I just want everybody to remember that this is the first time this Ravens offensive and defensive starters have played together since the AFCCG, none of these guys except Faalele and Simpson played in the preseason. We'll see KC again in the playoffs.
KC had a rookie wr, a rookie LT, didn't play their rookie safety who's going to be a beast. Also, we were without our defensive end who'll be back in week 6, along with Hollywood Brown in a week or 2. Also we Chiefs fans hate the bias as much as everyone else when it comes to the refs. Makes us look like the bad guy for no reason.
@jasonivy9705 I agree with a lot of what you said but the ref thing is weird to hear from a chiefs fan. I've seen several ref calls for and against the Chiefs, in the AFC and in the super bowl. Jawaan Taylor is the most penalized player in the league, and people still cry about bias?!? It's BS
7:55 That's not what happened. Andy Reid called timeout first. The side ref didn't see it, but the ref at the back did and give it to him. Spagnuolo didn't see the ref at the back gave it to him and so tried to call a timeout with the side ref. But the timeout had already been granted by then. Jawaan Taylor was penalized more than any other tackle last season. Often unfairly. If you watch in slow motion, you'll see that 90% of the time, he is moving with the snap of the ball (while it is still in the center's hand, but moving). But it looks like a false start because he is moving before anyone else. Sometimes he moves a bit early and they miss it. But sometimes they call him when he didn't actually move early. He's far from the only tackle that does that. Lane Johnson of the Eagles does the same thing, and Sports Illustrated wrote an article about. I'd link, but I don't think that's possible in TH-cam comments. So how come we never hear about the refs favoring the Eagles? Or the refs favoring the Jaguars (when Taylor was with them doing the exact same thing and being penalized LESS)? People hate teams that win a lot, and people are more likely to notice bad calls that go against the team they are rooting for. Combine these two natural cognitive biases, and the false narrative emerges that the refs favor the Chiefs. Same thing happened with the Patriots.
It really felt like the ravens were having an identity crisis on offense. Getting to pistol, and at one point, under center, just looked wrong for their offense, and aside from a read option and maybe 1 other run, it felt like Henry in shotgun wasn’t gonna do them good.
The Ravens have a NEW defensive coordinator. Mike McDonald the previous DC also had a rough start. The offensive line coach was recently diagnosed with a terminal illness and died shortly after being diagnosed. That can’t be good mentally for the players on the line. The O-line is the biggest weakness. The team was over the cap and just announced some renegotiated contracts, freeing up money for hopefully line help. The only reason we were in this game was because of Lamar, but he did have the opportunity to win the game and didn’t pull it off.
With a bad oline, edc will draft more defensive players in October and put all the weight on Lamar. PM lost against Brady in Super Bowl because his oline had suffered injuries so, having a bad oline is bad even for the best qb like PM
I dont think the old ravens are gone i just think the gap between the Chiefs and the next best has gotten wider. Ravens will be fine....they cant win the superbowl or even get there but they may get a division championship.....lets go Chiefs!
@@katinashellington2903 which is precisely the thesis of my argument, mass departures at o line make Lamar’s further development and the team’s strength (running the ball) unrealistic
They looked like a team that was feeling things out. Henry makes 3rd and long a goddamn nightmare and im gonna need to see them struggle through 4 or 5 before I look at the panic button. Monken took 3 games too really grasp what his offense was last year too. The O-Line is a major concern, I waited all offseason for some kind of move to replace guys... 😅 but im hopikg to see them pick things up as we go.
I thought the Ravens looked fine, they will work on their identity during the season and Henry will play a bigger role. However I think you’re right about Lamar, he won’t win trying to run around like that and he might even get injured because he’s not sliding. Those hits pile up and sometimes it only takes one. Imo this should be the AFC championship this year again this season.
That's wishful thinking. Down Clowny and Queen and their gifted coordinator plus on defense, three offensive line starters is going to make a big difference. And their backs slack versatility. When Henry is in the backfield they run, and when Hill is back there they pass. If the Ravens fall behind, they have difficulty catching up. Finally, Lamar isn't clutch passing.
