I'm just so down with this guy. Kevin is gonna have him to play on Sunday, and I would rather see him be awful again so we can put this behind us and rebuild our reputation than watch him play mediocre football vs bad teams for a few weeks and get suspended only to come back and still be awful. This entire qb move has been a nightmare from day 1, and I am tired of pretending its not.
As a Cowboys fan, I agree with your analysis of the game. Browns would've done much better if Deshaun had hit even a few of the many misses he had Sunday. Problem is, I am not sure he can actually do it anymore... Your Defense is not the problem, I can tell you that.
Joey, new to your channel and enjoying it from Toronto, Canada as a long time Browns fan. FWIW, I'd just like to say the audio tech you've chosen is outstanding and just flat out makes for a better listen. Enjoying your vibe. Keep it up and all the best.
The Cleveland Fanbase should file a Class action Lawsuit against Desaun Watson for wasting this roster. Denzel Ward, Nick Chubb, Amari Cooper, Myles Garrett, Kevin Stefanski This group should be likable and successful. Watson poisons both of those qualities.
Former browns fan from childhood now rehabilitated. Gotta say, I got a lotta schadenfreude seeing them turn into a dumpster fire while Baker taking the Buccs to new heights. Whether you thought Baker was over hyped or not, we had an identity and a culture and stability. Something we never had since reentering the league. And we threw it away for the shiny new QB that was sitting on his butt for nearly 2 years and is a predator, which is extra hypocritical given we dunked on the Steelers for having Ben for how many years? No love lost for the fans who turned face like nothing was wrong. No love lost for the incompetent management and ownership. Now I watch real teams on Sundays.
Yeah, hes done. This whole teams plan is to move foward and win. Cooper even rolled his eyes in the huddle at watson, i noticed. I think the team is done with him too. They had no fight, excitement on the sidelines during the game either. Look at how the whole team last year was jacked up when Flacco was with us. Theres No chemistry between any of them. Theyre acting like theyre at a wake this year. It was a mistake, this is business. Time to move foward, Watsons attitude and play are going backwards. You can see it. Theyd be lying to themselves thinking he is the guy. Too much bsggage. Watson has his GUARANTEED money, he dont give a shit.
@@theunhappyhoursportsshowThanks😉👍. It just really seems like it. Jameis Winston has that attitude, personality, etc. We have the weapons for Winston to be good. I bet he would do good too .
I was sooooo mad when they cut Baker and traded all that capital for a dude with his baggage. Could have had a healthy Baker at 30 million and even drafted a qb or just beefed up the team. Would have made the playoffs two years ago for sure, and last year would have been significantly better. Just look what Flacco was able to do.
We're screwed, and we did it to ourselves. We were building a winning culture, winning locker room, and we threw a pr nightmare into it and had the audacity to call him a "leader". andrew berry and Kevin might pay for this at the end of the day with their jobs and itll be a shame that they tried to hit a homerun when all we needed was a single
Everyone is sick of Watson. We all thought that the past was the past and here we are week 1 and he’s playing like this AND MORE allegations! This has to stop us cleveland fans don’t deserve this.
For me I don’t get is why weren’t these women filing lawsuits when he was in Houston???? We could’ve easily avoided this problem and stuck with Baker or drafted a Rookie Qb smh.
I want to see Jameis Winston get some playing time. How close can he be to what Joe Flacco was for us? Or, to put it another way, how big a mistake did the Browns make, letting Flacco go?
Excellent job outlining all the things Watson faces on a daily basis and being a Quarterback is probably not number 1 on his list. They need to pass the torch to Jameis for the sake of the team. What about the other 52 players, especially Myles, Bitonio, Njoku, JOK, etc, that are in their prime. If Watson can't rise up to lead them, he is hurting and damaging the team.
I get defending Watson’s legal right to due process, but to seriously have any doubts that he did something like this at this point is delusional. And, more than that, it’s disrespectful to his victims. Not saying that Joey is saying this but I already see it here in the comments. The day the news came out that we were signing Watson a couple years ago, I was pissed. Having a r**ist as your QB makes it so hard to root for the team. It also makes it hard to defend my love for the team to people who have been personally affected by SA.
