Does Battle of Z Really Deserve All the Hate? - A Retrospective

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  • @spiral1407
    @spiral1407 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    I used to play the demo on 360 all the time as a kid. Guess how surprised I was when I later heard people HATED the full game

    • @randommexican6676
      @randommexican6676 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nah for real I loved the demo,
      You had up 4 people in one team.
      I thought it was ok

  • @sonicfan064
    @sonicfan064 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    4:55 Well actually 🤓in the source material the manga written by the great Toriyama Akira, Goku actually used a Kaioken x4 versus Vegeta. So basically if you used your mind a little bit🤓 you’d realize technically Vegeta did infact fight 4 Gokus 🤓🤓

  • @thedevilsleutice
    @thedevilsleutice วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I argue cutting GT out of the 7th generation of consoles or gimping it heavily hurt the games around that time, and I’d argue it still hinders the series. I feel GT charachters were some of the gunner charachters in the games, and never felt out of place in the games.
    My arguement. Look at burst limit, look at infinite world.. Look at ragingblast look at Tenkaichi 3 which was 2 years ago.

    • @Jt-fx8tl
      @Jt-fx8tl 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Huh

  • @the-aspiring-creator4249
    @the-aspiring-creator4249 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Battle of Z is a fascinating game because frankly when taken for what it is? It's a good one that's genuinely pretty fun. The problem was in large part just how BADLY it was marketed here in the US and the time it was released. After Ultimate Tenkaichi and Kinect, it was pretty clear that if people weren't fatigued by the yearly releases? They were at least REALLY wanting a more traditional Dragon Ball fighting game and seeing as how this one that had team battles? That sounded real cool and certainly Bandai made a big deal of that. Plus it's a DBZ game coming to the Vita meaning at least those who owned that sadly underutilized handheld who were fans could feel that system was at least a bit more vindicated. All the marketing made this out to be a fun unique fighting game... even though it's more of a MOBA at least from what some people have said... and it has no local... and it's barely an inconvenience to snap the game in half and ahem... mod your stats to give yourself a ludicrous advantage with busted upgrades which you kinda feel you need because lest you play with real people? You will be treated to some of the most unhelpful, most BRAINDEAD AI partners and gimped rewards and considering to unlock the whole roster you need to get some high ranks? That's not fun and neither is having to play babysitter to your teammates.
    But there's a charm to it. In fact, there's a lot here where one can see how with more polish this game could've been great. Unfortunately Bandai ensured this game would fail and now it's a bizarre oddity. This and to a degree the first Xenoverse and Ultimate Tenkaichi I'd very much categorize as being a part of that specific era Dragon Ball games where you can tell all the talk of them just being rehashes coupled with diminishing returns got to them and resulted in either fighting games being saddled with garbage that gets in the way or non-fighting games being marketed as though they were fighting games.

  • @kiwikratos
    @kiwikratos วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Hidden with Sonic Colours music is cool

  • @ssj3jay
    @ssj3jay วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Funny enough this game was the first dbz game i'd 100% and platinum out of many. personally from what i remember it was a crazy time to be db fan. and specifically since i played on the vita. my local friends owned it on consoles and practically ignored it with rb and rb2 as options but for the vita that was all the community had for themselves. definently a big dip from the psp era. something about the combat was that not only was it unbearably simple but it was also broken. i remember mixing the vanish/dash in the middle of combo strings and it could turn the simple combo into a large string lol and i remembered for some characters like ssj3 goku, broly, and gotenks it made them broken. GENUINELY lmao because the game wasnt built for those combos so some characters didnt benefit at all. and like i said for the vita this was the only db game you could have at the time before hacking. it led to me making connections with other players around the world like i remember playing with people from hong kong simply because i was a night owl and at that time players on the other side of the world were waking up hahaha the community would play the vs mode and turn off the team part and do 1v1 which made the combos even more broken since this game is built as a team arena game style so removing allies made it harder lol the co op side was baren even during this time because i dont think none of us cared about repeating the same old bland missions. but sadly i remember it was part of the achievements. luckly people like me in the community gained so much money in game that our builds could go and help any random newbie on co op. but even that was rare lol team based combat was new SO NEW it made me and other players abandon it long before the community itself would leave the game and just enjoy the vs part butchering the team aspect. when we vita players ignored everything the game was built on, it became a broken mess haha and that was all we had, so we played what we could and have fun lol and while i had fond memories im glad xenoverse, fighterz and sparking are here because this era for dbz games was so bad. i personally wouldnt come back hahaha

