Clip timestamps for spoiler reasons or what have you: 0:00 Fletch Lives 0:08 Torchwood s2e1 "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" 0:35 Chuck s3e4 0:51 Firefly Pilot Movie 1:32 Sexy Beast 2:00 Star Wars: The Clone Wars: "Escape from Kadavo" 2:22 Farscape s04e18 3:07 Venture bros s4e1 3:36 Family guy s6e5 4:06 The Old Guard 4:32 Star Wars: The Clone Wars:"Voyage of Temptation" s2e13 5:00 Captain America: The Winter Soldier 5:24 Aladdin: The Series, ep "The Citadel” 5:49 Star Wars: The Clone Wars:"Carnage of Krell" s4e10 6:15 Arrow s1e11 6:33 The New Avengers: At the end of "Obsession" s2e5 6:59 The Expanse s3e6 "Immolation"
@@0megacron absolutely true and could possibly the primary motivating factor. However it remains true that while Mal is a good guy you can only push him so far
Amos Burton was the perfect character, flawed in many senses, yet loyal and dedicated to a cause, following the principles and instincts of a morally "better man", because for good reasons he couldn't trust himself in that regard. His character showed that being a follower doesn't mean you're less than, it just depends who you choose to follow...
@@jaylinnell5251 I'll forever be baffled by how that phrase even became a meme... It's like them telling you they've never even seen the show, without actually telling you. There's more adult themed philosophy and violence in there than most live action blockbusters today. We have to gatekeep cartoons/anime from changing into that kind of safe abomination...
"What? He was gonna blow up the ship." I love that line. Anakin just casually cuts through all the philosophical bullshit to solve the immediate problem.
The "You're not that guy" scene is one of the best implementations of this movie trope I've ever seen. I also really appreciate the dramatic entrance version from Firefly. It's usually an off-screen thing where you didn't even know the person was there, but those two in particular pulled it off in compelling and entertaining ways. A little nonchalant chat afterwards like in the Winter Soldier or Anakin example is always a nice touch.
1st time builds tension for the scene. 2nd time it’s oh they did it, again. Third time it’s just you deciding which person will kill that guy. There’s no tension in the scene just a wish it was over already as it’s getting boring.
@@jpbaley2016 tbf it's just those three scenes in a total of 7 seasons of prolific warcrime after warcrime. You could make an hour long video of just warcrimes alone from the entirety of clone wars.
@@jpbaley2016 The second and third times were for character development, I think. The most dogmatic clone in that like 4-episode arc who always insisted on following Krell's orders the whole time was the one that ultimately killed Krell. It's kind of sad because the soldier truly believed in what they were doing, but he was finally broken. And the other one is more setup for Anakin becoming Vader.
is he really in cold blood, holding a detonator with the intention of killing (at most) dozens of people, not 10 seconds in show time killing three other people? i think like season 7 when trench was electrocuting anakin, he was armed, just in a different way than what is traditionally viewed as armed
From the comics, the movies, the streaming products, and the books, I can say with surety that the 'Jedi Way' often leaves not only the Jedi dead, but it leaves the bad actor to go out and kill more innocent people. It's really not a laudable aspect of the Jedi philosophy.
Miller was also known to be 'that guy' on occasion. Like when they captured the head scientist in season 2. Everyone else was almost swayed by all his talk about the Protomolecle and the destiny of mankind - then Miller just blows him away, holsters his gun, and walks out the room.
To be fair, Malcolm also kicked a bad actor into Serenity's engine. He knows that sometimes somebody needs killing and he accepts that he may be the hand that does it. He may not like it, but he won't shy for it if it is for something he values.
@@johns1625 that was a show that you watch one or two episodes at a time and let your brain sort through everything you saw. Definitely a good show to take your time with.
I love how, after kicking a guy off the roof, Steve and Natasha go straight into love life talk like it's just another Wednesday, which it kinda is for them
Right before she kicks Stillwell, she's looking off in the distance, like she's making a grocery list or something, then after she kicks him, it's NBD. One of my favorite scenes.
After the first clip I was like, “if they don’t have the clip from the clone wars with anakin, obi wan, and Satine, I’m gonna be real upset.” I gave you a like as soon as I saw it in there. Bonus points for javelin Rex.
It actually doesn't count because of the reasoning. All the scenes in this vid shows the person cannot shoot because they can't psycologically, they don't want to. Thor can't kill Hela because he physically can't. He tried over and over to kill her but is only getting stronger. He unleashes Surtr because he absolutely can kill Hela.
These clips show people who don't have the hardness of heart to kill. Demolition Man's Simon Phoenix (Wesley Snipes) was programmed to not kill that one man (he had no trouble killing scores of other people).
@@persiswynter6357 that’s not true as multiple characters shown kill others in their movies and shows…it’s that they won’t kill an unarmed or surrendered person that’s the issue. case in point: Captain Rex, who kills an unarmed person who was a threat to them and taunting Obi-Wan Kenobi but couldn’t kill an unarmed and restrained Jedi who was no longer a threat…
It was a great moment for the character development of Mal, too, because it showed how little patience he had for bullies and blackmailers. I know we only got a single season of it but that character and Fillion's portrayal of him really did add something new to the genre as a whole. Yeah, there's more than a little of Han Solo in there (especially in this scene) but there's also a kind of intense efficiency to him that Solo doesn't have.
It was so much more than the typical version. Amos knows that Prax can't take that kind of pressure. He relieves him of that burden because Amos has killed hundreds of people, one more isn't a big deal to him but it would be devastating to Prax. Amos is emotionally more intelligent than he's usually given credit for.
