Two days after his Madden's transfer, Burks was dead. On July 20th, approximately two hours before Burks' death, Madden had asked prison counselor Karen Prunick for a transfer to another cell.
Whoa whoa whoa!! The prisons fault?? Yes partly but all of it??? No way!! He killed someone because he didn’t like the fact that he was gay!! Not all the prisons fault!!
@@AnthonydREDWAVE Yes it's entirely the prisons fault, the man voiced his concerns and they didn't care. The result is not shocking, prison is nothing like the "free" world, it's a dog eat dog place.
@@WilliamStewart1 no the hell it’s not all the prisons fault!! He killed someone for being gay!!! Helllooooo???!!! You can’t justify that 100% percent! He didn’t do anything to that man!! There is no excuse for killing a man who hasn’t done anything to you!! Once again, blame others!! It’s not his fault! He made me do it! I can tell your a typical far left liberal idiot!!
@@AnthonydREDWAVE Put your in his position or even a family member. If your dad had the same problem because someone was acting sexual with him in a gay manner and your dad warned and pleased the officers to be separated and nothing resulted obviously things will get worse. That man didn’t have respect for himself nor the cell mate, i bet if your dad killed him you’d agree and be saying the same thing as @Will S
@@jamesgreen2615 *Edit: His other ignorant comment got deleted so you lose context of my comment: Yeah "Boom"... boom is the last thing you're gonna hear when your dumbass gets shot by a cop because you think you're hard.* *You're a loser. Seriously.* *Be a man for once, instead of an immature little punk that idolizes criminal lowlifes.*
bro come on, 100% accountable? he killed the man in cold blood. they had to put the dude somewhere, and it’s not like they consistently ignored his pleads to move, he killed the dude after TWO DAYS.
When my man says, “Move me, I don’t like rocking with gay people, especially in a cell!”, then move him!! Simple as that!! Could have 110% been avoided by the jail!!
Actually no! Once an inmate makes a request or complaint like that they are usually immediately separated. They respondingbofficer whom revived the request/complaint is duty bound by law to ask the inmate. Do you feel as though you are a danger to yourself and or others? If the officer did not do this then the prison is at fault. However that would be looked over and rendered moot since the inmate will be judged sane and therefore able to stand trial. That brother is gonna die in prison.
@@stephenscott7854 Dude, in the words of some idiot I heard talking to another asshole in a very bad place: "It's obvious y'ain't never been nowhere..." Guards and staff are bigger criminals than any guy locked up in there.
@@unclecreed2986 Doing anything to make it less comfortable (add more punishment) is unconstitutional in the USA, making the guards literally the more serious criminal. The punishment is removal from society. Some guard deciding to turn the heat down in winter to make people sick is illegal (sadly, they are almost never punished for shit like this. Only the very worst guards are brought down, by prisoners on occasion. And the prisoner who does so is making a huge sacrifice. He is usually tortured for doing so).
His responsibility was to let the CO’s know he has a problem, and it’s their responsibility to determine how the situation should be resolved. They chose not to act so every employee he told should be charged with criminal negligence at the very least.
I think you're wrong your in prison for a reason you don't get to choose your accomodations but you absolutely don't have the right to murder someone because of there love preference this kid should get death penalty
No. If you’ve ever worked in a prison then you would know that just moving cells isn’t as easy as that. If you do it for one person twenty more want to do it next. This man killed another man, that is his fault. Don’t act like prisoners are so entitled to what they want because they are not. Prison isn’t a fun happy place where you asked to be moved and the CO’s just smile and comply. Y’all live in a fantasy land I swear.
A Prison is not a Hotel, you just cant ring Reception + ask for a better room with a sea view. Its a prison idiot...Dont do the crime, simple, I personally like Prisons to be Hell holes, designed to deter future criminals ending in prison.
@@chiefs5822 sometimes you don’t have a choice, sometimes shit happens in the heat of the moment, there is no don’t do the crime you won’t go to jail, I’m pretty sure me and you both know that
@@kevindc4961 the fact you think because you don’t commit a crime you won’t go to jail is crazy to me, especially for you to think that way in today’s day and age, it doesn’t make sense
@@kevindc4961 u like prison to be like hell when it’s supposed to help reform niggas but then wonder why shit like this happen; why it’s demons walkin around you fuckin goofy
While he made his own decision and killed this man on his own volition, this would not have happened had his request been taken seriously! The prison needs to be held just as responsible.
yea right. he didn't even know what would happen of his request.. he gave them 2 HOURS before killing the dude.. hardly a reasonable amount of time to fulfill a transfer request
@@fpscanada3862 when its made clear having them together poses a threat to one or both of them they are responsible for removing the threat. That means acting a hell of a lot faster than 2 hours.
@@fpscanada3862 How long does it take to move someone from a cell to another location. I'm sure it didn't take two hours to "transfer" the killer to an isolation room.
@@robertfrapples2472 lmfao.... dude. The prison doesn't revolve around that guy. Could have been a million reasons why they didn't move him RIGHT THAT SECOND like you seem to expect them to. Anybody who is actually trying to get out of prison wouldn't throw it all away because there was a gay in his cell for 2 hours. oh and also, how hard is it to stay out of the penitentiary? These so called "gangstas" are nothing but feminine bltches who grew up without a man in their life. Thinking the whole world revolves around their bum ass
I’m not supporting murder. I believe taking someone’s life is wrong. But I blame the prison. He asked to be moved and they ignored it. This mans death could’ve been avoided
Kamari Smith bruh he kill a man for no reason just because he touched his tv? Wtf man it’s simple bro don’t touch my shit and don’t say shit to me and we won’t have any problems and dude he killed didn’t look like nothing serious
@@Diegoshadow85 nigga are you dumb he asked to be moved to a new cell and he gave a very specific reason to it, its why I don't blame the guy but I blame the prison.
She probably did what she could. Most moves are made by the warden. So her recommendation to move him would have sat on his desk for months before a move would be given the okay
@@TTDomiinator you wanna be forced to live with a bisexual? If they can’t work them in prison system then how is bunking individuals in a hostile situation a good idea? I’m open for discussion.
@@janetmcarthur5257 Um, no. He's not allowed to do that. What he IS allowed to do is whatever he feels necessary in order to keep his INMATES ALIVE. Anybody with half a brain, ESPECIALLY a WARDEN, would have seen this exact situation coming.
Absolutely, but sadly they won’t EDIT: Before putting words in my mouth, saying I’m defending a homophobe or that I’m relieving the murderer of responsibility… Use more than half your brain and read my responses below. Thanks.
When you're dealing with criminals, don't treat them like they give a fuck about your laws. He told you to move him. It's a prison. You guys should have known.
I was curious as to what Burks had been convicted of, found this: "Burks had been sentenced to prison in December 2016 for fleeing and eluding police and receiving stolen property, and was classified as level 4 security, according to the lawsuit." Allegedly other inmates and prison staff not only knew of Burks being gay, but also that Madden was homophobic, and both inmates requested to be separated. Dang...
jangaderito no ones emphasizing murder 🤦🏾♂️ Obviously we all understand he’s guilty however he still asked for a cell changed and they refused. You’re basically defending the guards like it’s not their fault either 🙄
@Jules Juerez they want to live in their little bubbles for the rest of their lives and be ignorant to real life, they want life to be all fun and games when it is not.
@Jangadero thats how jail works goofball you put him in there with a straight nigga and you get murked thats normal there nobody to blame but the jail cause they knew this gonna happen :D
Thats nice that people want to blame a guard. Fact of the matter is that it is not policy in pretty much all prisons worldwide to grant single cells or transfers to another cell if cellmates dont like eachother. Few countries actually make an effort, but are often constricted by number of cells and amount of inmates. Bottom line is it costs money and few people give a shit. So those 50 that upvoted (many many more in all the comments) should consider what it is they want. If they want things like this not to happen, open your wallet. It certainly isnt going to lead to a prison guard being prosecuted or even reprimanded. Its policy and only if they have a strong indication it will lead to great harm will they do something in some western countries. In non western countries... not even worth mentioning.
This is no ones fault besides the man who decided to murder his cellmate. If he really wanted to get his point across to the correctional officers, then he could have beat the shit out of his cellmate without killing him, they would then have no choice but to move him.
@@chegadesuade that’s not how jail or prison works they knew what they were doing. Races don’t even shower at the same times, gays don’t shower with straight people. Prison is not a progressive place it’s a place they lock people up in 4 by 7 foot cells. Guards know how things work, they were bored and wanted to see someone die. I’ve seen guards laugh when people commit suicide or watch as a mentally ill person who shouldn’t be in prison is making a fool of themselves and shitting on themselves. Prison is a sick place and it only functions barely with such rudimentary laws such as these no matter how crude it is it’s the guys fault for murder but guards are to blame for created a scenario that I guarantee they knew the outcome
@@josiahwong3934 fam if this the same place mf was k1ll1n other mf over 2 or 3 ramen noodle packets i think its safe to say aint no control NOTHIN in there but the "ideal morale" of a mf food chain bra. im only goin off my own personal experience though. ive done no research 🤣🤣🤣
@@josiahwong3934 You can’t expect convicts to be moral. It was irresponsible to ignore the move request, especially when given the reason. The prison failed to protect the gay man.
@@josiahwong3934 all the CO had to do was seperate these 2 men OR get this, the warden should have a Cell block for Gays/Other members of the LGBT community so they aren’t in fear for their lives in a fucking department of corrections.
@Lashondra Deloach Do you actually think that is possible from a ground level management standpoint to move every prisoner the instant they want to be moved? I would like for you to step through that in your mind as if you are in the real world, not a movie.
I’ve been in Prison in 2 separate states LA and TX. When you are roomed with a homosexual and they request to be moved. They are suppose to take that matter very seriously. Proper protocol is he should’ve never been allowed to go back in that cell once requesting to be moved. That Prison is at fault
@@Shane661 No dumdum the people working at the prison just breached standard operating procedure big time and basically allowed a gay guy get killed when it didnt have to happen.
Disagree. Shit happens and not everything can be under control 24/7. They have their patrol time, they are monitoring etc, but you can't individually control hundreds of people without loosing them for a moment. I can easily kill at least 2 people in front of a police station, before getting stopped. Should you sue the department because they couldn't teleport in front off me in time? lol
Somebody fucked up. Have you ever been in a zoo? You can't put a zebra and a lion in the same cage. Why do you defend mistakes? Please, get sober before your next reply.
I thought that making shit up was a characteristic of the one drunk and not the other way around. You can invent all sort of cute circumstances to fit your point LMAO. Dafuq do you know what happened?! For what you know nobody knew that the guy was so opposed to homosexuality to a point where he was inclined to even murder. They probably didn't know shit about his inclinations. Easy to just make shit up, please, get sober before your next reply.
