I Ultimate All My Planeswalkers At Once! | Historic MTG Arena
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- How many planewalkers can we ultimate in a single turn with the help of Doubling Season? Let's play some Double Bant Walkers and find out!
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Seth greeting rekt by mana tithe is the definition of karma lmao
True
"Teaching Arena Boomers about Mana Tithe"
@keesschuller6011 Back in my day we used to treat people with respec--- oh wait this is magic, nevermind.
To live by the Tithe is to die by the Tithe.
Serves you right for paying the one 😂
Shout out to the first opponent for letting you (and therefore us) see the combo in its entirety.
Well it's also just non-deterministic. Seth almost whiffed because if you don't have enough planeswalkers to Ajani kill they get an extra turn. Plus you should know what the combo is game one so you can fight against it game two.
I like that about halfway through, the UG Nissa started being called Tamiyo every other time he Played it lol
I like this deck, its like sitting down to play a tabletop war game but then half way through you break out the Action figures and have them start stepping on the little Soldiers.
Seth’s guttural scream as he gets his ramp countered by white will be remembered by me until the day I die.
Just started the video but the "Thats what we're gonna find out today" in the intro is maniacal 😂
The most weird thing about doubling season is that the [+1] abilites are COSTS, and dont double.
But yes, the starting ones do.
it's so weird
That's a bug. The rules say that they should be doubled
@@hoogamaphoneuntrue. Check Doubling Season's rulings in Gatherer. The second one explicitly says they don't.
@@hoogamaphone Planeswalkers will enter the battlefield with double the normal number of loyalty counters. However, if you activate an ability whose cost has you put loyalty counters on a planeswalker, the number you put on isn't doubled. This is because those counters are put on as a cost, not as an effect.
It’s not that weird once you wrap your head around the fact that loyalty modifications are costs. Not a doubling season thing at all. Maybe gets confusing when you’re used to vorinclex which doesn’t have the “effect” restriction
@@jungleboy1157 This is also why Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider is so scary. His abilities only care about counters being put on something and who put it there, it doesn't care what mechanic put it there. This means he doubles the loyalty you get from paying the loyalty ability cost as well as having them enter with twice as many.
One of the first videos of your I watched was Double moon walkers. Took it to a small modern event and won. Glad to see an arena take on it.
Get Tithed on.
I'm so happy that Wizards is finally leaning into giving White B-Tier/C-Tier counter density to make it viable. It's absolutely good for the game.
Exactly.
What's more white than just saying 'no', while also being smug about it. And how extremely nieche but fitting your 'no' is.
:D
New drinking game: take a drink every time Seth calls "Nissa, Steward of Elements" "Tamiyo."
Been playing this deck on ladder for the past 5 days, and I think this is my favorite against the odds take so far. And I have been watching you guys for years.
So many ways to win, even and regularly without Doubling Seasons, lots of synergies between the PW and meme Jace... Oh boy, so freaking stupid 😂 Thanks Seth !
I think Richard Garfield would cry if you showed him this deck
Richard Garfield thought that Sinkhole was a totally fine card, he would love this kind of stuff.
@@LadyMorrigan Indeed. Garfield's most known desired trait is "discoverability". His favorite play style is Cube. He'd probably be a huge MtGGoldfish fan for that reason of variety and finding interesting things to do with the various interactions you find. He'd probably laugh as long as the deck wasn't a Channel / Oko level brokenness threat.
Garfield himself quote - " I want to use the tools other people aren’t using, or find some combination other people haven’t gotten to work. I take pleasure in trying to think outside the box in games."
Seth my sweet summer child, the amount of times you called the Simic Nissa Tamiyo. XD
Ikr? What’s up with that?
Seth says "best deck in the format" about every deck
Anything with Sheoldred and Bowmasters is the best deck in the format
3:20 budget brew??? seth and i must have massively different budgets 😂
1:15 It's better than an Ancestral Recall. Ancestral Recall puts you at +2. This puts you at +3, because it doesn't leave the board.