Oh Watson is guilty of something the Houston PD was actually surprised the DA didn’t go after Watson. But it’s hard to get 3 first round draft picks if your player is in jail
My opinions on his legal battles. Are that more than likely at best the guy is just not a good guy. He has been horrifically terrible since the day he got to Cleveland. The reasons to guarantee his contract of such a large amount still it baffles me to this day. Once again, it is a desperate swing. for greatness from the browns.
It's always been a fool's dream that the Browns were a championship team, missing only the "right" quarterback. And every year without a first-round draft choice, they backslide a bit.
I'm fine with Jameis playing. He's a borderline starter in this league. But I don't believe Kevin's nuts are big enough to make the move. And he's not getting suspended so you can forget that right now.
Time to drop the dead weight. Look at the Steelers. Play solid defense, don’t turn the ball over, TAKE THE POINTS KEVIN! Then, you’re always in the game 🤷🏼♀️
Im so disappointed and exhausted with our team. The window is closing for this team within the next couple of years. All we need is an AVERAGE quarterback to make a decent run in the playoffs. Watson lacks the ability to read a defense quickly the ability to inspire, leadership skills and a soul. The entire team played more inspired football when he was out for the year. Hopefully, these new allegations provide the browns the legal loophole to void his contract.
honestly I'm just so over it bro! Decades of nothing but terrible teams and drama. I've seen so many people on twitter now saying there young kids don't wanna be browns fans anymore... At this point allegations true or not I hope he gets suspended so we can get out of this contract #Tank4Ewers
You're interpreting this all wrong. Doomsday would be Watson playing so poorly that he's nothing more than a backup QB who's eating up $72M in cap space and is uncuttable and un-tradable for the next 2.5 years. THAT is what will cripple the Browns Him being suspended and having his contact voided gives them a mulligan on what is by far the worst contract in NFL history.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt the first year. I just wanted to see a steady improvement and he hasn't improved one bit! He beat a couple bum teams and had a great second half against Baltimore. THATS IT!
If we are anything less than 3-2 by the end of week 5, or win despite watson looking like hot garbage, cut him and rip that bandaid off. The team and locker room might be able to recover by the end of the year. to hell with the salary cap. If the players aren't willing to fight for each other we have 1000s of more issues rather than money
Also you’re wrong about the lawsuit, this was brought up over 10 months ago, Watsons lawyer told that woman to kick rocks they aren’t being extorted any more
Again this is not about innocence or guilt - it is about the team and the never ending distraction it causes for everyone else - you really shouldn’t be shilling for someone you do not know who you have no clue about concerning the things he did or didnt do
Same page. Baker was always the right play for us to keep him. I’m happy for his success. We beat Pittsburgh in the playoffs and we’re one fumble in the end zone away from beating the freaking Chiefs in the playoffs smh. Let’s go Tampa
The season is already over. Game 3 confirmed it. Time to unload what talent they have and horde draft picks. Try to draft Arch Manning when he decides to leave Texas.
I did stop supporting the team. I have put the Browns gear in the closet the past two years. Watson needs to fade away into NFL obscurity. I cannot support a team that has this man as the leader. And Kevin Stefanski can shove his 4th down shenanigans. Go for it on 4rth down, get a penalty, send your offense out to fake going for it on 4th and 6, then call a timer out t ultimately kick a field goal. That was our first drive, and we called timeout over a field goal??? I am done, wake me up when it's over.
I wish that at some point in November (before Drake Maye makes his debut) Jonathan Kraft call Andrew Berry and tells him "give us Joe Bitonio for a 2025 4th Rd pick"
Browns are not good. Already 0-2 at home this year. The blame is plentiful: Stefanski's play calling, poor QB play by Watson, no run game, and just god awful OL. Let's not forget about Andrew Berry not addressing the OL when he could. We knew the OL would not be good with Bill Callahan leaving, but who knew they would be one of the worst OL's in the NFL?!?!
