WORST CAR FAILURES OF ALL TIME | PETERSEN TOUR
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On today's Petersen Vault tour, we explore the industry's failures. Reliability, 3-wheels, cost, and many other factors went into these vehicles failing in the industry. All of them were observed by the industry on what not to build and some were even shut down by the automotive industry themselves.
Discover the stories of the Ruxton, Preston Tucker, Geraldine Carmichael and more.
On this tour, we ask "What were they thinking?"
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WOW!! At 30:40 mention is made of an absolutely stunning automobile,, the 1953 Dodge Storm V250. What an amazing car! We see so many later model cars from many, many other auto manufacturers in the way ahead of it's time Fred Zeder Jr. styling in that car. The very distinctive open, flared wheelwells, the raked headlights ( recognize the 1965/66 GTO anybody?),, the split front bumper ( 1971 Camaro??), the low slung hood scoop, the push button door release (no door handles), and we're sure there were many, many other awesome features you did not have time to share I really want to learn more about that beautiful car that Chrysler tossed in the ideas can. They really blew it didn't they. Didn't matter the cost as I would bet many would have been built. Ohh well.
I just got an Austin Martin DB feel from it... the only difference being, the DB has a more understated front...
I noticed the Lander / Coronet hood and yes the gto style front. It definitely has the Italian coachbuilt feel. It was one of my highlights in this video.
Had never heard of or seen that car prior to seeing this vid. Thanks for pointing it out, I zoomed right to it, goggled a bit, then backed up and watched the rest of the vid. Amazing car. But although the body was nice, I don't see why it HAD to be built in Italy, it didnt look beyond the capabililty of American factories, and that kind of cost excess no doubt helped kill the concept. Shame!
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Designed in Italy. We, the USA, can build it. But, the Italian coachbuilders were on another level.
Designed by Bertone
The level of detail from the presenter - without cue cards or crib notes - was VERY impressive!
What if Henry Kaiser had meant Preston Tucker?
@@johnshelton1141 There would be a Kaisier Tuckerente....instead we have Kaiser Permanente.
@@johnshelton1141 I KNOW!!!!!!----THEY WOULD HAVE SOON SPLIT-UP!!!!!!!!!!!
BECAUSE KAISER HAD AN EXPERIENCED CAR EXECUTIVE IN JOE FRAZER;
--THE KAISER-FRAZER was named after him-& their MOST expensive product!!! JOE was INTERVIEWED BY THE MAGAZINE "COLECTABLE AUTOMOBILE in the 1980's, I OWN A COPY;---- MR. FRAZER basically
said that HENRY J. KAISER would NOT TAKE HIS ADVICE!!!!!!!!!
The most IMPORTANT advice was for KAISER to DEVELOP their OWN
OHV -V-8; LIKE CADILLAC, OLDS, LINCOLN, & CHRYSLER , ALREADY HAD!!!!!!!!! KAISER was BUYING a 6 CYLINDER 110 Hp. GENERATOR
engine-for a car in THE OLDS, & CHRYSLER price range; THOSE haveing
150 to 175 Hp., & increasing YEARLY!!!!!!!!!
INSTEAD HENRY INSISTED upon modern styling & a compact car;
--FRAZER QUIT HIM, BEFORE KAISER's MISTAKES caused the unavoidable
sales COLLAPSE!!!!!!!!!
TUCKER would have LEFT KAISER EARLIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed! This gentleman is VERY knowledgeable about so many of the cars. Most impressive. I can barely keep track of my minuscule collection.
Hardly, I know the story about Tucker, and this guy is not only ignorant, he is incredibly stupid. Being indicted for something doesn't mean you are guilty of anything as we see in the case of Tucker, the government was unable to prove a single thing against him, and not only that, the government shut his company down and ruined the man, for nothing. And since apparently a lot of people are ignorant and stupid they all did not understand how it happened or how the justice system works and so most people thought he was guilty of something.
This guy knows his stuff, impressive! I subbed. He's done his homework!