I took double moon walkers to many Modern FNMs and always did fairly well, I've been waiting for you to post a new superfriends with the new double season and I couldn't be happier 😊😊
Props to the first guy who stayed till the end
I'm missing an Oath of Teferi so bad in this deck lmao. Even more planeswalker ults!
Love that you made a version of my deck, though I would highly recomend adding "Samut, the tested" she is a 4 of in my deck and wins the game faster❤
This totally looks like a Phill deck and I'm all for it 😁
I guess I now know what it would feel like to play a yugioh deck against an mtg deck
Nah, that's Vintage
😂😂😂😂😂 The mana tithe!!!!
I can’t ever get made about getting Tithed.
@@MTGGoldfish*mad haha
24:23 opponent saw the line of making indestructible 6/6’s with vigilance even if we didn’t.
Why would they be indestructible
@@myztik5716 Because of Nissa's emblem
@@MrBeknacktoman Keeping going... and where are the 6/6s coming from
@@myztik5716 use the nissa -3 to get back other nissa who shakes the world:
Nissa, Who Shakes the World
{3}{G}{G}
Legendary Planeswalker -- Nissa
5
Whenever you tap a Forest for mana, add an additional {G}.
+1: Put three +1/+1 counters on up to one target noncreature land you control. Untap it. It becomes a 0/0 Elemental creature with vigilance and haste that's still a land.
−8: You get an emblem with "Lands you control have indestructible." Search your library for any number of Forest cards, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
That +1, combined with the emblem we already have and doubling season makes 6/6 with vigilance every activation.
@@myztik5716 The Nissas in the graveyard can both animate lands.
Ah yes, Double Moon Walkers, back in the days of fair magic.
Tamiyo, Steward of Elements. You heard it here first, folks
This is the coolest deck of all time and can have ssooooo many variations,my mind is buzzing whit possibilities!!❤️
The scream at 20:07 was precious 😂😂
Wilds of eldraine seems to have brought forth a lot of Bant Value (tm) decks.
You know it's a good video when Seth starts complaining about his opponents conceding
I'm surprised Seth didn't have 1 of vorrenplex (how ever it's spelled) to have a creature version that's technically better than doubling season for Planeswalkers in this deck for the fun of
There were definitely a few times where he could have used the U/G Nissa to put it into play if he manipulated it to the right spot with a scry the previous turn. It dies to more removal than doubling season though.
Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider is the card you're thinking of
@@kylegonewild She is not getting to 6 loyalty
I've been playing a similar list on arena for a while, using Vorinclex before Doubling Season was printed.
The Ajani, the Jace, the Nissa Vital Force, and the Wrenn are unnecessary.
Trim Two Ugins as well.
Add 6 in your personal preferred combination from: Farewell, Settle the Wreckage, Gideon of the Trials, Skyclave Apparition, or The One Ring.
^ These are the core that help you stop losing to aggro.
Farewell is the best catchall for Bo1, but a combination of Gideon making opponents commit to the board makes your wraths better.
And as SOON as your opponent kills off and "uncorks" the gideon, they flunge right into Settle the Wreckage.
The One Ring buys you time to get to Farewell mana without dying on T4, and solves the "ramp, ramp, no gas" problem these decks have often.
Very good shell. Lots to play with.
all these cool things? unnecessary. do this entirely different thing instead. I am Karl. You should listen to me
@@cluelesscardgamer, your screen name is very apt. Changing 6 cards does not an entirely new deck make.
Seth said he lost to aggro a lot. This is how you fix that. If you want to lose to aggro a lot, feel free to keep Seth's deck as-is.
Have a great weekend.
Tamiyo collector of tales might be a good addition, because 2 of them kill infinitely with the ajani and other tamiyo emblem out. minus one to get back the other. And it also protects against thoughtseize and invoke
Bro that first game was a violation. No combo should be that dumb, and yet that good. This is the definition of OP jank combos that actually work (I mean that’s this channel).
That Mana Tithe goes into the next "Iconic Seth Moments" compilation.
Seth calling Nissa Tamiyo pissed me off more than it should of
Seth playing utopia sprawl to fuel his jank. The arena ecosystem is at peace.