You do not disagree. You are doing something else. If you would disagree then you would tell us why you could put a wild lion a zebra in the same cage. But you can't, because it is not possible. The zebra would die. My example might be weak, but you should understand what I am talking about. Why do you think they never put different gang members in the same cage? Because people would die in large numbers. And it would be very hard to pretend the existence of rehabilitation. Somebody fucked up due to lack of control/organization :)
Exactly.. they knew what the outcome would be.. I can’t fault this man.. he would be a walking target.. who knows what the gay cell mate was doing or saying in that cell..
Kas most people fail themselves but thats why we need prison reform, so they can better themselves. treat someone like an animal they become an animal. you never put a gay guy in gen pop everyone knows this smh
@sash c not in gen pop thats sending him to his dead. you go to serve your time and get out not get immediately put to death, the police knew he was going to get killed it doesn't take a ex con or a smart person to know this
The jail knew what they were doing when they put him in that tank. All jails or prisons have charts on everyone. They know exactly who they put in a cell together. The jail should be held accountable for the murder of this man.
Dutchy McSmoka u idiot. im not saying in every situation its a cops fault but in this case it is. They put a homosexual into a tank with a gang member, thats like putting a cat in a cage with a dog. only an idiot like yourself cant figure that out. He even warned them and they just sat there and wanted to see what will happen. Like i said they know everyones sexual orientation and gang affiliation in a any correctional facility. so be stupid and like youre own comment because your as ignorant as they get.
You can't assume that, a lot of them gays are not flamboyant gays, they aggressive masculine gays, meaning they will try you and u have to get em before they get you
This man asked to be moved and they didn't so they should be to blame not him. He tried to get away from the situation but was denied. I'm not condoning what he did but he did ask for help
Samuel L. Jackson you're right they can't move every inmate but the gay guy came on to him and he asked to be moved because of it...now let's just say he took the gay dude on his offer, had they been caught in the act they would of been punished and moved from one another IJS
+James Earl Cash Ill Cash App $500 to anybody if they can tell me where in the bible does it describe what a male or female looks like so we could distinguish what is what
B Lee you gotta read it yourself if you don't know where it is in Bible you haven't read it not to be a smart ass.but each man have to find their own knowledge
what did you expect? the guy asked to be moved and nobody did anything about it this is jail.....it's eat or be eaten. being associated with a gay makes you look gay......which will make you a target. he did what he had to do to survive in the jungle if there's anyone to blame it's the prison guards that ignored his request to be moved
@@Diegoshadow85 You clearly know nothing about how US prisons operate. It is very common for the guards and staff to match cell mates based on a lot of factors. This includes race, sexual orientation, gang affiliation, etc. This is to preemptively reduce instances such as the case in the video. The system failed. You are wrong here.
When you’re dealing with a lot of hyper masculinity, I think it’s critical that prisons pay attention to these concerns. It’s still not right that he killed him.
@@carfent8444 that's what i was thinking, he prob got paranoid he'd stick his **** in his mouth while he was sleeping or some shit Ppl gotta understand that everyone in prison is on edge constantly, there's a reason they say people who go to prison come out career criminals
Y'all are borderline justifying killing another human being based on assumptions just because he was gay. Can y'all please check yourselves before coming onto the internet to say dumb shit
@@CapoElChivo You don't know what happened Other guy probably assaulted him and thought he could get away with it I don't think the guy was the aggressor Notice how they didn't allow him to tell his part of the story
@Clifford your big red God yes its jail, and yes you get what you deserve. But he did asked to be moved soooo we cant really say its his fault, he warned them 🤷🏼♂️ i dont have anything against gays but if i was inna cell and i didnt fw whatever the dude was on then I wouldn’t wanna be in there either. I bet he had patience too, the other inmate was probably on some weird shit and he couldnt do anything about it in a cell.
Honestly he requested to move prison life is different, he life’s at risk if people thinks dudes gay, prison staff knows this, makes me think they ignored it on purpose
@@tmobereola you are supposed to move them as soon as the say they want to move especially if it has something to do with sexuality or danger. Gay men and straight men are not supposed to share cells and all the COs there knew that.
beastlopez1527 Yeah in sum prisons if u want to move they make you sign a contract with ur new cellie that locks ya'll in for at least 3months before ur able to switch again. If ur lucky enough. JS
Ryan Waterman what would that solve? The death penalty is a barbaric practice datinf all the way from the medieval days, Also it would keeo the defendant from justice by putting him out of his misery and not having to live with the fact that he killed a man. The problem with the US is that we waste taxes on inmates every year because its all avout punishment when the system should be based on "rehabilitation". Germany and other countries in the EU have a justice system based on "rehabilitation" instead of punishment and they have a better success at it when we do. All because republicans want us to waste taxes and so the prison system and even the private prisons can make their millions. We gotta stop thinking out of feelings and start thinking with our brains.
I hope robots will eventually replace prison officers. that way they can't be harmed and the prisoners can live without fear of dying. they need to do their time, they don't need to be tortured. robots won't be able to treat the prisoners inhumanely, they will have superior programming to not allow that.
@@matthewtantoco5987 Just cause you don't understand why doesn't mean it's dumb. If you're not aware on how certain things go in prison then I'd suggest you do your research.
Yona Avraham hey man I got housing to seal with a gay guy a guy down the block told me hey man we need to do a transfer that's what you talking about in the guy said I need to be in that cell man apparently that was his girlfriend that got put in the cell with me
I agree.........not everyone gets to see and experience how spiteful, uncaring, crazy and disturbing!!! most grown adults are! The reality of what makes some folk cum is beyond repulsive..........and often times, things as such is solely for their entertainment. Whether to sit back and yap about it, or to be entertained by sitting back and watching said person deteriorate......or whatever arrives from what they've set up/instigated
Yona Avraham you have the most accurate comment that I've read yet.. I guarantee you that's what happened that man ask to be moved and those cops were probably making jokes
Yona Avraham they set him up i can tell from the witnesses...the guy probably was someone who didnt play and didnt "follow the rules" so they set him up to fail....he went for the okey dokey...
So they finally move him to isolation but it took him killing someone for them to do it? That suggest that they certainly could have done it prior to the death of the deceased inmate.
they know that, they 100 perxent know that shit, they do that shit on purpose, its one less inmate and another less person with out freedom, its all their plan
Thats what killers do 🤷🏻♀️ kill . I still think the jail should be responsible for this incident. Like i said if they woulda moved his cell they gay man would still be alive
I do have to ask, though... If it's true that Madden would have been killed by the other inmates for sharing a cell with a gay man, how did the gay man himself go without getting murdered prior to this? Was it the threat of death or the loss of reputational face?
So everybody who asks to be moved should be moved immediately, as in right now? There are so many people in this comment section who will not or cannot apply basic logic.
His actions are inexcusable - however if he specifically said he didn’t want to be in a cell with him because he is gay they should have moved him immediately - they didn’t protect the victim
facts. anyone that knows anything or has ever been in a penitentiary knows that shit doesnt fly...ur housed with them ur one of them and that aint something u want associated with u in there.
Ppl dont want to be in a cell with someone else continuously.... If you believe ppl should not be forced to be locked up with someone 24/7 bc it will lead to problems, you should advokate for single cells. How long does it take for a loving married couple to be in eachothers hair you think, if they are locked up in a small room 24/7 ? I rest my case.
@naya nihak Im almost positive he’s not homophobic. If he was, i doubt he’d requested a transfer. He would’ve killed him off rip. Him having a gay celly could’ve cause unnecessary fights and dangerous rumors. Prison politics ≠ outside world logic. To us it’s homophobic. It’s deeper than that
Maybe because everyone asked to be removed from the cell when they're with a gay inmate. But the gay guy has to be with someone. The staff couldn't know that he would kill them.
The ultimate responsibility of this murder falls upon the killer. Stop blaming the prison. He said that he didn't like the guy and "wasn't into that," he didn't say that he was going to harm the guy so therefor it wasn't a dangerous threat. If he had threatened him then they have the responsibility to move him ASAP. Non-threatening moves can take a couple of hours to complete. You have to submit the moves for approval, check PREA scores and then notify the control center of the move. Then control center must double check everything. Moves have to be made at a non-restrictive time. Blame the idiot and stop making excuses for him. The "It's always someone else's fault," is a cop out.
They have to take responsibility for this too, that young man may still be alive if they had just moved the other man. I know prison isn’t comfortable but they still have an obligation to protect the prisoners, and they failed.
*The only time anyone cares is AFTER tragedy.* *If they did a story on how Prisoner's can get moved from any cell because they're uncomfortable, people would be complaining that they're too easy on convicted criminals.*
I did 5 years and NOBODY gives a shit about u. If u get a cellmate that's not your race,u ask to be moved. Which never works so u both have to fight. It's just how it is. If u don't,your own race will beat u down. They should have known better than to put a gay with this guy. But like I said, nobody cares.
@@dipdip907 How are they supposed to know he was gonna kill hm im dumbass. Thousands of cellmates each day request transfers because they "dont like their cellmate" You idiots are really shifting blame from the killing. Sickening
@@tt-ln4mc because those are the rules in prison. You don't live with different races and you don't live with homosexuals. COs know this and take advantage of it.
@@cooterscooter3202 That is not a rule at all. You can be put in any cell, doesnt matter race or sexual orientation. You can REQUEST a move for sexual orientation, but doesnt mean its granted. And requesting a move for race is never a thing
Do you guys really think they're going to give him life for killing a Black homosexual he will get out some day he was black not white so yes he will have a release date
@@ungobungo7986 says who? I've seen dudes locked up with gay ppl in their cell, and they actually treated them like ppl. It's when people cross a line is when things get serious, but nobody here even knows if that was the case.. we all just want to act ignorant as hell and stick up for somebody for other reasons.
@@davidlenz9902 You presume I'm sticking up for this guy when I am really using logic to understand that given no choice people tend to choose survival. I don't know what yards your friends have been on, but any I've seen if there is a homosexual in your cell he rolls up or you are gay.
@@DJ-ov2it What about it ? Did he go any further then his cellmate to be removed from the cell 🤔. Therefore I can't say what rights he had at that moment , but yes he have rights.
The victim could’ve been simply effeminate and not gay at all; posing no sexual threat to him at all. And even if he were gay, who says he was going to make advances on the murderer? I hope the murderer heals if he’s in the right state of mind. But, who knows, he may suffer with all kinds of mental problems aside from possibly suffering with sexual orientation himself. Again, who knows! Just hope he eventually gets the help he needs.
vutube379 Where in the video has it said that the gay man took any sexual advantages on him??? And why are you assuming that he sexually assaulted him and just because he's gay??
vutube379 Who the fuck cares if a gay man flirts with you once just tell them no and then I'll leave you alone. It's not that hard. What if you found a girl cute and you were flirting with her and she turned out to be a lesbian does that all the sudden give her the right to murder You In Cold Blood?