Thank you for your support! Glad you enjoyed it!
That Tucker is a beautiful looking thing , m’kay? The Dodge Storm is just fantastic!
More incredible than the cars them selves is our wonderful guides knowledge of said cars. Brilliant! Zip~
I had a Corvair in the 1960s. It was one of the best cars I ever had of that era. The only other car that edged it out was the Volkswagen. The Corvair had a much better road feel than anything from Ford.
I had a couple corvairs (60 and 66) and a 62 Nova. In total the 62 Nova was much better than the 60 corvair. For handling/performance the 66 Corvair was best. If I put myself in the position of what most informed car buyers of the time who only have one car would want overall it would be the Nova because it did everything well. Our family also had a 64 Chevelle (283HO) which I would rank as one of best most balanced car designs of the era.
In the early sixties you could get a Corvair with a 150 horsepower turbo charged Flat 6 air-cooled motor what did Porsche have? An anemic four banger with 60 horsepower. Second generation Corsa came with either four carburetors or 180 horsepower turbo. A very Advanced car like nothing else in the United states.
Seems a bit tough to call the Corvair a failure when they built 1.8 million of them.
It opens up an interesting conversation doesn't it? How about the Trabant? Truly one of the world's technically worst cars yet it gave transportation to millions.
I agree.
The Corvair was one of the primary targetsipf Ralph Nader's "Unsafe At Any Speed" book which torpedoed several "targets" in the American auto industry.
I thought the Corvair was a great car.
Many older Porches are tricky at speed, but belong in a niche market. I believe R.N. probably was right with regard to a mass market product.
Should be titled "WORST CAR BUSINESS FAILURES." Most of those cars were good to very good.
Daniel Burgess thanks, good thought:::: I am from WARSAW INDIANA, KIND Of a STUDEBAKER FAN( Nice Museum in S BEND In)......sneaking of business failures, etc.
Agreed, a few isolated examples of engineering (or more often, "not actually doing the engineering") failures, primarily business failures or outright fraud. Still loved the tour!
It's all the same thing. The lesson to be learned here is, to be a success in the car business takes a whole lot of different elements to come together: engineering, art, sentiments of the buyers, changing times, investment money, legal issues, competition, and even someone like Ralph Nader can destroy a car that otherwise is a success by convincing most people of something that isn't true. Countless things can lead to failure. Failure is indeed defined by whether profits exceed expenses. Without that, the project dies. Fails.
@@DonTruman If a project is successful UNTIL it dies, is it really still a failure?
Fantastic tour! I had the good fortune to visit the museum in 2007..to my surprise, many of the cars on display then - are in the vault now! Elvis's Pantera, Elton's Delehaye, the black Ferrari gifted to Henry Ford...great memories re-kindled. Thank you!
Re: the Edsel. A friend of mine said his father won an Edsel by selecting the 7 LAST PLACE Horses at a Southern California horse racing track! Probably a joke by the race track promoters. I know my friend was driving his father's Edsel up until at least the 1970"s.
I look forward to all your videos. Those of us who love classic cars, design, and history are really enjoying your tours during this time. Just fantastic. Thank you!
was this all done as one take? im impressed that you don’t seem to be using notes. i like the informal style. a lot of people would have ruined this with music and unnecessary editing.
p.s. ok, now ive seen a cut. but i still get the feeling that it was just some walking footage that got cut.
I drove 1200 miles to go to this museum a few years ago! Went by myself and looked at every single car and read every placard.. I took hundreds of pictures!! Maybe the best place I've ever been to!! I did not go into the vault as it wasn't open, so these vids the last few days are awesome!! If you haven't been to the Peterson museum and you like cars, you need to go here at some point in your life.
Thank you for your support!
Thank you for posting this video. This guy is great! Jason is a wealth of information. I am so glad I watched this video. Please post more videos about the cars in your museum.
Thanks so much for this video. I was surfing videos and found nothing of any interest, until this came along. Excellent! Thank you!
Thank you Jason for this amazing tour. Very interesting stories behind these cars.
