9:47 Point of order: the Genkidama was created by King Kai. With the new twist that "Kais are originally demons", doesn't that imply that it's a modification of a demon world technique?
We don't know that Kai's are demons. The glind tribe looks different to the other Kai's and in fact they aren't kai's at all "KAIO shin" is just a title.
I think it just ties back to the light magic and dark magic thing. Maybe the Kais broke away from the demon realm and started a new system opposite to the demon realm.
I don't think a being native to MAKAI is necessarily a "demon". Makai is not exactly the same as hell... Makai seems to be more of a world where native life is like life in the outside world.
We don’t currently know where king Kai is from. Kai’s are not a species, Kai is a station. The supreme Kai and his kind are from the Glind race making them from the demon world, but this is not necessarily the case for king Kai. And assuming that his species IS from the demon realm it’s exceedingly likely he didn’t create the genkidama until after he or his people left the demon realm.
Knowing that Akira toriyama made this all I'm going to say is that this is probably going to be the greatest send-off to his franchise ever put together and that he wanted to make something very special before he left us. That's what I believe
One thing I expect to happen at some point is one of the guardians is stronger than expected and force Goku and Vegeta to eat the bugs to fuse. Because the bugs are shiny and spherical, I would not be surprised that they are actually a base component of potara earrings, so any that fuse with them will get a potara fusion without the attached jewelry, thus mini Vegeto makes his debut. I just hope that a) he finishes the fight(s) this time and (b) the fusion lasts long enough to see him interact with other members of the cast. Especially bulma since I wonder what her reaction to him would be.
Wouldn’t it be a different type of fusion not vegito because he’s born from the earring and not gogeta because he’s born from the dance. This would be a new type of fusion born by bugs
@@MisterBurrChannel You're right, it would be a different result. But what I was saying is that if it turns out that the potara are made from the bugs since the glind and likely their earrings also come from the demon world, then the result could potentially be the same as a potara earring fusion.
@raygalaxy2717 Also, it would be a "conclusion" to shin showing to be disgusted by bugs throughout the series, only to find his earrings were bugs all the time
@@raygalaxy2717 no the earrings come from the gods. We learned that in super. Also neither does Degesu or Dr.Arinsu wears them so they don’t come from the demon realm
If you look at the intro, you can tell who will fight the dragon ball guys with piccolo, appearing with the second guy and Vegeta appealing with the last
One of my favorite things about Daima is the wish. It didn't change anyone mentally. Which means Goku does his best to act like an Adult but now that he's a kid again he's basically free to do all the silly stuff he wants to do.
I think it's completely possible that Arinsu is not only fighting for the funding of her experiments, but that the events of Daima are also a part of an experiment.
Before watching this video, my own prediction for Daimas ending was that Glorio works for someone begrudingly who isn't Kadan (which was confirmed a week ago with his phonecall with Arinsu) who would turn out to be the mainvillain. Gomah and his underlings reminded me too much of the Sandland group for me to be sold that they are bad guys. They are charismatic in a non-villainous kinda way and could easily be protagonists of their own story. Gomah has already been shown to be easily manipulated when his ego is targeted, so I could easily believe that all the bad things done in his name stemmed from Arinsu sowing seeds of selfdoubt, especially since this has already been shown to be the case in Episode 1.
You should check out blue dragon next. It's got the Akira toriyama art style and honestly an interesting concept f shadows fighting. Plus daima is straight up using it's art anyways when you see the animals
@ItsMichaelReid stands don't have their own agency or personalities most of the time. Stands are likes the swords from bleach without being able to talk much as a extension of power.
Wait so this might be the first dragon ball series written with an actual end goal. Damn Daima might be the first dragon ball series that doesn’t piss me off with its ending. Fingers crossed
I must say I had negative confirmation bias going into the story, and while the start did feel a bit slow to me, I'm really enjoying this. Also thanks for the quality content man, I love how deep you go into the story while maintaining quality and quanity!
I've been loving your recent Dragon Ball theories, first the one for Black Frieza, and now the one for Daima, and it's honestly really fun and sounds pretty solid, it's really a great time to be a Dragon Ball fan, rest in peace Akira Toriyama.
Wasn't it Gomah's second wish to obtain the Tertian Oculus, back when their impression was that Shenron was going to give them three wishes? That means that the theory that Degesu's wish is also that makes literally no sense, since when he asked to make the third wish, he already knew that Gomah was going to ask for that as his second wish.
10:28 first of all that transition is smooth second this is a very interesting video mark also metioned something ive been thinking about when i saw the first ep and that is degesu. he was giving off a very weird vibe and i immediately thought that he is going to be some twist villain and i would really like for him to be but know toriyama he is definitely going to do something completely different but im still holding out hope that he will be the twist villain of daima
HOLY SHIT MARK I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING!!! IF YOUR 6 + 9 THEORY IS CORRECT THIS MEANS IN THE FUCKING OPENING TRAILER OF "JAKA JAAN" WHEN THE "THOUSANDS OF SILLY JOKES AND JAB" SHOWS GOKU, THAT'S FUCKING TEENAGER GOKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry for capslock. I am too excited. It makes perfect sense. Because in EP 1 we see adult Goku without power pole. However in the opening intro we clearly see Goku with a power pole + Kintou'n! This also means we'll see teenager vegeta. Why? Because FUSION BUGS. They probably want some consistency in age/height so they can show us a teenager ('adultish') like fusion for merchandise and so forth.