Queen of The marshmallows!! See, you answered your own question. If a gay man flirts with a straight man, it just demonstrates gay men have no boundaries of respect for others. Bottom line: Don't flirt with straight men. It may be hazardous to your health.
Killed 2 with one stone. Eliminated one and got another for life. Now they need the police to replace the one eliminated so the prison can keep making that money.
@@dalfokane THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS ? SOMEONE COMMITS A CRIME AND GETS SENTENCED TO PRISON ! AND IF ENOUGH PEOPLE COMMIT CRIMES THEN THEY BUILD A NEW PRISON !! UMM IM PRETTY SURE THATS HOW IT WORKS !! LOL,,OR ARE ALL PRISONS FILLED WITH INNOCENT PEOPLE JUST WALKING DOWN THE STREET MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS !!1 HAHAHA
I worked in corrections for 20 years. The inmates are supposed to be assessed in several.different areas before being placed in a room with someone - if there is a complaint this should have been addressed also. The prison is also responsible
All these people saying the prisons needs to be held responsible... You're exactly the problems we have in society. Take responsibility for your actions for once!
@@lucasargandona4658 doesn't matter if he made a move or not. 1.They shouldn't have left them together. 2. He shouldn't have killed him. Wether or not he made a move is irrelevant.
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Breath Again Prisons have about 2000 to 1000 people locked up in facility. Everyday dozens of people put in love request but there is a process that goes before u are moved except for when u say someone threatened your life and was gonna harm you which this ain't definitely the case(and then u kept in solitary where no one wants to really be). There is a classification team that actually works on a height, weight, race, past gang affiliation, and custody level criteria which will put people in same housing areas which people who should likely equal(strength, age and race wise)... When an inmate puts a move slip for a reason which is not considered an life Threatening by himself then the corrections people have to do an investigation as well as try classifying him with another matching housing area. This takes time. Note if you say you are in a life threatening situation y'all get moved out that second. Y'all get put in solitary. People that don't know nothing about serving time be saying whatever in the internet. If the just moved people by them saying then the whole day in the pen activities won't run cus all CO's gon do is move around. Mfs petty af there, he gon move to a new spot, gamble, borrow, have a fight and ask to get move to another spot, do the same and the cycle goes. That's not how shit works. There are rules to follow and they seemingly are the best so far. Stay your ass outta jail...
StarBoy Smith , your very last sentence is on point. If he wasn't committing crimes he wouldn't have to worry about dude sex playing him. Well said. Stay out of jail. Plain and simple
My name is Primo. I've served time before and I have seen death up close and personal. I know for a fact that the u.s. department of corrections really doesn't care who lives or dies behind those walls. That's why they didn't move him.
This isn’t the first time the jails ignored a request to move and something like this happens. If someone requests to move it’s probably for a good reason.
@@altaccwdf7516 in jail reputation is the only thing you have. People obv get bored in there and gossip. That was a gay guy and he was not gay. Rumors are a real thing.
@@RandomPerson-lz1uq right people get killed for being gay in prison and if that man had a reputation and rumors got Around like that he couldve been killled.
@Roid Astria Yep! But I do feel like jail/prison is a place where criminals go for them to learn they lessons treating them like animals will make them animals if they maybe get a psychiatrist for each inmate give them a chance maybe they'll learn something different and see the world for something new. Just my opinion but they're seen as "Animals" and treated like them they're not seen as "human beings" since they committed a crime.
There should be no such thing as "cellmates". Prisoners shouldn't have physical access to each other at all most of the time, let alone have to sleep together. Our justice system is EVIL.
That’s y people don’t mind going to prison in America. Everyone has so many rights and has such a nice stay. While we are paying taxes for paying for murderers or rapist get to live great in a prison. Maybe if our prison were worse people would rethink committing crimes.
@@daqueen3188 What the absolute f*ck are you talking about, the conditions in American prisons and jails are horrible and inhumane. Fairly normal people go in and they come out hardened criminals.
@@daqueen3188 bullshit ! In Iceland they literally make sure every prisoner gets an apartment and a job once they get out…. Is it wrong to treat someone who made a mistake good? Please don’t tell me you’re Christian😉
@@daqueen3188 do I agree with crime? No, however it’s a broad spectrum, in some states you can go to jail for drinking in public , and in a lot of states marijuana is illegal. Should those people be punished for their entire lives, and thrown in with the wolves that commit horrible crimes? No, however I also believe that prison should be about actual reform, if we actually helped them while in there to give them tools to better themselves on the outside, there wouldn’t be so many repeat offenders.
If I were an inmate and I felt very uncomfortable with the presence of a black man in my cell, would I be just as entitled to a transfer? If he felt uncomfortable being shoehorned with a gay man then what would make the sentiment more justified than the perceived threat of a cellmate of another race or color?
A woman would not feel safe locked up alone with a man. It is for the exact same reason that a man would not feel safe locked up with a homosexual. This would have been painfully obvious to you if you weren't trying to unlock a new level of wokeness.
You will need to explain how you’ve just made a (false) logical equivalence between a hypothetical straight male in the first scenario and a hypothetical gay male in the second. Are you assuming that the gay guy is a clear and present danger to the straight guy? There’s a reason we separate the sexes in contexts beyond prisons and not sexual orientations, because the latter would generally be considered a violation of the highest law of the land (constitutional law). I’m not sure what you mean by “wokeness.” I’m just trying to understand how you’ve come to equate the threat level of a male prisoner to a female prisoner with that of a gay male prisoner to a straight male prisoner. The female straights and gays don’t seem to have a problem with cohabitation. So I don’t see why this civility can’t apply to male prisoners. If we permit and enforce segregation based on sexual orientation then we should also permit separation based on race and ethnicity and religion, because are those not also legitimate threat referents?
@@Matthew-xn5yj A woman locked up alone with a man would fear getting raped. She would request to be moved and her request should be accepted. A man locked up alone with a homosexual would fear getting raped. He would request to be moved and his request should be accepted. Now obviously being the woke person that you are, you're fine with the first scenario but not with the second. The reason being "straight men" is not a group you care about. You don't think there's any discrimination in that first scenario and you're sure as hell not gonna compare it to discrimination based to race & ethnicity because it's obvious that it's not the same. However, the second scenario involves a group you care a lot about: gay men. You're uncomfortable with the idea that gay men are viewed as potential rapists, even though you're fine with straight men being viewed the same way. Your priority is no longer the protection of the potential victim but not to hurt the feelings of an "oppressed group".
This is an awful argument. As a homosexual myself, it's the same way as if a straight man was with a woman. Would the woman not fear rape in a *prison*? They should have moved him. The guy shouldn't have been murdered, but the system is also at fault for not listening.
Widenalage this is nothing do with race? And where is that into from? He also killed another black man for nothing other than being gay, doesn’t matter if he said to move him (obviously they should of) you don’t get to make demands and then kill someone because you don’t get your own way and then pass blame to the people who didn’t listen. Imagine I said “better fire than black guy or I’m gonna come back and kill him cos I don’t like him working here” would you blame me for being a racist murderer or the company for not firing him? Obvious answer right
D Griffin if you’re in prison, and the guards put a gay man in your cell you have 2 options. You can either ignore it and become a giant target in the cell block, (if you affiliate with gays in prison, you will definitely become a target) or you could beat the gay dude up to show the cell block you don’t rock like that. Prison is a completely different world, it has its own politics and economy. Don’t act like you know about prison til you’ve been inside
@Tristan Wright That aint how it goes. Cant call someone gay while being a booty bandit yourself. People aint really down with *taking* dudes like that
@@saw141 you know nothing about prison life apparently!! It's not the outside and our rules don't apply in there!!! Take your stupid ass to prison and you'd NEVER last an hour!!
The warden knows what goes on better than anyone else there. What an inmate has seen once, they have seen a dozen times or more. They cannot claim ignorance.
Tjay 000 lol😄 🤔 by your logic, A guy in jail for not paying his speeding tickets should be murdered by his cell mate because they don't get along and it's not the "Holiday Inn"..... WOW ! Smfh
Tjay 000 i'm not taking up for him, all im saying is if two ppl are not getting along to prevent things like this from happening don't put them together. Rather you know it or not prisons have a responsibility of keeping inmates safe from one-another. It is their negligence that caused his death. Regardless of what kind of person he was...
In most state prisons all known gay men are housed in a special unit to try to keep disruptions down cause guys would literally be fighting over who belonged to who in a sexual relationship type of way. I do believe that a lot of these guards do this deliberately knowing the possible outcome. This is just common sense. Why would you house a known gay guy in the same cell with a quote unquote straight guy whom was possibly known to be violent and had issues with homosexuality. A lot of shit is swept under the rug when it comes to prisoners. If a prisoner doesn't have someone on the outside strongly behind them then anything is possible to happen to them and little or nothing will be done. If I were that inmate who was killed family I'd be suing the hell out of prison from the warden on down. Prisoners are humans just like the rest of us and they deserve equal justice. The prisoner who killed him is the punk.
Taylor Granados you're absolutely correct, The gays usually do have a unit all to themselves. And the fact dude said he had a problem wit gays, and asked to be moved, and they dnt do it, was the reason he died??? Oh I'd sue too !
I’ve heard of it, but I don’t believe it’s everywhere. Some jails will just put you in segregated housing, which seems more like a punishment than an accommodation.
@Clifford your big red God it's not special treatment some prisons make sure child molesters, child murders, or people who do a incredibly terrible crime ( like kill someone then chop them up then eat them) are sperated because the other prisoners will single them out. Doesn't mean they have better cells or food.
@@stevecole3192 they knew what would happen.. they knew how it would end up. this isnt something that has never been seen before they know how shit goes and thats why shit happens they do these thingso n purpose
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The prison is responsible. All they had to do was separate them.
Whoa whoa whoa!! The prisons fault?? Yes partly but all of it??? No way!! He killed someone because he didn’t like the fact that he was gay!! Not all the prisons fault!!
@@AnthonydREDWAVE Yes it's entirely the prisons fault, the man voiced his concerns and they didn't care. The result is not shocking, prison is nothing like the "free" world, it's a dog eat dog place.
@@WilliamStewart1 no the hell it’s not all the prisons fault!! He killed someone for being gay!!! Helllooooo???!!! You can’t justify that 100% percent! He didn’t do anything to that man!! There is no excuse for killing a man who hasn’t done anything to you!! Once again, blame others!! It’s not his fault! He made me do it! I can tell your a typical far left liberal idiot!!