I don’t think that Prax couldn’t have. I think he was more than willing to do what he saw was absolutely necessary. Amos just stepped up to protect Prax from having to live the rest of his life as a killer. Knowing what that sacrifice really means.
@@darkleome5409 "inspired by it", it depends what do tou mean with it there are other sci-fi franchises that embrace a more modern concept of sci-fi and not that weird and kinda fantasy sci-fi like star wars.
@@theillusiveman2139 Yeah, but how many of them are actually good? The only thing that's come close to The Expanse for me is Dune, and they're very different.
Scorpy gets bonus points for not just doing the killing, but physically using John's own hand to do it, and doing it to kill a hybrid of John's greatest love and surrogate little sister. What's black and white and utterly ruthless?
I wish NCIS was on this list. Specifically the scene where Dinozzo is being interrogated and says "Remember when I told you my boss was a sniper?" then the bad guy gets sniped.
You missed the most explicit example of this. In the movie Sneakers (1992) Ben Kingsley has Robert Redford at gunpoint and says "I can't kill my friend", then he turns to his henchman and says, "Kill my friend."
Firefly was a brilliant show in the sense that it called out a lot of those 'good guy' tropes and kinda chucked them out the window. 'Good guy Mal' didn't really shoot the dude because River was being held hostage OR because Simon couldn't - he did it because he wasn't having a very goo day at that point and didn't reeeaaalllly want to stick around much longer. My other favorite scene with him during the show's run was him fighting that big brute after being tortured and Zoey holds everyone else back and says "No, the captain's gotta do this himself." and you hear Mal off screen scream "No I Don't!" and then they're like "oh shit" and help him by shooting the brute he's fighting. Some people think that firefly is only so well loved cuz there was only one season and if there was more it would've been ruined. and maybe. Joss Whedon has a tendenancy to do that - but I honestly feel like we were still robbed. And I highly doubt any ensemble could really pull off a reboot of it as well.
Unfortunately we have specifics on some of the shit that Whedon had planned for Firefly. For instance, the planned arc for Inara was that she would be revealed to have a fatal super STD (which was what the injection needle in the pilot was for, to stave it off) and she was going to let herself be gang raped by Reavers to spread it to them and kill them to save the crew. As she's dying Mal finally admits he loves her. It was the most bullshit misogynistic asinine stupidity and the show's cancellation saved us from that.
I think we probably could have had another good season, but based on the articles I've read and stories at various cons over the years, I'm glad it ended where it did, when I still love (more or less) all the episodes. And I totally agree about a reboot, nothing shiny about that idea.
"I know a Jedi won't kill an unarmed man." The fact that he got Obi-Wan to seriously contemplate it for a second, and then implicitly ordering Rex to do it himself, speaks volumes to how loathsome Keeper Agruss was.
@@bostonrailfan2427 That's a bit different because Krell was technically his commanding officer at the time, whereas the dude in the chair was just a dude in a chair.
@@awareqwx Especially since in Agruss's case one of his best non-clone friends (Obi-Wan) ordered him directly to kill him, rather than it being a decision solely based on Rex.
This is why every team needs at least one psycho that ruthlessly deals with villains as they deserve. The hero's hands stay clean, the bad guy is dealt with, and the psycho gets to satisfy their urge to kill. It's a win-win-win.
I understand the idea behind it, morality and all that but doesn't it seem like a hero who can't handle the job is a shit protagonist? The ability to do what is objectively necessary seems more relevant than just doing what is subjectively right, and the ruthless sidekick is a cheap copout to tie up the loose ends.
@@jslloyd3581 Or that one scene from Men in Black 2 where K was telling this alien broad to stop what she was doing before something bad happens to her and she was like “Oh? And what are you gonna do?” then K retorts with “Not me. Him.” He was referring to J then said agent blasted the she baddie.
Folks who have not watched The Expanse have no idea why that clip easily trumps the rest of them and is so much more powerful because of what leads up to it! The weight of that scene for that show is insane compared to it happening in the other shows.
That was my favorite part of the firefly. Oh dear god that was a Larry us. The brother didn’t know what to do but the captain was like now what do with this guy bang he had no hesitation not gonna lie. I cracked up so much me and my family busted out laughing at that secne.😂 1:25
Knowing family guy Peter saying “it’s just been revoked” doesn’t call back to anything that’s happened in the show before and is just a non-sensical quote for no reason
total recall...think it was in reference to sharon stone's 'honey you can't shoot me, were married.' as she grabs a gun and he puts one between her eyes. he says that same exact phrase.
Maybe this has been answered , but I believe it’s a reference to Lethal Weapon 2 , the South African baddy kept saying “Diplomatic immunity “. He’s trying to Kill Riggs when Murtaugh gets the drop on him. The bad guy says, “Diplomatic Immunity…” and Murtaugh shoots him, and says, “has just been revoked”.
2:18 it is at this moment you realise how strong a pissed off clone is cause he threw the spear THROUGH a person (and a rather large person at that) and a chair that was at least 6-8 inches thick.
One "Yes I can" moment I can recall- Magnum P.I. with the bad guy, Ivan, had been causing serious trouble for Magnum for a long time, and even blew up the Ferrari with Magnum's best friend in it. Big showdown in the jungle, Ivan practically convinces Magnum that he is unable to shoot him. Long pause, then Magnum quotes his friend's favorite thing, "Hey Ivan... Did you see the sunrise this morning?" Scene ends right at the moment the gun goes off! EPIC!!