This is my headcanon: I believe that Diama is trying to make Fusion Reborn cannon in some way. This will be achieved through what I believe will be a coup led by Arinsu against Goma. Try and follow me here. Bibidi and Babidi are both basically confirmed to be from the demon realm, babidi not so much because he was a clone but still. Anyways, why did babidi get control of Dabura? I believe that’s why Arinsu kept going to earth. She was most likely working with Babidi to get rid of her brother Shin who was selected as Kai while she was left in the demon realm. I think she then convinced or tricked Dabura into going to earth or led Babidi into the demon realm to overthrow Dabura as unlike Goma, Dabura was an imposing and scary leader. In the first episode when Goma watched buu get defeated and was freaking out, arinsu was in the background reacting with no emotion, almost as if she knew that Buu was going to fail. This is where Janemba comes to place. In fusion reborn he is created after what looks to be a demon employee acts a catalyst for the soon to be monster when a pump of pure evil blows up next to him. This is similar to how Goku fell into the spirit bomb and took in all of its energy. What if now instead of evil, Goma ends up next to the collected time tank when it will blow up and he merges into Daima Janemba, who instead of manipulating space can now manipulate time. The Oculus would then activate as some kind of new majin mark to gain absolute control of Daima Janemba as we see that Babidis majin magic can be resisted if someone is strong willed. Also worth while to mention this is where the new fusion bug would play into effect and piccolo acting as Piccon
Not interesting at all, cause he said that after Goma decided to wish for the oculus aa the second wish Degesu wanted to do the same with the third wish. It doesn't makes sense
@@jaredlopez-alamilla3113 If you think about it, Gomah's wish specifically is to make all of the Z-Fighters and friends into babies, not reducing their age.
Not necessarily. The wish was to turn them into first graders, but it doesn’t give a specific age number. Everyone was turned into the equivalent of a first grader. For some like the humans, that would be 6 years old. For others like Piccolo, he would be younger than three years old, to whatever age he was when he was the equivalent of a human 6 year old. Possibly just a few months.
This is orders of magnitude more interesting and entertaining than any or all of the actual episodes of Daima. That’s good, well done. But also it’s incredibly depressing.
"Wish for the oculus". Except the second wish which Goma wanted to make was already about it and there's no reason for Degesu to repeat the same wish with the 3rd wish
ive been racking my brain about this and i think i might have a decent guess as to what his potential wish could be. he is very ambitious and what is probably THE most powerful entity known in dragonball at the end of Buu saga? THE SUPREME KAI! he wants to steal the seat from his brother and become effectively the god of creation.
Glad you brought up that Gohan should be the strongest at this point because I'm seeing crazy comments online saying that he isn't. Until I see some foreshadowing, I straight up think they wrote him out of the plot just so Goku could go on this adventure.
Same. Though, I've been thinking; since he's of similar age to Dende, who got turned into a baby, perhaps Gohan did too?! He is still a kid in a way (at around 18 years old as of the wish happening). I would prefer that rather than they just reuse the same old "he's studying" excuse. It's just worrying they haven't shown him at all.
theres a year between buu saga and daima. its likely goku was able to surpass gohan in this time, or gohan slacked off enough to become weaker than goku
@@orangejuice4266 Yeah I'm gonna need to see some hard evidence on that one. Even if it was a year, Gohan wasn't shown to be weaken until Resurrection F. Gohan was way stronger than Super buu so I can't help but feel like one year would of been enough for Goku to catch up even if Gohan started slacking.
Goku, or any other main character, will defeat gomah, only to realize neva is the real villain, then a fusion will occur between preferably anyone other than just goku and vegeta again and theyll defeat neva.
@Shinmsl i want Shin and Piccolo to fuse. Imagine the payoff of that. Shins' first ever introduction was as a higher being that piccolo respected/feared. And now, with daima, aka Shins time to shine, him fusing woth piccolo would just make sense. Piccolo introduced the fusion dance to Goten and Trunks, and Shin introduced the potara to Gohan, now with this new form of fusion that goku found, imagine if piccolo and shin are the ones to reign it in together. Idk, i just think that'd be really cool and would fit in line with something toriyama would've written/thought of.
I feel like Nevas the biggest wildcard since he showcased the ability to not only gather the dragonballs, but also remove the cooldown. Maybe his powers rely on lifeforce which is why he gets lifeforce from Gomah in return. Either way, he seems like he'll be a key part in either a villains unrevealed plan or help undo everything at the end.
I believe Dr Arinsu went to Earth before Gomah to collect something or someone. She either went into Babidi's abandoned base to get his crystal ball, or some artifact he had. Or she went to kidnap someone. If she did that, it would have to be someone who wasn't at the party, either Gohan, since he was the strongest during the Buu Saga, or, and I hope this is the right option, Tien for having the evil third eye on his forehead (she would know since he did launch an attack against Buutenks). I could see Arinsu asking him to use the power of the eye, with him incapable of using it, only for her to poke it and activate some crazy ability Tien didn't know he had. Hopefully he loses the eye by the end, and has to replace it with a fake, glass one haha.
idk if you're right about the specifics of whats going to happen, but I think you're onto something with the elements you've pointed out. I think all those things are forshadowing something to do with the genkidama, saiyans age, the oculus, and the namekians.
cheeeeeeeeeeeeers I LOVE THE CONTENT still its such a good binge i cant wait to spend time listening more again ive bene out oppf the content for a while
Statistically speaking, the Daima/Demon World Dragon balls will be used to for some wish related to an aging process: 1) (DB) King Piccolo 2) (DBZ Movie) Lord Slug 3) (DB Super) Pilaf Gang 4) (DB Daima) Goku and his friends + everyone that opposed Buu 5) (DB GT) Goku 6) (DB Super Manga) Moro, technically de-aged from a wish I think 7) (DB Super Movies) It is implied that Bulma has used the Dragon balls to de-age parts of herself.
