So I got to thinking on this whole cam phaser issue on the 5.4L . So wouldn't just getting a new torque bolt fix the issue for another 100k? I know the lick out is a more permanent fix but it seems like the bolt getting out of torque because of the design flaw is biggest prob and may stay good after replacement for 100plus miles. I'd be fine with that for a $10 part.
IMPORTANT.... I did the entire chain kit job on a QR25DE Nissan spec v. After a week the chain noise (as I suspect) came back. I just modified the tensioner to where it cannot be pushed back into its housing and have it more spring load. My question is.., will locking the phaser (new) btw eliminate chain noise? And what do you know about top end performance with a locked gear?
Did a timing job, long story short installed a lock out kit. Everything went great, the only thing now is the passenger side has a hot idle knock, any idea? Still have to flash for lock out kit but the noise is baffling, not codes other than for the lock out being introduced. Thanks!
The insides of my phaser is different than all that I see online. I bought new phasers (allegedly oem) and they are tge same as the ones I have the lockouts don't fit. Are there alternately shaped lockouts? Thanks if this reaches you at this late date.
I just seen ur video an gotta say I absolutely had no idea wats so ever wat a cam phaser lockout kit was an I ofcourse wen it comes TY o cars only no HOW TO DRIVE, FILL WIT GAS ,CHECK THE OIL, AN CHANGE A TIRE which iv never had to do tho....😊 so im very curious if I pay a friend of min3 for her one owner 2012 camary she bought off the Toyota dealer, so my question really now is it worth me buying??🤔
So where would I buy the cam phaser lockout kit can you help me with that? Would you recommend using blue loctite prior to installation of the bolts on the phasers?
Cars&Life ...... so where would be the noise be coming from? The chain slack or the movement of the phaser gear. Will locking the phaser gear do anything for chain noise?
Victor Castillo You should shut them off in the tune. It depends on what mods you have on getting full lockouts vs. limiters. They are more or less a safety buffer in the event that Murphy says hello.
Victor Castillo You should shut them off in the tune. It depends on what mods you have on getting full lockouts vs. limiters. They are more or less a safety buffer in the event that Murphy says hello.
Hey great vid bro¡ I am from venezuela and I have a problem with a ford explorer 4.6 3 valve one day blocked the vct but now the truck jams or pistonea I do not know if it is because I made that blockade would help me a lot if you could answer me .... greetings from Venezuela thank you very much
arturo parra Did you get a new tune? You might consider getting another tune that will turn off your VCT system, if you installed lockouts. From Venezuela, wow!
Was that from Ford engine?? looked like it, Mustang??? I wonder, if my Infiniti FX 45, has similar VCT sprocket?? Can I clean them out with mineral spirit?? Do these ever go bad?? Thanks again, youtheman =)
Yes it was from a 3V 4.6L Mustang GT. Many automobile designs are very similar so I wouldn't be surprised if your Infiniti's VCT was based on a similar concept. If you have just old oil in your VCT sprocket I wouldn't worry about cleaning. The old oil will help to lubricate until new oil pushes out the old stuff. Because some designs use springs to push the timing back to its reference state, I suppose springs could wear out over time and cause issues. Thanks for your comment!
Why blocks the cam phaser in the retard position, which removes torque and increases fuel consumption for normal driving? Retarded the cam timing gives more power at high revs but takes away some at low revs so why lock it late? ??
It's really to increase robustness and is necessary for high lift cams. With 20 psi of boost and the engine dialed in for the upper end with a turbo application, turning off the VCT has relatively negligible consequences. If it was stock without forced induction then this would not be the thing to do.
lol you installed the lock out in the wrong vien........ see how the vien farther to the left's fin is touching and all the others arnt. thats where the lock out goes. bet this thing started rattling like bitch after a few thousand miles when that fine egged out the slide in notch.
Makenzie Steinhoff It doesn't matter which section the lockout is installed. The centrifugal force caused by sprocket rotation would inhibit vibration of the lockout even if the fitment was loose, which it isn't in any section.
Thanks for video and especially for tools required I needed to know the t30 before I started. Awesome 4-18-21.
With these locks, the same time is placed in the chains that if the pine nuts were not blocked
Nice video! thanks for the help. Tackling this job next week.
You might consider using blue Loctite on the fasteners. I forgot to mention this in the video.
So I got to thinking on this whole cam phaser issue on the 5.4L . So wouldn't just getting a new torque bolt fix the issue for another 100k? I know the lick out is a more permanent fix but it seems like the bolt getting out of torque because of the design flaw is biggest prob and may stay good after replacement for 100plus miles. I'd be fine with that for a $10 part.
IMPORTANT.... I did the entire chain kit job on a QR25DE Nissan spec v. After a week the chain noise (as I suspect) came back. I just modified the tensioner to where it cannot be pushed back into its housing and have it more spring load. My question is.., will locking the phaser (new) btw eliminate chain noise? And what do you know about top end performance with a locked gear?