The difference with the expanse was that Prax would have done it, this changing him forever. Amos stops him, saving him in the process, because "he is that guy..."
I was wondering if you were going to include Amos. Glad to see you ended with the greatest one of these clips ever. Amos really became the hero of that show at that point.
Got to love the entrances that Cpt Jack Harkness makes in Doctor Who and that Captain Malcolm 'Mal' Reynolds makes in Firefly. Only Captain that might be better at it would be Captain Jack Sparrow.
When Robocop can't kill a corporate officer so the CEO fires him springs to mind. Not strictly canon, but in Above The Law one guy from the firing squad says "You can't get all of us" so Seagall drops him and says "Maybe not, but I'll get an A for effort". I also think of the Lord of The Rings, where the woman kills the Shadow Rider that says that it can be killed by no "man".
Yeah, the Witch King boasting that 'no man can kill me' when he's fighting a hobbit and a woman is the pinnacle of hearing what you want to hear in a prophecy.
@@rikk319 I'd say that one is less clear. And 'literal angel' is a bit of a stretch, even if Maiar fill a very similar role. I don't think anyone would say Gandalf isn't 'a man'. Although again, with prophecy...after it comes true, hindsight is 20/20, and any number of things, from the 'race of Man', to 'a male capable of siring offspring', to 'a blooded warrior who has stolen a horse', etc., can all start to enter play. Certainly if Gandalf had killed the Witch King, we'd all be pointing to the fact he's one of the Istari.
@@willchurch8376 Fun fact: Tolkien created this plot twist because in The Scottish Play, it's stated "no man born of woman" can kill M*cBeth, and Tolkien was expecting the plot twist of him being killed by a woman. That didn't happen, so he was like, "Fine, I'll do it myself!"
The Expanse had worked an entire season toward developing a character who dearly "needed killin'," a gentle character who had the right to kill the man who "needed killin'," and a character who would save his "best friend in the whole world" from staining his soul. Every person in the audience anticipated "I am that guy," and every person in the audience cheered. Damn, that scene was well orchestrated.
Doesn't fit the theme. Here people can't bring themselves to pull the trigger and somebody else does it for them. In Demoliton Man Cocteau had placed a mental block on Simon Pheonix to prevent Pheonix from harming him. Cocteau didn't think that Pheonix would simply order one of the other unfrosted, not similarly programmed criminals to do the deed.
Romanoff is just so swift there was no time for any reaction. You can tell she'd been itching to kick him of the roof as soon as they got up there. lol
These were all very good, but the one that is the absolute best is at the end of the The Highlander series episode "Chivalry". Duncan MacCleod, who is Connor MacCleod's cousin from the movies, has a 350 year old flame named Kristin. Their relationship soured and he left her. For hundreds of years she would then travel the world, looking for him, and making his life miserable by killing those he loved when she found him. The problem is that Duncan was born during the age of chivalry, so couldn't kill her himself. Enter Methos, his 5,000 year old friend and one of the oldest immortals. Methos tells Duncan that he must take her down or be haunted by her for eternity. At the end of the episode, Duncan and Kristin fight, and he disarms her, but can't bring himself to rid the world of her once and for all. You then hear Methos say "Pick up your sword". Kristin asks "Who the hell are you?!" and Methos says, very coldly, "I am a man born long before the age of chivalry. Now pick up your sword." You can hear Methos kill Kristin as Duncan walks away.
Not only is it objectively a high quality show in terms of characters, writing, set design, etc, it also managed to not only use realistic space travel, but make it look COOL.
@@dmgroberts5471 For real, every time they did maneuvers(or really any space stuff) in that show I was just like "0.0 so... cool....O.O". The art is in the details.
@@ThaBeatConductor I particularly love the fight between the Roci and the Stealth Ship in season two. Like you said, any time a ship maneuvers is awesome, the way they just acrobatically rotate around with the thrusters. Badass.
I had a really good one of these while playing Star Wars: The Old Republic. I was playing a dark side alliance gunslinger, and my guildmates were mostly lightside. We were doing a dungeon where the final baddie was a real dbag. When the conversation option to let him go came up, all my guildies recused themself, knowing I would take the shot. For those that don't know, in that game during conversations, there was a dice roll to decide whose answer would affect the scene, and my guildies recusing made sure my answer would be the one that displayed. edit: I don't watch Farscape, but, owing to our names being the same, I'm really glad Scorpius was the one to take the shot in that scene.
"She could've killed me." "No, she couldn't. Never. And sooner or later, Glory will reemerge and make Buffy pay for that mercy. And the world with her. Buffy even knows that, and still she couldn't take human life. She's a hero, you see. She's not like us." "Us?"
Clip timestamps for spoiler reasons or what have you:
0:00 Fletch Lives
0:08 Torchwood s2e1 "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang"
0:35 Chuck s3e4
0:51 Firefly Pilot Movie
1:32 Sexy Beast
2:00 Star Wars: The Clone Wars: "Escape from Kadavo"
2:22 Farscape s04e18
3:07 Venture bros s4e1
3:36 Family guy s6e5
4:06 The Old Guard
4:32 Star Wars: The Clone Wars:"Voyage of Temptation" s2e13
5:00 Captain America: The Winter Soldier
5:24 Aladdin: The Series, ep "The Citadel”
5:49 Star Wars: The Clone Wars:"Carnage of Krell" s4e10
6:15 Arrow s1e11
6:33 The New Avengers: At the end of "Obsession" s2e5
6:59 The Expanse s3e6 "Immolation"
The Expanse is by far the best one.
So sad Demolition Man didn't make the list, it's the most iconic version of this trope that I know.