  • @selfmade223
    @selfmade223 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The final fantasy 13 music at 7:15 smacked me with nostalgia. You should do a retrospective on it, you don’t only have to do DBZ content. 🙌🏼

  • @luizfma3244
    @luizfma3244 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    this was the only exposure i had of dragon ball for about 5 years ;-;

  • @My_Master_Waves
    @My_Master_Waves วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Card system was actually a super good thing about the game, all cards could be used on any character and some unique cards could work very well with very certain characters. Which resulted in you having some form of builds, like anti stagger card on Broly or Cell was essentially creating a tank that could wipe whole teams online.

  • @bayomain71
    @bayomain71 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This game will always hold a special place in my heart.❤

    • @kevinlr8
      @kevinlr8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same, not the best but I played it a lot on my Vita during high school. I can’t believe it’s been 10 years.

  • @SakuraPhoenix153
    @SakuraPhoenix153 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    NO WAY!? IT'S FINALLY HERE! Now I know what I'm going to tell my family I'm grateful for this Thanksgiving. Plz pin.

  • @justanothersonicfan595
    @justanothersonicfan595 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Is it just me or is this game basically the prequel of xenoverse 1?

    • @MrRWord
      @MrRWord วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Just you tbh, the two games barely have anything common except being released in the same decade. Entirely different fighting mechanics and story design too

    • @saschaberger3212
      @saschaberger3212 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      More like sequel to Legends from PS1

    • @justanothersonicfan595
      @justanothersonicfan595 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @MrRWord Yeah, you've got a point there, but at least the graphics look similar.

    • @brandondanforth8342
      @brandondanforth8342 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I also felt the same way, like this, DBO and Ultimate Tenkaichi's cac story mode were the foundation for what would eventually be Xenoverse. Also, contrary to what MrRWord said, we are *not* the only two to feel this way. Not saying Xenoverse was already in mind, or that Xenoverse is directly descended from these games but when the argument against this is "different fighting mechanics and story design" as if those things cant change over time or that just because this is the case that means these games still couldnt have been inspirations for Xenoverse, I think until we get an official word on it, this little theory of ours is plenty plausible the only difference is we aren't touting our opinions as fact like some others...

    • @AirAmour
      @AirAmour วันที่ผ่านมา

      If the graphics are anything to go by, then yes. The characters in both games have way too vibrant colours and look as if they're constantly dipped in oil.

  • @nightlydata2181
    @nightlydata2181 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It was 1 of the few DB games I had & I played it way too much. I still have my PS3 copy. I won't lie I liked the game back then especially cus I could play as SSG Goku but even I could C it was pretty repetitive. It holds a special place for the hours I spent wit it so I'll always remember that. Cool vid

  • @taurusasaurusrex1183
    @taurusasaurusrex1183 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    yay! been waiting for this one!

    • @HiddenChannel
      @HiddenChannel  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you are excited for it!

    • @taurusasaurusrex1183
      @taurusasaurusrex1183 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HiddenChannel i played the online when it came out and it did make game more fun with friends but still not the best. bad single player

  • @m.u.n3424
    @m.u.n3424 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ayy these vids always are so cool bruv

  • @cheeseisgood17
    @cheeseisgood17 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    this game was so fun. I'll never forget unlocking the Beerus mission, so difficult

  • @batmanssgss
    @batmanssgss วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone born in 98' this was the first dragon ball product I can remember going "I wasted my money" which as a kid was soul crushing. Still played the hell out of it because it was the first game to have SSG as a playable form 😂

  • @EternalStorm796
    @EternalStorm796 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I just feel hurt that we got this and not Zenkai Battle Royal....

  • @wingedassassin9999
    @wingedassassin9999 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This game actually had team based mechanics. Unlike xenoverse, where your team only gets in the way

  • @Ace_of_Horns
    @Ace_of_Horns วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Ah Battle of Z. Where the character models look like the old DBZ action figures from Irwin Toys

  • @MoonlitSlime
    @MoonlitSlime วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have been binging your videos this past week and here you are with a new one 🙏

  • @papahudz69
    @papahudz69 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    *sees the title* good question let's find out

  • @nukedukem614
    @nukedukem614 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I remember this had that cool Naruto coatume

  • @Cautious_Gamer
    @Cautious_Gamer วันที่ผ่านมา

    This game is not even 2GB. Wow. I wasn't expecting this retrospective! Let's go!

