"i think millia needs a couple buffs, but i live in the present and there's still work to be done" is such a great sentence and mindset, i wish every player could think like that.
I like that this comment is at the top. People love to complain and compare what characters don't have and such, but they won't acknowledge what their characters DO have. I play May and, guess what, I don't have crazy good Oki situations or high low mix without meter. That said, I do have very high damage, pretty decent pokes and big buttons. Nago has bigger buttons and more damage than me, guess playing May is redundant because there is a character who does what I want to do but better right? Doesn't need to be said that May doesn't play anything like Nago, and while both have extremely high damage and very big normals, they are different characters that excel at different things. People comparing HC to Jack-O gets me the most with that. Like yes, they both have similar tool sets, but they go about it in very different ways. Even if one is harder or easier or whatever, doesn't mean you "should just play x" because they are different characters and literally every character in this game have hugely unique play styles, as Guilty Gear has always been.
A few of us exist , I always said the same about Ky before they buffed him . I’m the happiest I can be with Ky , and if they make him better later , that’s just sprinkles on a already perfect donut ; so to speak .
People act like they play david in a game thats all goliaths. Whats the answer to getting cornered by jack-o, losing. Whats the answer to chipp getting positive bonus, losing. How do you block millias always accessible 4 way mixup, you dont. I just dont get why super hardcore millia players dont just switch to chipp if winning is all that matters. Its the same apelike do i airdash now or just neutral jump neutral game we all love to see. Is this a triple jump? Thats why everyone likes to see kazunoko in finals. Yun holding up for 2 minutes. Players are blind to their characters strengths, prodigious melee player and r-word leffen places chipp at the bottom of d. When that character can put you immediately in the corner and damn near unblockable you into death, has ridiculous whiff punish potential and just rules neutral by standing there. Potemkin is below par, yet he has some fucked up buttons, megafist has an absurd hitbox, he will kill you in 2 unfortunate exhanges.
saw this set on LK's channel the other day, great to see both sides of the MU as well as the post set discussion. I love LK's mindset when it comes to games, such a genuine inspiration
Your music helps the stream vibe . I also love your vernacular. You speak like a gentleman, and I love that . It’s an inspiring mode of being . Cheers . Would love to play my Ky against your Nago some day .
This was good stuff. Massive respect for both LK (likely the best Millia in the US) and Hotashi (the best Nago, maybe in the world as of this moment). Honestly, this was artful and well played by both you guys. Things like this show how far I got to go and how much more I need to learn.
Millia, by nature of her design, is a character that takes a lot of time to fully mature. Which leads to the wave of people saying she's significantly worse than the rest of the cast because you cant play her semi-optimally in 30 minutes like other simpler characters.
I love millia play because it's fun, but there's no world where she doesn't have to win more engagements than almost all of the cast. You have go guess right with Nago twice and some chip damage, but to win with millia you have to win at least 5 or 6 mix ups. She does get out damaged by almost everyone, it's a huge disadvantage. I feel as though it doesn't really matter how much you mature with her, she still has to do 5x the work for the same payoff.
@@tonyl9636 i can see where you're coming from, but if millia really had to do 5x the work Lordknight would never be able to win against another top-tier player like hotashi, who's playing Nago (most likely the best character in the game). Millia's disc setplay is not comparable to something like sol's C.S pressure for example, there are counterplays to most characters pressure but with millia if she knocks you down you just have to hold that and the oki loops on itself. Im not saying she's top-tier, but she's not that much worse than the other strong characters, if at all.
@@tonyl9636 She doesn't have to "win more engagements." Her looping Oki isn't her "winning" she won when she got the first knockdown, now she's getting the implied damage off that. Nago has to win twice (in some cases), but he only has so many shots before he's forced to be less mobile than a Pot. Don't get me wrong, 2 blood zoning Nago ain't no joke either, but it isn't as strong as an Axl zoning or HC zoning. He's still pretty vulnerable. As someone who plays May, who doesn't have good defense, Millia can feast once she lands a knock down and there isn't a lot May can chase with when Millia plays keep away in neutral. If I get a big hit on her, I do at least 60+ percent, but it's her job to avoid getting hit with big buttons. On the other hand, she can do like 30+% with her looping oki so after one or two knockdowns it can feel like I'm guessing for the game. Don't look at what characters DON'T have when comparing power levels. Look at what they DO have. May has high damage, big buttons, and pretty oppressive poke with forward advancing hit boxes. Nago has very high health, even higher damage, and under certain conditions very long range normals. Millia has extremely high mobility, very good Oki, and hard to challenge air buttons. As a May player, I don't have good oki, best I can usually get is a safe jump mix up which has pretty low reward. I have big buttons, but Nago's can be bigger and he can do more damage than me. That said, I have stuff that Millia and Nago don't have, and all in all, all 3 of us play completely differently from each other. That's the beauty of the game. I can beat Nago players, I can beat Millia players, and there are those who can beat me. That's all that matters in the end.