You forgot Westley Snipes in Demolition Man
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"Did you see the sunrise?"
Love the slow build up in Firefly to the immediate shot, just like he was going to the grocery store
Mal was 110% done by that point and had absolutely no use for anymore BS not after what Patience tried to pull.
Also note it was face to face and he was armed.
Shame it's missing the part right after where they casually toss the guy out the back as they're taking off.
@@Shadowstrom True, he was having a bad day. But also, they were rushing to get off the planet ahead of the Reavers so every second counted.
@@0megacron absolutely true and could possibly the primary motivating factor. However it remains true that while Mal is a good guy you can only push him so far
"You're not that guy."
"I'm that guy."
Best ever.
Amos was a BAMF.
A much better scene than the way the book went.
his Baltimore was showing lol
How did Amos put it: "I am for killing whoever needs killing."
Strickland definetly needed killing
Amos Burton was the perfect character, flawed in many senses, yet loyal and dedicated to a cause, following the principles and instincts of a morally "better man", because for good reasons he couldn't trust himself in that regard. His character showed that being a follower doesn't mean you're less than, it just depends who you choose to follow...
Clone Wars casually doing it like 3 times
It'S a KiDs ShOw!
(Order) 66 likes, impressive
They have quite the war crime count in that series.
Its all done fairly well tbh
@@jaylinnell5251 I'll forever be baffled by how that phrase even became a meme... It's like them telling you they've never even seen the show, without actually telling you. There's more adult themed philosophy and violence in there than most live action blockbusters today. We have to gatekeep cartoons/anime from changing into that kind of safe abomination...
"What? He was gonna blow up the ship."
I love that line. Anakin just casually cuts through all the philosophical bullshit to solve the immediate problem.
But his inability to comprehend the philosophical bullshit is a factor in him falling to the Dark Side
My favourite part of the scene is when you can hear Vader's theme for just a moment after the kill, enough to recognise it if you pay attention.
I mean, he was right in this particular case.
Anakin blatantly disobeyed the rules of the Jedi. While he did what he pretty much had to, his disregard for the rules was a big factor in his fall
And yes. He disregarded the rules because they were stupid but that caused him to disregard the rules
1:26 The "I don't have time for this" shot.
And your monologuing was getting on our nerves.
I had the exact thought bro just popped him
Change that last o to an i and the sentence still works just as well. Because he totally had that look on his face.
@@RookMeAmadeus very true
*Mal:* "I. Have had. A day, and I am *through* with putting up with people's crap."
The "You're not that guy" scene is one of the best implementations of this movie trope I've ever seen. I also really appreciate the dramatic entrance version from Firefly. It's usually an off-screen thing where you didn't even know the person was there, but those two in particular pulled it off in compelling and entertaining ways. A little nonchalant chat afterwards like in the Winter Soldier or Anakin example is always a nice touch.
I was going to comment the same thing so yeah
Two amazing shows right there.
“I am that guy” - The Expanse. Brilliant!
I love the fact that The Clone Wars is full of that stuff
what? he was going to blow up the ship
1st time builds tension for the scene. 2nd time it’s oh they did it, again. Third time it’s just you deciding which person will kill that guy. There’s no tension in the scene just a wish it was over already as it’s getting boring.
Obi-Wan letting Rex kill the Zygerian was pretty uncharacteristic of him tho. Especially since he's one of the more strict Jedi in the order.
@@jpbaley2016 tbf it's just those three scenes in a total of 7 seasons of prolific warcrime after warcrime. You could make an hour long video of just warcrimes alone from the entirety of clone wars.
@@jpbaley2016 The second and third times were for character development, I think. The most dogmatic clone in that like 4-episode arc who always insisted on following Krell's orders the whole time was the one that ultimately killed Krell. It's kind of sad because the soldier truly believed in what they were doing, but he was finally broken. And the other one is more setup for Anakin becoming Vader.
Gotta love Ani, "What? He was gonna blow up the ship", technically not the Jedi way, but he had a really good point.
who going to fly the plane?
@@raven4k998"The best star pilot in the galaxy ✨"
And the scene works both ways. It also flatly states whoever kills him will be marked as a stone cold killer.
is he really in cold blood, holding a detonator with the intention of killing (at most) dozens of people, not 10 seconds in show time killing three other people? i think like season 7 when trench was electrocuting anakin, he was armed, just in a different way than what is traditionally viewed as armed
From the comics, the movies, the streaming products, and the books, I can say with surety that the 'Jedi Way' often leaves not only the Jedi dead, but it leaves the bad actor to go out and kill more innocent people. It's really not a laudable aspect of the Jedi philosophy.
*"I am that guy"*
Thank you for including that
That's one of the best scenes in the Expanse. Next to all the other scenes with Amos, and the last scene with real Miller.
@@mesozoicera87 too true
I never get tired of Amos being ‘that guy’.
Too right mate
Amos and his whole story arc... One of the best characters in TV, period.
Miller was also known to be 'that guy' on occasion. Like when they captured the head scientist in season 2. Everyone else was almost swayed by all his talk about the Protomolecle and the destiny of mankind - then Miller just blows him away, holsters his gun, and walks out the room.
@@dmgroberts5471 Yes, I agree, that was defo a ‘that guy’ moment. That scientist had talked Fred around, even Holden was buying his BS, when ‘Blammo!’
@@madcapmagician3130 I love the look he gives them before he leaves too. "Err, Eros, remember that?"
Everybody else: Acts like it's a big deal
Mal: Doesn't even break stride.