Chiefs RT J. Taylor moves his back foot a hair before the snap and that is legal as long as that foot does not touch the ground again before the snap. Lane Johnson with the Eagles does the same thing.
Henry a non factor! Lamar will never neat Mahomes! O line is trash! Tucker starting to look human the last couple yrs. Thank God lol! KC looked like a track team! Damn i hate them lol! Worthy is ridiculously fast! This could be Clevelands Year!
@@LaStOnE_leFt I’ll be honest if Lamar was your qb you’d go 16-1 easily, yall can say bad things about my team and I’ll listen, but when you go after Lamar yall make this bad takes, he the 2nd best qb in the league and everyone’s like he ain’t that guy and he is washed and he isn’t a game changer when you can only name 1 qb better
@@bigwoke686 He wrecked his car street racing on a highway in Texas and then fled the scene this off season. The court case against him is ongoing, and he will be suspended for a significant number of games if he is convicted of any crimes, but the league is waiting on the courts to do their job before they issue any punishments of their own. That's why he is not suspended yet, and probably won't be until next year, if at all.
Can we talk about the turd floating in the punch bowl ? Biscotti needed to fire Harbaugh in 2018 based on his past performance ! Now Lamar's rookie contract has totally been squandered. In the future It will cost too much to keep non QB players after their rookie contracts are up. Baltimore hasn't drafted or developed nearly enough offensive weapons, or linemen for lamars protection! And the head coach keeps having the same gametime gaffs as he was 15 years ago !
I think that Henry's relative ineffectiveness just comes from it being his first game with this team. As time goes on, the Ravens will figure out what works and what doesn't. I don't think he'll be as good as he was in Tennessee, but he won't be as bad as some people are saying.
Agreed, we need to keep in mind how good the Chiefs front 7 is, but also, the Ravens o line is not what it was, I’m sure they’ll also improve, but any team who can get penetration and make contact on Henry in the backfield will force him off the field on 2nd and 3rd and long
I'm not sure Henry was ineffective. He was getting stuffed, but I felt the offense was moving better when Henry was on the field then when he was off. Henry was causing the defense to over commit to stopping him, and it allowed Lamar to drive it down the field, and opened up other options. The biggest issue was the oline struggling in the run game.
I don't know if he's a good fit in the Ravens' offense. He doesn't like to run from the Shotgun, which is what the Ravens would usually prefer. It was way too easy to guess whether they were going to run or pass based on which runningback was in the game on Thursday.
No it’s week one, they don’t have a line there defense is fine. The oline might get better as the season progresses. They have to build into a cohesive unit which could take all season so don’t count your chickens before they hatch
This is a heavily over dramatic take of what happened in that game. Lamar balled out, the first likely endzone throw was not some egregious miss, thats a hard throw that needed to be over the defender but in reach of Likely, maybe a hand or 2 overthrown. The miss to Zay was bad but even that one Zay needed to stop. I think that pass showed a lack of chemistry more than anything, thats the kind of stuff that Kelce nails for Mahomes, he makes the play easier by knowing what to do and Mahomes knows hes gonna do it right. Most importantly he followed it up with a great pass that came a toe within a TD. the offense looked like they were definitely figuring things out and thats what happened last year with Monken too. I expect to see Lamar continue with his progression like he does every year and if that O-line can get into a rhythm he'll be just fine and back in the MVP convo. He was a toe away from a potential winning 2 pt conv., I mean the ravens are elite on those end game ballsy plays. All of that without mentioning they played the chiefs lmao lucky ass team, the penalties were egregious (and we better see that same formation penalty killing teams all weekend) and Mahomes of course is Mahomes. Great game and outside of the O-line, im liking what I saw as long as they do figure out how to get Henry more involved. The defense is still insane on paper and I think PQs replacement is about to be an upgrade, and ill never stress the offense.
Lamar said in the post game press conference that the throw was not intended for Zay, but Bateman. Rashad either cut the route short or Lamar thought he would improvise and continue running to the open area. Agree with everything else you said.
@davidmc8475 I didnt listen, and I should lol. If thats true, that only further shows chemistry issues. He and Likely are on the same page but he cant get his verticality down on the jump balls. That simple adjustment and we have our red zone target. This offense is gonna click I just hope its in a game or 2.
