less stress. I prefer zinc in protection. I avoid the chemicals, which are included in many suncare products.
So I'm 51, I've been using sunscreen everyday, for decades and only using water to clean my face and exfoliate with a wash cloth in the shower. Just recently I started thinking because I'm getting older I need to do what "mature" women do and get on a cleanser/anti aging product skin care routing even though I'm constantly getting told I do not look my age. Then I find this video and discover I'm doing it right after all! My instincts have always told me we didn't need much for the skin. I will say I have neglected my hands when it comes to sunscreen so I will do better in between washings. Just saved me a ton of money lol.
I wear SPF fingerless gloves, as reapplication of sunscreen to the hands is a mess, plus hand washing makes it harder to keep hands protected by sunscreen alone.
Claire, your skin does look amazing! I finally gave up on Tretinoin a few months ago, after trying off and on for 30+ years...my skin looks better than ever now.
Thank you so much for always bringing great content. I would really like a conversation around the connection between chemical sunscreen and hormonal health. I am a sunscreen user - I am finding it hard to find a good mineral one but dabble in both types - and I am wondering when it comes to our hormones, if the benefits far outweigh the disadvantages in this regard.
@@thehonestchannel It gets pretty confusing with conflicting information available but it’s a really important topic (even unsexier than just talking about the benefits of sunscreen) that doesn’t receive enough attention. So thank you and I look forward to it.
I have been using tretinoin and sunscreen for about 20 years and it truly slows down skin aging may be not erasing existing wrinkles but preventing from forming new ones.I had hard time all these years to make comply my skin with tret.A lot of buffering and frequency adjusting but adding azelaic acid helped me with inflammatory side effects as red patches,stinging and drying
It's one of the biggest reasons that many people are deficient in vitamin D. I use a bit of mineral sunscreen on my face, but I don't go overboard, because we very much need vitamin D, and other things from being in sunlight. Vitamin D is crucial for health, from sunlight and from diet.
I love Tretinoin and I love sunscreen. My favourite sunscreen is Mad about Skin spf 50. Can be purchased in the UK online. Thanks for a very interesting video.
I enjoyed this interview..some good points made-especially sunscreen! No need to fix if you don’t do damage!! Different topic.. a few videos back you mentioned what collagen supplement you used and I don’t remember which video! I’m really enjoying the one I am using, especially because it has zero taste and is easy to add into coffee. Would you mind sharing which one you are using and if it has a flavor. I’m so happy with the changes I’m seeing with it…and look forward to any help getting something possibly better! Thanks ..really enjoy your channel!!🎉
Glad you enjoyed the interview. I'm using Codeage Multi Collagen Peptides powder. It does have a slight taste because it isn't flavored but I can't taste it if I stir it into coffee or into Greek or natural coconut yoghurt with my breakfast. I'm planning to do a video about collagen powders in the next couple of weeks.
@@keinohrtini 2 weeks I noticed my knee no longer hurt when doing my daily walk and I have now stopped using a sleeve on that knee for stability. My skin was less dry and refreshed looking after a month…same for my nails and hair which grows like a weed after 2 months. I’m now 4 months in and my energy and mood have greatly improved. Being older, the increased protein reminds me to be more aware of my intake and that helps my muscle strength. I will not be without it. I would say a few weeks to start seeing changes… I feel it is worth every penny I spend. (PS..I also gave up ALL added sugar and refined foods and no alcohol. I think that helps with getting rid of puffiness and dehydration. I am almost a year with those changes which I think helps too)
@@Barb6106 thank you for sharing! I only recently found a way to consume collagen without the taste. I am not a coffee drinker and only now I realized I can dissolve it in tea too! 😂
Always intrigued by controversial ideas…but I’m not sure I can get behind not washing off sunscreen. Curious about her thoughts on oil/balm cleansers. Also extremely disappointed in her website, only a few drug store brands represented…it looks like a Neutrogena sponsorship 😕. BUT, I am such a fan of this channel, you are doing amazing work, even if I don’t agree with what I hear I am grateful for hearing it!!! I appreciate you so much!!!!!!
I agree about the Drs website. Not much info and not many products. I think it all comes down to using what works for you and your skin. Its definitely not a one size fit all thing.
Some people only hear what they want to hear. A product does NOT need to be expensive to provide the necessary benefits. But if spending lots of money on a product that doesn’t provide any more benefit makes you feel better then go for it.
I use sunscreen directly on my skin due to the climate I live in. It's hot and humid. I use a mild retinol cream (Neutrogena) at night. I do use a cleanser. I'm 75 and my skin is fine.
No such thing as a 100% plant based (natural) sunscreen that provides adequate protection I wish there was. The best sunscreen is the one you use liberally and daily.
Interesting interview with very pertinent comments regarding lifestyle, however, I cant imagine getting rid of my generously applied sunscreen with just water.
A few viewers have asked how you can just wash off sunscreen with water as Dr Frey suggested she does. I emailed her to ask about it and have included her response below : )
Dr Frey said: Your viewers asked a great question. Topical skincare products do not build up on the skin. The cells on the skin surface are in a constant state of desquamation. In addition, sunscreen application, assuming the person applied the product liberally, has only been shown to last 6 - 8 hours, based on science. (This doesn't include if the person wearing it is sweating, swimming or wiping it off during sport in which case it lasts for a much shorter period of time, probably less than 2 hours.) With that being said, most people apply their sunscreen in the morning. The majority of folks don't reapply. Those who do reapply, usually do so midday. Since the sunscreen only remains on the skin surface for 8 hours, a nightitme facial wash with water at bedtime is all that I recommend. And I have no scientific proof that washing just with water is even necessary.