Awesome Video!!! Jason does an awesome job explaining this beautiful knowledge!! Thank you for sharing!!!
Very thorough and well put together tour, thank you so much!
Thanks Jason and everyone at the Petersen! So interesting! I'm Learning so much from your tours and videos! And what an amazingly rich and varied collection of cars you have! ❤️ the Zeder .. so beautiful .. kind of logical that the firm behind such sublime styling, Bertone, would go on to be responsible for the Miura and the Countach .. but so sad that it exists now really in name only, not designing cars any more the way they used to .. so in another sense keeping with the today's theme. Isn't the world a richer place for all the adventurous souls following their dreams and making these cars real! 'til next time, take care everybody ... 😀 .. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 ... P.S. So looking forward to the Cars & Coffee next weekend !!!
Very informative and interesting. One of the few 45 minute long TH-cam videos I've seen where I find myself wishing it had been longer.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This presenter is the best of all of them. He really knows his stuff and shares a lot of very interesting facts about the cars and the companies. I hope he does more of these. Great show!!
Cool videos lately. I've been to the museum twice and loved it.
That last crazy story of the Dale/Revette sounds like it needs to be a Hollywood movie! Trying to push some lesser car, has it featured on the Price is Right, murder, flees to Texas, pushes it again, cease and desist, disappears, used to be a man, what? WHAT?!
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Look for, RegularCarReviews, Tale of the Dale
@@M4DesignUSA Wow.That really is quite the story.Straight out of daytime soaps meets mystery movie of the week.
Then disappeared and a TRANSVESTITE was arrested who impersonated both of them.
Who wouldn't like to spend an entire day walking around there.
Great presentation , great narration , fantastic knowledge about cars. Thank you!
Very impressive tour and so educational! I haven't seen the Corvair in a long time glad you mentioned it on this tour.
Very joyful afternoon watching this cool video!
My favorite vault tour video. I like the perspective of what works and what doesn't work in the innovation of the changing automobile industry.
Well done. A few were new to me. All had fascinating stories. Bravo!
Most sound like they were created by Homer Simpson. "All my life, I have searched for a car that feels a certain way. Powerful like a gorilla, yet soft and yielding like a Nerf ball. Now, at last, I have found it. Homer, The Car Built for Homer."
Great presenter and educational. Didn’t know 3/4 of these and I thought “I knew” cars. Nope, just scratched the surface. And for Jason to talk without skippin’ a beat was awesome! Cheers from Maine 🍻
Glad you enjoyed it!
WOW..... This man knows his stuff! Absolutely amazing detailed knowledge! Bravo my friend, bravo!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I really enjoyed the information from this video. I learned so much.! Thank You!
Great stories. Especially the last one.
Edsel....ultimate example of general public giving corporate hype a reality check.
Man, what a great video! Quite a collection of wonderful and odd cars. I was going to watch a different vide but this one kept me glued to it. Thanks for the presentation, I learned a lot.
Very interesting tour. Thank you Jason!
Corvair was a sales success..more than 1,000,000 copies made...Nader did not kill the Corvair..It was Mustang with a hot V-8 for less money..
Amazing classic cars, and very interesting, thankyou very much for the video :)
That was a lot of fun. Beautiful cars. Thank you so much.
This was fantastic! Thanks so much for the content we want!
I hope to make it over one day soon from the east coast!
Thanks for the tour love all the cars in the background to
Interesting automotive history lecture. Well done Sir!😎🏁
Fantastic video! The Kaiser Darrin and Tucker Torpedo were both fantastic designs in their own way. Sad that neither were profitable:(-John in Texas
Amazing spectacle, very well presented.
@25:24 I agree Cisitalia 202 is lovely :)
Love the Zeder- one of the most beautiful cars of all time, IMO. Thanks for sharing its story.
I thought it had a touch of Barris, no? Definitely a fave of mine in this tour, that and the '32 Ford.
I'd never heard of it, but it is a gorgeous car.