Why does zay need to stop. He was running wide open, going away from the defenders who covered bateman. Bro. I ilke lamar. Rooting for him next to allen, herbert and mahomes. But he needs to stop choking like lebron or harden. He always play great and hard untill the rubber meets the road. Than he does some stupid or incompetent stuff
@chiecheung25 I heard Lamar apparently said that pass wasn't supposed to be for Zay, so whatever. I'd have to listen to his post-game talk and rewatch the play to understand that, regardless, Lamar did what he had to win the game and it came down to the sheer odds that 0.0001% of Likelys body landed out of bounds. Lamar may have had a bad throw on that last drive, but he still followed it up with a winning throw. He didn't choke.
@@gDiniM bro he missed 2 open receivers. 1 of them was WIDE ASS open. I like lamar. Why are you defending him this hard. He DIDNT EVEN SEE A WIDE ASS OPEN REVEIEVER. And that 3rd pass he overthrew. It is because likely is such an athletic guy. Maybe megatron could have caught that pass better. Or OBJ, TO. Or wait Randy could have even mossed it
I was going for the japanese karate movie look - but I know, didnt set my shutter speed properly, it will be fixed! Appreciate the eye for production quality tho
when you are running for your life with less than 2 seconds to pass all game, no throws are easy. Mahomes was not under duress. When Ravens oline is fixed look out.
Maybe the ravens should trade qbs with the chargers. Herbert is smart strong arm, accurate, big bodied, tough and i as a Chiefs fan would love if he was out of the afc west....and the Chiefs could play lamar at least twice a year. You guys know herbert is a very good qb and so do we. He needs to be on a different team to succeed and the ravens need to get rid of lamar to succeed.
What is click bait about it? The thumbnail says the old ravens are gone, I listed all of the departures that they've had which were clearly reflected in the Ravens run game? I also acknowledged that they're still a very good team that will be in every game because Lamar is so good - so again I ask, where's the click bait?
Lamar's a bum, always has been. He straight up regressed to rookie form this game. Can't lead receivers, can't secure the ball, all he can do is check down and get bailed out by skill players who will jump ship to a real QB at first opportunity. I'm just glad he fleeced the Ravens for his contract which will keep them as the bottom tier trash they are for years to come. And I'm gonna laugh when all the top tier drafts they get as a result ask for trades after 2 seasons with them.
I said oh I said the Ravens wasn't that good and the quarterback he can't throw the ball all I can do is scramble and you contain him you could beat them that defense ain't as good as it used to be and I guarantee you the browns will beat them this year
I just want everybody to remember that this is the first time this Ravens offensive and defensive starters have played together since the AFCCG, none of these guys except Faalele and Simpson played in the preseason. We'll see KC again in the playoffs.
Lol😅
KC had a rookie wr, a rookie LT, didn't play their rookie safety who's going to be a beast. Also, we were without our defensive end who'll be back in week 6, along with Hollywood Brown in a week or 2. Also we Chiefs fans hate the bias as much as everyone else when it comes to the refs. Makes us look like the bad guy for no reason.
@jasonivy9705
I agree with a lot of what you said but the ref thing is weird to hear from a chiefs fan.
I've seen several ref calls for and against the Chiefs, in the AFC and in the super bowl.
Jawaan Taylor is the most penalized player in the league, and people still cry about bias?!?
It's BS
7:55 That's not what happened. Andy Reid called timeout first. The side ref didn't see it, but the ref at the back did and give it to him. Spagnuolo didn't see the ref at the back gave it to him and so tried to call a timeout with the side ref. But the timeout had already been granted by then. Jawaan Taylor was penalized more than any other tackle last season. Often unfairly. If you watch in slow motion, you'll see that 90% of the time, he is moving with the snap of the ball (while it is still in the center's hand, but moving). But it looks like a false start because he is moving before anyone else. Sometimes he moves a bit early and they miss it. But sometimes they call him when he didn't actually move early. He's far from the only tackle that does that. Lane Johnson of the Eagles does the same thing, and Sports Illustrated wrote an article about. I'd link, but I don't think that's possible in TH-cam comments. So how come we never hear about the refs favoring the Eagles? Or the refs favoring the Jaguars (when Taylor was with them doing the exact same thing and being penalized LESS)? People hate teams that win a lot, and people are more likely to notice bad calls that go against the team they are rooting for. Combine these two natural cognitive biases, and the false narrative emerges that the refs favor the Chiefs. Same thing happened with the Patriots.