I never use a cleanser and I apply sunscreen every morning and most afternoons. If an individual wishes to wash their face with a soap-free cleanser in the evening to remove the dirt, oil, sebum, and every bit of any topical product they had applied that day, that's fine. But there is no scientific proof that it 's necessary. Keep in mind they will also be removing the vital lipids and proteins that are necessary to keep the skin hydrated. Unfortunately, cleansers are drying. They are designed to remove things and they don't discriminate. They remove the unwanted and wanted particles on the skin. Hope this answers your question.
Actually, it’s still does not. I do reapply sunscreen, true it is mid day when I do so, but it definitely is still on my skin at the end of the day. I can see it on my washcloth when I wash my face. And water is definitely not enough to get it off. I feel like if I did not take it off completely that it would be unhealthy to leave it on my skin. It definitely does not absorb into the skin. It lays on the top of the skin. I use natural mineral sunscreen. I use the tinted version on my face. I use the untinted for my neck and décolleté. Neither product comes off without soap.
Thank you very much for the reply, though. I was definitely curious what would be said.
I think the doctor left out the use of a mechanical aid like a facecloth or sponge. I doubt she meant just splashing water on your face?
@Mary Faulkner What about burns leading, potentially, to skin cancer? I agree that sunlight can help some ppl with depression. While being out in the sunshine is naturally uplifting, I understand it is the sunlight entering the eyes where receptors help the brain make chemicals (hormones?) that are necessary to combat depression. I’m not medically trained, but I think Andrew Huberman has a video on the connection.
That said, I believe limited sun exposure W/O sunscreen is reasonable barring sunburns.
I actually use sunscreen OBSESSIVELY, especially after my dermatologist attributed my fairly young-looking skin to my diligent sunscreen use. I really don’t mess around. So, for me, there IS a SERIOUS build-up on my skin after 6-8, .5 teaspoon applications of tinted, mineral-based sunscreen by the end of the day! It’s to the point where it’s a chore getting it off and I even end up just leaving some of it on me as a result. Oh well. Can it really hurt? I don’t know. I am going to try different products to help remove it, as I think leaving it on can block other actives like a tretinoin product from getting fully absorbed into the skin. Aside from that, the skin has to BREATHE.
I got the sunscreen application routine pretty much down. It’s the sunscreen REMOVAL that I don’t yet have down. I mean, it’s a mess - it’s all in my ears, behind my ears and even in my hairline. I can see why people do not use enough sunscreen often enough!
Great answer on “good old sunshine” :)
I been using Tretinoin for 5 years and I can honestly say i look younger at 58 than when i was 48..it's taken years off my face, I've never had any adverse reactions including peeling but, I'm an exception to the rule. That being said, i used retinol prior to Retin A, and also had great results but, know your ingredients and sunscreen diligently. Great interview Claire 😊
Me too. Totally works.
What strength Tret do you use? x
@olga_b344 0.1 gel. I have been using it for 8-9 years. But my skin is on the oily side, and I live in a humid climate.
My friends has ONLY used water and sunscreen on her face for over sixty years and she is gorgeous. My grandmothers used Ponds cold cream tissued off at night and a cold water splash in the morning. They all looked beautiful. I have travelled third world countries where the women do not have skin care routines and do not eat processed foods. Again- they look beautiful.
I discovered Pond's Cold Cream wayyyy back in the early 70's (I'm 68). I would smear it all over my eyes to melt my waterproof mascara; I'd wipe it off after an hour, and noticed over the years it was great for eye wrinkles. I'd wake up in the morning and my skin was soft and plumped. Now that I'm nearly 70 and my skin has become drier, I put it all over my face and neck at night, and by morning it's soft. People always tell me I look very young for my age too.
I’ve only used water and made my own creams ( Shea, coconut, rose hips etc) for years. No face make up. I’ve been careful about sun exposure more often than not. I only smoked very little till the age of 32 and I quit. My 67 yo skin looks like crap. I’m sorry I didn’t take a more aggressive approach to skin care earlier.
@Karen Tralies When I was young I did have oily skin, and only used Pond's Cold Cream around my eyes. Now that I'm nearly 70 though, my skin is drier.
They have lots of sunshine and good natural food, colder climates obviously don’t have that
I have simplified too. Just kept the micellar water to take off eye makeup. Then sunscreen in the day, and Cerave cream at night. That's it.
I am 74, and have skin as good as my mother had who only put on Ponds cream every day and looked great. Celtic skin.
Dr Frey is a breath of fresh air. Centered and realistic, kudos to her.
She makes a lot of good points about taking a more holistic approach to skincare. One point I disagree with-I do think it’s important to use cleanser if you’re using sunscreen daily.
I agree as many sunscreen filters are oil soluble and sunscreens in general are emulsions. Lukewarm water is not enough for me to get it off fully.
Me too.
My sunscreen is definitely still visible on my face since I apply twice a day. I cannot go to sleep with all of that on there! I do a double cleanse and that doesn’t dry out my skin at all. I do use mostly mineral sunscreens so it is easy to see on my face.
Especially mineral sunscreen. There is residue even after washing.
And also if we live in a really metropolitan area. Lots of city toxins floating around that I don't want to leave on my skin.
I love this Dr. She is absolutely spot on. I quit working in high end/prestige beauty because of all the bs playing on consumers insecurities to make $. I now work in a drugstore selling inexpensive skincare. And I can tell you from my own experience that I saw better results with these products than with the pricey ones. I dont know how I feel about not using a cleanser as I have to with the make up I wear. I do tell all my customers that if you're not going to wear sunscreen than you're just wasting your money on other skincare. Love this video/interview.
Thank you Michelle
What is the best sunscreen to use?