Id like to see him throw 20 yards and see whats on the ball. Something is wrong, bet theres more damage to the shoulder. He wont last long anyways that offense line looks bad too. He definitely took a beating against the cowboys. Jacksonville will come after him big time in that swamp at 1 pm, field temperature 100 degrees. Thats when you find out whos in shape and whos a joke. Browns Defense will be on that field all day, 3 and out every 2 minutes, come on Myles and boys lets get it. Good luck Browns love ya in Akron
I dont think its a coincidence that Jameis is really similar to Flacco. Big armed. Prone to take risks and put the ball into harm’s way. High risk high reward players that are true pocket passers.
I've never seen a Qbr of single digits and this is like his third one since he's been here! He's making the same mistakes since day one in Cleveland! Terrible footwork Bails on a clean pocket Missing wide open wr Doesn't go thro progressions Turnovers. The line wasn't as bad as they make it seem. They were ranked 8th by pff as far as time to throw. He's terrible! I never wanted him and now with the new allegations he shouldn't be allowed to be in the field!
His zip is gone, watch his Houston highlights his balls would fly downfield with a lot of zip...polar opposite now...He also has lost a lot of athleticism, noticed it last year....hes falling apart.
He is not who he used to be and has lost the room. No effort made to be with the team just took his big check. I support workers and yes athletes are workers but Watson should not be on our team and is consistently holding us back. If the team knew what his deal was like that one commenter said it might be it for my support but we will see.
Wow. When the Optimistic Fan Club say it’s bad, you know it’s bad. I’ve been a die hard fan since 1986. When they ran Baker out of town that was the last straw for me. I really shoulda threw in the towel when they cut Kosar or moved the team or when the Ravens won two SB’s or when they went 1-31 in 2016-2017. But I didn’t. Anyways, I used to live and die for this team. Now, I watch them more from an objective “how bad can they get” point of view. Last year was surprising but not enjoyable. They got lucky facing an injured Burrow in the rain. They got lucky with a missed FG from the Niner’s kicker. It took some terrible calls to beat the Colts. They faced HOU without Stroud. Faced Arizona without Murray. The Jets without Rodgers. Almost lost to the Bears on a Hail Mary pass AGAIN. I’m not optimistic or negative, I’m just a realist. The only impressive win last season was vs Baltimore. This team will flounder this season and it’s their own damn fault. They were on the cusp of being a perennial contender before Baker blew up his shoulder in 2021. Now, they’ve got an injured has been under center with obvious character flaws.
Chubb..modern day Jim Brown...Jerome Ford...just a guy....Deshaun Watson..3rd team qb masquerading as first team...middle of the pack at best receiving corp.....oh my
I think Watson is cooked, at least for the foreseeable future, but people should take into consideration that the Browns were playing the Cowboys (who are at least fairly decent). People need to stop this nonsense that the Cowboys are regular season chumps. The regular season has never been their issue. The Browns play four straight mid-to-crap teams over the next month; it'll be a good test as to where they're at.
Love your fairness here. Would I defend him if he played for another team? No. Would I defend his right to due process in any and all cases? Absolutely. All Americans enjoy a constitutional right to due process and a fair trial. That being said, if he did it then throw the book at him but until we know for sure this doesn't look good for anyone involved and if all of this ends up being an unfounded cash grab I would not want to be the party making allegations.
@@DoobSac "If it [the Browns cutting Watson] were to happen before the start of the 2025 season, the Browns would avoid $92 million in currently guaranteed salary obligations," Florio wrote. "That said, it would still come with a cost. Not in actual dollars but in cap dollars. Watson’s contract eventually would trigger a total cap charge of $80.77 million. If he was released after June 1, 2025 (or designated as a post-June 1 release), the cap charge would be $26.935 million for 2025 and another $53.835 million for 2026." Hope he’s wrong, but I’ve read another articles saying the same thing.
@@kennedyclash77 What does a post June 1 2025 release have to do with him being suspended and his contract being voided in the near future? If he's suspended for this case then they can void his contract meaning it would be erased from the books.
This reminds me of media and haters attacking bellichik when here. How did that work out? Or baker? Jeez. Fans who are guided by media lynch mob deserve mediocracy, I believe. Just wait until they start attacking next browns qb. Smh.