  • @kazi1
    @kazi1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Nice, Sonic Colors background music

    • @HiddenChannel
      @HiddenChannel  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sonic games may be hit and miss but the music is always good.

    • @kazi1
      @kazi1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @ Agreed

    • @Hero-g7g
      @Hero-g7g วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@HiddenChannel Hi, Hidden. I'm here to say Thank you for sharing your experiences and thoughts on everything DBZ. I myself am a massive fan of DBZ except Dragon Ball Bio Broly, Garlic Jr, and Dragon Ball Evolution. GT is a awesome to me. Just Saiyan😅

    • @Hero-g7g
      @Hero-g7g วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dragon Ball Super is lackluster and Daima is a shameful, directionless, pointless, meaningless and insulting in my opinion.

    • @Hero-g7g
      @Hero-g7g วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@HiddenChannel I also find you extremely attractive.

  • @ali-akbarshah6488
    @ali-akbarshah6488 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always forget about this game

  • @SSJ3MetaridleyXros
    @SSJ3MetaridleyXros วันที่ผ่านมา

    i think being a pretty inexperienced studio + this title was first and foremost developed for the vita and later ported to the ps3 explain alot of the graphical issues of the game.
    btw will you review dbz kinect, jump force or some db handheld games as well?

  • @DJKmoneydog
    @DJKmoneydog วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ef what anyone says battle of z was fun as fuck, fun online multi-player was the appeal and they knocked it out 💯

    • @armplanet7524
      @armplanet7524 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree, had lots of fun in that battle mode and joining matches to play together with people.

  • @HDNDraxirch
    @HDNDraxirch 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    That bingo bit had me dying :D

  • @smtandearthboundsuck8400
    @smtandearthboundsuck8400 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember raging at it so yeah

  • @Rough_Estimates
    @Rough_Estimates 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    8 player free for all was too fun back in the day!!!

  • @radim279
    @radim279 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The Kanzenshuu podcast had a nice breakthrough of the game and how the developers probably intended it to be played.
    th-cam.com/video/ND27KkhqDl0/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/MfPBueSxyuQ/w-d-xo.html
    The conclusion is basically the same as Hidden's - you can see glimpses of a nice original game, but for every fun concept the developers came up with, they hamstrung themselves with half-baked execution.
    JC-what-a-shame.mp4, basically

  • @CaptainCJ97
    @CaptainCJ97 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I forgot get over how odd this game & nice music choice really enjoyed the kh & jak x music especially this song from jak x 5:00

  • @vanquese8947
    @vanquese8947 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I forgot about this game, shovel ware

  • @nightwingnl5354
    @nightwingnl5354 วันที่ผ่านมา

    5:59 sure game vegeta fires the galick gun from his eyes

  • @secretshadowdiver
    @secretshadowdiver วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    last I saw one of your videos I swore you had like 70k subs, what the heck happened

    • @ManniLive
      @ManniLive วันที่ผ่านมา

      Really?

    • @Noneofwhat
      @Noneofwhat วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're probably just associating the viewership count with subscription count

  • @saschaberger3212
    @saschaberger3212 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this like Dragon Ball Z Legends (Idainaru Dragon Ball Densetsu) from ps1? Like the secret sequel.
    Can't be the only one seeing the resemblance

  • @LionofDawn
    @LionofDawn วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought this game on a very cheap discount, only because it was a collectors edition with a Goku statue.
    I never bothered to play the game. Heard enough about it before to not even give it a try.

  • @HydrationIsMe
    @HydrationIsMe วันที่ผ่านมา

    Though i understood its flaws, i quite enjoyed this one. Specifically the CO-OP, because Multiplayer was trash.

  • @matheusrocha1184
    @matheusrocha1184 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Too long of a video for me to watch, but answering your question: Yeah, it does deserve.

  • @RunTheJorge
    @RunTheJorge วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can't wait for the Dokkan review

  • @onthedre
    @onthedre วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seems like this game is basically DBZ League of Legends.

  • @cryguy0000
    @cryguy0000 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Battle of Z I believe was my first DBZ game and how I experienced most of Zs story....very weird experience I gotta say. The game overall is very strange, it has such a unique atmosphere and gameplay style. It's a fine game, but not an amazing DBZ game.