But if you decide to stay IN for the day, surely you don't need to apply sunscreen?
Thank you for this very informative video. What was omitted, however, and what generally is omitted in the many conversations about the pros and cons of tretenoin use, is that one can use non prescription versions of retinoids (retinol, for example, found in many relatively inexpensive products) which, although they take considerably longer for notable effects, can really help (in my experience, at least) with the fine lines and lack of skin elasticity inherent in aging, with significantly fewer side effects.
I am 73 years old and have used sunscreen on my face and neck 365 days a year for more than 30 years. I briefly tried retin A in my late 40s but stopped because of impatience with redness and dryness. My skin remained very youthful in appearance with just daily SPF and moisturizers as needed, but I did notice some fine lines 5 -6 years ago and decided to add retinol at first daily and now 4-5 times a week. The lines vanished over a one year period and, in all honesty, my skin continues to look remarkably young. It does not appear that my facial skin has aged at all in 5 years.I suspect retinoid products may do a better job moderating change for people without severe signs of aging than in correcting deep wrinkles and significant aging, but I don't know if studies have looked at that specifically.
Just my thoughts, but I am also an MD and have done some study review.
Good point and it is one that is made by Dr Qian Xu who has appeared on my channel a few times. Her protocol is to start off with tretinoin and then step down to a higher strength retinol.
@Dolores Leonard. You have done exactly what I have done for 40 years. I discovered sunscreen in 1980 and can quite categorically say I have never gone a day without using it on my face. I am 70 and my skin is line free. I have an 11 between my eyebrow but everything else is good. I have used Retin A on and off since 1989, sometimes going for years without but the last 5 (like yourself) 4 or 5 times a week. The best I have found by a mile is the L'Oreal Pure Retinol Serum. It's amazing. The last few months I have also been using Adipeau as I noticed small indentations in the centre of my cheeks. The Adipeau is filling these out. It does seem quite remarkable. But the only thing I would keep of choice is the SPF 50. That is the Holy Grail. Every day all the way!
@@acechadwick Try a silicone patch at night on the 11. I think they help train your facial muscles also, not to over emote, during the day. Another little trick I found is the inexpensive plastic "retainer" on cheap whitening products. It gives definition back to the area surrounding the mouth! Tho whitening effects are dubious lol.
@SoundofSilence Ooh good one! Thank you. How long do you keep the retainer in? I love tips like this!
Thank you for your informative comment.
I know I’m a little late with my comment. This was a fantastic video. Very informative. I would love to get Dr. Frey’s opinion about skin supplements like OneSkin and DNA recovery like Photozyme MD. And all of the other products that the beauty industry is shoving down our throats. I hope she comes back. I love your channel, and I am a subscriber.
I’ve used tretinoin for 10 yrs. I think probably most people can’t push pass the beginning of using tretinoin because of irritation and flacking of the skin. Takes time and determination to adjust to it, but when the results begin to happen it is well worth it. My skin is thick, pores don’t exist and not one age spot on my face and neck.
It took me 2 years to adjust to trentinoin. My chin,lips and tip of my nose was red and peeling in parts on most days for 2 years. It was so worth it.
tretinoin is amazing it takes the dead skin off fabulously. I used it very sparingly around my eyes and I don't have deep eye wrinkles now and I'm in my 70's. I think if you mix it with moisturizer it's less harsh.I started using it in my teens because I had bad acne.Very pricey in a tube now.
So true 😂. I would be in my office meeting coworkers and just by talking and moving my face muscles my face would peel lol. I stuck through it 8 years later, I alternate between Differin which is a lot cheaper and over the counter.
Yes.. It took my skin 2 years to finally see the results WITHOUT the drying and flaking... So glad I HUNG IN THERE!!!👍🏻
This doctor is 100% correct! I worked for The Journal of Drugs in Dermatology and know some of the best derms in the world. MANY use very little on their skin aside from sunscreen. They understand that the skin's microbiome and Ph is self regulating and, aside from inflammatory conditions, should not be disturbed. I have been told many times by derms that they would never advise their skincare routine to their patients. Most simply use an oil to cleanse and sunscreen. I always found this comment strange.
Very interesting!
Thank you for sharing. I do wear makeup most days. Do you know what oil to use to remove makeup. Recommendations plz & thank you 🌻
@@blueeyedbb7777I use Babyoil and then Micellar water ... I get awesome results
Dear Clare - I couldn't love this interview and/or subject any more! 100% on point!
I think it is so imperative to truly understand that ultimately skin health is part of whole body health. And much like you and Dr. Frey touched on, the saying "you are what you eat" most definitely applies to skin as well!! I know personally, my skin is infinitely better when I skip sugar for a couple of days.
I will never understand how people take a drug (steroids) for a side effect from another drug (tretinoin). But I think that speaks volumes to the marketing power of pharma. And understanding that inflamation is the number one cause of skin aging, why would anyone do this to their skin? Sun damage also is simply inflammation caused by the sun. That is why sun protection is so important.
I am now 54, and went on this journey about two years ago. I think I mentioned to you on another one of your posts about Dr. Julia Hunter, and her "whole"istic approach. Her philosophy and attitude towards skincare and marketing is exactly this! All about tested, clean, healthy and healthful ingredients. About treating the body as a whole, including nutrition and excercise, as well as mental health and stress relief!
I was such a skincare junkie, always on the hunt for the next great 'IT' product. About a year ago, over a few days I binge watched her YT channel, all her videos that speak of the relation of our diet to our skin, the harmful ingredients in many high priced, and also many so called 'clean' brands. Just submerged myself in exactly this subject. ... For the past year, I have used her products exclusively, and my skin has never looked or felt better. I do also use Truth Treatments 5% Retinol serum twice a week.