Blaming Watson for the Defense and Special Teams for letting the Cowboys score 37 is wild 🤦🏾♂️ He Pop's died and he still went out and gave it and scored 17.... As for the legal battles let it play out and make your judgement after that. The sh*tty part about being a Die Hard Browns Fan is the Cry Hard Fans. They cried about every QB we've had and would even claim they want the QB they sh*tted on back to make another QB look bad 🤦🏾♂️
You clearly did not watch the video because there was no blame towards him regarding defense or special teams - also, its not about innocent or guilty, its about the distractions and the question of availability if he does get suspended
This show jumped the shark, I believe. Too bad. I thought it was one of the best. Plenty of pro athletes accused of far worse supported. Too many agendas by fake fans.
What about it? This isnt about his innocence or guilt, its about the distraction towards the team - he also isn’t blameless and never was, there’s a reason the league suspended him - if being a fake fan is having a constructive thought process then farewell my friend
@@optimisticfanclub Who caused the distraction? Were any of the following players released despite greater diatractions: kobe bryant, ty hill, joeben rothlesberger, mixon, ray lewis, adrian peterson, etc? Only 21 of 117 players arrested for violence against women found guilty. Watkins hasn't even been arrested. If he is convicted of this, yeah, let him go, obviously. But unless and until then, let it play out.
I'm just so down with this guy. Kevin is gonna have him to play on Sunday, and I would rather see him be awful again so we can put this behind us and rebuild our reputation than watch him play mediocre football vs bad teams for a few weeks and get suspended only to come back and still be awful. This entire qb move has been a nightmare from day 1, and I am tired of pretending its not.
If he gets suspended he will be done, there will be no "coming back"
I'm with you on that statement.
As a Cowboys fan, I agree with your analysis of the game.
Browns would've done much better if Deshaun had hit even a few of the many misses he had Sunday.
Problem is, I am not sure he can actually do it anymore...
Your Defense is not the problem, I can tell you that.
Joey, new to your channel and enjoying it from Toronto, Canada as a long time Browns fan. FWIW, I'd just like to say the audio tech you've chosen is outstanding and just flat out makes for a better listen. Enjoying your vibe. Keep it up and all the best.
The Cleveland Fanbase should file a Class action Lawsuit against Desaun Watson for wasting this roster.
Denzel Ward, Nick Chubb, Amari Cooper, Myles Garrett, Kevin Stefanski
This group should be likable and successful. Watson poisons both of those qualities.
Great summary dude. Watson is done.
Thanks for the way you break it down Joey!
Former browns fan from childhood now rehabilitated. Gotta say, I got a lotta schadenfreude seeing them turn into a dumpster fire while Baker taking the Buccs to new heights. Whether you thought Baker was over hyped or not, we had an identity and a culture and stability. Something we never had since reentering the league. And we threw it away for the shiny new QB that was sitting on his butt for nearly 2 years and is a predator, which is extra hypocritical given we dunked on the Steelers for having Ben for how many years? No love lost for the fans who turned face like nothing was wrong. No love lost for the incompetent management and ownership. Now I watch real teams on Sundays.
Yeah, hes done. This whole teams plan is to move foward and win. Cooper even rolled his eyes in the huddle at watson, i noticed. I think the team is done with him too. They had no fight, excitement on the sidelines during the game either. Look at how the whole team last year was jacked up when Flacco was with us. Theres No chemistry between any of them. Theyre acting like theyre at a wake this year. It was a mistake, this is business. Time to move foward, Watsons attitude and play are going backwards. You can see it. Theyd be lying to themselves thinking he is the guy. Too much bsggage. Watson has his GUARANTEED money, he dont give a shit.
So well said. We miss Baker too. Berry and Stefanski need to go.
@@theunhappyhoursportsshowThanks😉👍.
It just really seems like it. Jameis Winston has that attitude, personality, etc. We have the weapons for Winston to be good. I bet he would do good too .
I was sooooo mad when they cut Baker and traded all that capital for a dude with his baggage. Could have had a healthy Baker at 30 million and even drafted a qb or just beefed up the team. Would have made the playoffs two years ago for sure, and last year would have been significantly better. Just look what Flacco was able to do.