It’s just another problem that he doesn’t need today that he can solve right now
Reminds me of one of Mal's best lines, "I start fighting a war, I guarantee you'll see something new!"
To be fair, Malcolm also kicked a bad actor into Serenity's engine. He knows that sometimes somebody needs killing and he accepts that he may be the hand that does it. He may not like it, but he won't shy for it if it is for something he values.
Well for Mal that cop had shot Kaylee so was dangerous to crew so he ended the situation as quickly as possible.
Any compilation that includes both Firefly and The Expanse is a good compiliation.
And Farscape and Torchwood. Takes it from good to excellent
@@CortexNewsServiceI know, right?
"I am that guy."
That was the coldest version of this trope here. Possibly the best too.
The scene with Amos was one of the most satisfying scenes in that show. Next to all the other scenes with Amos.
Amos:bNo, what I mean was...what was really wearing?!
*referring to UN Secretary General Chrisjen Avasarala after Holden met her*
@@jaykim8851
AV: "I am a member of Parliament, not your callgirl"
Amos: "You can be both."
@@NardoVogt It's "Don't call me that, I'm a member of parliament, not your favourite stripper." :P
I binge watched that entire show in like 3 days and don't remember hardly anything that happened. Forgot all about that scene
@@johns1625 that was a show that you watch one or two episodes at a time and let your brain sort through everything you saw. Definitely a good show to take your time with.
I love how, after kicking a guy off the roof, Steve and Natasha go straight into love life talk like it's just another Wednesday, which it kinda is for them
Right before she kicks Stillwell, she's looking off in the distance, like she's making a grocery list or something, then after she kicks him, it's NBD. One of my favorite scenes.
Also the joking actually kinda fits cause falcon saves him anyway
If you're M. Bison, it's Tuesday, but I digress...
@@jimapplebee5322 she's actually checking Falcon is in range. They are pros, after all.
@@notfeedynotlazy her eyes don't move. They had this all planned out, so they knew where the Falcon would be, them being professionals & all.
Amos’ “I am that guy” was so perfect. He saved his friend from the stain of murder and took it on himself. What’s one more?
We're all just caught up in the churn.
He’s a “sin eater.”
Amos is my favorite character from that series, both the show and the books.
Plus....I've got a bigger gun....
I doubt he knows or cares how many, he appears to be a Psycopath selecting to be restrained most of the time.
4:48 when i first saw this scene i literally went "lemme guess, Anakin?"
i laughed so loud when i was proven right.
Who else had a lightsaber on that ship?
If you looked up the definition of foreshadowing, it’d send you right to this clip 😂
but anakin made the right move. the guy was threatening lives with a bomb so he was armed
After the first clip I was like, “if they don’t have the clip from the clone wars with anakin, obi wan, and Satine, I’m gonna be real upset.” I gave you a like as soon as I saw it in there. Bonus points for javelin Rex.
anakin is that guy
@@skipperg4436 Anakin is 100% that guy lol
And double for Dogma killing Krell, not because it's the best use of the trope, it's just really satisfying to see Krell die.
“Whatever game you’re playing, it won’t work. You can’t defeat me.”
“Oh, I know. But he can.”
(Surtr bursts from Asgard palace)
EXACTLY WHY DID EVERYONE ELSE FORGET THIS I LOVE THIS SCENE ITS THE BEST
It actually doesn't count because of the reasoning.
All the scenes in this vid shows the person cannot shoot because they can't psycologically, they don't want to.
Thor can't kill Hela because he physically can't. He tried over and over to kill her but is only getting stronger. He unleashes Surtr because he absolutely can kill Hela.
Ha! I was thinking throughout this that 'I am that guy' from The Expanse is the ultimate example of this. Glad you fit it in.
I remember that trope from Demolition Man, when Wesley Snipes can't kill the villain, so one of his henchmen does it for him.
...I recall Snipes *being* the villain in that movie? Am I wrong?
@@willchurch8376 The movie had more than one villain. Snipes' character would just kill you, the real villain would crush your soul.
These clips show people who don't have the hardness of heart to kill. Demolition Man's Simon Phoenix (Wesley Snipes) was programmed to not kill that one man (he had no trouble killing scores of other people).
@@willchurch8376 primary villain, but controlled by the secondary villain who orchestrated the whole series of events
@@persiswynter6357 that’s not true as multiple characters shown kill others in their movies and shows…it’s that they won’t kill an unarmed or surrendered person that’s the issue.
case in point: Captain Rex, who kills an unarmed person who was a threat to them and taunting Obi-Wan Kenobi but couldn’t kill an unarmed and restrained Jedi who was no longer a threat…
the old guard one was extra funny because she didn't actually shoot him she just told him to play dead
Oh that’s smart
@@Adam_the_One 2/3 of the people on that plane were immortal but plane crashes still hurt
Wait then where did the bullet go?
@@Suboptimus either a blank or she missed can't remember
I LOVED Old Guard! A must watch if you haven't seen it!
Bruh the firefly one is too smooth
It was a great moment for the character development of Mal, too, because it showed how little patience he had for bullies and blackmailers. I know we only got a single season of it but that character and Fillion's portrayal of him really did add something new to the genre as a whole. Yeah, there's more than a little of Han Solo in there (especially in this scene) but there's also a kind of intense efficiency to him that Solo doesn't have.
5:49 mad respect to Dogma. He manages to do what Rex can't while his hands are ties, his arms are being held and he's having an internal crisis.
The fact that you included The Clone Wars makes me so happy.
Absolutely love how Mal does it. Doesn't hesitate or try to reason with him or give him a chance to talk. Just boom headshot.