I would love for you to take the "sunscreen" subject a little further. There has been quite a bit of recent (or recently published) research of especially chemical sunscreens being more damaging than beneficial. I personally have only used physical suncreens for the past two years, and would never put a chemical on my skin ever again.
One step further would be the research that it is because of our diet that we even need sunscreen in the first place. The additives in our food that make us susceptible, and that centuries ago people did not need sunscreen, because the food was so rich in antioxidants, minerals and vitamins. ... Truly mind blowing when you start down the rabbit hole :)
Dr. Hunter actually also mentions some of the brands that are listed on Dr. Frey's site as having some toxic ingredients. So that would be a whole other video.
Thank you for providing actually valuable content! I think we all need to realize what a privilege aging HEALTHFULLY is. Our skin is our largest organ, and it is imperative that we feed it with care.
I'll definitely look into sunscreen more closely and do a video on it because a lot of people are asking about chemicals in sunscreens etc.
Which physical sunscreen do you use ? I just can’t deal with the white cast that seems impossible to fully work into the skin .
@@SleeplessinOC I don’t use sunscreen every day - and that’s a whole other discussion about researching the sunscreen debate.
When I do, I use Plumscreen fro Le Prunier. Some of the zinc and titanium in some physical sunscreens can also be harmful. Plumscreen is the only thing other than home made that I will use. Truth Treatments also has an excellent ZnO Block. It doesn’t say that it’s a ‘sunblock’, but that’s what it is.
Hope this helps. Best of luck
My mother used a flannel and water, nothing else to clean her face and a moisturiser. Her favourite was olay and when she died at 83 ,she NEVER had one wrinkle!
She always said to me don't waste your money.
It's interesting isn't it. Me on the other hand have tried everything to no real advantage. 😊
I love the conversation!! And your sense of humor, ladies! Thx!
My girlfriend is 58 and only uses sunscreen! She looks 20 years younger! Amazing
Thank you Clare, another take on aging, I find it informative and I'm glad I found you. I'm almost 58 and I've been using spf every day for about 10 years now, before that only on holidays. But eventually I got the "message" and raised my 24 year old daughter with spf every day. My pick is LaRochePosey anthelios 50+ uv mune 400.
Thanks Marleen. I've known for years that it's important but I think I'm only just beginning to realise just how important it is - and what a massive difference it can make when it comes to anti-aging for our skin. You've done the right thing by raising your daughter to wear it daily. Wish I had used it when I was younger.
Hope your Vit D levels are ok
@@thehonestchannel me to Clare
@@valerie4975 Unless you put sunscreen on every corner of your skin including the scalp, she should be fine 😊
I am 55 and I’m mistaken constantly for 40 . I have hardly ever washed my face with cleansers. I’ve sometimes used oils to clean or a mud mask when I know I’ve used non water soluble product. I eat really well , intermittent fast and work out. My favorite skin product that has actually visibly done something is Adipeau and my favorite product I trust is helping is SPF . I never used it when I was younger but I believe it’s never too late to start and it will all make a difference. Side note : I look younger now than I did in my 40s . Your channel is amazing and I love that you find amazing experts that bring out their truths even though it may go against the grain. How else are we to continue progressing?
Glad you enjoy the channel and thank you for your support!! Thanks too for sharing what works for you 🥰
It's great that you have good genes. However it doesn't prove that anti aging products don't work.
I wasn't blessed with good aging genes, and I can say the Adipeau is the only (non SPF) product that's made any improvement. It's a really great product that I would never have known about, if not for Clare/Honest Channel. 😊
Hello Clare from Illinois, U.S.A. I'm a new subscriber who has been using various sunscreens for 49 years. When I was twenty, I read an article in one of my mother's magazines that described the discovery about daily sunscreen use as an aging preventative. I'm now 69 and people are shocked when they find out how old I am. In the 70's, all I had was Coppertone SPF 4, so I used that on my face every morning under my makeup. I have used Eucerin Daily sunscreen lotion, SPF 30, for years. It is the only thing I put on my face in the morning under my makeup, mostly due to its non-irritating, lightweight and silky texture. The real key to choosing products is how they make your skin feel. We need things that we will happily and consitently use.
Must you apply EVEN THOUGH you know you will not be leaving your house for the day? I am 61 and never use SPF but I hardly ever go out in the sun.
Great interview. Thank you. I love dr. Fry’s attitude and her skin is amazing!
Thanks Kathy!
Thank you for your kind sentiments Kathy.
Thanks Clare, that was just what I needed to hear. I have had persistent perioral dermatitis and I decided to try leaving my skin alone. I haven’t cleansed or put anything on my face for two days and my skin is looking so much better! The amount of products out there is overwhelming and I have shifted my focus to sleep, exercise, diet and stress management. I agree with Dr Frey about laughter ❤😂
@lindsayfarquharson, you say you haven't cleansed or put anything on your face for two days but did you wash it with soap and water , explain please.
I take borage gummies! Got hair & skin Nordic naturals
This is so sensible. I just started watching skincare videos and they all seem like salespeople to me. No one mentions all the ingredients. I mix olive oil and sugar and only use that on face and body to cleans, never soaps. I experimented with oils and found some I love: apricot oil, jojoba, coconut, cocobutter, etc. No fancy concoctions with chemicals for me. Common sence.
I loved this program and could not admire and respect Dr. Frey more; she is a true scientist with integrity. I appreciate Dr. Frey's discipline, no nonsense approach and honesty.
Thanks for watching!
I have used retin A for decades . It works for me . Good diet is also essential. All things work together, topicals and healthy food intake.