The double moon walkers got me invested in Modern back in the day. Just finished crafting this deck. Eventually, I'd like to get the blood moons and fetches for a timeless version, although I'm hopeful they'll include oath of Nissa, Gideon ally, and 3 drop Nissa so I can make the deck as I like. Maybe on future remastered sets
from my recent experience, doubling season big planeswalkers work good with blink effect. I would consider adding Displacer Kitten to this Historic deck, so you could draw whole your deck with Ugin and Tamiyo
I'm surprised "Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider" isn't in this deck as a one-of or something!
Only deck I actually imitated; used all my wildcards, making some modifications to make it my own; damn it really is sweet. My previous deck was based on discard, and lets be honest, as fun as it is taking away all your opponent's options, making an OP offense is much funner; thanks Seth; I'd certainly seeing a little bit need for early removal or board wipes; Def see why you might put some in there; The early aggros can get you fast
Double Moon Walkers was my first FNM deck. Real nostalgia there.
I *love* this deck, thanks seth, i've been wanting to make something like this work for a while now, and this looks really tight.
Should ultimate Nissa vital force before ultimating Nissa Who Shakes the world. This will let you draw most of your deck for the Ajani poison kill instead of risking fizzling and dying on the backswing.
He says that himself at 28:04
Yeah, I realized it but too late. You are right though
i feel like some of the planeswalkers could be replaced by planeswalkers with stronger ultimates, especially since the goal is not paying to play them like Chandra, Flame's Catalyst is another refill with pseudo omniscience, Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God is a copy of other planeswalkers and if board is empty it's auto win. You don't have to splash much of colors since Tamiyo, Ugin and Chandra are all refills with pseudo Omniscience
Seth just casually missing lethal at 39:40
Ugin shoots blocker, activate nissa, play 2nd nissa, swing for 9
mirror box likes this deck
Seems win-more. The deck seems to win fine without it.
In a weird way legend ruling our planeswalkers is an upside since we can get them all back with Wrenn
18:50 op drew more bow masters than lands. Shuffler is fine.
that mana tithe got you so bad. brutal, but incredible when you have made videos on the wonders of mana tithe previously.
Should add vorinclex monstrous raider as additional counters
LOL The doubling season walkers plays almost like a The Great Aurora deck where your almost playing a different game and not magic the gathering! The great aurora deck would basically flood your resources while everyone but you draws less and less and gets new board states every time u aurora. Exile your retreat to hagra with white enchantments so it sticks when u slam all lands u draw with the great aurora. Lol. Everyone def scoops when your going off too.
Poor Nissa, Seth keeps calling her Tamiyo
The deck list you use needs to be updated already. Telling us the monetary and tix cost is great, but a wild card breakdown for the deck would be helpful as well.
Though I don't think it's that relevant, since many people probably have most of these in Arena anyway since it's easier to hoard cards than rl (and if you don't have many of them, you probably don't have the wc's to outright buy this deck), but it would be an easier thing to track than looking up costs for each card, so it's still not a bad idea.
I would include a one of no cards library’s win jace.
In the fight against Shinkai, you coulda gotten your ramp on a bit faster if you hadn't tapped your Plains immediately on turn 2
Tap the Forest + Sprawl Green for GG, play Sprawl on the Plains for Green, Plains now taps for WG instead of just W, you get to play your Wolfwillow and second Sprawl immediately and be ramped up to 5 mana for Doubling Season +1 for an Esper or Tithe or whatever
Holding back for Lili makes some sense though
Love watching Rakdos get absolutely shit on.
Made my morning, catching up, to see Rakdos get absolutely ruined.
If I had the wildcards I’d build this immediately. It looks super fun.
Planswalker storm is amazing
I like this budget deck
This deck is amazing. Also so was the Mana Tithe! :)
29:40 when did Nissa became Tamyio
It's a two card combo that wins the game, literally splinter twin :V
My love for this is high. ❤❤❤❤ All the doubling. I wonder if doubling season makes turtle combo better.
Insert Tim Robinson screaming “WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?”