Mark: The earth’s dragonballs are based on white magic. Perhaps the demon dragonballs are based on something else… Me: Whiter magic 😮 Mark:…black magic. Me: Oh yea yea even better 😮
With this video i noticed that Glorio is problably the demon used as base for Towa to create Mira from Xenoverse. They have the same design and everything. If Towa becomes canon, ill be laughing at the TFS boo bits when Babidi said she was barely canon.
I found it very interesting that is the youngest we've ever seen Goku and Bulma, that's not casual. We are going to see them aged up before this series is done.
What about bringing in the manga original arcs of Super into this prediction? There are several hints that the Moro and Granolah arcs were inspired by the production of Daima, the most obvious of which outright stating that the Namekians came from somewhere outside of the universe without directly stating that it was the demon realm. Other hints include the Heeters looking a lot like Panzy and Glorio's demon race, Moro having several magical abilities that match the concept of demons as described in Daima, one of Moro's abilities being to steal life energy to extend his own life, the Cerelian Dragon Balls being a small set like the ones in the Demon Realm, there being a trio who could fuse together in some ambiguous way mirroring the theory that the bugs may allow tri-fusion, etc, etc. If this is true, then maybe there are hints buried in those arcs as to what will happen in Daima?
Daima is taking heavy inspiration from gt. They even added in a little girl named Panzy to take over for Pan. The first arc has been all adventure just like gt. When we get to the second and 3rd demon worlds I have a feeling it will swap to being more action oriented. We are definitely going to be getting a demon world transformation for goku and vegeta, something they can only do in the demon world so it doesn't conflict with super. Maybe demon or magic powers.
21:00 Mark, I can't believe you spent 20 minutes theory crafting and didn't take that last step in reference to OG Dragonball callbacks. It's the return of Demon King Piccolo (but it's okay, he's a good guy this time.)
I look back at stuff in Super with how people thought the grand priest was evil or how "something terrible" is gonna happen during the TOP and i'm just like.. I wouldn't be surprised if Daima just ends in "oh cool we beat them and made some friends, time to eat!"
100% getting a fusion since it's been set up but my theory is that it's going to be a completely new fusion. We're not doing the fusion dance and we're not using the potara, this should be completely new.
So the only thing im sure you got right was the aging of Goku, the question becomes them, when does it stop... Or what makes it happen... If i have to guess... I think each Demon World would center on an especific stage, if aging will come around at some point, in the beginning we certain be around Goku as a kid, and when he is 15, Goku looked sharper, but not much taller, he did grow, but not a lot, it's when he reached 18 that he makes the big jump... And that's what i think will happen, the 6+9 is so simple but to the point that makes sense that Goku will be age at one point. Probably the 2nd Demon World, but the shock would be when he is just a bit more muscular and taller but not a proper teenager as we picture it. With in the 3rd Demon World, being aged again to reach the point of ending the series with a Goku much closer to the familiar one, maybe on the final battle we get Old Man Goku, maybe not. But the point stands, im sure after what you have pointed out that Aging will be a key component of the story. P.S: Also regarding, Degesu's wish, it isn't the eye, we know this because that's Gomah's second wish, and Degesu wanted the third one still. Yes, it could be to get it from Gomah, but if Gomah was more powerful then Dende, it wouldn't be safe, since Shen-Long wouldn't had been able to get it, and we know they know about the rules because Degesu easily works out how the Earth Dragon Balls work, so it has to be something else.
fuck that, i'd rather them explain gohan's growth at what was it... 11? and future trunks' at 14. the SAME GOD DAMN CHARACTER WITH THE SAME GOD DAMN GENES grew differently?
@@noabsolutelynot3660 so why's the one who's stressed getting the growth spurt sooner? it's just a poorly explained inconsistency, maybe they should have not forgotten goten and trunks are characters.
So far, this is the best written official Dragon Ball content since forever. It's so refreshing, after the train of badly written nonsense that Super was... I just hope they make super non canon and start a new series after Daima :D
0:28 Ive been wondering if and how this would connect to super. If it had to connect to super I’m hoping it connects to MORO and then they reveal the anime is returning I don’t really care about Moro or that arc but like…I’d like to see it happen in the anime
The problem there is that Moro takes place long after Daima in the timeline. Daima takes place not even a year after Buu, with them celebrating Trunks' 9th birthday. By the time Moro comes around, Trunks and Goten are almost 15 and undergoing their growth spurt. They could lead to a continuation of Super after Daima ends, but I doubt Daima would connect to Moro.
@@prestonstanley7736you’re right it would be a stretch. Which is why it would be really cool if they pulled it off. Not something I think will happen but just a cool imagining. We’ll see what gets announced in December hopefully a new super manga arc or a movie 🎉
I'm guessing either (assuming goku fights the third tomagami or goma ) that arinsu will have things planned to goku uses the spirit bomb to fuel whatever thing she made to give herself more control or power.
I like your hypothesis a lot, I will say however that I think the demon realm will actually have a 4th Dragon Ball required. I think that it will be in Neva's stomach. The 4th star dragon ball is important to Goku, so it would be weird to not have it.
And with the seventh episode we have learned that Dr. Arinsu was the one who made the magic collars, which is used to keep other demons in check, and make it easier to tax them.
No one has touched on this, but it feels like the small detail that would make the difference. Gus’s life is not his own in Dima. He has the living energy of the old Kai, who transferred his life force into Goku to bring him back from the dead. This happened when he was on the supreme Kai planet. Perhaps there are special properties that come with that Lifeforce.