Thank you for making this video. It’s the truth we don’t want to hear…yet we need to
This was SO illuminating! I tried Tret for several years off and on, and it only disrupted my skin and caused worse hyperpigmentation and sensitivity. I’m now trying to correct issues I didn’t have before starting. Thank you for this interview🙂.
This is a great piece Clare!! ❤ Very timely to listen to when being bombarded by all the black friday specials. I have saved it and will revisit it so that I can be more thoughtful with my future skincare purchases. The pull of all the promises and claims is so strong!!!
Glad it's helping you stay strong on Black Friday 😁
Absolutely LOVED this interview, Dr Frey is fabulous as are you Claire for bringing these experts to TH-cam ❤❤❤
Thank you!
Thank you Linda
Dr Frey looks she could be in her 40’s. She is beautiful!!! She is very intelligent. Thank you doctor for sharing the knowledge with the public ❤❤
Wow! Such a nice compliment. Thank you for your kind sentiments.
@@faynefrey5296 Good morning ☀️ and you inspire me !!! I am trying to be like you haha thanks for the knowledge! ❤️
I thought the same thing...I was shocked when she said her age. I could not stop staring at her youthful neck and chest -not in a weird way, just admiringly as my poor, southern california, 58 year old neck looks NOTHING like hers.
Thank you so much this talk was absolutely liberating.
So glad!
Awesome! Both you and the fact that you feel liberated!!! Thank you for your feedback!
I’m a Tretinoin (rx) fan girl. It reversed all the lines & discoloration from using tanning beds & sunbathing since my early 50s. Am 60 now and I credit careful use of tret for my youthful-again complexion- plus ceasing tanning & faithful application of LRP sunscreens- 40 SPF or higher. I do need gentle cleansers twice a day since I STILL have oily skin…otherwise my skin breaks out. At 60 ugh.
Glad somebody finds tretinoin cream beneficial
Thank you for these interviews and for your investigative work, Clare. This is my favorite skincare channel (and there are a lot to choose from). Please keep the good and varied information coming. I’m a big fan.
Really appreciate that - thank you for your support!
This was excellent!! Definitely going to pick up the book and check out the site. Thank You so much.
Thank you Tina.
What a lovely, lady Dr Frey is. Thanks a million Claire.
Thanks for watching!
Great info!! Why spend hundreds of dollars on purchasing products that are just over marketing their ability to prevent aging. Dr. Frye, thank you!!
You are very welcome. Thank you for you kind words.
Love the quote: “Discussing Sunscreen is not sexy.” But you know what is - EXPERIENCING its irrefutable benefits. Terrific Discussion!
I truly love your channel. Keep doing the best work ❤️
Love the guest, love this interview.
Thank you Dina!
Fabulous interview. We need to start loving how healthy ageing naturally looks. I think a healthy, confident, ageing lady is more beautiful than someone lacking confidence and obviously had loads of work and looks stretched and lifted. Natural is perfectly beautiful!
And the interviewer is beautiful at 50! Thank you….your channel is amazing!
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Thanks for another brilliant interview. You look fantastic!!!
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Your channel is incredible. I love it!
Thank you! So glad you enjoy it ❤️
This was so interesting, Clare! While I agree that sunscreen protects against photoaging, what about those of us who did not have effective sunscreens in our childhood? I played outside year 'round, got burned in the summer frequently, and have wrinkly spotty skin to show for it. I started using weak SPF when they became available, so since my 30s I've been religious about SPF. I'm so confused now if there is anything I can do to make it look better at 75. Regarding cleansing, if we use a lot of mineral SPF and water-resistant SPF, don't we have to use a cleanser to get it off? Or, are we supposed to just build up layers and layers of SPF over the years? What about using oil to break up water-resistant SPF and tinted SPF-- is that out the window, too? Oh so many questions! I bought her book. Thank you for searching for interesting people to interview!!!
Glad you found the interview interesting. I should have asked her which sunscreen she uses and if she just washes it off with water. I will email her with the question though!
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Hey Claire, I Love your channel!
Would you possibly review mineral sunscreens from companies that are ONLY Cruelty Free please? And maybe some from lesser known, small businesses. And also one's that don't have ANY crap ingredients like methyl/propyl/ parabens, or silicone? And maybe recommendations of one's best for day-to-day, limited sun exposure, & other's more suited to for a long day of sun exposure?
I find it Really disheartening that MANY, if not MOST beauty vloggers review makeup & skincare products that aren't cruelty free, yet have pets, that apparently they love; there is this disconnect to the pain & suffering of animals that are so CRUELY used in the testing of these products. The ONLY beauty vlogger that I am aware of that has Banned reviewing ANY Non-Cruelty free product is Elle Leary.
If EVERY beauty influencer banned together & Flat out Refused to review Any Non-Cruelty Free product, the industry would be FORCED to change, & change Quickly! This day & age they absolutely rely on beauty influencers to sell their products.
If EVERY influencer was made to watch a video on the HEINOUS ABUSE these animals suffer, I don't think that ANYONE would be able to live with their conscience knowing that they were helping to aid & abett this Torturous Cruelty!
It's pretty interesting that your guest points to more evidence about how there is really no True scientific evidence that confirms that Tretinoin is actually the "Gold Standard". "Someone" made that up apparently, & everyone has bought it, hook, line, & sinker! I would however, like to know more about the efficacy a Phyto Retinol, like backuchiol.
I just don't understand how plain water is supposed to fully take off makeup & sunscreen!? That, I don't buy...but if it works for her, then great.
@@thehonestchannel Yes, please! That was my nr 1 question too. I understand a lot of people do use micellar water to remove their sunscreen but is regular water after that enough? I also use jojoba oil at night over my moisturizer which really helped my dehydrated skin, I am not sure if simply water will get rid of the leftover oil on the skin in the morning. It would be very helpful what her answer is on this topic!