@@AnthonydREDWAVE Put your in his position or even a family member. If your dad had the same problem because someone was acting sexual with him in a gay manner and your dad warned and pleased the officers to be separated and nothing resulted obviously things will get worse. That man didn’t have respect for himself nor the cell mate, i bet if your dad killed him you’d agree and be saying the same thing as @Will S
Them people are racist
When u put a gay dude in a cell with a str8 dude, it messes up the reputation of the str8 guy and makes him a target
Mario Saint exactly
"Str8"
u r right. n he wasn't down with that shit
Boom
@@jamesgreen2615 *Edit: His other ignorant comment got deleted so you lose context of my comment: Yeah "Boom"... boom is the last thing you're gonna hear when your dumbass gets shot by a cop because you think you're hard.*
*You're a loser. Seriously.*
*Be a man for once, instead of an immature little punk that idolizes criminal lowlifes.*
If other inmates think your gay too your life becomes at risk as well. The prison officers knew that. They are 100% accountable.
bro come on, 100% accountable? he killed the man in cold blood. they had to put the dude somewhere, and it’s not like they consistently ignored his pleads to move, he killed the dude after TWO DAYS.
@@whoisjordan1546 you obviously don’t understand how prison works dude so stfu abt shit u know nothing about
@@whoisjordan1546 it’s against code to put a gay inmate in with a straight one anyways for reasons like this
@@hiimfred9879 that code should change and you people should learn to behave like such.
@@jam6636 haha. Good one.
I was in prison for 11 years and I can tell you, Nobody asks that for No reason. The prison knew and provoked this.
Sure
11 years? Bro what did you do? 💀
@@kkiller1438 lmfao
@@kkiller1438 manslaughter
@@LGBTQ-NeinDanke wtf 💀💀💀💀
When my man says, “Move me, I don’t like rocking with gay people, especially in a cell!”, then move him!! Simple as that!! Could have 110% been avoided by the jail!!
@@unofficialbeautyqueen6624 that's just a myth
@@davidordman1991 no it aint
@@unofficialbeautyqueen6624 no this is not a gay porn movie idiot
@@unofficialbeautyqueen6624 clearly that’s not true dumbass
@@JoeDirtisawsome it is, can’t you tell by watching this vid
He asked to be moved, the prison is responsible for putting his life in danger. They have the blood of the other dude on there hands.
@Rogu's Library well what he suppose to do if the prison wont move him?prison is to blame
Their. Sorry, but, basic grammar.
i basically wrote the same thing 2 days before you and i got 24 likes and you got 142. Wtf. im just saying lol
I think the killer had the blood on his hands. Not that he gives af
True
The jail bascially got that dude killed they should of move him
Butter Margarine both families should
It's not their fault that guy is biased against gay people
It’s not a hotel though
Everybody’s Everything doesn’t mean he should get molested in his sleep and lose his credibility with the likely outcome of gang rape.
Well actually, you’re right. Welcome to jail
He said “ Look I’m in prison for a reason so change my cell”
And the prison said “ Frankly I don’t think you earned that tear drop”
🤦🏾♂️
Facts…a man died because they ignored prison politics
I bet one of the guards didn’t like the gay inmate.
🤣🤣🤣
I'm dead 😆
I shouldn't laugh at a man's death, but this is a funny comment.
This is what happens in prison when the staff doesn’t take their job seriously 🤷🏼♂️
Wrong
@@motorvaderlapstrake7238 oh ok
@@motorvaderlapstrake7238 right
@@aswbridgez4056 ❤️
Its just cops not giving shit about blacks like always
It's common for the prison staff to ignore request like this. It's like they want you uncomfortable as they can make you.
Actually no! Once an inmate makes a request or complaint like that they are usually immediately separated. They respondingbofficer whom revived the request/complaint is duty bound by law to ask the inmate. Do you feel as though you are a danger to yourself and or others? If the officer did not do this then the prison is at fault. However that would be looked over and rendered moot since the inmate will be judged sane and therefore able to stand trial. That brother is gonna die in prison.
@@stephenscott7854 Dude, in the words of some idiot I heard talking to another asshole in a very bad place: "It's obvious y'ain't never been nowhere..." Guards and staff are bigger criminals than any guy locked up in there.
Prison is supposed to be comfortable?
@@unclecreed2986 Doing anything to make it less comfortable (add more punishment) is unconstitutional in the USA, making the guards literally the more serious criminal. The punishment is removal from society. Some guard deciding to turn the heat down in winter to make people sick is illegal (sadly, they are almost never punished for shit like this. Only the very worst guards are brought down, by prisoners on occasion. And the prisoner who does so is making a huge sacrifice. He is usually tortured for doing so).
That sucks.
He asked to be moved. Some don’t ask
Insane Bogart9 HE DOESNT HAVE ANY WANTS FOH
KADE CADE obviously he did because be killed the guy..they couldve saved the guy's live by just listening to the inmate..this couldve been avoided
Jermaine Woods yup
Jermaine Woods EXACTLY!!!
Insane Bogart9 somebody needs to off his bitch ass. Point blank.
His responsibility was to let the CO’s know he has a problem, and it’s their responsibility to determine how the situation should be resolved. They chose not to act so every employee he told should be charged with criminal negligence at the very least.
Facts....frfr this man warned him
I think you're wrong your in prison for a reason you don't get to choose your accomodations but you absolutely don't have the right to murder someone because of there love preference this kid should get death penalty
No. If you’ve ever worked in a prison then you would know that just moving cells isn’t as easy as that. If you do it for one person twenty more want to do it next. This man killed another man, that is his fault. Don’t act like prisoners are so entitled to what they want because they are not. Prison isn’t a fun happy place where you asked to be moved and the CO’s just smile and comply. Y’all live in a fantasy land I swear.
They do this on purpose, they’ll knowingly put rival gang affiliates in the same cell
A Prison is not a Hotel, you just cant ring Reception + ask for a better room with a sea view.
Its a prison idiot...Dont do the crime, simple, I personally like Prisons to be Hell holes, designed to deter future criminals ending in prison.
Its always they, not we... They didnt tell you to commit a crime and go to prison, they didnt; tell you to kill your own either
@@chiefs5822 sometimes you don’t have a choice, sometimes shit happens in the heat of the moment, there is no don’t do the crime you won’t go to jail, I’m pretty sure me and you both know that
@@kevindc4961 the fact you think because you don’t commit a crime you won’t go to jail is crazy to me, especially for you to think that way in today’s day and age, it doesn’t make sense
@@kevindc4961 u like prison to be like hell when it’s supposed to help reform niggas but then wonder why shit like this happen; why it’s demons walkin around you fuckin goofy
While he made his own decision and killed this man on his own volition, this would not have happened had his request been taken seriously! The prison needs to be held just as responsible.
If he let the man in the jail politics would find the killer as gay and then he would get treated as such (rape)
yea right. he didn't even know what would happen of his request.. he gave them 2 HOURS before killing the dude.. hardly a reasonable amount of time to fulfill a transfer request
@@fpscanada3862 when its made clear having them together poses a threat to one or both of them they are responsible for removing the threat. That means acting a hell of a lot faster than 2 hours.
@@fpscanada3862 How long does it take to move someone from a cell to another location. I'm sure it didn't take two hours to "transfer" the killer to an isolation room.
@@robertfrapples2472 lmfao.... dude. The prison doesn't revolve around that guy. Could have been a million reasons why they didn't move him RIGHT THAT SECOND like you seem to expect them to.
Anybody who is actually trying to get out of prison wouldn't throw it all away because there was a gay in his cell for 2 hours.
oh and also, how hard is it to stay out of the penitentiary?
These so called "gangstas" are nothing but feminine bltches who grew up without a man in their life. Thinking the whole world revolves around their bum ass
I’m not supporting murder. I believe taking someone’s life is wrong. But I blame the prison. He asked to be moved and they ignored it. This mans death could’ve been avoided
Exactly
@@Diegoshadow85 Shutup dumbass.
Dr. Dem how? Hes actually right, fuck you. You just talk to talk say something productive
Kamari Smith bruh he kill a man for no reason just because he touched his tv? Wtf man it’s simple bro don’t touch my shit and don’t say shit to me and we won’t have any problems and dude he killed didn’t look like nothing serious
@@Diegoshadow85 nigga are you dumb he asked to be moved to a new cell and he gave a very specific reason to it, its why I don't blame the guy but I blame the prison.
What the hell are they doing, the people who run the prisons? It is shameful.
I mean it's not liek the dude was trying to have sex with him or kiss him. They didnt think he'd be dead in a day just minding his own business.
@turkeyman631 I wonder what the man who got killed was in prison for
They thought the shit was funny. Sadly, a life was lost because of that.
complete negligence. That lady should be fired for even putting them in that situation. Prison isn't no game or college dorm
She probably did what she could. Most moves are made by the warden. So her recommendation to move him would have sat on his desk for months before a move would be given the okay
How bout that dude just not kill people? Ever think of that?
@@lasergabe people who end up inside usually aren't good at controlling impulse. Impulsive behaviour is what get s most locked up.
@@lasergabe true but we got to b realistic too, they should have moved him
I don't see any Feminist, any LGBTIP+, or any BlackLivesMatter... oh right, both of them are black...
Whoever forced them to live together needs to be in prison
stfu he did whats right
@@TTDomiinator you wanna be forced to live with a bisexual? If they can’t work them in prison system then how is bunking individuals in a hostile situation a good idea? I’m open for discussion.
@@TTDomiinator shut the up homophobe
@@Jay_.... did you just learn what the word meant. Nothing he said was homophobic dumbass
They forced themselves to live together. They wouldn’t have that issue if they were free
Bro this was such an obvious fix it almost makes you wonder if the Warden did that shit on purpose.
Really? So you think he's allowed to decide who lives or dies?
@@janetmcarthur5257 Um, no. He's not allowed to do that. What he IS allowed to do is whatever he feels necessary in order to keep his INMATES ALIVE. Anybody with half a brain, ESPECIALLY a WARDEN, would have seen this exact situation coming.
@@lilbacon7777 I said, does that cellmate have the right to decide who lives or dies at his discretion?
My thoughts exactly!
@@janetmcarthur5257 No. Of course not. But would you trust an inmate to care about whether or not he can?
I blame religion. The anti-homosexual movement is almost entirely from religion and its scriptures and texts.
The prison should have moved him. Period. What were they thinking?
They kno what they thinking
@@msdecemberloveangel8236 touche
To kill him
They wanted him to have sex with him cus he gay.
They were thinking they didn’t want to do their job and handle the paperwork. Sad it happened this way man.