The Prax/Amos/Doctor scene has to be the best use of "I can’t, but he can." trope I've ever seen. The quality of The Expanse remains unchallenged.
It was so much more than the typical version. Amos knows that Prax can't take that kind of pressure. He relieves him of that burden because Amos has killed hundreds of people, one more isn't a big deal to him but it would be devastating to Prax. Amos is emotionally more intelligent than he's usually given credit for.
@@Crlarl I agree 100% and that is what made Amos my favorite character.
I loved The Expanse - damn good show.
I don’t think that Prax couldn’t have. I think he was more than willing to do what he saw was absolutely necessary. Amos just stepped up to protect Prax from having to live the rest of his life as a killer. Knowing what that sacrifice really means.
the Firefly scene is an absolute classic
I would've loved if it ended with the divergent clip of "You're not gonna shoot me" and then she says, "Why does everyone think that?" And shoots him😂
There's a different video for that actually
Oh yes, that would be good!
@@footlong7980 Yeah, there's a "'You won't shoot me!' [gets shot]" video out there. It a scene from Daredevil that honestly shocked me. (-:
Of course you saved the Expanse for last. It's just so beautiful in every way.
We desperately need more of The Expanse. Or something inspired by it, if there are such things already
@@darkleome5409 "inspired by it", it depends what do tou mean with it there are other sci-fi franchises that embrace a more modern concept of sci-fi and not that weird and kinda fantasy sci-fi like star wars.
@@theillusiveman2139 Yeah, but how many of them are actually good? The only thing that's come close to The Expanse for me is Dune, and they're very different.
Eyy, a Farscape clip! Nice! And from its darkest, most traumatizing episode, no less.
Scorpy gets bonus points for not just doing the killing, but physically using John's own hand to do it, and doing it to kill a hybrid of John's greatest love and surrogate little sister.
What's black and white and utterly ruthless?
I always liked the way Mal did it in Firefly. Cool efficient and no bluster unlike every other one in this video.
There's another one in Firefly where Kaylee is terrified to shoot and then River shoots the bad guys WITH HER EYES CLOSED.
"no one in the verse can stop me"
@@Jimusmc "No Power in the verse can stop me" is the line.
@@cirrustate8674 That line was _definitely_ worth some chills.
I wish NCIS was on this list. Specifically the scene where Dinozzo is being interrogated and says "Remember when I told you my boss was a sniper?" then the bad guy gets sniped.
You missed the most explicit example of this. In the movie Sneakers (1992) Ben Kingsley has Robert Redford at gunpoint and says "I can't kill my friend", then he turns to his henchman and says, "Kill my friend."
Firefly was a brilliant show in the sense that it called out a lot of those 'good guy' tropes and kinda chucked them out the window. 'Good guy Mal' didn't really shoot the dude because River was being held hostage OR because Simon couldn't - he did it because he wasn't having a very goo day at that point and didn't reeeaaalllly want to stick around much longer.
My other favorite scene with him during the show's run was him fighting that big brute after being tortured and Zoey holds everyone else back and says "No, the captain's gotta do this himself." and you hear Mal off screen scream "No I Don't!" and then they're like "oh shit" and help him by shooting the brute he's fighting.
Some people think that firefly is only so well loved cuz there was only one season and if there was more it would've been ruined. and maybe. Joss Whedon has a tendenancy to do that - but I honestly feel like we were still robbed.
And I highly doubt any ensemble could really pull off a reboot of it as well.
you can't but I can (shoots her)
Unfortunately we have specifics on some of the shit that Whedon had planned for Firefly. For instance, the planned arc for Inara was that she would be revealed to have a fatal super STD (which was what the injection needle in the pilot was for, to stave it off) and she was going to let herself be gang raped by Reavers to spread it to them and kill them to save the crew. As she's dying Mal finally admits he loves her. It was the most bullshit misogynistic asinine stupidity and the show's cancellation saved us from that.
I think we probably could have had another good season, but based on the articles I've read and stories at various cons over the years, I'm glad it ended where it did, when I still love (more or less) all the episodes.
And I totally agree about a reboot, nothing shiny about that idea.
I clicked on this hoping this exact clip from The Expanse would be here. Thank you for not disappointing me.
Not me waiting for Thor and Hella's "You can't defeat me"
"I can't, but he can" *Asguard fkn explodes*
ME TOO so disappointed
Anakin's coldness is uncomfortable.
Hope nothing bad happens to make his go darker.
It did.
@@melvinfranco2142 GASP
"I know a Jedi won't kill an unarmed man."
The fact that he got Obi-Wan to seriously contemplate it for a second, and then implicitly ordering Rex to do it himself, speaks volumes to how loathsome Keeper Agruss was.
and then Rex faces the same situation he has to have another kill Krell…
@@bostonrailfan2427 That's a bit different because Krell was technically his commanding officer at the time, whereas the dude in the chair was just a dude in a chair.
@@awareqwx Especially since in Agruss's case one of his best non-clone friends (Obi-Wan) ordered him directly to kill him, rather than it being a decision solely based on Rex.
This is why every team needs at least one psycho that ruthlessly deals with villains as they deserve. The hero's hands stay clean, the bad guy is dealt with, and the psycho gets to satisfy their urge to kill.
It's a win-win-win.
I understand the idea behind it, morality and all that but doesn't it seem like a hero who can't handle the job is a shit protagonist? The ability to do what is objectively necessary seems more relevant than just doing what is subjectively right, and the ruthless sidekick is a cheap copout to tie up the loose ends.