A lot of people use the image of vegito but people are being misguided.. gogeta used the fusion dance and looks different than vegito that used the potaras so why are people assuming if they use the bugs it’s going to look like vegito? It makes no sense it will be its own characters
@c-lospompa7376 I think the reason is both Potara and Join Bugs are fusion methods made for demons (Glinds) so there's that connection. Also, having a new fusion introduced only for him to not be possible again would be an odd choice, but only time will tell.
What if the Nameless Namekian posessed the Evil Eye? And when he expelled the evil from within him; this became Demon King Piccolo. It would explain why Nameless Namekian was considered super powerful. And would explain how one soul could somehow inhabit two bodies at the same time.
Knowing toriyama it’s probably not going to be this deep and some of the points are probably gonna be left as plot holes but I love this take either way
I love your theory but I'm gonna go with evil old Namek uses the dragonballs to regain his youth, a redo of Dragon Ball and King Piccolo. But our Piccolo being the hero of the demon realm sounds awesome to me👍
I'm so ready to see this guy that is TOTALLY not Mark, to just miss in all of his predictions as DragonBall Daima cames out with something else out of nowhere XD
I think the one who will steal the wish on the demon balls will be a misguided Glorio. Wishing for something to make the third demon world better off but unintentionally throwing the other two (or all thee) into chaos or danger
Maybe this is looking too forward or hopeful, but I wonder if all the magic stuff will lead or maybe explain something about Moro in the manga, since he was, at least at first said to not necessarily be very powerful in fights but an excellent sorcerer
My personal theory is that the demon balls have the inverse of normal dragon balls' limitations e.g. you can't revive someone more powerful than the creator, etc
@@EndoScorpion Wrong Piccolo. Goku was 15 when he fought _King_ Piccolo, as in, the other Piccolo's father. The first guy. The guy who blew up Shenron and killed Krillin, Master Roshi and Chaotzu.
FINALLY,
PLANNED DRAGON BALL CONTENT WITH FORESHADOWING AND STORY STUFF THAT MAKES SENSE
THANK YOU AKIRA TORIYAMA GOD REST UR SOULS
to be fair og db z and bog and rof did that but it did kinda fall off with super and gt
if i had to rank them tho it would go dbz then og db then daima then super and then gt
9:47 Point of order: the Genkidama was created by King Kai. With the new twist that "Kais are originally demons", doesn't that imply that it's a modification of a demon world technique?
We don't know that Kai's are demons. The glind tribe looks different to the other Kai's and in fact they aren't kai's at all "KAIO shin" is just a title.
I think it just ties back to the light magic and dark magic thing. Maybe the Kais broke away from the demon realm and started a new system opposite to the demon realm.
Nah, "kais" arent a race. Shin just happens to be a Glind, which originates from the Demon Realm.
I don't think a being native to MAKAI is necessarily a "demon". Makai is not exactly the same as hell... Makai seems to be more of a world where native life is like life in the outside world.
We don’t currently know where king Kai is from. Kai’s are not a species, Kai is a station. The supreme Kai and his kind are from the Glind race making them from the demon world, but this is not necessarily the case for king Kai. And assuming that his species IS from the demon realm it’s exceedingly likely he didn’t create the genkidama until after he or his people left the demon realm.
I gotta say so many people are thinking that image was a three way fusion. It’s not. It’s a picture of two people being pulled into one body.
Plus the bug had 2 pieces
plus the vendor literally says that it works by 2 people eating the bug and fusing
Then they did a REALLY s*** job conveying that
@@zzyy1934I mean it's easier to understand how it works when the fucking vendor lady already said it works with two people eating it
@@zzyy1934how? They say It, show It, People are just dumb and blind
Knowing that Akira toriyama made this all I'm going to say is that this is probably going to be the greatest send-off to his franchise ever put together and that he wanted to make something very special before he left us. That's what I believe
6+9 = 15 !?!?! You're a GENIUS!
I love this show so far. And I love that it’s honestly a story about Supreme Kai. We’re getting a lot of cool backstory for him
Appreciate the Burst Limit opening song, Mark!
1:00 "AND THIS TIME IS ON PURPOSE" completely sent me
One thing I expect to happen at some point is one of the guardians is stronger than expected and force Goku and Vegeta to eat the bugs to fuse. Because the bugs are shiny and spherical, I would not be surprised that they are actually a base component of potara earrings, so any that fuse with them will get a potara fusion without the attached jewelry, thus mini Vegeto makes his debut. I just hope that a) he finishes the fight(s) this time and (b) the fusion lasts long enough to see him interact with other members of the cast. Especially bulma since I wonder what her reaction to him would be.
Wouldn’t it be a different type of fusion not vegito because he’s born from the earring and not gogeta because he’s born from the dance. This would be a new type of fusion born by bugs
@@MisterBurrChannel You're right, it would be a different result.
But what I was saying is that if it turns out that the potara are made from the bugs since the glind and likely their earrings also come from the demon world, then the result could potentially be the same as a potara earring fusion.
@raygalaxy2717 Also, it would be a "conclusion" to shin showing to be disgusted by bugs throughout the series, only to find his earrings were bugs all the time
@@raygalaxy2717 no the earrings come from the gods. We learned that in super. Also neither does Degesu or Dr.Arinsu wears them so they don’t come from the demon realm
If you look at the intro, you can tell who will fight the dragon ball guys with piccolo, appearing with the second guy and Vegeta appealing with the last
One of my favorite things about Daima is the wish. It didn't change anyone mentally. Which means Goku does his best to act like an Adult but now that he's a kid again he's basically free to do all the silly stuff he wants to do.