I’m not saying anything that hasn’t already been said, but the prison needs to bear some responsibility here
Absolutely, but sadly they won’t
EDIT: Before putting words in my mouth, saying I’m defending a homophobe or that I’m relieving the murderer of responsibility… Use more than half your brain and read my responses below. Thanks.
@@CharlieTooHuman that’s disappointing
But you just said what's been said already 😂😂😂😂😂
@@abdul-jaleeldieng2660 😂😂lmao
No, not really. The prison isn’t obligated to move a prisoner just because they requested to move lol
When you're dealing with criminals, don't treat them like they give a fuck about your laws. He told you to move him. It's a prison. You guys should have known.
You should have said that 4years ago that's how old the clip is lol
@@worldwar4tank962 youtube algorithm made me find it now. And it's still relevant
fuck 'dealing' w a murderer, just take them to the gas chamber or electric chair once convicted
@@GodlessMartyr666 because our justice system never gets anything wrong 🙄
He sure taught them a lesson, LOL. Now he's in for 60 to 90 years. I wonder if he gives a f*** about the laws now? 😆
I was curious as to what Burks had been convicted of, found this:
"Burks had been sentenced to prison in December 2016 for fleeing and eluding police and receiving stolen property, and was classified as level 4 security, according to the lawsuit."
Allegedly other inmates and prison staff not only knew of Burks being gay, but also that Madden was homophobic, and both inmates requested to be separated. Dang...
Now the system has set him up to keep him incarcerated.
Well Madden's in prison until he's at least 95 years old. I can't imagine that level of homophobia was worth it.
They purposely do this to black inmates. A white or Latino/Hispanic inmate would have gotten some leeway.
@@geebee4147It's all they do. They just want bodies to torture and destroy. The prison system is nothing but pure evil.
He said move him, they should of moved him. He gave you guys a heads up. That should at least be respected and done without any hesitation.
They shouldnt respect someone that kills another person because is gay, the should put It with the strongest gay of the prison to see what he does
@@putin173 not everyone has tolerance for homosexuality.
@@racerroe that doesn’t mean you get to just kill people that are gay...
@@timitchell9947 I never said that, what he did is wrong, but he did say something before he did it. They should of listened to him.
@@racerroe So...just because they didn’t move him to a different cell means that he had the right to kill him because...he’s...gay...yeah anyways ummm
He asked for a cell change. The prison failed him
@Rhianão Doesn't change the fact this could have been avoided if the prison staff was sufficiently competent.
jangaderito no ones emphasizing murder 🤦🏾♂️ Obviously we all understand he’s guilty however he still asked for a cell changed and they refused. You’re basically defending the guards like it’s not their fault either 🙄
@Jules Juerez they want to live in their little bubbles for the rest of their lives and be ignorant to real life, they want life to be all fun and games when it is not.
@Jules Juerez Just wanted to say that he submitted the request the same day he killed him.
@Jangadero thats how jail works goofball you put him in there with a straight nigga and you get murked thats normal there nobody to blame but the jail cause they knew this gonna happen :D
The guard that declined transfer should be charged with neglect homicide
its negligent.
Na, he didn't here nothing
Thats nice that people want to blame a guard.
Fact of the matter is that it is not policy in pretty much all prisons worldwide to grant single cells or transfers to another cell if cellmates dont like eachother. Few countries actually make an effort, but are often constricted by number of cells and amount of inmates. Bottom line is it costs money and few people give a shit.
So those 50 that upvoted (many many more in all the comments) should consider what it is they want. If they want things like this not to happen, open your wallet.
It certainly isnt going to lead to a prison guard being prosecuted or even reprimanded. Its policy and only if they have a strong indication it will lead to great harm will they do something in some western countries. In non western countries... not even worth mentioning.
@@StofStuiver very well said, systemic issue rather the guard's
This is no ones fault besides the man who decided to murder his cellmate. If he really wanted to get his point across to the correctional officers, then he could have beat the shit out of his cellmate without killing him, they would then have no choice but to move him.
Doesnt give him the right to murder somebody
BATTY MAN FE
Just by being in the cell with a gay guy was putting HIS life at risk!!! Read the comments
Why can't the prison staff move the man? They don't care at all.
there isnt all that much time for wardens to watch over an unruly lawless savage crowd all the time,
I thought they had different units for homosexuals, for this exact reason.
@@yourhusbandismyboyfriend1714 they usually keep gay ppl together, same like they keep races together and even gangs at times.
Because he doesn't have the RIGHT to be moved to suit his prejudice, just like he didn't have the right to take an innocent life.
@@chegadesuade that’s not how jail or prison works they knew what they were doing. Races don’t even shower at the same times, gays don’t shower with straight people. Prison is not a progressive place it’s a place they lock people up in 4 by 7 foot cells. Guards know how things work, they were bored and wanted to see someone die. I’ve seen guards laugh when people commit suicide or watch as a mentally ill person who shouldn’t be in prison is making a fool of themselves and shitting on themselves. Prison is a sick place and it only functions barely with such rudimentary laws such as these no matter how crude it is it’s the guys fault for murder but guards are to blame for created a scenario that I guarantee they knew the outcome
Prisoners aren't "Politically Correct"...The Prison should have taken immediate action to separate these two.
your comment is the only comment that is spot on and not extra. either "work with me or im gonna work on you" and we mean it every got damn time bra
stfu this isn't a matter of ur "politically correct," all he had to do was have maybe a little self control to not kill him
@@josiahwong3934 fam if this the same place mf was k1ll1n other mf over 2 or 3 ramen noodle packets i think its safe to say aint no control NOTHIN in there but the "ideal morale" of a mf food chain bra. im only goin off my own personal experience though. ive done no research 🤣🤣🤣
@@josiahwong3934 You can’t expect convicts to be moral. It was irresponsible to ignore the move request, especially when given the reason. The prison failed to protect the gay man.
@@josiahwong3934 all the CO had to do was seperate these 2 men OR get this, the warden should have a Cell block for Gays/Other members of the LGBT community so they aren’t in fear for their lives in a fucking department of corrections.
His case manager should have moved him when he asked to be moved cause it put his roommate at risk when you didn't move him.
So everybody who asks to be moved should be moved immediately?
@Lashondra Deloach Do you actually think that is possible from a ground level management standpoint to move every prisoner the instant they want to be moved? I would like for you to step through that in your mind as if you are in the real world, not a movie.
@@jakemccoy bro, you are asking for way too much out of this crowd.
I’ve been in Prison in 2 separate states LA and TX. When you are roomed with a homosexual and they request to be moved. They are suppose to take that matter very seriously. Proper protocol is he should’ve never been allowed to go back in that cell once requesting to be moved. That Prison is at fault
@@Shane661 No dumdum the people working at the prison just breached standard operating procedure big time and basically allowed a gay guy get killed when it didnt have to happen.
The correctional officers involved should be charged. They provoked this.
The prison should be sued for negligence
They should also be in court. Sad story.
Disagree. Shit happens and not everything can be under control 24/7. They have their patrol time, they are monitoring etc, but you can't individually control hundreds of people without loosing them for a moment. I can easily kill at least 2 people in front of a police station, before getting stopped. Should you sue the department because they couldn't teleport in front off me in time? lol
Somebody fucked up. Have you ever been in a zoo? You can't put a zebra and a lion in the same cage. Why do you defend mistakes? Please, get sober before your next reply.
I thought that making shit up was a characteristic of the one drunk and not the other way around. You can invent all sort of cute circumstances to fit your point LMAO. Dafuq do you know what happened?! For what you know nobody knew that the guy was so opposed to homosexuality to a point where he was inclined to even murder. They probably didn't know shit about his inclinations. Easy to just make shit up, please, get sober before your next reply.
You do not disagree. You are doing something else. If you would disagree then you would tell us why you could put a wild lion a zebra in the same cage. But you can't, because it is not possible. The zebra would die. My example might be weak, but you should understand what I am talking about.
Why do you think they never put different gang members in the same cage? Because people would die in large numbers. And it would be very hard to pretend the existence of rehabilitation.
Somebody fucked up due to lack of control/organization :)
The jail killed him they knew what they were doing
Umm no the murderer did
Kylie Richardson oop- 👀
She's saying that they set him up to be killed. You dummies need to read between the lines
Facts
Exactly.. they knew what the outcome would be.. I can’t fault this man.. he would be a walking target.. who knows what the gay cell mate was doing or saying in that cell..
Why they didn't just move him
ThatChiraqboy 141 why he just didn't go to jail ? Let me guess the system was holding him down😂😂😂
ThatChiraqboy 141
This is what they wanted to happen
Bill Turner yep
Sum Mors STFU
Bill Turner if it's a gay fuck ya gonna get killed
Prisons are the worst thing America does.
Moral of the story: Don’t go to prison
Stupid
@@loveskimberly929 yes. You're stupid
@@loveskimberly929 if ur homeless the just buy a home it's the same thing
@rickroll11112 racist
cuz there is no 40oz in prison
It's wrong that he killed him but the prison system failed this fella
How is it wrong?
they fail everyone in there
Nah he failed himself for been there...shit happens in prison....
Kas most people fail themselves but thats why we need prison reform, so they can better themselves. treat someone like an animal they become an animal. you never put a gay guy in gen pop everyone knows this smh
@sash c not in gen pop thats sending him to his dead. you go to serve your time and get out not get immediately put to death, the police knew he was going to get killed it doesn't take a ex con or a smart person to know this
They designed this system for this exact outcome.
AND IT IS GOOD! if u thinking about doing a crime, think again!
@@MetinKing199 hope your dad don’t go to jail for a parking ticket lol cause he’ll be judged by people like you
one less inmate!
Good they should do this way more often
Really? Is that what they did?
If he didn't want to bunk with a gay don't go to prison..as a former inmate, we know.we don't call the shots
Them guards set him up, he had to kill him or he would have suffered severely for years by other inmates.
And if he was a gangmember he would be kicked and become a target for the gang
Yep
tough shit, stay out of jail then
@@Mhats , easy for you to say when you white and not a target 🎯 of blue lives murder
@@mjsmith8641 another racist calling me white, you're like this because of the media you know that right?
yeah he shouldn’t have killed him but however they also should’ve moved him. especially if he requested that
i think it's pretty funny that it escalated because the gay dude touched his tv
@@thatsnotmyname6677 he was fed up lmao
you dont get everything you request esp in prison
Filthy dirty criminal inmates do not get to request jail mates. They take what is assigned and like it. I bet Burks wanted Children.
@Markus Patients jail is supposed to rehabilitate people so...
The jail knew what they were doing when they put him in that tank. All jails or prisons have charts on everyone. They know exactly who they put in a cell together. The jail should be held accountable for the murder of this man.