@@CherylBerryl I hear you Cheryl. I mentioned at the end of the video the vegan mineral sunscreen I'm currently using by Versed. I think it's excellent.
@@keinohrtini I've pinned Dr Frey's reply at the top of the comments section : )
Love this! ❤ So interesting. Thanks, Claire!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Glad I dropped in. Learned a lot... Wow....
I appreciate your bringing her to us, but I'm going to take my own advice on this one. I'm 56 and always mistaken for younger than that and can definitely see the difference even 0.025 tretinoin makes in my skin. It is definitely smoother with less blotchiness, and I get hardly any flaking so long as I use a moisturizer over it that is made for dry skin. I may only do it for a year, since I understand you get maximum effect in about that time, but may decide to just keep going since the only downside is not being able to use an even stronger active like glycolic acid those nights I use tret. I have a feeling this doc wouldn't want us using the acids either, so no way to get ahead there.
But yes, most of the youthfulness I display now comes from many years of avoiding most sun damage. You can definitely see the spots on my skin where I wasn't doing a good job due to how straw hats were rubbing off the sunscreen without providing complete coverage to that area. It's just that going forward, I'm at an age where more is needed for repair, not just prevention.
And I definitely notice that I get clogged pores, bumps, and blackheads if I don't wash with a facial cleanser at least once a day to get off the grime and products from the day.
I can at least appreciate her minimalist stance though, being sure to ask ourselves what's actually making a difference for us and focusing just on that. I'm finding more and more things that make a difference these days, based on having enough damage to see improvements being made. I tried a new product combo this weekend that blew me away. It was one sent to me for free with a Medicube device I bought. I now don't want to ever be without that combo, which completely eliminated my forehead wrinkles overnight. Not permanently, but I'd never seen where you do something one day then wake up the next day with absolutely smooth skin where it used to be a bit crepey. I give this as an example to say, let the games continue.
So intriguing! Would you mind sharing the name of these products? Are they for sale to the general public? Thank you! ☺️
I hear you, and I don't think I could cut back that much on skincare either - I enjoy it too much!
@@stephanieilluzzi7355buy the medicube device or check their website. 😅
Thankyou loved your interview
Thanks for watching!
Another very interesting interview!
Really enjoy your content. I find it helpful to hear a variety of viewpoints when deciding how to best maintain my health.
Great to hear!
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I have heard that Bakuchiol and also rose hip seed oil have similar benefits as retinoids without any irritation. Does anyone know if this is true?
If sunscreen is applied to the hands, does it need to be reapplied every time you wash your hands? What are some good sunscreens? Can anyone recommend?
Brilliant video. Thank you!
I have used trenoin for 5 years. It completely changed my skin and took wrinkles away from my face. It took about ten months to get used to I started with a very low dose and I'm only at .50 , but it's done the trick for me 19:35
Glad it worked out for you.
@TheHonestChannel I'm so grateful for the simple yet wonderful information. I've been buying expensive creams etc. Just sunscreen and a simple moisturizer sound so freeing. I'll probably keep using the tretinoin because I'm probably the 10% it works for. Bless you for helping us !
I live in Texas where the sun shines most days I have used Shisiedo 50+ for faces for years. I love the creaminess on my neck and face.
Fantastic informative video Claire. Thank you so much.
Thanks ladies for the info.
Been using retin A for 10 years. I’m 78. Look 60.
Do you mean tretinoin
I'm very grateful for these discussions thank you!
You’re so welcome!
How do you get sunscreen off with water?
I emailed Dr Frey re that so I'll pin her reply in the comments.
I’d like to hear her thoughts on eczema. Both adult and baby
Sunscreen no matter whether its mineral or chemical, when used on my face, it makes my eyes nearly jump out of their sockets. Also, what do you use when the damage is already done?
Gill what works for me is: Take the sunscreen up to the bone under the eye socket and then I use Burt Bees 40% zinc diaper cream (which doesn't sting around the eyes). It's a phenomenal sunblock but it does leave a white cast. However I then put make up on top and you can''t see it.
Another amazing interview…thank you
Thank you!
Very very interesting! Thank you for lifting the heavy load from our shoulders . Honestly my grandmother never used anything on her face apart from an olive oil home made soap ( very Lebanese )and she was glowing till the last minute of her life .
🔆 I just love it
Same wih my Greek aunty, Her skin was divine even in her 80s. I haven't been too fussy either, until recently when everything has become a fad. Although always tried to use moisturisers without chemicals which brings me to the subject of sunscreens, don't most of them have yukky chemicals inside? I've just started with sunscreen and just turned 60. But told I look late 40s. In Asia we cant get tretinoin so I use a French brand A313. No irritation whatsoever. I think it's another kind of retinol which is much more gentle and doesn't make my skin sag like the harsh one from boots, No. 7.
What is the brand name of the French product you use?
@@esthermccormack A313
You know she's right about sunscreen 110%. My skin never looked better until I started using a quality sunscreen 46 spf. Skin care has become a business pure and simple.
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Sunscreen does nothing but give me acne.😢
Which brand do you use? I'm always looking to find good quality sunscreen.
I wash my hands with soap/cleanser. Why wouldn't I do the same with my face? I use a mild cleanser to remove dirt, pollution, etc. I guess she never rode the subway in New York.
FANTASTIC video claire !
Thank you!
Nice, no nonsense interview.
This was eye opening sadly I've been anti sun screen but no more
Glad you found it helpful.
The doctor has good points. I see improvement using tret because maybe I have problems more than just for anti aging benefit to begin with. And don't forget the genetic part. For those blessed people, they can go minimalist. It does not really apply to me. I was minimalist for more than 20 years enough to see the damage and seek help from skincare products.