Awesome collection, great display, well made video and such a knowledgeable orator. this video creates the exact opposing emotions of what were dealt outduring the troublesome times of the greed depression.. oh typo 'great' depression.... attentive viewing! thank Q.
Jason rules! This might be my all-time favorite take on the vault tour.
What a collection!! You even have an International Scout!!! Truly impressive!!! I had never even heard of the Dodge Storm, and its a beauty. Thank you so much for sharing some of the cars with us.
Edsel was, really, not a bad car. My home town in Michigan used a '58 Edsel Villager station wagon as an ambulance until about '67. A family friend put over 100,000 miles on a '59 Edsel station wagon. The Edsel was often called "Mercury sucking a lemon" because of the horse collar grill.
I also drove a second generation Corvair that belonged to a friend. I would never have bought one just because of how light on the front end it felt at only 65 MPH. Down right scary.
Edsel is just a rebodied Fairlane and those are completely reliable. I drive a 57 with 292 and adapted 5 speed.
There's a Corvair resto shop near me. The owner has told me most people weren't aware they're supposed to run low (10psi?) In the front apparently 🤷♂️
Very good and enjoyable presentation. Wouldn't have known all these stories,!! amazing and quite informative and all in one place. Brilliant.. Also, if I just couldn't see the video, only hearing the audio , I would have thought it is Tom Hanks (him of 'Angels & Demons' fame) speaking!!🤗
Maybe should have included the Delorean.
The Petersen hot rod museum has one there. It's on display 2nd floor above.
Or the Bricklin SV-1
I was waiting for a Pacer to be in there!
@@janknuckey Hey, now! Don't mess with the mighty Pacer. Best of all was going to the local hang out in the Levi's edition especially when a cute pair of skin tight blue jeans was sitting on the hood. ;-) Better still was slipping away to some quiet and dark spot to watch "the falling stars" through that ginormous rear window. Stars, a few beers you stole from dad while listening to Venus and Aquarius on Rockin' AM and you were assured of at least second base!
God, I miss bench seats and station wagons.
The Toronado . I was expecting it 100%.
Awesome video!! Thanks for sharing your collection.
Thanks for watching!
I still have brochures of the Dale car. Their headquarters, the 2oth Century Motor Car Company was located on Ventura Blvd in Encino, Ca.
Very interesting tour.
Very interesting piece - thanks!
Great presentation. Very educative and entertaining.
The first-generation Corvair looks amazingly like an NSU Prinz. The second generation was a handsome and pleasant machine, especially when the engineers defeated the bean-counters and installed a double-jointed axle, rather than the crude but cheaper single joint.
I had a '66 Corvair Corsa with the turbocharged engine. Handled like a dream with some added weight in the trunk. The real drawback of the 'vairs was that they all leaked oil like a sieve.
You must be the smartest and knowledgeable car person I have ever listened to. Thanks for a lot of knowledge
Thanks for the tour Jason 👍
Fantastic. Very well done.
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Far out headlights on the Ruxton at 6:05. Thanks for the tour.
The Peterson Museum has the most impressive collection. This cellar tour makes it even more impressive. I also saw a pipe organ display that was unexpectedly beautiful. I am sure to go back there again.....too many to see in one day.
Great video. I just saw the Jonkhere Round door Rolls Royce. I'm happy. Thank you.
Thought you would have mentioned the Stanley Steamer. They refused to adapt to the demands for internal combustion engines by continuing to produce external combustion engines (steam), and fought back against other companies by putting out ads calling then "internal explosion engines".
Great Video lots of great info!
Fascinating. I agree that the Zeder is exceptional, obviously influenced by the likes of Ghia, Pininfarina and Zagato, and unfortunately proof that the US car-buying public was too susceptible to the marketing whims of the majors and their excesses of flashy chrome, absurd body designs and multicolored paint jobs. I would love to see this car in action. Thanks for the tour.
I could spend days in there, awesome.
Great Tour JASON!!!
Thanks Petersen! I look forward to visiting the museum when it's open again.