@@GriFFonRec4 it doesn't make any sense to me to say she doesn't have to win more engagements, if she gets a knockdown and you guess right the advantage is lost, particularly since her blockstring pressure is meh and very unambiguous. I have good defense though so maybe I see it differently because of that, but the knockdown doesn't give you unlimited Oki unless you continually convert, the second the first mix up is blocked that pressure is gone, especially since her blockstrings got mad gaps and no plus frames. Looking at what a character doesn't have is what you're supposed to do, I'm literally just agreeing with LK when he says millia gets out damaged because I feel like people are calling it an excuse when it's actually just a fact. I play nago and we all like to stroke our own Egos, but at the end of the day it's simply easier to win when you have a lot more damage than your opponent. I block one string and get a decent starter once against millia and the round is pretty much just over unless I guess wrong 6 times in a row, and against average players it's not a guess every time as much as it's an easy read.
Very great set so milla does not bad in nago mu even though she gets out dmage of course but there always a way never give up I don't know how you milla players do it hats off to you .
That’s not even that bad, it’d still basically end her pressure on block, it just means that if you have 50 meter you wouldn’t get to brainlessly punish with raw super to beat every option she has lol, it certainly wouldn’t make her broken or anything
@@Invarus Nago is already too fast for a big body, has long reach, screen control, insane damage, two reversals, two amazing dashes, 2nd highest hp in the game, guts rating of fucking 4. Like, how many advantages should 1 character have exactly? Because he already has it all. His only weakness is dependant on player error. If he doesnt burst, he shouldnt ever lose.
@@crimsonpotemkin That sounds a tad hyperbolic, but I'm not talking about Nago's power here, just using him as an example of a character who isn't supposed to have something. All I meant was that Millia deals lower damage because that's how she's designed, just like Nago's designed to have low mobility outside of Fukyo (I could have said GL or Pot for the purpose of the point I'm making). All I wanted to say is that a comment like "Imagine if Millia dealt as much damage as Nago" sounds a bit silly, similar to saying "Imagine if [big body character] was as fast as Millia". In short, while it definitely seems like Millia needs buffs, making her deal S-tier damage is probably a very silly idea for one.
Only in that it would let her wallbreak with super more consistently, but she doesn't really want to wallbreak at all so that would just take a sub-optimal scenario she's trying to avoid anyway and make it salvageable.
@@Nofixdahdress It’s just sometimes I feel like it would help her kill the opponent after she does an air combo and they get stuck on the wall mid air. Being able to super seems more effective than kapel right?
"i think millia needs a couple buffs, but i live in the present and there's still work to be done"
is such a great sentence and mindset, i wish every player could think like that.
I like that this comment is at the top. People love to complain and compare what characters don't have and such, but they won't acknowledge what their characters DO have. I play May and, guess what, I don't have crazy good Oki situations or high low mix without meter. That said, I do have very high damage, pretty decent pokes and big buttons. Nago has bigger buttons and more damage than me, guess playing May is redundant because there is a character who does what I want to do but better right? Doesn't need to be said that May doesn't play anything like Nago, and while both have extremely high damage and very big normals, they are different characters that excel at different things.
People comparing HC to Jack-O gets me the most with that. Like yes, they both have similar tool sets, but they go about it in very different ways. Even if one is harder or easier or whatever, doesn't mean you "should just play x" because they are different characters and literally every character in this game have hugely unique play styles, as Guilty Gear has always been.
100% this. LK is a hella good role model to have man
A few of us exist , I always said the same about Ky before they buffed him . I’m the happiest I can be with Ky , and if they make him better later , that’s just sprinkles on a already perfect donut ; so to speak .
People act like they play david in a game thats all goliaths.
Whats the answer to getting cornered by jack-o, losing.
Whats the answer to chipp getting positive bonus, losing.
How do you block millias always accessible 4 way mixup, you dont.
I just dont get why super hardcore millia players dont just switch to chipp if winning is all that matters.