2 things
1) lamar is NOT accurate
2) he is a freak athlete who plays qb. Not a qb who is a freak athlete.
Go watch a film breakdown buddy
@cubanmisslecrisis7087 that sounds pretty accurate 😂
It really felt like the ravens were having an identity crisis on offense. Getting to pistol, and at one point, under center, just looked wrong for their offense, and aside from a read option and maybe 1 other run, it felt like Henry in shotgun wasn’t gonna do them good.
i didn’t ever get the hype for derick henry going to the ravens, he’s a terrible fit
@@IndustryReposts we’ll see if it gets better, but I did not think it’d be a great fit either
Henry has always needed a runway to get up to speed. If our O line can't get any push, it won't help much in getting him ramped up.
The Ravens have a NEW defensive coordinator. Mike McDonald the previous DC also had a rough start.
The offensive line coach was recently diagnosed with a terminal illness and died shortly after being diagnosed. That can’t be good mentally for the players on the line.
The O-line is the biggest weakness. The team was over the cap and just announced some renegotiated contracts, freeing up money for hopefully line help.
The only reason we were in this game was because of Lamar, but he did have the opportunity to win the game and didn’t pull it off.
With a bad oline, edc will draft more defensive players in October and put all the weight on Lamar. PM lost against Brady in Super Bowl because his oline had suffered injuries so, having a bad oline is bad even for the best qb like PM
I dont think the old ravens are gone i just think the gap between the Chiefs and the next best has gotten wider. Ravens will be fine....they cant win the superbowl or even get there but they may get a division championship.....lets go Chiefs!
always love your content man! great video! can’t wait for DAL-CLE sunday and especially your thoughts on it!
appreciate it! Sunday night is going to be awesome, make sure you come watch live late night!
You need to have an O-Line to stay in the pocket Sir.
@@katinashellington2903 which is precisely the thesis of my argument, mass departures at o line make Lamar’s further development and the team’s strength (running the ball) unrealistic
Oline was a problem even before last season.@@optimisticfanclub
I am a Browns fan. The Ravens are fine. They were facing the Super Bowl champs at home and lost by a few inches.
OMG NFL fans are so weak. . .
their team loses one game by a toe length and they start crying and shaking saying the season's over. . .
They looked like a team that was feeling things out. Henry makes 3rd and long a goddamn nightmare and im gonna need to see them struggle through 4 or 5 before I look at the panic button. Monken took 3 games too really grasp what his offense was last year too. The O-Line is a major concern, I waited all offseason for some kind of move to replace guys... 😅 but im hopikg to see them pick things up as we go.
Who TF says that? On Ravens podcasts people are optimistic but know the O-Line needs help.
@@davidmc8475 literally look at the title for this video bud. . .
Lamar was only running like that because it was the chiefs. I don’t think he’ll do that every week.
Frankly, if Lamar hadn't run like that, the game wouldn't have been close.
I thought the Ravens looked fine, they will work on their identity during the season and Henry will play a bigger role. However I think you’re right about Lamar, he won’t win trying to run around like that and he might even get injured because he’s not sliding. Those hits pile up and sometimes it only takes one. Imo this should be the AFC championship this year again this season.
That's wishful thinking. Down Clowny and Queen and their gifted coordinator plus on defense, three offensive line starters is going to make a big difference. And their backs slack versatility. When Henry is in the backfield they run, and when Hill is back there they pass. If the Ravens fall behind, they have difficulty catching up. Finally, Lamar isn't clutch passing.
Ravens had 3 off side's, but no flag, And last year when we played the lions week 1 4 flags were called on Taylor for the same thing.
Bro. Mahomes was hit twice out of bounds. One of tgose he was shoved 2 yard OUT OF BOUNDS. Chiefs D line was hold all game long
My boy Joey always makes my day. Go Browns!!