Dutchy McSmoka u idiot. im not saying in every situation its a cops fault but in this case it is. They put a homosexual into a tank with a gang member, thats like putting a cat in a cage with a dog. only an idiot like yourself cant figure that out. He even warned them and they just sat there and wanted to see what will happen. Like i said they know everyones sexual orientation and gang affiliation in a any correctional facility. so be stupid and like youre own comment because your as ignorant as they get.
Franksta281 bro there isn’t even a comment here, i think you’re losing it
Colbie Kirkland he deleted it
@@Kinzaru do you know how comments work?
@Advocatus Diaboli yes they should they knew what they where doing.
He immediately asked too be moved & stated why. They failed them both . But still no reason too kill the man .
You can't assume that, a lot of them gays are not flamboyant gays, they aggressive masculine gays, meaning they will try you and u have to get em before they get you
Where I work. If a patient asks to be moved for whatever reason, they move the person. Either to another room or unit.
Shonte Moses I believe there's a huge difference between a Patient, and an Inmate.
This man asked to be moved and they didn't so they should be to blame not him. He tried to get away from the situation but was denied. I'm not condoning what he did but he did ask for help
Samuel L. Jackson you're right they can't move every inmate but the gay guy came on to him and he asked to be moved because of it...now let's just say he took the gay dude on his offer, had they been caught in the act they would of been punished and moved from one another IJS
Samuel L. Jackson exactly
Shonte Moses that's mind blowing
Why was he not moved to another cell wow
Because HE DOESN'T RUN THE PRISON. HE'S AN INMATE. CELL CHANGES DON'T HAPPEN THAT FAST
Butta Luv Bullshit they could've just sent him to seg, he told them ol dude was a punk. They let it happen
+James Earl Cash Ill Cash App $500 to anybody if they can tell me where in the bible does it describe what a male or female looks like so we could distinguish what is what
B Lee you gotta read it yourself if you don't know where it is in Bible you haven't read it not to be a smart ass.but each man have to find their own knowledge
+Staci Bailey I have read it and nowhere does it say
what did you expect? the guy asked to be moved and nobody did anything about it
this is jail.....it's eat or be eaten. being associated with a gay makes you look gay......which will make you a target. he did what he had to do to survive in the jungle
if there's anyone to blame it's the prison guards that ignored his request to be moved
@@Diegoshadow85 You clearly know nothing about how US prisons operate. It is very common for the guards and staff to match cell mates based on a lot of factors. This includes race, sexual orientation, gang affiliation, etc. This is to preemptively reduce instances such as the case in the video. The system failed. You are wrong here.
*And if they did as he asked, people would be complaining that prisoner's get what they want.*
If you tell a guard youre going to have an issue and they dont move u thats an automatic lawsuit .
@@notmichaelblackson9512 wrong
@@Diegoshadow85 so just let them kill and fuck each outher then too right?
Good they shouldn’t put no punk in the same cell as a normal person
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@@acthegreat what you didn’t understand. They shouldn’t have put no punk in the cell with a normal person. That fruity niga had it coming
When you’re dealing with a lot of hyper masculinity, I think it’s critical that prisons pay attention to these concerns. It’s still not right that he killed him.
He probably came onto him
@@carfent8444 that's what i was thinking, he prob got paranoid he'd stick his **** in his mouth while he was sleeping or some shit
Ppl gotta understand that everyone in prison is on edge constantly, there's a reason they say people who go to prison come out career criminals
Y'all are borderline justifying killing another human being based on assumptions just because he was gay. Can y'all please check yourselves before coming onto the internet to say dumb shit
It's not right that he was assaulted either He has the right to defend himself
@@CapoElChivo You don't know what happened Other guy probably assaulted him and thought he could get away with it I don't think the guy was the aggressor Notice how they didn't allow him to tell his part of the story
Should of moved him... Point blank PERIOD..
@Clifford your big red God yes its jail, and yes you get what you deserve. But he did asked to be moved soooo we cant really say its his fault, he warned them 🤷🏼♂️ i dont have anything against gays but if i was inna cell and i didnt fw whatever the dude was on then I wouldn’t wanna be in there either. I bet he had patience too, the other inmate was probably on some weird shit and he couldnt do anything about it in a cell.
These Co’s don’t give a shit and are lazy... they won’t do anything unless it’s too late...shame on them and the system
They denied him was so wrong let him been white hmm
Those CO’s knew what they were doing
@@auntyglocky they can make ppl wait weeks and months for request , it’s jail
Honestly he requested to move prison life is different, he life’s at risk if people thinks dudes gay, prison staff knows this, makes me think they ignored it on purpose
i was about to say this, the prison is culpable they know very well the unspoken rules of prison and the risk they were putting on the inmates life
But who would they move him in with? I doubt every prisoner that asks to be moved can.
Everyone is gay in prison. What's the issue?
@@tmobereola you are supposed to move them as soon as the say they want to move especially if it has something to do with sexuality or danger. Gay men and straight men are not supposed to share cells and all the COs there knew that.
You're making excuses for a killer? Ridiculous!
They didn’t take the man’s tear drop serious upon his request.
My fathers been a corrections officer for 23 years if he asks to be moved, you move him
beastlopez1527
Yeah, but sum prisons won't. I'm talking from experience....
Nikko Jackson you’re probably right, always a good and bad
beastlopez1527
Yeah in sum prisons if u want to move they make you sign a contract with ur new cellie that locks ya'll in for at least 3months before ur able to switch again. If ur lucky enough. JS
Nikko Jackson that’s crazy, hopefully they learn from this and other incidents
Nikko Jackson Learn to spell you illiterate, criminal fuck
The correctional system should have moved that man. It would've saved his life. Family should sue
I agree. The inmate should get the death penalty for this too.
Ryan Waterman what would that solve? The death penalty is a barbaric practice datinf all the way from the medieval days, Also it would keeo the defendant from justice by putting him out of his misery and not having to live with the fact that he killed a man. The problem with the US is that we waste taxes on inmates every year because its all avout punishment when the system should be based on "rehabilitation". Germany and other countries in the EU have a justice system based on "rehabilitation" instead of punishment and they have a better success at it when we do. All because republicans want us to waste taxes and so the prison system and even the private prisons can make their millions. We gotta stop thinking out of feelings and start thinking with our brains.
fultzz2010 they can try to sue but it won't work cell mates kill each other all the time and it never makes the news
Donny Waltkins Correct, Cell mates do but this has special circumstances.
Donny Waltkins The guy was gay and killed because he was gay and staff never did anything to even try to prevent his death.
this could have totally been avoided..... they really should have just moved him when he literally asked beforehand
Totally agree💯❗
This is so dumb… youre sayig you had to move someone bc the other guy was gay? Huh?
How are you doing i hope you're doing good it's nice to meet you here 🌹🌹
I hope robots will eventually replace prison officers. that way they can't be harmed and the prisoners can live without fear of dying. they need to do their time, they don't need to be tortured. robots won't be able to treat the prisoners inhumanely, they will have superior programming to not allow that.
@@matthewtantoco5987 Just cause you don't understand why doesn't mean it's dumb. If you're not aware on how certain things go in prison then I'd suggest you do your research.
60 year sentence.
How hard would it have been to move him to another cell? They probably paired them on purpose and laughed when he asked for a transfer.
Yona Avraham It sounds like that’s exactly what they did. A lot of these (especially here in The States) are that sick and corrupt smh
Yona Avraham hey man I got housing to seal with a gay guy a guy down the block told me hey man we need to do a transfer that's what you talking about in the guy said I need to be in that cell man apparently that was his girlfriend that got put in the cell with me
I agree.........not everyone gets to see and experience how spiteful, uncaring, crazy and disturbing!!! most grown adults are! The reality of what makes some folk cum is beyond repulsive..........and often times, things as such is solely for their entertainment. Whether to sit back and yap about it, or to be entertained by sitting back and watching said person deteriorate......or whatever arrives from what they've set up/instigated
Yona Avraham you have the most accurate comment that I've read yet.. I guarantee you that's what happened that man ask to be moved and those cops were probably making jokes
Yona Avraham they set him up i can tell from the witnesses...the guy probably was someone who didnt play and didnt "follow the rules" so they set him up to fail....he went for the okey dokey...
So they finally move him to isolation but it took him killing someone for them to do it? That suggest that they certainly could have done it prior to the death of the deceased inmate.
Exactly!
Y’all so fucking dumb. How bout don’t kill people. Tf
i don’t get why y’all r blaming the staff, the inmate is the one that needs to be checked, it’s not like the gay inmate was hitting on him
@@yuh2620 If the inmate has some issues (Like serious issue's hating gay's) he was kind of giving them a warning. This is very sad though
@@hankb27 Man has killed since day 1
When an inmate says he “can’t” cell up w someone it’s best u understand y. There are laws in prison inmates must abide by.
they know that, they 100 perxent know that shit, they do that shit on purpose, its one less inmate and another less person with out freedom, its all their plan
Agreed!
@@leechking2476 facts! You hit the nail on the head
@Valentina Joy u klearly dotn know how prison works bro and klearly believe everything the internet tells u
@Valentina Joy when you realize criminality is relative to where and when you are. 🤯🤯🤯
Come on why couldn’t they just move Man? No one has a right to kill some one because of their sexual orientation. Praying for for both families. 🕊🕊🕊
In Prisons you don't wanna sit with a gay man because you don't wanna be seen as gay in prison.
This man literally woulda been alive if they woulda moved the guys cell
@ms honey he would also be alive if he was immortal
Thats what killers do 🤷🏻♀️ kill . I still think the jail should be responsible for this incident. Like i said if they woulda moved his cell they gay man would still be alive
who cares
I do have to ask, though... If it's true that Madden would have been killed by the other inmates for sharing a cell with a gay man, how did the gay man himself go without getting murdered prior to this? Was it the threat of death or the loss of reputational face?
So everybody who asks to be moved should be moved immediately, as in right now? There are so many people in this comment section who will not or cannot apply basic logic.
His actions are inexcusable - however if he specifically said he didn’t want to be in a cell with him because he is gay they should have moved him immediately - they didn’t protect the victim
facts. anyone that knows anything or has ever been in a penitentiary knows that shit doesnt fly...ur housed with them ur one of them and that aint something u want associated with u in there.
Ppl dont want to be in a cell with someone else continuously....
If you believe ppl should not be forced to be locked up with someone 24/7 bc it will lead to problems, you should advokate for single cells.
How long does it take for a loving married couple to be in eachothers hair you think, if they are locked up in a small room 24/7 ?
I rest my case.