Dragon Ball Daima will end with Goku asking "What's Daima?" and Dabura will emerge from the afterlife and yell "DAIMA BALLS!" and everyone will laugh.
I think it's completely possible that Arinsu is not only fighting for the funding of her experiments, but that the events of Daima are also a part of an experiment.
0:54 "kind of bad guys"
Oh Arinsu is bad alright....
bad news bud.
She ain't got lady parts.
@@bramderacourt9499 A hole is a hole
@@bramderacourt9499 That won't stop us
She's a baddie
@@bramderacourt9499 theres other ways
Before watching this video, my own prediction for Daimas ending was that Glorio works for someone begrudingly who isn't Kadan (which was confirmed a week ago with his phonecall with Arinsu) who would turn out to be the mainvillain.
Gomah and his underlings reminded me too much of the Sandland group for me to be sold that they are bad guys. They are charismatic in a non-villainous kinda way and could easily be protagonists of their own story. Gomah has already been shown to be easily manipulated when his ego is targeted, so I could easily believe that all the bad things done in his name stemmed from Arinsu sowing seeds of selfdoubt, especially since this has already been shown to be the case in Episode 1.
i heard those 2 super kazoo notes whenever mark said super editor, nice touch :P.
You should check out blue dragon next. It's got the Akira toriyama art style and honestly an interesting concept f shadows fighting.
Plus daima is straight up using it's art anyways when you see the animals
Yeah weren’t the shadows sort of like stands. Im going entirely from memory.
@ItsMichaelReid stands don't have their own agency or personalities most of the time. Stands are likes the swords from bleach without being able to talk much as a extension of power.
Wait so this might be the first dragon ball series written with an actual end goal.
Damn Daima might be the first dragon ball series that doesn’t piss me off with its ending. Fingers crossed
gt?
you hated og db ending?
Dbz and dbs did indeed have endings that were doodoo
Wow. You got pissed at GT’s ending that’s universally praised? That’s surprising. Though for me I’m happy with how they all ended personally.
I must say I had negative confirmation bias going into the story, and while the start did feel a bit slow to me, I'm really enjoying this.
Also thanks for the quality content man, I love how deep you go into the story while maintaining quality and quanity!
I've been loving your recent Dragon Ball theories, first the one for Black Frieza, and now the one for Daima, and it's honestly really fun and sounds pretty solid, it's really a great time to be a Dragon Ball fan, rest in peace Akira Toriyama.
i hardly comment but, cmmon. props for the burst limit oppening track. God tier
Wasn't it Gomah's second wish to obtain the Tertian Oculus, back when their impression was that Shenron was going to give them three wishes? That means that the theory that Degesu's wish is also that makes literally no sense, since when he asked to make the third wish, he already knew that Gomah was going to ask for that as his second wish.
well his wish could be to steal it from Goma for himself...
@@Shinmslbro is the brother of the supreme Kai. He did not need a full dragon wish to take the oculus from the midget king.
Dragon Ball Daima got the original dragon ball vibe all over it
It is a very comfy show to watch
1:30 God I wish this was the actual theme song instead
Burst limit always goes hard
10:28 first of all that transition is smooth second this is a very interesting video mark also metioned something ive been thinking about when i saw the first ep and that is degesu. he was giving off a very weird vibe and i immediately thought that he is going to be some twist villain and i would really like for him to be but know toriyama he is definitely going to do something completely different but im still holding out hope that he will be the twist villain of daima
HOLY SHIT MARK I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING!!!
IF YOUR 6 + 9 THEORY IS CORRECT THIS MEANS IN THE FUCKING OPENING TRAILER OF "JAKA JAAN" WHEN THE "THOUSANDS OF SILLY JOKES AND JAB" SHOWS GOKU, THAT'S FUCKING TEENAGER GOKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry for capslock. I am too excited. It makes perfect sense. Because in EP 1 we see adult Goku without power pole. However in the opening intro we clearly see Goku with a power pole + Kintou'n!
This also means we'll see teenager vegeta. Why? Because FUSION BUGS. They probably want some consistency in age/height so they can show us a teenager ('adultish') like fusion for merchandise and so forth.
This is my headcanon:
I believe that Diama is trying to make Fusion Reborn cannon in some way. This will be achieved through what I believe will be a coup led by Arinsu against Goma. Try and follow me here.
Bibidi and Babidi are both basically confirmed to be from the demon realm, babidi not so much because he was a clone but still. Anyways, why did babidi get control of Dabura? I believe that’s why Arinsu kept going to earth. She was most likely working with Babidi to get rid of her brother Shin who was selected as Kai while she was left in the demon realm. I think she then convinced or tricked Dabura into going to earth or led Babidi into the demon realm to overthrow Dabura as unlike Goma, Dabura was an imposing and scary leader.
In the first episode when Goma watched buu get defeated and was freaking out, arinsu was in the background reacting with no emotion, almost as if she knew that Buu was going to fail. This is where Janemba comes to place. In fusion reborn he is created after what looks to be a demon employee acts a catalyst for the soon to be monster when a pump of pure evil blows up next to him. This is similar to how Goku fell into the spirit bomb and took in all of its energy.
What if now instead of evil, Goma ends up next to the collected time tank when it will blow up and he merges into Daima Janemba, who instead of manipulating space can now manipulate time. The Oculus would then activate as some kind of new majin mark to gain absolute control of Daima Janemba as we see that Babidis majin magic can be resisted if someone is strong willed.