Chiefs RT J. Taylor moves his back foot a hair before the snap and that is legal as long as that foot does not touch the ground again before the snap. Lane Johnson with the Eagles does the same thing.
Henry a non factor! Lamar will never neat Mahomes! O line is trash! Tucker starting to look human the last couple yrs. Thank God lol! KC looked like a track team! Damn i hate them lol! Worthy is ridiculously fast! This could be Clevelands Year!
It's one game bro.
And Lamar and mahomes aren't the same type of player. Not even close.
What about Cleveland
@@zandger1649 Watson is the biggest bust in NFL history! I hate that man!
@@LaStOnE_leFt I’ll be honest if Lamar was your qb you’d go 16-1 easily, yall can say bad things about my team and I’ll listen, but when you go after Lamar yall make this bad takes, he the 2nd best qb in the league and everyone’s like he ain’t that guy and he is washed and he isn’t a game changer when you can only name 1 qb better
they arent a big game team simple
That browns Dallas game is gonna be so hyped!
Honestly how is rashee not suspended rn? I don't really care either way, i just don't understand how that's even possible......
what did he do?
@@bigwoke686 He wrecked his car street racing on a highway in Texas and then fled the scene this off season. The court case against him is ongoing, and he will be suspended for a significant number of games if he is convicted of any crimes, but the league is waiting on the courts to do their job before they issue any punishments of their own. That's why he is not suspended yet, and probably won't be until next year, if at all.
The case has not come to trial yet. The NFL does not suspend players until after the court case.
Can we talk about the turd floating in the punch bowl ?
Biscotti needed to fire Harbaugh in 2018 based on his past performance !
Now Lamar's rookie contract has totally been squandered. In the future It will cost too much to keep non QB players after their rookie contracts are up. Baltimore hasn't drafted or developed nearly enough offensive weapons, or linemen for lamars protection!
And the head coach keeps having the same gametime gaffs as he was 15 years ago !
I think that Henry's relative ineffectiveness just comes from it being his first game with this team. As time goes on, the Ravens will figure out what works and what doesn't. I don't think he'll be as good as he was in Tennessee, but he won't be as bad as some people are saying.
Agreed, we need to keep in mind how good the Chiefs front 7 is, but also, the Ravens o line is not what it was, I’m sure they’ll also improve, but any team who can get penetration and make contact on Henry in the backfield will force him off the field on 2nd and 3rd and long
I'm not sure Henry was ineffective. He was getting stuffed, but I felt the offense was moving better when Henry was on the field then when he was off. Henry was causing the defense to over commit to stopping him, and it allowed Lamar to drive it down the field, and opened up other options. The biggest issue was the oline struggling in the run game.
I don't know if he's a good fit in the Ravens' offense. He doesn't like to run from the Shotgun, which is what the Ravens would usually prefer. It was way too easy to guess whether they were going to run or pass based on which runningback was in the game on Thursday.
Spags seen Andy was calling a timeout and the referee wasn’t paying attention.
KC's mean muggin on that O-Line. My god, you're gonna need a good QB to pick up that blitz.
Henry had 13 carries and 46 yards.
No it’s week one, they don’t have a line there defense is fine. The oline might get better as the season progresses. They have to build into a cohesive unit which could take all season so don’t count your chickens before they hatch
I guess my point is, how do you say that they catch lightning in a bottle?
This is a heavily over dramatic take of what happened in that game.
Lamar balled out, the first likely endzone throw was not some egregious miss, thats a hard throw that needed to be over the defender but in reach of Likely, maybe a hand or 2 overthrown. The miss to Zay was bad but even that one Zay needed to stop. I think that pass showed a lack of chemistry more than anything, thats the kind of stuff that Kelce nails for Mahomes, he makes the play easier by knowing what to do and Mahomes knows hes gonna do it right. Most importantly he followed it up with a great pass that came a toe within a TD. the offense looked like they were definitely figuring things out and thats what happened last year with Monken too. I expect to see Lamar continue with his progression like he does every year and if that O-line can get into a rhythm he'll be just fine and back in the MVP convo. He was a toe away from a potential winning 2 pt conv., I mean the ravens are elite on those end game ballsy plays.