@naya nihak Im almost positive he’s not homophobic. If he was, i doubt he’d requested a transfer. He would’ve killed him off rip. Him having a gay celly could’ve cause unnecessary fights and dangerous rumors. Prison politics ≠ outside world logic. To us it’s homophobic. It’s deeper than that
It's prison...if he didn't then he might as well be dead. Choices in there are quite different
@@onestar1017 it wasn’t about his choice it was about protecting another prisoner
What’s sad is he asked them to move him and they didn’t but yet taken to an isolation room after 😒🤦🏾♀️
Maybe because everyone asked to be removed from the cell when they're with a gay inmate. But the gay guy has to be with someone. The staff couldn't know that he would kill them.
Still doesn't give him the right to attack and kill a man.
@@modifidious666 they both were killer so Idk What u talking bout
Omg, you feel sorry for this thug? That's ridiculous.
@@hamidkarim4811 put him with another gay guy if you value his life.
The ultimate responsibility of this murder falls upon the killer. Stop blaming the prison. He said that he didn't like the guy and "wasn't into that," he didn't say that he was going to harm the guy so therefor it wasn't a dangerous threat. If he had threatened him then they have the responsibility to move him ASAP. Non-threatening moves can take a couple of hours to complete. You have to submit the moves for approval, check PREA scores and then notify the control center of the move. Then control center must double check everything. Moves have to be made at a non-restrictive time. Blame the idiot and stop making excuses for him. The "It's always someone else's fault," is a cop out.
They have to take responsibility for this too, that young man may still be alive if they had just moved the other man. I know prison isn’t comfortable but they still have an obligation to protect the prisoners, and they failed.
*The only time anyone cares is AFTER tragedy.*
*If they did a story on how Prisoner's can get moved from any cell because they're uncomfortable, people would be complaining that they're too easy on convicted criminals.*
Security better do there job instead of drinking coffee and eating donuts.
I did 5 years and NOBODY gives a shit about u. If u get a cellmate that's not your race,u ask to be moved. Which never works so u both have to fight. It's just how it is. If u don't,your own race will beat u down. They should have known better than to put a gay with this guy. But like I said, nobody cares.
Its not that simple. No one loves their cell mate. they tolerate them. so stay out of prison and u can chose any options you want.
Maybe she kissed his ass do when asked him was there anything else you'd like to have a feather mattress silk sheets
Why couldn’t they just move him? This was completely avoidable smh
this isnt a hotel, you dont get a transfer because you dislike a cellmate
@@tt-ln4mc well these are the consequences. I guess “serving justice” is more important than someones life
@@dipdip907 How are they supposed to know he was gonna kill hm im dumbass. Thousands of cellmates each day request transfers because they "dont like their cellmate" You idiots are really shifting blame from the killing. Sickening
@@tt-ln4mc because those are the rules in prison. You don't live with different races and you don't live with homosexuals. COs know this and take advantage of it.
@@cooterscooter3202 That is not a rule at all. You can be put in any cell, doesnt matter race or sexual orientation. You can REQUEST a move for sexual orientation, but doesnt mean its granted. And requesting a move for race is never a thing
He went from possibly getting out. To never getting out again 🤦🏽♀️
It's easy for you to talk here 😂🤷♂️
Hey boo thang 😘
He wont give you
Do you guys really think they're going to give him life for killing a Black homosexual he will get out some day he was black not white so yes he will have a release date
otis calhoun bull
This is heartbreaking!!! This could have been avoided!!! Why wasn't his request taken seriously?
Meh... no big loss. No loss at all really
@@donarthiazi2443be careful what you speak into existence
@@justkeepitanonymous419 🥱🥱🥱... huh?
You just know those dirty prison guards prayed and done everything they could to make this happen.
I dont think they had to pray.. u kinda just do it
@@Darkdemonoflite can’t understand sarcasm?
Moron
He did nothing wrong
Don’t blame the guards, they just needed the bed space.
Tittle should be “The whole system sets up inmate”
Guy beats other guy to death, and it's the walls fault? Omg..
@@davidlenz9902 dude shut the fook up. Get out of here sensitive fookin loser. Go virtue signal someone else
@@davidlenz9902 if a gay is in your cell you have to make him roll up. Strange that he had to kill him, but not his choice ultimately.
@@ungobungo7986 says who? I've seen dudes locked up with gay ppl in their cell, and they actually treated them like ppl. It's when people cross a line is when things get serious, but nobody here even knows if that was the case.. we all just want to act ignorant as hell and stick up for somebody for other reasons.
@@davidlenz9902 You presume I'm sticking up for this guy when I am really using logic to understand that given no choice people tend to choose survival. I don't know what yards your friends have been on, but any I've seen if there is a homosexual in your cell he rolls up or you are gay.
He still has rights in jail . They could've avoided all of that.
What about the other dudes right to not get murdered?
@@DJ-ov2it What about it ? Did he go any further then his cellmate to be removed from the cell 🤔. Therefore I can't say what rights he had at that moment , but yes he have rights.
@@mzleelee1983 Can u reply in english pls
@@DJ-ov2it No
@@mzleelee1983 ok
The victim could’ve been simply effeminate and not gay at all; posing no sexual threat to him at all. And even if he were gay, who says he was going to make advances on the murderer? I hope the murderer heals if he’s in the right state of mind. But, who knows, he may suffer with all kinds of mental problems aside from possibly suffering with sexual orientation himself. Again, who knows! Just hope he eventually gets the help he needs.
The prison should NOT have bunked a straight man with a homosexual PERIOD!
vutube379
Well GROWN heterosexual men should have the courtesy to know that they have self-control to not kill someone.
Queen of The marshmallows!! And gay men should restrain themselves instead of THINKING all men are game and their advances should be tolerated.
vutube379
Where in the video has it said that the gay man took any sexual advantages on him??? And why are you assuming that he sexually assaulted him and just because he's gay??
vutube379
Who the fuck cares if a gay man flirts with you once just tell them no and then I'll leave you alone. It's not that hard. What if you found a girl cute and you were flirting with her and she turned out to be a lesbian does that all the sudden give her the right to murder You In Cold Blood?
Queen of The marshmallows!! See, you answered your own question. If a gay man flirts with a straight man, it just demonstrates gay men have no boundaries of respect for others. Bottom line: Don't flirt with straight men. It may be hazardous to your health.
Killed 2 with one stone. Eliminated one and got another for life. Now they need the police to replace the one eliminated so the prison can keep making that money.
LOL THEY DONT NEED THE POLICE TO REPLACE THEM ! THERES ENOUGH THUGS OUT THERE BREAKING THE LAW TO GET THEMSELVES IN THERE!!
@@glenncater1 That's not how it works. you need to check your capslock because it seems to be stuck
@@dalfokane THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS ? SOMEONE COMMITS A CRIME AND GETS SENTENCED TO PRISON ! AND IF ENOUGH PEOPLE COMMIT CRIMES THEN THEY BUILD A NEW PRISON !! UMM IM PRETTY SURE THATS HOW IT WORKS !! LOL,,OR ARE ALL PRISONS FILLED WITH INNOCENT PEOPLE JUST WALKING DOWN THE STREET MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS !!1 HAHAHA
I worked in corrections for 20 years. The inmates are supposed to be assessed in several.different areas before being placed in a room with someone - if there is a complaint this should have been addressed also. The prison is also responsible
so according to you they should have protected the murderer
@@jam6636 🤨
@@jam6636 I don't think you understood what he meant at all. 🤦♂️
@@Lama-fe3gv "protect the murderer homophobe from the murderous homophobic environment" thats what he meant.
@@jam6636 I don't feel like explaining, so let's agree to disagree.
All these people saying the prisons needs to be held responsible... You're exactly the problems we have in society. Take responsibility for your actions for once!
Prison isn’t society and is far from it they have their own rules and politics
@@Jordanvzx That's the dumbest thing I've ever read
He warned them.
Exactly. But the question is if that gay man tried to do any moves on him. Or did he kill him just because he's gay. Then that would be bad.
@@lucasargandona4658 doesn't matter if he made a move or not.
1.They shouldn't have left them together.
2. He shouldn't have killed him.
Wether or not he made a move is irrelevant.
Murder is murder. No excuses
K⃟i⃟n⃟g⃟ K⃟i⃟n⃟g⃟ K⃟i⃟n⃟g⃟ K⃟i⃟n⃟g⃟ WGAF what you see me commenting on. Stop stalking me. 😳...A human being should not be killed because of their sexuality. So it’s not wise for you to compare a human, being murdered because of his sexuality to a , human being gay . Also what sins or things do you do in your life that isn’t right. Now compare that to an innocent person being killed just because of their existence.
K⃟i⃟n⃟g⃟ K⃟i⃟n⃟g⃟ K⃟i⃟n⃟g⃟ K⃟i⃟n⃟g⃟ Every comment you see that I have responded to is and will always be towards a negative comment. So you SEE me commenting on people who hide behind faceless profiles spewing hate towards a human being that was murdered because of what gets his dick hard. Now that we got that straight. Why are you interested in the negative comments? Because apparently we have a common interest iin them ? BTW . That was a real question.🤔 #illwait
It's the prison fault.
set up
juanita mitchell , I agree
Breath Again Prisons have about 2000 to 1000 people locked up in facility. Everyday dozens of people put in love request but there is a process that goes before u are moved except for when u say someone threatened your life and was gonna harm you which this ain't definitely the case(and then u kept in solitary where no one wants to really be). There is a classification team that actually works on a height, weight, race, past gang affiliation, and custody level criteria which will put people in same housing areas which people who should likely equal(strength, age and race wise)... When an inmate puts a move slip for a reason which is not considered an life Threatening by himself then the corrections people have to do an investigation as well as try classifying him with another matching housing area. This takes time. Note if you say you are in a life threatening situation y'all get moved out that second. Y'all get put in solitary. People that don't know nothing about serving time be saying whatever in the internet. If the just moved people by them saying then the whole day in the pen activities won't run cus all CO's gon do is move around. Mfs petty af there, he gon move to a new spot, gamble, borrow, have a fight and ask to get move to another spot, do the same and the cycle goes. That's not how shit works. There are rules to follow and they seemingly are the best so far. Stay your ass outta jail...
StarBoy Smith , your very last sentence is on point. If he wasn't committing crimes he wouldn't have to worry about dude sex playing him. Well said. Stay out of jail. Plain and simple
Melanie Willard , true
My name is Primo. I've served time before and I have seen death up close and personal. I know for a fact that the u.s. department of corrections really doesn't care who lives or dies behind those walls. That's why they didn't move him.
HEATHER BELINA
They don't give ashit.