Its the same apelike do i airdash now or just neutral jump neutral game we all love to see. Is this a triple jump? Thats why everyone likes to see kazunoko in finals. Yun holding up for 2 minutes.
Players are blind to their characters strengths, prodigious melee player and r-word leffen places chipp at the bottom of d. When that character can put you immediately in the corner and damn near unblockable you into death, has ridiculous whiff punish potential and just rules neutral by standing there.
Potemkin is below par, yet he has some fucked up buttons, megafist has an absurd hitbox, he will kill you in 2 unfortunate exhanges.
Love LK's gameplay. These sets are always great Hotashi!
When you said “ And Honor “ to LK saying “ Peace “ , I shed a single tear of proud joy .
saw this set on LK's channel the other day, great to see both sides of the MU as well as the post set discussion. I love LK's mindset when it comes to games, such a genuine inspiration
Your music helps the stream vibe . I also love your vernacular. You speak like a gentleman, and I love that . It’s an inspiring mode of being . Cheers . Would love to play my Ky against your Nago some day .
I like the way Lord Knight holds himself and speaks as well . Cheers .
This was good stuff. Massive respect for both LK (likely the best Millia in the US) and Hotashi (the best Nago, maybe in the world as of this moment). Honestly, this was artful and well played by both you guys. Things like this show how far I got to go and how much more I need to learn.
Millia, by nature of her design, is a character that takes a lot of time to fully mature. Which leads to the wave of people saying she's significantly worse than the rest of the cast because you cant play her semi-optimally in 30 minutes like other simpler characters.
I love millia play because it's fun, but there's no world where she doesn't have to win more engagements than almost all of the cast. You have go guess right with Nago twice and some chip damage, but to win with millia you have to win at least 5 or 6 mix ups. She does get out damaged by almost everyone, it's a huge disadvantage. I feel as though it doesn't really matter how much you mature with her, she still has to do 5x the work for the same payoff.
@@tonyl9636 i can see where you're coming from, but if millia really had to do 5x the work Lordknight would never be able to win against another top-tier player like hotashi, who's playing Nago (most likely the best character in the game). Millia's disc setplay is not comparable to something like sol's C.S pressure for example, there are counterplays to most characters pressure but with millia if she knocks you down you just have to hold that and the oki loops on itself. Im not saying she's top-tier, but she's not that much worse than the other strong characters, if at all.
This is true. This is also what LK was saying for a while. He didn’t think that she needed buffs or anything until relatively recently.
@@tonyl9636 She doesn't have to "win more engagements." Her looping Oki isn't her "winning" she won when she got the first knockdown, now she's getting the implied damage off that. Nago has to win twice (in some cases), but he only has so many shots before he's forced to be less mobile than a Pot. Don't get me wrong, 2 blood zoning Nago ain't no joke either, but it isn't as strong as an Axl zoning or HC zoning. He's still pretty vulnerable.
As someone who plays May, who doesn't have good defense, Millia can feast once she lands a knock down and there isn't a lot May can chase with when Millia plays keep away in neutral. If I get a big hit on her, I do at least 60+ percent, but it's her job to avoid getting hit with big buttons. On the other hand, she can do like 30+% with her looping oki so after one or two knockdowns it can feel like I'm guessing for the game.
Don't look at what characters DON'T have when comparing power levels. Look at what they DO have. May has high damage, big buttons, and pretty oppressive poke with forward advancing hit boxes. Nago has very high health, even higher damage, and under certain conditions very long range normals. Millia has extremely high mobility, very good Oki, and hard to challenge air buttons. As a May player, I don't have good oki, best I can usually get is a safe jump mix up which has pretty low reward. I have big buttons, but Nago's can be bigger and he can do more damage than me. That said, I have stuff that Millia and Nago don't have, and all in all, all 3 of us play completely differently from each other. That's the beauty of the game. I can beat Nago players, I can beat Millia players, and there are those who can beat me. That's all that matters in the end.
@@GriFFonRec4 it doesn't make any sense to me to say she doesn't have to win more engagements, if she gets a knockdown and you guess right the advantage is lost, particularly since her blockstring pressure is meh and very unambiguous. I have good defense though so maybe I see it differently because of that, but the knockdown doesn't give you unlimited Oki unless you continually convert, the second the first mix up is blocked that pressure is gone, especially since her blockstrings got mad gaps and no plus frames. Looking at what a character doesn't have is what you're supposed to do, I'm literally just agreeing with LK when he says millia gets out damaged because I feel like people are calling it an excuse when it's actually just a fact. I play nago and we all like to stroke our own Egos, but at the end of the day it's simply easier to win when you have a lot more damage than your opponent. I block one string and get a decent starter once against millia and the round is pretty much just over unless I guess wrong 6 times in a row, and against average players it's not a guess every time as much as it's an easy read.