My favorite will always be Captain America Winter Soldier. You're right. It's her style. Then they start talking about getting Steve a date lol
Continued the conversation, not started it.
So many people love the scene from Winter Soldier but why is everyone forgetting Thor: Ragnarok with "I know I can't. But he can!" with Surtur?
@@jslloyd3581 Or that one scene from Men in Black 2 where K was telling this alien broad to stop what she was doing before something bad happens to her and she was like “Oh? And what are you gonna do?” then K retorts with “Not me. Him.” He was referring to J then said agent blasted the she baddie.
Folks who have not watched The Expanse have no idea why that clip easily trumps the rest of them and is so much more powerful because of what leads up to it! The weight of that scene for that show is insane compared to it happening in the other shows.
YES, I WAS HOPING FOR THE CLONE WARS CLIPS AND I’M NOT DISAPPOINTED
Who will strike first and brand themself a cold blooded killer?
Anakin: allow me to introduce myself
Argue with me as one might, but Malcom Reynolds' no-nonsense entrance solution scene will forever be the best.
So classic, "Mal".
Moral of the story, never say "You'll never do it." because chances are, there will be someone who can, will, and have.
Gota love Mal's way of solving problems
The Expanse! @7:00! You’re not that guy… you’re not that guy. I am that guy. Dr. Strickland ain’t coming on the trip kids! Miss this show.
That was my favorite part of the firefly. Oh dear god that was a Larry us. The brother didn’t know what to do but the captain was like now what do with this guy bang he had no hesitation not gonna lie. I cracked up so much me and my family busted out laughing at that secne.😂 1:25
Nat kicking the Hydra flunkie off the building like Leonidas kicking the Persian messenger will never not be funny.
I love Serenity. Malcom was always a "shoot first" kinda fella.
He was basically a Civil War Vet Gunslinger.
Knowing family guy Peter saying “it’s just been revoked” doesn’t call back to anything that’s happened in the show before and is just a non-sensical quote for no reason
total recall...think it was in reference to sharon stone's 'honey you can't shoot me, were married.' as she grabs a gun and he puts one between her eyes. he says that same exact phrase.
Maybe this has been answered , but I believe it’s a reference to Lethal Weapon 2 , the South African baddy kept saying “Diplomatic immunity “. He’s trying to Kill Riggs when Murtaugh gets the drop on him. The bad guy says, “Diplomatic Immunity…” and Murtaugh shoots him, and says, “has just been revoked”.
I love Rogers and Romanov go on a different convo after kicking the guy off the roof, like they're having coffee or something.
My man just road a horse across the dessert and shows up to suddenly make a perfect headshot.
Mal is a badass.
2:14
Rex just impaled a dude with a cattle prod, that thing wasn't sharp
The absolute BEST one to end on, kudos.
That scene at 0:51 is exactly why I love Firefly. Gone too soon.
Malcolm Reynolds in Firefly was just soooo good. Damn, miss that show.
Undoubtedly, without a question, the most stone cold rendition of this was from the Expanse. Damn that scene gives me the chills.
I came for Firefly and The Expanse and am not disappointed. Of all of these those two far surpass the others.
I love Malcom's (Firefly) Hostage "Negotiation" Technique!!!
"I am that guy" is the epic one of these.
4:56 - Anakin has the best post kill reaction :)
2:18 it is at this moment you realise how strong a pissed off clone is cause he threw the spear THROUGH a person (and a rather large person at that) and a chair that was at least 6-8 inches thick.
*fondly remembers Thor Ragnarok*
Hela: you can't defeat me
Thor: I know, but he can *points to surtur*
Liking each post that remembers this because how is it not in the video
One "Yes I can" moment I can recall- Magnum P.I. with the bad guy, Ivan, had been causing serious trouble for Magnum for a long time, and even blew up the Ferrari with Magnum's best friend in it. Big showdown in the jungle, Ivan practically convinces Magnum that he is unable to shoot him.
Long pause, then Magnum quotes his friend's favorite thing, "Hey Ivan... Did you see the sunrise this morning?" Scene ends right at the moment the gun goes off! EPIC!!
Best scene in the whole series, IMO.
Honorary mention for Kung Fu Panda 3
Po: "I can't hit my master!"
Po's fathers: "But we can!"
1:28 Perfect embodiment of the phrase "I ain't got time for this shit."
My favorite moment in a d&d campaign is when one of the other members of the party said “I can’t kill you, but he can” and pointed at me.
The difference with the expanse was that Prax would have done it, this changing him forever. Amos stops him, saving him in the process, because "he is that guy..."
I was wondering if you were going to include Amos. Glad to see you ended with the greatest one of these clips ever. Amos really became the hero of that show at that point.
Got to love the entrances that Cpt Jack Harkness makes in Doctor Who and that Captain Malcolm 'Mal' Reynolds makes in Firefly. Only Captain that might be better at it would be Captain Jack Sparrow.
When Robocop can't kill a corporate officer so the CEO fires him springs to mind. Not strictly canon, but in Above The Law one guy from the firing squad says "You can't get all of us" so Seagall drops him and says "Maybe not, but I'll get an A for effort". I also think of the Lord of The Rings, where the woman kills the Shadow Rider that says that it can be killed by no "man".
Yeah, the Witch King boasting that 'no man can kill me' when he's fighting a hobbit and a woman is the pinnacle of hearing what you want to hear in a prophecy.
@@willchurch8376 Also in the book he's fighting Gandalf, who's a literal angel and no man.