Also worth while to mention this is where the new fusion bug would play into effect and piccolo acting as Piccon
Love your ideas here. All in for another Piccolo win
Get ready for a classic toiyama gag like the oculus actually doesnt do anything after being hyped up lol
Would be funny if it was an artifact noone has ever found, but according to Gomah, it was passed down between Demon Kings.
i respect you because unlike laughing stock you don't disable your comments
@@Grulaz weird flex but ok
Laughingstock doesn't cover DBS. He's a fake fan.
@@bluetone-amvif you were a fan of this TH-camr you would know over the years he covered Dbs multiple times. you’re a fake fan.
He literally explained why.
@@clipsdelosmajes exactly!
THIS IS AWESOME MARK! GREAT WORK!!!
Hearing the burst limit op play sent me back, hell yes
The Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit opening playing over the Daima footage hit me in a nostalgic spot there. Damn.
very very interesting take
Not interesting at all, cause he said that after Goma decided to wish for the oculus aa the second wish Degesu wanted to do the same with the third wish. It doesn't makes sense
@ doesn't make it any less interesting mate
Why is it interesting
@@Matt_M_again stop asking me and questioning me dawg it's interesting because it covers a basis of toriyamas perspective
@UnscathedArt I'm not questioning that you find it interesting. It's that interesting is unsubstantiated without context of why.
So Piccolo in Daima is older than himself during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai
another continuity error by toriyama .... and yet people spect daima to have a great well planned plot
@@jaredlopez-alamilla3113 If you think about it, Gomah's wish specifically is to make all of the Z-Fighters and friends into babies, not reducing their age.
@@jaredlopez-alamilla3113 Oh no, one minor continuity error... Who tf cares? Doesn't mean the greater plot isn't well planned
Not necessarily. The wish was to turn them into first graders, but it doesn’t give a specific age number. Everyone was turned into the equivalent of a first grader. For some like the humans, that would be 6 years old. For others like Piccolo, he would be younger than three years old, to whatever age he was when he was the equivalent of a human 6 year old. Possibly just a few months.
I feel like I am watching TH-cam + right now. Insane video Mark
This is orders of magnitude more interesting and entertaining than any or all of the actual episodes of Daima.
That’s good, well done. But also it’s incredibly depressing.
1:31 I was listening to this song before clicking the video lmao
Yooo, a fellow Gachatuber?
@@dragonballgacha yessir
@boreditalianteen we should collab fr fr
"Wish for the oculus". Except the second wish which Goma wanted to make was already about it and there's no reason for Degesu to repeat the same wish with the 3rd wish
well his wish could be to steal it from Goma for himself...
ive been racking my brain about this and i think i might have a decent guess as to what his potential wish could be.
he is very ambitious and what is probably THE most powerful entity known in dragonball at the end of Buu saga?
THE SUPREME KAI!
he wants to steal the seat from his brother and become effectively the god of creation.
Wow that intro with the burst limit music ❤
Love the videos, makes work Saturday a little better.
Glad you brought up that Gohan should be the strongest at this point because I'm seeing crazy comments online saying that he isn't. Until I see some foreshadowing, I straight up think they wrote him out of the plot just so Goku could go on this adventure.
Same.
Though, I've been thinking; since he's of similar age to Dende, who got turned into a baby, perhaps Gohan did too?! He is still a kid in a way (at around 18 years old as of the wish happening). I would prefer that rather than they just reuse the same old "he's studying" excuse. It's just worrying they haven't shown him at all.
theres a year between buu saga and daima. its likely goku was able to surpass gohan in this time, or gohan slacked off enough to become weaker than goku
@@EndoScorpion
That's pretty much my exact thought but it be nice to see some hard visual evidence.
@@orangejuice4266 Yeah I'm gonna need to see some hard evidence on that one. Even if it was a year, Gohan wasn't shown to be weaken until Resurrection F. Gohan was way stronger than Super buu so I can't help but feel like one year would of been enough for Goku to catch up even if Gohan started slacking.
@@DSpiritwolf i mean i agree it dont make sense but daima has been framing everything as if gokus the strongest rn anyway
1:30 oh my god that song brings so much memories from playing dragon ball z burst limit 😢 truly one of the best dragon ball tracks ever
Lets hope for some super sayian 4 homage
Goku, or any other main character, will defeat gomah, only to realize neva is the real villain, then a fusion will occur between preferably anyone other than just goku and vegeta again and theyll defeat neva.
Gokulo is coming XD
@Shinmsl
i want Shin and Piccolo to fuse.
Imagine the payoff of that. Shins' first ever introduction was as a higher being that piccolo respected/feared. And now, with daima, aka Shins time to shine, him fusing woth piccolo would just make sense. Piccolo introduced the fusion dance to Goten and Trunks, and Shin introduced the potara to Gohan, now with this new form of fusion that goku found, imagine if piccolo and shin are the ones to reign it in together.
Idk, i just think that'd be really cool and would fit in line with something toriyama would've written/thought of.
I feel like Nevas the biggest wildcard since he showcased the ability to not only gather the dragonballs, but also remove the cooldown. Maybe his powers rely on lifeforce which is why he gets lifeforce from Gomah in return. Either way, he seems like he'll be a key part in either a villains unrevealed plan or help undo everything at the end.