I've been waiting to see the LK vs Hotashi long set for a while now. Mad respect to both players, y'all have some of the best mindsets in the FGC.
Nice set . I enjoyed watching . I placed 65th in arc Revo and got 3rd place in a little local Strive tournament yesterday . Was mad fun .
two kings of content collide
Very great set so milla does not bad in nago mu even though she gets out dmage of course but there always a way never give up I don't know how you milla players do it hats off to you .
Millia having a -7 2D is one of the most cursed things I have ever heard on this channel.
That's pretty normal, only 4 characters have a 2d better than -7 on block
Order sol +3 sweep
I mean, when they block Millia's 2D she's getting the paperwork for the death sentence ready, one wrong guess on RPS and it's so over.
@@mikhelum is it tho?
That’s not even that bad, it’d still basically end her pressure on block, it just means that if you have 50 meter you wouldn’t get to brainlessly punish with raw super to beat every option she has lol, it certainly wouldn’t make her broken or anything
9:38 you got nujabes too? Your music always hits
Anyone know the song playing at 10:50 ? I haven't heard it in years i need to know the name!
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All the Luv Sic songs are very nice
@@Touhni Thank you.
Can you imagine if Millia didn't get outdamaged?
I'd love it, but she'd be nerfed into the dirt.
Then she'd be stronger. Can you imagine if Nago didn't get outsped? Then he'd be stronger too.
@@Invarus Nago is already too fast for a big body, has long reach, screen control, insane damage, two reversals, two amazing dashes, 2nd highest hp in the game, guts rating of fucking 4. Like, how many advantages should 1 character have exactly? Because he already has it all. His only weakness is dependant on player error. If he doesnt burst, he shouldnt ever lose.
@@crimsonpotemkin That sounds a tad hyperbolic, but I'm not talking about Nago's power here, just using him as an example of a character who isn't supposed to have something. All I meant was that Millia deals lower damage because that's how she's designed, just like Nago's designed to have low mobility outside of Fukyo (I could have said GL or Pot for the purpose of the point I'm making). All I wanted to say is that a comment like "Imagine if Millia dealt as much damage as Nago" sounds a bit silly, similar to saying "Imagine if [big body character] was as fast as Millia".
In short, while it definitely seems like Millia needs buffs, making her deal S-tier damage is probably a very silly idea for one.
Very good gameplay! And I learn a lot from u and LK.Really appreciate it.
You don’t get to play vs you don’t get to play
Music for the discussion section?
Cross Thought, Snow Sisters, and Night Walker. All covers of uni songs by akito bass.
Would Millia benefit from being able to use the winger super in the air at all?
No she wouldn't
Just for wall breaks, I guess
Only in that it would let her wallbreak with super more consistently, but she doesn't really want to wallbreak at all so that would just take a sub-optimal scenario she's trying to avoid anyway and make it salvageable.
@@Nofixdahdress It’s just sometimes I feel like it would help her kill the opponent after she does an air combo and they get stuck on the wall mid air. Being able to super seems more effective than kapel right?
@@CodeTetsu learning how to do her rejump may help
Dang the post-set discussion was so informative hwre
Two geniuses at work. Love to see it.
I feel the difference in power for different characters is not that bad the high tiers aren't just gonna stomp on the low tiers
Bruh Millia can't finish her fucking plate...
When?
@@Pandaman64 All the fucking time, we watched the same vid or?
She lacks dmg.
@@bobibobbobino bro with the crazy mixups she has, she doesn't need it at all
@@sebm2408 But look at Nago man, his mix ups are terrifying to Millia more than the other way around
I like your music ima cop that day by day
great set, I'd love to see more videos like this one
First song name?
What is the outro song?
Two of my favorite players
Excellent vid
3:55 Spooby plz lmao haha ;D that's godlike yea yaya hah ;D
Strive is done bro I suggest u switch to king of fighters 15.
So True
Scrub mentality: "this game has been out for 7 months, dead game bro"
@@ducklenin8161 A scrub who's in celestial floor lol.
@@DUCATIIVERSOL lol like that means anything
@@ducklenin8161 ok troll lol