@@rikk319 I'd say that one is less clear. And 'literal angel' is a bit of a stretch, even if Maiar fill a very similar role. I don't think anyone would say Gandalf isn't 'a man'. Although again, with prophecy...after it comes true, hindsight is 20/20, and any number of things, from the 'race of Man', to 'a male capable of siring offspring', to 'a blooded warrior who has stolen a horse', etc., can all start to enter play. Certainly if Gandalf had killed the Witch King, we'd all be pointing to the fact he's one of the Istari.
@@willchurch8376 Fun fact: Tolkien created this plot twist because in The Scottish Play, it's stated "no man born of woman" can kill M*cBeth, and Tolkien was expecting the plot twist of him being killed by a woman. That didn't happen, so he was like, "Fine, I'll do it myself!"
Oh man, I can't believe I forgot the "Dick, YOU'RE FIRED!" "Thank you." Robocop shoots Dick through the head several times. That was awesome!
4:30
YEAH? Well don’t threaten the one who holds your fate!
Ending with Amos was the best! I would have been disappointed if that guy left of this supercut.
The Fifth Element: Corbin Dallas (Bruce Willis): "Does anyone else want to negotiate?"
The Expanse was a great one to finish on, as it's a slight subversion of the trope. But surprised you didn't include Demolition Man!
The Expanse had worked an entire season toward developing a character who dearly "needed killin'," a gentle character who had the right to kill the man who "needed killin'," and a character who would save his "best friend in the whole world" from staining his soul. Every person in the audience anticipated "I am that guy," and every person in the audience cheered. Damn, that scene was well orchestrated.
Torchwood, Fanscape, AND Firefly? I'll smash whatever you ask me to!
Seriously? No Demolition Man? That was one of the best scenes. The look of terror on Dr. Cocteau's face was priceless.
Doesn't fit the theme. Here people can't bring themselves to pull the trigger and somebody else does it for them.
In Demoliton Man Cocteau had placed a mental block on Simon Pheonix to prevent Pheonix from harming him. Cocteau didn't think that Pheonix would simply order one of the other unfrosted, not similarly programmed criminals to do the deed.
1:25 lmao bro came in and solved that shit instantly 💀
Love that Amos from The Expanse is that guy. Happens to be my first name. And I approve.
I honestly love the natasha steve rogers team up. The whole "the one with the lip piercing? Yeah! Im not ready for that" lol
Romanoff is just so swift there was no time for any reaction. You can tell she'd been itching to kick him of the roof as soon as they got up there. lol
These were all very good, but the one that is the absolute best is at the end of the The Highlander series episode "Chivalry". Duncan MacCleod, who is Connor MacCleod's cousin from the movies, has a 350 year old flame named Kristin. Their relationship soured and he left her. For hundreds of years she would then travel the world, looking for him, and making his life miserable by killing those he loved when she found him. The problem is that Duncan was born during the age of chivalry, so couldn't kill her himself. Enter Methos, his 5,000 year old friend and one of the oldest immortals. Methos tells Duncan that he must take her down or be haunted by her for eternity. At the end of the episode, Duncan and Kristin fight, and he disarms her, but can't bring himself to rid the world of her once and for all. You then hear Methos say "Pick up your sword". Kristin asks "Who the hell are you?!" and Methos says, very coldly, "I am a man born long before the age of chivalry. Now pick up your sword." You can hear Methos kill Kristin as Duncan walks away.
..."The Expanse" is the best sci-fi series I've seen in a long time, and yes, Amos Burton is that guy...
Not only is it objectively a high quality show in terms of characters, writing, set design, etc, it also managed to not only use realistic space travel, but make it look COOL.
@@dmgroberts5471 For real, every time they did maneuvers(or really any space stuff) in that show I was just like "0.0 so... cool....O.O". The art is in the details.
@@ThaBeatConductor I particularly love the fight between the Roci and the Stealth Ship in season two.
Like you said, any time a ship maneuvers is awesome, the way they just acrobatically rotate around with the thrusters. Badass.
Malcolm Reynolds... The Greatest Shot In Television History. Taken at a gait even.
0:34 is that the guy who plays Malcolm Merlyn
Yes. John Barrowman plays both roles.
Amos...from the Expanse...is probably my favorite character in a great series.
I had a really good one of these while playing Star Wars: The Old Republic. I was playing a dark side alliance gunslinger, and my guildmates were mostly lightside. We were doing a dungeon where the final baddie was a real dbag. When the conversation option to let him go came up, all my guildies recused themself, knowing I would take the shot. For those that don't know, in that game during conversations, there was a dice roll to decide whose answer would affect the scene, and my guildies recusing made sure my answer would be the one that displayed.
edit: I don't watch Farscape, but, owing to our names being the same, I'm really glad Scorpius was the one to take the shot in that scene.
As soon as you put the first clone wars scene of Rex, I just knew the Anakin with Queen Satine one was gonna show up here. Such a brilliant move.
1:29 fine I’ll watch firefly
Amos always has the best lines
That Firefly. Moment. Mail doesn’t even care who that guy was, he had a gun on someone he knew so down he goes.
"She could've killed me."
"No, she couldn't. Never. And sooner or later, Glory will reemerge and make Buffy pay for that mercy. And the world with her. Buffy even knows that, and still she couldn't take human life. She's a hero, you see. She's not like us."
"Us?"
wow that was some diversity in source material enjoyable video thank you
I didn't expect chuck to be on here, and then seeing Farscape just threw me through a loop lmao
And then Ben Browder was on the other side of it in the Arrow clip. xD
I love the scene at 1:59 where at first he doesn't take the woman seriously but after seeing her face realizes hes fucked