We won 11 games with Joe Flacco coming off the couch. Get rid of Watson
I cannot wait to wake up and check my phone one day to find out deshaun is off the team
You'll see it on a t.v not on your phone remember I told you this I'm from the future and I know yours 🎉
@@TimmyTims-ke1rwI don't care how I hear it, I just want it to hurry up, future guy.
Kevin Stefanski made Baker a game manager now, Waston, but I can say this Baker done more with little
Good take on everything my guy
Everything on offense is broke. Dorsey sucks, OL hurt, Chubb hurt and a QB who can’t throw the ball 10 yards
We're screwed, and we did it to ourselves. We were building a winning culture, winning locker room, and we threw a pr nightmare into it and had the audacity to call him a "leader". andrew berry and Kevin might pay for this at the end of the day with their jobs and itll be a shame that they tried to hit a homerun when all we needed was a single
OMG the opening is awesome! Now gotta watch the rest but I love seeing your game being upped. It shows.
You won my subscription with this video. Your presentation and detail of this game is next level.
appreciate you watching!
Everyone is sick of Watson. We all thought that the past was the past and here we are week 1 and he’s playing like this AND MORE allegations! This has to stop us cleveland fans don’t deserve this.
The legal issues are a blessing... it's the Browns way out of the worst contract ever
Yall definitely getting your Karma for treating Baker the way yall did- nobody is feeling sorry for the Browns you got what you deserve
@@bigmazem3yeah because all browns fans wanted him gone gtfoh😂
@@bigmazem3Are you a Cleveland fan?
@@ZigRhino no
Baker Mayfield is laughing his ass off!
Jimmy beat the feds. He can beat this contract.
Comment of the day
The Browns gambled by bringing him in and lost. Now, it will cost the Browns a GM and another failed QB added to a very, very long list. What a joke.
If Haslam did this because he wants to get out of that contract.. that’s crazy
great video Joey. collab with Quincy??
maybe one day!
Siri play doomsday by mf doom
Good taste in music detected.
Okay… this guy might know what’s Gucci…
90% done. Let's be real, he still has about 10% chance to turn it around. But yeah...these new charges might be the dagger.
Cleveland Definitely deserves Deshaun for treating Baker they way they did- this is your Karma ask Baker whos laughing now!
7:26 why did the person file a Civil suit and not criminal.....if someone did something bad to me..... give them prison ...not give me money 😂
you asked at 3:10 was it really that bad. I answered then--YES it was that bad!! I went back and watched every attempted throw. It was beyond bad!
I agree with you...this is not the same guy.
For me I don’t get is why weren’t these women filing lawsuits when he was in Houston???? We could’ve easily avoided this problem and stuck with Baker or drafted a Rookie Qb smh.
we just gotta get rid of bro
Excellent review
I want to see Jameis Winston get some playing time. How close can he be to what Joe Flacco was for us? Or, to put it another way, how big a mistake did the Browns make, letting Flacco go?
Excellent job outlining all the things Watson faces on a daily basis and being a Quarterback is probably not number 1 on his list. They need to pass the torch to Jameis for the sake of the team. What about the other 52 players, especially Myles, Bitonio, Njoku, JOK, etc, that are in their prime. If Watson can't rise up to lead them, he is hurting and damaging the team.
I get defending Watson’s legal right to due process, but to seriously have any doubts that he did something like this at this point is delusional. And, more than that, it’s disrespectful to his victims. Not saying that Joey is saying this but I already see it here in the comments.
The day the news came out that we were signing Watson a couple years ago, I was pissed. Having a r**ist as your QB makes it so hard to root for the team. It also makes it hard to defend my love for the team to people who have been personally affected by SA.
So why was Big Ben so loved when he was a r*pist?
QB rating 9
Aww man, that jacket is kinda fire!
Twenty three women were fine, but there's a 24th? Oh, no... Cut him. And it has nothing to do with him being a lousy quarterback.
Oh Watson is guilty of something the Houston PD was actually surprised the DA didn’t go after Watson. But it’s hard to get 3 first round draft picks if your player is in jail
My opinions on his legal battles.
