I have this tent so a couple of things that might help. Its not seam sealed, you might get away with it but probably best to do it. Ventilation, you've got to open the vents, otherwise you'll be soaked and cold, this is no different to any 4 season tent. Ventilation is key. Cooking with no door open, again will seriously add to the issue. You can pitch rear and front into wind, front into wind allows deformation to take place in the vestibule. FR say both, Hilly always say vestibule into wind. I might be wrong but it didn't look like you tensioned the poles with the tension strap at the fox feet, this needs doing for stability snd makes a massive difference in wind. I've got a second set of poles and never had to use them. Apologies if im teaching you to suck eggs here but its actually a great tent i just think s few tweaks with make a massive difference to your enjoyment of it.
No need to apologise, we all learn, I think when it comes to the condensation there is obviously multiple factors and you are correct opening the vents does help and I think that part of my issues come from the seams not being sealed, in fact I think that is what is causing most of my issue with it because the first camp which was dry it wasn’t terrible. I have cooked inside my other tents and I don’t tend to have a problem with condensation, yes there is some on the outer fly but I can accept that, but the inner tent has always remained dry. I also think that the material has a part to play in the condensation but it isn’t a massive deal breaker but on multi day hikes it may cause an issue. As for pitching I think the bent pole is what is causing the deformation mostly and as I said I’ll be buying another set of poles to use as my normal use and use the bent ones to double up in poor conditions. Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching 👌
Great honest review. the twisting and bending did look the worst i have seen in this tent. I have been quite fancying one. But this put me off. So cheers, saved me £600.
When you're looking at spending that kind of money, I must admit it's important to absolutely make sure you're not going to have buyers remorse and I would probably have a little bit of it if I'd have spent £600-700 on buying it. Thanks for watching!
I guess this is the problem with reviews though isn’t it? I’ve some niggles with mine but none that are mentioned here. I’ve used mine in all weathers, never had a drop of condensation 🤷 Paid £490 for mine, 4 season, 2kg ( 2.4 if you double pole) Cracking tents tbh, I think Hilleberg would be the only upgrade.
Aye but the only thing I can think is that after a while the seams may not be as tight from being out in adverse weather after a while, don’t get me wrong I like the tent but just so far it’s not been great so hopefully after a bit of seam sealing it won’t be as bad 😅
Hey up mate,good to see you back up wild camping up my go to wild camping spot. Does the helm 2 have condensation issues? Presume there is a happy medium between keeping warm and venting. It's always cloudy up there. Bloody good bargain though pal, I have a Vango tempest 200 that to be fair is a great tent and similar looking to that. I will troll the most reliable place and hunt for helm 1 or 2. Keep up the good work Leo.
I haven't had much problems in the way of condensation in the Helm 2, I would say from my experience is one of the best for not condensation. And it was a bit of a steal I must admit, I couldn't turn it down when I saw it, Thanks for watching
Re your venting, definitely open bith the front and back vents 99% of the time. It'll be drier in the tent which in turn makes you warmer. One last thing, these designs wirk best with the front facing the wind. Reason for this is if the rear is facing the wind the back of the tent blows onto the inner tent and your skeeping bag etc. If the front faces the wind it will still push in but it wont push against the inner tent front where your head is. Also the wind will shoot over the body/middle of the tent more as the front is higher. I know this goes against all the traditional rules but it's definitely the best way. Cheers. Im off to watch some of your other vids.
I agree opening the vents would decrease the condensation and it's probably me being a bit soft, and I'll be opening them next time, my gripe with the rear vent (wind direction side) is if its windy and raining it's going to drive that rain into the tent through the outer vent which in sunny old England is quite common, enjoy the videos!
Abisko lite Hi I just open my abisko lite 3 for the first time and some black guyline was in, it was like a knot around the tent then I need to take of them for pitch the tent, they are for what ? Additional guy line ? Thank !
So there are lines that run across the bottom of the tent to hold its shape, I wasn’t able to get pictures because they were buried in snow…. Hope this helps
£200 .... Baaaaargain. I got myself the similar Robens Sprinter 2 with a full mesh inner. I'm jealous of your solid inner but you're probably jealous of the full mesh inner 😂 To be fair if had the money i would of bought the Terra Nova Starlite 2 or your tent but the Robens 2024 model was on clearance sale as the 2025 has changed colour. Anyway, great tent and vid.
Yes definitely a bargain! and a mesh inner probably would be better but the solid inner is a winner when it come to cutting down on the breeze. I've also looked at the Robens it looks a decent size aswell, Thanks for watching!
@@thejuansamir1463 that’s an excellent price and you probably won’t have some of the issues I’ve had if it’s new, and to answer your question at the price point it’s probably one of the best
I think when your into camping up in the mountains and are happy to buy a premium tent you might as well go tried and tested and get a hilleberg. I know thats boring but when your paying top dollar you want a tent for life that will have no issues
Yes that’s what it comes down to really, it’s the safest answer to the question and you can’t really argue against it, Hilleberg are the best in this sort of field but I can’t say a budget/mid range tent wouldn’t compete in all but extreme conditions 🤷♂️ but this is the age old wild camping argument 🤣 thanks for watching 👌
I have this tent so a couple of things that might help.
Its not seam sealed, you might get away with it but probably best to do it.
Ventilation, you've got to open the vents, otherwise you'll be soaked and cold, this is no different to any 4 season tent. Ventilation is key.
Cooking with no door open, again will seriously add to the issue.
You can pitch rear and front into wind, front into wind allows deformation to take place in the vestibule. FR say both, Hilly always say vestibule into wind.