WOW. Thanks 4SHARING
@nunya efin biz SCUMBAG VILE PIG
Why should they?
just because you're gay does NOT give you the right to kill someone
This isn’t the first time the jails ignored a request to move and something like this happens.
If someone requests to move it’s probably for a good reason.
bruh its not like he couldnt have chosen not to kill the dude
@@altaccwdf7516 in jail reputation is the only thing you have. People obv get bored in there and gossip. That was a gay guy and he was not gay. Rumors are a real thing.
@@RandomPerson-lz1uq right people get killed for being gay in prison and if that man had a reputation and rumors got Around like that he couldve been killled.
@Roid Astria Yep! But I do feel like jail/prison is a place where criminals go for them to learn they lessons treating them like animals will make them animals if they maybe get a psychiatrist for each inmate give them a chance maybe they'll learn something different and see the world for something new. Just my opinion but they're seen as "Animals" and treated like them they're not seen as "human beings" since they committed a crime.
If you know anything about prison, he had no choice but to kill him
Fuck you
Urinal got a point tho
Shitanal
Seriously ?
@Polo1400 DAMN ! The USA is Dog a eat Dog WORLD !! I am glad i do not live there !!!
There should be no such thing as "cellmates". Prisoners shouldn't have physical access to each other at all most of the time, let alone have to sleep together. Our justice system is EVIL.
That’s y people don’t mind going to prison in America. Everyone has so many rights and has such a nice stay. While we are paying taxes for paying for murderers or rapist get to live great in a prison. Maybe if our prison were worse people would rethink committing crimes.
@@daqueen3188 What the absolute f*ck are you talking about, the conditions in American prisons and jails are horrible and inhumane. Fairly normal people go in and they come out hardened criminals.
@@daqueen3188 bullshit ! In Iceland they literally make sure every prisoner gets an apartment and a job once they get out…. Is it wrong to treat someone who made a mistake good? Please don’t tell me you’re Christian😉
@@daqueen3188 do I agree with crime? No, however it’s a broad spectrum, in some states you can go to jail for drinking in public , and in a lot of states marijuana is illegal. Should those people be punished for their entire lives, and thrown in with the wolves that commit horrible crimes? No, however I also believe that prison should be about actual reform, if we actually helped them while in there to give them tools to better themselves on the outside, there wouldn’t be so many repeat offenders.
@@daqueen3188 Your just wrong, factually wrong
If I were an inmate and I felt very uncomfortable with the presence of a black man in my cell, would I be just as entitled to a transfer? If he felt uncomfortable being shoehorned with a gay man then what would make the sentiment more justified than the perceived threat of a cellmate of another race or color?
A woman would not feel safe locked up alone with a man. It is for the exact same reason that a man would not feel safe locked up with a homosexual. This would have been painfully obvious to you if you weren't trying to unlock a new level of wokeness.
You will need to explain how you’ve just made a (false) logical equivalence between a hypothetical straight male in the first scenario and a hypothetical gay male in the second. Are you assuming that the gay guy is a clear and present danger to the straight guy? There’s a reason we separate the sexes in contexts beyond prisons and not sexual orientations, because the latter would generally be considered a violation of the highest law of the land (constitutional law). I’m not sure what you mean by “wokeness.” I’m just trying to understand how you’ve come to equate the threat level of a male prisoner to a female prisoner with that of a gay male prisoner to a straight male prisoner. The female straights and gays don’t seem to have a problem with cohabitation. So I don’t see why this civility can’t apply to male prisoners. If we permit and enforce segregation based on sexual orientation then we should also permit separation based on race and ethnicity and religion, because are those not also legitimate threat referents?
@@Matthew-xn5yj A woman locked up alone with a man would fear getting raped. She would request to be moved and her request should be accepted.
A man locked up alone with a homosexual would fear getting raped. He would request to be moved and his request should be accepted.
Now obviously being the woke person that you are, you're fine with the first scenario but not with the second.
The reason being "straight men" is not a group you care about. You don't think there's any discrimination in that first scenario and you're sure as hell not gonna compare it to discrimination based to race & ethnicity because it's obvious that it's not the same.
However, the second scenario involves a group you care a lot about: gay men. You're uncomfortable with the idea that gay men are viewed as potential rapists, even though you're fine with straight men being viewed the same way. Your priority is no longer the protection of the potential victim but not to hurt the feelings of an "oppressed group".
@@Matthew-xn5yj really good argument :)
This is an awful argument. As a homosexual myself, it's the same way as if a straight man was with a woman. Would the woman not fear rape in a *prison*?
They should have moved him. The guy shouldn't have been murdered, but the system is also at fault for not listening.
This is proof that no one really notices you until you do something foolish or crazy
like killing someone because he is gay
+bart schnurr you stated what he said...
It’s the prisons fault because he asked to be moved
Well you are late because he is locked up now ! Another black man falsely accused by false charges
Widenalage this is nothing do with race? And where is that into from? He also killed another black man for nothing other than being gay, doesn’t matter if he said to move him (obviously they should of) you don’t get to make demands and then kill someone because you don’t get your own way and then pass blame to the people who didn’t listen. Imagine I said “better fire than black guy or I’m gonna come back and kill him cos I don’t like him working here” would you blame me for being a racist murderer or the company for not firing him? Obvious answer right
@Korn 1993 Easier said than done, anyone can easily get arrested these days and so can you. ¯\_ʘ╭∩╮ʘ_/¯
@@Widenalage black lives matter!!! Unless you're gay or a cop or Terry crews periodt!!
D Griffin if you’re in prison, and the guards put a gay man in your cell you have 2 options. You can either ignore it and become a giant target in the cell block, (if you affiliate with gays in prison, you will definitely become a target) or you could beat the gay dude up to show the cell block you don’t rock like that. Prison is a completely different world, it has its own politics and economy. Don’t act like you know about prison til you’ve been inside
So, he went from 'might get out someday', to ' nah, Im good, think Ill just stay here.._ forever'?
@Tristan Wright
That aint how it goes. Cant call someone gay while being a booty bandit yourself. People aint really down with *taking* dudes like that
@@GrandeHuevos69
The only thing i was talking about was rape. Which every dude is apparently afraid of when they get arrested
@@gloriouspurpose_ eh, that seems a little to black and white for me. Your name seems more like world with shades of gray.
Lol
@EarlyTrail ET lol, that's why their all in prison.
I hope he never get out on probation, if he does i hope he doesn’t make it in life. I hope all his applications get denied. Petty murder .
Its the prison officials fault, they provoked him. He repeatedly asked to move. They knew what they were doing.
No, it's the guy who decided to murder someone's fault.
Exactly!
@@saw141 you know nothing about prison life apparently!! It's not the outside and our rules don't apply in there!!! Take your stupid ass to prison and you'd NEVER last an hour!!
@@AnastasiaBeaverhousn you've clearly never been to prison. It's not like what you see on TV and in movies.
@@AnastasiaBeaverhousn I'm not a subhuman piece of garbage, so no, I don't know about prison life.
I thought gays had their own section in jails
Well u thought wrong lol
Lmfaoo wtf
in some jails
Idiot, who told u that
@@Bagchaserboys how many of these jails have u been in. The only thing close is P.C and that's non gays aswell....snitches cops
The warden knows what goes on better than anyone else there. What an inmate has seen once, they have seen a dozen times or more. They cannot claim ignorance.
What are they supposed to do? “Hey everybody our new buddy happens to have some different sexual preferences.. who would like to share a bunk bed?”
They really need to change that rule and move u wen ask. Everybody can't just live wit anybody.....
Tjay 000 lol😄
🤔 by your logic, A guy in jail for not paying his speeding tickets should be murdered by his cell mate because they don't get along and it's not the "Holiday Inn"..... WOW ! Smfh
Tjay 000 lol you don't have to be in prison to have a cell mate.... Just locked up.
Tjay 000
i'm not taking up for him, all im saying is if two ppl are not getting along to prevent things like this from happening don't put them together. Rather you know it or not prisons have a responsibility of keeping inmates safe from one-another. It is their negligence that caused his death. Regardless of what kind of person he was...
In most state prisons all known gay men are housed in a special unit to try to keep disruptions down cause guys would literally be fighting over who belonged to who in a sexual relationship type of way. I do believe that a lot of these guards do this deliberately knowing the possible outcome. This is just common sense. Why would you house a known gay guy in the same cell with a quote unquote straight guy whom was possibly known to be violent and had issues with homosexuality. A lot of shit is swept under the rug when it comes to prisoners. If a prisoner doesn't have someone on the outside strongly behind them then anything is possible to happen to them and little or nothing will be done. If I were that inmate who was killed family I'd be suing the hell out of prison from the warden on down. Prisoners are humans just like the rest of us and they deserve equal justice. The prisoner who killed him is the punk.
Taylor Granados
you're absolutely correct, The gays usually do have a unit all to themselves. And the fact dude said he had a problem wit gays, and asked to be moved, and they dnt do it, was the reason he died??? Oh I'd sue too !
Soo.... we all just gonna ignore that almost every jail as a alternative lifestyle section for non-heterosexual people to prevent this?
david lynn it’s only in certain jails.😊
the jail knew what they were doing by putting them together.
Your only gay for the stay ... How do we know he did not wake with his cellmate beating his meat? Should have been more tollerant.
I’ve heard of it, but I don’t believe it’s everywhere. Some jails will just put you in segregated housing, which seems more like a punishment than an accommodation.
@@alexthompson-brim6655 what are you in jail for? Punishment ... Think.
Those guards do not take the request of inmate seriously they think it's a joke and they tend to look the other way they just don't care
It's prison the guards aren't suppose to care for you
MOB 1700 securities should be punished also
He asked to be moved. He tried to address conflict resolution before it escalated.
Prison! Stay out so you can control your own destiny.
Seems like he's where he belongs though.
He should of been moved.He asked.The prison should be accountable
Why didn’t they move him , I thought homosexuals were suppose to be kept separate anyway
Well you thought wrong =)
You oughta know sweetie
@@baldilocks1914 alright sweet cheeks
Lots of jails separate them but I guess this one didn't.
@Clifford your big red God it's not special treatment some prisons make sure child molesters, child murders, or people who do a incredibly terrible crime ( like kill someone then chop them up then eat them) are sperated because the other prisoners will single them out. Doesn't mean they have better cells or food.
The prison is 100% accountable, cmon all you had to do was move him to another cell.
one less to pay for thank you
No. The Madden killed him. Period. Blame blame blame everyone else but the person who does the crime.
@@stevecole3192 they knew what would happen.. they knew how it would end up. this isnt something that has never been seen before they know how shit goes and thats why shit happens they do these thingso n purpose
Exactly
Or seg at least
There is no reason to kill anybody.
Theres every time a reason
You don’t know what really happened though