I believe Dr Arinsu went to Earth before Gomah to collect something or someone. She either went into Babidi's abandoned base to get his crystal ball, or some artifact he had. Or she went to kidnap someone. If she did that, it would have to be someone who wasn't at the party, either Gohan, since he was the strongest during the Buu Saga, or, and I hope this is the right option, Tien for having the evil third eye on his forehead (she would know since he did launch an attack against Buutenks). I could see Arinsu asking him to use the power of the eye, with him incapable of using it, only for her to poke it and activate some crazy ability Tien didn't know he had. Hopefully he loses the eye by the end, and has to replace it with a fake, glass one haha.
idk if you're right about the specifics of whats going to happen, but I think you're onto something with the elements you've pointed out. I think all those things are forshadowing something to do with the genkidama, saiyans age, the oculus, and the namekians.
cheeeeeeeeeeeeers I LOVE THE CONTENT still its such a good binge i cant wait to spend time listening more again ive bene out oppf the content for a while
Wow nice theory. I'm excited to see the ending of Daima.
Statistically speaking, the Daima/Demon World Dragon balls will be used to for some wish related to an aging process:
1) (DB) King Piccolo
2) (DBZ Movie) Lord Slug
3) (DB Super) Pilaf Gang
4) (DB Daima) Goku and his friends + everyone that opposed Buu
5) (DB GT) Goku
6) (DB Super Manga) Moro, technically de-aged from a wish I think
7) (DB Super Movies) It is implied that Bulma has used the Dragon balls to de-age parts of herself.
Mark: The earth’s dragonballs are based on white magic. Perhaps the demon dragonballs are based on something else…
Me: Whiter magic 😮
Mark:…black magic.
Me: Oh yea yea even better 😮
DUDE seeing Goku go through all ages again + some time as old man goku would be so dope! Imagine young Roshi and old Goku teaming up!
With this video i noticed that Glorio is problably the demon used as base for Towa to create Mira from Xenoverse. They have the same design and everything.
If Towa becomes canon, ill be laughing at the TFS boo bits when Babidi said she was barely canon.
Great vid
I found it very interesting that is the youngest we've ever seen Goku and Bulma, that's not casual. We are going to see them aged up before this series is done.
What about bringing in the manga original arcs of Super into this prediction? There are several hints that the Moro and Granolah arcs were inspired by the production of Daima, the most obvious of which outright stating that the Namekians came from somewhere outside of the universe without directly stating that it was the demon realm.
Other hints include the Heeters looking a lot like Panzy and Glorio's demon race, Moro having several magical abilities that match the concept of demons as described in Daima, one of Moro's abilities being to steal life energy to extend his own life, the Cerelian Dragon Balls being a small set like the ones in the Demon Realm, there being a trio who could fuse together in some ambiguous way mirroring the theory that the bugs may allow tri-fusion, etc, etc.
If this is true, then maybe there are hints buried in those arcs as to what will happen in Daima?
I am so happy when i watch EACH episode of Daima! 😭😭😭
Daima is taking heavy inspiration from gt. They even added in a little girl named Panzy to take over for Pan. The first arc has been all adventure just like gt. When we get to the second and 3rd demon worlds I have a feeling it will swap to being more action oriented. We are definitely going to be getting a demon world transformation for goku and vegeta, something they can only do in the demon world so it doesn't conflict with super. Maybe demon or magic powers.
21:00 Mark, I can't believe you spent 20 minutes theory crafting and didn't take that last step in reference to OG Dragonball callbacks. It's the return of Demon King Piccolo (but it's okay, he's a good guy this time.)
I look back at stuff in Super with how people thought the grand priest was evil or how "something terrible" is gonna happen during the TOP and i'm just like..
I wouldn't be surprised if Daima just ends in "oh cool we beat them and made some friends, time to eat!"
100% getting a fusion since it's been set up but my theory is that it's going to be a completely new fusion. We're not doing the fusion dance and we're not using the potara, this should be completely new.
Honestly the fact that it feels like it might have an actual end has me pretty excited.
It's so refreshing as a fan for 3 decades.
So the only thing im sure you got right was the aging of Goku, the question becomes them, when does it stop... Or what makes it happen... If i have to guess... I think each Demon World would center on an especific stage, if aging will come around at some point, in the beginning we certain be around Goku as a kid, and when he is 15, Goku looked sharper, but not much taller, he did grow, but not a lot, it's when he reached 18 that he makes the big jump... And that's what i think will happen, the 6+9 is so simple but to the point that makes sense that Goku will be age at one point. Probably the 2nd Demon World, but the shock would be when he is just a bit more muscular and taller but not a proper teenager as we picture it. With in the 3rd Demon World, being aged again to reach the point of ending the series with a Goku much closer to the familiar one, maybe on the final battle we get Old Man Goku, maybe not. But the point stands, im sure after what you have pointed out that Aging will be a key component of the story.
P.S: Also regarding, Degesu's wish, it isn't the eye, we know this because that's Gomah's second wish, and Degesu wanted the third one still. Yes, it could be to get it from Gomah, but if Gomah was more powerful then Dende, it wouldn't be safe, since Shen-Long wouldn't had been able to get it, and we know they know about the rules because Degesu easily works out how the Earth Dragon Balls work, so it has to be something else.
I love these Dragon Ball Daima moments!
19:50 Bruh Dende looks so adorable in this shot
Are they gonna explain the lack of growth in super because they didn’t age back to there original age in the end?
Probably
fuck that, i'd rather them explain gohan's growth at what was it... 11? and future trunks' at 14. the SAME GOD DAMN CHARACTER WITH THE SAME GOD DAMN GENES grew differently?
Different environmental stressors. It's well studied IRL. @@DorkSoulss
@@DorkSoulsswho cares dude
@@noabsolutelynot3660 so why's the one who's stressed getting the growth spurt sooner?
it's just a poorly explained inconsistency, maybe they should have not forgotten goten and trunks are characters.