Was Budd Body the same company that made the Burlington Zephyr trains in the '30s ?
The Dodge Zeder reminds me of the French Facel Vega and that car has a Chrysler V8 engine. Beautiful body work on the Zeda and the Chrysler gas turbine cars driven by
the public also had their bodies made in Italy.
Man I love these videos.
That citrus orange/yellow color is fantastic.
Thnx for this interesting content
Out of all the cars the last one is the most aerodynamic. That teardrop shape is what cars should be.
You have my dream job! What a fascinating place to work, with so many exciting vehicles.
Wow! This presenter is awesome. What knowledge. I have never heard of thrPeterson Museum before.
I really enjoyed visiting the Petersen collection when I was in LA in August 2019.
Great tour.
What an amazing collection, would love to document it in person.
Many nice vehicles thanks for showing them off
Great Video! Very educational and interesting, I did have to laugh every time he said okay because I felt I was on a guided tour by MR Mackey! 🤣
Wow. It’s been years since I’ve been to the Petersen Museum and I obviously need to pay a visit soon. Thanks for the great stories on these cars.
Our pleasure!
Fascinating!
Great video ! Thank you ! Excellent camera work! the camera guy pans to other cars that are fascinating even though their not part of this presentation. GM corrected the swing axle by making it double jointed, but after Unsafe At Any Speed was published, the damage was done. Any car can roll over; a double jointed axle Corvair can certainly out handle a lifted Jeep! and people still drive those....
Thank you very much!
Yep, but unlike a Jeep, it looked like it may go round the odd corner, without too much near death.
Ok. I need about a 10 hour tour with you on these same cars....want to know more details of the cars themselves. Very intriguing!
What good car stories especially the "Dale" one!
Be still my heart... That might be my old Corvair! Right color, right year... Ralph Nader was media seeking. GM fixed most, if not all of the identified issues. The 67 Corsia was awesome.
In 1980, I was fortunate to visit the Harrah's Auto collection in Reno, Nevada. Great collection that , unfortunately was scattered after Bill Harrah passed away.
"You can have any color you want . Just as long as it's BLACK" 😂
I think that is fascinating and very interesting.
Great job Jason
You didn't mention the Corbin.
It's the little pinkish red bubble like thing beside the large pink and purple front drive car.
I didn't catch it, but was working for the "exclusive" san francisco dealership that was owned by one of his big investors. After checking it out and talking to Mike Corbin, I started asking a lot of questions on how it was going to be under $13K if each car had nearly $30K in it, he gave a speil about how many he's be building within a year and a bunch of other crap. Our demo car rolled over while the shop owner was driving, and the car was badly damaged. I knew the entire corbin motors was just a scam when he was showing a mockup of an engine being developed, one from the same company another scammer back in the early 90's was trying to sell off as the new Indian motorcycle company. That bastard Mike Corbin was lucky to keep his motorcycle accessory company after all that.
13:40
1975 Dale made by Liz Carmichael was on Unsolved Mysteries by Robert Stack and Aired on April 26 1989.
The Edsel was a committe design. I believe they were an OK car. But from a market viewpoint a bit like the "Srewdriver - hammer- compass- flashlight tool". Love the Dodge Zeder. (UK)
No, they weren't oK. My dad inherited a new Edsel when his father suddenly died in 1958. The AC went out the first month and the car would flood and stall more often than start cleanly. It got horrible gas mileage and was very much in the vein of the "American Barge" auto design. All around, a real turkey.
10:51 - I had two of those!! Never quite got around to restoration though...
Great history !
I could spend weeks in this museum, such interesting and AMAZING collection with tons of history. I wish the cars were positioned based on type, the current layout make the narrators job awkward and difficult. That said hope u do a vid on the truck, the sports cars, and the imports!!!
Great video
Interesting. I remember the Dale saga when it played out originally. Looking at the prototype, I noticed that the "turn signals" up front are actually the Marelli front side marker lights on my Alfa! There's a pair of red ones in the back, too.