Are that more than likely at best the guy is just not a good guy. He has been horrifically terrible since the day he got to Cleveland. The reasons to guarantee his contract of such a large amount still it baffles me to this day. Once again, it is a desperate swing.
for greatness from the browns.
This new accuser might save the whole organization, if they can void Deshaun’s contract
If this incident was KNOWN by the Browns that would be it for me. After 50 years, I'd walk. Go Bucs. If it WASNT known than SUE him for every penny.
It's always been a fool's dream that the Browns were a championship team, missing only the "right" quarterback.
And every year without a first-round draft choice, they backslide a bit.
only saving grace is Berry hitting on those 2nd and 3rd rounders.
Oh it's 10 minutes pass midnight with Watson.
I'm fine with Jameis playing. He's a borderline starter in this league.
But I don't believe Kevin's nuts are big enough to make the move.
And he's not getting suspended so you can forget that right now.
Perfectly read 🎯🎯🎯💯
Time to drop the dead weight. Look at the Steelers. Play solid defense, don’t turn the ball over, TAKE THE POINTS KEVIN! Then, you’re always in the game 🤷🏼♀️
It's irresponsible for stefanski to put him on the field! He can't lead this team with everything going on! Winston should be starting!
Im so disappointed and exhausted with our team. The window is closing for this team within the next couple of years. All we need is an AVERAGE quarterback to make a decent run in the playoffs.
Watson lacks the ability to read a defense quickly the ability to inspire, leadership skills and a soul.
The entire team played more inspired football when he was out for the year.
Hopefully, these new allegations provide the browns the legal loophole to void his contract.
honestly I'm just so over it bro! Decades of nothing but terrible teams and drama. I've seen so many people on twitter now saying there young kids don't wanna be browns fans anymore... At this point allegations true or not I hope he gets suspended so we can get out of this contract #Tank4Ewers
You're interpreting this all wrong. Doomsday would be Watson playing so poorly that he's nothing more than a backup QB who's eating up $72M in cap space and is uncuttable and un-tradable for the next 2.5 years. THAT is what will cripple the Browns
Him being suspended and having his contact voided gives them a mulligan on what is by far the worst contract in NFL history.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt the first year. I just wanted to see a steady improvement and he hasn't improved one bit! He beat a couple bum teams and had a great second half against Baltimore. THATS IT!
If deshaun played for any other team I wouldn’t want anything to do with him.
Great video as usual, go browns from the uk
If he is suspended again, he needs to be cut.
Time to start Winston. Watson played his last game in the NFL last Sunday.
In my opinion it is doomsday.
Get his ass out of the orange beautiful helmet..Watson must go immediately the damage has been done flat out.
If we are anything less than 3-2 by the end of week 5, or win despite watson looking like hot garbage, cut him and rip that bandaid off. The team and locker room might be able to recover by the end of the year. to hell with the salary cap. If the players aren't willing to fight for each other we have 1000s of more issues rather than money
Please push that button!
Also you’re wrong about the lawsuit, this was brought up over 10 months ago, Watsons lawyer told that woman to kick rocks they aren’t being extorted any more
Again this is not about innocence or guilt - it is about the team and the never ending distraction it causes for everyone else - you really shouldn’t be shilling for someone you do not know who you have no clue about concerning the things he did or didnt do
I left years ago. I got lit up. Still wearing my baker Tampa jersey. Enjoy. To whom it may concern..
I told you. 😂
Same page. Baker was always the right play for us to keep him. I’m happy for his success. We beat Pittsburgh in the playoffs and we’re one fumble in the end zone away from beating the freaking Chiefs in the playoffs smh. Let’s go Tampa
The season is already over. Game 3 confirmed it. Time to unload what talent they have and horde draft picks. Try to draft Arch Manning when he decides to leave Texas.
I did stop supporting the team. I have put the Browns gear in the closet the past two years. Watson needs to fade away into NFL obscurity. I cannot support a team that has this man as the leader. And Kevin Stefanski can shove his 4th down shenanigans. Go for it on 4rth down, get a penalty, send your offense out to fake going for it on 4th and 6, then call a timer out t ultimately kick a field goal. That was our first drive, and we called timeout over a field goal??? I am done, wake me up when it's over.