So far, this is the best written official Dragon Ball content since forever.
It's so refreshing, after the train of badly written nonsense that Super was... I just hope they make super non canon and start a new series after Daima :D
That's an incredible drawing of Vegito!!!!!
0:28 Ive been wondering if and how this would connect to super. If it had to connect to super I’m hoping it connects to MORO and then they reveal the anime is returning
I don’t really care about Moro or that arc but like…I’d like to see it happen in the anime
The problem there is that Moro takes place long after Daima in the timeline. Daima takes place not even a year after Buu, with them celebrating Trunks' 9th birthday. By the time Moro comes around, Trunks and Goten are almost 15 and undergoing their growth spurt. They could lead to a continuation of Super after Daima ends, but I doubt Daima would connect to Moro.
@@prestonstanley7736you’re right it would be a stretch. Which is why it would be really cool if they pulled it off.
Not something I think will happen but just a cool imagining. We’ll see what gets announced in December hopefully a new super manga arc or a movie 🎉
This show already has more heart and soul than all of Super combined. Loving it so far
Day 256 of asking Mark to review Scott Pilgrim
Now that's a good fucking idea
YEAH HE SHOULD
Oh shi….you’re onto something here
Day 1 of Asking Mark to review Gintama.
He's expressed interest in it but I don't see it being his cup of tea
I'm guessing either (assuming goku fights the third tomagami or goma ) that arinsu will have things planned to goku uses the spirit bomb to fuel whatever thing she made to give herself more control or power.
I like your hypothesis a lot, I will say however that I think the demon realm will actually have a 4th Dragon Ball required. I think that it will be in Neva's stomach. The 4th star dragon ball is important to Goku, so it would be weird to not have it.
It would have been funny if piccolo didn’t get any smaller because he was like 7 feet at 3 years old.
I seriously wish this happened.
And with the seventh episode we have learned that Dr. Arinsu was the one who made the magic collars, which is used to keep other demons in check, and make it easier to tax them.
Daima is the first dragonball series that has been planned out. It will be the most pure form of what DB is
No one has touched on this, but it feels like the small detail that would make the difference. Gus’s life is not his own in Dima. He has the living energy of the old Kai, who transferred his life force into Goku to bring him back from the dead. This happened when he was on the supreme Kai planet. Perhaps there are special properties that come with that Lifeforce.
is that vegito with no earring💀
Yes, it's the fusion from the fusion bug.
You failed the literacy check
A lot of people use the image of vegito but people are being misguided.. gogeta used the fusion dance and looks different than vegito that used the potaras so why are people assuming if they use the bugs it’s going to look like vegito? It makes no sense it will be its own characters
@c-lospompa7376 I think the reason is both Potara and Join Bugs are fusion methods made for demons (Glinds) so there's that connection. Also, having a new fusion introduced only for him to not be possible again would be an odd choice, but only time will tell.
What if the Nameless Namekian posessed the Evil Eye? And when he expelled the evil from within him; this became Demon King Piccolo.
It would explain why Nameless Namekian was considered super powerful. And would explain how one soul could somehow inhabit two bodies at the same time.
Knowing toriyama it’s probably not going to be this deep and some of the points are probably gonna be left as plot holes but I love this take either way
The only thing I am sure is that is the definitely the third eye thingy in the opening , I just realized it in the viewing the last episode's intro :P
5:10 mark with the galaxy brain
Ohhhh, 8:37 the Chibi Boo smooth brains are about to be awakened from their slumber
That age thing is kinda...🤔 interesting. I didn't even think about it helping goku to 'grow up' but that would be sick
I love your theory but I'm gonna go with evil old Namek uses the dragonballs to regain his youth, a redo of Dragon Ball and King Piccolo. But our Piccolo being the hero of the demon realm sounds awesome to me👍
I just hope Piccolo gets a lot more love, more to do, and at least one big win. Doesn't need to beat the final boss (though it would be nice).
I'm so ready to see this guy that is TOTALLY not Mark, to just miss in all of his predictions as DragonBall Daima cames out with something else out of nowhere XD
I think the one who will steal the wish on the demon balls will be a misguided Glorio.
Wishing for something to make the third demon world better off but unintentionally throwing the other two (or all thee) into chaos or danger
I legitimately think that it's not possible to predict where Toriyama will go with a story. Guy just works on a different level.
Magic Karp got me cackling that was pretty funny lol
Maybe this is looking too forward or hopeful, but I wonder if all the magic stuff will lead or maybe explain something about Moro in the manga, since he was, at least at first said to not necessarily be very powerful in fights but an excellent sorcerer
i want to make a long call
if there is a dark twist to the demon world balls it’s going to be that the previous wish becomes undone
But that’s just a theory… A GAME Theory !!!
Tamagami trio going to fuse into one and we might have a brand new fusion between Goku and someone else
Quite awesome!
All i'll say:
I hope your right about Piccolo. I really, really, really, REAAAAAALLLYYYY hope your right about Piccolo.
My personal theory is that the demon balls have the inverse of normal dragon balls' limitations e.g. you can't revive someone more powerful than the creator, etc
Abura?
Can't wait to see Kadabra and Alakazam. Funny names are fun.
4:07 It's funny that they chose that specific number, as that's how old Goku was when he fought King Piccolo.
He's gonna fight neva
Yet Piccolo was only 3 and was already fully grown.
@@EndoScorpion Wrong Piccolo. Goku was 15 when he fought _King_ Piccolo, as in, the other Piccolo's father. The first guy. The guy who blew up Shenron and killed Krillin, Master Roshi and Chaotzu.