All of that without mentioning they played the chiefs lmao lucky ass team, the penalties were egregious (and we better see that same formation penalty killing teams all weekend) and Mahomes of course is Mahomes. Great game and outside of the O-line, im liking what I saw as long as they do figure out how to get Henry more involved. The defense is still insane on paper and I think PQs replacement is about to be an upgrade, and ill never stress the offense.
Lamar said in the post game press conference that the throw was not intended for Zay, but Bateman. Rashad either cut the route short or Lamar thought he would improvise and continue running to the open area. Agree with everything else you said.
@davidmc8475 I didnt listen, and I should lol. If thats true, that only further shows chemistry issues. He and Likely are on the same page but he cant get his verticality down on the jump balls. That simple adjustment and we have our red zone target.
This offense is gonna click I just hope its in a game or 2.
Why does zay need to stop. He was running wide open, going away from the defenders who covered bateman. Bro. I ilke lamar. Rooting for him next to allen, herbert and mahomes. But he needs to stop choking like lebron or harden. He always play great and hard untill the rubber meets the road. Than he does some stupid or incompetent stuff
@chiecheung25 I heard Lamar apparently said that pass wasn't supposed to be for Zay, so whatever. I'd have to listen to his post-game talk and rewatch the play to understand that, regardless, Lamar did what he had to win the game and it came down to the sheer odds that 0.0001% of Likelys body landed out of bounds. Lamar may have had a bad throw on that last drive, but he still followed it up with a winning throw. He didn't choke.
@@gDiniM bro he missed 2 open receivers. 1 of them was WIDE ASS open. I like lamar. Why are you defending him this hard. He DIDNT EVEN SEE A WIDE ASS OPEN REVEIEVER. And that 3rd pass he overthrew. It is because likely is such an athletic guy. Maybe megatron could have caught that pass better. Or OBJ, TO. Or wait Randy could have even mossed it
A Ravens loss is always nice.
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I was going for the japanese karate movie look - but I know, didnt set my shutter speed properly, it will be fixed! Appreciate the eye for production quality tho
27-20, great call!!
Over reacting lol They looked fine besides penalties 😂 Losing to the chiefs by a Toe is not them being exposed 😂😂 Y'all love to over react for clicke
Not overreacting at all, they will not be as good as last year, that’s the basis of my take and not hard to believe
when you are running for your life with less than 2 seconds to pass all game, no throws are easy. Mahomes was not under duress. When Ravens oline is fixed look out.
Maybe the ravens should trade qbs with the chargers. Herbert is smart strong arm, accurate, big bodied, tough and i as a Chiefs fan would love if he was out of the afc west....and the Chiefs could play lamar at least twice a year. You guys know herbert is a very good qb and so do we. He needs to be on a different team to succeed and the ravens need to get rid of lamar to succeed.
That is the stupidest take I’ve ever heard wth
Nice click bait. Judge a team off one game against defending champs is probably the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard.
What is click bait about it? The thumbnail says the old ravens are gone, I listed all of the departures that they've had which were clearly reflected in the Ravens run game? I also acknowledged that they're still a very good team that will be in every game because Lamar is so good - so again I ask, where's the click bait?
This guy has insane bone structure. Who’s with me?
what a weird thing to say.
Huh?
I’m with you there brother.
What a gay thing to say…🤮
Sounds kinda fruity
Lamar's a bum, always has been. He straight up regressed to rookie form this game. Can't lead receivers, can't secure the ball, all he can do is check down and get bailed out by skill players who will jump ship to a real QB at first opportunity. I'm just glad he fleeced the Ravens for his contract which will keep them as the bottom tier trash they are for years to come. And I'm gonna laugh when all the top tier drafts they get as a result ask for trades after 2 seasons with them.
Clown take 😂
I said oh I said the Ravens wasn't that good and the quarterback he can't throw the ball all I can do is scramble and you contain him you could beat them that defense ain't as good as it used to be and I guarantee you the browns will beat them this year
LOL Get back on your meds guy.