Did a timing job, long story short installed a lock out kit. Everything went great, the only thing now is the passenger side has a hot idle knock, any idea? Still have to flash for lock out kit but the noise is baffling, not codes other than for the lock out being introduced. Thanks!
The insides of my phaser is different than all that I see online. I bought new phasers (allegedly oem) and they are tge same as the ones I have the lockouts don't fit. Are there alternately shaped lockouts? Thanks if this reaches you at this late date.
I just seen ur video an gotta say I absolutely had no idea wats so ever wat a cam phaser lockout kit was an I ofcourse wen it comes TY o cars only no HOW TO DRIVE, FILL WIT GAS ,CHECK THE OIL, AN CHANGE A TIRE which iv never had to do tho....😊 so im very curious if I pay a friend of min3 for her one owner 2012 camary she bought off the Toyota dealer, so my question really now is it worth me buying??🤔
So where would I buy the cam phaser lockout kit can you help me with that? Would you recommend using blue loctite prior to installation of the bolts on the phasers?
$5 for the aluminum parts, $700 for the engine tuning stuff
1:15 is that T30 Torx 5 flute bit Or 6 🤔
So If I install that part it will eliminate the knock noise?. Thanks for the video
wouldnt a custom shaped , precision plug of JB Weld do the same thing
Where can I get the blue block to lock the pinion
This settup can remove the Knockin noise?
It could by eliminating your VCT system.
Cars&Life ...... so where would be the noise be coming from? The chain slack or the movement of the phaser gear. Will locking the phaser gear do anything for chain noise?
@@AutoBodyEverything you can have phaser knock
What is the purpose of cam phaser Lock out ?
So does the spring serve any purpose after this ?
I removed mine. So I hope not. LoL
do i have to program it
1) Can I lockout without reprograming? 2)I dont have how reprogram so which lockout Chunkier should i use, Full or middle?
Victor Castillo You should shut them off in the tune. It depends on what mods you have on getting full lockouts vs. limiters. They are more or less a safety buffer in the event that Murphy says hello.
Victor Castillo You should shut them off in the tune. It depends on what mods you have on getting full lockouts vs. limiters. They are more or less a safety buffer in the event that Murphy says hello.
Hey great vid bro¡ I am from venezuela and I have a problem with a ford explorer 4.6 3 valve one day blocked the vct but now the truck jams or pistonea I do not know if it is because I made that blockade would help me a lot if you could answer me .... greetings from Venezuela thank you very much
arturo parra Did you get a new tune? You might consider getting another tune that will turn off your VCT system, if you installed lockouts. From Venezuela, wow!
Was that from Ford engine?? looked like it, Mustang??? I wonder, if my Infiniti FX 45, has similar VCT sprocket?? Can I clean them out with mineral spirit?? Do these ever go bad?? Thanks again, youtheman =)
Yes it was from a 3V 4.6L Mustang GT. Many automobile designs are very similar so I wouldn't be surprised if your Infiniti's VCT was based on a similar concept. If you have just old oil in your VCT sprocket I wouldn't worry about cleaning. The old oil will help to lubricate until new oil pushes out the old stuff. Because some designs use springs to push the timing back to its reference state, I suppose springs could wear out over time and cause issues. Thanks for your comment!
hi, is it plug and play or did you have to reprogram?
Juan Carlos Haro Chavez For the full lockouts, you should shutoff the VCT system in the tune so that the actuators don't try to rotate the cams.
Juan Carlos Haro Chavez I had my tuner do this for me.
Cars&Life are yours full lockouts?
Yes, mine are full lockouts. Cams can't budge.
I probably could of went with just a limiter as my cams were milder than expected, but I didn't want to take a chance.
does this lock the timing in the full retard position or at 0?
I also have all the parts already been provided by her in the trunk just havnt really signed the papers an paid her yet ya..
Why blocks the cam phaser in the retard position, which removes torque and increases fuel consumption for normal driving? Retarded the cam timing gives more power at high revs but takes away some at low revs so why lock it late? ??
It's really to increase robustness and is necessary for high lift cams. With 20 psi of boost and the engine dialed in for the upper end with a turbo application, turning off the VCT has relatively negligible consequences. If it was stock without forced induction then this would not be the thing to do.
Bad idea to do this
Why ?
Why?
lol you installed the lock out in the wrong vien........ see how the vien farther to the left's fin is touching and all the others arnt. thats where the lock out goes. bet this thing started rattling like bitch after a few thousand miles when that fine egged out the slide in notch.
Makenzie Steinhoff It doesn't matter which section the lockout is installed. The centrifugal force caused by sprocket rotation would inhibit vibration of the lockout even if the fitment was loose, which it isn't in any section.
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