I wish that at some point in November (before Drake Maye makes his debut) Jonathan Kraft call Andrew Berry and tells him "give us Joe Bitonio for a 2025 4th Rd pick"
Cut him! Never liked the contract we gave him his playing style doesn’t age well and his legal issues are troubling
Browns are not good. Already 0-2 at home this year. The blame is plentiful: Stefanski's play calling, poor QB play by Watson, no run game, and just god awful OL. Let's not forget about Andrew Berry not addressing the OL when he could. We knew the OL would not be good with Bill Callahan leaving, but who knew they would be one of the worst OL's in the NFL?!?!
Time to move on from Watson
Stefanski ain't gonna do shite .
They should set Watson down and demote him to emergency QB until this sorts itself out...have some dignity and do what Houston did.
Watson is the man !!!
Cleveland needs to extend his contract by three years. He is such a stand up guy.
Id like to see him throw 20 yards and see whats on the ball. Something is wrong, bet theres more damage to the shoulder. He wont last long anyways that offense line looks bad too. He definitely took a beating against the cowboys. Jacksonville will come after him big time in that swamp at 1 pm, field temperature 100 degrees. Thats when you find out whos in shape and whos a joke. Browns Defense will be on that field all day, 3 and out every 2 minutes, come on Myles and boys lets get it. Good luck Browns love ya in Akron
I gotta say
That was tough to watch. Ugly.
The Browns could still make the playoffs without DW.
Absolutely! We did last year. He’s slowing us down honestly.
I dont think its a coincidence that Jameis is really similar to Flacco. Big armed. Prone to take risks and put the ball into harm’s way. High risk high reward players that are true pocket passers.
I've never seen a Qbr of single digits and this is like his third one since he's been here! He's making the same mistakes since day one in Cleveland!
Terrible footwork
Bails on a clean pocket
Missing wide open wr
Doesn't go thro progressions
Turnovers.
The line wasn't as bad as they make it seem. They were ranked 8th by pff as far as time to throw. He's terrible! I never wanted him and now with the new allegations he shouldn't be allowed to be in the field!
His zip is gone, watch his Houston highlights his balls would fly downfield with a lot of zip...polar opposite now...He also has lost a lot of athleticism, noticed it last year....hes falling apart.
He is not who he used to be and has lost the room. No effort made to be with the team just took his big check. I support workers and yes athletes are workers but Watson should not be on our team and is consistently holding us back. If the team knew what his deal was like that one commenter said it might be it for my support but we will see.
I'm 80% cut bait on him!!!
Wow. When the Optimistic Fan Club say it’s bad, you know it’s bad. I’ve been a die hard fan since 1986. When they ran Baker out of town that was the last straw for me. I really shoulda threw in the towel when they cut Kosar or moved the team or when the Ravens won two SB’s or when they went 1-31 in 2016-2017. But I didn’t. Anyways, I used to live and die for this team. Now, I watch them more from an objective “how bad can they get” point of view. Last year was surprising but not enjoyable. They got lucky facing an injured Burrow in the rain. They got lucky with a missed FG from the Niner’s kicker. It took some terrible calls to beat the Colts. They faced HOU without Stroud. Faced Arizona without Murray. The Jets without Rodgers. Almost lost to the Bears on a Hail Mary pass AGAIN. I’m not optimistic or negative, I’m just a realist. The only impressive win last season was vs Baltimore. This team will flounder this season and it’s their own damn fault. They were on the cusp of being a perennial contender before Baker blew up his shoulder in 2021. Now, they’ve got an injured has been under center with obvious character flaws.
I wish I could give this a thousand likes. Absolutely same, my friend - except I’ve been die hard since the Kardiac Kids days.
any one want to talk domed stadium?
Chubb..modern day Jim Brown...Jerome Ford...just a guy....Deshaun Watson..3rd team qb masquerading as first team...middle of the pack at best receiving corp.....oh my
Watsons qb coach needs to be fired. that dude stinks.