As a child I recall being told that I looked too pale and go and get some sunshine. Result...sunburn in the short term and now in my 60s, photo damage, wrinkles and I look closer to 80. I use it now every day. Wish we even had it when I was a kid.
Great interview. Thank you.
Thanks for being here 🥰
Ozone layer was in better condition in those days, now it is eroded and let's in harmful uv rays that cause skin damage.
Amazing interview, I'm definitely getting her book!!
Also, I love your hair in the intro!❤
Thanks Sarah!
Thank you Sarah. I hope you enjoy the book!
Loved this!!!!!Leave a New Yorker to "land the plane"!!
Wow - thank you for doing this interview. She was so informative and you are always a delight.
I would like to hear what she has to say about skincare with active ingredients - things like peptides and growth factors and vitamins, though I suspect she would say something like “if you like them, use them, but only drugs approved by the fda can actually treat a skin condition” but we know that salicylic acid treats acne.
I realize I’m sounding argumentative - and that’s not my intention at all - I just need to hear a meaningful discussion about how we might use these over the counter products to enhance skin health going beyond beauty.
I do appreciate you and the experts you interview very much.
Good suggestions there!
Ida Hardy: "I just need to hear a meaningful discussion about how we might use these over the counter products to enhance skin health going beyond beauty." You'll find everything you would want to know via Dr Dray's channel.
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I’m familiar with that doctor’s channel, and of course Doctorly and dr Sam something, Dr Young, Dr Rajani, and dr Shereen - there are lots of dermatologists and plastic surgeons who don’t have other people on their channels to have discussions and debates.
One of the things I really love about the Honest Channel is the host is a journalist. As a journalist, she approaches the subject and her guests with curiosity instead of foregone conclusions.
The person you’re recommending is really not my cup of tea. I find her personal attacks against people really distasteful and unprofessional.
I have a science background - it’s important to stay curious and respectful when discussing topics even when the topic is in your particular area of expertise.
Good info, thanks! How do I get rid of sun spots to now wearing sunscreen?
Personally, I would go for IPL treatment for sun spots.
I have been using Tretinion for two years daily for acne. My skin is not inflamed by it. It has not improved my lines. I still get acne too but it helps. I wear 50+ sunscreen everyday.
Thank you for this really interesting and informative video. With so many products out there and all the marketing hype I sometimes feel I might be missing out on that magic ingredient that’s going to make a difference. Thank you Dr Frye for telling the truth. I do use sunscreen daily and I’ve also been using a UPF top when I’m in the pool or beach over my matching suit and I can tell that the skin on my neck and decollette are very improved over the 3 years I’ve been doing that. I see on myself the truth of this doctor’s clinical experience. ❤
I wash with a facial cleanser only at night to wash the day off. Mornings I use a toner before any products.
I am a man, and have had an interesting healing journey. Always with as natural an approach as I could find, healing causes and starting inside.
That said, my skin has improved the most dramatically as I have healed my gut and blood-brain barrier with L-glutamine, as well as eliminating intake of processed sugar and processed foods in general. I have healed a lifelong autoimmune condition that I only discovered was just that about a year ago after watching a friend fully heal from lifelong eczema in about a year using this general protocol. Her skin went from being very abrasive in places to baby soft after that year.
What I am trying to say is that we can do all we want to topically and lifestyle (exercising, avoiding smoking), but if we have any repair needed in the gut lining, it WILL show up on the skin.
I am 55 now, gut healed and skin getting softer and tighter all the time!
Hydration has helped, as well, and I also use a little creatine and find this also has had a big impact on my hydration and skin.
I hope this helps over and above the information in the video, which was refreshing to hear! : )
Thanks for sharing this and I’m really pleased to hear you’re feeling better.
What did you use to cure your gut.
@@rosamejia9295 Since it was the gut lining, L-Glutamine is THE thing I took, as it's main job is to build the stomach lining (my skin got softer on the outside, too!). While doing this, I also completely cut out processed sugars and foods for a few months. I have since eaten a bit, here and there, though I find I don't even want to any more. Hope this helps!
I’m 62 and my skin looks pretty good for my age. It was not always the case. I had acne as a teenager, back in those days the dermatologists used to break the pimples, therefore many scars. I used Clinique for over thirty five years and then one year I had major eczema on my eyelids and under eye. I heard about CeraVe and tried it’s products. The only product that healed my severe eczema. I use Elta sunscreen too. No creams for wrinkles etc. my facial skin has calmed down and looks pretty good. It looks like when I simplified my routine my skin thanked me. I also take vitamins that I need. ❤️
What about nebulyft I think its making me sick my head feels weird and microcurrent gives me headaches
I love your channel! Subscribed.
Welcome - and thank you!
I live in high altitude, thus drier skin. I use water along with organic witch hazel. I do exfoliate twice a week. I do use essential oils to moisture my skin. Our skin, being largest organ requires good nutrition, sleep, less stress. I prefer zinc in protection. I avoid the chemicals, which are included in many suncare products.
So I'm 51, I've been using sunscreen everyday, for decades and only using water to clean my face and exfoliate with a wash cloth in the shower. Just recently I started thinking because I'm getting older I need to do what "mature" women do and get on a cleanser/anti aging product skin care routing even though I'm constantly getting told I do not look my age. Then I find this video and discover I'm doing it right after all! My instincts have always told me we didn't need much for the skin. I will say I have neglected my hands when it comes to sunscreen so I will do better in between washings. Just saved me a ton of money lol.
Glad you found it helpful! I too need to start applying sunscreen to the back of my hands!