I might be wrong but it didn't look like you tensioned the poles with the tension strap at the fox feet, this needs doing for stability snd makes a massive difference in wind. I've got a second set of poles and never had to use them.
Apologies if im teaching you to suck eggs here but its actually a great tent i just think s few tweaks with make a massive difference to your enjoyment of it.
No need to apologise, we all learn, I think when it comes to the condensation there is obviously multiple factors and you are correct opening the vents does help and I think that part of my issues come from the seams not being sealed, in fact I think that is what is causing most of my issue with it because the first camp which was dry it wasn’t terrible. I have cooked inside my other tents and I don’t tend to have a problem with condensation, yes there is some on the outer fly but I can accept that, but the inner tent has always remained dry. I also think that the material has a part to play in the condensation but it isn’t a massive deal breaker but on multi day hikes it may cause an issue.
As for pitching I think the bent pole is what is causing the deformation mostly and as I said I’ll be buying another set of poles to use as my normal use and use the bent ones to double up in poor conditions.
Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching 👌
Great honest review. the twisting and bending did look the worst i have seen in this tent. I have been quite fancying one. But this put me off. So cheers, saved me £600.
When you're looking at spending that kind of money, I must admit it's important to absolutely make sure you're not going to have buyers remorse and I would probably have a little bit of it if I'd have spent £600-700 on buying it. Thanks for watching!
I guess this is the problem with reviews though isn’t it? I’ve some niggles with mine but none that are mentioned here. I’ve used mine in all weathers, never had a drop of condensation 🤷
Paid £490 for mine, 4 season, 2kg ( 2.4 if you double pole)
Cracking tents tbh, I think Hilleberg would be the only upgrade.
I’ve a feeling my problems stem from the seams, I will be seam sealing and hopefully it cuts down the moisture massively
@@LeoManAndMountain yeah it’s odd. You shouldn’t need to seam seal it though mate tbh.
Aye but the only thing I can think is that after a while the seams may not be as tight from being out in adverse weather after a while, don’t get me wrong I like the tent but just so far it’s not been great so hopefully after a bit of seam sealing it won’t be as bad 😅
Great review mate, very honest 🙏
Cheers 👌 and thanks for watching 👍
Hey up mate,good to see you back up wild camping up my go to wild camping spot. Does the helm 2 have condensation issues? Presume there is a happy medium between keeping warm and venting. It's always cloudy up there. Bloody good bargain though pal, I have a Vango tempest 200 that to be fair is a great tent and similar looking to that. I will troll the most reliable place and hunt for helm 1 or 2. Keep up the good work Leo.
I haven't had much problems in the way of condensation in the Helm 2, I would say from my experience is one of the best for not condensation. And it was a bit of a steal I must admit, I couldn't turn it down when I saw it, Thanks for watching
Re your venting, definitely open bith the front and back vents 99% of the time. It'll be drier in the tent which in turn makes you warmer.
One last thing, these designs wirk best with the front facing the wind. Reason for this is if the rear is facing the wind the back of the tent blows onto the inner tent and your skeeping bag etc. If the front faces the wind it will still push in but it wont push against the inner tent front where your head is. Also the wind will shoot over the body/middle of the tent more as the front is higher. I know this goes against all the traditional rules but it's definitely the best way. Cheers. Im off to watch some of your other vids.
I agree opening the vents would decrease the condensation and it's probably me being a bit soft, and I'll be opening them next time, my gripe with the rear vent (wind direction side) is if its windy and raining it's going to drive that rain into the tent through the outer vent which in sunny old England is quite common, enjoy the videos!
Abisko lite
Hi I just open my abisko lite 3 for the first time and some black guyline was in, it was like a knot around the tent then I need to take of them for pitch the tent, they are for what ? Additional guy line ?
Thank !
There isn’t an extra guy line but it could be the line that goes underneath the tent
@LeoManAndMountain it's difficult to put back this guy line ? I try to find a picture but is hard thank
@@entrelepingetlepong3746 I’ll have a look tomorrow when I put it up and see where it goes
@@LeoManAndMountain thx take some picture if u have time, maybe like that I will send u my email just for get a idea
So there are lines that run across the bottom of the tent to hold its shape, I wasn’t able to get pictures because they were buried in snow…. Hope this helps
£200 .... Baaaaargain. I got myself the similar Robens Sprinter 2 with a full mesh inner. I'm jealous of your solid inner but you're probably jealous of the full mesh inner 😂 To be fair if had the money i would of bought the Terra Nova Starlite 2 or your tent but the Robens 2024 model was on clearance sale as the 2025 has changed colour.
Anyway, great tent and vid.
Yes definitely a bargain! and a mesh inner probably would be better but the solid inner is a winner when it come to cutting down on the breeze. I've also looked at the Robens it looks a decent size aswell, Thanks for watching!
I’ve been offered this tent for £350. Brand New. Is there a tent that outperforms this one for that Price? Cheers
@@thejuansamir1463 that’s an excellent price and you probably won’t have some of the issues I’ve had if it’s new, and to answer your question at the price point it’s probably one of the best
I think when your into camping up in the mountains and are happy to buy a premium tent you might as well go tried and tested and get a hilleberg. I know thats boring but when your paying top dollar you want a tent for life that will have no issues
Yes that’s what it comes down to really, it’s the safest answer to the question and you can’t really argue against it, Hilleberg are the best in this sort of field but I can’t say a budget/mid range tent wouldn’t compete in all but extreme conditions 🤷♂️ but this is the age old wild camping argument 🤣 thanks for watching 👌