I still prefer cultivate over wolfwillow haven for ramping up to five. With utopia sprawl now, actually more than ever. It's more consistent afterwards and less susceptible to interruption. It's also more mana optimal if you do it on curve with a sprawl. _And_ in this specific case, it also sucks the lands out of your library that nissa doesn't hit to ensure more gas when you pop off like you wanted to.
I just don't think the eventual 2/2 body is worth it.
But i also don't play superfriends decks that are allergic to bodies on the board :P
I'm surprised Seth is doubting whether this is jank. Of course, if you get to gold fish every game without any meaningful pressure the deck is gonna look strong. But it's extremely slow, has little interaction and gets rekt by hand disruption, agressive decks, tempo decks and counter tribal decks. Last opponent played like a paid actor. I still very much enjoyed the show though.
Nothing like a good game of solitaire
Temur All Will Be One with Castaway is the best version of this period
Needs Ichormoon Gauntlet
Give all yours Planeswalkers "0: Proliferate" and "-12: Take another turn".
This makes it so that Jace (along with Doubling Season) now gives you infinite Planeswalkers, infinite Creatures, and infinite Turns.
Clicked for the thumbnail alone xD
Woohoo it's doubling doubling doubling doubling season! 🎉🎉🎉
That's messed up. I like it
hehehehehehehehehe that moment where Seth gets a taste of his own medicine.
Its funny how mono-black went from being the big baddy in Standard to being the big baddy in Historic.
This deck kinda plays a lot like a storm deck, lol. Seth found a storm deck he can pilot well and fits his playstyle.
Just minus Ugin for 112. At that point the effect lingers and colored permanents just disintegrate on landing.
This looks just like my Atraxa superfriends deck
1:54 that was the most disgusting words you could say in a row for magic... ever
That was ridiculous but funny as hell.
Is Jace Architect of Thought on historic? He's basically 5-8 of Tamiyo since his ult can get tamiyo
He’s not
Bummer
That game one was so funny 💀
24:12 your opponent pulled a Seth and scooped way too early. He must watch your videos.
Question, do you control your opponents poison counters? I assume not. Since Vorinclex says “If you would put one or more counters on a permanent or player, put twice that many instead” also how come your planes walkers don’t get double loyalty from their abilities? Is it not an effect?
No-one expects the Mana Tithe!
So I feel like it's more optimal to scry with Nissa before activating draw effects, yeah?
Deck's missing oath of teferi so you can ult twice
This is why I always run Extract the Truth...
Coo coo chooing season
Is this the Much abrew or the against the odds of the week?
Okay do this deck again but with Dragon God Bolas 🙀
Those were A LOT of bowmasters...
removing Jace every sideboard round was soul crushing. you kept the ugins and nissa but got rid of jace..... painful
Is that a little assist tool at the bottom left that has eye icons, says "Deck" & "Opponent", shows the percentage of lands in your deck, and shows how many lands you have down and how many are untapped?
Yeah, that’s part of untapped.gg which is what I use to track my matches. Worth downloading imo and free
Is there a budget version of this deck? 😅
Ha not really, with all the planeswalkers being mythic I have no idea how there could be a budget version
@@MTGGoldfishoh dear I didn’t think you’d read this. It was a joke ❤
20:03
Well well well 😂🎉
Edit: (time)
Here before the short is released.
Do you pay the 1?
I'd add vorinclex as the deck is screaming for it.
I'm so confused why you discarded tamiyo and not a land. Then talked about trying to find a tamiyo. Why exactly was one land tha'ts easy to find with nissa more important?
24:00 Isn't the plan just to make indestructible 5/5s? I'm pretty sure that's what your opponent is conceding to.
Like sheoldred only kills you in 6 turns when you have blockers for days
I looked up the cards to check - Nissa Steward only turns the lands into creatures until end of turn (so they can’t be blockers).
Nissa who shakes the world makes lands in to creatures and puts 3 counters on them, they even have vigilance. It's by no means a guaranteed win for seth at that point but I think he was ahead.@@dementievatz
@@dementievatz ah fair enough then I don't know. Perhaps opponent is as ADHD as I am
Log on just as you posted this🎉