I wear SPF fingerless gloves, as reapplication of sunscreen to the hands is a mess, plus hand washing makes it harder to keep hands protected by sunscreen alone.
Claire, your skin does look amazing! I finally gave up on Tretinoin a few months ago, after trying off and on for 30+ years...my skin looks better than ever now.
Thanks Dana! Great to hear your skin is happy : )
Thank you so much for always bringing great content. I would really like a conversation around the connection between chemical sunscreen and hormonal health. I am a sunscreen user - I am finding it hard to find a good mineral one but dabble in both types - and I am wondering when it comes to our hormones, if the benefits far outweigh the disadvantages in this regard.
I will look more closely into chemicals in sunscreen and do a video.
@@thehonestchannel It gets pretty confusing with conflicting information available but it’s a really important topic (even unsexier than just talking about the benefits of sunscreen) that doesn’t receive enough attention. So thank you and I look forward to it.
Malin & Goetz has a lovely non tinted physical sunscreen
Elta MD mineral clear is my favorite
Great interview! Looking forward to exploring the website! Thank you both!
Thank you Jill
I have been using tretinoin and sunscreen for about 20 years and it truly slows down skin aging may be not erasing existing wrinkles but preventing from forming new ones.I had hard time all these years to make comply my skin with tret.A lot of buffering and frequency adjusting but adding azelaic acid helped me with inflammatory side effects as red patches,stinging and drying
I would need to see a close up of her face to determine her successful routine.
So glad to hear that I am not crazy😊Totally agree with you and at 72 I just dont need all the hype! Only sunscreen! Thank you💖
This is amazing 😍
What kind of cloth is best for facial skin for cleaning?
This might be a silly thing to say but do you still get vitamin d while using sun cream.I wished I found a sun cream that didn’t break me out 😩
It's one of the biggest reasons that many people are deficient in vitamin D. I use a bit of mineral sunscreen on my face, but I don't go overboard, because we very much need vitamin D, and other things from being in sunlight. Vitamin D is crucial for health, from sunlight and from diet.
I love Tretinoin and I love sunscreen. My favourite sunscreen is Mad about Skin spf 50. Can be purchased in the UK online. Thanks for a very interesting video.
Great to hear - thank you!
I enjoyed this interview..some good points made-especially sunscreen! No need to fix if you don’t do damage!!
Different topic.. a few videos back you mentioned what collagen supplement you used and I don’t remember which video! I’m really enjoying the one I am using, especially because it has zero taste and is easy to add into coffee. Would you mind sharing which one you are using and if it has a flavor. I’m so happy with the changes I’m seeing with it…and look forward to any help getting something possibly better! Thanks ..really enjoy your channel!!🎉
how long have you been using your collagen before you saw changes?
Glad you enjoyed the interview. I'm using Codeage Multi Collagen Peptides powder. It does have a slight taste because it isn't flavored but I can't taste it if I stir it into coffee or into Greek or natural coconut yoghurt with my breakfast. I'm planning to do a video about collagen powders in the next couple of weeks.
@@keinohrtini 2 weeks I noticed my knee no longer hurt when doing my daily walk and I have now stopped using a sleeve on that knee for stability. My skin was less dry and refreshed looking after a month…same for my nails and hair which grows like a weed after 2 months. I’m now 4 months in and my energy and mood have greatly improved. Being older, the increased protein reminds me to be more aware of my intake and that helps my muscle strength. I will not be without it. I would say a few weeks to start seeing changes… I feel it is worth every penny I spend.
(PS..I also gave up ALL added sugar and refined foods and no alcohol. I think that helps with getting rid of puffiness and dehydration. I am almost a year with those changes which I think helps too)
@@Barb6106 thank you for sharing! I only recently found a way to consume collagen without the taste. I am not a coffee drinker and only now I realized I can dissolve it in tea too! 😂
@@keinohrtini hooray! Anything to get it in…adding to protein drink works well too.
I hope you are doing well with it!
Always intrigued by controversial ideas…but I’m not sure I can get behind not washing off sunscreen. Curious about her thoughts on oil/balm cleansers. Also extremely disappointed in her website, only a few drug store brands represented…it looks like a Neutrogena sponsorship 😕. BUT, I am such a fan of this channel, you are doing amazing work, even if I don’t agree with what I hear I am grateful for hearing it!!! I appreciate you so much!!!!!!
I appreciate that, thank you. Life would be boring if we all said and did the same thing. ❤️
I agree about the Drs website. Not much info and not many products. I think it all comes down to using what works for you and your skin. Its definitely not a one size fit all thing.
Some people only hear what they want to hear. A product does NOT need to be expensive to provide the necessary benefits. But if spending lots of money on a product that doesn’t provide any more benefit makes you feel better then go for it.
BOTH OF YOU HAVE LOVELY SKIN!!!!
Color Science Sun Screen is my faborite!
I’m going to a dermatologist after watching your channel. Love your channel
So glad you find it helpful ❤️
I use sunscreen directly on my skin due to the climate I live in. It's hot and humid. I use a mild retinol cream (Neutrogena) at night. I do use a cleanser. I'm 75 and my skin is fine.
What sunscreen is Totally natural and the Best???!???
No such thing as a 100% plant based (natural) sunscreen that provides adequate protection I wish there was. The best sunscreen is the one you use liberally and daily.
How do you get the spf off without cleanser???🤷♀️
I emailed her to ask that question and will pin her response to the top of the comments section.
Interesting interview with very pertinent comments regarding lifestyle, however, I cant imagine getting rid of my generously applied sunscreen with just water.
Babyganics is the only sunscreen I use. Have used it for 10 years. It works very well as a primer under my foundation.
I love that one too.