This is your quarterback 😂🤣😂🤣😂 you wanted him lol.
Damn you’re right, I wish I hadn’t signed that check
I think Watson is cooked, at least for the foreseeable future, but people should take into consideration that the Browns were playing the Cowboys (who are at least fairly decent). People need to stop this nonsense that the Cowboys are regular season chumps. The regular season has never been their issue. The Browns play four straight mid-to-crap teams over the next month; it'll be a good test as to where they're at.
Mr arts and crafts
Love your fairness here. Would I defend him if he played for another team? No. Would I defend his right to due process in any and all cases? Absolutely. All Americans enjoy a constitutional right to due process and a fair trial. That being said, if he did it then throw the book at him but until we know for sure this doesn't look good for anyone involved and if all of this ends up being an unfounded cash grab I would not want to be the party making allegations.
Idk what you mean. Deshaun has looked pretty elite to me.
I’m giving it 5 games if nothing improves cut ties and move on
You can’t cut ties when every dollar is guaranteed. Even if we’re lucky enough to be able to void the deal, it still counts as a cap hit.
@@kennedyclash77Wrong. If the contract is voided it comes off the cap as well.
@@DoobSac
"If it [the Browns cutting Watson] were to happen before the start of the 2025 season, the Browns would avoid $92 million in currently guaranteed salary obligations," Florio wrote. "That said, it would still come with a cost. Not in actual dollars but in cap dollars. Watson’s contract eventually would trigger a total cap charge of $80.77 million. If he was released after June 1, 2025 (or designated as a post-June 1 release), the cap charge would be $26.935 million for 2025 and another $53.835 million for 2026." Hope he’s wrong, but I’ve read another articles saying the same thing.
@@kennedyclash77 What does a post June 1 2025 release have to do with him being suspended and his contract being voided in the near future? If he's suspended for this case then they can void his contract meaning it would be erased from the books.
There is no scenario in which the Browns do not take a cap hit of some sort. There are several articles explaining this.
Let Watson dig his own grave! He is pretty good at it. And thanks Deshaun for tarnishing my last name!
You’re not overreacting…Watson is washed.
He's cooked
You can't cut him. You can't take 172 million dollar dead cap hit. Even as a June first cut it's too much.
So glad i didnt listen to yall.
watch the newest video
@@optimisticfanclub I did. Your analysis was very solid.
Hay chicken little the sky’s not falling. It’s one game.
That shit at 12
This reminds me of media and haters attacking bellichik when here. How did that work out? Or baker? Jeez. Fans who are guided by media lynch mob deserve mediocracy, I believe. Just wait until they start attacking next browns qb. Smh.
Blaming Watson for the Defense and Special Teams for letting the Cowboys score 37 is wild 🤦🏾♂️ He Pop's died and he still went out and gave it and scored 17.... As for the legal battles let it play out and make your judgement after that. The sh*tty part about being a Die Hard Browns Fan is the Cry Hard Fans. They cried about every QB we've had and would even claim they want the QB they sh*tted on back to make another QB look bad 🤦🏾♂️
You clearly did not watch the video because there was no blame towards him regarding defense or special teams - also, its not about innocent or guilty, its about the distractions and the question of availability if he does get suspended
Shiity QB...PR disaster
Get a job Joey
You’re watching my job
@@optimisticfanclub exactly
@alexalex1251 nice
@@optimisticfanclub no I am mean
Ya right
This show jumped the shark, I believe. Too bad. I thought it was one of the best. Plenty of pro athletes accused of far worse supported. Too many agendas by fake fans.
What about it? This isnt about his innocence or guilt, its about the distraction towards the team - he also isn’t blameless and never was, there’s a reason the league suspended him - if being a fake fan is having a constructive thought process then farewell my friend
@@optimisticfanclub Who caused the distraction? Were any of the following players released despite greater diatractions: kobe bryant, ty hill, joeben rothlesberger, mixon, ray lewis, adrian peterson, etc? Only 21 of 117 players arrested for violence against women found guilty. Watkins hasn't even been arrested. If he is convicted of this, yeah, let him go, obviously. But unless and until then, let it play out.