  • @n.henzler50
    @n.henzler50 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:36 What the HFIL am I looking at? Dude's at 100% power, but 105% chromosomes. I think King Cold was too cheap to get him the cyborg surgery and opted for super glue. This is what happens when Zarbon leaves you in the ship on a hot Namekian day with the windows rolled up.

  • @TramiNguyen-oi3kp
    @TramiNguyen-oi3kp วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome DBZ movie!

  • @DARS_04
    @DARS_04 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It had a cool PS Vita port...
    That's about it.

  • @agenttex5973
    @agenttex5973 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly this game kinda lives and dies off its co-op multiplayer, This game can be played online for free through the PS3 Emulator with friends its STUPID fun building teams and working together to maximize speed and damage.

  • @runthetablefilms376
    @runthetablefilms376 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If you think about it, xenoverse is very similar to Battle Of Z

  • @47FloridaManDre
    @47FloridaManDre วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was the second game I ever pre ordered, I remember hating it as time went on. The difficulty, the No single player vs mode, the terrible AI partners, the shitty combat.
    Everything was annoying

  • @Eaglesoars8891
    @Eaglesoars8891 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It was a diffrent time back then😂

  • @ac04project
    @ac04project วันที่ผ่านมา

    You don't use your Pikachu anymore? Or Nintendo copywrite claims it?

  • @TheTwisted869
    @TheTwisted869 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone else have the Naruto outfit in this game???

  • @justcallmeezzy13
    @justcallmeezzy13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I personally hated this game but if anyone had fun hey more power to you no hat at all

  • @CaptainCJ97
    @CaptainCJ97 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This game really was something played the demo it was fine but glad i never bought it

  • @PoweredByFlow
    @PoweredByFlow วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This game looks like Xenoverse but jank and annoying as f'. lol

  • @kazi1
    @kazi1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hi

  • @verymelonman12
    @verymelonman12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't understand why TeamFourStar legit felt this game was better than Xenoverse 1 OR 2.

  • @jesuspernia8031
    @jesuspernia8031 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This era wasn’t really that good for dragon ball games tbh. That’s why people got excited at Xenoverse cause the last 2 games we got were rock paper scissors and battle of z.

  • @Greenbeast101
    @Greenbeast101 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes it does hate hate HATE this game

  • @TheShockVox
    @TheShockVox 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    YES

  • @thepurpleshade486
    @thepurpleshade486 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yes. next video plz.

  • @Makoto03
    @Makoto03 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I didn't hate Battle of Z as much as other people. But the game was WAY too difficult for its own good. It sucked away some of the enjoyment.

    • @armplanet7524
      @armplanet7524 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah man those boss fights or villian story parts were jarring

  • @dozenothere
    @dozenothere วันที่ผ่านมา

    i played it on vita

  • @karmitdafruge1
    @karmitdafruge1 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Imo yes i hated this fame and i player it when it came out

  • @notgoin2244
    @notgoin2244 วันที่ผ่านมา

    rub salt into the milk 😭😭

  • @aroccoification
    @aroccoification วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does battle of Z really deserve a video?

  • @criticalplat1num80
    @criticalplat1num80 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly, it's not great imo, but it's not the worst DBZ game. Dragon Ball Z Kinect is right there, guys.

    • @MrRWord
      @MrRWord วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      DBZ Kinect and Ultimate Tenkaichi are both worse than this tbh

    • @qdakid7776
      @qdakid7776 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrRWordnah ultimate tenkaichi is better than this

  • @dr3nch_g0d52
    @dr3nch_g0d52 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Battle of z?

  • @ironline6830
    @ironline6830 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The camera was so bad I never got past the tutorial still better looking than xenoverse (it's the ugliest dragonball game not counting taiketsu)

  • @J.Skyler
    @J.Skyler 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yes LOL

  • @om58499
    @om58499 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:15

  • @TheTwisted869
    @TheTwisted869 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Battle of Z was ROUGH!!!! And the fact Xenoverse is pretty much the same thing..... 🙄🙄🙄🙄 and yall hype up Xenoverse. Sparking Zero is the first good game since Raging Blast 2.

  • @redomega
    @redomega วันที่ผ่านมา

    The random audio clip jokes in your videos kill the pacing of the video and is annoying

  • @TheExtraordinarySaiyan0709
    @TheExtraordinarySaiyan0709 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve been waiting for this!!! Thank you Hidden 🥹